1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: September twenty second aka fry Ya. How about that easy 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: winner last night with the Niners? Baby? Starting the weekend 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: off great? Just a snoozer will get too shortly. I 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: got some hot takes on the Giants. Nothing to really 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: say about the Niners. We have a great guest today. 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: Spent a long time in the NFL. He is getting 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: the red carpet treatment from the Minnesota Vikings this weekend, 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: where he spent nine seasons. He's now a teammate at 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Kyle Rudolph legendary Notre Dame tight end. 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: I can say legendary. I happen to play basketball with 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: one of his high school sorry, one of his college 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: roommates at Notre Dame Dame christ I. Actually he's on 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: a workout plan and I'm lifting with him three or 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: four days a week. It's tough, but it's fun. So 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: I got some good Kyle Rudolph stories from day and 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: he's like, you gotta get him on the pod. I 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: was like done, We'll wrap up with a lengthy best bet. 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: I didn't pick every game. There is a tough week, 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: but we got it off to a good start with 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers on Thursday Night Football. But no big, big, 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: big bet like Buffalo last week. But do feel confident 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: in several games this weekend. Let's start with the forty 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 3: nine Ers just trouncing the Giants thirty to twelve. A snoozer. 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: I mean, this game sucked. I love the NFL. It's 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: a tough watch these Island games. Man, they can be 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: tough if it gets out of hand early, which this 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: one did. I mean the Giants had a good drive 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: the first time, and then the next two drives I 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: think combined for like two yards, and then at halftime 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: it feels like a snoozer. Giants did score in the 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: third WHOOPI damn do, and the Niners just put a 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: beat down on after that, no sweat whatsoever. They hit 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: the thirty point mark with Rock Purty again. They cover 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: easily at home. Again. That's eight straight at home they've 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: won and covered. This team is best in the NFL. 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: Second best, I don't know. I think the bigger story 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: here though, besides me starting Deebo, Samuel and fantasy and 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: Rock Purty and looking good in fantasy, even the kicker 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: I started for the Niners. I think the bigger here story, 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: the bigger story here is the New York Giants. They 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: look like the dumpster fire I predicted they would be 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season. We're talking about a 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: team now three games in, who got their butts kicked 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: up and down the field at home in the opener 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: by Dallas for all four quarters. Okay, Then in week 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: two they go to Arizona and they get their doors 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: blown off for the first half. They do come back 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: and rally in the second half and pull out of 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: miraculous win over arguably the least talented team in the league. 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: That's probably gonna be drafting first overall. Okay, Then you 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: come out short week, I know, tough, short week, oh 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: so difficult, and you got to play the Niners on 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: the road and no Saquon and the offensive lines beat up. 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: You think maybe they would have been able to cook 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: up some interesting stuff maybe short week, but it's tough, 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: tall order, and they essentially I'll give them the third quarter, 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: but essentially they lose three out of the four quarters. 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: If you're keeping score at home twelve quarters the season 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: for the Giants, lost four against Dallas, lost two against Arizona, 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: lost three to Night nine of twelve quarters. They've gotten 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: their butts kicked. This team does not look competitive at all. 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: The New York Giants ladies and gentlemen against the Niners, 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: and it was a short week. Their thirty nine million 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: dollar a year quarterback Daniel Jones was a non factor 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: from the jump. They had are you ready for this? 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty yards of total offense, that's it, 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: three point three yards per play, zero explosive plays. They 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: didn't have a carry that went ten yards. It was 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: almost like they didn't want Daniel Jones to run because 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: he would have got killed by one of those linebackers. 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: And they had no explosive plays through the air. They 75 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: were inept woefully on offense. I get it. Last year 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: was a charm season and Brian Dable is able to 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: get the most out of Daniel Jones. But I'm here 78 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: to tell you that ship has sailed. They're not making 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: the playoffs. I don't care. When Saquon comes back, they 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: get an extra day off, so you get the extra rest. 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: You're playing on Thursday, and then they play next Monday 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: against Seattle. Seahawks have to fly across the country and 83 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: maybe maybe Saquon Barkley's back. Okay, he's saying, I guess 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: he gave an interview to somebody where he's saying, maybe 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: it's a high ankle spray and it's not as bad 86 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: as anticipated. I don't know how that could be, but whatever, 87 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: And they need Saquon back. Without him, they're very limited. 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: Everybody was all excited about Darren Waller, the addition of 89 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: Darren Waller, and you go, oh, yeah, there's such a 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: difference maker. What like three years ago, like he couldn't 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: catch a cold against the Niners. Tell me the biggest 92 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: plays had the season? Where's he a factor? They draft 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: the young kid out of Tennessee. They loved it, young 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: kid Jalen high At, Oh he's so good. What do 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: you have a handful of snaps tonight? Like I don't 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: know what the Giants are doing? And then almost save 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: the best for last, Wink Martindalere, you ready for this? 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: So wink Martindale's DNA is We got blitz. We got 99 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: blitz the hell out of the opponent. And that's fine. 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: They blitzed brock Perdy on eighty four percent of his dropbacks. 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: What did brock Perdy do? Oh, well, yeah, he's a 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: seventh round pick. Maybe it was a lucky charmed run 103 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 3: last year. Let's blitz it and put pressure he doesn't 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: have iuk his deep threat. Who wins one on one? 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: You want to know how that worked out? Brock Perdy 106 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: against the blitz twenty of thirty one for two hundred 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: and forty seven yards and both touchdowns didn't quite work 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: out how you thought. Wink Martindale, listen, I like this 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: Giants team last year. I was on them. A couple 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: guests came on the podcast before the season. They were like, 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: look out for this Giants team. Man Dables a huge upgrade. 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 4: I totally agreed. 113 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: Wink Wartindale was an upgrade. Totally agreed. But then again, 114 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: two years ago this they had nothing going on. Then 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: they pay Daniel Jones and that was when it all 116 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: fell apart from me. You watch this guy. You're telling 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: me he's a thirty nine million dollar a year quarterback, 118 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. Show me the drive he's had this season 119 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: against good competition. That impressed you. And I'm not talking 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: about Arizona I'm listen, Rob, I'm sure people are gonna say, 121 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm coming down way too hard. It's a Thursday night 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 3: Island game. Uh huh, Rob, some of us saw this coming. 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: This team is not good. The schedule is brutal. Hold on, 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: I got it right here. The schedule coming up for 125 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: the one and two Giants, they host Seattle. I don't 126 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: think that's a lock. That'll be a tough game. I 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: would say coin toss. What are they favored? Maybe by 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: two at home? Maybe it's a pick them. I don't 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: know after that, and they better win that Seattle game 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: if they want to have any hope. The Giants travel 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: to Miami and Buffalo back to back. Then it's Washington, 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: then it's the Jets, Raiders, Cowboys. This season could be 133 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: over by conservatively Thanksgiving. For the New York Giants. I 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: don't see any hope. And Rob, I'm sure people be 135 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: like Jay coming down hard. I think this is fair, 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: fair criticism. The Giants stink and they are in real, 137 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: real big trouble. 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like the understatement of the century. And you 139 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: know what's funny is, before we started recording, I was 140 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: telling you, like, man, I hope you have something good 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: to say, because, like, when a game goes exactly the 142 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: way you expected to, it's hard for me to generate 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: hot takes. Like I pride myself on being able to 144 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: come up with a take on anything. That one was 145 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: a little bit difficult. And then you told me what 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: you were going to say, and I was like, you 147 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: know what, maybe I can pick it back off of that. 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: The New York Giants across the first half of three 149 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: games so far, have been outscored sixty three to six. 150 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: All Right, Daniel Jones, who I said after Week one, like, Hey, 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: I don't know for sure if he's a bad quarterback 152 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: or not. We didn't see he didnt get enough chance. 153 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: He was getting under pressure, like eighty nine percent of 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: the snaps. He got sacks seven times against Dallas. Let's 155 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: give him, you know, some time. And then he follows 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: it up in Arizona by having what some are calling 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: the greatest second half in NFL regular season history. Right. 158 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: He threw for over two point fifty, he rushed for 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: over fifty through two touchdowns, rush for a touchdown, had 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: no turnovers. No other quarterback in NFL history had ever 161 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: done that in the second half of a game. Only 162 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: one quarterback and then that in any other half, that 163 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: was Mike Vick during like the absolute peak of his 164 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles days. Right, so he had an all time 165 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: great second half against Arizona. And then if you take 166 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: that out, all right, take that one magical, charmed half 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: out across the other. What is that now? Ten quarters, 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: he's thrown for about three hundred yards, zero touchdowns, four interceptions. Okay, 169 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: everything I said after Week one, where I don't know 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: if he's a bad quarterback or not, I would get 171 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: to give him a chance. It's official. He's a bad quarterback. 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: He's not any good. The only reason why people even 173 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: had any kind of believe in to begin with coming 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: out of last season is because he lit up two 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 4: of the worst defenses in the NFL. The only two 176 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: teams through four and three hundred yards against were two 177 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: of the worst defenses. And because he you know, didn't 178 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: turn the ball over. I don't know when not turn 179 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: the ball over was a sign that you're a good quarterback, 180 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 4: Like you don't have to do anything else, just don't 181 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: make the huge, giant mistake that should be considered the 182 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: bare minimum of an NFL quarterback. And somehow he parlayed 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: that into forty million dollars a season. You touched on it, 184 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: maybe at least to Saquon Barkley, you know, playing elsewhere 185 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: next season because they feel like they had to pay 186 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: one guy and they didn't want to pay the real 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: hub of their offense. Look, the New York Giants are terrible. 188 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: There's a reason I didn't pick him to make the playoffs. 189 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is vastly overpaid, and that one contract, that 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: one decision off from that kind of money is going 191 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: to set their franchise back at least two or three years. 192 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: It's interesting you mentioned like the bare minimum don't turn 193 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: the ball over. If Zach Wilson went this weekend and 194 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: didn't turn the ball over, that would be a career boost. 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: But for Daniel Jones, who got thirty nine mil a 196 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 3: year or whatever the number is, it's like, are you 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: kidding me? I mean, Rob, I keep coming back to this. 198 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, well, maybe you can make an 199 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: excuse like they played the Cowboys, who are the best 200 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: team in the NFCS first or second. I feel like 201 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: right now they're playing better than the Eagles. The Cowboys 202 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: are where they look better through two games roster is 203 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: right there on par with the Eagles. And then they 204 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: played the Niners, who is right there with Dallas and 205 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: the Eagles in the NFC. And then they played the 206 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: complete opposite, which was maybe the worst team in the Cardinals. 207 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: But the problem is they got they were like non 208 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: competitive at all against the elites. And then you face 209 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: a Cellar Dweller and you basically split halves with him 210 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: and need one of the greatest halves you've had in 211 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: franchise history just to get the dub. I mean, Rob, 212 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: there's no way this is an uppercross team in the NFC. Like, 213 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: I don't see anything defensively, I mean offensively. I don't 214 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: know where you find the positives. And listen, I went 215 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: after this guy on social media. I didn't go after him, 216 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: but he covers the Giants for newspaper. And I happen 217 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: to work with him way back, like twenty years ago 218 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: at this newspaper, and you know, we're friendly or whatever, 219 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: and he covers the Giants down he wrote like some 220 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: encouraging signs from his thirty to twelve loss, And I'm like, 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: hold up, where are the encouraging signs? If you're a 222 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: Giants fan like, what, like no stars got injured? Like, 223 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what the encouraging signs are, 224 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: Like it was like a what was it seventeen twelve 225 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: in the third quarter for like six minutes? Is that encouraging? Like, 226 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: I just I saw nothing from them offensively. I didn't 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: see anything defensively. They didn't slow the Niners. And if 228 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: we could quickly talk about the Niners, rob so you 229 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: remove Brandon Ayuk from the offense and you're like, oh, 230 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: maybe it could be tough sledding for them. You know, 231 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: he's really good. He was amazing. Ans the Steelers like 232 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: this could be tough. He's their downfield threat. And it's like, oh, 233 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: some random dude catches his first pass ever and it's 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: a touchdown. And then Deebo Samuel goes off from my 235 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: fantasy team. By the way, how much fun is he 236 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: to watch? Is there a better watch at receiver in 237 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: terms of like breaking tackles and tough it's the Deebo 238 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: Samuel Robb. I don't think there can't. 239 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: Be no even just pure entertainment value. I think him 240 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: and Tyreek Hill are the two most entertaining wide receivers 241 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 4: so much. 242 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: That's a take. There's your take. I mean, like justin 243 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: Jefferson and Chase are nasty. 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: But like, but just just a watch. 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Deebo is amazing. George Kittle gett in the mix 246 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: with with some flexing. I don't know, man, It's just 247 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: at some point we got to and I'll ask Kyle 248 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: Rudolph about it. But like, I don't know, what do 249 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: you end up doing with Purdy? Like is he Jimmy Garoppolo? 250 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: Like if you win the Super Bowl with Purdy or 251 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: you go to the Super Bowl? I mean, eventually, are 252 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: they gonna have to pay this guy? Like, I still 253 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: can't tell. The sample size is tiny, right, he still 254 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: has only played what like thirteen games, maybe not even 255 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 3: like twelve games. I don't know, Rob, what do you 256 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: do with Purty? Is he awesome? Or is he in 257 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: a stacked team? It's so tough. 258 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I mean. Both things can be true. Yes, 259 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: that they're stacked. They have talent all over the place. 260 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: Their offensive line is very underrated. But at the same time, 261 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: you have to be able to be the trigger man 262 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: in a system like that, like putting them in position. Deebo, Samuel, 263 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: you mentioned George Kittle. To do the things after the 264 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: catch that make them special is a skill, right, because 265 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: there's some guys, even if they don't turn the ball over, 266 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: they're hitting guys right in the middle of the numbers 267 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: down and then that's the end of the game. He's 268 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: putting it out in front so that McCaffrey can add 269 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: another four or five yards, so Debo can add twenty 270 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: five yards because that's how specially is and that is 271 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 4: something that you you know, he's just highly accurate. Across 272 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: three games, he's averaging children forty five yards per game. 273 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: He's undefeated again, as you mentioned, five total touchdowns. Like 274 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: at some point, you know, you just got to concede 275 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: that he is. You know, I think Michael Partis said, right, 276 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: he's a top fifteen NFL quarterback. And as long as 277 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: he can avoid I know that's supposed to be the bairmenham, 278 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: but avoid the big mistakes and he doesn't try to, 279 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: you know, do too much. He's awesome for that system. 280 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: He's great and eventually you're gonna have to pay him, 281 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: but that's another problem for another day. 282 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, if he still hasn't, I mean, 283 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: this game he started against the Eagles. He got hurt 284 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: on one like the second or third drive in the 285 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: NFC title game. Like, we haven't seen brock Purty lose 286 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: a game. 287 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: Right, No, he's never lost the game. He's finished. 288 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: He's kind of crazy, and you could argue like, oh, 289 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: well he's never had to come back. Look at his 290 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: roster and Rob we do this a little bit in 291 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: the NBA, but I don't think we do it enough 292 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: in the NFL. And me and Coward had like a 293 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: moment Thursday where we talked about it. But it was like, 294 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, Justin Fields is getting destroyed obviously in Chicago 295 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: for general sucking and you know, missing guys and holding 296 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: the ball too long. And I'm like, well, it's like 297 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: we're killing Fields, who's playing with unproven offensive coordinator whose 298 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: skill position players were upgraded from like bottom of the 299 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: basement to like average. I don't know they're running back. 300 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: Now average other than DJ Morning, They're blow. 301 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Out, offensive lines beat up, and it's like Fields hasn't 302 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: look great. Meanwhile, you go to Justin Herbert, who I like, 303 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: and I know you'll you'll appreciate this, But I said 304 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: to caward' I'm like, listen, I like Herbert as much 305 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: as the next guy. He's had the ball the first 306 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: two weeks late in the game with a chance to 307 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: get up to get the go ahead points. Okay, against 308 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: Miami they had a chance to kick a field goal 309 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: and win, and they couldn't. 310 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: Get a first down. 311 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: Okay. Then against Tennessee had two chances. Rob the final drive, 312 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: they're down three, they drive I think into the red 313 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: zone and they had like forty five seconds left and 314 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: I think two timeouts. They couldn't score a touchdown. They 315 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: set at for a field goal, they get the ball 316 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: first and they go three and out. So like, I 317 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: like Herbert, and I've got buddies who are Chargers fans 318 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: who listen to this podcast they invite into games. I 319 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: just Herbert gets a pass for all this, which is 320 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: I get it. He's awesome, and I understand that. But 321 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: we're like crushing fields and we're saying he's not an 322 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. He's five and twenty seven, And like, I'm 323 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: just gonna ask Rob if you were put justin fields 324 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: on the forty nine Ers. And again, we do this 325 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: in the NBA, like we don't. I don't feel like 326 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: we do it as much in the NFL, we just write, 327 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: guys off, I'm just what does Fields look like on 328 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: the Niners? And we could say, well, no, Jay, he's 329 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: not reading defense with the Bears. Well he's under pressure, 330 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: his guys aren't geting separation. And who the hell is 331 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: his play caller? You give him Mike McDaniel, l Kyle Shanahan, 332 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: and you tell me, Justin Fields can absolutely make some 333 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: things happen. I just I don't know. It's a complicated discussion. 334 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: But the game sucked last night, so go ahead, and 335 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: you know, go off. King. I like to say. 336 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: It is a complicated question because I think that the 337 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: answer is somewhere in the middle. I think that their 338 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: ceiling is much higher with a talent like Justin Field. 339 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: It's why they made the trade for Trey Lance. They 340 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: were looking for more explosive, you know, plays both in 341 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: the run game and in the past game. And Brock Party, 342 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: for all of his skills, he doesn't have the biggest arm. 343 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: They mentioned that on the broadcast with Kirk Kirk Street. However, 344 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: he throws a great anticipation, he's very accurate, and those 345 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: are two things that so far Justin Fields hasn't shown 346 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: he's been able to do. So. Do I think that 347 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 4: they'd have a higher ceiling than they do with Rockert, Well, 348 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean they're already a contender, so I don't know 349 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: how much higher you can get. But yes, I also 350 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: think that their floor would be lower. I also don't 351 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: think that they would be undefeated in all, you know, 352 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: twelve thirteen games whatever that Justin Fields would have started. 353 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: So it's an interesting question for sure. 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll never get We'll never know the answer. But 355 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: the thing is like, if Fields keep screwing up, like 356 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Bears are gonna draft another quarterback, he's gonna be the backup, 357 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: probably gonna move on from it. It's gonna be like 358 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: the Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota. Those guys were starters. I 359 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: think Mariota got to the playoffs with the Titans. They 360 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: and they won against Kansas City, Alex Smith's last start 361 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: before they moved to Mahomes. But it was like, well, 362 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: we gave him a shot for five years, didn't quite 363 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: work out, and then you just quietly move on. And 364 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, barring some miracle, rob I feel like 365 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: that's gonna happen to Fields, and it's happening a lot 366 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: to these young quarterba It happened with Baker Cleveland, Sam Darnold, 367 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: like a lot of these guys drafted up top, they 368 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 3: get their chance, often with crappy franchises and crappy coaches 369 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: and just not really you know, it's like you're not 370 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: getting a shot. You get called up to the big leagues, 371 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: you've got your chance, and you don't deliver. And it said, well, 372 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't a great circumstance. 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Eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. 404 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows 405 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. 406 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want. 407 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 408 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 409 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into 410 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: straight fire. A big time former football player. He's being 411 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: celebrated this week by the Minnesota Vikings. He just retired. 412 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: He's retiring a Viking. He now has a job here 413 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio Sunday afternoons, after all the football 414 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 3: is complete. Kyle Rudolph, Kyle, what is up? 415 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: Not much, Jason, I appreciate having me on. 416 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for taking the time. You know, obviously a 417 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: sterling career. You've got this big weekend in Minnesota planned. 418 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure you wish it was under better circumstances, giving 419 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: the zho and two start. You've got the stuff swirling 420 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: around Kirk Cousins. There's some Justin Jefferson chatter out there. 421 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess talk to me about the 422 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: vibe in Minnesota this weekend. 423 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because you look at the Vikings schedule 424 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 5: and you know they've got the zero to two Chargers 425 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: come in here to town this weekend at US Bank 426 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 5: Stadium and a Muslim game for them at this point 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 5: this season, and then they follow it up with a 428 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 5: road game against the Carolina Panthers and their number one 429 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 5: overall pick is hurt and not playing this week. So 430 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: from Minnesota standpoint, you're looking at a great opportunity to 431 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 5: get back to two and two. I've said this a 432 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: couple times on my show on Sunday Nights that realistically, 433 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 5: in September, you're just trying to figure yourself out as 434 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: a team. If you get to two and two and 435 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: you've set yourself up to, you know, establish an identity 436 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 5: and how you're gonna win football games for the rest 437 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: of the year. You know, obviously everyone would love to 438 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: get off to a four and oh start in September, 439 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: but you can't win the Super Bowl in September, but 440 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 5: you can certainly lose it. And dropping this game this 441 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: week to the Chargers here in Minnesota would set you 442 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 5: up for not having an opportunity to play in the 443 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. So it was funny. Obviously I mentioned when 444 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: I got asked if I was the Jets, what would 445 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 5: I do, I'd say to all the Vikings, you know, 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 5: why why wouldn't you. It's like, if if you're trying 447 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: to bring a quarterback in to win a Super Bowl, 448 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: you feel like you have a roster right now that 449 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 5: can win a Super Bowl minus the quarterback position, and 450 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 5: you want to bring somebody in to to compete for 451 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: a super Bowl. You know, I Kirk is that guy. 452 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 5: He can do that for you. He can be implemented with. 453 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot of really good teams 454 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 5: here playoff runs with really good defenses and a good 455 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: run game and their skill players. He'd be a perfect 456 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 5: fit there. But ultimately that's why I said, yeah, if 457 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 5: I'm the Vikings, I think you got to take the 458 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 5: phone call. Like you know, you talk about Justin Jefferson 459 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: and his name, you know, rumors starting to swirl with him. 460 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: You got to pay that guy a lot of money, 461 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 5: And it's certainly a lot easier to pay that guy 462 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: a lot of money without a quarterback contract that's north 463 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: of thirty five forty million. So I just feel like 464 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 5: when you look at both situations. It's one that would 465 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 5: be advantageous for both of them to explore. But ultimately 466 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: I don't think it happens because I do think the 467 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 5: Vikings get back to two and two in a really 468 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 5: down division. I see them competing for a playoff spot 469 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: here come late December. 470 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, they won't be trading Kirk if they think they 471 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: can compete. That's not great for my Jets. A longtime 472 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: Jets fan, I was born in New York. But one 473 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: more thing on Minnesota, so you spent most of your 474 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: career there. Obviously, it was the most memorable game that 475 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: won playoff game case Keenum with the touchdown pass. 476 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously the Minneapolis miracle here at gust Bank Stadium 477 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: was one that I mean, I'll never forget how loud 478 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: the stadium was when Digsy was running down the sideline, 479 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 5: and you know, we kind of just felt like we 480 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: were a team of destiny at that point. The super 481 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 5: Bowl was here at us Bank Stadium. At that point, 482 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 5: no team had ever played in their own Super Bowl. 483 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 5: Now since, two have played and won a super Bowl 484 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 5: in their own stadium, but we were going to be 485 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 5: the first, and it just felt like at that moment 486 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 5: in this season. It was meant to be, and then 487 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: unfortunately we went to Philly the next week and got 488 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: our teeth kicked in. We didn't play very well. 489 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but you mentioned Diggs obviously, as right before 490 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: we were recording, the crappy news came out Trayvon Diggs, 491 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: the great cornerback on Dallas Torres ACL at practice a 492 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: horrible news out for the season. I don't know when 493 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: I hear tearing it at practice. I mean, Kyle, are 494 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: people going full tilted practice on a Thursday with a 495 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: game that weekend? Like hasn't I don't want to ask 496 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: how does that happen? But like, do you that stuff 497 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: seems very odd in random. 498 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: No, it's unfortunate, and you know, I'd be curious how 499 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: it happened. Obviously, Yes, especially the skill players, like we're 500 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: running around. Everybody's playing full speed on practice. Even Thursday. 501 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: Friday in the NFL is referred to as fast Friday. 502 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 5: You know, on Friday you want to fly around and 503 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 5: play as fast as a bus we can before you 504 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: shut things down on Saturday and then go play on Sunday. 505 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 5: And you know, unfortunately there's so many things, non contact 506 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: ways it could have just been a free step or 507 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 5: you know, plant the wrong way. So obviously none of 508 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: us know how it happened, but it's extremely unfortunate to 509 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 5: hear the news coming out of Cowboys practice today. 510 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: We talked about your Minnesota career. Listen, I'm sure it 511 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: was forgettable and it was not great, But I got 512 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: to ask you about the Giants. You played with Daniel 513 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: Jones one season. Joe Judge was the coach. Listen, I 514 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: don't think much of Daniel Jones. I know you played 515 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: with him. A lot of people don't want to be 516 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: mean to guys they played with and stuff. How did 517 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: the Giants get this guy such a bad, big contract? 518 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle, let's be I. 519 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 5: Mean, he's super talented. I mean, as a Jets fan, 520 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 5: you can hate on him all you want, and I'll 521 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: stick up for him because he's I mean, look what 522 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: he did last week and you could say, all it's 523 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals, they're terrible. That was still an NFL 524 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 5: defense that he came out and basically single handedly brought 525 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 5: them back and got them a win that they had 526 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: to have going to San Francisco. So I'm curious to see, 527 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: you know, at some point he's got to settle in 528 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: and play the football that I know he can play, 529 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: that we all saw him play last year. You look 530 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: at the circumstances the first three years of his career. 531 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: I was a part of that dysfunction. I saw the 532 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 5: way that you know, they were treating him and the 533 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 5: people that they were putting around him. You know, just 534 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: it's it's no way for a guy to have success. 535 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: And you know, people don't want to hear it because 536 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: you know, I say it all the time, like he's 537 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 5: just this kid from Duke. But he's as athletic and 538 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: a talented as almost any quarterback in this league. And 539 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: there's no reason why he can't be a josh Allen 540 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 5: type quarterback. He has all the tools. 541 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean Josh Allen caliber. I mean, Josh Allen was 542 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: like the MVP's favorite hitting into the last season. 543 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and look at the numbers that Daniel 544 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: put up last year and playing in that same system. 545 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 5: You know, how was josh On an MVP the first 546 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: year with Brian Dabele. No, he was just kind of 547 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: a guy running around making plays and then you know 548 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: what was he three to four years after being in 549 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 5: that system? So there's a lot of really good football 550 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: players in our league, and oftentimes what separates the good 551 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: players from the elite players the great players, not that 552 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 5: they're that much more talented. It's circumstances. It's situation, and 553 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: I think he's finally in a good situation there with 554 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: having Brian Dabel there and having an offensive mine head coach. 555 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: I know you went into you know, radio, and who 556 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: knows what else you got down the pike. I heard 557 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: you got a lot of business stuff going on that's 558 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: pretty awesome, and philanthropic stuff. 559 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 4: That's great. 560 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: But you know, if you were in a front office. 561 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: You know, we mentioned Daniel Jones getting a lot of money, 562 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, you alluded to his contract and paying Justin Jefferson. 563 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm curious where do you stand on the whole paying 564 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: the quarterback I e. Mahomes Herbert Burrow versus the sanfran model, 565 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: which is currently, Hey, we got Brock perty seventh round pick, 566 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: paying him nothing. We can have a stacked roster as 567 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: good as any in the league. That's our best path 568 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. Where do you stand on the 569 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: whole building a team and paying a quarterback. 570 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: And everything, Well, it's hard. I talked about it this 571 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: past Sunday on the radio show because we were talking 572 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 5: about brock perty being he has the seventy aeth Ranks 573 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 5: salary amongst quarterbacks in the NFL seventy So when you 574 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: have a quarterback that's making that amount of money, it 575 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 5: allows you to have the highest paid running back in football, 576 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: one of the highest paid tight ends, one of the 577 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 5: highest paid left tackles, one of the highest paid linebackers, 578 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: the highest paid defensive player ever. So you can put 579 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 5: a lot of talent around a guy like that. But 580 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: there's also, you know, teams that have quarterbacks. You know, 581 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 5: you look at the Kansas City Chiefs, for instance, they're 582 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: paying Patrick Mahomes a lot of money. So what did 583 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 5: they have to do? They had to trade Tyreek Hill. 584 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 5: You can't pay Patrick Mahomes a lot of money and 585 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: pay Tyreek Kill thirty million. So I feel like there 586 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: are quarterbacks that are worth it if you're paying them 587 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 5: top dollar in the NFL fifty plus million dollars a year. 588 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: And there are quarterbacks at times where you know, maybe 589 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: they're just mediocre, maybe a little better. They're good, they're 590 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: not great, and they're gonna get paid that money because 591 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 5: that's what the market dictates, and their team is scared 592 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: to death of what's life like without them. So I 593 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: think there's gonna be this. You have to kind of 594 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: find a middle ground. If you're a team that feels 595 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 5: like we have a good one, you know, we have 596 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: a guy that we believe we can win with. But 597 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: there's a difference between a good one that you can 598 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: win with and a great one too. It doesn't matter 599 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: if Tyreek Hill leaves and you've got to replace that 600 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: wide receiver because your quarterback is going to make him better. 601 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: So there's there's definitely two ways to do it. You've 602 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: seen the Chiefs had success. You've seen the forty nine 603 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: ers have success. We had a super talented roster when 604 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: I was here in Minnesota because we had quarterbacks on 605 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 5: lower salary deals. It allowed us to keep allowed us 606 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: to keep a lot of talent around the quarterback and 607 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: ultimately make the quarterback better. We went to the NFC 608 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: Championship with case Keenum as our quarterback, a backup quarterback, 609 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 5: and it was because of all the talent we had 610 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 5: around the quarterback position. 611 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's interesting because you know we talk 612 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: about this radio TV podcast like Left and Right, like 613 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: yet the way to do it, don't pay your quarterback anything. 614 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: But then you look around and you know, uh, San 615 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: Francisco and Miami looked like the two best teams in 616 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: the league. Ite's very early. And oh, by the way, 617 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: the Dolphins didn't pick up two his fifth year option, 618 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: but they have a Shanahan guy McDaniel running the show. 619 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious, what's your best guess as to what the 620 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: Dolphins do with Tua. We know the history of the concussions, 621 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: and yeah, maybe he keeps us up. I don't know. 622 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna win the MVP, but they're gonna 623 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: be good. There should be a playoff team. Do you 624 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: think that Miami can say, you know what, I love 625 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 3: our track team. We're gonna build out our defense. Why 626 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: don't we go ahead and not pay two and just 627 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: plug in a quarterback the way San Frans plugged in 628 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: brock Purty and we could get this thing roll and 629 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: keep it going. 630 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it's a very viable option. I think there's 631 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: so much more that goes into it, though, besides just 632 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: that decision. You know, like, who is that person? What 633 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: do they mean to the locker? Room. You know, how 634 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: would the guys around the locker room feel? What does 635 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: that do for your organization? And I ultimately believe just 636 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 5: because they didn't pick up his fifth year option. You know, 637 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: we talked about Daniel Jones before. The Giants didn't pick 638 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 5: up Daniel Jones fifth year option and it ultimately cost 639 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: them about ten million this year. So he was supposed 640 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 5: to make about maybe around thirty. He's making forty because 641 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: they didn't want to pick up his fifth year option. 642 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 5: Ultimately they had to keep him from you know, franchise 643 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: Tag would have paid him a little over thirty this year. 644 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 5: They ended up giving him the long term contract. And 645 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: I give the Giants credit because you know, everybody says, 646 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 5: oh a huge contract. It's you know, forty million years. 647 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 5: You know one sixty over four forty million is going 648 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: to be a middle of the road quarterback contract here 649 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 5: probably by next year. You know, these guys are up 650 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 5: in the mid fifties already. So I think when you 651 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: can get a guy like that that you believe in 652 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: and then you want to keep around, you know, ultimately 653 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 5: got to find something that works for you and the team. 654 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 5: Not every guy can reset the market. And I don't believe. 655 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: You know, I mentioned Justin Herbert, the second high paced 656 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: quarterback of all time. He's never want to never want 657 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 5: a playoff game. Daniel Jones want a playoff game, you know, like, 658 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 5: I mean, we can bend it however we want. Ye, 659 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 5: it is what it is. If you feel like you've 660 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 5: got your guy, You've got your guy. 661 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to go to the Bears and 662 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert real quick. You've been in some good spots 663 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: and some not some great spots. I'm curious what's gone 664 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: down this week with Justin Fields. They've looked awful. It 665 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: was optimism all off season. I love the Bears. I 666 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: thought they could be a wild card team. I mean 667 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: they look like a disaster. I'm just curious. Take us 668 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: inside the locker room to like one of your bad 669 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: experiences like that where it's like, holy hell, everybody's talking 670 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: about it the bad. Is there any way to salvage this? 671 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 5: You know, there's still a lot of football left. I 672 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 5: talked about September kind of just being like, hey, we're 673 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 5: trying to figure this all out. We're trying to figure 674 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 5: out how we win football games, who we are as 675 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 5: a team. I had the Bears as one of my 676 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: most disappointing teams through the first two weeks, and again 677 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: it was a lot of the offseason hype, what they've done, 678 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 5: who they've brought in, justin fields improving as a quarterback. 679 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: Off last year we saw the way he could run 680 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: the football, but you know, becoming a better passer of 681 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: the football and ultimately, look, I've been on teams that 682 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: had expectations of making the playoffs and having a good 683 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: year and starting one and five. In twenty twenty, we 684 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 5: started one and five, we were zero and four. We 685 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 5: won our first game, then we dropped one. We had 686 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 5: our bye week, we went on the road coming out 687 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 5: of the buy and played at Green Bay, who was 688 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: the favorite in our division. I think they were five 689 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 5: and one and we were one and five, and we 690 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: beat them in Lambeau and for us, it was kind 691 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 5: of like the jump start to our season and ultimately 692 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 5: we were called our way all the way back to 693 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 5: playing meeting meaningful football games in December with a chance 694 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: to make the playoffs. So no that there's still a 695 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 5: lot of football left to play. I don't think it's 696 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 5: just over in Chicago, but it is really disappointing to 697 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 5: see kind of the performance from their offense through two weeks. 698 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: You were with Brady obviously in Tampa briefly. I've read 699 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: all the awesome stuff that you've said, and I heard 700 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 3: what you said on your radio show about playing with Brady. 701 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: I am curious. Are you surprised by the two and 702 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: oh start in Baker Mayfield because it felt like Tampa 703 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: was headed toward Bowles is a goner, probably a fire 704 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: sale coming around Halloween, and yet they start the season 705 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: two and zero and they're taking money this week against Philly. 706 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: Line's coming down. 707 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I think you look at Tampa and 708 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 5: the way they've won their first two games. You know, 709 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: I have a lot of respect and I give a 710 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 5: lot of credit to teams that, you know, again, they 711 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: know exactly who they are, they know what they have 712 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 5: to do to win games. You don't want Baker dropping 713 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: back and throwing the ball fifty times a game, but 714 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: yet you play really really good defense, you turn the 715 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: football over. Baker's taking care of the ball. I think 716 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 5: that's first and foremost, probably the most important thing that 717 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 5: he's done through two games, is he's not turning the 718 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 5: football over. And then you know, Mike Evans is probably 719 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 5: one of the most underrated wide receivers in football and 720 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: has been for the last decade. But he goes out 721 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 5: there weekend and week out making huge plays, catching big 722 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 5: touchdowns for that offense. So no, I think it's they 723 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 5: know what their recipe for success is down there in Tampa, 724 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 5: and they have a real challenge coming to Tampa this 725 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: week against the Eagles because that front is the best 726 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 5: they'll see so far. 727 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got just two more questions. 728 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: One. 729 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 3: Obviously we'll wrap up with Notre Dame in a second 730 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: with their big game. But first I got to ask, So, 731 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: from like a schematic standpoint, let's look at the Washington 732 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 3: Buffalo game for a sec. You know, Buffalo plays a 733 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 3: lot of a certain kind of defense. Sam Howell struggled 734 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: against a certain kind of defense. How do you, like, 735 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: how do you handicap a game like that from an 736 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: outsider perspective, but having been on the inside, Like if 737 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: you're Buffalo and you say, hey, we're playing a lot 738 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: of two tight end sets and Washington can't defend that. 739 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: We're just gonna get shove it down their throat, or 740 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: is it, Hey, we've got to change some things up 741 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: to adjust because they know what's coming. Like, just take 742 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: us inside what you think might be going down in 743 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 3: Buffalo Washington this weekend. 744 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's going to be important, and Buffalo 745 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 5: is probably in their meetings talking about how they have 746 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 5: to find ways to run the football, getting James Cook involved. 747 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 5: It's a defense in Washington that's extremely stout, one of 748 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: the tougher fronts to run the football. Again, I remember 749 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 5: playing against a lot of those guys over the years, 750 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 5: and they're just they're tough. But I do think again, 751 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: Josh adds this this element that makes them very difficult 752 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 5: to defend in a two tight end set because you 753 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 5: know they can run those two tight ends out there, 754 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 5: and it could basically be the same as if they're 755 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 5: in eleven personnel with three wide receivers in a tight 756 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 5: end and they can line up in spread formations and 757 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 5: throw the ball all over the place, or they can 758 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 5: line up and actually play two tight end football and 759 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 5: run the ball and use Josh in the run game 760 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 5: where if the quarterbacks running the ball, you have an 761 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: extra blocker, you're not a man short if the quarterback 762 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 5: hands the ball off to the running back. So you know, 763 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 5: I definitely see Josh getting involved in the run game 764 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: quite a bit in order to run the football against 765 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: that front. 766 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, Kyle, we could wrap up with this. 767 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: You went to Notre Dame, a good buddy of mine. 768 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 3: We've won a couple of men's league basketball championships out here, 769 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 3: Dan Chris, you know you guys were teammates of Notre Dame. 770 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: I've been asking him for intel on the Irish Ohio 771 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: State game this weekend. I don't know. A, you know, 772 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 3: give me what you got, and B what do you 773 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: think of Sam Hartman so far? 774 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I like the Irish as home underdogs. 775 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 5: I think it's a great opportunity for Notre Dame to 776 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: win a big game. We haven't won a big game 777 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 5: in a really long time, especially against one of these 778 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 5: power you know, Ohio State's Clemson's Alabamas of the world. 779 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 5: So I think it's a great opportunity for them to 780 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 5: win a game at home. And I think the reason 781 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 5: why they want to win that game is because of 782 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 5: Sam Hartman. He's a difference maker at the quarterback position 783 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 5: and one that we haven't had in a long time. 784 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 5: We've really relied heavily on just being able to run 785 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 5: the football, win the line of scrimmage, and now they 786 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 5: have a guy back there who can completely take over 787 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 5: the game. 788 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I kind of want to ride with you 789 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: on Notre Dame. I just they've, like you said, they've 790 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 3: lost so many big games. I'm a little more skittish 791 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: to get involved. But Kyle Rudolph, Yeah, thanks for taking 792 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 3: the time to join us, and you know, good luck. 793 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: Congratulations again on the vikings and keep up the good 794 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 3: work on your radio show. 795 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 5: Thanks Chase, I appreciate it. 796 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: Something magical happens when the third quarter ends and the 797 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: fourth quarter begins. The energy changes. The fourth quarter is 798 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 3: where games are won, where champions are made, and in business, 799 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: it's where sales teams become legends. 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Hey, that 818 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: was this guy played with him, Rudolph, You know, nice guy. 819 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to best bets. I'll just confess 820 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 3: right now that I am definitely against the perceived sharps 821 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: on a couple games this weekend. And let's jump right 822 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: into Steelers and Raiders. I guess it's a bad read 823 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 3: by me. I thought, wait, why are the Raiders favored? 824 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: And I grabbed the Steelers, I said, perfect bounce back Spot. 825 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: We talked about it a couple times this week. If 826 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: you're just tuning in Thursday for the picks, sorry you 827 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: missed like the intense breakdown where I gave my thoughts 828 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: on Steelers Raiders. But it's like, I just I don't 829 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 3: see why the Raiders are almost favored by It's inch 830 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: and toward three as we record this late Thursday night, 831 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 3: putting in the picks, Raiders minus two and a half, 832 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 3: minus one twenty three. Really they should be three point 833 00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: favorites at home against anyone. Jimmy Garoppolo, I'm stunned at that, 834 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 3: and ay, I may I've been wrong before, obviously, who 835 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: hasn't been? I got Pittsburgh plus one and a half, 836 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 3: obviously a terrible line, But if this continues, I don't 837 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 3: think I could take them in the contest. But at 838 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: plus three, I could maybe take him in the contest. 839 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 3: I just like to steal again, You're never The one 840 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: mantra that I've had in this contest, been in eight 841 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: years now is you're never as good or as bad 842 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 3: as you were last week. The Steelers were putrid. They 843 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: have I believe, the fewest red zone trips in the 844 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 3: NFL the season, fewer than the Bears, which is embarrassing, 845 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: and they have not looked particularly sharp on offense. But 846 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: consider the opponents. I just look at what the Raiders 847 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 3: have defensively. I don't see anything. If Pickett can't get 848 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: right here, that's a major problem. If Matt Canada cannot 849 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: lead them to some success twenty four to twenty seven 850 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: points whatever, then there's a good chance that he just 851 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: gets hey, man, take the bus, we'll see we'll see 852 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: you soon, and you're done. I just I don't see 853 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: how the Steelers don't win this game. But anyway, I 854 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: bet them and the markets against me. I told you guys, 855 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: I took Bills six and a half. Now there is 856 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: some kind of storm brewing that you're gonna want to 857 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: check out monitor throughout the weekend. Of course, now the 858 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: line's down to six. People think that Eric Bienemy with 859 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: the Chiefs had they had their way with the Buffalo 860 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: Bills defense for several years there with Mahomes. Obviously, Bienemy 861 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: does not have Mahomes. Now he has Sam Howell, who 862 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. Will the real Sam Howell please stand up? 863 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: Was he the guy who was garbage for a game 864 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: against the Cards and mediocre for a half, or was 865 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: he the guy who's lights out for a half against 866 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 3: Denver in a comeback? I don't know. We'll find out again. 867 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: I don't think Hyglie of the Bills, except when they 868 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 3: play bad teams. I don't consider Washington a very good team. 869 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 3: So I'm on the Bills at six and a half, 870 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: I think I'll be on them. In the contest Packers Saints. 871 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 3: This is one where it's like the Green Bay Packers. 872 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: Like Bachtiari, what's up? Is he gonna miss the game? 873 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: Jenkins gonna miss the game? Two starting linemen down. Saints 874 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: defense is good lines coming down. I like Saints on 875 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 3: the road. I do not have anything on a side here, 876 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 3: but I'm leaning towards Saints. In the contest Patriots Jets, 877 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: obviously I'm passing on. I'm sorry, I cannot. It hurts. 878 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: This is the problem with being like a fan of 879 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 3: a team. I don't want to take the Patriots and 880 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 3: win money. And then I take them in the contest 881 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 3: and it's a win, and then the Jets are victorious, 882 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 3: and it's like, well, I bet against my team and 883 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 3: I was on the wrong side, like pigging against them. 884 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 3: What am I doing? And I'm happy that the Jets 885 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: would win, So like, I can't do it. I've just 886 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 3: got to sidestep this game. My gut. My gut tells 887 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: me the Jets actually show up here, but I'm not 888 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 3: super confident. I remember I thought the would show up 889 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 3: against the Cowboys last week Jags Texans. I'm on the 890 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: Jags again. Boy Jason getting some not great numbers. I 891 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 3: got eight and a half this week. It went up. 892 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 3: Looks like I went up to nine nine and a half, 893 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: then came back down when the Texans injury report kind 894 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: of cleared up. This was thirty one to three last year, 895 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: late in the season, and I look at the offensive 896 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 3: line issues. I look at Jacksonville bouncing back. I look 897 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: at Calvin Ridley against the secondary that just lost Derek Stingley, 898 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 3: their best corner and he ain't been great. I see 899 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: Lawrence totally bouncing back. This almost feels like a by 900 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 3: low on the Jags again after in the preseason and 901 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 3: leading up, where like, could the Jags be the number 902 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 3: one seed? Could they win eleven twelve games? And then 903 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: they lose to the Chief scuffle and you're like, ooh, 904 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson, Trevor Lawrence stink and listen. They didn't look 905 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 3: great for a while against the Colts, but that was 906 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: a little more their defense. I just don't see Stroud 907 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 3: abusing Jacksonville here on the road. So I'm on the Jags. 908 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: I think I'll be on them in the contest. It's 909 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 3: another big, big favorite. They're risky member San Francisco killed 910 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 3: me last week with that late field goal by the Rams. 911 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: Cleveland is one I have bet personally. Now here's the 912 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 3: problem in the contest at three and a half. I 913 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 3: got the bet at minus three, but a lot of 914 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 3: juice minus one twenty six. It's a little part of 915 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 3: a price to pay. I don't like three and a half. 916 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 3: Titans love to keep games close. Ken the brown get 917 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: separation without any offense. I think they can win this 918 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 3: game with their defense alone. The dog Pound's going to 919 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 3: be popping off. I like the Browns here. I'm on them. 920 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: I just don't know if I can do the contest 921 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: at three and a half Chargers Vikings, I have bet 922 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 3: the Chargers that pick them. I will be on the 923 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 3: Chargers game day. I have gone down with the Chargers 924 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: two weeks in a row. I don't mind doing it again. 925 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 3: And you know, folks, sometimes you just you have a 926 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 3: belief and you can't get off of it. And one 927 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: of my beliefs right now is that the Chargers are 928 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: still a good team, and so sadly I will be 929 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: betting them against the Vikings. If they lose hereof that 930 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 3: would be extremely, extremely bleak for their season. Gosh, Chargers, 931 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 3: just win again the Vikings, folks. The Vikings are not 932 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: a good football team. 933 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: We know this, right. 934 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 3: Nobody's trying to tell me that the Vikings are any 935 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: good defensively. Offensively, the total has gone way up. We 936 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: talked about the total earlier this week. I think let's 937 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 3: see what we got fifty was it fifty fifty two? 938 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: It's now at the fifty four and a half. So again, 939 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 3: if you listen to the pod Monday and Tuesday, probably 940 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 3: getting some good deals. But that's only for the hardcore listeners. 941 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 3: So Minnesota's gonna blitz as they have been under floor 942 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 3: as the most blitz heavy team in the league. And 943 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna remind some people last year Dallas went 944 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: into Minnesota. You guys remember this, Well, Jay, why are 945 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 3: you bringing up Dallas? Why would you bring up Dallas? 946 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 947 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 3: Well, Kellen Moore was the OC of Dallas. 948 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 4: Last year. 949 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: They went into Minnesota and won forty to three. Now 950 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: I know there's a new defensive coordinator. But at the 951 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 3: same time, it's not like the entire defense is new 952 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 3: flores Is gonna want to blitz. Herbert's gonna be fine 953 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 3: against the blitz. He should shred the zone defense. I'm sorry, 954 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 3: I gotta go with the Chargers here. Eventually their defense 955 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 3: is gonna make a play, right Like they've got to 956 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: actually make a play. I saw this stat that Minnesota 957 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: just isn't doesn't run the football at all. It's essentially 958 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 3: ninety one and a half percent of their yards are 959 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: through the air. They don't have a ten yard carry 960 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 3: this season. I mean, the Chargers issue mostly has been 961 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 3: the big plays, but after that it's the run game. 962 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 3: So if the Vikis aren't gonna run, we're just gonna 963 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: see points on points. I like the Chargers to pull 964 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: this one out. Unlike last week where I really loaded 965 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: up on Buffalo, I don't see a game where it's like, hey, 966 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 3: you got to smash the hell out of it. Total 967 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 3: over forty four and a half Eagles, Bucks, over forty 968 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 3: six and a half, Broncos, Dolphins, and under forty two 969 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: and a half Raiders, Steelers, all those I bet I 970 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 3: did get the Cowboys at minus thirteen earlier in the week. 971 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 3: I felt really dumb. It came down and now it's 972 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: back at thirteen. I'm not supposed to do double digit favors. 973 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: It's just like, you know, for the new gamblers listening, 974 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: it's like you just no not gonna win long term 975 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 3: betting double digit favores. It's a fool's errant. Yes, Gennon 976 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 3: has familiarity with the Dallas offense, and maybe Dallas gets 977 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: caught looking ahead to dates with the Patriots and the 978 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 3: forty nine ers those are coming up, so maybe that's 979 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 3: they're not as locked in. I don't know, guys. I 980 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: just have a hard time believing that this offense with 981 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs is gonna be able to do anything on 982 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 3: Quinn's group, even without Treyvon things. It's not like there's 983 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 3: a stretch the field guy on the on the Arizona Cardinals. 984 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 3: You gotta worry about another game that I You know, 985 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 3: how about this? How about the six and a half 986 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 3: point teaser I have, so the Buffalo Bills down to pick. 987 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 3: They would have to lose to Washington ten for this 988 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 3: to get blown up. Chargers plus seven and a half. 989 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 3: You gotta go on the teasers. You want to go 990 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 3: through the three and seven, so you can't go through 991 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 3: the seven with Buffalo, so you bring them down to 992 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: pick them. You bring the Chargers up to seven and 993 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 3: a half, so they lose by a touchdown, You're still good. 994 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 3: Bring the Steelers up to nine. Come on, the Raiders 995 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: are they can really get separation in a way they 996 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: can't right, right? And then Dallas, which is the dumbest 997 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 3: part of this teaser, down to six and a half. 998 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 3: Should they scuffle and then only win by a touchdown? 999 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean that's the case. I'll be very upset, but 1000 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: that feels like a teaser that should be a slam dunk. 1001 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 3: If you were asking me, Jay, what's your craziest pick? 1002 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 3: This will probably be in the contest, but it has moved. 1003 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts are eight eight and a half nine 1004 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 3: in Baltimore, and I didn't really look at this game 1005 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: until today and I start looking at Wow, everybody loves 1006 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 3: the Ravens. I see, I hear, I see this Lamar 1007 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 3: Jackson MVP. And then I look closer and I see, oh, 1008 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 3: Ravens are coming off a divisional matchup where they were 1009 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: down six six starters and they beat a Bengals team 1010 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 3: that just isn't right yet. And then they got more 1011 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 3: guys injured, two pass rushers including Oway, the kid, the 1012 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 3: young kid out of Penn State. 1013 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 4: He's out. 1014 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 3: They got Odell Beckham's injured, Justice Hill, who is filling 1015 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 3: in for Dobbins, He's injured. They're really banged up. Who 1016 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 3: do they have next week? Divisional road game at Cleveland? 1017 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 3: You know that's always a war. And after that divisional 1018 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: road game at Pittsburgh, So is there a chance Baltimore 1019 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 3: getting high on its own supply after the win over 1020 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals' is like, oh, the Colts are coming in 1021 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 3: ol and Anthony Richardson is not even here. It's gonna 1022 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 3: be Gardner Minshew for real, We're good, we got this 1023 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: and they kind of lollygag and sleepwalk, and next thing 1024 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: you know, Gardner Minshew and Shane Steichen, who have been 1025 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 3: together for three years dating back to Philly, are like, hey, 1026 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: we got some options here and the Colts are able 1027 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: to hang around. Remember the Colts were whooping up on 1028 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 3: the Texans last week. It was thirty one to ten. 1029 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 3: There was a beatdown in the fourth quarter. Before you know, CJ. 1030 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 3: Strouds starts chucking and duck and everybody's like, oh, CJ. 1031 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 3: Shroud's good. I don't know. I think these cluster injuries 1032 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 3: for the Ravens on defense, offensive line, a wide receiver like, 1033 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 3: I think this stuff adds up, and I think that 1034 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 3: the Colts can keep it close. I'm sure Lamar's gonna win. 1035 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 3: I'll be taking the Ravens in Survivor, but I just 1036 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 3: I don't see a world with a with a get 1037 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 3: absolutely blasted here in a game that the Ravens just 1038 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 3: there's nothing to get excited about. So that would be 1039 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 3: my if you're looking for a dangerous dog. I think 1040 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 3: the Colts can be a little bit feisty in a 1041 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 3: game that I don't think many people have circled. It's 1042 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 3: not like a sexy game in a Gardner Minshew, come on, 1043 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 3: get out of here. And finally, I just felt like 1044 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 3: I need to talk about this one. Miami Denver. So 1045 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 3: it looks like it's sticking on six and a half 1046 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 3: and it won't hit seven because the big money gamblers 1047 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 3: will just grab the numbers. Guys will just grab Denver 1048 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: getting a touchdown. By the way, Miami's not going to 1049 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 3: dominate offensively all season. They looked incredible. In the opener, 1050 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: Belichick said, oh, let me do some adjustments, and he 1051 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 3: kept five and six defensive backs on the field for 1052 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 3: like almost every play and tour was a little confounded. 1053 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: But what ended up happening, Well, let's give it to Mosturt, 1054 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 3: and he went nuts and had the long touchdown run. 1055 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 3: So Miami said, Okay, we see what you're doing. You're 1056 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 3: gonna take away the big play that the Chargers didn't 1057 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 3: and we're gonna give what the defense takes us, which 1058 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 3: is or we're gonna take what the defense gives us, 1059 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 3: which is you know, Mostert, heavy dose of maybe that 1060 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: young fast kid, I don't remember his name. I was 1061 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 3: gonna get him in fantasy, but someone else got him, 1062 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 3: and I just I got this, like, huh would Denver 1063 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 3: do that same thing? And then you think, huh, Well, 1064 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 3: if Waddle, who's in concussion protocol, if he doesn't go, 1065 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 3: you maybe have certain just follow Tyreek Hill around the 1066 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 3: field and say, you know what, go ahead, beat us 1067 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 3: with Braxon Barrios, beat us with durham smythe go for 1068 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 3: it and Denver gets feisty. Now the opposite is, you 1069 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: know this Denver offense can be a rough watch, and 1070 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 3: going down into that heat in Miami. I looked at 1071 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 3: the temperature. It looks like there could be some rain 1072 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 3: in the forecast, rain Saturday and Sunday, perhaps at I 1073 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 3: think it's called hard Rock Stadium. And will that slow 1074 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 3: down Miami a little bit and give Denver an advantage. 1075 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see it's a game. I foolishly 1076 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 3: bet early Miami minus six and a half, and then 1077 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 3: there's just an avalanche of evidence that says, just wait 1078 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 3: and see what happens. You might get that seven for Denver. 1079 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 3: So this is a tough week. I don't see anything 1080 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 3: that's an absolute lay up like Buffalo last week screamed 1081 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: you gotta get on this. I didn't talk about Chiefs 1082 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 3: Bears because it the spreads twelve, and we know Patrick 1083 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 3: Mahomes is way better as a small favorite than he 1084 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 3: is a massive one. There's just hey, let's just get 1085 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 3: out of here with no injuries. Get the w one 1086 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 3: of those deals. Carolina Seattle I haven't done much with 1087 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 3: because of the Bryce Young situation. He's gonna be out, 1088 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 3: It's gonna be Andy Dalton. I kind of sort of 1089 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: want to take Carolina here they went to Seattle last 1090 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 3: year and pushed him around. They will win the trenches 1091 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 3: against the Seahawks. Remember this is a Seahawks team. As 1092 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 3: a dog, love him, always feisty as a favorite. See 1093 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: what they did against Rams as a favorite, and as 1094 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: a dog against Detroit showed up. I don't know, It's 1095 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,760 Speaker 3: just one of those weird like I want to take Carolina, 1096 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 3: but then the problem in the contest is you take Carolina, 1097 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 3: they get their doors blown off, and you're like, why 1098 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 3: the am I backing these garbage quarterbacks Andy friggin Dalton, 1099 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 3: really Jason, And that's the kind And that's the toughest 1100 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 3: thing about taking these dogs with fleas Like I kind 1101 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 3: of want to take Atlanta. And then I was like, 1102 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, Desmond Ritter hasn't been on the 1103 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 3: road yet. His first road game is gonna be in Detroit. 1104 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 3: And now the Lions have injury issues too, So it's like, 1105 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't some of these games. Man, I don't love 1106 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 3: this week. Confidence isn't wavering because of anything of last week. 1107 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 3: But if you had to ask me, Jay, you can 1108 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 3: bet one game this week. I think I would probably 1109 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 3: take the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson at three at 1110 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 3: three and a half, that would not be my pick. 1111 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 3: My pick would probably be the Chargers, which good luck. Anyways, 1112 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 3: great week. Be back on Monday, hopefully with the Jets win. 1113 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 3: Patriots owen three, and I'll lead with Belichick camp. Wait 1114 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 3: talk to you then,