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Speaker 1: I'm not an atheist, and I wonder. I'm sure I
Speaker 1: have atheists listening as we speak. I wonder how you
Speaker 1: come up with your moral code if you are one,
Speaker 1: Because societies throughout the history of mankind have used religion
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Speaker 1: the Aztecs and you're carving out the heart of children,
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Speaker 1: talk today about one of the most fascinating individuals you
Speaker 1: probably have never heard of, and I will tell you
Speaker 1: I have been reading on him for twenty four hours
Speaker 1: now and I still cannot figure out if this person
Speaker 1: is genuine, if he's the best con man of all time,
Speaker 1: if he's a mixture of the two, clearly brilliant, maybe insane.
Speaker 1: I don't know, And you're going to have to come
Speaker 1: up with your own and full disclosure, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some Mormon talk today. I'm not a Mormon, and if
Speaker 1: I screw something up with your religion, you're welcome to
Speaker 1: email me. But I don't feel bad about it. I
Speaker 1: just you tell the rule if you get offended at
Speaker 1: your fault. I've done the best I can to present
Speaker 1: this as accurately as humanly possible. Buck up, butter cup.
Speaker 1: But you are welcome to correct me if I get
Speaker 1: basics wrong. That doesn't bother me in the least. Then
Speaker 1: you're welcome to yell at me too. I get that.
Speaker 1: If you got to get something off your chest, just
Speaker 1: no that. I don't care if you're offended. I don't
Speaker 1: get offended. Say whatever you want about me, My religion,
Speaker 1: my family doesn't matter me. James Strang, that's the man's name.
Speaker 1: He was born in New York, and from an early
Speaker 1: age his mother was all over him as far as
Speaker 1: protecting him goes. He was kind of a delicate boy,
Speaker 1: they said. But again, it's so odd. From an early
Speaker 1: early age he appeared to be brilliant, genius. As a child,
Speaker 1: he kept diaries. He kept diaries where he talked extensively
Speaker 1: about how he thought he was supposed to be some
Speaker 1: great world leader or general, compared himself to Napoleon. Wanted
Speaker 1: to be that way. But also get this, wrote many
Speaker 1: things in his diaries in code code that nobody could
Speaker 1: decipher for over a hundred years after he died. As
Speaker 1: a child, I don't I don't understand how that happens.
Speaker 1: He has a list of jobs. As he's coming up.
Speaker 1: He has a list of religions, including atheism. He's a Baptist.
Speaker 1: At one point in time, he's most definitely a Charlotton.
Speaker 1: At this point, does he remain as Charlotton? Well, you'll
Speaker 1: have to decide for yourself. And what I say Charlotton,
Speaker 1: I mean he's sold land to people in other states
Speaker 1: that didn't exist, ended up having to leave town because
Speaker 1: he sold land to a man in Ohio. And the
Speaker 1: man goes to Ohio and the land doesn't exist, comes
Speaker 1: back and says James, and James says peace. I'm heading
Speaker 1: west and we are talking nineteenth century here. Nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: You need to understand a couple of things. Eighteen thirties
Speaker 1: eighteen thirty four thirty five ish is a wealthy time
Speaker 1: in the United States of America. There is a humongous,
Speaker 1: humongous boom, economic boom in this country. There was silver
Speaker 1: that was wages were up, employment was up. And at
Speaker 1: this point in time we are in the westward bansion
Speaker 1: portion of America. This is going to be fairly rough
Speaker 1: as far as maps go, but you need to think
Speaker 1: of the Illinois really is that's Western America, and people
Speaker 1: are beginning to explore out west of that. They're going
Speaker 1: out to Utah, California, Colorado, and that place is still
Speaker 1: considered to be wild and untamed. It is very much
Speaker 1: dangerous country, Indian country, animal country. It's it's scary country.
Speaker 1: But people pushed west for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 1: People pushed west for freedom, You'll get a piece of land,
Speaker 1: start my own thing. People pushed west for personal reasons.
Speaker 1: Wife left me. I'm gonna strike out on my own.
Speaker 1: People pushed west for religious reason reasons, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: convert the savages, or in the case of the Mormons,
Speaker 1: I'm going to push west because everyone hates our freaking guts.
Speaker 1: And they did, and they ended up settling in a
Speaker 1: place Navoo, Illinois. It's a town that still exists, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into everything that happened there,
Speaker 1: but just no, this is the place where Joseph Smith
Speaker 1: was assassinated as he sat in jail, assassinated as in
Speaker 1: two hundred men busted in and shot them to death.
Speaker 1: Mormons are trying to find a safe place for them
Speaker 1: to practice their religion at this time, and what they
Speaker 1: were running into was this America was extremely tolerant of religions,
Speaker 1: kind of extremely tolerant up to the point where your
Speaker 1: religion set yourself apart, superseded society, superseded the law. And
Speaker 1: there was a Mormon thing where they really believed in
Speaker 1: setting up a monarch, a king. I'm talking crown in
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Speaker 1: Joseph Smith is dead. The Mormon Kingdom, if you want
Speaker 1: to call it, I don't know if that's the right
Speaker 1: way to put it. In Navoo, it's gotta go getting
Speaker 1: run out of town. They need a new place to land,
Speaker 1: and they need a new leader. Because Joseph Smith is dead,
Speaker 1: the Mormon religion in America needs a new leader. Brigham Young,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of him, steps up to the plate,
Speaker 1: clearly the leader in the clubhouse. Mister James Strang also
Speaker 1: steps up. You see, he had converted maybe to more monism.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know what's genuine and what's
Speaker 1: not genuine. We know, according to everybody, he was a
Speaker 1: relatively new convert to Mormonism, new Joseph Smith kind of.
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith dies and James Strang produces a letter from
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith. He claims this letter is naming him the
Speaker 1: new head of the Mormon Church. Now it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: We know the man has been a charlatan in the past.
Speaker 1: We think the letters of forgery. Maybe James Strang was
Speaker 1: a former postmaster to figure out if things are accurate
Speaker 1: or not. Back then, you would check dates. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: check dates stamps. You would try to figure out if
Speaker 1: they look legit. And as a former postmaster, James Strang
Speaker 1: would have possessed the ability to make it look legit.
Speaker 1: All that said, this letter still exists to this day.
Speaker 1: They still study it, and to this day there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that say this is crap, and
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of people that say this looks legit.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have answers to a lot
Speaker 1: of the questions we're going to ask today. I know this,
Speaker 1: James Strang produced a letter and said this is legit.
Speaker 1: And there are a bunch of Mormons that said, you're
Speaker 1: full of crap. And there are a bunch of Mormons
Speaker 1: that said, oh, that does look legit. And we have
Speaker 1: this divide in the Mormon Church. Now Brigham Young is
Speaker 1: heading west. You know how all that ended up. He's
Speaker 1: heading west. Let's get out of here. Let's get away
Speaker 1: from everybody where we can practice our faith by ourselves.
Speaker 1: Strang doesn't want to head west, and many Mormons make
Speaker 1: the decision to go with Strang, partially because they believe
Speaker 1: Strang's claims and partially because the West is scary. And
Speaker 1: let's be clear, the West is scary at this time.
Speaker 1: The best way I could describe it would probably be Africa.
Speaker 1: Pick some grassy plaine in Africa. Would you air drop
Speaker 1: yourself and your family into some grassy plain of Africa? Now,
Speaker 1: you might be fine, and you might not be fine.
Speaker 1: Things could work out great. You could be eaten in
Speaker 1: a bowl of stone from a cannibal tribe. Things could
Speaker 1: be fine. You could live a free life, or you
Speaker 1: could wake up in the jaws of a lion. You
Speaker 1: don't know. That's a great way to describe what the
Speaker 1: West really genuinely was in reality and in people's minds.
Speaker 1: Back then, wild animals, big ones. Remember, they didn't have
Speaker 1: grizzly bears really back east. Grizzly bears are a whole
Speaker 1: new animal. Lewis and Clark wrote about this famously in
Speaker 1: their diary as they were charting their way out west.
Speaker 1: These grizzly bears terrified them. They talked about these monsters.
Speaker 1: You would shoot seven eight times and it doesn't die.
Speaker 1: That's scary. You have Indian stories which are scary. Obviously,
Speaker 1: some of them are blown out of proportion, and some
Speaker 1: of them are complete fabrications, but some of them ain't.
Speaker 1: People being tortured to death, burned alive, scalped. These are
Speaker 1: stories that would be intimidating. So if you want to
Speaker 1: practice your religion the way you want to, and he
Speaker 1: wants your own place, but you don't necessarily you want
Speaker 1: to go clear out west, it seems a little dangerous.
Speaker 1: Maybe this Strang guy is somebody you would want to
Speaker 1: follow along with. And there are all kinds of divisions
Speaker 1: in the Mormon Church at this time, possibly still today again,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not part of it, but one
Speaker 1: of them is the multiple wives thing, polygamy. Strang at
Speaker 1: first was against it, then he was for it. Many people, many,
Speaker 1: many people who followed him were dead set against this
Speaker 1: polygamy thing. I don't know what that division looks like
Speaker 1: percentage wise in the Mormon Church, but many people were
Speaker 1: against it. They end up following Strang up to a
Speaker 1: place called Beaver Island, Quit Chris. Beaver Island is not small.
Speaker 1: It's in Lake Michigan. It's basically one quarter of the
Speaker 1: size of Michigan. It's huge, and they're searching for a
Speaker 1: utopian colony. This is the era of utopianism big time.
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason the Mormons are heading west.
Speaker 1: It's definitely one of the reasons they had to Beaver Island.
Speaker 1: And back to the question at the beginning about what
Speaker 1: you would do if you thought the world was ending
Speaker 1: and you were getting into heaven and the other guy wasn't.
Speaker 1: This was an extremely strong era for that way of thinking,
Speaker 1: especially amongst the Mormons. People thought the world was coming
Speaker 1: to an end for a variety of reasons, and people
Speaker 1: were desperate. Remember I said the market was going well
Speaker 1: in the early eighteen thirties. In eighteen thirty seven, you
Speaker 1: don't know about this, but there was a huge crash
Speaker 1: of all that. It's called the Panic of eighteen thirty seven,
Speaker 1: where the economy went into the crapper. That creates more
Speaker 1: panic for people, more desperation, more reaching out. And you
Speaker 1: find out there's a utopian colony on Beaver Island and
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, that sounds not too bad, now
Speaker 1: is how is mister Strang still convincing people of this. Well,
Speaker 1: he had more than just a letter kind of. He
Speaker 1: also had a vision, a dream, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it, where an angel came to him and told
Speaker 1: him you should be a leader. You can mock that
Speaker 1: all you want. Scared desperate people who were prone to
Speaker 1: believe that anyway may believe it. I will tell you
Speaker 1: I believe in angels one hundred percent. I believe angels
Speaker 1: have appeared and talked to people one percent. One hundred
Speaker 1: percent says it in the Bible. I believe. So if
Speaker 1: I'm a Mormon, is it that big of a stretch
Speaker 1: to think one would appear to somebody someone I already
Speaker 1: believe in. Maybe not. I don't want to make him
Speaker 1: out to be crazy idiots. You understand what I mean.
Speaker 1: And let's keep this in mind. Remember the diary when
Speaker 1: he was a kid. This is a guy who had
Speaker 1: several different jobs, and this was whatever he was, con man, religious, man, whatever.
Speaker 1: He was an extremely capable, charismatic, intelligent individual. He would
Speaker 1: not have appeared to be some wing nut up there
Speaker 1: as he's telling you the story of the angels visiting him.
Speaker 1: He also found some buried plates in the ground that
Speaker 1: happened to have some engravings saying, hey, this is our guy.
Speaker 1: Let's just say there was enough sign there that enough
Speaker 1: people believed him. We're talking twelve thousand people here. Enough
Speaker 1: people believed him. This is this is our guy. And
Speaker 1: as part of being the guy of Beaver Island, he
Speaker 1: has made the king, not necessarily of Beaver Island, but
Speaker 1: the king of the people there. Again, it's gonna sound
Speaker 1: like I'm defending him, makes him sound really bad, and
Speaker 1: I mean crown and everything that sounds really bad. But
Speaker 1: that was how Mormons did things at the time they
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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, there were some other people on
Speaker 1: the island. There were some Indians there. They kind of
Speaker 1: just got run out. There were many many fishermen there,
Speaker 1: and that ended up being a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1: These were obviously not Mormons. They didn't like Mormons. The
Speaker 1: Mormons who were there didn't like them. They got pushed around.
Speaker 1: The fishermen claimed they would get revenge. Some people say
Speaker 1: they did get their revenge one day. James Strang is
Speaker 1: a king. I know you're probably weirded out. You're thinking
Speaker 1: this is a little cultish here. I have to say
Speaker 1: again though he wasn't a bad king. He was not
Speaker 1: some tyrant. He had a bunch of wives, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was what he believed. He was not some tyrant
Speaker 1: who abused his people. He understood Beaver Island was a
Speaker 1: virtual gold mine for himself because it had trees. It's
Speaker 1: odd to think about, but there was a time when
Speaker 1: trees were oil what oil is today. They were how
Speaker 1: they fueled everything. Beaver Island had tons of trees. And
Speaker 1: when I say the man was capable in a good king,
Speaker 1: I don't just mean he chopped down some trees and
Speaker 1: sold them. Yeah, he chopped down trees and sold them.
Speaker 1: He also had a rigorous replanting program so they could
Speaker 1: replace any tree freeze they chopped down, keeping the economy going.
Speaker 1: In fact, they still to this day honor the man's
Speaker 1: environmental work. I'm not making this up. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if this was one big con or or he
Speaker 1: really believed that. He may have still been an atheist,
Speaker 1: he may have still been a Baptist. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't bad. He really wasn't a bad king. However,
Speaker 1: remember the country has a problem with Mormons in general.
Speaker 1: And as the country is making its way, as it's
Speaker 1: feeling its way, deciding who and what we are, remember
Speaker 1: we're in the eighteen thirties. Here eighteen forties. We're not
Speaker 1: that old as a nation. I mean, that is a
Speaker 1: baby as far as a nation goes. We're still making
Speaker 1: our way out west. Understandably, President ad inst Congress. They're
Speaker 1: a little bit apprehensive about what is, by all intents
Speaker 1: and purposes, a separate kingdom being set up on an island,
Speaker 1: and the island it was owned by the federal governments.
Speaker 1: It's not like he bought Beaver Island. He just kind
Speaker 1: of moved into Beaver Island and decided this is gonna
Speaker 1: be my place. Oh did I mention he was a pirate?
Speaker 1: They were pirates. They would steal people's stuff. There was
Speaker 1: a way of thinking that it's all about to end anyway.
Speaker 1: We're God's chosen people. You're not. These things are now
Speaker 1: my things. Now you can imagine how that would go.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine. What's the best way to put
Speaker 1: that into words today. Pick a town where you live,
Speaker 1: This would be the best way to do this. Pick
Speaker 1: a town where you live, small town in picture. What's
Speaker 1: the religion? People are apprehensive. Islam's a perfect one. An
Speaker 1: Islamic guy moves into that town in a bunch of
Speaker 1: his Islamic followers, A bunch of his Muslim followers move
Speaker 1: into that town and they run out some of the
Speaker 1: non Muslims who were in that town. Okay, now you're
Speaker 1: a little weirded out. Maybe it's a town. They'll call
Speaker 1: it twenty thousand people. They run out a bunch of
Speaker 1: the non Muslim followers. This Muslim guy who leads the
Speaker 1: people into that town is all of a sudden calling
Speaker 1: himself a Sultan's he's the sultan. That's a little weird.
Speaker 1: There's a new mosque going up on every corner, and
Speaker 1: on occasion a group of Muslims from this town will
Speaker 1: ride into York Town and steal a car and drive
Speaker 1: it back their way. It was obviously a bit of
Speaker 1: a problem for people. It would make you what you
Speaker 1: would be a little apprehensive about that. You would be
Speaker 1: looking around. Don't tell me you wouldn't be considering a
Speaker 1: call to the FBI. Hey, are you do you know
Speaker 1: what's going on here? You would? That's how Mormons were
Speaker 1: viewed back then, were you adding? It doesn't take much
Speaker 1: stealing to get people. Now they're really angry and scared,
Speaker 1: and don't think for a second there wasn't some lying
Speaker 1: going on about the stealing that was actually taking place
Speaker 1: because people would be prone to believe it. I lost
Speaker 1: my horse. I bet the Mormons stole it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: write the government, tell those some Mormons. Everyone will believe that.
Speaker 1: And the government gets it and they're like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can see those dirty Mormons doing that. Absolutely. The Navy
Speaker 1: comes in rain the place and arrests him. They arrest
Speaker 1: James Strang. This might be my favorite part. He gets
Speaker 1: put on trial. He's so brilliant. He gets acquitted and
Speaker 1: runs for the Michigan State Legislature as a Democrat and wins.
Speaker 1: Not only does he run and win, he is, even
Speaker 1: according to people who hated his guts, an extremely accomplished,
Speaker 1: effective member of the Michigan State Legislature. He wasn't some
Speaker 1: wing nut who came in. He comes in and does
Speaker 1: a bunch of really good stuff. He does so well
Speaker 1: he gets re elected. I love this guy. I love
Speaker 1: this guy. Not everybody loved this guy though. Eventually he
Speaker 1: finds him self on a dock one day. There's a
Speaker 1: United States Naval vessel on this dock as well. There
Speaker 1: are a Navy seamen all over this dock as well.
Speaker 1: Two people come up to James Strang, shoot him in
Speaker 1: the head, grazes his head, shoot him in the cheek ouch,
Speaker 1: and also shoot him in the spine, paralyzing him. The
Speaker 1: two people then take their pistols and beat the crap
Speaker 1: out of him after he's been shot three times. They
Speaker 1: then run onto one of these ships. Nobody stops them,
Speaker 1: Nobody warns Strang, stops the guys, or even attempts to
Speaker 1: arrest them. They carry James Strang away where he lives,
Speaker 1: I believe, for a few weeks before he finally dies.
Speaker 1: It is is widely believed that the President of the
Speaker 1: United States himself and or the Michigan state government had
Speaker 1: him killed. That is the story of either the greatest
Speaker 1: con man of all time, certainly a charismatic, capable leader.
Speaker 1: How do we even put this, Chris, I don't want
Speaker 1: to call it a cult. I'm not going to try
Speaker 1: to insult a bunch of Mormons on here, but but
Speaker 1: is it would would other Mormons consider that a cult?
Speaker 1: It was a different sect, very much a rival sect
Speaker 1: to the other Mormons. I don't know what you want
Speaker 1: to call it, but I do know this, and I
Speaker 1: understand this is part of my broken down, awful nature.
Speaker 1: I kind of respect the hustle. I kind of back
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Speaker 1: and at one point was traveling around and didn't want
Speaker 1: people to know he had multiple wives, so we dressed
Speaker 1: one of them up like a dude as his nephew.
Speaker 1: It's just an insane person. Hang on, I have thoughts
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Speaker 1: I know she's detest in every possible way. You don't
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Speaker 1: I get it. You're welcome to call eight seven seven
Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seven three eight seven seven
Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seven three anything bad you
Speaker 1: want to say about her. I will agree with you.
Speaker 1: I know, I get it. But it's it's almost like
Speaker 1: it's almost like a wide receiver in football who becomes
Speaker 1: a Pro bowler in the NFL, only he's really slow.
Speaker 1: He can't run fast. That's what it appears to a
Speaker 1: politician rising to that level of power, and you were
Speaker 1: almost universally hated as some old witch. It's amazing, it
Speaker 1: is amazing. I just you know what we need. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get him on tomorrow. I want we need John
Speaker 1: Phillips on our good buddy, who hosted John Phillips Show
Speaker 1: on KBC, that huge station out in La great station.
Speaker 1: By the way, John is more wired into California politics
Speaker 1: than anybody. I need the Nancy Pelosi's story from start
Speaker 1: to finish. I have to know how she pulled it off, Chris.
Speaker 1: I mean, and look, Chris, you can say to me, well,
Speaker 1: she's a Democrat in San Francisco, so she can't ever
Speaker 1: be beaten. Yes, that's the case. Now. However, at some
Speaker 1: point in her career she had opponents, at some point,
Speaker 1: I guarantee she had primary opponents. And don't tell me
Speaker 1: they were less likable than she is. Somehow she has
Speaker 1: pulled this off. Somehow she's pulled this off. I want
Speaker 1: to know how. And in case you're wondering, she's in
Speaker 1: the news headline Losie used shuddered San Francisco hair salon
Speaker 1: for blowout. Owner calls it a slap in the face.
Speaker 1: How speaker Nancy Pelosi visited a San Francisco hair salon
Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon for a wash and blowout, despite local
Speaker 1: ordinances keeping salons closed amid the coronavirus pandemic. Fox News
Speaker 1: has learned, and the security footage obtained by Fox News,
Speaker 1: By the way, I'd love to know how they got
Speaker 1: a hold of that security footage. Who's the rat who
Speaker 1: got the security footage and sent it in? It had
Speaker 1: to be the owner had to be the owner anyway,
Speaker 1: And security footage obtained by Fox News and Time stamped
Speaker 1: Monday at three o eight pm Pacific time. The California
Speaker 1: Powerhouse is seen walking through E Salon and San Francisco
Speaker 1: with wet hair and without a mask over her mouth
Speaker 1: or nose. The stylist doing her hair can be seen
Speaker 1: following her in a black face mask. Salon since San
Speaker 1: Francisco have been closed since March, and we're only notified
Speaker 1: they could reopen on September first for outdoor hairstyling services only. Quote.
Speaker 1: I'm sharing this because of what everyone in my industry
Speaker 1: and in my city is going through right now. End quote.
Speaker 1: Salon owner Erica Kios said. Kios in a phone interview
Speaker 1: with Fox News on Tuesday, share details of Pelosi's visit.
Speaker 1: Kios explained she has an independence. She has independent stylists
Speaker 1: working for her who rent chairs. One of my stylists
Speaker 1: who rents a chair from me, contacted me on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: M here's what it really tells you. Yes, Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: is the ultimate socialists. Laws are for you, They're not
Speaker 1: for them. Laws are for the littles. Yes, that's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. But you've seen these stories over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. Remember she's not the first one.
Speaker 1: Remember Chicago's Mayor Lorie Lightfoot. You don't remember that, Hang
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Speaker 1: Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot recently got caught at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the coronavirus stuff when she locked everything down, got
Speaker 1: her haircut. What is it with these women and getting
Speaker 1: her haircut. Philadelphia's mayor recently got caught dying indoors after
Speaker 1: banning dining indoors. Their story after story after story of
Speaker 1: this happening. What does it tell you that this keeps happening?
Speaker 1: It should tell you something very very specific. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you a second to think about it. Nancy Pelosi says,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't do that, but then
Speaker 1: she turns around and does it. Lori Lightfoot says you
Speaker 1: can't do this, but then she turns around and does it.
Speaker 1: Mayra Philly Kenny says, you can't do this, but then
Speaker 1: he turns around and does it. All of it is
Speaker 1: about coronavirus. What does it tell you about them? What
Speaker 1: does it tell you about what they believe? Hang? Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly returns next. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. You
Speaker 1: know what all these politicians violating their own coronavirus restrictions
Speaker 1: should really tell you. Coronavirus isn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to say that, but how
Speaker 1: else am I supposed to take it? New York Governor Cuomo,
Speaker 1: wear your mask, stay inside, do your patriotic duty. Wear
Speaker 1: your mask. You gotta wear a mask. Gets photographed at
Speaker 1: a political event, shaking hands, kissing babies with no mask.
Speaker 1: Laura Lightfoot, you cannot go to a salon, don't you dare?
Speaker 1: This is how things spreading into the salon? She go
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. I have endless video and audio of Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi scolding Trump, scolding America. You have to do this.
Speaker 1: People will die, and Nancy Pelosi trapeses around a salon
Speaker 1: with no mask on at all. These people do not
Speaker 1: take corona virus seriously at all. They take it as
Speaker 1: seriously as you should take it. It's a virus with
Speaker 1: ninety nine plus survivability, and they intentionally wrecked America's economy
Speaker 1: for it. They don't care about coronavirus. They don't care
Speaker 1: at all about coronavirus. They're not even slightly concerned about coronavirus.
Speaker 1: What do I always say, don't tell me what you believe,
Speaker 1: Show me what you believe. They don't care. You've even
Speaker 1: got doctor Fauci masked out of a baseball game. Were
Speaker 1: your mask? We're a shield. We're all gonna die. Don't
Speaker 1: open up the economy up. This thing's tough to breathe.
Speaker 1: I think I'll take it down. We have behind the
Speaker 1: scenes video of all these reporters lecturing Trump about masks.
Speaker 1: Wear your mask, where your mask, press conference ends, reporter
Speaker 1: stands up, mask comes off. They're not really worried about coronavirus,
Speaker 1: and normally that wouldn't bother me, except they've ruined lives
Speaker 1: with that lie. I don't mind some hypocrisy from my
Speaker 1: politicians because one, they're politicians, it's what they do. Two,
Speaker 1: we're all hypocrites on some level. It's part of our nature.
Speaker 1: So you can do your hypocrisy. It's fine. Whatever. Don't
Speaker 1: wipe out small businesses across the country while you do it.
Speaker 1: Don't destroy the hospitality industry while you do it. Don't
Speaker 1: crush fifty million jobs. Don't add trillions with a T
Speaker 1: to the deficit while you do it. Now, you've gone
Speaker 1: too far. They continuously get caught violating their coronavirus restrictions
Speaker 1: because they don't take coronavirus seriously at all. They're not
Speaker 1: worried about it, period. That's a fact. If Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna die getting her hair cut without
Speaker 1: a face mask on, she'd have a face mask on.
Speaker 1: That's just a fact now. Chris Headline woman wins copyright
Speaker 1: case against adult film studio who recorded videos in her house.
Speaker 1: In Bassett versus Jensen, Miss Bassett, the owner of the properties,
Speaker 1: signed an agreement with the renter to lease her Martha's
Speaker 1: Vineyard property Goalie for seven months for the sole purpose
Speaker 1: of mister Spafford and for the sole use of mister
Speaker 1: Spafford and his family. Spafford had moved to Martha's Vineyard
Speaker 1: to work as a photographer and cameraman for an adult
Speaker 1: film director. Throughout the lease, Miss Bassett claims that twenty
Speaker 1: one different videos were filmed at her property. Following the
Speaker 1: end of the lease, Miss Bassett had to stop writing
Speaker 1: out the property as there was significant damage caused to
Speaker 1: the building and later due to publicity that the property
Speaker 1: was used in filming the videos. I do not want
Speaker 1: to know what the damage was to the building. Miss
Speaker 1: Bassett then argued that not only did the video showcase
Speaker 1: her property, but they had fringed her copyright on numerous
Speaker 1: of her self made artworks which were hanging in her property.
Speaker 1: How much would that sick? You take all this time
Speaker 1: and you do all this artwork and then wow, there
Speaker 1: it is in the background. Now it's uncomfortable mob. Being
Speaker 1: an artist, Miss Bassett had designed a large number of
Speaker 1: artworks on her property, as well as adding artistic elements
Speaker 1: to the functional features of the property and such as
Speaker 1: the fireplace and whatnot. The defendants in this case argued
Speaker 1: that the copyright in the artworks did not exist. So
Speaker 1: on and so on and so on. Here's the ultimate question, Chris,
Speaker 1: how did she find out? How did she find out?
Speaker 1: They didn't go volunteer? You're that information to her? I'm
Speaker 1: sure who saw it? Who saw what? Did somebody watching
Speaker 1: one of these videos catch Grandma's artwork in the background
Speaker 1: and say? Whoa? And if you were to discover it
Speaker 1: that way not exactly a proud moment. How does one
Speaker 1: go about fessing up that information? So I was flipping
Speaker 1: through the channels last night, had no idea what this
Speaker 1: was about, and there was your artwork. Oh, you'd have
Speaker 1: to say, Chris, you'd have to sell, right, I mean
Speaker 1: you'd have to. You could never live in that home again.
Speaker 1: I could never live in that home again. You could
Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe I'm being hypocritical because I sleep in
Speaker 1: hotel rooms well, now I'm weirded out. Now I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about the hotel rooms, Chris. But think about that. We
Speaker 1: all sleep in hotel rooms, we all we all know
Speaker 1: some of the things that go on in hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: Not to be too vulgar about it. Well, now I'm
Speaker 1: grossed out, Chris. Now I'm gross Now I'm grossed to
Speaker 1: myself out. I think i'd have to sell, man. I
Speaker 1: think i'd have to sell I think, don't tell me.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be looking at that coffee table a little
Speaker 1: differently than you did before. I'm definitely not eating that
Speaker 1: popcorn up off the floor. You know you're not. You
Speaker 1: know it takes it takes something away from it. It
Speaker 1: takes something away from it. I hate living with other
Speaker 1: people when they're not filming things like this. I made
Speaker 1: it a vow when I got out of the Marine
Speaker 1: Corps that I would not live with another human being
Speaker 1: until the day I got married, and I kept my vow.
Speaker 1: I got out of the Marine Corps. I stayed one
Speaker 1: night with my parents before I moved into my apartment,
Speaker 1: and the only reason I didn't drive right to my
Speaker 1: apartment is it wasn't ready until the next day. One
Speaker 1: night moved out, peace gone. No roommates ever, I was
Speaker 1: willing to live in the absolute ghetto over having a roommate.
Speaker 1: That's the worst thing in the world. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like cleaning up other people's mess stepping in
Speaker 1: other people's messes. I don't like. As you well know,
Speaker 1: I do not like public restrooms. I'm not one of
Speaker 1: these germophobe freaks. I use public restrooms all the time,
Speaker 1: just like you do here at the office, out in public,
Speaker 1: whenever the need arises. I, however, do not enjoy the
Speaker 1: experience at all at all. It's not a germophobe thing.
Speaker 1: It's I see how you treat restrooms thing, and I
Speaker 1: see you not washing your hands. How were you not
Speaker 1: washing your hands? And then you're grabbing the doorknob. Now
Speaker 1: I'm totally gross. That we gotta change the subject, Chris
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Speaker 1: This could very well be my most offensive show to date, Chris.
Speaker 1: So far, We've undoubtedly offended some Mormons. I've defended Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi as respecting the hustle. We talked about this poor
Speaker 1: lady who had some mature films filmed at her home.
Speaker 1: Chris asked if I would stay in a house, if
Speaker 1: I would live in a house where somebody was murdered,
Speaker 1: and I would without hesitation a couple of different reasons.
Speaker 1: I don't consider blood as gross as the other things
Speaker 1: that you have to clean up. At the other studio,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about you just clean that stuff
Speaker 1: up and move on. That's one two. I have this strong,
Speaker 1: strong desire to see a ghost. I want to be haunted,
Speaker 1: and I so far have come up completely empty on
Speaker 1: that front, on every turn. I now, I do not
Speaker 1: believe in ghosts. If you believe in ghosts, I want
Speaker 1: your ghost story eight seven seven three seven seven four
Speaker 1: three seven three, or you can email me Jesse at
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show dot com. I just I'm dying for one, Chris.
Speaker 1: I go to haunted houses because my kid loves it.
Speaker 1: My wife loves that stuff, my kid, my oldest son
Speaker 1: loves that stuff. So I go every chance I get.
Speaker 1: And I'm the guy wanting to see one. But I
Speaker 1: can tell I know my cynicism is probably what's really
Speaker 1: preventing me, because you can always tell there's a couple
Speaker 1: of wing nuts in there who are sure they're going
Speaker 1: to see something, and of course they always do. Oh
Speaker 1: didn't you hear that? No? I didn't you probably farted. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything. I didn't hear anything. Did you
Speaker 1: just feel it get colder? Yeah, we walked under the
Speaker 1: air conditioning vents. It's not a ghost, but I want
Speaker 1: to see one. I think I would try to talk
Speaker 1: to it. Would you try to talk to it. I would.
Speaker 1: You don't believe it's real either. See, this is the
Speaker 1: problem because we're now our cynicism combines and we're never
Speaker 1: gonna see one. Now, we're never gonna get haunted at
Speaker 1: the studio. Thank it. I want to be haunted. I
Speaker 1: just want to see one one time. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to see one one time, and I want
Speaker 1: to believe it. I'm never gonna believe it. So and
Speaker 1: now that we've offended everybody today, let's ask the ultimate question.
Speaker 1: Headline is this. This is from American Military News. Guantanamo
Speaker 1: detainee not entitled to due process claims, not entitled to
Speaker 1: due process claims Appeals Court rules. What should be done
Speaker 1: with professed terrorists who say they're going to go back
Speaker 1: to terrorism, and we know from the ones we've released
Speaker 1: they do pretty much one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 1: They go right back to killing innocent people men, women,
Speaker 1: and children as often as possible. What is the right
Speaker 1: thing for a society to do with these people? Keep
Speaker 1: them locked up forever, turn them loose and let the
Speaker 1: chips fall where they may. Throw them out of a
Speaker 1: helicopter in the middle of the ocean. That is that
Speaker 1: will be a popular answer. They should all just be executed.
Speaker 1: And actually, I'm not saying you're wrong. Put them on
Speaker 1: a trial, give them a war crimes trial. To execute them.
Speaker 1: You do want a trial, you have to have at
Speaker 1: least the appearance of propriety here. But is that the
Speaker 1: right thing to do? I asked this question all the
Speaker 1: time because we still have and this blows me away.
Speaker 1: You've heard me ransom about this before. We still have
Speaker 1: thousands of ISIS prisoners. Why are their ISIS prisoners? Why
Speaker 1: are there any ISIS prisoners? This is the problem with
Speaker 1: the civilized Western society. Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be in a civilized Judeo Christian Western society. So
Speaker 1: should you. You should be very very thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1: Just no, we are blessed, very blessed. But is Western
Speaker 1: society too gentle to be honest about the real solutions
Speaker 1: for problems? And I am not one of these guys.
Speaker 1: This is going to come as a shock to you.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys that treats prisons as
Speaker 1: the harshest environment in the world. I don't think you
Speaker 1: should be shackled in a dungeon for any crime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a big rehabilitation guy. Get back on
Speaker 1: your feet guy. I believe in second chance. It's his
Speaker 1: third chances. Unless you're a child less than I think
Speaker 1: you should be killed on the spot. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, I'm a big rehab get somebody back on
Speaker 1: their feet person. I look, nobody in this world has
Speaker 1: made more mistakes and done more crappy things than I have.
Speaker 1: So I'm all about that rehab life. But for terrorists,
Speaker 1: for terrorists who are still one hundred percent committed, can't
Speaker 1: be rehabbed. What are we doing? Why are we still
Speaker 1: dealing with guantanamobey? Why is this a thing? Why are
Speaker 1: these guys still here? Is there a plan? There doesn't
Speaker 1: appear to be a plan. To me. It appears we
Speaker 1: are just going to kick this can down the road
Speaker 1: until the next Democrat gets elected and does what Barack
Speaker 1: Obama did and set some of them loose where they
Speaker 1: promptly go back to killing people. You know Obama did that, right.
Speaker 1: So if the solution is, as I know you're probably
Speaker 1: saying to yourself right now, if the solution is kill them,
Speaker 1: put them on trial, execute them. If that's the solution. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Are you prepared for that? It's easy to
Speaker 1: say you're prepared for that. Are you prepared for the
Speaker 1: world to come down on us for that? Are you
Speaker 1: prepared for how you want them executed? And how do
Speaker 1: you want them executed? Do you want them swinging from
Speaker 1: the gallows? Chris made some joke about AMMO being dirt cheap.
Speaker 1: There's no way we'd get away with that. Once you
Speaker 1: start adding in blood, the gore portion of it, it
Speaker 1: would it would set off an outrage. That is this
Speaker 1: is a visual process. Are you going to videotape them?
Speaker 1: Picture them swinging from that rope? Are they all going
Speaker 1: for lethal injection? Are you prepared for what comes? If
Speaker 1: you have a line of twenty terrorists standing outside the
Speaker 1: lethal injection chamber, are you ready for it? Remember, it's
Speaker 1: easy to say these things. It's another thing, entirely to
Speaker 1: actually watch them, to watch what happens. Remember that Pinochet
Speaker 1: episode we did about the revolution in Chile and the
Speaker 1: Caravan of Death and Pinochet sending guys to the communist
Speaker 1: camps where he has the communist prisoners after he threw
Speaker 1: him out of office, And you're like, yeah, kill those
Speaker 1: dirty commies? You okay with torture? There was a lot
Speaker 1: of it. Putting cigarettes out on people, smashed up some
Speaker 1: folk singer's hands and made him play guitar, then sent
Speaker 1: people over to the helicopters where they took off, and
Speaker 1: by the time the helicopter landed, those communists were no
Speaker 1: longer on the helo. Sounds nice? Are you ready for it?
Speaker 1: I asked the question because I genuinely don't know. I
Speaker 1: think I'd be fine when it comes to terrorists. I
Speaker 1: think I'd be totally fine. Are you fine? And if
Speaker 1: you are, and I am, do you think society is
Speaker 1: And if society isn't, then are we going to be
Speaker 1: able to keep Western civilization hang? Your home title is
Speaker 1: possibly probably your biggest financial vulnerability. What would it mean
Speaker 1: to you to lose your home? Let's not hyperbole, that's happening.
Speaker 1: People are having their home titles stolen. They're getting loans
Speaker 1: taken out against their home title. Loans they have to
Speaker 1: pay back. And if you don't pay it back or
Speaker 1: ignore those past due notices, which you would do because
Speaker 1: you didn't take out a loan, you get evicted from
Speaker 1: your home. What does that conversation. Look like if you
Speaker 1: walk into your home tonight and talk to your wife
Speaker 1: and tell her, honey, I just found out we're being
Speaker 1: evicted tomorrow. What does the look on your kids faces
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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Washington editor for Spectator USA, Amber Athy.
Speaker 1: Apparently her cell phone just cut out here. We will
Speaker 1: get back to her in a moment. I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask her about the murder house. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. Apparently a lot of people
Speaker 1: have an issue with this, a big issue with this.
Speaker 1: I'm not making light of murder. I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's that big of a deal for a home. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, I'm saying I would be fine with it.
Speaker 1: I mean I would need a clean up crew, Chris.
Speaker 1: You know they have special units to come clean up
Speaker 1: after crime scenes and such. What a job that would be,
Speaker 1: What a job that would be. Imagine walking into crime
Speaker 1: scenes repeatedly to clean them up. That's the scot Well,
Speaker 1: let's going on with them? Are the phones down? We
Speaker 1: have down phones or something. This is a disaster. This
Speaker 1: show's just going right off the rails. We're going to
Speaker 1: see if she wants to throw if she wants to
Speaker 1: throw terrorists out of helicopters, and see what she feels
Speaker 1: about living in a murder house. University of Michigan to
Speaker 1: stop you using police to enforce enforce coronavirus regulations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably a good idea. Nick Saban leads dozens of
Speaker 1: Alabama athletes in Black Lives Matter March. Saban was at
Speaker 1: the front of a large crowd of players who walked
Speaker 1: from Malmore Athletic Facility to Foster Auditorium schoolhouse door. Let
Speaker 1: me let me say something here. I understand why Nick
Speaker 1: Saban would do something like this. This is all about recruiting.
Speaker 1: It's all about doing that thing to get the next
Speaker 1: running back, to get the next quarterback, get the next cornerback,
Speaker 1: all these I get why these football coaches are doing this,
Speaker 1: but I think it's disgusting. I think it's disgusting because
Speaker 1: if every freebody just goes along with this whole thing
Speaker 1: in their own self interest, then we are screwed. What
Speaker 1: if leaders started leading. What if somebody with the platform
Speaker 1: and power of Nick Saban stood up and said, Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter is a leftist, Marxist street gang, a violent
Speaker 1: domestic terrorist group, and I do not support that group
Speaker 1: at all. What if Nick Saban said that? Would it
Speaker 1: hurt recruiting, probably probably have a couple of players sit
Speaker 1: out this year, But it would also inspire actual change.
Speaker 1: It would also inspire others to step up and do
Speaker 1: the hard things. I'm so tired of people stepping up
Speaker 1: in saying the easy, popular thing because well, he's got
Speaker 1: to coach the team. Pete Carroll said the same thing yesterday,
Speaker 1: basically the same thing. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: white people need to know. He comes out and says,
Speaker 1: we basically haven't gotten over gotten past slavery. What what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You coach a room full of
Speaker 1: black millionaires who fly on private jets and drink champagne
Speaker 1: and date bikini models. They sign autographs, they're photographed everywhere
Speaker 1: they go. Why do people feel the need to pretend
Speaker 1: as if this ridiculous movement has validity. It's just like slavery.
Speaker 1: That's the stupidest thing I've I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1: And I don't care if you're all saying it. You're
Speaker 1: all stupid. That's not true, that's ridiculous. Why do we
Speaker 1: feel the need to do this? Why are people such
Speaker 1: gutless cowards? I need someone to explain it to me.
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about yourself as a man
Speaker 1: when you stand up defend what you know to be wrong?
Speaker 1: How do you feel when you go home at night
Speaker 1: and look in the mirror. Don't tell me Nick Saban
Speaker 1: believes in black lives matter. That's stupid. That's an idiotic
Speaker 1: thing to even think he would consider that. So you
Speaker 1: stand up for what you know to be wrong. What
Speaker 1: does that feel like at night, when you're brushing your
Speaker 1: teeth before bed and staring at yourself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: To know that you're responsible, at least partially for our
Speaker 1: culture descending into madness. I'll never understand why people do it,
Speaker 1: how people do it. The Drew Brees situation. Who I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I ran Drew Brees off of social media.
Speaker 1: The Drew Brees situation may have been. It may be
Speaker 1: the saddest one I've ever seen. Drew Brees had an
Speaker 1: outstanding reputation in his community as being a hardworking family
Speaker 1: man who constantly gave back. All these Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: riots break out and Drew Brees immediately comes out, puts
Speaker 1: out a video on Instagram talking about why he stands
Speaker 1: for the flag, and it wasn't just an American raw
Speaker 1: roth thing. It was both my grandfather's fought in World
Speaker 1: War Two. I mean it was inspiring. They inspire me.
Speaker 1: I stand for the flag. Within twenty four hours, he's
Speaker 1: issuing multiple public apologies for talking about the flag his
Speaker 1: grandfather's fought for. You know where Drew Brees is now.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is now wearing the name of Jacob Blake,
Speaker 1: that black guy in Kenosha who got shot by police.
Speaker 1: He's wearing the name of Jacob Blake on his helmet.
Speaker 1: Jacob Blake, who raped a teenage girl, was being arrested
Speaker 1: on a felony sexual assault warrant. That's where leftism has
Speaker 1: taken Drew Brees from a hardworking pillar of his community
Speaker 1: to somebody who proudly staples the name of a rapist
Speaker 1: on his helmets. That's what cowardice can do to you.
Speaker 1: That's what weakness can and will do to you. It
Speaker 1: turns you into a pathetic shell of yourself. And the
Speaker 1: worst part of it is because I believe he's probably
Speaker 1: a really good dude at heart. The worst part of
Speaker 1: it is I bet he knows it, and he's too
Speaker 1: weak to stop it. He's too weak to turn it around,
Speaker 1: so he'll try to ignore it. He'll go along and
Speaker 1: go along, and he'll lose all that public support he'd
Speaker 1: built up. He'll look at the comments on his social
Speaker 1: media pages. Now it's all the people on the right saying,
Speaker 1: what happened to you? You disgust me, what happened to you?
Speaker 1: You know he's reading that, You know he knows. All
Speaker 1: it takes is a couple guys to step up and
Speaker 1: do the hard thing. Step up in your locker room,
Speaker 1: step up and do the right thing. Others will follow.
Speaker 1: But what's happened is we've scared everybody in this culture
Speaker 1: into feeling like they have to say this or have
Speaker 1: to say that. I don't understand it, man, I don't
Speaker 1: understand it at all. I think it's sad and shame
Speaker 1: on Nick Saban, Shame on Pete Carroll, shame on Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: shame on all of them. All right, we are going
Speaker 1: to try to get Amber back here in a second.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the phones. Hang on.
Speaker 1: I love the American flag, and I love when I
Speaker 1: see it flying. I love and I see it flying
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. I love and I see it flying
Speaker 1: over a sports stadium. I love crossing my heart for
Speaker 1: the national anthem. There is something to be said for
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Speaker 1: Washington editor of Spectator USA Amber Athey, ever, could you
Speaker 1: live in a house where somebody was murdered? Well, actually
Speaker 1: there was someone who was murdered in the apartment building
Speaker 1: I live in back in February, and they still have
Speaker 1: not closed the case. So I'm a little started to
Speaker 1: get a little bit concerned because we have security cameras
Speaker 1: all through the place. There were apparently three people there
Speaker 1: when the guy was murdered, and yet the police have
Speaker 1: not indicated that they have arrested a suspect. Oh that's
Speaker 1: way creepy. Okay, all right, what if you saw a
Speaker 1: ghost there? Would you like that? Would you move out?
Speaker 1: Are you a ghost person? Have you ever seen a ghost?
Speaker 1: Do you believe in ghosts? So I'm a ghost person
Speaker 1: in so far that I'm very Catholic, and I think
Speaker 1: ghosts are just demons. Okay, See that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: I believe in angels and demons. Obviously it's right there
Speaker 1: in the Bible. I don't know how I feel about ghosts.
Speaker 1: I want to believe in ghosts. I go to haunted
Speaker 1: houses I've never seen squat and the people I'm with
Speaker 1: always claim they see something. Well, that's part of the game,
Speaker 1: right is a lot of people just make up seeing stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, as someone who's had sleep paralysis before,
Speaker 1: I think that is something supernatural for sure. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's just you know, weird visions or something that
Speaker 1: can be explained medically. I have heard that sleep paralysis
Speaker 1: is pretty much the scariest thing that can happen to you,
Speaker 1: all right. More seriously, Guantanamobey, the headline came up today
Speaker 1: about a Guantanamo Taney. Whatever, due process, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what should be done with the avowed terrorists at Guantanamobe.
Speaker 1: The ultimate questions should they be released, held for life?
Speaker 1: Should we be chucking them out of helicopters? What should
Speaker 1: a Western society do to these people? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good question. I mean, I'm definitely air on the side
Speaker 1: of I don't know, maybe not releasing them so they
Speaker 1: can get there again, you know, just just a normal opinion.
Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of how long do you
Speaker 1: keep them there, are you supposed to bring them to
Speaker 1: the US and put them on trial. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to really say. I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: in terms of due process, people who are trying to
Speaker 1: commit here against our country probably deserve a little bit
Speaker 1: less of it. I know that's a hypocritical position, but
Speaker 1: it's just inherently how I feel. I hear you see,
Speaker 1: I was okay with the helicopter solution. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are. I knew that was why you
Speaker 1: brought that up. It just gets ugli or what it what?
Speaker 1: It gets uglier? All right, Nancy Pelosi. I have actually
Speaker 1: been defending her this morning, not what she did. I
Speaker 1: think it's impressive that a woman as unlikable and loathsome
Speaker 1: as she is has risen to that high of a
Speaker 1: position of power in the United States of America. I
Speaker 1: think that that is quite a hustle she has going.
Speaker 1: I have no idea how she pulled it off, but
Speaker 1: I respect it. No, it's a great point. I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that she has reached the level of celebrity
Speaker 1: where she can get a salon that's closed down to
Speaker 1: open specifically for her and break all of the coronavirus restrictions.
Speaker 1: I will admit it's pretty impressive, and I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit jealous of it because I had to wait, you know,
Speaker 1: three four months before I could get my hair cut
Speaker 1: during quarantine, and I still have to wear a mask
Speaker 1: while I do it, And so you have the hairdresser
Speaker 1: constantly tugging on your mask on accident, and you're I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting for someone to make a mistake and like
Speaker 1: accidentally cut off his huge chunk of hair because this
Speaker 1: dam mask is in the way. Amber. What is a blowout?
Speaker 1: Everybody keeps talking about blowouts and women get blowouts? What
Speaker 1: is a blowout? All? Right? So when you get your
Speaker 1: hair blow dried, right, Yeah, if you take a big
Speaker 1: round brush and you use it to sort of brush
Speaker 1: out the hair as you're as you're blow drying it,
Speaker 1: what happens is you get a lot of volume. It
Speaker 1: gets really shiny and bouncy. It's that beautiful hair you
Speaker 1: see on the Guarnier Flutisse commercials. Wait, so it's just
Speaker 1: brushing your hair while blow drying it. It's an art, Jessie,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. Where where do you even
Speaker 1: learn this stuff? Is this stuff women learn early on?
Speaker 1: It seems like it's so complicated to be a woman. Well,
Speaker 1: luckily now we have all of these YouTube channels that
Speaker 1: teach us how to do makeup and hair. So if
Speaker 1: your mom didn't know how to do it and didn't
Speaker 1: teach you, then you can find it all online. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot simpler now. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: now online with social media. There are so many new
Speaker 1: techniques that it feels a little bit overwhelming. I feel
Speaker 1: like we see way too much of Joe Biden. She's
Speaker 1: doing interviews constantly as if she's running for president of
Speaker 1: the United States. I think it only magnifies Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: absence from the campaign trail. But then again, I'm a
Speaker 1: misogynistic jerk. Am I wrong? Is she good for him?
Speaker 1: It kind of makes me feel like she should be
Speaker 1: the candidate instead of him, because it's so much better
Speaker 1: at it. Although I will say I believe it was
Speaker 1: yesterday she was going around to elementary schools and celebrating
Speaker 1: the start of the school year, and all I could
Speaker 1: think about was if Joe Biden and Kamal Harris had
Speaker 1: it their way, I don't think any of these kids
Speaker 1: would be back in school, and they certainly would be
Speaker 1: having to wear masks everywhere because they want this national
Speaker 1: mask mandate. Yet and all these photos the kids were
Speaker 1: sitting on the lawn just enjoying nature without a mask on,
Speaker 1: and I think that's considered pretty evil by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore. Are we gonna have an
Speaker 1: official end to the masks stuff? Or is it just
Speaker 1: slowly going to fade away as people break the rules,
Speaker 1: lift the restrictions, and it's just going to slowly fade
Speaker 1: away after millions of jobs lost, businesses, lives wiped out. Oh,
Speaker 1: it'll end after the election, as soon as it can
Speaker 1: no longer be used as a political cudgel. But I've
Speaker 1: noticed more and more normal Americans and even abnormal Americans,
Speaker 1: which I think is what the people who live in Arlington,
Speaker 1: Virginia are, are starting to get sick of everything. In Arlington.
Speaker 1: There is still an outdoor mask mandate, and I would
Speaker 1: say maybe thirty twenty thirty percent of people I see
Speaker 1: outside are wearing the mask, and I don't get the
Speaker 1: dirty looks that I used to a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: because of course, what kind of idiot works and mask outside?
Speaker 1: So you know, even the liberal sort of elite us
Speaker 1: out here in DC are starting to give up on
Speaker 1: all of this, which is a good sign in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Amber Ath Spectator appreciate you very much. Thanks Stesey. We
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Speaker 1: Safety Administration and the AD Council. Chris, I'm struggling with
Speaker 1: being salty about them destroying sports. I want to act
Speaker 1: like it doesn't bother me. I don't want to act
Speaker 1: like it's getting to me. But it is getting to me, man,
Speaker 1: it is seriously getting to me. And this is I
Speaker 1: like football season. My heart's not breaking for baseball, but
Speaker 1: I like football season. I want sports, and they're going
Speaker 1: to ruin it. And don't don't don't comfort yourself with
Speaker 1: we're gonna have We're gonna have college football. No you won't.
Speaker 1: They're gonna ruin that too. They're gonna have their Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter shirts on, They're gonna kneel for the national anthem.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take all your excitement and put it in
Speaker 1: a blender and hit frope. You wait and see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gun left us ruin everything. Hang them the Jesse Kelly Chew.
Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. I was looking for
Speaker 1: someone who could summarize my thoughts on coronavirus. I was
Speaker 1: looking for somebody who could summarize it perfectly and say
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm thinking when it comes to sports, Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter. Basically, I was looking for the perfect political commentator,
Speaker 1: and I think I found him. And if I sound salty,
Speaker 1: it's because I am. And I'm salty about football. I'm
Speaker 1: a little upset about baseball. I enjoyed watching baseball games.
Speaker 1: I don't really care about the NBA, but I would
Speaker 1: tune in amazing athletes, honestly the best athletes in the
Speaker 1: world in my opinion, tune in especially for the finals.
Speaker 1: Maybe watched little drama. Well I'm not watching any of
Speaker 1: that now either, But at least, after all the garbage
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, at least you and I had football
Speaker 1: season right raw, No they're they're gonna take that too.
Speaker 1: As we're speaking about all that's going on, and this
Speaker 1: is about racism in America that white people don't know,
Speaker 1: they don't know enough, and they need to be coached up,
Speaker 1: and they need to be educated about what the heck
Speaker 1: is going on in this world. They can't that. Black
Speaker 1: people can't scream anymore, they can't march anymore, they can't
Speaker 1: bear their souls anymore to what they've been, what they've
Speaker 1: lived with for hundreds of years. Because white guys came
Speaker 1: over from Europe and started a new county, don't you,
Speaker 1: with a great idea and a great ideals, and wrote
Speaker 1: down great, great great writings and laws and all of
Speaker 1: that about democracy and freedom and equality for all. And
Speaker 1: then it ain't happened. That's not what happened, because we
Speaker 1: went down this other road here, we followed the economics
Speaker 1: and which white guys making money, and they put together
Speaker 1: a system of slavery, and we've never left it. Really,
Speaker 1: it's never gone away. That is the dumbest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what he was rambling about half the time. But let's
Speaker 1: just address a couple of things here. They've been going
Speaker 1: through this for hundreds of years. Nobody's three hundred years old,
Speaker 1: two hundred years old, one hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 1: This thing I see people do, and this isn't reserve
Speaker 1: for any religion or skin color. If they try to
Speaker 1: claim the successes of somebody in the past, or they
Speaker 1: try to claim the failures the victimhood of somebody else
Speaker 1: in the past. That might fly with your mommy, that
Speaker 1: might fly on TV. That might fly with that idiot,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. That doesn't fly with me. You're not a
Speaker 1: victim in this country, especially when you're Pete Carroll. You
Speaker 1: are a millionaire and your job is to show up
Speaker 1: every single day and you're staring at a room of
Speaker 1: probably seventy percent black dudes, all millionaires. Please don't tell
Speaker 1: me we've never left slavery, you know who. That's disrespectful
Speaker 1: to the poor people who actually went through slavery. Has
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll never seen documentaries on slavery, I ever read
Speaker 1: books on it, ever seen pictures of what happened to
Speaker 1: those poor freaking people, beaten, raped, killed, treated like cattle.
Speaker 1: Slavery is a disgusting, repugnant institution, and to compare what
Speaker 1: we have now with that is not only idiotic, it's
Speaker 1: completely disrespectful to the people who went through it. Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Chris, that's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 1: What that's That is my show, That's my TV shows.
Speaker 1: It's on the channel the first. You can get the
Speaker 1: first on Apple TV, Roku, Pluto TV. It's an app.
Speaker 1: You can get it on your phone or iPad or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm on every single night nine pm Eastern Time, Chris,
Speaker 1: eight pm Central Central Time. I can't decide if Central
Speaker 1: time is the superior time or Mountain time. Definitely not
Speaker 1: Eastern Time. Definitely not Pacific time. Eastern time football games
Speaker 1: the we'll start at nine o'clock. At nine o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: you can't watch it if you have to work the
Speaker 1: next day. Who stays up till midnight on a work night.
Speaker 1: Whereas specific time, I don't even know the difference. The
Speaker 1: games start at noon or something. It's terrible. Central time
Speaker 1: and Mountain Time really have something going on. Headline Dallas
Speaker 1: Stars CEO, We're losing customers for supporting Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: What a shock This is from Daily Wire Brad Alberts
Speaker 1: he's the owners stated quote, but we slash I stand
Speaker 1: by or our organization's commitment and support our players one
Speaker 1: to express their views on Thursday afternoon. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: So Stars interim coach Rick bowanis added quote, We're against
Speaker 1: all social injustice and racial discriminat a discrimination that's going
Speaker 1: on around the world. If our players think that it's
Speaker 1: the best way they can sport them, then they have
Speaker 1: our full support and we're proud to do it. Essentially,
Speaker 1: they've had season ticket holders canceling tickets in droves. Sports
Speaker 1: teams around the country are seeing this. NASCAR's ratings are
Speaker 1: they still in the toilet, Chris, they were in the toilet.
Speaker 1: NBA ratings down massively, NFL season ticket holders selling. What
Speaker 1: we're going to see is a great market correction. Here's
Speaker 1: here's who you're gonna witness right now. All these idiot
Speaker 1: players jump on the Black Lives Matter bandwagon, right crap
Speaker 1: on the flag. America's racist. America sucks. The coaches, general managers,
Speaker 1: owners of these teams, because they're all a bunch of
Speaker 1: nutlass cowards, they all feel the need to come out.
Speaker 1: I support our players. I absolutely Black lives matter of course,
Speaker 1: of course, stop racism, all that stuff. They're going along
Speaker 1: now and going along now, and going along now. But
Speaker 1: things have a way of working out in the end.
Speaker 1: And this is what I mean. All these leagues have
Speaker 1: players unions. Unions have agreements with the leagues. It's always
Speaker 1: a big public argument negotiation whenever the agreement runs out
Speaker 1: and they have to redo the agreement. When it comes
Speaker 1: time to redo that NFL players union agreement with the
Speaker 1: NFL league, that's when it's going to come back to
Speaker 1: bite the players, and it's going to come back to
Speaker 1: bite them hard because lower ratings means lower advertiser revenue.
Speaker 1: Because I am company X, I will pay you a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to put my ad on television. Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't I Your ratings are through the roof. Oh you'reeings
Speaker 1: are down twenty five percent, Well okay, now I'll pay
Speaker 1: you seventy five thousand dollars. You see how all that works.
Speaker 1: And the players are going to be standing there when
Speaker 1: it comes time to make the next big negotiation and say,
Speaker 1: how can they give us less than we were given before?
Speaker 1: And the owners are going to say, you see this here,
Speaker 1: this is what we call the bottom line. This is revenue.
Speaker 1: You see how right about this date, revenue started to
Speaker 1: decline because you wanted to do your little Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter party. Revenue declines, your salary declines. See that's how
Speaker 1: it works. The majority of Americans do not believe in
Speaker 1: this Black Lives Matter crap. They don't believe America is
Speaker 1: evil and racist. There are, of course racist people in
Speaker 1: the country of all color. Plenty of racist black people.
Speaker 1: You see it out there all the time. Now I
Speaker 1: just feel totally comfortable being open with it because of
Speaker 1: this idiotic black supremacist movement. There's racist white people, racist
Speaker 1: Mexican people, racist Asians, racist Cubans, racist Indians, racist everything.
Speaker 1: I know this because it's the nature of man. My
Speaker 1: skin color is better than your skin color. That's how
Speaker 1: we group ourselves up. It simplifies life. It simplifies life,
Speaker 1: which is why all these supremacist movements are generally followed
Speaker 1: by morons, because it's a simplistic way to view the world.
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is heading to Kenosha, that's after Trump just
Speaker 1: visited Kenosha, Wisconsin. Trump did a big photo op there yesterday,
Speaker 1: met with a bunch of business owners who had their
Speaker 1: businesses destroyed, Shaking hands, kissing babies, doing the presidential thing
Speaker 1: and the political thing. There's a bit of both there,
Speaker 1: and that's awesome. That's fine. I expect that out of
Speaker 1: my president. Joe Biden following along, which is fine. I
Speaker 1: get that. Gotta go do some politicking himself. But Joe
Speaker 1: Biden has a major, major problem. He cannot continue to
Speaker 1: follow Trump. He always ends up looking week week, will
Speaker 1: not be elected in November. In November, with people this scared,
Speaker 1: they're going to be voting for strength. That's how people vote.
Speaker 1: I think Michael Moore, of all people, has it figured
Speaker 1: out pretty well. Michael Moore says Trump could repeat twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen win with off the charts enthusiasm. Of course. Of course.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Selena Zito about this in
Speaker 1: about ten minutes. And one of the things I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask her about I remember she was you know how
Speaker 1: she sticks to the back roads when she travels across
Speaker 1: the rust Belt. She does not take highway. She sticks
Speaker 1: to the back road. She stays in bed and breakfast.
Speaker 1: She talks to just normal people trying to get a
Speaker 1: gauge on an election. And she was one of the
Speaker 1: only people nationally who predicted strongly before the election Trump
Speaker 1: is going to win. And I'm gonna ask her about this.
Speaker 1: Yard signs were part of how she made that determination.
Speaker 1: Sounds dumb, right, Well, what does that mean? Yard signs?
Speaker 1: I've started to pay a lot more attention to it,
Speaker 1: and man, it matters. It's a measure of enthusiasm for
Speaker 1: people enthusiasm is a big, big deal, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to presidential elections. And no matter how much you
Speaker 1: hate Trump, who's excited to go vote for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump creates excitement. Creates a lot of hatred too.
Speaker 1: That just comes with I mean, that comes with the job,
Speaker 1: and it comes with how he is. But he creates excitement.
Speaker 1: And Democrats made the ultimate mistake. I preach against this
Speaker 1: all the time, and I want you to hear me,
Speaker 1: because Republicans are going to try to do the same
Speaker 1: thing the Democrats did. I know this because we did
Speaker 1: it last time with Mitt Romney. Here's what happens, Barack
Speaker 1: Obama does his first four years as president. I hated him.
Speaker 1: You hated him. And because you and I, as Republican
Speaker 1: primary voters, hated him, we get ourselves caught in this
Speaker 1: trap and assume other people hate him that much too. Well,
Speaker 1: if I hate him and you hate him, then I
Speaker 1: bet all those people hate him and everyone hates him,
Speaker 1: so obviously we're gonna win as long as we don't
Speaker 1: make a mistake. Just play it safe, don't make a mistake.
Speaker 1: Everybody hates Obama. Let's put up the safest guy in
Speaker 1: the world. Who's safer than Mitt Romney. Look at him.
Speaker 1: He's a He's a handsome guy with ninety seven kids.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even drink alcohol. They do whole news shows
Speaker 1: on all He has his chocolate milk as his only vice.
Speaker 1: What a saint. It's safe, right, History, you know, we
Speaker 1: study that a bit on the show. History tells us
Speaker 1: presidents get reelected. Almost all of them get reelected. Why
Speaker 1: is that? Because there's so much power that comes with
Speaker 1: the office. Think of the publicity Trump gets every single day.
Speaker 1: Now it's all bad, but it's all about him, and
Speaker 1: he's meeting with world leaders. It looks presidential. He's flying
Speaker 1: on Air Force One, it looks presidential. He's visiting Kenosha,
Speaker 1: it looks presidential. He has general's saluting him and marines him.
Speaker 1: Everything it looks presidential. The power of the office helps
Speaker 1: keep you in the office. You cannot, as a rule,
Speaker 1: you cannot defeat an incumbent president with a safe pick.
Speaker 1: You have to take a big chance and swing for
Speaker 1: the fences and maybe lose, maybe lose embarrassingly, but you
Speaker 1: have to swing for the fences. But parties make the mistake.
Speaker 1: Democrats did it this time, the same thing we did
Speaker 1: with Mitt Romney. I hate Trump. Trump's the devil. Trump
Speaker 1: is a Nazi. Trump is the anti Christ. I hate Trump,
Speaker 1: and you ate Trump, and everyone ates Trump, and Hollywood
Speaker 1: hates Trump and mediates Trump, and hate hate hate Trump sucks.
Speaker 1: Trump sucks. Trump sucks. Let's just put up we could
Speaker 1: put up a crash test dummy and he could beat Trump.
Speaker 1: And and so they actually picked someone who really might
Speaker 1: be a crash test dummy by this point in time.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't excite anybody. And you can hear it
Speaker 1: on the campaign trail, these things Joe Biden has said.
Speaker 1: And I've I've I told him, wait, what was a
Speaker 1: chocolate milk, walnuts, ducks and turtles? He loses his train
Speaker 1: of thought. He sounds exhausted. He always sounds exhausted. And
Speaker 1: he's at a point when he's as rested as he's
Speaker 1: going to be. This is as rested as Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is going to be. They made a mistake, the same
Speaker 1: mistake we make. Let us remember that so in the
Speaker 1: future we don't ever make that mistake again. Do not
Speaker 1: nominate a safe pick to bounce and incumbent. And he's
Speaker 1: totally I mean, talk about being trapped in the bubble
Speaker 1: and off message headline, Biden says he'd consider shutting down
Speaker 1: the US again. What even if, even if you're one
Speaker 1: of these hardcore coronavirus people, There's no way you can
Speaker 1: be stupid enough to think the country it would be
Speaker 1: on board, was shutting down again. At this point in time,
Speaker 1: people are losing their minds over this shutdown. They've lost
Speaker 1: their businesses. Restaurants are going out of business by the dozen.
Speaker 1: Are you an idiot? You shut down again? That is
Speaker 1: so off message and so against what the public wants.
Speaker 1: The campaign's lost lost. But remember it's about more than
Speaker 1: just the presidency. It's about down ballot races. The Democrats
Speaker 1: have so much of this culture and so much power
Speaker 1: during these riots, not because they have the presidency. They don't.
Speaker 1: They have it because Democrats focus on judges. Democrats focus
Speaker 1: on district attorneys. I'm looking at a headline right here.
Speaker 1: California district attorney instructs officers to determine if looters need
Speaker 1: items before making arrests. I'm not exaggerating, that's real. That's real.
Speaker 1: We focus a lot on the sexy things because you
Speaker 1: and I don't live politics, right, I talk it for
Speaker 1: a living. I don't live politics. And president sexy Commander
Speaker 1: in chief who you know it's not sexy? The local
Speaker 1: judge race, Oh, who cares about that? I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of either of these people. Why does this matter? Well,
Speaker 1: when they start looting, rioting and burning in the local
Speaker 1: district attorney decides, I'm not even going to charge this guy.
Speaker 1: It matters now, doesn't it? And when some Second Amendment
Speaker 1: guy tries to protect a business ends up in a
Speaker 1: violent confrontation and he gets charged with murder one, it
Speaker 1: matters now, doesn't it? Hang on, You don't put all
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Speaker 1: silver coins. Joining me now, the great Selena Zito, who
Speaker 1: writes for every publication under the sun, but also, as
Speaker 1: I was discussing earlier, wrote the book The Great Revolt
Speaker 1: about Trump's Coalition. And she's the only person I know
Speaker 1: nationally who told everyone who would listen that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was gonna win reelection. And everyone called her an idiot,
Speaker 1: and she didn't know what she was talking about. And
Speaker 1: look who's smart? Now, Selena, I understand. You get to
Speaker 1: talk to the two most important men in America over
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour span. Is that true? Yes, that
Speaker 1: would be you, and yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am, that's exactly yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: You most definitely did. I am excited for you to
Speaker 1: get to talk to me, and less so President Trump.
Speaker 1: And all seriousness, How does one score an interview with
Speaker 1: the man himself? Um, Essentially you ask all sometimes. I
Speaker 1: mean I've interviewed presidents all the way back to George W.
Speaker 1: And HW. Bush show. You know, it really is about asking,
Speaker 1: and most of the time the answers know. But I
Speaker 1: have interviewed um every president back to H. W. Bush
Speaker 1: and the vice president. In fact, this will be the
Speaker 1: first time in my career. Well when I have not
Speaker 1: interviewed both sides of the aisle that are running for presidents,
Speaker 1: then that would be Joe Biden. I have. Now, I
Speaker 1: have interviewed Biden dozens of times over the years, but
Speaker 1: not as the nominee. So and it's not like I
Speaker 1: didn't ask. He was just in my backyard literally two
Speaker 1: days ago. What type of guy is by? Not politically
Speaker 1: obviously everyone knows I can't stand Democrats politically, what type
Speaker 1: of guy is the I understand he's a politician, so
Speaker 1: you're even in a private interview, you're going to get that.
Speaker 1: But what kind of guy is he? He's a guy
Speaker 1: that loved people and loved life. You know, he's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy at at the party or at the
Speaker 1: barbecue where you know, you start talking to him and
Speaker 1: it's fun and you're enjoying it. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's forty minutes later and you're like, Okay, maybe this
Speaker 1: conversation went too long. But you know he's in real life,
Speaker 1: he can be a very likable guy. This is a
Speaker 1: person who's been a politician for the majority of his life,
Speaker 1: so you hone those skills, those people skills, and that's
Speaker 1: essentially how he has maneuvered his way up within American politics.
Speaker 1: What's the I mean, as much as you're allowed to
Speaker 1: speak about this, what's the Joe Biden Joe Biden relationship?
Speaker 1: Like everybody has a different relationship when it comes to
Speaker 1: their marriage. And I will tell you I see so
Speaker 1: much of her, in my opinion, way too much of her.
Speaker 1: I think they're putting her out there because she's still
Speaker 1: sharp and he's very much not. But what's their relationship? Like?
Speaker 1: Are they close? Is it one of these Clinton marriage
Speaker 1: of convenience things? What is it? You know? I had
Speaker 1: never really in all my years of covering him, And
Speaker 1: you have to remember that because I live in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: and because he's from Delaware, and because he was born
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, he always called himself the third Senator from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: I have never really observed the two of them together
Speaker 1: long enough to make an assessment of that relationship. How'd
Speaker 1: you call it with Trump? What led you to believe
Speaker 1: when everyone else told you you were an idiot? What
Speaker 1: led you to believe Trump was going to win because
Speaker 1: you were sure of yourself? Yeah? The voters. It had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. You know everybody thinks his
Speaker 1: That election was about him, Nah, And had to do
Speaker 1: with the people that voted for him, and had to
Speaker 1: do it with the unique coalition which is outlined in
Speaker 1: the book The Great Revolt, which I see every day.
Speaker 1: I just drove across my state yesterday for a story.
Speaker 1: You see that coalition in places that people didn't understand
Speaker 1: it was forming, like suburban women that are gun owners
Speaker 1: or paroista voters, voters who vote like Sir Lake. As
Speaker 1: often as Hayley's comment comes around right there, they don't
Speaker 1: come out all all the time. So I got it
Speaker 1: through their stories, through their observations, and through watching them
Speaker 1: move away either from the establishment Republican Party or the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party to be part of this coalition. What are
Speaker 1: you seeing now? I see the same things, and what
Speaker 1: the other things that I'm really observing, which I found
Speaker 1: fascinating in my drive across the state yesterday was the
Speaker 1: rural in twenty sixteen, I kept telling my co author
Speaker 1: Brad Todd Um, there's a lot of signs out here,
Speaker 1: and he would say zero signs, don't well, don't vote,
Speaker 1: not like all right, alright, alright, well twenty sixteen ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing on twenty twenty. I mean, it was. It's
Speaker 1: it's insane that it is the amount of signage, homemade signs.
Speaker 1: If you went down to the local GOP and got
Speaker 1: a sign, you didn't get one, you got five Trump
Speaker 1: flags in places where he needs to turn out more voters.
Speaker 1: And that's the key thing. He needs to turn out
Speaker 1: more rural voters. And I'm seeing that enthusiasm in those
Speaker 1: areas and in Pennsylvania that is, that is the key
Speaker 1: for him to win. I would say that my state
Speaker 1: isn't about one percentage point in either directions, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, drastically different, I think than what people would
Speaker 1: have said two weeks ago. But this race has moved,
Speaker 1: and um, I think it's a jump ball raced right now.
Speaker 1: A jump ball race is making a whole lot of
Speaker 1: Trump voters listening to my show awfully nervous. What is
Speaker 1: he doing to the Why is it even a jump
Speaker 1: ball race? A lot of people look at this violence
Speaker 1: and they say, Trump's got it one. Why why is
Speaker 1: it a jump ball? Well, let's put this way. He
Speaker 1: was he was in the hole a month ago. Trump
Speaker 1: was in the hole. He was not in a good place.
Speaker 1: He is. People are now paying attention and it's moving
Speaker 1: in his direction. And I would say he probably has
Speaker 1: the advantage at this moment. His um, his numbers have
Speaker 1: moved out because did an effective job in his convention
Speaker 1: of having everyday people tell their stories and talk about
Speaker 1: their lives. And at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 1: what you want at a convention, not people from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but regular people who tell the stories of their lives
Speaker 1: and people can look at them and say, they're by
Speaker 1: the grace of God? Does me? That's me? I understand
Speaker 1: this story. I understand this person, and that moved people
Speaker 1: towards Trump. Trump has got to go out and earn
Speaker 1: these voters. But I think that he is in a
Speaker 1: very good place right now. Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1: Of course, I live in a hundreds year old house.
Speaker 1: Can I think you want to sit down and set
Speaker 1: the spell and talk about it. Yes, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen one? But I certainly have felt them. Oh are
Speaker 1: you What do you mean you've felt them? Well, you
Speaker 1: know I've heard sounds in the house. Oh tell me
Speaker 1: about the sounds. The kids and I were in the
Speaker 1: kitchen one time when they were young, and we had
Speaker 1: a piano in the sunroom and the piano started playing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's sweet. Was it actual music? It is it
Speaker 1: just somebody pressing the keys? I can't. I cannot remember
Speaker 1: because I was just so shocked by the sound. Because
Speaker 1: we all, all three of us, looked at each other
Speaker 1: and relate, and we took this mental assessment. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: we're the only people in the house and someone's playing
Speaker 1: the piano, and we went running in and it stopped
Speaker 1: and there was no one there. Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 1: I want that. I've been to all these haunted houses
Speaker 1: and all the other places and I can't ever see anything.
Speaker 1: It sucks, all right, Selena Zito? Where's your newsletter? Where
Speaker 1: can people get it? I love it? If people would
Speaker 1: go to Selena Zito dot com. They can sign up
Speaker 1: from my emails. It's SA L E n A z il.
Speaker 1: The emails are pretty they're not fattening, they're fun and
Speaker 1: they take you across the country with me. Selena Zito,
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Thank you, have a great day. Man. I
Speaker 1: want to see someone play the piano. I want to
Speaker 1: see a ghost play the piano, Chris. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you're see this as a difference. Neither of us
Speaker 1: have seen one, but I want to. You're just so
Speaker 1: scornful of everything again, missed does catch up? Jesse Kelly
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Speaker 1: It's a heavy load, man. I'm telling you what What
Speaker 1: have I been telling you? Is coming headline. Armed neighborhood
Speaker 1: watch forms in wake of Kenosha riots. About ten residents
Speaker 1: are taking part in a nightly watch, including Jason Ottum
Speaker 1: and Gilbert Rosellis, both longtime residents of the neighborhood. The
Speaker 1: pair said they're not looking to start trouble. They're simply
Speaker 1: hoping to keep any trouble away from their quiet streets. Quote.
Speaker 1: All we're doing is making sure the community here is
Speaker 1: able to go asleep, sleep fine, and are not worried
Speaker 1: about anything, said Rosellis. Rosellis, who said he's lived in
Speaker 1: the area for eighteen years, got involved after seeing other
Speaker 1: members of the neighborhood guard assembling Tuesday. The effort was
Speaker 1: launched after aighborhood watch meeting held in wake of the
Speaker 1: violence that ensued largely in the city's downtown and uptown
Speaker 1: districts after the police shooting on August twenty third of
Speaker 1: Jacob Blake. Anyone trying to enter the subdivision in the
Speaker 1: evening hours are typically met by a couple of armed homeowners.
Speaker 1: Rosala said the intent is not to intimidate or harass anyone,
Speaker 1: but simply to let any uninvited guests know that residents
Speaker 1: are wide awake and watching for any trouble. And this
Speaker 1: is not the end. This is the beginning. I told
Speaker 1: you this was coming. These armed neighborhood watches are going
Speaker 1: to be forming across the United States of America because
Speaker 1: no one seems to actually want to put down these riots.
Speaker 1: The rioters are only going to get bolder in Boulder.
Speaker 1: In Boulder, the clash between them and some of these
Speaker 1: armed people in the suburbs is coming. When it's coming,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's not going to be pretty.
Speaker 1: And you can sit there and do what you're tempted
Speaker 1: to do, what I'm tempted to do. Yeah, I hope
Speaker 1: they go out there and try. You don't, You don't
Speaker 1: people are gonna get hurt, People are gonna die, People
Speaker 1: are going to die. Do you know what that looks like?
Speaker 1: Laying down in the street with a sucking chest wound
Speaker 1: calling for your mom in neighborhoods, that street right out
Speaker 1: in front of your home. You want that there? You
Speaker 1: want your kids watching it? I don't, I don't, and
Speaker 1: you really don't either. But it's coming and when it
Speaker 1: gets here. The people you can blame for this are
Speaker 1: all the people who jumped on this idiotic bandwagon from
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Chris, do you still have that cut
Speaker 1: we played yesterday of all those all the Democrats and
Speaker 1: leftist pundance encouraging this, get in your face violence. Do
Speaker 1: to them what they're doing, just no justice, no peace.
Speaker 1: Let me know, if you have that, Chris, uprisings all
Speaker 1: of the country, maybe there will be people need to
Speaker 1: start speaking to the streets. This is a dictator, you know.
Speaker 1: There needs to be unrest in the streets for as
Speaker 1: long as there's unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state,
Speaker 1: show me where it says that protests are supposed to
Speaker 1: be polite and peaceful. Do something about your dad's immigrational practices. Effeckless,
Speaker 1: go low? How do you is this the temptation to
Speaker 1: run up and ring her? Next biggest terror threat in
Speaker 1: this country is white men, most of them radicalized right
Speaker 1: up to the right. I thought he should have punished
Speaker 1: him in the face. And even if you lost, he
Speaker 1: insulted your wife, he being on the escalator and called
Speaker 1: Mexican's rapist and hers. He said, well, what do you
Speaker 1: think I should have done? So? I think you should
Speaker 1: have punsh him in the face and then got out
Speaker 1: of the race. You would have been a hero. I'd
Speaker 1: like to punch him in the face. I said, if
Speaker 1: we're in high school, I'd take him behind the gym
Speaker 1: and beat the hell out of him. Punch some people
Speaker 1: in the face. Whom is the last time an actor
Speaker 1: assassinated a president. They're still going to have to go
Speaker 1: out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. And that's
Speaker 1: a fact. Look as his character is stabbed to death,
Speaker 1: where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him? I
Speaker 1: have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Speaker 1: The Missouri state senator is under investigation by the Secret Service.
Speaker 1: After seeing she hopes President Trump is assassinated, I will
Speaker 1: go and take Trump out tonight. And if you see
Speaker 1: anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a dead
Speaker 1: stand at a gasol station, you get out and you
Speaker 1: get a cock, and so on and so on and
Speaker 1: so on and so on. Four years now of Nazi
Speaker 1: puncha Nazi either a Nazi, anyone who votes for Trump
Speaker 1: as a Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. Why do you think
Speaker 1: they do that. They do that for the same reason
Speaker 1: we call Germans huns in World War One. They do
Speaker 1: that because it's easier to hurt somebody. It's easier to
Speaker 1: justify it in your mind when you dehumanize them and
Speaker 1: make them something other than a human being. What can't
Speaker 1: you do to a Nazi? Your conscience will allow you
Speaker 1: to do anything to a Nazi, Right, it's a Nazi.
Speaker 1: As soon as they started calling you and I Nazis,
Speaker 1: we all should have known that violence was coming tall
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Speaker 1: preparing the battlefield. What they were doing. I am one
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Speaker 1: That is when the show win nationally syndicated, so all
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Speaker 1: already listened to every one of my shows from now
Speaker 1: so I mean since April. That's incredible. We're very popular, Chris.
Speaker 1: It's a very important show. It's very heavy. We talk
Speaker 1: about some stuff that's gonna go over your head, like
Speaker 1: ghosts in adult filmhouses. We didn't even discuss the olive
Speaker 1: garden breadstick hut dogs today. We should have I know,
Speaker 1: I know. Look, remind me. We'll dig into that and
Speaker 1: other important stuff tomorrow. In the meantime, you'all take it easy.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some more fun. Tomorrow. We get a
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