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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace here Big Knees brand new cold case podcast,

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Speaker 1: Zone seven with Cheryl McCollum. I'm Cheryl McCollum. Now this

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Speaker 1: ain't just any old podcast, honey. As a crime scene

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Speaker 1: investigator with over forty years experience in the criminal justice system,

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Speaker 1: I started my career and the trenches, and Honey, I've

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Speaker 1: stayed there. So I've worked every facet of the criminal

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Speaker 1: justice system, police chords and corrections. I've worked with law

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Speaker 1: enforcement and victims of crime and criminals to solve cold cases.

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Speaker 1: And I have genuinely befriended them all, well not all

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Speaker 1: of them, but most of the As a working CSI

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Speaker 1: I'm not a first responder. I'm a last responder. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be bringing you into the depths of these

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Speaker 1: cases with me. We're going to talk to family members.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy was the girliest of the three of us. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: was the dancer. She was, you know, tiny and fetite

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Speaker 1: and just cute, and she had great tone and she

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Speaker 1: just excelled everything she did and dance that was her thing.

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Speaker 1: She loved it and she had a ton of friends.

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Speaker 1: She did. The thing about me and Tammy that was

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Speaker 1: very different, is I was always very I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of common sense. I had at a street smart.

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Speaker 1: Tammy wasn't Tammy was very spontaneous. Tammy was very in

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Speaker 1: the moment, and it's like, this is great, this feels good.

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Speaker 1: Let's just do this. I'm not going to think about

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Speaker 1: what happens next. Detectives and prosecutors on these cases. She

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Speaker 1: was stabbed at least one hundred and thirty times and

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Speaker 1: at some point in time a brand. We know that

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Speaker 1: there was probably other things that placed. As far as

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Speaker 1: her injuries are concerned, it would have had to have

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Speaker 1: been there before had knowledge of it. Sessiveness of the

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Speaker 1: brutality of what happened to her is more than just

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Speaker 1: a dumped body that we sometimes see. Last place she's noticed,

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Speaker 1: she's walking down the root in Savannash. Her body is

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Speaker 1: discovered the next morning. I will get you. Science will

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Speaker 1: get you. My bread and butter is interviews and interrogation,

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Speaker 1: and all I need is just a little bit. The

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Speaker 1: suspect is going to be done. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 1: way unless they're dead. I'm coming for you, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be bringing in some special guests for my

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Speaker 1: own Zone seven, a group of professionals that I have

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Speaker 1: called on for years to help me work hundreds of

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Speaker 1: cases you've heard of and thousands you haven't. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about these people because we started a podcast to help

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Speaker 1: find perpetrators, not just tell stories, that's right. I want

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Speaker 1: you to help me actually solve these cases, many of

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Speaker 1: which have been cold for decades. You get to work

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Speaker 1: a cold case. Listen to his own Seven with Cheryl

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Speaker 1: McCollum now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts