Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Radio John Shier the third season dukead basketball coach moving
Speaker 2: into the Final four. You've been there as a player,
Speaker 2: You've been there as an assistant coach. What's it like
Speaker 2: to be there as a head coach?
Speaker 3: Dan, Well, it's great to be with you. You know
Speaker 3: it couldn't be more excited about this opportunity. I'll feel it,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll feel it in person in San Antonio,
Speaker 3: But to be honest with you, it feels surreal, you know,
Speaker 3: like it's the promised Land. Obviously we're hungry for more,
Speaker 3: but couldn't be more excited by this opportunity.
Speaker 2: You always want to be the guy who follows, the
Speaker 2: guy who follows the legend. I'll go back to John Wooden,
Speaker 2: and you know you didn't get that. You've got the
Speaker 2: opportunity to coach, but you're following the legend. In Mike Ryzewski,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you did research or talk to
Speaker 2: people who were the ones following the legend as opposed
Speaker 2: to following the person following the legend.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Dan, I did more research on
Speaker 3: successions then, uh, I think you can imagine you know,
Speaker 3: especially in sport, right, but even in business.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I tried to find connections about you know, really
Speaker 3: why you know others weren't as successful and what went
Speaker 3: wrong and because in most cases it wasn't about what
Speaker 3: went right. You know, it's it's been, it's been very difficult,
Speaker 3: And I think the first and most important thing I
Speaker 3: found was to be really connected with you know, the
Speaker 3: former coach or the transition and for me, you know
Speaker 3: the fact that Coach K and I are still as
Speaker 3: close as could be and the succession. Me and him
Speaker 3: were so connected about what had to change and what
Speaker 3: had to improve and what I had to do. But
Speaker 3: then obviously you're not gonna win if you try to
Speaker 3: be somebody else. And so I had to come to
Speaker 3: terms very quickly with I'm not coach K, not gonna
Speaker 3: try to be him. I'm not gonna try to coach
Speaker 3: like him. I'm gonna I'm gonna be myself. And wherever
Speaker 3: that takes us, you know, I can live with at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, because that's the only way
Speaker 3: I'm going to succeed.
Speaker 2: Is there a new philosophy in how to build a
Speaker 2: team in college basketball? You guys might be the anomaly.
Speaker 2: You got three freshmen who are going to be lottery picks.
Speaker 2: But you're seeing a lot of these teams that a
Speaker 2: couple of freshmen, but it's really about getting these you know,
Speaker 2: transfer guys or guys who are going to stay for
Speaker 2: three or four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it has changed a lot. I think
Speaker 3: the biggest difference is now you have to build your
Speaker 3: team based on year to year. You know, it's and look,
Speaker 3: it's when I played, this is only fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3: When I played the starting lineup in my group, we
Speaker 3: had over one hundred starting game, over one hundred games together.
Speaker 3: And look the team we're playing in Houston. Houston has
Speaker 3: great experience together. But for the most part, it is
Speaker 3: year to year. I think for me, the challenge is
Speaker 3: trying to find some level of continuity, which I think
Speaker 3: still can be done in a different way. We're still
Speaker 3: bringing in really talented, already made players that we develop
Speaker 3: over the course of the year and have big expectations
Speaker 3: like the guys you you know you had mentioned as
Speaker 3: freshman now, but I think we do it our own way,
Speaker 3: and that's what I'm proud of. You know, I think
Speaker 3: it's not going to be cookie Cutter, we need this
Speaker 3: amount of transfers, returners, freshmen. I think it's based on
Speaker 3: the level of readiness that the freshmen we recruit have
Speaker 3: and then also the returners we can possibly bring back.
Speaker 3: And I think as you look at our roster, Dan,
Speaker 3: the combination of the Seon James, the Malik Browns, the
Speaker 3: Mason Gillis, with the Tyrees, Proctor and Caleb Foster, well
Speaker 3: that helps the freshmen having some level of experience with them.
Speaker 5: How would you do against Proctor in a shooting contest?
Speaker 3: I would beat them, beat me in the game, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat any of our guys still, I think, Dan.
Speaker 2: How do you coach a freshman as opposed to a
Speaker 2: junior senior.
Speaker 3: I just think for these guys there's a level of
Speaker 3: that they need to always hear the truth. You have
Speaker 3: to hit them right between the eyes. But also at
Speaker 3: the same time, you have to give them a really
Speaker 3: good confidence because they're going through something they've never experienced before.
Speaker 3: You know, even I'm like, I'm so impressed with the
Speaker 3: maturity these guys have. Playing in my first NCAA tournament
Speaker 3: game and I remember how I felt, and these guys
Speaker 3: haven't acted like it's.
Speaker 5: How did you feel.
Speaker 3: I felt, you know, jittery, you know, I felt, you know, pressure.
Speaker 3: You know. We are six seed playing Vcus an eleven seed,
Speaker 3: and you just I think there's a tendency then to
Speaker 3: when you're the higher seed, to play not to lose
Speaker 3: instead of playing to win. And so I've tried to
Speaker 3: just ingrain in them from day one in the preseason
Speaker 3: of being the hunters, you know, not the hunted, and
Speaker 3: just going after this thing. And they've embraced that and
Speaker 3: they've done that. But I think with the freshmen, just
Speaker 3: to continue to give them confidence at the same time
Speaker 3: of trying to prepare them for things that they hadn't
Speaker 3: seen before. And that's what I've tried to do.
Speaker 2: He's Duke's head coach John Shier joining us on the program.
Speaker 2: Take me back to the Butler National title game when
Speaker 2: you want Gordon Hayward wasn't your guy?
Speaker 5: Was he you were?
Speaker 3: He wasn't my guy in terms of me guarding him? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was ahead on the play that he got the left.
Speaker 3: So I think people always think about last half court shot,
Speaker 3: which is right there, the one before that he had.
Speaker 3: We were under out of bounds, we were up by
Speaker 3: one and he had an isolation play at the top
Speaker 3: of the key and he ended up shooting about like
Speaker 3: a fifteen footer from the baseline. I thought it was
Speaker 3: going in, Dan, I was right under the basket. It
Speaker 3: just probably if it's an inch shorter or it goes in,
Speaker 3: it goes long. So that shot, to me, was the
Speaker 3: one that scared me. I was already thinking about the
Speaker 3: how we were gonna win with the timeout or what
Speaker 3: we were going to do, but the half court shot
Speaker 3: was something I'll never forget and I just I felt
Speaker 3: to his off with the last second. I was ahead
Speaker 3: on the play, but but thank god he missed it.
Speaker 5: If he hit that shot, he becomes Latner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, And probably I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm the head coach to Duke. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I think the whole I think my whole life is.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things that could be
Speaker 3: different from from from that shot.
Speaker 5: But do you explain to your kids.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you feel this, but the
Speaker 2: Latner years, even JJ Reddick, people hated Duke.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 2: This is this is a team that people may root for,
Speaker 2: maybe not root against but they're not, you know, they're
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, Cooper Flag looks great. I mean, you
Speaker 2: got it seems like a fun team. They play, you know,
Speaker 2: great offense and defense. Are you guys embraceable?
Speaker 3: I share, hope so. And look, it's funny because I
Speaker 3: think we are always in brain. But like you said,
Speaker 3: I think it's a different feeling, and I can't explain
Speaker 3: why that is. I hope it's the fact that you
Speaker 3: have a group of really talented players that really embrace
Speaker 3: playing the right way.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's led to some beautiful offense and they're tough, you know,
Speaker 3: like they're not afraid of anything. So I think that
Speaker 3: combination maybe has been received well. But again not JJ
Speaker 3: Reddick was the same. I want. I don't know what
Speaker 3: it is. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Have you had the conversation with Cooper Flag about coming back?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 5: Just is there going to be a conversation?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: Although I can dream about that, yes you can, I
Speaker 3: just you know, I think that's all it is in
Speaker 3: this case. I think it's a dream. And uh, I
Speaker 3: think he's got to take the next dream in his
Speaker 3: life and be the topic in the NBA Draft and
Speaker 3: start his professional career.
Speaker 5: Before I let you go.
Speaker 2: Remember two to Steve Nash and he said during his
Speaker 2: career with Phoenix, coaches told him he was too unselfish.
Speaker 2: There are times where I see Cooper flag maybe too unselfish.
Speaker 2: The Phoenix Suns had to tell Steve Nash to shoot more.
Speaker 2: Is Cooper Flagg sort of in that it seems like
Speaker 2: he's really really engaged to get everybody involved. And maybe
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the detriment you're hit the
Speaker 2: final four, but are there times when you want him
Speaker 2: to be a little more selfish.
Speaker 3: I think you hit the nail on the head with him, Dan,
Speaker 3: because he's part of is what makes him so special
Speaker 3: is him bringing along as teammates and his feel for
Speaker 3: his passing. It is an incredible weapon for our team.
Speaker 3: But also he can want to defer at times to
Speaker 3: get them going and wor at our best. He's at
Speaker 3: our best when he's in complete attack mode. Teammates will
Speaker 3: get shots from that. But that's something I have to
Speaker 3: It's probably the biggest thing we have to get on
Speaker 3: him about and just making sure he's not deferring and
Speaker 3: continually just looking to dominate which he can.
Speaker 2: Good luck in the final four. John, great to connect
Speaker 2: with you again. Thank you, thanks for having me. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you and so John Shire.
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Speaker 2: Hello friends, Jim Dan's Hall of Famer lead play by
Speaker 2: playboye NFL and CBS host of The Masters on CBS.
Speaker 2: But this week, big time Houston Cougar fan Jim joining
Speaker 2: us on the program. How nervous do you get before
Speaker 2: watching your Cougars play?
Speaker 4: Before, during, and even after. I love hearing you say
Speaker 4: hello friends. By the way, that a good way to
Speaker 4: start my day, my friend. But I am so stoked
Speaker 4: about this weekend. Listen, we all have that little boy
Speaker 4: inside of us, you know that fan that still lives
Speaker 4: and has a place in your heart. What sports used
Speaker 4: to feel like. I have it with all things the
Speaker 4: University of Houston, so football, basketball, whatever it might be.
Speaker 4: But I am absolutely in love with this team. Kelvin Sampson,
Speaker 4: the head coach, He's just incredible and I will be
Speaker 4: there in the stands wearing red and cheering us on
Speaker 4: against the Mighty Duke Blue Devils come Saturday evening.
Speaker 5: How much did Fi slam a jama break your heart?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Big time?
Speaker 4: April fourth, nineteen eighty three, I was sitting in the
Speaker 4: stands in Albuquerque, in the pit at the opposite end
Speaker 4: from the Lorenzo Charles game winning basket. And you know
Speaker 4: that date, as you can tell, it was only forty
Speaker 4: two years ago. It's still is very much in my
Speaker 4: heart forty two years ago. Tomorrow it's it's front and center.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I got to tell you that was a pivotal day
Speaker 4: in my life and career because you know, people don't
Speaker 4: know this.
Speaker 6: It's more than just having gone to the school.
Speaker 4: My whole career really was channeled being on the golf
Speaker 4: team and the golf coach introducing me to Guy Lewis,
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame coach for Houston, who said, young man,
Speaker 4: I'd like it to be our public address announcer at
Speaker 4: our home basketball games. And that turned into me then
Speaker 4: while still a student, hosting his coaches show on the
Speaker 4: NBC affiliate. It gave me cred when I was just
Speaker 4: twenty years old. So yeah, it's been a long running
Speaker 4: love affair for some reason. They even have a banner
Speaker 4: now right next to the names of Elvin Hayes and
Speaker 4: Keem Elijah Won and Clyde Drexeler and Otis Birdsong. It's
Speaker 4: nuts commemorating my own NCAA tournament years and gifts of
Speaker 4: being able to do the tournament for so long. But
Speaker 4: in that eighty three game against NC State, I actually
Speaker 4: rode to the pit on the bus with the team.
Speaker 6: These were my buddies, you know.
Speaker 4: I named Clyde the Glide and we were just a
Speaker 4: very close knit group. Guy Lewis said, you come with us.
Speaker 5: Wait one came up with Clyde the Glide.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, you didn't know that.
Speaker 5: Did you come up with fi Islama Jama?
Speaker 6: I did not. Tom he bunk dead. Oh yeah, Tommy
Speaker 6: came up with that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wrote the forward to Clydes book, and you know
Speaker 4: we're fall of us. Are still great friends to this day.
Speaker 4: Well they showed up last year when they had that
Speaker 4: jersey banner race and I love these guys. Anyway, here
Speaker 4: we are at Albuquerque and I don't have a credential
Speaker 4: or a ticket.
Speaker 6: I just ride in with the team.
Speaker 4: Guy says, meet us back here after the game, get
Speaker 4: back to the hotel. So I go into this arena
Speaker 4: two and a half hours before the game, and where
Speaker 4: do you go. There are no seats with backs, There's
Speaker 4: only benches. And there in the corner, behind a basket
Speaker 4: was the CBS set and I looked up and there
Speaker 4: was Brent Musburger running through the elements of the show.
Speaker 4: He was hosting it. It was Gary Bender. I love Gary.
Speaker 4: Gary and Billy Packer were going to be calling the game,
Speaker 4: so I thought, that's where I'm gonna sit. I sat
Speaker 4: right up against the set. I mean, Brent was I
Speaker 4: really could have tied his shoes. It was that close,
Speaker 4: and I was just looking at him. I was the
Speaker 4: only guy in the arena. He was probably wondering, why
Speaker 4: is this punk hanging out this close? And I saw
Speaker 4: Bill Egan, a stage manager with whom I would later work,
Speaker 4: saying let's go through this.
Speaker 6: And I turn around. I saw there's a tunnel prompter there.
Speaker 4: And I can hear everything was three feet away from me,
Speaker 4: and I mean I was mesmerized it. The great Brent Musburger,
Speaker 4: who I adore and love to this day, was right there.
Speaker 6: And that was a thrill for me.
Speaker 4: Three years later, as fate would have it, Brent's now
Speaker 4: calling the games. CBS is in an arena that no
Speaker 4: longer exists in Dubtleas they have a set just like
Speaker 4: the one in Albuquerque.
Speaker 6: And I'm the guy that was sitting in that chair.
Speaker 4: Three years later in eighty six, I was hosting the
Speaker 4: Final Four and I was pitching it to Brent courtside
Speaker 4: at the start of the broadcast. So I've been given
Speaker 4: a lot of blessings, but that's a very big one.
Speaker 2: If I said, you can call one more Masters or
Speaker 2: one more.
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, but you have to choose withme on.
Speaker 2: What I'm a journalist. I got to ask these questions
Speaker 2: to It's a good problem to have. By the way,
Speaker 2: you could get problem Masters or one more super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I think you know the answer to that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'll let you answer it. You know the answer to
Speaker 4: that as I listen. I've been given the blessing of
Speaker 4: having I think it's the fourth most Super Bowl calls
Speaker 4: of all time type with Kurt Goudi. So they're they're
Speaker 4: they're all special. But I wouldn't trade the Masters for
Speaker 4: anything in the world. So yeah, it's important to me
Speaker 4: in a major championship golf. We have the BGA Championship
Speaker 4: that that means a lot to me, big time.
Speaker 6: I got to call the Open Championship over.
Speaker 4: On the BBC for a number of years when the
Speaker 4: BBC still had it was the foreign voice over there.
Speaker 4: The only one I've never called is the US Open,
Speaker 4: which you know, would have been a thrill to have
Speaker 4: the chance to do a national Open because I care
Speaker 4: so much about it. But the Masters is just it's
Speaker 4: it's again that little boy. We talked about what's inside here,
Speaker 4: what's inside the heart? I wanted to one of those voices.
Speaker 4: I didn't care about being on television. I want to
Speaker 4: be able to tell the stories like the voices of
Speaker 4: my youth were telling me long ago.
Speaker 2: He's Jim Nance and he will be calling the Masters.
Speaker 2: What is this the fortieth?
Speaker 6: It will be number forty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which in the broadcasting Longevity graphic.
Speaker 6: If you have it there, time can put it up.
Speaker 2: You're looking over it, Todd, he can't do it, Jim,
Speaker 2: Jimmy to barely get you on the phone.
Speaker 6: I tie the.
Speaker 4: Great Vern Lundquist for the broadcast longevity records.
Speaker 5: So this is a eleven year retirement tour. Is that
Speaker 5: what to sound?
Speaker 4: No, listen, I actually have it. We had this discussion
Speaker 4: on your show in twenty sixteen, Melissa Miller, my longtime
Speaker 4: chief of staff. This thing just went viral last week
Speaker 4: for no good reason. It was not the story. I
Speaker 4: just happened to say it in conversation. But when it
Speaker 4: gets fun, like I am or making an announcement, this
Speaker 4: is my retirement. I would never want that attention. I
Speaker 4: would never do that. I just happen to say, like
Speaker 4: I said on your show nine years ago, and I
Speaker 4: said to Richard Ditch, and I said to many other
Speaker 4: people out there through the years, Alex Myers and some
Speaker 4: other guys. I said, that would be, in the perfect world,
Speaker 4: my last show. I'd be able to make it if
Speaker 4: I could, God Willing, CDs Willing, Augusta Willing. I would
Speaker 4: love to get to the one hundredth playing of the
Speaker 4: Master's Tournament. And if that's the case, and if we
Speaker 4: did get there, that'd probably be my retirement. Take But
Speaker 4: I say that with a twinkle in my eye. Dan,
Speaker 4: I don't really think about it. I'm thinking about this
Speaker 4: show now. By the way, Maybe I don't make it there.
Speaker 4: Maybe I go beyond it. I don't want to start
Speaker 4: putting a countdown clock on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I got a shot for a gift for you,
Speaker 2: and so I don't know, do I have eleven years
Speaker 2: to get you something or.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah, don't get me one of those rocking chairs.
Speaker 5: No, no, I'm not going to get you that.
Speaker 4: You know the first time I said it, and you're
Speaker 4: one of the first ever said. And we did a
Speaker 4: whole show on this. My great teammate Kevin McHale, not
Speaker 4: the basketball player, got a countdown clock, and I showed
Speaker 4: up at our next golf event and it was in
Speaker 4: the corner of our tower and it said like twenty
Speaker 4: years eighteen days in the second was going like you
Speaker 4: see down to times square.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I thought it was funny. It was a
Speaker 6: nice gag gift.
Speaker 4: But there it was the next week and the week after,
Speaker 4: and it really made me uncomfortable. I did not like
Speaker 4: seeing my life go by like that. I said, you
Speaker 4: got to take that thing down. So I don't even
Speaker 4: want to think that way. No, there's no there's no
Speaker 4: announcement here. All I know is I'm less enough to
Speaker 4: be able to be there next week for the fortieth,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to give it my all with deep
Speaker 4: appreciation in my heart.
Speaker 5: Can you show up and just play golf at Augusta?
Speaker 4: No, no, I wouldn't probably show up anywhere and.
Speaker 6: Just assume anything. No, No, I would never do that.
Speaker 5: No, Okay.
Speaker 4: I've been as a guest, which has been a great gift.
Speaker 4: I played there a couple of times with Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 4: By the way, I just a name drop on you here.
Speaker 4: I was one of several of my greatest thrills. And
Speaker 4: I've had some really treasured invitations to play there, and
Speaker 4: I have through the years, most recently March a year ago.
Speaker 6: And you would you shoot, it was a big number.
Speaker 6: It was a really big.
Speaker 5: Three was it three digits? No, not that big, okay,
Speaker 5: not that big nineties bad lely.
Speaker 6: It's not that far away from it. Was not good.
Speaker 6: And it took me a long time before I've been
Speaker 6: registered a par now.
Speaker 4: I I used to, you know, I say, like, I
Speaker 4: played there a lot of times, but I would get
Speaker 4: stuck on You got to realize I'm in my sixties now.
Speaker 4: I mean I first started coming to Augusta when I
Speaker 4: was three and a half years out of college and
Speaker 4: I was twenty six years old.
Speaker 6: I could still hit it. I could hit it, I
Speaker 6: could take the.
Speaker 4: Club back to parallel and all these things I can't
Speaker 4: do any longer.
Speaker 6: And I could shoot in the mid to high.
Speaker 4: Se Those days are gone for me there at Augusta
Speaker 4: or anywhere else for that matter.
Speaker 2: I always marveled that you go from March Madness, where
Speaker 2: your voice is used differently, and a football game your
Speaker 2: voice is used differently, to then the Masters, where your
Speaker 2: voice is used differently, and you don't have that much
Speaker 2: separation between March Madness and the Masters, but just gearing
Speaker 2: up and voice wise, and then not gearing down. But like,
Speaker 2: how do you reset to go?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: This is my mindset's all different. My voice is completely different.
Speaker 6: I don't think about it at all.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to ask this question because if you did,
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound authentic to me. If you were to
Speaker 4: take your show right now and step outside from that
Speaker 4: warm fireplace environment you have, and you happen to walk
Speaker 4: outside and you were ringside for a UFC bout or
Speaker 4: you were right in the middle of Auburn and Alabama
Speaker 4: in football, and you continue your show with the next segment,
Speaker 4: would your voice be like this. No, it wouldn't be,
Speaker 4: because there'd be all this ambiance sound, there would be
Speaker 4: all this energy and excitement, and you would naturally feel
Speaker 4: like you have to push your voice to cut through that.
Speaker 4: I never have given that a thought in my life.
Speaker 4: I just go with whatever the environment feels like where
Speaker 4: I feel like I've got to take my voice. And
Speaker 4: August is not a screaming place. Golf isn't a screaming sport.
Speaker 4: It's much more mellow. It's more like, truthfully, it's more
Speaker 4: like the setting that I'm looking at you in right now.
Speaker 4: It's a conversation piece. I find it a great challenge.
Speaker 4: I know probably most people think, how challenging is it.
Speaker 4: It's not like calling a basketball game up and down
Speaker 4: the floor.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 4: I actually think it puts a premium on your ability
Speaker 4: to tell a story and to also be able to
Speaker 4: see what your skill set is as far as being
Speaker 4: able to communicate and your word choices and your phraseology
Speaker 4: and your ability to be succinct or long form storytelling.
Speaker 4: I actually think it's the greatest demand that I've ever
Speaker 4: had in my career, and I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people have done golf would say the same.
Speaker 2: Thing more concerned about the future of college basketball or
Speaker 2: the future of golf.
Speaker 4: Not concerned about the future of golf. It's been around
Speaker 4: for five hundred years.
Speaker 5: But with LIV.
Speaker 6: What about it?
Speaker 2: Those players playing there? What like do we merge? Does
Speaker 2: golf need to merge?
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that. Now lives, I
Speaker 4: think is in its fourth year. There hasn't been a
Speaker 4: whole lot of change in the last year. If you've noticed,
Speaker 4: the turnover has slowed down. Meanwhile, the PGA Tour is
Speaker 4: developing a lot of great young players. Let's take a
Speaker 4: guy like lou vig Oberg who might win next week,
Speaker 4: for example. I think the PGA Tour is doing just fine,
Speaker 4: and that's not an indictment of Live by any means.
Speaker 4: But my concern on your question is future college basketball
Speaker 4: that may not live as we know it another five
Speaker 4: hundred years, and may not live another fifteen years because
Speaker 4: the portal in the NIL it's difficult. I painted doom
Speaker 4: and glum. I don't want to say it's about to
Speaker 4: be extinct. It's not going to be. But what we
Speaker 4: knew it as what we grew up with, that doesn't
Speaker 4: that model doesn't exist anymore, and some people have a
Speaker 4: real problem with that. This is I want to put
Speaker 4: a pitch in here from my school here, the University
Speaker 4: of Houston, as we go into this weekend. We represent
Speaker 4: college basketball the way we used to know it better
Speaker 4: than anybody maybe in America. Our guys stay. We had
Speaker 4: everybody come back except Jamal shed who was done eligibility
Speaker 4: and went to the NBA. He was a great leader.
Speaker 4: I grieved that he's not being able to experience his
Speaker 4: final four. But we have guys that have been there
Speaker 4: four or five because of the extra COVID year, even
Speaker 4: six years for Juwan Roberts. And yeah, we have to
Speaker 4: play the nil game, but our guys aren't racing to
Speaker 4: the portal. They believe in their coach. There's a family
Speaker 4: culture there. They're all in and they love their school.
Speaker 4: They love their brotherhood and bonding with their teammates, and
Speaker 4: they love that Samson family. And in a day where
Speaker 4: we have to every year be reintroduced to major programs
Speaker 4: and say who are the newcomers this year, we're going
Speaker 4: to get to watch for one year, Well, Houston, we've
Speaker 4: gone through a long stretch and yet we've had to
Speaker 4: see guys graduate. But by and large, by and large,
Speaker 4: we are the model that won back in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Our guys stay and they care and it's neat to
Speaker 4: see the word loyalty still exist and not racing to
Speaker 4: a portal. I mean my last few years of doing basketball.
Speaker 4: I did the tournament for thirty seven years, either hosting
Speaker 4: or calling it. See five year players who were five
Speaker 4: different major Division one programs, even conferences. And you know,
Speaker 4: you bring a guy in, you train him, you coach him,
Speaker 4: and the next thing you know, the season ends and
Speaker 4: he's looking to see what opportunities are somewhere else. So
Speaker 4: I'm proud of this bunch. I'm proud of what Calvin
Speaker 4: has developed. And this is our seventh time at the
Speaker 4: Final four. That's a major number. Second and four years
Speaker 4: under coach Samson, but we've never won the championship. We've
Speaker 4: got to beat a good Duke team to get to
Speaker 4: Monday Night. But maybe this is our year. We still
Speaker 4: get undervalue and underrated that someone say to me yesterday, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you guys are good, but Duke's this, this and this
Speaker 4: and this.
Speaker 6: Okay. I hear that every game.
Speaker 4: I heard it going into the Tennessee game, orard it
Speaker 4: going into the Purdue game, or it going into the
Speaker 4: Big Twelve Conference, which we've been in for two years
Speaker 4: and we've absolutely run away with the conference two for two,
Speaker 4: very strong basketball conference.
Speaker 5: I like this. We'll see Jim nance fan. I like
Speaker 5: this the past.
Speaker 6: You know, you haven't had this before. I got to
Speaker 6: let it out somewhere, you know, And.
Speaker 5: I'm going to help you.
Speaker 2: When Ludwig Oberg wins and you go Oberg, oh my,
Speaker 2: is a tribute to Dick Enburg.
Speaker 6: I like that, you know.
Speaker 4: You know how much I treasure the history of our
Speaker 4: industry and the names of Yesterdyear and Dick worked the
Speaker 4: masters with us, probably the last ten years of his career.
Speaker 6: Oh my, Ludwig Oberg.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6: That's not bad. I'll put that one. I'll put that
Speaker 6: one older.
Speaker 4: What should I say when McElroy completes the career Grand
Speaker 4: Slam instead, come.
Speaker 6: On on the spot. You gotta feel it. It's got
Speaker 6: to be organic.
Speaker 5: It's glory for Rory he completes.
Speaker 6: That's not bad. Glory for Rory.
Speaker 5: Thank you, let's go, thank you.
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you right now, glory for Rory.
Speaker 5: It'll make the show wins next week.
Speaker 4: It may not be the final popcall, It'll be said
Speaker 4: somewhere from the end of the competition.
Speaker 6: So when we sign off the air the glory for Rory,
Speaker 6: I will be channeling you, Dan at that moment. You
Speaker 6: have my word right now.
Speaker 4: If McElroy wins, I'm going to say something about glory for.
Speaker 5: Rory and you don't have to mention my name. You
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you what kind of attribution
Speaker 4: Now we don't run credits at AUGUSTA, but maybe we
Speaker 4: can a graphic that says glory for Rory.
Speaker 2: Jim Worry, Jim Nance. Jim Nance's words provided by Dan Patrick.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 5: By the way I did.
Speaker 2: My bad moment was CBS when they tried to hire
Speaker 2: me years ago. Sean McManus, Yeah, yeah, you never heard
Speaker 2: this story. No, no, I was to hear it mid nineties.
Speaker 2: I'm a big deal at the Sports Center and he
Speaker 2: wants to hire me at CBS. He said, pick any job.
Speaker 2: You can pick any job. And then I said, but
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to CBS sport because that's
Speaker 2: all you. I think you just had basketball, you had
Speaker 2: just lost football or something.
Speaker 4: We had the NCAA tournament, yes, but I was going
Speaker 4: to also had we.
Speaker 6: Also had a little tradition unlike any.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't let me. They wouldn't have let me. It's
Speaker 5: not a sport.
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's a terrible championship. I know.
Speaker 2: But I said that I was going to take Pad
Speaker 2: O'Brien's job, and Sean says, pick a job, and then
Speaker 2: I was so smug and I go, but I don't
Speaker 2: want to go to CBS sport.
Speaker 5: It's terrible. I mean, we could have been cohorts.
Speaker 6: I feel like we are anyway we are we are.
Speaker 6: I mean I was talking about my Houston Cougar's and
Speaker 6: a brotherhood.
Speaker 4: I truly feel like we are. And there's some others
Speaker 4: that are kind of now we're in the same age
Speaker 4: bracket here. Yeah, we've all been fortunate enough to beat
Speaker 4: on the national broadcast for about the same length of time.
Speaker 5: Yep, very well.
Speaker 4: I think you know how much I love you and
Speaker 4: how bostome I know you are, So we have that.
Speaker 6: So I do feel like we're cohorts. Cohorts is what
Speaker 6: you call colleagues.
Speaker 2: Just remember it's glory for Rory. He is completed the
Speaker 2: career Grand Slam.
Speaker 6: You're wanting it right over the put now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oberg oh my ah, hey, what happened to the
Speaker 4: old sound alike contest we used to have about this
Speaker 4: time of year?
Speaker 2: Well, when you lost your own sound alike contest, I
Speaker 2: canceled it. We had somebody who sounded better as you
Speaker 2: than you, and I thought, you know what.
Speaker 4: I did, I lost. I lost a guy from I
Speaker 4: think he was from Arizona.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 4: I think we need to bring it back. I'll talk
Speaker 4: to my people, people, I'll talk to my people. We'll
Speaker 4: see if you can work it out.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you great talk to you. Have fun.
Speaker 6: Appreciate you. I love your pal and your colleague.
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Speaker 2: We got the final four coming up. Florida, Auburn, Houston
Speaker 2: and Duke. Duke was favored by four and a half.
Speaker 2: It went up to five and a half. I think
Speaker 2: that was two days ago. I kind of like Houston
Speaker 2: with the points there, Florida and Auburn. I'd like Auburn
Speaker 2: to win that out right now once again entertainment purposes.
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Speaker 2: Women's Final four Tonight, Texas against South Carolina, Connecticut against UCLA.
Speaker 2: The Raiders extend Gino Smith and the Cardinals locked up
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players and he plays for a
Speaker 2: team that's not very good. The Cards locking up Trey McBride.
Speaker 2: He's a tight end. I don't think he scores many touchdowns,
Speaker 2: but it feels like he is.
Speaker 5: He's all over the place. He had one hundred and
Speaker 5: eleven catches.
Speaker 2: And I just kept thinking, damn, this guy just he
Speaker 2: never stops, keeps coming backs. Now he's one of those
Speaker 2: He's good, but not that famous kind of guy.
Speaker 5: And you know, look, the league is littered with that.
Speaker 2: But when I watch the Cardinals play, I can't help
Speaker 2: but I can't take my eyes off Trey mcbrine just
Speaker 2: because he's involved constantly. But he got locked up by
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, so great, good for him. I'd love to
Speaker 2: be talking about Jahn Morant hitting a game winner, but
Speaker 2: I can't because it's Joamorant and he did it again,
Speaker 2: hit the game winner against the heat. And look, you're
Speaker 2: in a playoff push jockeying for position here both teams
Speaker 2: are and Jahn Morant had the game winner. Now this
Speaker 2: is the next game. After he did the gun gesture
Speaker 2: to Buddy Heel, he got a talking to by the
Speaker 2: commissioner and then he goes out and then last night
Speaker 2: does another gun gesture as well.
Speaker 5: This is similar.
Speaker 2: I think to hey, you got pulled over by the
Speaker 2: police and they give you a warning. Hey you're speeding,
Speaker 2: don't speed all right, officer? And then what do you do?
Speaker 2: You peel out and then you get pulled over again,
Speaker 2: Like what are you doing?
Speaker 5: I just told you I'm going to give you a warning. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: John Moran is forcing the NBA. He's forcing Adam Silver
Speaker 2: and he's really he's embarrassing the NBA. Now in a vacuum, Okay,
Speaker 2: is this a big deal?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know this?
Speaker 5: We have gestures, we have you know, unfortunately we have
Speaker 5: too much of that.
Speaker 1: And this.
Speaker 2: But you were warned. You've already been suspended a couple
Speaker 2: of times with a real gun. So when you have
Speaker 2: priors and you have a history. I just don't want
Speaker 2: this to be ten years from now, you go, remember
Speaker 2: that guy with Memphis Johnmer? Yeah, Lee, what could have been?
Speaker 2: I've seen phenomenal talents in all sports and then you
Speaker 2: just can't They can't help themselves. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if a teammate says, come on, do they have the
Speaker 2: guy who says, come on, your coach just got fired.
Speaker 2: I don't know what role he played in that. But
Speaker 2: you're in a playoff push, you've been suspended, and you
Speaker 2: point the imaginary gun again, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: You came in as a feel good story? This guy
Speaker 2: out of nowhere? How did people miss on this guy
Speaker 2: at Murray's State? Well, maybe we're starting to realize maybe
Speaker 2: why they missed out. Maybe there was stuff that was
Speaker 2: leading up to this. Off the court, he gives you
Speaker 2: highlights every single night. He's fascinating, phenomenal, but he's flawed
Speaker 2: because I don't know if anybody is really taking ownership
Speaker 2: of him because he's not. Is his dad or his
Speaker 2: dad just a cheerleader here? I mean, these are serious
Speaker 2: things because now you're affecting a career. Now are you
Speaker 2: going to get suspended the rest of the regular season.
Speaker 2: Now you affect other people. If he wants to do
Speaker 2: something on Instagram live with a gun. Okay, you can
Speaker 2: be stupid, but this is where you're affecting an entire city,
Speaker 2: a coaching staff, and your teammates.
Speaker 5: Just play great basketball. You don't have to be a gangster.
Speaker 6: Just play.
Speaker 2: Be great. But you get to a certain point where
Speaker 2: he's over twenty five. It's like, man, when he was
Speaker 2: twenty two, he was Anthony Edwards. Well now we're twenty five,
Speaker 2: and you wonder where are we going with this? He's
Speaker 2: I don't know. Are you all in? Do you want
Speaker 2: to be a basketball player? Do you want to be
Speaker 2: a star, Do you want to be a leader. Do
Speaker 2: you want to be the poster or child? Do you
Speaker 2: want to be first or second team?
Speaker 5: All invY?
Speaker 2: And maybe you don't. I could only approach this. It's
Speaker 2: almost parental that I look at this like somebody you
Speaker 2: got to grab somebody and say and if this you
Speaker 2: know the suspension didn't work where it cost him millions
Speaker 2: of dollars because you had a gun, and then you
Speaker 2: had a gun again, and now you're doing the fake gun,
Speaker 2: and then you do the fake gun again. At some
Speaker 2: point somebody's got to help him because he's not going
Speaker 2: to help himself. And maybe he doesn't know got a
Speaker 2: big contract here, but yeah, I saw it again last night,
Speaker 2: and we should be talking about what a clutch play.
Speaker 2: Got the ball you went on the road, and then
Speaker 2: he does that. All right, we'll come up with a
Speaker 2: pole question in here. It's one of those where now
Speaker 2: the commissioner is going to have to act, and I
Speaker 2: don't know what he'll do. I mean, I think what
Speaker 2: he should do is say I can't put up with this.
Speaker 2: Given how polarizing this issue is in America, with guns,
Speaker 2: everything that's happened, we can't be cavalier about this. It
Speaker 2: can't be all fun in games and this goofy and hey,
Speaker 2: you know, bang bang Nope, nope, nope, no, no. I
Speaker 2: would suspend him and then see how the team does
Speaker 2: the rest of the regular season. But that would be
Speaker 2: you know, I go to the old school. I go
Speaker 2: to the David Stern school, you know. And then John
Speaker 2: Moran says that he doesn't care what people saying anymore
Speaker 2: negative comments. Yeah, he says, I'm used to it pretty
Speaker 2: much a villain for two years now. Who who made
Speaker 2: you a villain. You made you a villain, You were
Speaker 2: a feel good story. People loved watching you play. You
Speaker 2: made you. Nobody else did. And as I said when
Speaker 2: I came on, I'd love to be talking about man.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: Somebody wants the ball in a clutch situation and they
Speaker 2: hit a big shot and you're navigating your playoff seating here,
Speaker 2: but instead we're not.
Speaker 5: That's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: And I know you have NBA players say, oh, you guys,
Speaker 2: just focus on the negative stuff. Help me not focus
Speaker 2: on the negative stuff. Okay, I'd be more than happy
Speaker 2: to talk about how great Joker was the other night
Speaker 2: and Steph Curry was the other night, which I did.
Speaker 2: But then you get these resets where you're like, come on,
Speaker 2: and especially a repeat offender. That's the disappointing part of
Speaker 2: all of this. Did you learn anything? Apparently it didn't.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 5: What's pole question today?
Speaker 3: There's a fun one.
Speaker 9: It's not really a pole question, but it's a very
Speaker 9: fun fill in the blank if you will. From Paul Yer,
Speaker 9: which fan base has no sense of humor about itself
Speaker 9: or their team, we can populate that. Okay, is that
Speaker 9: I start with the Cowboys, then we might call this
Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys poll question.
Speaker 5: But teams that have no sense of humor about themselves.
Speaker 10: Yes, we're trying to fill out a pole question about
Speaker 10: teams and fan bases that have no sense of humor
Speaker 10: about themselves. So when we put forth that name of
Speaker 10: that fan base, they're not gonna have a sense of
Speaker 10: humor by being on the pole question.
Speaker 9: It's like a cycle inspired by the Buffalo Bills, obviously
Speaker 9: of Yankee Yankee fans.
Speaker 5: Yankee, Sure we could do that. Who else doesn't have
Speaker 5: a say?
Speaker 9: I mean, I guess the Lakers too?
Speaker 5: Really? Okay?
Speaker 10: Who else fan bases that are defensive fan bases when
Speaker 10: you call them out, like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 10: say their names. But there's some sec schools that if
Speaker 10: you critique them.
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, you can't come up with a pole question.
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't want to say it.
Speaker 10: Okay, schools like Alabama and Ohio State if you jab
Speaker 10: them lightly, they go scorched earth back on and other
Speaker 10: schools as well.
Speaker 5: But those are like peak, Yeah, what's gonna happen? What
Speaker 5: you mentioned? Ohio State?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Are they sensitive? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Alabama? Yes they are?
Speaker 9: Actually yeah, you know now that I think about a
Speaker 9: Michigan fans take themselves very serious.
Speaker 2: Yes, well about the National Championship and the cheating scandal.
Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Michigan men take themselves very a Michigan.
Speaker 10: Man richies in line for.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 5: Yes, Patriots fans over the years, with the deflate gates.
Speaker 6: And the stealing signs and manipulative things there.
Speaker 9: Were, Patriots were targeted with two of the most ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Wait now you're me and a Patriot fan being defensive.
Speaker 9: I mean they're obviously Roder Goodell. Both of those have
Speaker 9: been already debunked. The ideal gas law, and everybody knows
Speaker 9: the flight gates, everybody knows spiking you go. But anyway,
Speaker 9: so I wouldn't put.
Speaker 2: The play in the victims yep, Okay, I'd put the
Speaker 2: Patriots on there. Okay, all I think, do you want
Speaker 2: to have that as the poll question? I thought we
Speaker 2: were going to maybe, you know, kind of go positive
Speaker 2: today it's a Friday. You thought that I did? I
Speaker 2: did that quickly changed here