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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Silis and Chris

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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment in the stray. Now here's Chris Johnson. Good afternoon everyone,

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Speaker 1: This is Chris Johnson. You are now tuned into kJ Live.

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Speaker 1: Today's guests on the show. Three time NBA Champion executive,

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Speaker 1: two times NBA Executive of the Year, the President of

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Speaker 1: Basketball Operations and general manager of the Golden State Warriors,

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Speaker 1: none other than Bob Myers is in the building. Bob,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Man, it's a it's a pleasure and

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Speaker 1: honor my friend. Uh never thought I'd be doing a

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Speaker 1: podcast with you. I mean, it's a long day. It's

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Speaker 1: a long way from our days back at u c

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Speaker 1: l A lockers next to each other, and you always

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Speaker 1: complained about stuff I was doing in life. But uh, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll touch on that in a little bit. That later.

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Speaker 1: We'll touch at a little bit, Bob. So, So, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to start the show off, like I do with

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Speaker 1: all of our guests. Okay, we want to give our

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Speaker 1: audience and our listeners an idea of who the person is,

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Speaker 1: the foundation that made the man or the woman for

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Speaker 1: that matter, souse. I've had female guests on the show

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Speaker 1: into the person they are today. UM, I just want

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Speaker 1: to know where you're born, city, the neighborhood, and how

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Speaker 1: did that community impact you sort of who you worked

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Speaker 1: are today? Um? So yeah, born and raised East Bay.

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Speaker 1: We were joking before I came on. I was a

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Speaker 1: Warrior's fan growing up. So that's uh, that's a little

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Speaker 1: known factor, maybe well known. I grew up in a

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Speaker 1: nutshell Chris white, middle class, you know, basic basic two parents,

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Speaker 1: parents still together, fifty years married, and backyard with a

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Speaker 1: basketball hoop and the pool. And you know why is

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Speaker 1: that relevant? It's not really. Um. The longer I've lived,

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Speaker 1: of the more I appreciate the saneness of my upbringing,

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Speaker 1: the normalcy, the more people I meet, even when you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the locker, we're skipping a step.

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Speaker 1: But sitting next to you and and judging how you

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Speaker 1: would act after practice and who you were, I've realized, like,

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Speaker 1: that's not fair, Um, because I presumed you were raised

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Speaker 1: like I was, which was dumb, right, that was naive,

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Speaker 1: But no one you now and and stuff we've never

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Speaker 1: even talked about. Um. I have a better understanding of

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Speaker 1: people and you and kind of like for me to

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Speaker 1: think people get to have what I had is really,

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Speaker 1: um pretty dumb on my part. So I had for

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Speaker 1: the people listening, I didn't have, you know, nothing was

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Speaker 1: given to me professionally, and I wasn't born into a

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Speaker 1: bunch of wealth. But as far as a chance to

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Speaker 1: succeed in life, I had that, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: and haven't gone into play is just like saying, Quentin

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Speaker 1: and played with those guys and basketball and seeing hearing

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Speaker 1: a little bit about their upbringing makes you really um

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Speaker 1: appreciate what I have and it also wakes you up

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Speaker 1: to life and that what I had is not you know,

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Speaker 1: my idea of normal. Many people don't have that. But Bob,

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Speaker 1: you only know what you know. You know, so you

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Speaker 1: can't blame You can't blame people like yourself that grew

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Speaker 1: up a certain way because that's where you live, just

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Speaker 1: like you can't blame folks that grew up, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the other side of tacks. But they get blamed, Chris,

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Speaker 1: that's the difference. Though. They get blamed, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, And we can go down at a different time.

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Speaker 1: But that's where I agree with you. But but you

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Speaker 1: may have a better understanding of that than I even do.

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Speaker 1: You may not blame him, but speaking from like what

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Speaker 1: I the stuff I'm around, like people do understand like

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Speaker 1: when we give a prisoner a chance to former inmate,

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Speaker 1: that could call our game. I don't if you saw, um,

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Speaker 1: Why would you help X? And why would you help

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Speaker 1: people that would say that and judge like, why would

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Speaker 1: you help somebody? And somebody asked me, I said, why

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Speaker 1: can't anybody get a second chance or a third? You know?

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Speaker 1: So anyways, we're going off the script, but any that

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Speaker 1: If I'm driving anywhere or walking around a bike, and

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Speaker 1: I would do it for free, and I would do

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Speaker 1: and I think that won't change, and that hasn't changed

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Speaker 1: for me. It's a little harder Chris in the position

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Speaker 1: Like if you and I went to watch a movie

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Speaker 1: and you directed it and produced it and started it,

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Speaker 1: you go, you have it. They couldn't pay me much

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Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to get paid, and they cut out

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Speaker 1: it would have been better. So I can't watch the game,

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Speaker 1: at least the pro game. That's why when we can

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Speaker 1: talk about U c l A. My best moments of

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Speaker 1: Um longs backs that can remember love the game. The

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Speaker 1: So so then he says walk on and then I

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Speaker 1: And you were you were year younger, so you weren't there.

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Speaker 1: So what we did was for a month, and you

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Speaker 1: for a month. I conditioned with Ed and all these

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Speaker 1: memories I'll hold on to the rest of my life. Man,

428
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Speaker 1: Just the moments with us, the drive to the movie premier,

429
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Speaker 1: you know, the riding of the Jay Little show, you know,

430
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Speaker 1: those experiences on the bus, man are the ones you

431
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: always will rever. I want to talk about how your

432
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Speaker 1: experience with Armed, your experience at Wasserman for fourteen years

433
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Speaker 1: is one of the top agents in the game. How

434
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Speaker 1: did that prepare you for the for to be elevated

435
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Speaker 1: to the GM of the Warriors after only a year? Um,

436
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: because you went in April too? What was the two

437
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: eleven April too? And did that stuff with Arnt and

438
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: Wasserman and that experience prepared you any or is it

439
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: not even related? No? No? And prepared me? I mean,

440
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: I think it's so much of it prepared to me.

441
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: There's a life of the NBA is not real, right,

442
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: it's not people listen. It is a different world, you know.

443
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: It's almost like being on a movie set all the time.

444
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: It's not relatable. So when you're talking about the business

445
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: of it, there's so much money and a star. You've

446
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: been around stars right in your life, whether it's an actor,

447
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: they're different, man, And it's not it's nothing against that,

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: but like the way we treat celebrities athletes, it's not

449
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: their fault. They're different. So so why do I bring

450
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: that up. There's a relatability, there's a way to communicate,

451
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: there's an empathy, there's an understanding, there's wealth, there's all

452
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: these things that growing up in the agent side of

453
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: things immersed me and kind of like, what is this world?

454
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Speaker 1: How does this world move? If that makes sense? I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: obviously it moves a lot with money. Arne was great

456
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: because he was relentless and he was smart, and so

457
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: I got to learn these traits of he. He I mean,

458
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: aren't taught me you don't wait for a return phone call? Right?

459
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: I was never understood that, right, yeah? Right? Did Chris

460
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: call you back? No? I called him and be like,

461
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Speaker 1: why did you call him? Bay? So he didn't were

462
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Speaker 1: you talking about you reach? I told you to get

463
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Speaker 1: a hold of him. I didn't tell you leave a message.

464
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I told you to talk to him. And so I

465
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: learned that no boss demanding or or successful. Once the

466
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: reason why you didn't do something they want you to

467
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Speaker 1: do what they told you to do, and being young

468
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: and having to call Jerry West and asked him if

469
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Speaker 1: he would consider taking Johnnie McCoy the second around, and

470
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Speaker 1: he didn't call me back, And I gotta called Jerry

471
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Speaker 1: West back even though he didn't call. Isn't he does

472
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Speaker 1: he really want to talk to me? Like? What aren't

473
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Speaker 1: I bothering him? Uh? So I had to learn the

474
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Speaker 1: the part of you're You're not that important, You're not

475
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Speaker 1: nothing's beneath you, um and that there is h no

476
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: boundaries to that, to this profession, that even that I'm

477
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: in now, there's no structure. It's just all in all

478
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Speaker 1: the time, and so you learn how it operates. And

479
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: that taught me that and also taught me you know,

480
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: in some ways. I guess if I had to translate

481
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Speaker 1: it to what I do now, what kind of player

482
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Speaker 1: might be the winning kind of player? You know, like

483
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: you won, right you won in your career. You want

484
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: like if it's a pickup game right now, your team

485
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: is probably gonna win, Like you win. It doesn't matter

486
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: how you do it, but you do it. And you

487
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: see people that have that mindset and by the way.

488
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: They don't. They're not always the most normal people, right,

489
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Speaker 1: Like Kobe. You know, God rest his soul, but that

490
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: that guy at dinner like you, you might be like, dude,

491
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Speaker 1: I gotta get up and go like he wants to

492
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Speaker 1: every every conversation, the competition. And I'd say, because that's

493
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Speaker 1: kind of who he is. When I was taking the

494
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Speaker 1: else at one year to get into law school, I

495
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: remember he was shooting. He was with the Diadas at

496
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: the time, and I was sitting on the side practicing,

497
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Speaker 1: like we talked about, I was. I was working on

498
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: my else set because he said, you want to be

499
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Speaker 1: in this movie. I mean this commercial and I think

500
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Nigel is doing it. Remember you know who's casting it, Yeah,

501
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: Nigel and so so I was sitting and you know

502
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: you've probably done this too. There's not really any They're

503
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: just waiting. I'm waiting for my two seconds to play

504
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: in this game and they cut and film or whatever.

505
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Speaker 1: So I have a bunch of free time and Kobe,

506
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Speaker 1: what's going what do you because he's always he was

507
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: always angling like what's going on? Like like Jordan, Michael

508
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: Jordan's same way, Like you watch Last Dance. He's always

509
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: surveying the room, like where where's the competence. That's why

510
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: he had to play cards all the time, and golf

511
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: like his whole life game like competition. Kobe is the

512
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: same way. So he'd be like, what are you doing?

513
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Speaker 1: And I said, I'm practiced for the el stat Let

514
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Speaker 1: me see that. I said, Kobe, you can't just do this.

515
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Speaker 1: You can't just pick it up and do it. There's

516
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Speaker 1: methods to how you learn these things like that. It

517
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: was a math problem. It's called a logic game for

518
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Speaker 1: people that are listening. And went to law school and

519
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: he said, let me try it, and I said, all right, fine.

520
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: I said, there's a practice test do it. And it

521
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: was about five questions you get twenty five minutes or something.

522
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Speaker 1: And so I watched him do it. He wasn't doing

523
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Speaker 1: it the way you're supposed. He wasn't doing it anyway, right,

524
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: he was just doing it in his own head. So

525
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: we check his answers and he finishes like in fifteen minutes.

526
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Speaker 1: I go, Cob, he didn't even use all the time.

527
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: He said, all right, whatever. So we checked his answers

528
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Speaker 1: and he got one right out of five, and I go,

529
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Speaker 1: see what I'm talking about He goes, yeah, see I

530
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: got one right. What if I had more time to

531
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: study like you, I've got them all right? You know,

532
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: but that's how this guy thought and fix and you're

533
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, that's why he was great. That's why

534
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: he was great, and that's why you understand greatness. If

535
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 1: you're around greatness, you see it. You don't have to

536
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: even identify because that's not how I am. But I

537
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: think some part of that knowledge of working around players

538
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: and learning it and negotiating it probably helped. So I wasn't.

539
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: So when Raymond Green goes off on our coach or

540
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: something like that, you can go down and say, Drayma,

541
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And not because you know, Chris,

542
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: most people act like idiots when they're around professional They

543
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. Not you. But you know,

544
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: if Steph Curry was sitting here, like, hey, steph, uh

545
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: would it like to shoot so many threes? And they'd

546
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: be like, what are you talking about? Like who are

547
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: you what? They don't Yeah, they don't have to say, right,

548
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? If step could? You know? So?

549
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: So it's not even their fault, but you learn you

550
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: have to break down those barriers to have to lead

551
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: my position, have to lead to talk to Steve Kerr,

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: like you learn you're around it so much like you

553
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: your dad, you know, like you the people you met

554
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: growing up. The NBA is not an intimidating thing for you,

555
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: Like it's just your life. Like people say, why does

556
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: step Curry played Thompson because their dad played in the NBA.

557
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: It's nothing to them, you know, Like do you if

558
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: you played in the NBA, sure you would have loved

559
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: it and like, but but it wasn't like this mythical place.

560
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, my dad played the NBA. Yeah, it's great,

561
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: but those guys are the same as you, me and

562
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: everybody else. It is really good at basketball. So anyways,

563
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Speaker 1: hi help. Wow, No, that's that's an amazing answer, Bob.

564
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: I like when you do this. I've watched a couple

565
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: of your interviews that you've done, and you've really grew

566
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: grown into a guy that's really thoughtful and mindful. And

567
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I just really respect you, my man, I really respect.

568
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you though, what it was like. You know,

569
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: you guys signed Katie, So you have three basically Hall

570
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: of Famers or four four, I don't know, whatever they

571
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: used to say, what do you want to argue? But whatever?

572
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: They whatever, they used to say, how difficult was it

573
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: to manage those different egos and status is on that

574
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: type of team? Yeah, I mean it wasn't It wasn't.

575
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: It depends on See, there's guys on our team that

576
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: all those guys that were on the team had individually

577
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: done at all, right, like m v P, Grant steph Um,

578
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: championships for some of our guys, money all of them,

579
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: money has money, respect, all Star games, all NBA, all

580
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: that stuff. So now it's kind of like what do

581
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: you do when you put it all together? And what's

582
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: the goal? And I think the goal for those guys,

583
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: because they've done it all just to win, right, Let's

584
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: go win the championship. It's one as many as we can.

585
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: The hard part with all of it is when and

586
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't not like I don't I don't say this

587
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: to degrade the media, but media is powerful and people

588
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: are insecure. We're all insecure. So when you start pressing

589
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: buttons like well, the reason you cel a one was

590
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: was just that O'Bannon like that, you know, if you're

591
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: on that team and your TIS or your Charles you

592
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: know that. You're kind of like, I kind of did

593
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: some stuff too. But but but then you go to

594
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: the media, doesn't know what they're talking about because I

595
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: know I helped. But then your buddy goes, hey man,

596
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: why are they giving it all the critics And you go,

597
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good good dude, And you're like,

598
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: but but don't you think you should be getting more?

599
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: And you go, well, yeah, but we're winning. And then

600
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: your wife or your parents like, hey man, they wrote

601
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: an article that said you're umbers are down. It's all that.

602
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: It's all that. Like I talked about Igodala and we

603
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: Steve came in her and brought it, decided to bring

604
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: him off the bench, and I said for people to

605
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: understand that. So you're a starter, you want a limp

606
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: the gold medal, you've been an All Star, and a

607
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: new coach who's never coach says you gotta call the bench.

608
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: It ain't accepting that decision. It's accepting that decision in

609
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: a very public way. So you're a Goodala and I've

610
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: talked to Andrew about this. Hey, you go home that night,

611
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: espn Idala set to come off the bench, and you

612
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: look at it, and you're like, whatever, A little big deal.

613
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. Then your wife they're

614
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: bringing off the bench Chris, and you go, yeah, I

615
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: mean coach, you know, really aren't you. Aren't you one

616
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: of the best players? Aren't you like the top five? Yeah?

617
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: I am, but you know, huh, all right, good night.

618
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: And then you're going to bed. You're going ship should

619
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: I be? Should be okay with it? And then and

620
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: then I'm interviewing you after the game on the local

621
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: go beat writer. Hey, Chris there bringing off the bench,

622
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: like microphone's on. You are okay with this role I

623
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: mean new coach and you go yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

624
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: what coach wants to know. Then I turn off the microphone. Chris,

625
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: come on, man, this kind of sucked up and you

626
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: go no, no, So there's all these chances for you

627
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, man is fucked up because I should

628
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: be stunned. But you don't do it. You don't do it.

629
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: And in the NBA Finals we're down to one coach,

630
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: caps on the shoulder goes, I need you to start now,

631
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: and you're ready to go because you didn't feed in

632
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: to the negativity and all the noise. So when he

633
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: did say I need you to start. You go out

634
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: and win finals m v P. That is hard to do, right,

635
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: So for people, I'm not even saying I could do

636
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Speaker 1: something for people in success to not. It's why TV

637
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: shows get canceled because their success success and all it's

638
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: and you're making more than me, or or you get

639
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: to stand in front when we get the Emmy. Why

640
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: can't I that's the problem. So it's hard. Yeah, yeah,

641
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: it's people. But I don't blame it was all good.

642
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I think it was great. No bad, like one guy

643
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: did this wrong or that. It's just life, just how

644
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: it goes. It's hard to keep stuff together when you

645
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: have success and you guys have done it. I mean,

646
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: I've been surprised how well you've actually managed everything up there.

647
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: It's it's difficult, and these guys are good. You got

648
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: some really good players Steph Curry, arguably, I want your

649
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: opinion on this. Do you think he's the greatest point

650
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: guard ever? What is the point Like, I'm not I'm

651
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: not trying to not answer the question. I don't know

652
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: what a point guard is anymore. Well, it's so okay,

653
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: how about we say what do we call him a guard.

654
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: Do we call him? Well, I don't know what do

655
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: we call the problem? I don't know, Like, okay, you

656
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: should probably should come a point guard. I'll tell you

657
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: what um he besides maybe a Magic Johnson which you

658
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: grew up watching so did I you're a basketball player,

659
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: I can to your basketball there. Thank you. As far

660
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: as messing you up on both sides of the ball, Chris,

661
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: he nobody probably ever would mess out with your head

662
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: more than he does. I don't know. I think that's

663
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: a compliment, Like I've played pick up with it. It's

664
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. What does he do? He changes the whole

665
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: you were watch. First of all, if you're on defense,

666
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: you're watching him, you are you're supposed to keep like

667
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: one eye on the ball, one on your man, right,

668
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: So it's fun. It's so hard not to watch him

669
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: because he can do things that don't make sense at

670
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: a distance, that don't make sense, and then people forget

671
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: when he gets around the rim. His finishing percentages are unbelieving.

672
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: His his ability around the rim to finish for a

673
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't do with power athleticism. He he messes

674
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: you up because he's the guy that if you're playing

675
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: pick up against he makes a shot and you go, yeah, yeah,

676
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you can't live on that, like he ain't making that again,

677
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: and he does it again and again and again, and

678
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: then and you go, yeah, I dude, had a lucky day.

679
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: And then you show up at the pick up again

680
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: the next day and he busts you again and and

681
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: you and finally, as an athlete and as a competitor,

682
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: you go, I don't know what to do with this, dude.

683
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: There's not many guys in the history of our game

684
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: where they leave the competition shaking their head being like,

685
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I have no answer for this. And he does that,

686
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: and magic maybe in a different way, like magic physically guarding,

687
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: magic physically different. Here's the thing, okay, Steph to me,

688
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: the way he moves without the ball, so it's the

689
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: movement without the ball is probably the greatest I've ever

690
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: seen at it the jukes to get open and then

691
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: from the catch to the up. It's just like how

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: how does say you know what it is like if

693
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: you look at if you watch them like in our

694
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: practice stility out behind me, if you watch him shoot

695
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: the motion, it's not claim has got the picture perfect

696
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: motion like play does. Steps, steps is different. Like it's

697
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: like it's like plays is like and plays as good

698
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: as you can get with what you're talking about. What

699
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: is getting it off fast? Plays like here here, like

700
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: here here like so but us is all one motion

701
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: and so soft and like it's to watch him do it.

702
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how you teach it or duplicated and

703
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the ways if you looked at how many different you're

704
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: taught to shoot squared up the same way, so different

705
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: ways he shoots and angles and speed of release, that's

706
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: what doesn't make sense. Bob off the bounce. I mean

707
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: for him to be doing that thirty feet out, all

708
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: the combos and then just step back up fake you

709
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: know he didn't, you know, but just like it's just

710
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: like I can't believe it's it's years and years of

711
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: this to make this. He's just you know, and and

712
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. If you were

713
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: guarding him, here's the other thing you would do. You

714
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: would there'd be a dead ball and you'd be you'd

715
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: be like, dude, would you just stop moving? Like just

716
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: stop like because it's hard enough to go on a

717
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: guy like that with the ball, But the second he

718
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: passes the ball, he's gone like he's often going. And

719
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: that's as a defender, even if you're playing against somebody

720
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: that can't do what he does. We all it's easier

721
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: to guard a guy that's just sitting there. But when

722
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: he's moving the way he does, you're kind of like, dude,

723
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you're stopped, like you're bothering. Stop moving so much. And

724
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: the thing about it, too, is everybody's gearing up for him,

725
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: so you know, the whole league, the whole league has

726
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: some type of gimmick and you guys have adjusted the

727
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: creative offensively. I mean, it's been unbelievable. Um yeah, quick update,

728
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Quick update on Clay Thompson injury. How's he doing? Yeah,

729
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: he's a good Today. I walk in the facility and

730
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: he's he's rehabbing as achilles and he says, um, I said,

731
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And he's got on his uh

732
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: on the on on this floor of his right from

733
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: his locker all his fan mail and he goes, bro,

734
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm responding to fan mail man. He's like, I've never

735
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: done this before, and he was kind of laughing like

736
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: this this superstar life, you know, playing every game iron Man.

737
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: And now he's he can't obviously can't play this year.

738
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: He's It's kind of like a moment, a full cycle

739
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: of life. Like you come up, you get all this

740
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: fan mail, you I don't got time for this, you

741
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: don't read it, you don't look at it. And then

742
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: as you get older and wiser in life obviously stopped

743
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: for him athletically you start reading it and you're like,

744
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: all right, I got time for this now. So he's good.

745
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: He's a great dude. He's um play like like I

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: talked about the mbiate, Clay respects the game like he

747
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: respects the game. And I said, I said, when he

748
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: got hurt again, uh Achilles, I said, I think people

749
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to say the only two, but

750
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I think from being around the league, he him and

751
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Derrick Rose, I said, are the two most respected players.

752
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever got a problem with play. How he plays,

753
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: how he competes, how he lives, how he talks. He

754
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: every player in the NBA will want to play with

755
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: play Thoms. You can't say that about every player. I

756
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: don't care. Like even with Steps, sometimes people have people

757
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: hate on Step. Nobody hates on Clay, which is a compliments.

758
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: But he's doing all right. He's rehabbing and James Wiseman,

759
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I know he just went down with the meniscus, but

760
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: his progress this season. You guys took him at the

761
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: number two overall pick, had some other options. You're happy

762
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: with his progress this season? Yeah, no, I mean you

763
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: always have options, but James is Yeah. I mean it's

764
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: a long game, right, I mean, and it's tough for

765
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: a center now. But James and I don't grade players

766
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: good or bad. Five six months, we do it. You

767
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: can do it. I just can't do it. Um and

768
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: people do do it. I got no problem with it.

769
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: It's fine. Like great him at the end of year

770
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: one year, two year, three, year four and it changes.

771
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: I think the best thing about him and big guys.

772
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, most big guys don't love basketball. In fact,

773
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: they're they're se pet all. They played to the tall

774
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: and you know, not on all of them, but many

775
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: of them some yeah, decent representing some of the guys

776
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: I did, like, it's not the most important thing in

777
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: their life. It's a job, and it's a good job.

778
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Here's a lot of money, but they don't bleed it.

779
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: They don't like need it. It's so it's like they

780
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: grew up some coaches like, definitely basketball. You're six, okay,

781
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: I'll just we'll go play basketball. You and I went,

782
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: whether I was gonna be six ft or six five

783
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: or six two or six eight, I was gonna play

784
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: basketball wherever it ended, it ended. I just loved it. Um.

785
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: But for him, he does love it, and I so far,

786
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: he's shown he loves to work. And I've never met

787
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: a player that has that talent and puts in the

788
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: work that doesn't succeed. But he's gonna. He's gonna. Now

789
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: he's hurt, so he's gonna put in the work and

790
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: that's mental work, that's physical and and I think he'll

791
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: put it all together. But it's gonna be a lot

792
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: on him to put the time in. But I'm betting

793
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: that he will. I think he will. So you see

794
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: that he has that the obsessiveness. Yeah, if you were

795
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: playing with him, you'd come over. Here's what you'd say,

796
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: you say, do that guy's talented, but he's got to

797
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: figure out the game a little bit better. And you

798
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: but you would know like one skill. I think you

799
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: knew innately how to play and what to do. Um,

800
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: but you weren't seven ft tall with the vertical like

801
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: that kind of weeks we don't get at all, Like

802
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: we don't. So his part is he just got to

803
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: learn and grow and play more. He's gotta play more

804
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: basketball and he knows that. We know that. And so

805
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: that's the hard part of the injury, wanting him to

806
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: be able to play finished season, do summer league, because

807
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: he didn't get smmer league, he didn't get training camp,

808
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: and so that's the toughest part because he needs to

809
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: be he needs to play. He needs to play basketball,

810
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: so that that'll that'll be a key part of his group. Um. Absolutely,

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00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: They've been playing well as of late, and you guys

816
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: have been on this push to play for that playing spot.

817
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: What do you guys got to do to close it

818
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: out over the next you know, to the end of

819
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: the season to be in a position. Um, we need Steph.

820
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we I don't know that we needed

821
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: to score forty Maybe we do. Is this is this

822
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: till he's got the tailbone. Is it Lincoln. Yeah, but

823
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: that's that's he's he's over I mean that's pretty much

824
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: in the past. It's maybe slightly there, but overall, he's good. Um,

825
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: what we need to do. Play smart. We got a lot.

826
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: We like a lot of teams. We used to have

827
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: this huge margin for air, big margin when you had

828
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: grant all these guys. We could play bad and win.

829
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: We can't. We can't. Excuse me, we can't play bad

830
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: and win. Now we play good. Um, the best teams

831
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: in the league. A bad night still get some a

832
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: w instead of winning by fifteen and went by five.

833
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: We can't do that. So we gotta play well. We

834
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: gotta show up. We gotta be a mentally prepayer. We've

835
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: gotta give it an effort. And guys gotta make shots,

836
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, the whole deal. But but things don't go

837
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: your way. You know, make mistakes, you're probably gonna lose.

838
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: We just don't have that cushion without play on the team.

839
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: But we we like our spot. Now we get a

840
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of games at home, Chris, we got we've been

841
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: better at home. We got nine after tonight we played

842
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: tonight in Washington. Um, we got nine and thirteen at home,

843
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Hopefully we can keep the momentum going.

844
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: And you guys, I think you guys will. Man, you

845
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: guys are in a good spot as you sit there

846
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: with your late show shirt on and you're like l

847
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: a dog. I mean, that's just you don't have to pretend.

848
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending. I want to know about our competition.

849
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, it's good. Tell me something,

850
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: Tell me something. What is your absolute most favorite part

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: about working in the NBA? The people, um, the people

852
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I met, and and competition, Like you know, I know

853
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you you like competition. Um, you get to compete. But

854
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: but it's hard, man, because you lose a lot. I mean,

855
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: we want a lot. I got pretty lucky with that.

856
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: But you know, you go home after loss, bad loss.

857
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: You make mistakes. I made mistakes, do good things, to

858
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: do bad things. Living with that stuff like not waking

859
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: up at three in the morning. Um. But but when

860
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: you do well and you make a good call, or

861
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: you work with people you like, getting to know our coaches,

862
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve Kerr is gonna be a friend for life.

863
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: And players i've met. Um. I told Draymond that he

864
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: was talking about the day about a teammate, and I

865
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: was like, why don't you call him? Because they had

866
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about something. I said, if you

867
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: can't call him after all you've been through, then that's

868
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: your fault. Then you got what do you what do

869
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: you have? Then you've got rings sitting in your lock,

870
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: in your in your safe And what is that? Like?

871
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: If you and I and we I mean, if I

872
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: didn't couldn't do this with you, what was the point?

873
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: You know? If I can't see Charles or ed or

874
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: this is that? Like, if I don't have a relationship

875
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: with Lavin and coach Herrick, what was the point of

876
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: it all? So? What? So what I can walk around

877
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: like we were champions you talk to those guys. Ever, No,

878
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know any of them. I don't like

879
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: those dudes. Like this is what people don't When we

880
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: went seventy three and nine outside here and a lot,

881
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: there's a banner we had the best record. I don't

882
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: think that records can get broken, by the way, but

883
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: we lost in championship. Many people, many people that's a failure.

884
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: As a failure, you do win the championship, and I go,

885
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: I listen to that because we're all vulnerable. I said it.

886
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I I don't think so. I said, that's pretty hard

887
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: to put a team together. It's gonna more win more

888
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: regular these games in the history of the NBA. And

889
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: I said, it's hard to do. And then I was

890
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: telling our coach. I said to Steve, I said, I

891
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: get to decide what that means, right like you and

892
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: I get to decide what that you say championship means.

893
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: You get to decide what it means for you. I

894
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: get to decide what it means for me. That's all

895
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: the matters. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about it,

896
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: except for what you think about it when I think

897
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: about it. But what I think about any success is

898
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: the people. Like in ten years, if I if I

899
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: say that restaurant, you're I'm sitting down with you. What's up?

900
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: What are you up to? Remember this? Remember that if

901
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: we hated each other or I didn't know you or

902
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: get to know you, then what the hell is it?

903
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: So it's the relationships, Chris, It's not I don't have

904
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: a picture on my house, I don't have a trophy wall,

905
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I got nothing. I got the fact that if I

906
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: need to talk to you. I can pick up the

907
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: phone and talk to Kevin or Steph or Clay or

908
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: Draymond or Steve or anybody, David West, who play anybody.

909
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: I can do that. That the gift other than that money.

910
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: You're not kidding. It must be nice. I'm joking. I'm joking.

911
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I just got a couple more questions. I know you've

912
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: got thanks to do, um, just as far as how

913
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: and I know that you probably I probably know the

914
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: answer to this. But will the Warriors win another NBA

915
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: championship in the next five years? Oh boy, I hope so. UM. Yeah,

916
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: I get lucky. You gotta be healthy. UM. I'll tell

917
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: you what. We have guys that have They know the way.

918
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? They know the way? That matters. Um,

919
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: there's a big when you haven't ever done it, you

920
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: always wonder if you can and does that make sense?

921
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: Like if you were a college coach, you can look

922
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: at the team that guys have done it. I've been

923
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: a part of it. I know what it takes. That's powerful,

924
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: UM to have the most important thing is to have

925
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: players that have done it. Because I can promise you

926
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: there's so many moments in the journey where it's it

927
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: could fall off. But one year we were down twice

928
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference Finals Game six and seven to Houston.

929
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Good Houston teams by ten a halftime and people are like, oh,

930
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: you were just better. No, no, if our fabric was weaker,

931
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: we lose one of those games, and people like, how

932
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: do you know? I go? I walked in the locker

933
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: room and a half time I look around. No panic,

934
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: no blame, no letting go of the rope. So Chris, Yeah,

935
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean I can picture a championship again because of

936
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, played Thompson, Draymond Green. I know who they

937
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: are in those championship moments. They ain't gonna They're not.

938
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even need praising them. You've seen

939
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: it too. You know who they betting on that. Now.

940
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: Look people say you get older and said, I'm still

941
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: betting on them. You guys, stay healthy, but nobody would

942
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: want to play. You gotta beat those. It's like a boxer, right,

943
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: you gotta knock him out. He's not gonna throw in

944
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: the town. You gotta knock him out. And it's gonna

945
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: be a long heavy heavyweight fight. It's gonna last clove

946
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: rounds and you know what, we'll see, We'll see. Yeah,

947
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet against you guys. That's for dango full

948
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: strength of full strength. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah. Um, we'll

949
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: see you now, we'll see, we'll see what's you guys.

950
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Luck although you know we're over here with you. You

951
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: see what you're wearing. But I got I got one

952
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: more question and then I'll let you know. Um, the

953
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: George Floyd Child the trial, Derek Shot found guilty. Um,

954
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: the NBA and your organization have been, you know, very

955
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: outspoken about their support and advocacy against situations like this

956
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: from happening. Talk a little bit about that, the community

957
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: involvement of the words organization and just comments on this,

958
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the trial and where we are as a nation. Yeah, well,

959
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: we're better than we were, but we're not. I don't

960
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: think we're good enough. Um, we all you know, we

961
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: all have to acknowledge how far we have to go?

962
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Is That was what I would say. And that starts

963
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: with making decisions like it starts with holding people accountaboo,

964
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: and it starts with being honest, And it starts with

965
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: raising your hand and saying I need to know more,

966
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I need to do more. Um. I heard a great

967
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: story where I was talking to a guy knowing our community,

968
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: who I've reached out to locally to understand rates better. Right, Like,

969
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: I could talk to you and you could be like

970
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I used to talk to Igdala on our team and

971
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: he's like, have you ever walked into a store and

972
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: felt like people were looking like you're gonna steal something?

973
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: And I was like no, And he goes, you know

974
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: how many times that's happened to me? And you maybe

975
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: you'd say, wow, you understand what a gift that is,

976
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: Like you getting the elevator, the woman grabs her purse,

977
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: you know what that feels like. I'd be like no.

978
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: So so there's that, But the other part is there's

979
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: understanding how life works and how it is and and

980
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: just having that knowledge and trying to be better at that.

981
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: But then there's moments where this guy was telling me

982
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: his wife was in a law school class and they

983
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: were the professor was teaching a course on property and

984
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: he showed a scene I think from Amistad where he

985
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: referenced slaves people as property and it was so um

986
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: irresponsible and so wrong on every level, and she wished,

987
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: in hindsight, she's she's a black woman that she had

988
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: had to strength to raise her hand and say this

989
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: is bullshit, like you can't do this, like this is wrong,

990
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Like why are you doing this? Why are you showing

991
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: this scene like this isn't right, this isn't good, Like

992
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: don't use this as an example of probably this is bad.

993
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: And she said, but the next step is why didn't

994
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: any of my classmates white, black, round Why didn't they

995
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: raise their hands and say it's wrong? And that really

996
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: hit me with like being not guilty of doing something

997
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're not guilty. Does that make sense? Like

998
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: do you understand like being an observer as is not enough.

999
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: You have to be a participant, right, And so I've

1000
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: learned from an organizational standpipe from an individual standpoint, just

1001
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm racist, that's not enough understand

1002
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Like that's not enough for me, that's not enough for society. Um, well,

1003
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. I like black people. That

1004
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: that's pathetic if you think about like that's not it.

1005
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: So learning individually that it takes a step forward, right,

1006
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Like standing still, Chris, even if I'm not doing anything

1007
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: wrong is wrong. So I think what we've all learned.

1008
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I hope is at least that like this ain't gonna

1009
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: change ange you as a black guy and as a

1010
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: black community. It's not fair for me to go you

1011
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. It's fair for you to be

1012
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: like can we get some fucking help? Can you help me?

1013
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: Like we're not the majority here, like can you can

1014
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: you help me here? So I think once we all

1015
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: have woken up to that, then it becomes about what

1016
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? So for us, it's programs in

1017
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: our community, it's it's educating ourselves, it's giving opportunities, it's

1018
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: putting black people in leadership, it's all the things we

1019
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: all have to do a better job of. Um. And

1020
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on. But in

1021
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: the in the trap specifically, like yeah, that's the like

1022
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: you should pay for you that, I mean obviously you

1023
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: know that's justice served. I mean, that's that's that's it's

1024
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: so sad that it's you shouldn't take a death why

1025
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: a death? Like a death is not correct. It's not death,

1026
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: is sir. It's done like you can't it doesn't change

1027
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: this punishment doesn't bring someone back to life. That's the

1028
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: hard part. Um. But yeah, we all gotta I appreciate

1029
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: you asking about it, but we'll have a long way

1030
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, we do, and I think we'll get there.

1031
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: But like you say, it's gonna take everyone and not

1032
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: just you know, standing around. We need active participants to

1033
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: get the job done. But bye, thank you so much

1034
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: for you today, My man. God, just come to a game.

1035
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Come to a game up here. I would like to,

1036
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: but when I wear that, but whenever I come up there,

1037
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: you never invite me anywhere? Don't. I can't. I can't

1038
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: put you in the I can't put you in the

1039
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: gym with something like that. I'm not gonna wear this

1040
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: if I come up to the You can wear a

1041
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: Dodger's hat if you want, okay, but that that might

1042
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: get me beat up though, So I got Yeah, they're

1043
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: pretty nice. It's not that you know, they're l A fans.

1044
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: Don't beat jump either. We're not to las man. You know,

1045
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: it's a nice society. It's a good, good deal of

1046
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: let's take it to your expense too. Yeah, we've involved, Yeah, evolved, evolved.

1047
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: So what's good talking to you? Chris? You're talking to

1048
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about gets identity,