WEBVTT - Mark Trumbo, the 2016 MLB homer leader, joins the show

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<v Speaker 1>Aos fans welcome in another edition of Birdland Territory with Steve, Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and a special guest today, former Oriole, Mark Trumbo.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't like saying former Oriole. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you have guys like Brad Brock and Mark around,

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<v Speaker 1>they're Orioles. If they played here, they're always Orioles. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way we feel about these guys in Baltimore. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be on the current team. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got Orioles with us today, Brad and Mark and Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>with one of the shows in our family of networks,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. Of course, Stout Territory is the national show,

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<v Speaker 1>Birdland Territory is the Oriel Show, and Halo Territory covers

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels and Mark's been doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mark, how you enjoying media life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a lot of fun, a lot of learning involved,

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<v Speaker 3>made some mistakes as you would expect, but tried not

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<v Speaker 3>to make them twice and it's a whole different world,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more respect for this side of things. Trying

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<v Speaker 3>to cover stories accurately. Sometimes they're not the most pleasant stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Following the action. I mean, you have to pivot quite

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<v Speaker 3>quickly at times. It could, at least for us planning episodes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we kind of have this and then

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<v Speaker 3>the team comes back out of nowhere and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>recovers from a seven run deficit and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>go to a different storyline. So a lot more appreciation

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<v Speaker 3>for how hard some of this stuff is. But we

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<v Speaker 3>just try and cover things as we see it. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>pull on any punches, but you know, not unfair either,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been fun so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're thrilled to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want these other guys that jump in with questions

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<v Speaker 1>from Mark Trumbo of course, was traded to the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>December of twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And what a first year you had. Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did you leave the Oriols in homers, you

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<v Speaker 1>led major League Baseball in homers with forty seven if

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<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly. I remember interviewing you early in the

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<v Speaker 1>year and you gave me some great insights on your

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<v Speaker 1>winter work. And you were telling me at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we're going back ten years about things like launch

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<v Speaker 1>angle and exit velocity and things you were seeking which

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<v Speaker 1>were new to me. Maybe not the baseball players then

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<v Speaker 1>now they're really obviously everybody hears it all.

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<v Speaker 2>The time in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>But do I remember that correctly that you had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of worked on some things that winter, and then man,

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<v Speaker 1>when the season started.

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<v Speaker 2>They worked. You are correct.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much I expanded upon them, but

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<v Speaker 3>there were some goals in mind. I knew that this

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<v Speaker 3>is I mean, it was a primitive time as far

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<v Speaker 3>as the stuff goes. So I think over that winner.

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<v Speaker 3>I come off a season, an interesting season. I had

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<v Speaker 3>got traded from the Diamondbacks to the Mariners. I got

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<v Speaker 3>some really good advice from Edgar Martinez in Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 3>it helped me become a better hitter, at least on

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<v Speaker 3>pitches on the inside part of the plate, which had

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<v Speaker 3>always been fairly big weakness of mine. But I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hit the ball in the air quite enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I cringe now because long angle, exit velocity, they're just everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I think most at least me in particular a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit fatigue hearing them. But at that time I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thought that that was something I could improve upon.

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<v Speaker 3>Fortunately it did work out in twenty sixteen, especially to

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<v Speaker 3>my advantage, to the Oriels advantage as well. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was a great memory and it gave me a background

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<v Speaker 3>piece here so my loan, well, I guess I got

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<v Speaker 3>two ones off camera, but yeah, it was my best

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<v Speaker 3>season statistically and a great experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Mark, just kind of going on twenty sixteen. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>for me, one of my favorite memories was getting to

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<v Speaker 4>go to San Diego with you, Zach wieders Man. He

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<v Speaker 4>just got to have that All Star experience with guys

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<v Speaker 4>on our team. But most particular was the home run derby.

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<v Speaker 4>If just any memories you have from and that, to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of my favorite memories of the whole experience,

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<v Speaker 4>was getting to watch you go out there. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's a action packed a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you were tired as you're going through that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a very unusual type thing. But just any experience

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<v Speaker 4>you have from the home Run Derby, in particular during

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<v Speaker 4>that All Star experience, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm still tired from it, to be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you. That was the time format I had done

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<v Speaker 3>the other one as well, the previous one with the outs.

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<v Speaker 3>I much preferred that the time one was grueling, and

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<v Speaker 3>towards the end of it, I felt like something was

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<v Speaker 3>going to blow a bleak or otherwise. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of swings, a lot of maps, efforts swings,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not really something. I mean, you can try

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<v Speaker 3>and prepare a little bit, but you can't nail it

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<v Speaker 3>and if you do well in it, and you I

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<v Speaker 3>think I had to work quite hard in the first

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<v Speaker 3>round to take Corey Seeger out and that was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more work than I want to do. Some guys

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<v Speaker 3>are able to breeze through, and then Stanton I I

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<v Speaker 3>think sent me packing and maybe soon after. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was a fun experience. It was something. It's

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<v Speaker 3>way more for the fans. There is some prize money

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It is nerve wracking too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind of do realize once you're up there and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no turtle. I think that's the weirdest thing. As

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<v Speaker 3>you're hitting out in practice in the game, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you're used to it, but in that situation and it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dawns on you how many people might be

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<v Speaker 3>watching at home, and you just you try and I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to be embarrassed at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, so you just try and put on a

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<v Speaker 3>good show. And that one I think I did do

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't win it, but especially down in San Diego too,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a rock and environment. I think you'd agree, Brad,

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<v Speaker 3>really fun place to host something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 5>It's always a topic of conversation every single year following

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<v Speaker 5>the home run derby, like, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>My gosh, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna mess up your swinging the lasting effects from it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that overblown to you, Mark? Or is there maybe

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<v Speaker 5>something to that.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as guys changing their swings or affecting them

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<v Speaker 3>as they move forward. Yeah, yeah, there's probably evidence on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of it. I think some guys do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're having great seasons and continue to

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<v Speaker 3>have great seasons. I think sometimes things do go the

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<v Speaker 3>other way. The advice I would give is my Drought,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, has expressed a little bit of open willingness

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<v Speaker 3>at least to do it this year in Philadelphia. He

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<v Speaker 3>has never done it before. I think he probably wants

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<v Speaker 3>to possibly explore doing it once in his career. He's

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<v Speaker 3>from that area. This would make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 3>He is also injured right now, so that's something to

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<v Speaker 3>look at. I think that, like Pete Alonzo, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't that's him all day long. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>seen anyone better at it than him, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem to affect his in game. But if and it

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<v Speaker 3>does affect it, it it's in a positive way. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that if there's anyone that could probably give advice on

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<v Speaker 3>the subject, it's Pete A. Lonzo.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Trumbo's with us, Mark and Brad Orioles as I

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<v Speaker 1>called him, not former Orioles. And of course we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that twenty sixteen All Star Game, and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>has been an All Star twice, twenty twelve and twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and Brad two of the Orioles five All Star

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<v Speaker 1>reps that year. Silver Slugger winner in twenty sixteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Mark, let's talk about Taylor Ward, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>guy you've seen play a lot for the Angels the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, had that incredible season last year, comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore. I think the media would say, Man, we

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<v Speaker 1>love this guy. He's been great to deal with. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he won the good Guy Award from the Angels media.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see why. And so the power has been

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<v Speaker 1>slow to come. There might be some reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 1>At what kind of player was he with the Angels?

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<v Speaker 1>The last few years, Taylor was very consistent. Numbers were,

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<v Speaker 1>at least on the power side, always very impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>The batting average was respectable in today's really actually maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a little above average, depending on how the game keeps trending.

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<v Speaker 3>But but really he was counted on to hit, clean up,

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<v Speaker 3>provide some protection, drove in a ton of runs. But

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<v Speaker 3>in the outfield defense was at times a little perplexing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say I would have rated him as probably

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<v Speaker 3>an average defender. The arm maybe a little below at times,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think the metrics always looked more favorably than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he did play a nice left field. He

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<v Speaker 3>was always in the right spot, so I think he

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<v Speaker 3>did his homework and that in that regard. And he

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<v Speaker 3>was patient at the plate, sometimes too much. So there

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of strike three lookings that at least

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<v Speaker 3>the Angel fans at times would implore him to take

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<v Speaker 3>the bat off the shoulder. But that's part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's part of the trade off of being a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that walks upon you. I think the new mindset is

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<v Speaker 3>to let the umpire decide with the pitch challenging. That's

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<v Speaker 3>been interesting too. I don't know how it's gone for

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<v Speaker 3>the Orioles exactly. But the Angels have done well, not

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<v Speaker 3>that great a job at least from the hitters that

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<v Speaker 3>are challenging. So as far as Taylor this season, it

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<v Speaker 3>appears the walks are through the roof and the home

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<v Speaker 3>runs are a little bit down. Do you guys have

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<v Speaker 3>any thoughts on why that might be? Brad?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we don't know. If he got hurt. He got

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<v Speaker 4>hit with a pitch in April and he started wearing

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<v Speaker 4>a heavy pad on his left hand, and from there

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<v Speaker 4>it was his plate discipline was through the roof. He

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<v Speaker 4>just wasn't swinging and he was walking. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>felt like he was walking at least once every single game.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, lately, he's been seeming to be lee a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more aggressive, so I think he's starting to

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<v Speaker 4>get the power back a little bit. He had a

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<v Speaker 4>home run the other day at Dodger Stadium, so we're

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<v Speaker 4>hoping to see a little bit more from that from

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<v Speaker 4>him in that regard. But to me, it just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of seemed like early on it was just it's hurt

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<v Speaker 4>is the only way I can kind of see that

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<v Speaker 4>something was bothering with his hand. He just wasn't able

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<v Speaker 4>to get to the inside pitch and drive it, especially

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<v Speaker 4>came the yards, you know, how the ball flies there.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's it just hasn't seemed to be quite as aggressive.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's starting to change here a little bit the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of weeks, so hopefully the power will be

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<v Speaker 4>come from there. But you probably know more than anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>a hand injury that you play through, you're able to

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<v Speaker 4>play through. He's probably got to be one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most difficult things as a hitter. If you know you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to go on the il, but you're feeling

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<v Speaker 4>it every swing you take. It's you know, certain pitches

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<v Speaker 4>that you're just not going to go after anymore because

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<v Speaker 4>you can't drive it. So that's just kind of what

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen a little bit, and what I've seen from

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<v Speaker 4>watching him throughout these games.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that makes a lot of sense. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that really too. He will go on these streaks

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<v Speaker 3>where you get the end of the year total thirty

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<v Speaker 3>plus home runs and sometimes you know, it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>there's patches where there weren't that many, but he'll bunch

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<v Speaker 3>them up, you know, hit seven, eight, nine, in a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of you know, fourteen days, fifteen days or something,

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<v Speaker 3>or a months total or whatever, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>how he gets it done. So I have a little

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<v Speaker 3>surprise looking at it so far, though it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like the same version of Taylor that I saw last

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<v Speaker 3>year with the Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim, I'm gonna let you jump in in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to keep this show moving on time.

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<v Speaker 1>Your little business, we'll do that, and we'll continue with

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people in Baltimore definitely bummed

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<v Speaker 5>the Trey Mancini not going to be a part of

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<v Speaker 5>this series after getting DFA. But I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>get your thoughts on his comeback story. Obviously, you and

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<v Speaker 5>Brad played with him when he was first coming up,

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<v Speaker 5>and for a guy to go three years in between

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<v Speaker 5>MLB games and his first game back multi hits, driving

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<v Speaker 5>in runs at how cool was it seeing Trey make

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<v Speaker 5>that comeback?

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible to take that much time off. He was all

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<v Speaker 3>but retired. I mean in his mind he was retired.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't training, He was playing tennis at a local

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<v Speaker 3>country club and being a dad. I mean, baseball was

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<v Speaker 3>not at the forefront of his mind. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>there was probably mentally that some unfinished business that when

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<v Speaker 3>guys retire, very few get to do the heroes exit

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<v Speaker 3>with teams, you know, gifting you this parade and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times it is what it is, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's injury, maybe its performance and your time comes

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<v Speaker 3>to an end. And I think for Trey he was

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<v Speaker 3>never after the cancer diagnosis and treatment, he wasn't able

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<v Speaker 3>to quite produce the results that he had previously, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that kind of was something that wore

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<v Speaker 3>on him a little bit. But it's also completely understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's huge life changing stuff, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was still able to be a very good ballplayer, just

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the power side wasn't quite there. I do know

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<v Speaker 3>that Brady Anderson, who everyone you know Oriel Territory and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fans of the Orioles knows well, was very

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<v Speaker 3>pivotal in getting Trey to give it another shot, getting

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<v Speaker 3>in his ear saying that he still had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more to offer. And Brady is now the hitting coach

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<v Speaker 3>for the Angels, so he had kind of an insider

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<v Speaker 3>perspective there and said that at least with the depth

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<v Speaker 3>that they have. You don't come into camp non roster

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<v Speaker 3>invitee type thing. And to Trey's credit, he stuck it

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<v Speaker 3>out for quite a while in tripa A. Even when

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<v Speaker 3>initially Nolan Shaanawell got injured, Trey didn't get the call,

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<v Speaker 3>but I kind of thought if there was a time

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<v Speaker 3>to pull the plug and maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it to the house, it would have been there.

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<v Speaker 3>But he stayed around a little bit longer, and fortunately

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<v Speaker 3>another injury and Von Grissom and Trey did get promoted

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<v Speaker 3>and performed quite well in the limited stint. He got

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<v Speaker 3>shorter than he would have liked, and I would have liked,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone would have liked. But being I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four years old now and the Angels going with

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<v Speaker 3>a younger group, that's the nature of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, well over the years in Oriole playing the Angels

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<v Speaker 1>in Camden Yards, so it hit the ball to the

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<v Speaker 1>center field, better hitted ten feet over the fence or

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Trout was going to catch it. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>time and time again. Kind of bums me out that

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the il We're not going to see him

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<v Speaker 1>in this series. I just so much appreciate the greatness

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<v Speaker 1>of Mike Trout over the years, Millville, New Jersey would

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<v Speaker 1>empty out and come to Camden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yards for those series. What's it like watching him?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe getting to know him a little bit, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a little insight inside.

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<v Speaker 2>What makes this guy great for so long?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's I mean, look at the numbers. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, this is a player that's Mike is also

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<v Speaker 3>about the same age as Tray thirty five years old,

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<v Speaker 3>I think thirty four to thirty five and having a

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<v Speaker 3>big research in year this year. Now, the last handful

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<v Speaker 3>of years have been very injury prone and he's missed

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<v Speaker 3>quite a bit of time. A lot of people have

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<v Speaker 3>thought that not even close to the player he once was.

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<v Speaker 3>But this year he came in. Last year the experimenter

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<v Speaker 3>was playing in the right field, thought it would be easier

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<v Speaker 3>on the body. Tried to get him some more days

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<v Speaker 3>at d H just to keep him on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>and over the winter they hired a new manager in

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt Suzuki, and that's been interesting. But the news came

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<v Speaker 3>out that Mike was going to be the everyday center

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<v Speaker 3>fielder again. He said he thought it would be better

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<v Speaker 3>for him, better for him availability wise, health, wise, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's played almost every day up until these last few games.

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<v Speaker 3>Very productive as well. The average is lower than it

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<v Speaker 3>once was, but he's taken a ton of walks, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a byproduct of not having as much protection. Taylor Ward

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<v Speaker 3>was a guy that actually did a nice job of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been a mix and match this year with

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<v Speaker 3>who they've chosen. But I've talked to him in the

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<v Speaker 3>last few days. The hamstring injury, said is very you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a Grade one. It's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>big deal. Probably going to be ten to fourteen days

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<v Speaker 3>best case, and he'll be back out there. Unfortunately, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be against the Orioles, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think the Oriols mind that.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't I wish. I'd love to see him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah. So Mark's one of the most prepaired hitters

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<v Speaker 4>I think I ever played with, just guys constantly went

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Last night, he's texting me about some of

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<v Speaker 4>the oil stuff. He looked up and he happened to

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<v Speaker 4>see the quotes about Samuel Bissio and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of get his thoughts on. It's the guy's

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one years old. And he hasn't played a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of games period across his career. Just what is that

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<v Speaker 4>like for a young hitter? If you remember when you

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<v Speaker 4>first came up, what you had to deal with, just

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff getting thrown at you throw the catching

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on top of it. Just how difficult is it

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<v Speaker 4>to adjust to major league life? And he's only twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one years old, So just any insights that you have

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<v Speaker 4>on what he might be going through right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>just maybe some of your insights on what you thought

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<v Speaker 4>on some of the we kind of called the bizarre

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<v Speaker 4>comments that came out about everything, and just a kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a bizarre scenario that happened a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty one years old, I was floundering in the Midwest League,

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<v Speaker 3>my second tour of duty there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a different world, I think. In that same article,

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<v Speaker 3>Ken Rosenthal and Britain Gearari, I believe it was Ken

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<v Speaker 3>that that wrote that a lot of stuff to unpack there.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as Bazollo goes, it appears that Craig Albertus

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to send a message to some degree playing

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<v Speaker 3>through injury and what it takes at the big league level.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that there's a point there. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that's an old school approach unless I'm, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not not getting it correct. But the story seemed pretty definitive,

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<v Speaker 3>and and that's what happened, U benching one of your

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<v Speaker 3>most productive bats. That's a tough thing to do if

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<v Speaker 3>if the offense as a whole, looking at the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>kind of to prepare to come on today, it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like the offense is a fair amount of strikeouts, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of walks, and then the very middle of the pack,

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<v Speaker 3>and in most other regards, the ops didn't really There

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<v Speaker 3>were a couple of guys north of eight hundred. Pat

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo seems to have really heat it up. And there

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<v Speaker 3>was another player. You're gonna have to remind me, Brad,

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<v Speaker 3>but Alexander Okay, he came from the Diamondbacks, I think

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<v Speaker 3>at one point. Okay, yeah, he's looked really promising. But

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<v Speaker 3>beyond that, I guess Rutchman has suffered an injury too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yeah, cushion, I L can cussion, I L I

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<v Speaker 4>got hit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So there were a few guys like Mayo whose numbers

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<v Speaker 3>quite honestly didn't look that impressive, and he's getting quite

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<v Speaker 3>a few at bats, and I wonder if they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's tough to piece together it is to stay in

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<v Speaker 3>success if if you have really realistically in any lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably gonna have two guys that are really going well,

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<v Speaker 3>which seems to kind of be the case. But you

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<v Speaker 3>can't have three or four guys going really poorly. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if that is what's going on, but

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to have some anchors that are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on any given day, capable of getting two hits, three hits.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to do it every day, but still

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<v Speaker 3>able to competitive at bats, productive outs, manufactured some runs

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, have some comfortable leads. The pitching seems okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Starters for you guys have had some injuries, so at

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<v Speaker 3>least in the series coming up with the Angels, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be seeing the three really good pitchers there.

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<v Speaker 3>There may be Urania on the last day, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Alde Gary Uh tonight, tomorrow. It could

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<v Speaker 3>be anyone. It could be an opener, it could be

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<v Speaker 3>who knows uh. And then that third game, if it

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<v Speaker 3>is Urin, yeah he's been really special. If it's someone else,

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<v Speaker 3>delete that. But the Angels at least. I know it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, wandering here, but have had some

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<v Speaker 3>really real bright spots with their starting pitching the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally different story though.

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<v Speaker 1>Workout whether it's today on Birdland Territory. Got to squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>in another time out and then we'll continue here in

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<v Speaker 1>Birdland Territory today with our special guest, Mark Trumbo, the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen MLB homer leader and now part of Halo

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<v Speaker 1>Territory covering the Angels and Tim you're up.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark, I wanted to continue to drill on something that

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<v Speaker 5>you were bringing up prior to the break, and that

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<v Speaker 5>was the Rosenthal ritual only piece, but also you mentioning, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>when you were twenty one years old, you were on

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<v Speaker 5>your second tour of duty and the miners and Brad

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<v Speaker 5>has brought this up a lot on the podcast too,

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<v Speaker 5>Just how young these guys are. And this isn't an

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<v Speaker 5>Orioles thing. This is a baseball thing where development is

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<v Speaker 5>happening at the major league level that's becoming kind of commonplace.

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<v Speaker 4>Just how what have you thought of kind of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Evolution of that and trending more in that direction in

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<v Speaker 5>recent years.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a byproduct of the agent curve that

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<v Speaker 3>is quite a it around the game. Some guys are

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<v Speaker 3>able to play and sustain success well into their thirties,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 3>but a lot aren't, and the teams are aware of that.

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 3>We've seen it reflected in free agent deals, and then

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 3>you guys did an episode I believe on the upcoming CBA.

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>All of that is, we haven't broached that subject yet.

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 3>A lot to unpack, and I really wanted to have

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 3>a little better understanding before I, you know, maybe look

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 3>foolish saying things, but the game is going very young,

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 3>and development at the big league level is a new

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 3>trendy topic. I've heard Give Kapler talk talk about it

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 3>a bit. What it really means to me is there's

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>going to be some sloppy baseball, and there's going to

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 3>be some things that fans hopefully can give a longer

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 3>leash and have a bit more patience because we're going

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 3>to have guys up here that may not know some

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 3>of the fundamental aspects of the game. Sliding could be PFPS,

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 3>it could be any number of things. And the for

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 3>a guy like it was all of twenty one years old.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 3>The big league season make no mistake, is one hundred

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 3>and sixty two games is a lot longer than the

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 3>minor league season, and there's you don't get a day

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 3>off every seven days. I think Pete Alonzo had some

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 3>comments that as far as the minor leagues go, it's

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 3>never been more comfortable. It's a different world, and it's

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 3>hard for an ex player to not come off as

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, I get off my lawn kind of a

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>boomer because I remember no names or anything. But I

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 3>saw a guy come into a day game when I

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 3>was rehabbing years ago and told the manager at the

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 3>time in the minor leagues that he didn't get a

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 3>good night's sleep and he he wasn't able to go.

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 3>And I sat there and almost jaw on the floor.

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 3>But any the manager at the time, you know, you respect.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.959
<v Speaker 3>I guess that was that was an organizational thing and

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 3>a big deal. You know, he didn't recover well and

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 3>we're going to give him the day. Had I said

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>anything like that, probably would have been cardboard box in

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 3>front of my locker ready to hit the road. So

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 3>it just is it right or wrong. It's just different,

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>and I think it is. It is tough for guys

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 3>that only know one way. It looks soft, to be

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 3>honest with you, and and it's very tough, you know,

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 3>trying to do what I'm doing now is seeing it

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 3>from both sides? What are the advantages? What are the disadvantages?

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 3>But I think if you can get a guy comfortable

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>and producing at the big league level as early as possible,

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get a lot of really good years out

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>of him. Uh, Basolo, did he sign an extension? Is

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>he like an eight year contract?

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think that. I mean, you already have him,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 3>you're paying him. Why not get the most out of it.

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 3>How's the catching? Do you guys have it?

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<v Speaker 4>Steve?

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 3>How does he look back there?

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>He looks fine.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>He's got a big arm, and he's pretty agile for

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>his size, and the Orioles have always insisted he could

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>continue as a catcher when some scouts thought otherwise, and

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>he has. He's been pretty solid. I think the guys

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>like throwing to him. Obviously, there are some finer points.

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>He's got to clean up and learn and develop at

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>just twenty one. But I mean the other night when

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Rogers throw a great game against the Dodgers, he cited

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Basio back there, for helping him. So I think he's

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>playing pretty good reviews overall. You know, from twenty one

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>years old, Yeah, came out of the Dominican Republic and

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he was the shining star of their international program, and

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you're going to be a shining star in big

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<v Speaker 1>league baseball.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 3>If basio is the pronunciation, sorry, Brad, yeah.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Misio, yeah, basio. But it's all right. It's he he's gotten.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 4>Even like from April to May, there was a big

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 4>difference in his catching. You could tell the confidence the

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>pitchers have a him. I think early on maybe there

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.719
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit more of button pressing and maybe

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 4>the pitcher going to his belt and that you haven't

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 4>really seen that the last couple of months. So he's

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 4>definitely come a long way in the catching side, and

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 4>then to be able to have his bat produce at

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 4>the level it has, Like we said, it was just

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 4>a it was just a bizarre scenario that happened two

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 4>weeks ago, because it was it looked like he got hurt,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 4>like he was swinging hurt, Like he had a game

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 4>on Saturday or Sunday in Toronto where every single swing

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 4>he took he was grimacing. And the next day, he

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 4>takes a slide a home plate where it's an awkward play,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 4>and then it's basically I'm gonna paraphrase this and not

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 4>the words of the organization used, but basically he was

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 4>being a baby, is what they kind of. I mean,

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 4>you guys can mistake correct me if I'm wrong, But

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 4>it was just kind of the way it came out

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>that like, you need to man up and you're not hurt.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 4>We had you checked out, and you gotta go play.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 4>And it was like him and Atalie both were in

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:45.959
<v Speaker 4>the line for two days, and they brought up a

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 4>third catcher and he was catching, and it was just

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 4>it was just a bizarre scenario. So to experience all

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 4>this at twenty one and kind of get I think,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 4>like Mark you were saying the minor leagues, I think

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 4>that guys would get that in the minor leagues, where

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 4>you mess up, you sit for two days. But at

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 4>the big league level, when you're trying to win games

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 4>and there are four or five games under five hundred

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 4>right now, you take one of your biggest bats out

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 4>of the line for two days. It was a big

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 4>message that was sent. That's how I saw it, and I.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 5>Think Chris Bassett had the quotes in that article in

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 5>the Athol like basically saying that, yeah, you need the

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 5>tough love early on. That way, it's not you know,

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 5>a culture shock, you know at the major league level

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 5>one paraphrasing, but the Bassett had quotes very similar to that.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that's one thing the Oriols seem to have

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 3>as some veteran leadership that contrasting with the Angels. Trouv

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>does a pretty good job in that regard, but he's

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>not a very vocal guy. You're never going to see

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>quotes like you saw from Bassett or Alonso come from him.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 3>So when you guys see him this series, you're going

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>to see a lot of showmanship, a lot of stuff

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>that's not my cup of tea. But if the Angels

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 3>do play well at all, the short stuff, in particular

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 3>as a flair for the dramatic, he's been channeling Pokemon,

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 3>uh you know kind of uh for inspiration and and

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 3>said that he attributed that the Pokemon character to opening,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, trading cards and other things. So I'm trying

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to keep up with the world. But uh, Pikachuu, I

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>guess it was the name of it. It's been interesting.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>What how's the Orioles bullpen? Look? Uh, who's closing?

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right now it's Hell's he's back, but he's uh,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 4>he struggled his last his first two addings off the

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 4>i L The other night they use I think it

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 4>was wolf m Was it Wolfram start the ninth and

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 4>then uh yeniar Cano came in to finish it or

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 4>the Cano.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But they had this guy, Rico Garcia. He was unbelievable.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>It gave like one hit in the first two months

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 4>of the season. He's kind of come back to earth

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>a little bit, but he's still gonna probably be seventh

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>eighth inning guy. They had Anthony Nuniez who was pitching

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 4>really well, but he's a rookie still basically learning how

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 4>to pitch the big league level. But he just got

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 4>sent down a triple A. So if most it's gonna

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 4>be Hellsley, he'll be in the ninth inning. I think

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 4>if the game is a safe situation, so he was.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 4>He's been around a while. Obviously, closer big Arm just

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>kind of got ambushed his first outing. First two pitches

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 4>he threw in Seattle home runs on and then he

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 4>had kind of a safe situation he put himself into.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 4>It was lights out and then last outing at the

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 4>against the Dodgers, they they got him pretty good. So

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 4>I have to imagine it's going to be him in

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 4>the ninth and then any any combination of the rest

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>of the guys seventh through the eighth.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>That other Los Angeles team is a pretty good team,

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>by the way.

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're pretty good, pretty good, pretty good.

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>We here, we've seen been playing in October the last

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>few years. Mark before we say goodbye and thanks for

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>all the time today, And I hope fans check you

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>out on Halo Territory. And to be honest, I'll tell

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you man, that's how I found out. I came across

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys one day and was watching your show and

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, geez, do they have an Oriel show like?

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And found out they didn't. And then here we are

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a few months later, the three of us doing Birdland

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Territory because really, because that's all Halo territory. So I

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>enjoy what you guys are doing. Let's edit on this note.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>When you played in Baltimore, it can be a special place.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you're having the year you had

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen. Hopefully the fans are showing you, you know,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the love you would desire or would be great for

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a player having a great year. So let me try

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to clean up my sentence here and say, what was

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it like to play for the fans in Birdland?

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Exceptional? I had no clue what to expect growing up

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 3>on the West Coast. Orioles are not a team that

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 3>was on my radar. You don't get that same experience

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 3>as a visiting player either. You're kind of in you're out.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 3>So I came into it with an open mind and

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>was blown away. I mean that is as Baltimore as

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>a baseball city. They're passionate about their Orioles. They want

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>to look and have a good team on the field

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 3>as often as possible. I think the fans showed a

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 3>lot of patients when a full rebuild took place and

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the team came out better on the other side, and

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>they've still played, you know, really competitive baseball. They're in

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>stacked division. But I think from the fans perspective, there's

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 3>nothing more I could have asked. It was a lot

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>of fun in my time there, getting you know, around

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 3>the city and just the polar opposite of what we're

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>used to overhere, So I have nothing, but you know

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of great memories from that time, and you

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>know it's holds a special place. I think we're planning

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>to come out pretty soon for Chris Davis's induction to

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 3>the Oriels Hall of Fame, so that that should be

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun. Really good close friend of mine,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Hank Congress, coaching in the bullpen for the O's, So

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 3>we're very interested in what's going on there, enjoy visiting

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and and you know, it holds a very special place

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 3>in my heart memories and it was a great time.

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Steve one one question before I'd let you guys totally go.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you guys buyers or sellers?

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Flip a coin? We don't know the answer to that

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>one yet.

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I think these next three or four weeks Mark are

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>going to determine that. I think they hope they're going

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to be buyers, and that's the plan all along. If

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it bottoms out over the next couple of weeks. I

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>think fans are hoping this Dodger series spurs them on,

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but we've said it before and it didn't, so now

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they've got to go. It's go time, and there seems

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to be enough talent to be buyers.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 2>So right now. They fired their manager.

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Last week and the GM is kind of on the

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>hot seat now with Elias and and Birdland wants a winner,

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>as you know, and you know what it can be

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>like when they get one here, So it's going to

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>be an interesting few weeks for first step on the gas.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's time to go win some games like it.

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, got some energy.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 4>It should be a good.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Serious it should be. Mark.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for taking time with us, man. I really enjoyed

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>covering you when you became an oriol. You were great

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<v Speaker 1>to me and media guys, and I think you were.

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<v Speaker 1>You were good for the fans too, so great to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from you today. Great to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Trumbo with us today on Berdland Territory. Really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Check him out on Hallo Territory and those

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<v Speaker 1>fans thanks for watching today.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next time.