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Speaker 1: All right, how you doing everyone? Welcome to Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff here on Giants dot Com. I am Russ Salzburg,

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Speaker 1: joined by my colleague Lance Meadow, our producer taking care

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Speaker 1: of the phone lines, Dave Dominic, and of course we

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Speaker 1: thank you for being part of the day. I gotta

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Speaker 1: prizes throughout the season. But before we get into any

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Speaker 1: football business, and we know obviously people want to talk football,

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Speaker 1: today is a very special day. It is nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Lance, we would be remiss if we did

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Speaker 1: not mention nine eleven and all the people who perished

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Speaker 1: on that god awful day. For me just bringing it up,

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Speaker 1: and since we're here talking about the Giants, I can

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Speaker 1: remember that day and in particular that week. Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, the Giants were coming back from Denver on

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Speaker 1: that Monday night game, on that Monday night game, and

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Speaker 1: it was also a Tuesday, as today is a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: But the entire week, I mean, I remember going to

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Speaker 1: the Giants practices and you had you know, that's before

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Speaker 1: they had they and there was not even a bubble

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Speaker 1: Mara God Rest the soul, the patriarch of this fine organization,

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Speaker 1: talking to everybody. It was just every time nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: you know, we come to this day. I think about

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Speaker 1: that week with the Giants, and you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: certain things. You know, football was secondary, along with you know,

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Speaker 1: baseball and anything else, but it was is you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't get it out of your mind if you

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Speaker 1: live through that. Well, especially I think for those of

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Speaker 1: us who are born and bred in the New York

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Speaker 1: Whether you lost somebody or not personally, I think you

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Speaker 1: at least know somebody that was impacted by that day.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's why I think it's important before

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Speaker 1: we get into the nuts and bolts of sports, as

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Speaker 1: you just alluded to, before we go crazy of the

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Speaker 1: fandom of football and the xs and ohs and a

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Speaker 1: or there. This day is certainly much more important. And

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Speaker 1: there are bigger things in life than getting caught up

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Speaker 1: in football. Yeah, you know, it's an old cliche, but

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Speaker 1: when you want to talk about putting priorities in order

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Speaker 1: or what's really important, a lot of people lost their

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Speaker 1: lives then, uh, quite frankly, unfortunately, Uh, people are still

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Speaker 1: if they were down there at that time, I just

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Speaker 1: remember everything about it, you know, being in the news business,

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Speaker 1: I remember, you know, obviously we weren't covering sports that day.

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Speaker 1: You know, we came secondary, it became secondary. But instead

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Speaker 1: And I remember also going down there. The next week.

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Speaker 1: I remember, Uh, the U s O called me up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They just wanted some of us people on air to

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Speaker 1: went with Ben Stiller nice. You know. It was just

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Speaker 1: a lot of memories today, not good memories, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the good memory is how the city and

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Speaker 1: stand tal together. But having said that, it is nine

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Speaker 1: acknowledged for what happened on that god awful day. Having

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Speaker 1: you know, I have I do a podcast. It's called

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Speaker 1: up yesterday I had Phil Simson, I was telling Lances

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Speaker 1: reason I bring it up and and Phil went off on.

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Speaker 1: When I say he went off, he was adamant about

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Speaker 1: He was not negative about it. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: Lance how let's and that was a darned good team

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Speaker 1: almost unsolicited, he brought up Eric Flowers and the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And Phil was, you know, this is not Russ and Lance,

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Speaker 1: and and he brought up He said, I'm sick and

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Speaker 1: tired of hearing about Eric Flowers and the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Everything is not wrong, things can be fixed. Let's get

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Speaker 1: on technique, let's get let's get things done and move forward.

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Speaker 1: He was adamant about he he didn't look at this

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Speaker 1: was not a glass half empty situation. For Phil, it

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Speaker 1: but that's certainly coming from Phil Simms. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: there were certainly encouraging aspects from the game. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I would hope that even die hard Giants fans who

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Speaker 1: could see that there is a silver lining. Number one.

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Speaker 1: You know, if we go piece by piece, we could

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Speaker 1: certainly sit here and break down some of the couraging aspects.

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Speaker 1: You talking about a defensive unit, Russ that completely changed

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Speaker 1: defensive schemes as a brand new defensive coordinator. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I have talked about that. There were a

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Speaker 1: lot of question marks about this defense, right, a lot

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Speaker 1: the new scheme, would everybody be in communication? In week one,

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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. That group surrendered thirteen points

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Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars offense the shutout in the second

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Speaker 1: and I'll take it even a step further us there

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Speaker 1: were six penalties that the Giants accepted against them. Defense

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Speaker 1: was not responsible for any of them. Five are on

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Speaker 1: about a defensive performance that, to me, did everything necessary

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Speaker 1: You cannot win football games in this league, no matter

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Speaker 1: who you are. You can name me all of the

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Speaker 1: talented players in the world that put them on paper.

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Speaker 1: If you score less than twenty points, and we saw

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much Phil Simms brought that up,

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Speaker 1: but that was a huge encouraging aspect. No, that was

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Speaker 1: part of the situation. Again, continue well on the offensive

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Speaker 1: one of the most encouraging aspects. A lot of movement

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are things that certainly the offense could

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Speaker 1: a team for over a hundred yards. Now, let's put

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Speaker 1: things in perspective. The sixty eight yard run by Barkley

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Speaker 1: certainly padded the number movement. But you know what I get.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. But when people are saying

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Speaker 1: So those sixty eight yards didn't just come at a time,

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Speaker 1: They came at a crucial time when money was on

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Speaker 1: this was not a good run. This was a spectacular run.

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Speaker 1: He showed moves, Barkley, he showed speed, he showed everything. So,

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Speaker 1: game is on the line. Well, that was an example.

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Speaker 1: What does a great what does a running back do

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Speaker 1: those were money yards at a crucial time. Well, it

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. And to your point, he forced four

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Speaker 1: a very well disciplined Jacksonville. Yeah, a stingy unit. Miles Jack.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. After the game,

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Speaker 1: He basically said that s kwon, Barkley shook him out

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Speaker 1: You go back and watch that play, Russ. Barkley runs

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Speaker 1: a tough game, had a few drops, there was one

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Speaker 1: because he did not display any rust whatsoever for you know,

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Speaker 1: the old Odell. He played on the control. I mean

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of balls not thrown perfectly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is get a load of this on the o G

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Speaker 1: podcast network. This is not russ Salzburg. This was Phil

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Speaker 1: Simms for forty five minutes. And Phil Simms said he

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Speaker 1: was fed up, fed up with the talk about Eric

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Speaker 1: Flowers and the offensive line. Well, there's some problems. Do

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Speaker 1: certain things have to be fixed, yes, so let's fix them.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the guy help, and let's also look at

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Speaker 1: the entire picture. And Phil was talking about the entire

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Speaker 1: picture as if as and this he was saying is

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Speaker 1: before Pat Sherman said it yesterday. He he was saying that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are bad things, there are also good things. And

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Speaker 1: also some of the problems that occur are not just

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Speaker 1: the guy. It's it's like we say the hip bones

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Speaker 1: connected to the knee bone, and the knee bones connected

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Speaker 1: to the gin bone. YadA YadA, YadA. Okay, and and

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Speaker 1: and Phil, God bless you. But it's real easy to

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Speaker 1: sit here today and tell me that you're worried about

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Speaker 1: Donald not being a choice. When Donald comes, is getting

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Speaker 1: over a magnificent start, God bless him last night for

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Speaker 1: the Jets. So really that's an easy one to pick. Well,

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Speaker 1: And first of all, we live in a society where

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Speaker 1: everybody's got to have instantaneous resistant gratification. And listen, Sam,

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Speaker 1: Donald may turn out to be an actually quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: looked good last night. It's one game. Let's SEPs correct exactly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, let's stop crowning individuals as I like

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Speaker 1: to say, before all of a sudden as parselves, as

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Speaker 1: parcels would say, let's not put him in, can't and

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Speaker 1: just exactly well. And the other factor is who knows

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Speaker 1: how the Giants quarterback situations you're gonna play out? When

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning determines that he wants to hang it up,

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Speaker 1: will they draft another guy? Will they sign a free agent?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of time for them to figure out.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the point though, Russ,

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Speaker 1: before we take more phocals about the Eric Flowers situation,

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Speaker 1: and we can't constantly look at games. This is not

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Speaker 1: just for the Giants, this is every NFL team. I

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Speaker 1: got into it with somebody on Twitter about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and the Chargers. They had a rough game,

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Speaker 1: not to get off topic against the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they were making the complaint about how

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers can't win the big game. They gave up

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Speaker 1: a punt return to Tyree Kill for ninety one yards.

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Speaker 1: The returner for the Chargers muff the punt that gave

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs the ball on the Chargers two yard line.

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Speaker 1: They gave up over three hundred total yards of offense,

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Speaker 1: all things that have nothing to do with the quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring that up. To bring

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Speaker 1: it back full circle to the Giants, Eric Flowers had

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Speaker 1: two penalties against him early in that series, and that

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Speaker 1: backed them up. He had the tripping penalty, he had

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Speaker 1: the holding penalty, but Russ in fairness, Evan Ingram had

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Speaker 1: a pass interference penalty against him, Cody Latimer at a

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Speaker 1: holding penalty. Nate Solder, another member of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: But they're not Eric Flowers. Who's who's the whipping boy? Exactly? Well.

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Speaker 1: But but see that's why I'm bringing that up. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that those three players that I just

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Speaker 1: named the responsible for the loss. But those penalties across

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Speaker 1: the board hurt the Giants offense. R us the pick

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Speaker 1: six hurt the Giants chances of winning the football game.

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Speaker 1: The muff punt by Klin Clay prevented the Giants from

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Speaker 1: having an opportunity at the end too, maybe tied the game.

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Speaker 1: A drop pass here or there by Angram and Sterling Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: a mistackle here or there. To say that Eric flowers

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Speaker 1: mishaps alone is the only reason why the Giants lost

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Speaker 1: by five points is not seeing the big picture. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving this to be a defense of Eric Flowers.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody takes it is, oh, we're going out

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Speaker 1: of our way to defend him. No, it's seeing a

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Speaker 1: game from a big picture perspective. There's three facets to

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Speaker 1: a football team. The Giants are no different. They're not unique.

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Speaker 1: There's offense, defense, and special teams. There were shortcomings on

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Speaker 1: special teams that I saw. There were also despite how

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Speaker 1: well the defense played some missed opportunities to stop the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: On third down, big Blake Borders run for forty one yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could point to a lot of plays

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Speaker 1: that added up to why the Giants fell short. It

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Speaker 1: was not Eric Flowers alone. Two oh one, nine four

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Speaker 1: or five one three is the number? Well said Lance,

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Speaker 1: Let's now go to Washington and chat with stas STOs.

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Speaker 1: How are you my friend? Hey? What's up? Guys? How

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Speaker 1: are you the four most? You know, Let's remember it's

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Speaker 1: nine eleven. There's a lot of things that are a

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Speaker 1: lot bigger than a football game or football team. So

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, we keep that in mind. Lance,

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Speaker 1: I think you're a thousand percent right what you just

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Speaker 1: said about the wearing Flowers saying, I honestly feel it

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Speaker 1: has a lot to do with how fans feel it

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Speaker 1: was ignored for so long that that it puts them

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Speaker 1: in the uproar. But I do there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that went wrong. When I look at this

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Speaker 1: game all in, I leave it honestly, posited him, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, but I did my ticks. I

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Speaker 1: picked the Giants to lose by score, and I'm a

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Speaker 1: die hard Giants fan because I looked at it as

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Speaker 1: new team, new offensive coordinator, new moving parts. Becker and Barkley,

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Speaker 1: Eli never played together throughout the preseason, and we're going

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Speaker 1: up against what is possibly one of the best defenses

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Speaker 1: in the league this year. Um, not possibly, not not

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Speaker 1: not possibly, it is. I mean, it's definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the best, if not the best, right And I agree.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't go in there thinking that the Giants

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to light it up. The fact

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Speaker 1: that this game was close and winnable makes me look like, think, like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, when we were two or three games in,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna look a lot better, you know, barring injury,

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Speaker 1: this is dinna look a lot better. I thought he

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Speaker 1: had that man. He paid very well considering that he

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Speaker 1: did have a lot of pressure. I love the adjustments

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Speaker 1: that they made coming out of the first half. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the pressure that Eli facing the first

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Speaker 1: half versus the second half, it was very different. They made.

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Speaker 1: They did make adjustments, they were working ships. They did

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Speaker 1: give Eric Clouds some help. Doesn't need Is he the

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Speaker 1: best right dock from the league? Hands down? Hell no?

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Speaker 1: But they did give him house. Everyone able to make

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Speaker 1: think this is don't forget that big sixty eight yard

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Speaker 1: run to Barkley did go off the right side. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't to the last you know, so Flowers obviously did

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Speaker 1: something right. When I look at that Barkley run. What

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Speaker 1: I hate about everyone saying, oh, but it was it

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Speaker 1: was because sixt eight yards padded. That's every running back

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Speaker 1: in the league. A Zeel Elliott. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best backs in the league. He always had

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Speaker 1: his stats with one big run that he breaks out

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Speaker 1: in most games, even in his rookie years, he always

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Speaker 1: had that one major run that really patted up the stats.

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Speaker 1: Like that's every running back. Like if if every great

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Speaker 1: running back was knocking out, you know, literally but four

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Speaker 1: or five yards every carry, they would never pass the

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Speaker 1: ball ahead stats. I'm sorry, no, I'm just drawing a

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Speaker 1: complete blank. The Hall, the Hall of Fame. I want

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Speaker 1: to make a comparison with Barkley stats, the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame running back for the Detroit Lions. I just Barry Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, That's that was typical of Barry Sanders. He

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Speaker 1: nickel and diamond dance and prance, you know, jitterbugging in

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Speaker 1: a yard or two or three or four or five

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Speaker 1: and then boom they need they need to give you

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Speaker 1: a fifty, sixty or seventy. You're right, it's a good comparisons.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, this is typical of of State Bombarkley.

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Speaker 1: If you look at his college career, it was the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Nearly negative, play a small games and then boom,

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Speaker 1: he was just burst out. That was his death. Oh

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Speaker 1: this is I saw nothing but good things. The only

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Speaker 1: frustration I have with the game is that we have

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Speaker 1: to control the controllables, like don't must the punt man

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Speaker 1: like that. You just secure in the punt. If you

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Speaker 1: can't catch it, get out the weight like I think

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Speaker 1: little things that got frustrated me with the game or Um,

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Speaker 1: I think it was I thought that Evan Ingram was

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Speaker 1: a bonehead and play on him. He did not have

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Speaker 1: to stretch out his arms. He has some people beat.

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00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: He could have just maintained discipline, called the mob. He

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Speaker 1: would never had the penalty. And I think that and

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Speaker 1: I think they missed the call on the fourth on

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Speaker 1: the fourth down charging in the fourth quarter was um

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Speaker 1: Sirley Shepard J Hayden. That was definitely some content YEP

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Speaker 1: you're you're that's a good point, all right, buddy, Okay, Thanky,

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Speaker 1: thanks for everything, and let you just remember nine eleven, guys,

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00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot more that colds us together and that

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Speaker 1: separates us, and let's just remember that as a country

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Speaker 1: going forward. Thank you, Thanks Amen, Stass, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Two O one five one three is the number here

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Speaker 1: on Big Blue Kickoff, which let's just remind you that

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Speaker 1: throughout this season. Back to the phones we go. Oh,

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Speaker 1: our old friend Lynn from Columbia, Lenn, how are you

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Speaker 1: doing today? Hey guys, how you doing? How are you doing? Len? Good? Good? Listen,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting, uh, you know, the show off with

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on nine eleven. It's it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard not to think about where you

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Speaker 1: were at nine o'clock on the morning on Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. Um look, I'm I I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, I'm I'm disappointed we lost. Um Man, you

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Speaker 1: got a winnable game. It was a winnable game. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody's talking about with a great team Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: is you know, what what did Jacksonville do in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter? I mean the game was right there, as

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Speaker 1: Jean mentioned yesterday, we're in Jacksonville Territory with we're on

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Speaker 1: there forty with two and a half minutes ago in

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Speaker 1: the game. Well, I mean we got the ball then

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Speaker 1: that that's that's probably the frustrating part about everything. Think

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Speaker 1: about what we're talking about here, we're talking about well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of positives, but there was frustration

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Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't perfect for the Giants and

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Speaker 1: they were still right there at the end. Yeah, yeah,

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00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: they could have they could have won the game. So yes,

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating. We're just saying, well, listen, you're disappointed. There's

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Speaker 1: not anybody member of the Big Blue Nation who's not

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Speaker 1: disappointed that they lost the games. Of course, I hope so,

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Speaker 1: I hope so because for us it's time to win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's time to win a game like this.

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Speaker 1: Your best you get to this point, you know, even

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Speaker 1: you know, count the whole fourth quarter. Barkley made the play,

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Speaker 1: but you count the whole fourth quarter. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: chances were there, of course, to win a home game

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Speaker 1: to win this game. I mean, you know your best players,

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Speaker 1: your best thirty players. And by the way, that that

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Speaker 1: punt returner was not one of our best thirty players.

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Speaker 1: But that's a whole different story. Let me let me

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Speaker 1: mention it for a second. Tyreek Hills return he punch yesterday,

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Speaker 1: that punt that he returned. I was in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: that return around the fourth. Well, but Lenn, that goes

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Speaker 1: back to the debate. I believe Russ and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this actually towards the talent of last Tuesday show

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about Antonio Brown and the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and I said, listen, if Patremer turned around and said

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Speaker 1: he wanted old back to return every punt, I'd have

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Speaker 1: no problem. The problem is you get a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that fear the injury bug. I can get hurt

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Speaker 1: on any playe in the national football And you know,

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Speaker 1: Pat Shermer also said, because people were saying, how come May,

639
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: maybe you could have put the old Dell in late,

640
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, to feel that point. And his point was,

641
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: uh that Sherman said they were looking for the block

642
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: at that juncture. But I didn't mean I didn't need

643
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: to go off on a tension there, But let me

644
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: try to make a couple of more points. And I

645
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: appreciate your following up on the punt return saying I

646
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: really do, but let me let me try to make

647
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a couple other points. You know, your best players in

648
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: that situation. I mean, you got to complete a pass,

649
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: you gotta make a catchy even Eli's interception. Um Lance,

650
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: you you mentioned it. You know, come come on, Eric,

651
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: make a block. Make I mean, it's fourth quarter at home. Well,

652
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: you know what, Lenn, I know you want to make

653
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: a few other points. But I actually I'm glad you

654
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: brought that up. Eric Flowers actually spoke to the media

655
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: yesterday and I went back and I watched the video

656
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: and then I quoted what Eric said, and I explained

657
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: what Eric's head on that play. If you go back,

658
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and I suggest you watch what the Jacksonville Jaguars are doing.

659
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: Is you have in Gockway, the other great edge rusher

660
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: opposite Klais Campbell is leaning towards the outside. And then

661
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: you have Kelvin Smith, their Pro Bowl linebacker. He comes

662
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: up to the line, he fakes as if he's blitzing.

663
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: So what Eric explained is in that situation he has

664
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: to make a choice. He either concerns himself with the

665
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: interior pressure that the linebacker is bringing, or he gets

666
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: caught up within Gockway on the outside. He said, the

667
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: right choice. What he has coached to do is he

668
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: has to concentrate on the linebacker coming from the inside,

669
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: which means yes, it's a two on one situation there.

670
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: So he went to the inside to worry about Kelvin Smith,

671
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: which turned out to be a fake. Smith then flared

672
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: out back in coverage in Gockway, got some penetration on

673
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: the edge, impacted Eli Manning, and then the ball wound

674
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: up being deflected by the interior defensive lineman. So the

675
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: reason I'm bringing that up is a lot of people

676
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: are gonna point to you over there's another break down

677
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: by Eric Flowers. But if you don't know what the

678
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: assignment to the offensive lineman is, it's hard to judge

679
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: jury and execute who the blame should be on. That's

680
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: my only point. All right, Let n I'm begging, yes,

681
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: slow down a second, make one more point. We got

682
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: to get other people on ahead. Continue listen. We were

683
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: just as good as the Jacksonville Jaguars going into that

684
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. We are three and fifteen in our last

685
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: meaningful games. We should win a game like that. We're

686
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: playing at home, win a game up in your top

687
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: thirty people, including Eli. We've got to make place in

688
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It's time to win games. Sundays, the

689
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: Sundays to start. Thanks for taking my car. Alright, alright,

690
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: thank you. Sometimes the opposing team has something to do

691
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: with whether you win the game or not. Well and Russ,

692
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: before we get back to the phone calls, Listen, I

693
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: understand Len's point. It's the close games that come back

694
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: to bite you. In the Nashville Football League, you could

695
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: go back and you could look at I'll bring up

696
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers for example. They started owing four last season.

697
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Remember they played the Giants. They won their fifth game,

698
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: and then they won nine of their final twelve. They

699
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: finished nine and seven. They win one of their first

700
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: four games, and it came down to a missfield goal,

701
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: a special team's mishap. Yeah, that's the difference between missing

702
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: and making the players. I understand his frustration. The other

703
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to point out, just to show you

704
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: how close this game was, a big play that I

705
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: haven't heard a lot of people talk about Russ the

706
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: two point conversion not being able to convert on that.

707
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: It was a great play by the way by Klaas

708
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Campbell to get interior penetration. Let me just interrupt you

709
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: for one second there. Remember the name. It wasn't just anybody,

710
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: it was Kalaias Campbell. Oh, without a doubt. I mean,

711
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: we're talking about one of the best defensive life. Fact.

712
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: That's why I said he deserves credit. It wasn't as

713
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: if the Giants just stood around, you know, and we're

714
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: correct that something was gonna come to fruition. Campbell made

715
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: a great play. But the reason why I wanted to

716
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: just bring that up is an example of how these

717
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: little plays here or they're add up. If you get

718
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: that two point conversion Russ on the final possession for

719
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the Giants, so they would have been down now by

720
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: a field goal. Just think about how the dynamics change

721
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: they get down to the Jacksonville thirty six. It's third

722
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: and six, Okay, even though Ingram doesn't convert the first down,

723
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: maybe you allow Aldrick Rosas to go out there and

724
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: attempt there would have been what a fifty three yard

725
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: field goal to tie the game. That that that's The

726
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: only reason why I bring up doesn't mean he's gonna

727
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: make the field go. It's just you got a few

728
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: more options if you get that two point conversion down

729
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: the stretch. All right to five? One three is the number.

730
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: Let's okay. Well, now a local go to New York

731
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: and speak with Dan. Hello, Dan, how are you? I'm good?

732
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks for taking my call? Okay, buddy,

733
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: what's up? I'm just I'm really over all the negativity, man,

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: all the people that are clouding on you know, Flowers

735
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: and the offensive line and and Eli. I don't understand

736
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: over one game, it doesn't make sense. You gotta give

737
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: it a little bit of time. New offensive says, some

738
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: new defensive system. Uh, Eric Flower is going to the

739
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: right side. I haven't given up on him. I still

740
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: think he has uh. I think he still has ability.

741
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a left tackle. Obviously he's a

742
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: little slow, but I I saw a lot of good

743
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: plays that I liked out of Woman. I think he's

744
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna throw into that position. I think, uh, I think

745
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna be all right. I think offensively wasn't my concern.

746
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: I mean, realistically, we played with and we were right

747
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: there to win it with with a playoff team, you know,

748
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: so then as you give us some whole first of all.

749
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: Second of all, my worry is defensively. You know you're

750
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, we helped them to you know, only

751
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: seven ten points whatever. Offensively, none in the second half. None,

752
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: none in the second half, right right, But that's also

753
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: against Blake portals and in a back up yelled and

754
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: yeah he started before, but he's not learning from that.

755
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna go up against more talented quarterbacks. I don't

756
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think the offense is going to

757
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: be tested on the defensive side of the ball. You

758
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: could say the Jaguars are the pinnacle uston Carolina. A

759
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of defenses that are really good coming up on

760
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: the schedule. And yes, the quarterback caliber is going to

761
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: increase as well. But the bottom line is every week

762
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: you got to go out there and to pitch a shutout.

763
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: It's very tough to do that. That that's the point, Dan,

764
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: no matter whether you're playing against Aaron Rodgers or Blake Bortles,

765
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: to hold the team scoreless. I mean, that's impressive that

766
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: that shouldn't just easily be dismissed. My My big concern

767
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: was the lack of pressure we got in the quarterback.

768
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel like we got hardly any

769
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback um and again we have we

770
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: don't have Olivia Burden. So I'm looking forward to get

771
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: him back. UM. Any news on him, No, I mean

772
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: last again, it's we're talking about It's Tuesday, so again

773
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I shouldn't say this on a Tuesday. And

774
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Dan, I'll still be surprised if

775
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: we see him this week. It's a high ankle sprain,

776
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: which I didn't think it was, but it is so

777
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: um and with a high ankle sprain and with with

778
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: how important uh Ovie is to his team, uh if

779
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: he if he's not right, you don't want to screw

780
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: with it. Well again, I'm not the doctor and I'm

781
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: not the trainer and I'm just putting it out there.

782
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: But if it is, they say he's making progress, But

783
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, the only progress I'm interested in seeing is

784
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: him playing. Other than that, you know, if he's getting close,

785
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: he's getting close, but that remains to be seen. And

786
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: I think the true indicator Russ is if he gets

787
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: out on the practice field this week. So you know,

788
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna know tomorrow when they start preparing for the

789
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys on Wednesday, and if he does again on the

790
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: practice field, to me, that usually is the best indicator

791
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: of his chances of playing, which he struggled to do

792
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: last week. But you know, even if Vernon returns, you

793
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: look at, yes, do they need to get more pressure

794
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: on the quarterback? Well, against Jacksonville, four quarterback hits Russ

795
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: and one sack which was split between Kerry Win as

796
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: well as Kareem Martin, So there were opportunitys and and

797
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I thought they did make Blake Bortles think twice about

798
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: where he wanted to go after the football. With the football,

799
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: I should say, and you do want to see there

800
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: be more progression with the pass rush, But you know,

801
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: this is a group that's still young, and there's a

802
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: lot of guys that were getting their feet wet for

803
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: the first time. I mean Lorenzo Carter and that was

804
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: his first regular season game. Connor Barwin miss the majority

805
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: of the preseason. Kareem Martin, I understand he's been in

806
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: James Betcher's system, but he's been mainly a special teams

807
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: player for the majority of his career. That to me

808
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: is going to come with additional reps and additional games,

809
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: and and and guys, folks, ladies, don't don't minimize what

810
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Land said. They pitched the shutout the Giant defense did

811
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: in the second half a shutout. Okay, that's zero points.

812
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't care who what it is. It's the National

813
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: Football League. Allowing a team zero points is impressive. I

814
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: don't care who are you playing. If you're playing the

815
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: best in the league or the worst in the league,

816
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: it is still impressive. Uh. Coach Marvin, our buddy from Delaware,

817
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: how are we doing today? Coach, Hey, how you do good? Good?

818
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm doing Coach has everything with you. I'm doing good.

819
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: I just have to compliment you both. You guys are

820
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: on the money to day. I'm mean pressed today. I'm

821
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: meant press. Lance. You're you're hitting on all numbers. That. Um.

822
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: What I want to talk about is UH when you

823
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: guys can talk about this the glass half fool and

824
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: Lance both y'all have said something that I was thinking

825
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: of is it was a game of inches on Sunday

826
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: and you got to go back to the UH. I

827
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: think it was a third in two with the UH

828
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: fourth in two with the dive by Barkley. He just

829
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: missed it by inches. It was actually a fourth and one.

830
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: They just needed one yard on that play. I think

831
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: it was too I couldn't. I thought it was a

832
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: fourth and one, but I'll look back. Actually you can

833
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: look at it because he died and got one. I

834
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: thought it was also. No, I could be mistaken. I'm

835
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna go back. Look. I thought it was a fourth

836
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: in one, and I know that he was hit as

837
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: he went up and then he literally like came straight down.

838
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: So you know, if he would have maybe lunged a

839
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: little bit forward, you could argue, I think it would

840
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: have been a position. But you may be right. I

841
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: thought at the time I had it was a fourth

842
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: in one, but I could be saying, I'm gonna look

843
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 1: it up while you continue ahead, coach, it was fourth

844
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: and two. I just found it. I stayed corrected. You

845
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: were right. Yeah, we caught another path out in the

846
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: flat with two guys got him and him pot by

847
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: one quarter of events of getting the first down. Um,

848
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: we had the path in the the fourth quarter to

849
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Odell was just yep. We had a path in the

850
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: fourth quarter where they ran that rough route it was

851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: like a rough and wheel where um where a separate

852
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: ended up with the guy behind him and be like

853
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: could have got a little more time. That was a touchdown.

854
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: The guy did grab his arm, but they're both fighting

855
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: for the ball. I wasn't you know. I wanted the flag,

856
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: but it was one of those fifty fifty balls. Um

857
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: and enters away from that. Uh enters away from the

858
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: post with to Odell, which um Eli said, and I

859
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: believe O'Dell didn't run it a little bit run into

860
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: that and slowed down to the route which the timing

861
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: was off, and then they went. It was another player

862
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: in the first half for um it was ramsy with

863
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: O'Dell on the slant towards the end zone where again

864
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: he like that pressure and Eli threw it up hoping

865
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: he can get to the point where Odell was going

866
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: to be to make the catch, and he didn't get

867
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: there to make the catch, just mis sis missed his

868
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: hand in the end zone. UM. So it was it

869
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: was a game of teres Um. It played well. I thought.

870
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with played calling as far to

871
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: design as fart moving back them from the at field.

872
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: Um And they did something that the Giants haven't done

873
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: in a long time. Said to do that. They instituted

874
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: a string pad was really creative. It was off a

875
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: play actors and to Barkley with a sinkle MAMAI and

876
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: the center ended up on the outside. It was that brute.

877
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I think he ran it for about fifteen yards. I

878
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: believe it was when he dypped over the guy on

879
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: the stude y remember that play he led over him.

880
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: That was if you go back and look at that

881
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: was a well executed um um string pass. And they

882
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: were doing all they can to get away from this.

883
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: This front seven, these guys they were I don't think

884
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: the people. I think people underestimate how fast this defense

885
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: really is from all aspects of the game. Um from

886
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: the front floor to the linebackers and then linebackers gaid

887
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Ingram a lot of trouble and I think that contribute

888
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: to some of those traps. Ain't got to day to

889
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: make those catches. But Jack and those guys they were

890
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: on him and it wasn't my years running three in

891
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: the second gay. Hey, coach, you're talking about a defense

892
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: that was second overall in the league last year, you know,

893
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Yeah, And the and the guy I think

894
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: his name Glance. I couldn't remember this name. He called

895
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago and said that they gotta win

896
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: those games. Very passionate. Yea, yeah, he's very passionate, and

897
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. And he said the Giants

898
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: was three and thirteen. They gotta win these games. But

899
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: guess what Jacksonville was last year, and they're gonna want

900
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: to win those games. And Jacksonville did the same thing.

901
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: They crutch the Steelers. They put it on New England,

902
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: which they should have wanted. Yes, you're you could not

903
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: put the Giants in the same sentence with those two teams,

904
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville did it to them. Um, that's the other part.

905
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: My last part is the things that are worrying me

906
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. There was a lot of leaked on

907
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: the offensive behind, but that's because their four is that good. Um,

908
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: and Lance was right. There was a play where Um,

909
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the play where Flowers saw the lineback at that linebackers

910
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: did step forward. He take forward, in fact out. It

911
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: was like a zone blitz they did, and he stepped out.

912
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: It made Flowers stopped just enough because I got it

913
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the fraction of a second. Yeah, people need to go

914
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: back and look at that, because Lance was a hundred

915
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: of SIPs right on that that two stepped up that

916
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: made him see him and stopped and and it gave

917
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: a three runner um. But I still if I'm a

918
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: coach of Willer or agent a Willer, I could get ready.

919
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: Soon they may give you a shot to get in

920
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: the game and see what you can do. I'm not

921
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: saying bunched on pitch Flowers because he has problems in

922
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: the next two three weeks. You gotta say, Okay, let's

923
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: try and see what Willer can do in this game,

924
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: and let's just take them out for here. Got to

925
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: keep everybody him too as a team. Let's see what

926
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: he can do. Alright, coach, alright, real quick that on

927
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: the on the on the quarterback, we're gonna run into

928
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of running quarterback. We're still letting guy. We're

929
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: not keeping our leverage on the outside for those those

930
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are running runs. Yeah. Well, one of the things

931
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: that I threw out and appreciate the phone Blake Bortles Russ.

932
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: There is a guy that's averaged about three hundred rushing

933
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: yards per season every single year he's been in the league.

934
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to account for him to do that.

935
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: He'll take his chances. And you know, this is the

936
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: other thing when you look at the Giant schedule, you

937
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: know everybody gets caught up in well, maybe things are

938
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna get easier. Defensively, they're not as effective as the

939
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Jackson Jaguars. Minnesota was number one in defense, Jackson was

940
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: number two. Well, you got Deck Prescott this week. Ross

941
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: he's a mobile quarterback. Then you have Deshaun Watson, He's

942
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. So you know, once again, you're still

943
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna be tested, whether it's Blake Bortles under center, Deshaun

944
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: wats In under center, Aaron Rodgers under center, because all

945
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: of these different quarterbacks have different styles and different mannerisms,

946
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: and you're getting a lot of them who are mobile.

947
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're busy talking about you know who the

948
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: Giants were up against. Let's be frank about it. Probably

949
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: this they could not have had for for a team

950
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: that's gone and again it's not making excuses, is just

951
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: telling what it is for a team that's gone through

952
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in transition and all this brand

953
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: new offensive line and that that was probably the worst

954
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: matchup the Giants could have had for an opening game,

955
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: that kind of defense, that front, you know, seven of

956
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and that said it was there. They

957
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: could have won the game. They didn't. So now we

958
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: got fifteen more tries this season. Uh oh, look who's

959
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: on the line. Our good friend from Brooklyn, Lisa, Hello, Lisa,

960
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: how are you hi? How are you good? Least good?

961
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I was at this Sunday in the rain, there you go,

962
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: watching my team. It was a good it was a

963
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: good game. I saw a lot of improvement, a lot

964
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: of upside to the game. But there's something I wanted

965
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, what do you think about field position?

966
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: It seems like we never had field position. It always

967
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: seems like we're on the ten, we're on the eight team.

968
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: If you watch the game last night with the Jets,

969
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: there always they start on the thirty, on the forty.

970
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: It always seems that we never have good field position.

971
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Well that sometimes last that has something you know you're

972
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: talking about last night. I mean that has something to

973
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: do with what the other team is allowing you to

974
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: do and what they've given you, you know, I mean

975
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: that's that defense that the Giants were facing was quite

976
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: a bit defense a difference since you're bringing up last

977
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: night's game with the Jets, quite a bit difference, a

978
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: bit different than what the Lions were putting out on

979
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: defense well, which was non existent. I mean, Matthew Stafford

980
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: least had four in receptions. So when your defense is opportunistic,

981
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to capitalize that from an offensive

982
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: standpoint because you're not gonna have to return kickoffs and

983
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: punts and worried about getting a dynamic play, whereas Jacksonville

984
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: had the one turnover Genores Jenkins picked him off. Other

985
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: than that, Jaguars didn't give the Giants any gifts. So

986
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: I think that plays a lot into the field position

987
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: angle that you're talking about. If your defense creates turnovers,

988
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: if special teams gets a big return, you know, that's

989
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: how you change field position. That just wasn't a lot

990
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: of that against Jacksonville. You know, at least just just

991
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: be careful. I understand what you're saying, but you know,

992
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: it's night and day from last night to what the

993
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: Giants were playing on Sunday afternoon, So you know, when

994
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: you're up against a defense such as Jacksonville Jaguars, you know,

995
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: field position is not something that you're gonna have too

996
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: much of good field position anyway. Yeah, that's true. I

997
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: was I was just wondering because it's something maybe on

998
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: special teams that we could do, maybe improve our special teams.

999
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: It always seems though, even beside jackson but we all

1000
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: team we just don't have that field position in the games.

1001
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: I think that has you know it, It makes it

1002
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: a lot easier to score when you're absolutely no doubt

1003
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: about it, Laz, I agree with you. I mean, I'm

1004
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: just perusing the starting field position for the Giants. They

1005
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: had one drive that started at their own thirty seven,

1006
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: and they wound up turning that into a field goal,

1007
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: and then they actually they had a drive where they

1008
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: started at the Jacksonville I was just gonna ask, but

1009
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: but here you go, Barkley runs for three, then an

1010
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: incomplete pass to Barkley, and then a short passed anger

1011
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: for five and then you're forced to punt. So you know,

1012
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: you could have good field position. Lisa's offense has to

1013
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. That's true. That's true. So but

1014
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: other than that, I want to to say, hi, do

1015
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: you guys, And I'm glad for the season, and I'm

1016
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I see a lot of positive guys.

1017
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: All right, listen, you take care of those kids you're

1018
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: watching now for okay, I will have a great guy day. Guys.

1019
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for the phone call. Appreciated. All right, Lisa, thank

1020
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: you very much. And again, folks, you are watching Big

1021
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff here on Giants dot Com and we just

1022
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,399
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00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,279
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1025
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: Giants prizes throughout this season. I think most, by and large,

1026
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: most of the fans, uh you know, are looking at

1027
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: this with a lot of common sense lance. It's a situation.

1028
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: It's one game nobody likes to lose. I mean, nobody

1029
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: wants to lose, but it's it's not gloom and doom.

1030
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: And again, that was a very tough matchup. If you

1031
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: weren't gonna go look at your schedule to say, what

1032
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: would be the worst matchup the Giants could have for

1033
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: a new offensive line, let me think about it. Yeah,

1034
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: I mean, going up against arguably one of the best

1035
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: defensive line Jackson the Jacksonville Jaguars might have been very well.

1036
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: At the top of that list, the group had fifty

1037
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: five sacks rus last season, that was number two in

1038
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. That roupe at twenty one interceptions, that was

1039
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: number two in the NFL. They were number two pretty

1040
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: much just about every statistical category. And you know, forget

1041
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: the totals, it's the fact that as I noted, we

1042
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: talked about Calais Campbell, we talked about Yannick and Gokway,

1043
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, two defensive ends that each had over ten

1044
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: sacks last season. The linebackers are very versatile, two of

1045
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: arguably the best corners in the NFL, and Jalen Ramsey

1046
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: and a J. Boy. So you know you had playmakers

1047
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Russ that the Giants had to go up against at

1048
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: every level of the defense. You know, sometimes you got

1049
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: a defense got a great front, seven secondaries as shaky,

1050
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: or sometimes you get a fabulous secondary, not a great

1051
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: pass rush. Jacksonville has got very few weaknesses across the board.

1052
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: So the positive is that, hey, you went up against

1053
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: arguably the best defense in the NFL. You held your own. Hey,

1054
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: this room for improvement, but you held your own. So

1055
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: now if you go up against the defense that is

1056
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: maybe ranking a little bit lower, or even if it's

1057
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: in the vicinity of Jackson, you feel confident that you

1058
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: can move the football against that group. Now, you know,

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00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: the other thing to look at now is the Giants

1060
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: did lose that first game, okay, and now they go

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00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: on the road for not one, but for two. And

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00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: one is Sunday night playing the Cowboys at home in Dallas,

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00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are coming off a season opening loss.

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00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: So someone's gonna be oh and two after that, you

1065
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: obviously you want to stop the bleeding as quickly as possible.

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00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Uh You you want to right the ship and get

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00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: get everybody feeling good. You know, mentally I was happy,

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00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: not I don't know, let me correct that I was

1069
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: pleased with the way mentally they Giants came out of

1070
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: the game. They weren't there were It wasn't a Woe's me.

1071
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: They weren't hanging their heads, they weren't miserable, and it

1072
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: wasn't false bravado. Okay, they were genuinely okay, yeah, we're

1073
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: not happy we lost, but collectively they felt confident that

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00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: this can be improved. They felt that they made strives.

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00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that also comes from the head coach. There

1076
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: was not a lot of negativity. But that said, we

1077
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: know how the Natives can get restless. If one becomes

1078
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: O and two and a boat. We gotta get it

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: taken care of because this schedule is I'm not giving

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00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not giving them built in excuses, but this is

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: a killer schedule. It's a killer schedule for any team

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's just a brutally tough schedule. Well,

1083
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: when you look at the schedule, Russ, and this is

1084
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: for everybody in the NFC East, not just the Giants.

1085
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're living in their own bubble. They

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: play the a f C South, and they got their

1087
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: first taste of the a f C South with Jacksonville,

1088
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: and they play the NFC South. Now, this is my

1089
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: personal opinion, Russ. If you were to ask me the

1090
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: deepest divisions in the National Football League, I think those

1091
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: are the two deepest divisions in the National Football League.

1092
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: They happened to be both Southern divisions in their respective conferences.

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00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: I can make a case for three to four teams

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00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: deep in the NFC South. I mean, Tampa Bay certainly

1095
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: look good in the opener against New Orleans. It's one

1096
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: game but they got a lot of offensive personnel and

1097
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: it proved defensive line. But boy, I didn't see that.

1098
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this. Okay, we're talking about it,

1099
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: let's talk bucks. We're thinking about twenty one, twenty one

1100
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: of twenty eight for four plus yards from Ryan check. Well,

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00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny and and I'm a little biased

1102
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: in this because I covered the IVY League and I

1103
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: remember when Ryan Fitzpatrick was at Harvard, and you know

1104
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: he was a pretty good quarterback even then. No, no,

1105
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you were making a judgment about him.

1106
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: And he's been a journeyman in the NFL, but he's

1107
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: hung around the league for quite some time. If you

1108
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: remember when he was with the Jets, you know he

1109
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: had Brandon Marshall, Eric Deckery actually put together a respectable season.

1110
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: Just goes to show your RUSS. You give a quarterback talent,

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00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: you give him an offensive line, you can do things

1112
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. It's not necessarily rocket science. Now,

1113
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, are they gonna be able to put up

1114
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: forty eight every single week? No? Is this now a

1115
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy? Once Jamis Winston comes back from suspension, I

1116
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna go that far either, but

1117
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: it was certainly encouraging in the point ideas that there's

1118
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of dangerous teams in the NFC South. That's

1119
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: why I brought it up. If Tampa Bay coup of

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: forty eight points up us against the Saints defense on

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00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: the road, on the road in New Orleans, which is

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: very hard to win, and the Saints defense, which was

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: dramatically improved last season New Orleans. Remember that Giants game

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen Drew Brees against Elne. They combined

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00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: for thirteen touchdowns. Remember it was a gunfight. There was

1126
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: no defense in that game. Okay, I'm not trying to

1127
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: pour assault in the wounds here. I think everybody remembers

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: that game. That's been Drew Brees his life for us

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00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: every single season, with the exception of last year, where

1130
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: he felt he didn't have to go out and say

1131
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: to himself, oh my god, I gotta score fifty points

1132
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: to win a game. Now, all of a sudden, he's

1133
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: looking at his team again, He's saying, I gotta score

1134
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: fifty points to win a game. So you know, it's

1135
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: it's extremely dangerous what the NFC South provides. Giants are

1136
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to go up against all four of those teams,

1137
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: and I would not sleep on the Texans, and I

1138
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: would also not sleep on Tennessee. I know Marcus Marietta

1139
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: got beat up a little bit in Week one, but

1140
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: I still think that team's got a really good front seven. There.

1141
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: There is no this is the National Football League. There

1142
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: is nobody to you sleep on anybody. It's gonna bite

1143
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: you on a Kista plane and simply yeah, but really

1144
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough situation. And you know, now the

1145
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Giants have to regroup, they have to go in, they

1146
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: have to get themselves. You know, I don't want to

1147
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: say right mentally, because I think they are right mentally.

1148
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: They just have to go in and take care of

1149
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: business and make sure that the ship gets righted, uh

1150
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: in the right direction. It's again, all the guys were

1151
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: talking about this situation being um a lot of positives

1152
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: coming out of the game. And that's not Russ and

1153
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: Land saying that it's not it's not even you the

1154
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: callers saying that. It's the Giant saying that. And that's

1155
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: most important because listen, we were there last year when

1156
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: guys weren't saying that coming out of games. Okay, it's

1157
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: the first game. They're very much, very much into. And

1158
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: and I'll mention this real quickly because I actually I

1159
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: had tweeted about it that Friday. In the locker room,

1160
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: I saw something that I had never seen before. Nate

1161
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: Solder and and John Greco had walked up two uh

1162
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: set Kwan Barkley's locker and they had an extended, serious

1163
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: It was an all business conversation and I was just

1164
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: standing and watching and there was animation and talking and

1165
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: this and that, and then when Barkley left, it carried

1166
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: on with Jonnathan Stewart, who was whose lock wars right

1167
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: next to st Kwan's. My point being, it looked to

1168
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: me as if the running backs and the offensive line

1169
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: they want to make sure they get this right and

1170
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: their heads are in the right places. I had never

1171
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: seen that. You know, you see guys talking in the

1172
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: locker room. This was serious business, hardcore. This This was

1173
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: two Behema's coming over to the talk to their running backs.

1174
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: It was very very serious business, and I think it

1175
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: was very important, you know, uh, that they went ahead

1176
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: and did that. And to me, it showed me if

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01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: nothing else that this group is on the same page.

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: So having said that our page is about the clothes.

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Speaker 1: Want to thank all of you for being part of this.

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