1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: My homophobic on knuckle won't let me sleep with my husband, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: so my dad got them evicted. I maled twenty seven 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and married to a man male twenty eight. Oh yeah, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I had only ever dated women before him, but when 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: I met him, I realized I was by and we 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: fell in love. Good for you, Opie, Hell yeah, low key. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: Opie's husband must be a snack of a man. Oh 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: to be the man that makes him realize he's by 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: his cakes. Oh, cakes must be breaking through those pants. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Don't put that man in tight pants, don't break out. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: We got married in the fall of twenty eighteen, so 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: it's been almost four years and we now live in Vermont. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: My whole family is from a small town in Texas, 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: super conservative Catholic area. I was raised there, but my 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: dad got a job in New York City when I 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: was fifteen. 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: The culture shock was difficult. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: We went from living in rural Texas to living in 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: an apartment in Manhattan, which is like two areas of 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the US that are completely separate, opposite. It's like you're like, well, 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: one moment you're you're rideing a cow into school, the 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: next you're getting mugged. 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: You'll give me your Jordans. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: My parents didn't sell our house in Texas. They allowed 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: our aunt and uncle, who had just had their third child, 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: to move in while charging them just a small amount 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: of friends in college. When I came out as by 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: my brother and dad were very supportive. My mom needed 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: some time to accept. The rest of the family reacted 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: poorly at first, but then came around, which I feel 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: like is like most conservative families in Texas. 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: Rural Texas sounds like it. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: During visits, we stayed with my aunt and uncle at 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: my old house, but because we weren't married, we weren't 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: allowed to share a bed, which is like, you know, 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: classic conservative. 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The question is is that the real reason 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: the marriage? The real reason? 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: We'll find out. We didn't argue. We both would rather 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: make peace visiting. Since instead of staying with my uncle 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: we usually rent a motel room. During COVID, we did 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: not visit them. But this summer my parents and brother 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: decided to go visit my hometown again for two weeks 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: and invited my husband and I. I wanted a motel again, 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: but my aunt and uncle insisted my brother, husband and 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: I stay with them. 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Okay, have they turned a corner? Wow? Well that's see John. 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: The first night the sleeping situation was discussed after my 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: cousins went to bed, my aunt and uncle wanted my 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: brother and I to take the spare bedroom and have 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: my husband on the couch. 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, all three. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Of us took issue with this. It all comes out. 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: They okay, ah, there we go. They snapped that we 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: were not really married because we were gay. Yikes, bro, yikes. 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean like, at this point, it's law even. 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: It's literally there's no there's no grounds left to debate. 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: Also, it's like I feel like, I feel like this 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: isn't like this is like old news, Like why why 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: are they why are they. 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: Still being so big at it? 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: They said they had children in the house and it 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: will be a bad influence on their kids. 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh, don't let them catch the kay you can't. 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: This is ridiculously, dude, This is ridiculous. This hurt my 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: husband's feelings and he started crying and ran out of 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: the room. When my husband ran out, my uncle had 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: the audacity to start laughing. That's when I saw red, 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: bro all right, Like, why would you invite them over 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: if you're. 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Going to be such dicks? Literally, this is so bad. 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I started cussing them out so loudly that my young 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: cousins came to investigate. I told them that if they 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: didn't go apologize to my husband immediately, that I was 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: going to tell my dad what just happened, and I 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: was going to make sure to have them kicked out 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: of this home because it's still in my parents' name, 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: which is like, damn, you got that card to play? 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: Got it? My bro? Second? 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Did that's a weird word? Everything that I was saying. 82 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: They started backtracking then and saying that we were welcome 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: in their house, but we just had to follow their rules, 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: and I responded. 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's not your house, is it. 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Though I told them they were going to be homeless 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: if I had it my way, damn or the throat. 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: The kids started crying because they heard me say they 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: were going to be homeless, So we left. 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Do I have to use this asphalt as a pillow? 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to cuddle the o possums for warmth? 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: Now, buddy, son, you might be homeless, but at least 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: you won't be gay. 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: Actually though, that's what they would actually say. 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: That's what they're that's literally My husband was on the 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: porch crying. I promised him that I would never subject 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: him to that again. I told my dad what happened. 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: To say that my dad was angry would be an understatement. 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: He served them a notice of eviction for sixty days, 100 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: so they got two months to get out of the house. 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: I've been getting calls and texts and Facebook messages from 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: my family calling. 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: Me an ahole. 104 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I want to know, am I the a hole for 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: allong my young cousins to end up a homeless Is 106 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: it fair they have to pay for what my aunt 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: and uncle said to me and my husband. 108 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: I think the cousins on the street is a bonus. 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: Just really make them all, bro. 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: I mean this it's it's a tricky situation obviously, because 111 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: like you said, like, okay, these kids, these kids are now. 112 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm guessing that the family doesn't make 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: a lot, yeah, which is why the dad like rented 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: it out so cheap, and they're like worried about being 115 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: homeless or whatever. All they have to do is let 116 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: them live their life. Yeah, that's all they have to do. 117 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: That's all they have to do, Bro, That's it. 118 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: And they couldn't do that, and they couldn't do when 119 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: they were threatened with eviction. 120 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: And then what's so tragically hilarious is like their response 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: them thinking they're like smoothing things over. It's like, oh no, 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: it's totally okay that you hear, but you just can't 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: infect us with with your gayness. 124 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: It's like brow. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: The tragic thing is they think they're protecting their kids. 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: That's the tragic. 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really really fucking sad. 128 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the hard thing about like like just 129 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: like your mental frameworks are buried this deep because you 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: don't even realize like how terrible you're being. Like they 131 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: probably think they're being like they. 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Think they're being reasonable. 133 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, them, this is probably like a give of like Okay, 134 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: usually we wouldn't tolerate this, you know, want you and 135 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: I'll let you in the house and will be nice 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: to you. 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: I will let you in that house. Yeah, will let 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: you in the house. Yeah. 139 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Fuck, dude, I feel like living in a city you 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: think you've like yeah, there's definitely and stuff, and being 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: inundated with an ideology for like forty fifty years. That's 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: not a simple thing to change dismantle. It's hard to 143 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: dismand it's very hard. I think actually that like you 144 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: knows as much flak as I'll give, like TikTok for 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: corrupting the youth Andrew tape memes, like it also exposes. 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: People to so many different ideologies. 147 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: But actually, you know, it feels like out with with 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: the algorithms, it's doing the reverse now. It's like like 149 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the Internet used to be, like YouTube used to be 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: a place where you would get exposed to people from 151 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: all around the world, and now the YouTube and TikTok 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: are becoming these places where you're exposed to continue like 153 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: the things that. 154 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: You already believe. 155 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like it's like switching, but at 156 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: least you have, you know, you have the potential of 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: like breaking your bubbles. 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: It is all out there, but it's like what will 159 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: actually be. Yeah, And at this point, like the argument 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: could be made of like, oh, well, you know what 161 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: exists and people can search and like you can. 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: It's like almost like people. 163 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Don't even realize we have a podcast and we say 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: it every actually every frigging episode. 165 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Literally full discussion on Spotify. Guys. Every day we tell. 166 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: You, guys, we have a freaking behind. For the last 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: four hundred days we have God. We could leave it 168 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: at that. 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: There we go