Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Silis and Chris
Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and
Speaker 1: entertainment in the stray. Now here's Chris Johnson. Good afternoon everyone,
Speaker 1: This is Chris Johnson. You are now tuned into kJ Live.
Speaker 1: Today's guests on the show. Three time NBA Champion executive,
Speaker 1: two times NBA Executive of the Year, the President of
Speaker 1: Basketball Operations and general manager of the Golden State Warriors,
Speaker 1: none other than Bob Myers is in the building. Bob,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man, it's a it's a pleasure and
Speaker 1: honor my friend. Uh never thought I'd be doing a
Speaker 1: podcast with you. I mean, it's a long day. It's
Speaker 1: a long way from our days back at u c
Speaker 1: l A lockers next to each other, and you always
Speaker 1: complained about stuff I was doing in life. But uh, well,
Speaker 1: we'll touch on that in a little bit. That later.
Speaker 1: We'll touch at a little bit, Bob. So, So, I
Speaker 1: wanted to start the show off, like I do with
Speaker 1: all of our guests. Okay, we want to give our
Speaker 1: audience and our listeners an idea of who the person is,
Speaker 1: the foundation that made the man or the woman for
Speaker 1: that matter, souse. I've had female guests on the show
Speaker 1: into the person they are today. UM, I just want
Speaker 1: to know where you're born, city, the neighborhood, and how
Speaker 1: did that community impact you sort of who you worked
Speaker 1: are today? Um? So yeah, born and raised East Bay.
Speaker 1: We were joking before I came on. I was a
Speaker 1: Warrior's fan growing up. So that's uh, that's a little
Speaker 1: known factor, maybe well known. I grew up in a
Speaker 1: nutshell Chris white, middle class, you know, basic basic two parents,
Speaker 1: parents still together, fifty years married, and backyard with a
Speaker 1: basketball hoop and the pool. And you know why is
Speaker 1: that relevant? It's not really. Um. The longer I've lived,
Speaker 1: of the more I appreciate the saneness of my upbringing,
Speaker 1: the normalcy, the more people I meet, even when you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the locker, we're skipping a step.
Speaker 1: But sitting next to you and and judging how you
Speaker 1: would act after practice and who you were, I've realized, like,
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Um, because I presumed you were raised
Speaker 1: like I was, which was dumb, right, that was naive,
Speaker 1: But no one you now and and stuff we've never
Speaker 1: even talked about. Um. I have a better understanding of
Speaker 1: people and you and kind of like for me to
Speaker 1: think people get to have what I had is really,
Speaker 1: um pretty dumb on my part. So I had for
Speaker 1: the people listening, I didn't have, you know, nothing was
Speaker 1: given to me professionally, and I wasn't born into a
Speaker 1: bunch of wealth. But as far as a chance to
Speaker 1: succeed in life, I had that, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and haven't gone into play is just like saying, Quentin
Speaker 1: and played with those guys and basketball and seeing hearing
Speaker 1: a little bit about their upbringing makes you really um
Speaker 1: appreciate what I have and it also wakes you up
Speaker 1: to life and that what I had is not you know,
Speaker 1: my idea of normal. Many people don't have that. But Bob,
Speaker 1: you only know what you know. You know, so you
Speaker 1: can't blame You can't blame people like yourself that grew
Speaker 1: up a certain way because that's where you live, just
Speaker 1: like you can't blame folks that grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: on the other side of tacks. But they get blamed, Chris,
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Though. They get blamed, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And we can go down at a different time.
Speaker 1: But that's where I agree with you. But but you
Speaker 1: may have a better understanding of that than I even do.
Speaker 1: You may not blame him, but speaking from like what
Speaker 1: I the stuff I'm around, like people do understand like
Speaker 1: when we give a prisoner a chance to former inmate,
Speaker 1: that could call our game. I don't if you saw, um,
Speaker 1: we let a guy that about of San Quentin, which
Speaker 1: was which was great. Um. A lot of people wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it publicly, but we're going, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Why would you help X? And why would you help
Speaker 1: a convict get a start back in life? There's many
Speaker 1: people that would say that and judge like, why would
Speaker 1: you help somebody? And somebody asked me, I said, why
Speaker 1: can't anybody get a second chance or a third? You know?
Speaker 1: So anyways, we're going off the script, but any that
Speaker 1: my upbringing matters for that reason. That's at what point
Speaker 1: growing up in Danville, did you fall in love with
Speaker 1: the game of basketball? Because I know you're you're you know,
Speaker 1: you did a bunch of stuff. You're an athlete, Bob, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not like you. I um, I love basketball,
Speaker 1: uh and I basketball even to this day. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you feel. I know you love basketball too.
Speaker 1: If I'm driving anywhere or walking around a bike, and
Speaker 1: I see the game being played by a ten year old,
Speaker 1: the thirty year old, the fifty year old inside outside,
Speaker 1: I have to look right. I'm not an alcoholic like that,
Speaker 1: Like if an alcoholic sees a drink, they're just drawn
Speaker 1: to it, you know. So for me, I would pull
Speaker 1: over if I could. If I had a life where
Speaker 1: I could just stop and jump in every pickup game
Speaker 1: that existed in the world, I would pull over, and
Speaker 1: I would do it for free, and I would do
Speaker 1: it as long as I could. Um. So basketball is
Speaker 1: the one pure known of my life, Like the only
Speaker 1: thing I've ever known cold was that I love basketball,
Speaker 1: and I think that won't change, and that hasn't changed
Speaker 1: for me. It's a little harder Chris in the position
Speaker 1: I'm into just love it purely, I know too much.
Speaker 1: Like if you and I went to watch a movie
Speaker 1: and you directed it and produced it and started it,
Speaker 1: you can't watch it the same way I can't. I
Speaker 1: walk out and I go, Chris, that you're unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: you go, you have it. They couldn't pay me much
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to get paid, and they cut out
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, like I wouldn't have done a different ending,
Speaker 1: it would have been better. So I can't watch the game,
Speaker 1: at least the pro game. That's why when we can
Speaker 1: talk about U c l A. My best moments of
Speaker 1: just happiness was watching U c l A this year
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a say and who they recruited
Speaker 1: and what plays Crowing was calling. I didn't want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to watch it basketball in my whole life.
Speaker 1: Um longs backs that can remember love the game. The
Speaker 1: Bruins were unbelievable this year, and we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about them, Um a little bit later. What I read
Speaker 1: a story somewhere where you were actually trying to follow
Speaker 1: someone's footsteps and rowing somewhere, and then laugh got with
Speaker 1: you and said, hey, maybe you know you can help
Speaker 1: us here. Talk about how you got introduced to u
Speaker 1: c l A basketball. Yeah, so I didn't my um
Speaker 1: A A. You was just starting, right, I mean you
Speaker 1: might have played in it, but down in the Bay
Speaker 1: Area up here it was pretty new, right and so
Speaker 1: and so was the internet. It was non existent really,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't very good until my senior year. I
Speaker 1: was okay my senior year of high school, and I
Speaker 1: played in AH like a local all star game, and
Speaker 1: the coach of a Dabla Valley junior college said, hey,
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting recruited anywhere. He said, hey, you want
Speaker 1: to play for us. If you played for US and
Speaker 1: play well, maybe I could get you into Oregon State
Speaker 1: or some some some packed twic And I said, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I got good grades. I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: junior college. I just want to go to college if
Speaker 1: I could play basketball grade. So I went and visited
Speaker 1: a bunch of schools and even some IVY leagues and
Speaker 1: looked at them in other schools and said, maybe I
Speaker 1: can play basketball here. But nobody looked at my tapes,
Speaker 1: so nobody cared, which was fine. So I decided I
Speaker 1: was going to pick the school I want to go
Speaker 1: to and forget about basketball. So I was touring around
Speaker 1: U c l A's athletic department with my dad, and
Speaker 1: my brother was a rower at University of Washington up
Speaker 1: there in Seattle. So I thought, you know, i'd like
Speaker 1: to do something in college. Maybe i'll try that. I've
Speaker 1: never done it, and I stumbled upon lavin where in
Speaker 1: the cubicle and the cubicle which they don't even have.
Speaker 1: They had totally redone, you know, the athletic department. Um.
Speaker 1: But he had a picture of John Wooden because Lab
Speaker 1: was an assistant to Purdue. You remember a graduated system
Speaker 1: and he was assistant for Gene Katie. John Wooden tend
Speaker 1: to Purdue or play to Purdue, I think. And my
Speaker 1: dad went to produce. So we were walking and he
Speaker 1: saw a lab and and lab, you know Lab. He
Speaker 1: starts up a conversation with whoever is walking by, what
Speaker 1: are you guys doing here? And I said, I was
Speaker 1: walking around, you know, and my dad said you Purdue.
Speaker 1: I went there and said John wyn and then laugh
Speaker 1: said what do you what do you are you going
Speaker 1: to school here? And I said yeah, And I said, um,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm looking for the recruit coach rowing.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't even know if we have that
Speaker 1: program here and I said, well, he said it might
Speaker 1: be a club sport and a club sport people listening
Speaker 1: is it's not really affiliated with the school. They just
Speaker 1: have a tangential relationship. But it's not really school sponsor interview.
Speaker 1: It's not even it's a little step of but it's
Speaker 1: in between that right in between. So he said, what
Speaker 1: about basketball, because I'm six six? And I said, I
Speaker 1: don't think I could play here, and and he said,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Because if you look at the
Speaker 1: guy and he's six and I look more athletic than
Speaker 1: I'm not athletic. I'm not an athletic, but I'm not athletic.
Speaker 1: Just being honest, And don't don't correct me there, because
Speaker 1: I know what I am and what you can do.
Speaker 1: Practice okay, but that's nothing special for somebody that's sticks anyways,
Speaker 1: Let's just move off my athleticism. So so so I said, um,
Speaker 1: I said the last he said, I said, what if
Speaker 1: I was a manager? But could I manage on the team?
Speaker 1: And he said, well yeah, but why don't you try
Speaker 1: to walk on? And I said, uh, well, I don't
Speaker 1: think I can play. I don't you know. I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. This is the best basketball school
Speaker 1: I got into, Like this is the lead. If I
Speaker 1: wanted to play basketball walk on, I would have picked
Speaker 1: any other school. I basically gave us I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to u C. L A. They're the best basketball school
Speaker 1: by far. I just want to go to school in
Speaker 1: l A. So you had no intention, you had no, Chris, none, none.
Speaker 1: So so then he says walk on and then I
Speaker 1: said okay, and he said you can condition with a team.
Speaker 1: And you were you were year younger, so you weren't there.
Speaker 1: So what we did was for a month, and you
Speaker 1: know my personality, and we could do a long podcast
Speaker 1: for a month. I conditioned with Ed and all these
Speaker 1: Charles and Cameron and all these guys. But I didn't
Speaker 1: talk to anybody, and I wasn't in a recruiting class
Speaker 1: to anybody. You know, Charles and Cameron, you know they're
Speaker 1: duced and the whole deal I was. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what I was. I don't
Speaker 1: think they cared about me one or the other. I
Speaker 1: was just there and I wasn't talking to anybody. I
Speaker 1: wasn't bothered anybody. So but my buddies that I went
Speaker 1: to college with, anybody I ran into, I was asking
Speaker 1: me like, where are you going? And I'm going to
Speaker 1: condition with the basketball team. And they said, what, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna play basketball? U c l A. And I
Speaker 1: kind of said, well, I probably not, but I figure
Speaker 1: i'll try. And they said this is They're kind of
Speaker 1: laugh at me like a friend would like, Chris, what
Speaker 1: do you do? But but not mean spirit. It just
Speaker 1: kind of like you're wasting your time man, like this
Speaker 1: is U c l A. And I didn't push back.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe, but let's you know, I might
Speaker 1: maybe I could walk on. Long story, I try out
Speaker 1: and here shows up our coach and it's it's in
Speaker 1: a men's gym, no, sorry, the Wooden Center, and there's
Speaker 1: like guys and there's one spot and we watched for
Speaker 1: a little while and I'm just the tallest guy there. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm sick. There's nobody six six decent because those guys
Speaker 1: play basketball somewhere, like they go to schools. Eric watched
Speaker 1: it in ten minutes and he gets it from his chair,
Speaker 1: you know him calls me over congratulations son. And then
Speaker 1: and then I didn't know what he was talking. I
Speaker 1: couldn't process what he just told me, which was I
Speaker 1: basically made the team as a walk on. I didn't
Speaker 1: tell my parents, I didn't tell anybody because I didn't
Speaker 1: believe it. I thought this is some kind of joke. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was real. And then and then I
Speaker 1: found out either gonna let me travel, and I think
Speaker 1: what makes it interesting to me? In hindsight, Chris, is
Speaker 1: when something's unexpected or you achieve something that you didn't
Speaker 1: think possible, there's a level of appreciation. Like I look
Speaker 1: at somebody like you. You got recruited. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many different school You just knew you were gonna
Speaker 1: play bass on college. You knew you were probably concerned
Speaker 1: about what number you're gonna have and what shoot. You know,
Speaker 1: I had it. I had from a basic level, like
Speaker 1: I get to play basketball with these great players and
Speaker 1: my first practice I was scared and it wasn't football, right,
Speaker 1: it's basketball. I wasn't gonna get beat up, but I
Speaker 1: was scared and I remember it and the players were
Speaker 1: so much more athletic and faster and stronger and better.
Speaker 1: But you know, over time I became, you know, decent, right,
Speaker 1: like okay, enough to kind of help the team a
Speaker 1: little bit. And uh, what you play one? I wanted
Speaker 1: the post? Why? Why why do you think that was Bob? Like?
Speaker 1: What what about your mentality? Because a lot of guys
Speaker 1: could have been thrown in that position and just wilt
Speaker 1: it because you know how we were. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: i'd go act you. It's a lot of talking. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of disrespectful stuff, so wing out there on
Speaker 1: the court. So some guys you know aren't gonna be
Speaker 1: able to take that. You know, what did How did
Speaker 1: you prepare yourself mentally to deal with the athlete, high
Speaker 1: level athletes like that on the court competing against them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think I just had it. Sounds cliche, but
Speaker 1: I just had to do the best I could. Like
Speaker 1: in life, I think we're most pleased when we give
Speaker 1: our best effort. Right, if you're being honest with yourself,
Speaker 1: you fail a test, you don't get a job as
Speaker 1: long as you know you kind of left it out
Speaker 1: there a game. That's why players, I think, always have
Speaker 1: it the best, even the position I'm in now, because
Speaker 1: they get to compete, you know, they get to lose,
Speaker 1: and they get to be spent on the court and
Speaker 1: they put it out there. So when I put it
Speaker 1: out there in practice. But the things I love too
Speaker 1: was like even you, I got to play basketball, and
Speaker 1: I always remember how good you were and how how
Speaker 1: how the touch you had around the rim and your
Speaker 1: hands and your ability to move and just to just
Speaker 1: to be around somebody. It was that good at something
Speaker 1: I loved was was something for me you know, it
Speaker 1: was something for me to be like, I'm getting to
Speaker 1: play with these guys. And when you surround yourself with
Speaker 1: people that are that much better than you, inevitably you
Speaker 1: you'll get better. So that was the fun thing. It
Speaker 1: was never about starting or playing. It was like, I'm
Speaker 1: getting better at something I love. That was good, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. I didn't even know that part of it,
Speaker 1: to where you started off conditioning. I thought it was
Speaker 1: already a done deal on the wall, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know you have to earn it. And so now it
Speaker 1: helps me understand looking back on it, just your whole
Speaker 1: disposition towards every ye. It was because you remember used
Speaker 1: to leave you when you were taking that one economics
Speaker 1: class or something. Remember used to like leave halfway through
Speaker 1: practice to class. I remember. I remember. I think I
Speaker 1: was the only guy on the team that knew I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to the NBA like that. I remember. I
Speaker 1: remember I would bring my books to the because you'd
Speaker 1: be working out pre pre practice and then I'd be
Speaker 1: like reading my big whatever the hell book it was economics,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, what are you doing, Chris, Chris,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a career of basketball, like I
Speaker 1: know it, it's over true story and so but anyways,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, man, I it was great, fun times,
Speaker 1: good times. Ninety We want a championship with ninety five together,
Speaker 1: but ninety four. I wanted to just touch on a
Speaker 1: moment that happened after you on the team that lost
Speaker 1: to Tulsa. Uh in the locker room, I know ed
Speaker 1: it was pretty disappointment. Talk about just how sort of
Speaker 1: catapulted the momentum of U c l A basketball, the
Speaker 1: end of nine catapulted us into and the run that
Speaker 1: we eventually went on. Yeah, I mean people in abandon
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people. Um you know him, Chris,
Speaker 1: and I think you probably feel the same way in
Speaker 1: the world because of his humility right in its great
Speaker 1: talent like what a and um soft spoken, nice heart,
Speaker 1: like great human being giving all the things that are
Speaker 1: pretty hard to find these days or in any day.
Speaker 1: But we that championship running ninety five started in at
Speaker 1: halftime of the lost a Toulsa like that. That's when
Speaker 1: it started. And I know you weren't there, but you
Speaker 1: would have loved it because we go through life and
Speaker 1: I'm older enough, like top five most vivid memories was
Speaker 1: him and halftime and and literally the people in life
Speaker 1: like you're you know, you've lived now and we've seen
Speaker 1: things and done things. It's the it's the stop spoken
Speaker 1: ones You've gotta be a little careful around. It's the
Speaker 1: ones that don't raise their voice very often. And Ed
Speaker 1: was that and he did and oh my god. That So,
Speaker 1: so what happens is the halftime, the coaches they huddle,
Speaker 1: as you know, and then they talk about what they're
Speaker 1: gonna tell the team and then they come in. So
Speaker 1: the team's in there alone for a minute at halftime
Speaker 1: of even the NBA. So so that's the moment where
Speaker 1: you yell at me and Sam and an idiot like
Speaker 1: why did you? Why did you get that rebad? That's
Speaker 1: when all that ships happened. So Ed Ed Ed came
Speaker 1: in and picked up a chair and just fired it
Speaker 1: across the room and and was like, I can't if
Speaker 1: and go back to l A. I can't. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: And we were down twenty in half, right and we
Speaker 1: were four and they were thirteen. I think, oh no,
Speaker 1: we yeah, that's right, that's right. And so it was bad.
Speaker 1: And so but here's the the point of it. What
Speaker 1: And then the coaches started walking in and they just
Speaker 1: stopped and walked out because they knew this, this moment
Speaker 1: needed to happen, like without them and like they needed
Speaker 1: to let this moment happen. And it was ten minutes
Speaker 1: to add just embarrassed, like at the highest level of
Speaker 1: appear like frustration, rage, passion um. And it wasn't against
Speaker 1: it was him too, like he was owning the failure
Speaker 1: in the moment, like not just you did this, you
Speaker 1: didn't do that. And it was the truth, right, that
Speaker 1: team had a softness to it that they got exposed,
Speaker 1: bottom line, like and and a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to hear the truth, but we did. And so
Speaker 1: for me, you came the following year and when he
Speaker 1: made sure he was first in every sprint, and he
Speaker 1: made sure he didn't miss a practice, and he made
Speaker 1: sure his team on every drill that championship run. And
Speaker 1: you were there when we were down against Missouri Emboise, right,
Speaker 1: were down one pot and four point eight seconds. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows what Tis did the second round of the tournament.
Speaker 1: So one time in my life where I actually thought
Speaker 1: professionally at least this isn't how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Like this team can't lose right now, This can't happen,
Speaker 1: Like this cannot happen like this, that makes no sense,
Speaker 1: Like everything I've learned in my entire life about doing
Speaker 1: things the right way, acting the right way, putting the
Speaker 1: work in, failing then succeeding. In that moment when we
Speaker 1: were down, I could not fathom We're gonna lose. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be any of our season. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that, like there's other people
Speaker 1: that that played college but something didn't go the way
Speaker 1: it was supposed to go. But this one, for real,
Speaker 1: I knew were there um and then obviously Tias makes
Speaker 1: a shot and we win it. But it was all
Speaker 1: part of Like I said that the one yard line
Speaker 1: going the other way on the field was halftime at Tulsa.
Speaker 1: And then culture was already set. You said basketball when
Speaker 1: I arrived, you know it was. It was a hierarchy
Speaker 1: and you just knew what time it was around there.
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Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. What was your
Speaker 1: favorite memory of just not necessarily during the season, but
Speaker 1: if our championship celebration, I should remember and look, l A.
Speaker 1: You know you're you're in l A. You know, born
Speaker 1: and raised guy. U. L A loves a winner. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't love. They don't have much else, but they
Speaker 1: love a winner, and so they treat when they treat
Speaker 1: you like royalty if you win. It's not many better
Speaker 1: places to win in l A. Maybe New York too.
Speaker 1: But I remember not going to class and my class
Speaker 1: not to not to knock on anybody out, but my
Speaker 1: classes were real applied to show up. I couldn't not
Speaker 1: sh up for class. And so I remember walking into class.
Speaker 1: This class had started three weeks ago and I hadn't
Speaker 1: been and I walked in and I remember just being
Speaker 1: like a barratt, I hungover whatever. And the teacher said,
Speaker 1: in front of the whole class, he's like, I was
Speaker 1: wondering if you're gonna show up. I wondering when you're
Speaker 1: gonna show up, like and then but he started laughing,
Speaker 1: he said in a nice way, you know, but that
Speaker 1: was my moment of like this is in life. You
Speaker 1: don't often get to kind of float around like you
Speaker 1: don't get to do whatever you want to do and
Speaker 1: break all the rules and kind of be that. It
Speaker 1: was one time in my life, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of like I get to not be responsible for a
Speaker 1: little while, like I'm not good at that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not good. I get to kind of do whatever
Speaker 1: the hell I want for two weeks. And obviously we did,
Speaker 1: we all did, so that was my I mean there
Speaker 1: wasn't one you know, we went on the TV show,
Speaker 1: did the Disney Parade, and but for me, it was
Speaker 1: all of it combined, right, I mean we we all
Speaker 1: of the whole thing and doing it with the team
Speaker 1: and doing it. That's what people don't get when you
Speaker 1: talk about what it means to win a championship. It's
Speaker 1: the bond that we have, that's it, because nobody can
Speaker 1: touch that, right, nobody can take that. I see you,
Speaker 1: I see Toby, I see Coach Harry, I see anybody,
Speaker 1: the people that were there and Charles Tis that's ours.
Speaker 1: That's not the listeners, that's ours. And in life, you
Speaker 1: don't get too many of those type of things where
Speaker 1: nobody can mess with it, because people are always messing
Speaker 1: with how you should feel and how you should act,
Speaker 1: what you should do. That's us and so that was
Speaker 1: probably my favorite part of it. Absolutely, absolutely, those are
Speaker 1: memories I'll hold on to the rest of my life. Man,
Speaker 1: Just the moments with us, the drive to the movie premier,
Speaker 1: you know, the riding of the Jay Little show, you know,
Speaker 1: those experiences on the bus, man are the ones you
Speaker 1: always will rever. I want to talk about how your
Speaker 1: experience with Armed, your experience at Wasserman for fourteen years
Speaker 1: is one of the top agents in the game. How
Speaker 1: did that prepare you for the for to be elevated
Speaker 1: to the GM of the Warriors after only a year? Um,
Speaker 1: because you went in April too? What was the two
Speaker 1: eleven April too? And did that stuff with Arnt and
Speaker 1: Wasserman and that experience prepared you any or is it
Speaker 1: not even related? No? No? And prepared me? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's so much of it prepared to me.
Speaker 1: There's a life of the NBA is not real, right,
Speaker 1: it's not people listen. It is a different world, you know.
Speaker 1: It's almost like being on a movie set all the time.
Speaker 1: It's not relatable. So when you're talking about the business
Speaker 1: of it, there's so much money and a star. You've
Speaker 1: been around stars right in your life, whether it's an actor,
Speaker 1: they're different, man, And it's not it's nothing against that,
Speaker 1: but like the way we treat celebrities athletes, it's not
Speaker 1: their fault. They're different. So so why do I bring
Speaker 1: that up. There's a relatability, there's a way to communicate,
Speaker 1: there's an empathy, there's an understanding, there's wealth, there's all
Speaker 1: these things that growing up in the agent side of
Speaker 1: things immersed me and kind of like, what is this world?
Speaker 1: How does this world move? If that makes sense? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it moves a lot with money. Arne was great
Speaker 1: because he was relentless and he was smart, and so
Speaker 1: I got to learn these traits of he. He I mean,
Speaker 1: aren't taught me you don't wait for a return phone call? Right?
Speaker 1: I was never understood that, right, yeah? Right? Did Chris
Speaker 1: call you back? No? I called him and be like,
Speaker 1: why did you call him? Bay? So he didn't were
Speaker 1: you talking about you reach? I told you to get
Speaker 1: a hold of him. I didn't tell you leave a message.
Speaker 1: I told you to talk to him. And so I
Speaker 1: learned that no boss demanding or or successful. Once the
Speaker 1: reason why you didn't do something they want you to
Speaker 1: do what they told you to do, and being young
Speaker 1: and having to call Jerry West and asked him if
Speaker 1: he would consider taking Johnnie McCoy the second around, and
Speaker 1: he didn't call me back, And I gotta called Jerry
Speaker 1: West back even though he didn't call. Isn't he does
Speaker 1: he really want to talk to me? Like? What aren't
Speaker 1: I bothering him? Uh? So I had to learn the
Speaker 1: the part of you're You're not that important, You're not
Speaker 1: nothing's beneath you, um and that there is h no
Speaker 1: boundaries to that, to this profession, that even that I'm
Speaker 1: in now, there's no structure. It's just all in all
Speaker 1: the time, and so you learn how it operates. And
Speaker 1: that taught me that and also taught me you know,
Speaker 1: in some ways. I guess if I had to translate
Speaker 1: it to what I do now, what kind of player
Speaker 1: might be the winning kind of player? You know, like
Speaker 1: you won, right you won in your career. You want
Speaker 1: like if it's a pickup game right now, your team
Speaker 1: is probably gonna win, Like you win. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how you do it, but you do it. And you
Speaker 1: see people that have that mindset and by the way.
Speaker 1: They don't. They're not always the most normal people, right,
Speaker 1: Like Kobe. You know, God rest his soul, but that
Speaker 1: that guy at dinner like you, you might be like, dude,
Speaker 1: I gotta get up and go like he wants to
Speaker 1: every every conversation, the competition. And I'd say, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of who he is. When I was taking the
Speaker 1: else at one year to get into law school, I
Speaker 1: remember he was shooting. He was with the Diadas at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was sitting on the side practicing,
Speaker 1: like we talked about, I was. I was working on
Speaker 1: my else set because he said, you want to be
Speaker 1: in this movie. I mean this commercial and I think
Speaker 1: Nigel is doing it. Remember you know who's casting it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nigel and so so I was sitting and you know
Speaker 1: you've probably done this too. There's not really any They're
Speaker 1: just waiting. I'm waiting for my two seconds to play
Speaker 1: in this game and they cut and film or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I have a bunch of free time and Kobe,
Speaker 1: what's going what do you because he's always he was
Speaker 1: always angling like what's going on? Like like Jordan, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's same way, Like you watch Last Dance. He's always
Speaker 1: surveying the room, like where where's the competence. That's why
Speaker 1: he had to play cards all the time, and golf
Speaker 1: like his whole life game like competition. Kobe is the
Speaker 1: same way. So he'd be like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm practiced for the el stat Let
Speaker 1: me see that. I said, Kobe, you can't just do this.
Speaker 1: You can't just pick it up and do it. There's
Speaker 1: methods to how you learn these things like that. It
Speaker 1: was a math problem. It's called a logic game for
Speaker 1: people that are listening. And went to law school and
Speaker 1: he said, let me try it, and I said, all right, fine.
Speaker 1: I said, there's a practice test do it. And it
Speaker 1: was about five questions you get twenty five minutes or something.
Speaker 1: And so I watched him do it. He wasn't doing
Speaker 1: it the way you're supposed. He wasn't doing it anyway, right,
Speaker 1: he was just doing it in his own head. So
Speaker 1: we check his answers and he finishes like in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I go, Cob, he didn't even use all the time.
Speaker 1: He said, all right, whatever. So we checked his answers
Speaker 1: and he got one right out of five, and I go,
Speaker 1: see what I'm talking about He goes, yeah, see I
Speaker 1: got one right. What if I had more time to
Speaker 1: study like you, I've got them all right? You know,
Speaker 1: but that's how this guy thought and fix and you're
Speaker 1: kind of like, that's why he was great. That's why
Speaker 1: he was great, and that's why you understand greatness. If
Speaker 1: you're around greatness, you see it. You don't have to
Speaker 1: even identify because that's not how I am. But I
Speaker 1: think some part of that knowledge of working around players
Speaker 1: and learning it and negotiating it probably helped. So I wasn't.
Speaker 1: So when Raymond Green goes off on our coach or
Speaker 1: something like that, you can go down and say, Drayma,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And not because you know, Chris,
Speaker 1: most people act like idiots when they're around professional They
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. Not you. But you know,
Speaker 1: if Steph Curry was sitting here, like, hey, steph, uh
Speaker 1: would it like to shoot so many threes? And they'd
Speaker 1: be like, what are you talking about? Like who are
Speaker 1: you what? They don't Yeah, they don't have to say, right,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? If step could? You know? So?
Speaker 1: So it's not even their fault, but you learn you
Speaker 1: have to break down those barriers to have to lead
Speaker 1: my position, have to lead to talk to Steve Kerr,
Speaker 1: like you learn you're around it so much like you
Speaker 1: your dad, you know, like you the people you met
Speaker 1: growing up. The NBA is not an intimidating thing for you,
Speaker 1: Like it's just your life. Like people say, why does
Speaker 1: step Curry played Thompson because their dad played in the NBA.
Speaker 1: It's nothing to them, you know, Like do you if
Speaker 1: you played in the NBA, sure you would have loved
Speaker 1: it and like, but but it wasn't like this mythical place.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, my dad played the NBA. Yeah, it's great,
Speaker 1: but those guys are the same as you, me and
Speaker 1: everybody else. It is really good at basketball. So anyways,
Speaker 1: hi help. Wow, No, that's that's an amazing answer, Bob.
Speaker 1: I like when you do this. I've watched a couple
Speaker 1: of your interviews that you've done, and you've really grew
Speaker 1: grown into a guy that's really thoughtful and mindful. And
Speaker 1: I just really respect you, my man, I really respect.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you though, what it was like. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys signed Katie, So you have three basically Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers or four four, I don't know, whatever they
Speaker 1: used to say, what do you want to argue? But whatever?
Speaker 1: They whatever, they used to say, how difficult was it
Speaker 1: to manage those different egos and status is on that
Speaker 1: type of team? Yeah, I mean it wasn't It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It depends on See, there's guys on our team that
Speaker 1: all those guys that were on the team had individually
Speaker 1: done at all, right, like m v P, Grant steph Um,
Speaker 1: championships for some of our guys, money all of them,
Speaker 1: money has money, respect, all Star games, all NBA, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So now it's kind of like what do
Speaker 1: you do when you put it all together? And what's
Speaker 1: the goal? And I think the goal for those guys,
Speaker 1: because they've done it all just to win, right, Let's
Speaker 1: go win the championship. It's one as many as we can.
Speaker 1: The hard part with all of it is when and
Speaker 1: I don't not like I don't I don't say this
Speaker 1: to degrade the media, but media is powerful and people
Speaker 1: are insecure. We're all insecure. So when you start pressing
Speaker 1: buttons like well, the reason you cel a one was
Speaker 1: was just that O'Bannon like that, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: on that team and your TIS or your Charles you
Speaker 1: know that. You're kind of like, I kind of did
Speaker 1: some stuff too. But but but then you go to
Speaker 1: the media, doesn't know what they're talking about because I
Speaker 1: know I helped. But then your buddy goes, hey man,
Speaker 1: why are they giving it all the critics And you go,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good good dude, And you're like,
Speaker 1: but but don't you think you should be getting more?
Speaker 1: And you go, well, yeah, but we're winning. And then
Speaker 1: your wife or your parents like, hey man, they wrote
Speaker 1: an article that said you're umbers are down. It's all that.
Speaker 1: It's all that. Like I talked about Igodala and we
Speaker 1: Steve came in her and brought it, decided to bring
Speaker 1: him off the bench, and I said for people to
Speaker 1: understand that. So you're a starter, you want a limp
Speaker 1: the gold medal, you've been an All Star, and a
Speaker 1: new coach who's never coach says you gotta call the bench.
Speaker 1: It ain't accepting that decision. It's accepting that decision in
Speaker 1: a very public way. So you're a Goodala and I've
Speaker 1: talked to Andrew about this. Hey, you go home that night,
Speaker 1: espn Idala set to come off the bench, and you
Speaker 1: look at it, and you're like, whatever, A little big deal.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. Then your wife they're
Speaker 1: bringing off the bench Chris, and you go, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean coach, you know, really aren't you. Aren't you one
Speaker 1: of the best players? Aren't you like the top five? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am, but you know, huh, all right, good night.
Speaker 1: And then you're going to bed. You're going ship should
Speaker 1: I be? Should be okay with it? And then and
Speaker 1: then I'm interviewing you after the game on the local
Speaker 1: go beat writer. Hey, Chris there bringing off the bench,
Speaker 1: like microphone's on. You are okay with this role I
Speaker 1: mean new coach and you go yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what coach wants to know. Then I turn off the microphone. Chris,
Speaker 1: come on, man, this kind of sucked up and you
Speaker 1: go no, no, So there's all these chances for you
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, man is fucked up because I should
Speaker 1: be stunned. But you don't do it. You don't do it.
Speaker 1: And in the NBA Finals we're down to one coach,
Speaker 1: caps on the shoulder goes, I need you to start now,
Speaker 1: and you're ready to go because you didn't feed in
Speaker 1: to the negativity and all the noise. So when he
Speaker 1: did say I need you to start. You go out
Speaker 1: and win finals m v P. That is hard to do, right,
Speaker 1: So for people, I'm not even saying I could do
Speaker 1: something for people in success to not. It's why TV
Speaker 1: shows get canceled because their success success and all it's
Speaker 1: and you're making more than me, or or you get
Speaker 1: to stand in front when we get the Emmy. Why
Speaker 1: can't I that's the problem. So it's hard. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's people. But I don't blame it was all good.
Speaker 1: I think it was great. No bad, like one guy
Speaker 1: did this wrong or that. It's just life, just how
Speaker 1: it goes. It's hard to keep stuff together when you
Speaker 1: have success and you guys have done it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been surprised how well you've actually managed everything up there.
Speaker 1: It's it's difficult, and these guys are good. You got
Speaker 1: some really good players Steph Curry, arguably, I want your
Speaker 1: opinion on this. Do you think he's the greatest point
Speaker 1: guard ever? What is the point Like, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to not answer the question. I don't know
Speaker 1: what a point guard is anymore. Well, it's so okay,
Speaker 1: how about we say what do we call him a guard.
Speaker 1: Do we call him? Well, I don't know what do
Speaker 1: we call the problem? I don't know, Like, okay, you
Speaker 1: should probably should come a point guard. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what um he besides maybe a Magic Johnson which you
Speaker 1: grew up watching so did I you're a basketball player,
Speaker 1: I can to your basketball there. Thank you. As far
Speaker 1: as messing you up on both sides of the ball, Chris,
Speaker 1: he nobody probably ever would mess out with your head
Speaker 1: more than he does. I don't know. I think that's
Speaker 1: a compliment, Like I've played pick up with it. It's
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. What does he do? He changes the whole
Speaker 1: you were watch. First of all, if you're on defense,
Speaker 1: you're watching him, you are you're supposed to keep like
Speaker 1: one eye on the ball, one on your man, right,
Speaker 1: So it's fun. It's so hard not to watch him
Speaker 1: because he can do things that don't make sense at
Speaker 1: a distance, that don't make sense, and then people forget
Speaker 1: when he gets around the rim. His finishing percentages are unbelieving.
Speaker 1: His his ability around the rim to finish for a
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't do with power athleticism. He he messes
Speaker 1: you up because he's the guy that if you're playing
Speaker 1: pick up against he makes a shot and you go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't live on that, like he ain't making that again,
Speaker 1: and he does it again and again and again, and
Speaker 1: then and you go, yeah, I dude, had a lucky day.
Speaker 1: And then you show up at the pick up again
Speaker 1: the next day and he busts you again and and
Speaker 1: you and finally, as an athlete and as a competitor,
Speaker 1: you go, I don't know what to do with this, dude.
Speaker 1: There's not many guys in the history of our game
Speaker 1: where they leave the competition shaking their head being like,
Speaker 1: I have no answer for this. And he does that,
Speaker 1: and magic maybe in a different way, like magic physically guarding,
Speaker 1: magic physically different. Here's the thing, okay, Steph to me,
Speaker 1: the way he moves without the ball, so it's the
Speaker 1: movement without the ball is probably the greatest I've ever
Speaker 1: seen at it the jukes to get open and then
Speaker 1: from the catch to the up. It's just like how
Speaker 1: how does say you know what it is like if
Speaker 1: you look at if you watch them like in our
Speaker 1: practice stility out behind me, if you watch him shoot
Speaker 1: the motion, it's not claim has got the picture perfect
Speaker 1: motion like play does. Steps, steps is different. Like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like plays is like and plays as good
Speaker 1: as you can get with what you're talking about. What
Speaker 1: is getting it off fast? Plays like here here, like
Speaker 1: here here like so but us is all one motion
Speaker 1: and so soft and like it's to watch him do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you teach it or duplicated and
Speaker 1: the ways if you looked at how many different you're
Speaker 1: taught to shoot squared up the same way, so different
Speaker 1: ways he shoots and angles and speed of release, that's
Speaker 1: what doesn't make sense. Bob off the bounce. I mean
Speaker 1: for him to be doing that thirty feet out, all
Speaker 1: the combos and then just step back up fake you
Speaker 1: know he didn't, you know, but just like it's just
Speaker 1: like I can't believe it's it's years and years of
Speaker 1: this to make this. He's just you know, and and
Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. If you were
Speaker 1: guarding him, here's the other thing you would do. You
Speaker 1: would there'd be a dead ball and you'd be you'd
Speaker 1: be like, dude, would you just stop moving? Like just
Speaker 1: stop like because it's hard enough to go on a
Speaker 1: guy like that with the ball, But the second he
Speaker 1: passes the ball, he's gone like he's often going. And
Speaker 1: that's as a defender, even if you're playing against somebody
Speaker 1: that can't do what he does. We all it's easier
Speaker 1: to guard a guy that's just sitting there. But when
Speaker 1: he's moving the way he does, you're kind of like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're stopped, like you're bothering. Stop moving so much. And
Speaker 1: the thing about it, too, is everybody's gearing up for him,
Speaker 1: so you know, the whole league, the whole league has
Speaker 1: some type of gimmick and you guys have adjusted the
Speaker 1: creative offensively. I mean, it's been unbelievable. Um yeah, quick update,
Speaker 1: Quick update on Clay Thompson injury. How's he doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good Today. I walk in the facility and
Speaker 1: he's he's rehabbing as achilles and he says, um, I said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And he's got on his uh
Speaker 1: on the on on this floor of his right from
Speaker 1: his locker all his fan mail and he goes, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm responding to fan mail man. He's like, I've never
Speaker 1: done this before, and he was kind of laughing like
Speaker 1: this this superstar life, you know, playing every game iron Man.
Speaker 1: And now he's he can't obviously can't play this year.
Speaker 1: He's It's kind of like a moment, a full cycle
Speaker 1: of life. Like you come up, you get all this
Speaker 1: fan mail, you I don't got time for this, you
Speaker 1: don't read it, you don't look at it. And then
Speaker 1: as you get older and wiser in life obviously stopped
Speaker 1: for him athletically you start reading it and you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I got time for this now. So he's good.
Speaker 1: He's a great dude. He's um play like like I
Speaker 1: talked about the mbiate, Clay respects the game like he
Speaker 1: respects the game. And I said, I said, when he
Speaker 1: got hurt again, uh Achilles, I said, I think people
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to say the only two, but
Speaker 1: I think from being around the league, he him and
Speaker 1: Derrick Rose, I said, are the two most respected players.
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever got a problem with play. How he plays,
Speaker 1: how he competes, how he lives, how he talks. He
Speaker 1: every player in the NBA will want to play with
Speaker 1: play Thoms. You can't say that about every player. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Like even with Steps, sometimes people have people
Speaker 1: hate on Step. Nobody hates on Clay, which is a compliments.
Speaker 1: But he's doing all right. He's rehabbing and James Wiseman,
Speaker 1: I know he just went down with the meniscus, but
Speaker 1: his progress this season. You guys took him at the
Speaker 1: number two overall pick, had some other options. You're happy
Speaker 1: with his progress this season? Yeah, no, I mean you
Speaker 1: always have options, but James is Yeah. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a long game, right, I mean, and it's tough for
Speaker 1: a center now. But James and I don't grade players
Speaker 1: good or bad. Five six months, we do it. You
Speaker 1: can do it. I just can't do it. Um and
Speaker 1: people do do it. I got no problem with it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Like great him at the end of year
Speaker 1: one year, two year, three, year four and it changes.
Speaker 1: I think the best thing about him and big guys.
Speaker 1: You know, most big guys don't love basketball. In fact,
Speaker 1: they're they're se pet all. They played to the tall
Speaker 1: and you know, not on all of them, but many
Speaker 1: of them some yeah, decent representing some of the guys
Speaker 1: I did, like, it's not the most important thing in
Speaker 1: their life. It's a job, and it's a good job.
Speaker 1: Here's a lot of money, but they don't bleed it.
Speaker 1: They don't like need it. It's so it's like they
Speaker 1: grew up some coaches like, definitely basketball. You're six, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll just we'll go play basketball. You and I went,
Speaker 1: whether I was gonna be six ft or six five
Speaker 1: or six two or six eight, I was gonna play
Speaker 1: basketball wherever it ended, it ended. I just loved it. Um.
Speaker 1: But for him, he does love it, and I so far,
Speaker 1: he's shown he loves to work. And I've never met
Speaker 1: a player that has that talent and puts in the
Speaker 1: work that doesn't succeed. But he's gonna. He's gonna. Now
Speaker 1: he's hurt, so he's gonna put in the work and
Speaker 1: that's mental work, that's physical and and I think he'll
Speaker 1: put it all together. But it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: on him to put the time in. But I'm betting
Speaker 1: that he will. I think he will. So you see
Speaker 1: that he has that the obsessiveness. Yeah, if you were
Speaker 1: playing with him, you'd come over. Here's what you'd say,
Speaker 1: you say, do that guy's talented, but he's got to
Speaker 1: figure out the game a little bit better. And you
Speaker 1: but you would know like one skill. I think you
Speaker 1: knew innately how to play and what to do. Um,
Speaker 1: but you weren't seven ft tall with the vertical like
Speaker 1: that kind of weeks we don't get at all, Like
Speaker 1: we don't. So his part is he just got to
Speaker 1: learn and grow and play more. He's gotta play more
Speaker 1: basketball and he knows that. We know that. And so
Speaker 1: that's the hard part of the injury, wanting him to
Speaker 1: be able to play finished season, do summer league, because
Speaker 1: he didn't get smmer league, he didn't get training camp,
Speaker 1: and so that's the toughest part because he needs to
Speaker 1: be he needs to play. He needs to play basketball,
Speaker 1: so that that'll that'll be a key part of his group. Um. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: They've been playing well as of late, and you guys
Speaker 1: have been on this push to play for that playing spot.
Speaker 1: What do you guys got to do to close it
Speaker 1: out over the next you know, to the end of
Speaker 1: the season to be in a position. Um, we need Steph.
Speaker 1: I don't think we I don't know that we needed
Speaker 1: to score forty Maybe we do. Is this is this
Speaker 1: till he's got the tailbone. Is it Lincoln. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's that's he's he's over I mean that's pretty much
Speaker 1: in the past. It's maybe slightly there, but overall, he's good. Um,
Speaker 1: what we need to do. Play smart. We got a lot.
Speaker 1: We like a lot of teams. We used to have
Speaker 1: this huge margin for air, big margin when you had
Speaker 1: grant all these guys. We could play bad and win.
Speaker 1: We can't. We can't. Excuse me, we can't play bad
Speaker 1: and win. Now we play good. Um, the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league. A bad night still get some a
Speaker 1: w instead of winning by fifteen and went by five.
Speaker 1: We can't do that. So we gotta play well. We
Speaker 1: gotta show up. We gotta be a mentally prepayer. We've
Speaker 1: gotta give it an effort. And guys gotta make shots,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole deal. But but things don't go
Speaker 1: your way. You know, make mistakes, you're probably gonna lose.
Speaker 1: We just don't have that cushion without play on the team.
Speaker 1: But we we like our spot. Now we get a
Speaker 1: lot of games at home, Chris, we got we've been
Speaker 1: better at home. We got nine after tonight we played
Speaker 1: tonight in Washington. Um, we got nine and thirteen at home,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Hopefully we can keep the momentum going.
Speaker 1: And you guys, I think you guys will. Man, you
Speaker 1: guys are in a good spot as you sit there
Speaker 1: with your late show shirt on and you're like l
Speaker 1: a dog. I mean, that's just you don't have to pretend.
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending. I want to know about our competition.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, it's good. Tell me something,
Speaker 1: Tell me something. What is your absolute most favorite part
Speaker 1: about working in the NBA? The people, um, the people
Speaker 1: I met, and and competition, Like you know, I know
Speaker 1: you you like competition. Um, you get to compete. But
Speaker 1: but it's hard, man, because you lose a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: we want a lot. I got pretty lucky with that.
Speaker 1: But you know, you go home after loss, bad loss.
Speaker 1: You make mistakes. I made mistakes, do good things, to
Speaker 1: do bad things. Living with that stuff like not waking
Speaker 1: up at three in the morning. Um. But but when
Speaker 1: you do well and you make a good call, or
Speaker 1: you work with people you like, getting to know our coaches,
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve Kerr is gonna be a friend for life.
Speaker 1: And players i've met. Um. I told Draymond that he
Speaker 1: was talking about the day about a teammate, and I
Speaker 1: was like, why don't you call him? Because they had
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about something. I said, if you
Speaker 1: can't call him after all you've been through, then that's
Speaker 1: your fault. Then you got what do you what do
Speaker 1: you have? Then you've got rings sitting in your lock,
Speaker 1: in your in your safe And what is that? Like?
Speaker 1: If you and I and we I mean, if I
Speaker 1: didn't couldn't do this with you, what was the point?
Speaker 1: You know? If I can't see Charles or ed or
Speaker 1: this is that? Like, if I don't have a relationship
Speaker 1: with Lavin and coach Herrick, what was the point of
Speaker 1: it all? So? What? So what I can walk around
Speaker 1: like we were champions you talk to those guys. Ever, No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know any of them. I don't like
Speaker 1: those dudes. Like this is what people don't When we
Speaker 1: went seventy three and nine outside here and a lot,
Speaker 1: there's a banner we had the best record. I don't
Speaker 1: think that records can get broken, by the way, but
Speaker 1: we lost in championship. Many people, many people that's a failure.
Speaker 1: As a failure, you do win the championship, and I go,
Speaker 1: I listen to that because we're all vulnerable. I said it.
Speaker 1: I I don't think so. I said, that's pretty hard
Speaker 1: to put a team together. It's gonna more win more
Speaker 1: regular these games in the history of the NBA. And
Speaker 1: I said, it's hard to do. And then I was
Speaker 1: telling our coach. I said to Steve, I said, I
Speaker 1: get to decide what that means, right like you and
Speaker 1: I get to decide what that you say championship means.
Speaker 1: You get to decide what it means for you. I
Speaker 1: get to decide what it means for me. That's all
Speaker 1: the matters. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about it,
Speaker 1: except for what you think about it when I think
Speaker 1: about it. But what I think about any success is
Speaker 1: the people. Like in ten years, if I if I
Speaker 1: say that restaurant, you're I'm sitting down with you. What's up?
Speaker 1: What are you up to? Remember this? Remember that if
Speaker 1: we hated each other or I didn't know you or
Speaker 1: get to know you, then what the hell is it?
Speaker 1: So it's the relationships, Chris, It's not I don't have
Speaker 1: a picture on my house, I don't have a trophy wall,
Speaker 1: I got nothing. I got the fact that if I
Speaker 1: need to talk to you. I can pick up the
Speaker 1: phone and talk to Kevin or Steph or Clay or
Speaker 1: Draymond or Steve or anybody, David West, who play anybody.
Speaker 1: I can do that. That the gift other than that money.
Speaker 1: You're not kidding. It must be nice. I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 1: I just got a couple more questions. I know you've
Speaker 1: got thanks to do, um, just as far as how
Speaker 1: and I know that you probably I probably know the
Speaker 1: answer to this. But will the Warriors win another NBA
Speaker 1: championship in the next five years? Oh boy, I hope so. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get lucky. You gotta be healthy. UM. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. We have guys that have They know the way.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? They know the way? That matters. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a big when you haven't ever done it, you
Speaker 1: always wonder if you can and does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Like if you were a college coach, you can look
Speaker 1: at the team that guys have done it. I've been
Speaker 1: a part of it. I know what it takes. That's powerful,
Speaker 1: UM to have the most important thing is to have
Speaker 1: players that have done it. Because I can promise you
Speaker 1: there's so many moments in the journey where it's it
Speaker 1: could fall off. But one year we were down twice
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference Finals Game six and seven to Houston.
Speaker 1: Good Houston teams by ten a halftime and people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you were just better. No, no, if our fabric was weaker,
Speaker 1: we lose one of those games, and people like, how
Speaker 1: do you know? I go? I walked in the locker
Speaker 1: room and a half time I look around. No panic,
Speaker 1: no blame, no letting go of the rope. So Chris, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can picture a championship again because of
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, played Thompson, Draymond Green. I know who they
Speaker 1: are in those championship moments. They ain't gonna They're not.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even need praising them. You've seen
Speaker 1: it too. You know who they betting on that. Now.
Speaker 1: Look people say you get older and said, I'm still
Speaker 1: betting on them. You guys, stay healthy, but nobody would
Speaker 1: want to play. You gotta beat those. It's like a boxer, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta knock him out. He's not gonna throw in
Speaker 1: the town. You gotta knock him out. And it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long heavy heavyweight fight. It's gonna last clove
Speaker 1: rounds and you know what, we'll see, We'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet against you guys. That's for dango full
Speaker 1: strength of full strength. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah. Um, we'll
Speaker 1: see you now, we'll see, we'll see what's you guys.
Speaker 1: Luck although you know we're over here with you. You
Speaker 1: see what you're wearing. But I got I got one
Speaker 1: more question and then I'll let you know. Um, the
Speaker 1: George Floyd Child the trial, Derek Shot found guilty. Um,
Speaker 1: the NBA and your organization have been, you know, very
Speaker 1: outspoken about their support and advocacy against situations like this
Speaker 1: from happening. Talk a little bit about that, the community
Speaker 1: involvement of the words organization and just comments on this,
Speaker 1: the trial and where we are as a nation. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we're better than we were, but we're not. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're good enough. Um, we all you know, we
Speaker 1: all have to acknowledge how far we have to go?
Speaker 1: Is That was what I would say. And that starts
Speaker 1: with making decisions like it starts with holding people accountaboo,
Speaker 1: and it starts with being honest, And it starts with
Speaker 1: raising your hand and saying I need to know more,
Speaker 1: I need to do more. Um. I heard a great
Speaker 1: story where I was talking to a guy knowing our community,
Speaker 1: who I've reached out to locally to understand rates better. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: I could talk to you and you could be like
Speaker 1: I used to talk to Igdala on our team and
Speaker 1: he's like, have you ever walked into a store and
Speaker 1: felt like people were looking like you're gonna steal something?
Speaker 1: And I was like no, And he goes, you know
Speaker 1: how many times that's happened to me? And you maybe
Speaker 1: you'd say, wow, you understand what a gift that is,
Speaker 1: Like you getting the elevator, the woman grabs her purse,
Speaker 1: you know what that feels like. I'd be like no.
Speaker 1: So so there's that, But the other part is there's
Speaker 1: understanding how life works and how it is and and
Speaker 1: just having that knowledge and trying to be better at that.
Speaker 1: But then there's moments where this guy was telling me
Speaker 1: his wife was in a law school class and they
Speaker 1: were the professor was teaching a course on property and
Speaker 1: he showed a scene I think from Amistad where he
Speaker 1: referenced slaves people as property and it was so um
Speaker 1: irresponsible and so wrong on every level, and she wished,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, she's she's a black woman that she had
Speaker 1: had to strength to raise her hand and say this
Speaker 1: is bullshit, like you can't do this, like this is wrong,
Speaker 1: Like why are you doing this? Why are you showing
Speaker 1: this scene like this isn't right, this isn't good, Like
Speaker 1: don't use this as an example of probably this is bad.
Speaker 1: And she said, but the next step is why didn't
Speaker 1: any of my classmates white, black, round Why didn't they
Speaker 1: raise their hands and say it's wrong? And that really
Speaker 1: hit me with like being not guilty of doing something
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're not guilty. Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 1: do you understand like being an observer as is not enough.
Speaker 1: You have to be a participant, right, And so I've
Speaker 1: learned from an organizational standpipe from an individual standpoint, just
Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm racist, that's not enough understand
Speaker 1: Like that's not enough for me, that's not enough for society. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. I like black people. That
Speaker 1: that's pathetic if you think about like that's not it.
Speaker 1: So learning individually that it takes a step forward, right,
Speaker 1: Like standing still, Chris, even if I'm not doing anything
Speaker 1: wrong is wrong. So I think what we've all learned.
Speaker 1: I hope is at least that like this ain't gonna
Speaker 1: change ange you as a black guy and as a
Speaker 1: black community. It's not fair for me to go you
Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. It's fair for you to be
Speaker 1: like can we get some fucking help? Can you help me?
Speaker 1: Like we're not the majority here, like can you can
Speaker 1: you help me here? So I think once we all
Speaker 1: have woken up to that, then it becomes about what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? So for us, it's programs in
Speaker 1: our community, it's it's educating ourselves, it's giving opportunities, it's
Speaker 1: putting black people in leadership, it's all the things we
Speaker 1: all have to do a better job of. Um. And
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on. But in
Speaker 1: the in the trap specifically, like yeah, that's the like
Speaker 1: you should pay for you that, I mean obviously you
Speaker 1: know that's justice served. I mean, that's that's that's it's
Speaker 1: so sad that it's you shouldn't take a death why
Speaker 1: a death? Like a death is not correct. It's not death,
Speaker 1: is sir. It's done like you can't it doesn't change
Speaker 1: this punishment doesn't bring someone back to life. That's the
Speaker 1: hard part. Um. But yeah, we all gotta I appreciate
Speaker 1: you asking about it, but we'll have a long way
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, we do, and I think we'll get there.
Speaker 1: But like you say, it's gonna take everyone and not
Speaker 1: just you know, standing around. We need active participants to
Speaker 1: get the job done. But bye, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for you today, My man. God, just come to a game.
Speaker 1: Come to a game up here. I would like to,
Speaker 1: but when I wear that, but whenever I come up there,
Speaker 1: you never invite me anywhere? Don't. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: put you in the I can't put you in the
Speaker 1: gym with something like that. I'm not gonna wear this
Speaker 1: if I come up to the You can wear a
Speaker 1: Dodger's hat if you want, okay, but that that might
Speaker 1: get me beat up though, So I got Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: pretty nice. It's not that you know, they're l A fans.
Speaker 1: Don't beat jump either. We're not to las man. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a nice society. It's a good, good deal of
Speaker 1: let's take it to your expense too. Yeah, we've involved, Yeah, evolved, evolved.
Speaker 1: So what's good talking to you? Chris? You're talking to
Speaker 1: you're talking about gets identity,