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Speaker 1: danzas Greg Rosenthal. That was Mark Sessler who heard there,

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. Tom Curran, welcome back to around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? Tremendous? Thanks for having me. How's

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Speaker 1: buzine house, don't you who's your comedian friend. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Like our friend Dave Damachek likes to say, everyone thinks

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Speaker 1: they're funny, but no one but Tom Kerran with the

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Speaker 1: one liners. Um, well, now there's a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on Tom. You say that after the conversation like this,

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Speaker 1: just once again a reminder of how funny time is.

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Speaker 1: But now Tom has to performs in a way. Mr Curran,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. And uh, you

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Speaker 1: know how what was your first reaction when you you

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Speaker 1: The first reaction was, there goes another day sacrificed at

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Speaker 1: notes and the column I wrote guys, was basically that

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Speaker 1: But you talked about Tom Brady the man, and after

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Speaker 1: you work with who you just couldn't work with anymore.

429
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Speaker 1: If you see him some place for twenty minutes like

430
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: that was, it's great to see you. I want to

431
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: work with him. No, could you see him though? Like

432
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichi, because I think some of the stuff

433
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: that drives me nuts is this, do Belichick and Brady

434
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: like respect each other? Are their careers not the same?

435
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: Because you know you've got Jimmy Johnson going out on

436
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's yacht with him and all that. Could you

437
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: see like the relationship between the two of them turning

438
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: into something where you look back in a different way

439
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: beyond the business of the Patriots, where Brady and Belichick

440
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: are out on that yacht and just enjoying the fact

441
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: that they changed football history together, or is there something

442
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: thorny er there? I could absolutely see that, and I

443
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: could see it in a way that we wouldn't find

444
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: out about it until three weeks after it happened. You might,

445
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: but well I might, But chances are I wouldn't because

446
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: they know that it would go immediately right to telling everybody,

447
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: and they would want to be private about it. But

448
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: I think that they could in the realm of we've

449
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: shared it so much together, we did so much together,

450
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: and we've never had a relationship that is away from football.

451
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: So Belichick changes drastically. I'm sure you can hear from

452
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: any number of former Patriots, whether it's been Willie mc

453
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: guinness or guys who have come through uh NFL media

454
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: who were with the Patriots. Can you know, have testimony

455
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: to how much Bill changes after someone is not their

456
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: employee anymore. And Belichick really did that after that game

457
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: last year at Tampa. Spent twenty five minutes after a

458
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: primetime game in the locker room talking to Brady. So

459
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: the damn Bluses back to Tampa had to wait, which

460
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: is probably big foot in the whole situation. But think

461
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: about that. So, um yeah, I could. I could see it,

462
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: But I just don't think it's gonna be them sitting

463
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: down and throwing de ritos at each other and gambling

464
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: on the couch. I could. I could hear Tom curR

465
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: and on Tom Brady all daylight. I'm curious how how

466
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: your relationship is with time over the years. He was,

467
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: He's pissed at me for what basketball team is that?

468
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: To remember before the Bucks game when the Patriots played

469
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: the Bus. Yes, um, so when they were playing the

470
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Bucks and Brady was coming back about a week earlier,

471
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: I was doing all kinds of pre Brady stuff. Here's

472
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: the house that he lived in when he was in

473
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: two thousand and here's this, and I was trying to,

474
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, do that reporting. So of course for the

475
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: million of time, I called Mr Brady. So Mr Brady

476
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: is on with me and we're talking, and he said

477
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: something about the Patriots being wrong, and I said, so,

478
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: do you feel vindicated? Mr Brady? And then I said this,

479
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: Tom feel vindicated? He said, damn right, And of course

480
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: it went kind of, you know, viral, because it was

481
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: the first pop off before the game, and Tom just

482
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: expressed to be the email. I didn't appreciate you asking

483
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: my father to speak me. Um. He took advantage of him,

484
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, I would never do that to

485
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: the guy. But at this juncture, I think we'd be

486
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: fine if we talked. But he's not been psyched. And

487
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I understand about it. I can

488
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with him for twenty five years,

489
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: but at a point if he feels like you're leveraging

490
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: a relationship in a way that he's complicating for him,

491
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: I get it. I do get it. Well, I do hope.

492
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: I do hope you get to the point, Tom, or

493
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: are you in Tom Brady, are thrown deritos at each other?

494
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: Imagine that Tom about the prof at the Hall of

495
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Fame and have him removed. Um, Tom, thank you so

496
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: much for giving us some time. I know you're the

497
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: busiest man in sports media around your parts right now,

498
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: so that is much appreciated. And uh yeah, let us

499
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: know any updates, any emails you get from the goat.

500
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: We'd love to keep you guys posted. It's been quiet since.

501
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Let me know if he asked about me. If you

502
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: see him, alright, than great. Tom Curran never disappoints. Um,

503
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: good stuff. All right, let's take a break. We'll be

504
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: right back. H Holly Woold something something something Holly Woold,

505
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: where your dreams are made and also crushed. It's a

506
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: tough town. Okay. Um, before we get to some quarterback talk,

507
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: we just talked Tom Brady. This is something I wanted

508
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: to do since really I saw the trailer for eighty

509
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: four Brady for the first time, which, if you're not

510
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: aware of eighty four Brady, be what it is. Our producer,

511
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Justin Graver, is going to give a very concise summary

512
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: of what the film is about. Grave Digger. Yes, so

513
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: the film, Oh, Justin, what's up? Sorry? I thought if

514
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: you cue me, I don't have to do that. It's

515
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: it's a little complicated, right, Okay. Anyway, the film is

516
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: about four women in their older stages who jarinarians. Is

517
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: that I think the genius octogenarians? The first time I've

518
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: heard that term who really want to see Tom Brady

519
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: play football, so they decide they're going to make a

520
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: road trip to see him play trip against the Falcons

521
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty one to whichever one that was um,

522
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: which ended up being you said something something again, an

523
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: old grave diggers in a big heap of mess because

524
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: not only his grave digger after he gets dinged he

525
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: says it, he gets thinged if he misses any of

526
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: us saying it and doesn't call it out. So right

527
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: now he's down five bucks, Greg, all the way down

528
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: to fifty. He's up to fifteen in the hole right now.

529
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Graver acknowledged that this will be one of the first

530
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: episodes in a in a long time that he's actually

531
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: listening to what we're saying while it's happening. Yeah, yeah,

532
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I two owt you know, I gotta hang on

533
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: every word here, sometimes, says our producer. You know I

534
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: learned from the best Ricky Hollywood taught me. Well, um, anyway,

535
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: nice breakdown. It's a Legends of the screen Rita Moreno,

536
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Sally Field, Jane Fonda, Lily Tom And I'm asking you, folks,

537
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: how much does this movie make? And its opening weekend?

538
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Because I think it's kind of a fascinating test here

539
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: in Tinseltown because nobody really knows exactly who the movies for.

540
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Gregg says it's for his mother and her. Um, I

541
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: guess friends or whatever. So if you're if you're a

542
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: person in New England, um, maybe a woman in New England,

543
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: baby boom, I don't really have a sound draft for that.

544
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: So you have that market cornered obviously, people that are

545
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: born in the maybe early fifties or so, there are

546
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: women that live in that exact region of the country.

547
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: How much money will this film make opening weekend closest

548
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: without going over prices? Right rules, Uh, and we'll figure

549
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: out what the winner gets. Great digger, We're gonna let

550
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you get in on this as well. Mark you first.

551
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I will go eleven point eight million. Eleven point eight million, Okay,

552
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I like that. Can I get some some of the

553
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Tinseltown music back? Only? Better? Go ahead? Great? Why don't

554
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: you go next? All right? UM? I did do a

555
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: little cursory research. I checked in what is a like

556
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: a football movie? Draft Day came out nine years ago, um,

557
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: and that that pulled in nine point eight million. Now

558
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: you gotta adjust for some that's not a terrible I

559
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: thought it would have been lower for Draft Day. I

560
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: think that this movie will do worse than that Factory

561
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: and Inflict. Yeah, it will make about nine even nine

562
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: even for for Brady. Okay, well, you are accounting for inflation.

563
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna account for the pandemic and the decreasing box

564
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: office very smart, very widely. I'm looking at the last

565
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: weekend's box office. Left behind colon The Rise of Anti

566
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Christ debuted with two point three million. I feel like

567
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is um a christ like figure to some,

568
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: so he'll do better than that, but not much better.

569
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Let's go three million. Potentially way overshot this thing. I mean,

570
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I'm gonna go low. That's an

571
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: absolute bomb. If that's that's that's a that's an all

572
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: times Alright. How about you better? This is better. You

573
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: want something cinematic and big, and I feel like you

574
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: just stepped onto Hollywood Boulevard right. That other one was

575
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: called Hollywood fanfare. But yeah, okay, um, I'm gonna go

576
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: with four point six million. So you boxed in Greggy, right,

577
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: That's my whole thing was just like that was the

578
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: closest I could get to getting a dollar. Basically, I

579
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: was taking taking low Greggy boxed in a big spot.

580
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I think I think Grave Digger is the Vegas favorite

581
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: in my mind, but obviously not in your. But you know,

582
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: in most games on the show, the producer loses. We

583
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: got a factor that in as well. I mean, I've

584
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: got to get it between three and four and a half,

585
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: So that's got Dinny's small window. I'm hating what I

586
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: did because the last five times I've been to the

587
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: movie theater, they've been about fifteen people in there. It's

588
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: eighty for Brady uh In. Eight people that go to

589
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: this time say yeah, five of the six feels like

590
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: a nice number. But I was trying to at that

591
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: one dollar thing in Graver ticket for me. But that's

592
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: how the games played. Um, and just to put a

593
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: button on the Tom current conversation, that was great. Could

594
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: have done an hour on that. One of the reasons

595
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: we're not doing an hour on that. This first all

596
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Tom want to agree to that, I'm sure, but also

597
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: or maybe it would it's a good dude, um, But

598
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: also I know some people are kind of braided out

599
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: at this point. You're trying to do that, especially now

600
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: it's a second retirement. But I think having someone like

601
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: Tom that really you know, it was boots on the

602
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: ground and had a relationship with all the people involved.

603
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: And you know, Greggy, I don't know why I you

604
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: always think that it's not that question about the Patriots.

605
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't me like hoping for bitterness between the two sides. Yeah, Like,

606
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I think I think it's time to I think he's

607
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: above a one day retirement. I don't think that's something

608
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. But I would be unfortunate if

609
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: there's a cold war and that's kind of what their

610
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: situation is moving forward. But it was a great question,

611
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: and I know that because it inspired surprising and compelling answer.

612
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: So you did a good a good job. Thank you, Daddy. Hey,

613
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: let's play a game. Let's well, it's not a game.

614
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Let's help people. Let's head into the old. Imagine like

615
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: a police station. Now we're talking about old Hollywood. Now

616
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: imagine an old police station. You walk up the marble

617
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: steps and you head into the big doors, and here

618
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you are inside headquarters. And now we head into like

619
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: the meeting room. Dragnet style, Dragnet style. I never saw

620
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: the show, but I think I get the rest. I

621
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: mean it was not on while you were It was

622
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: not a vibrant prime time offering during your lifetime or mine.

623
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't. But what we're gonna, undoubtedly by a few years,

624
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: we are going to take a look at the remaining

625
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: or the quarterbacks of note who are in limbo right now.

626
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna it's a case file study. And uh, we're

627
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna go through the files. We're gonna pull the files

628
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: on these quarterbacks, these mysteries. We're gonna try to kind

629
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: of crack the case on where are these quarterbacks? And

630
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: up Tom Brady, pick up the file, tossing in the garbage.

631
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Put in the circular file. Put in the circular file.

632
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Garbage can round, garbage can? So

633
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: is that what that is? I never knew what the

634
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: circular file. We're filing that away for good learning so

635
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: much in this episode today. Um, so let's pull the

636
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: file open. What do you gotta pull a name full file? Uh,

637
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: let's let's start with the guy we were just talking

638
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: about in the playoffs, Danny Dimes. You're pulling the Dimes file,

639
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, because this young man I think is in

640
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: line potentially to make more guap than anyone in this

641
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: this filing cabinet outside of perhaps Lamar Jackson, but Daniel

642
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Jones might be a little more motor waited to get

643
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: that money fast. There are reports in New York people

644
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: are throwing out like that he could make forty million dollars.

645
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but I do believe that the

646
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: Giants will believe his market is strong enough that they're

647
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: not letting him go, that they're gonna tag him if

648
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: at all possible, if they can't get a deal done. Yeah,

649
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: bus there's uh some there's the information coming right out

650
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: of Giants headquarters that GM Joe, you know, Joe Shane,

651
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: basically said we want him back. They said they've been

652
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: consistent about that. It's hard to imagine that they go

653
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: nowhere at quarterback. They've got nothing when Daniel Jones, I

654
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: think over the course of an evaluation season one over

655
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, do you think with all this though,

656
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of saying something publicly while also

657
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: examining what the market could be like privately. Now, I

658
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: don't know who would be in that market for the Giants.

659
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: It's probably not Lamar Jackson and if it's not Lamar Jackson,

660
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: where's the upgrade. But Brian Dable has to be feeling

661
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: himself a little bit after making Daniel Jones look that

662
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: good and feel like he could do it with different quarterbacks.

663
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm not totally ruling out like a tag in trade

664
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: here or something surprising. I don't know. I don't know.

665
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: The ownership seems to love Daniel. I find I'm struggling

666
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: to find another team that would do that. This is

667
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: this feels to me like the Giants value Daniel Jones

668
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: higher than anyone else, and I think they see him

669
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: as a talent who was making real progress in the

670
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: first year under Dable, and maybe they can get him

671
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: under a manageable contract while also maybe he takes the

672
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: next step. I think that they won't say it. They're

673
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: not gonna say it, but I think the Giants, some

674
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: of those people in that build are like, we think

675
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: he could be like Josh Allen could be that guy. Yeah,

676
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: there there are similarities to Josh Allen in terms of

677
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: the way the table can use them. But their owner

678
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: absolutely loves Daniel Jones, the person, the guy, everything, and

679
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: that was a big um influence on Eli Manning staying

680
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: there as long as he did was ownership and that

681
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: that could be a factor. But you said who would

682
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: want him? I mean plenty of teams would want him.

683
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean you said that they like him more there.

684
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I think teams like the Colts, the Texans, the Panthers,

685
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Speaks. You just never know a lot of

686
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: that speaks the fact that this so called like carousel

687
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks gets real stale after two or three names. Yeah,

688
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: and we and here's the thing, we thought that last

689
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: year that there actually wouldn't be that much movement. Remember

690
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: that was the conventional wisdom at the scouting combine that

691
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: late in the off season, well relatively, I mean it's

692
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: still before free agency. And then it ended up going

693
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: crazy and everyone changed teams. And so I guess I

694
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: don't put Daniel Jones aheaded so far ahead of these

695
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: other names that like a surprise couldn't becoming. Some of

696
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: these teams have high draft picks too. I wonder if

697
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: that could get involved, Like the Giants are one team

698
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: and they have a coach, you can develop quarterbacks that

699
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: they could get creative if they wanted. I think we

700
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: got this case figured out. Let's close this case he's

701
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: going back to the Giants. Let me dig back into

702
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: the file here. It's a big it's a big case,

703
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: and it's a tough one because everyone's got their eyes

704
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: on us on this one. Gotta get this one right.

705
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: We gotta kind of close this one. Aaron Rodgers. There's

706
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: so much evidence here pointing to the Jets. There's so

707
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: much they're the culprit here. We're gonna put the collar

708
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: on the Jets on this one. I'm gonna give you

709
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: eight reasons real quick here, eight and tell me disagree

710
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: wherever you disagree. Are the Jets openly pining for a

711
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback? Would Rogers be by far the best veteran

712
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: QB on the market? Yes? Is there a connection between Rogers? No?

713
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I would say if Lamar is somehow available. Now it's

714
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: the answer. If we're viewing Lamar is available and would

715
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: not pull the file if we have to? Okay, Lamar,

716
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: Shir Rodgers and Nathaniel Hackett. Is there a connection there?

717
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: The new offensive coordinator? Correct? Are Robert Saloon Joe Douglas

718
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: entering playoff for goodbye type seasons for the Jets? Correct?

719
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Would the would Rogers give the Jets huge national pop

720
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: put them back on prime time. Take the headlines from

721
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: the Giants. Oh yeah, has what he made a big

722
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: splash since he came back as the acting owner. Nobody's

723
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: hinted at wanting to do so. Zach Wilson remember him?

724
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: Does he have a relationship with Rogers that's deemed to

725
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: be close? Allowing the Jets to sell it is not

726
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: only getting Aaron Rodgers, but here's a mentor ship for

727
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: our young quarterback. We're not giving up on story. That's

728
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: a yes, But it's like way eight, did Brett Farve

729
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: come to the Jets via trade? Be the same ownership

730
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and the same teams involved. History is instructive. Chris Wesley

731
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: was known to say, now, is there another team that

732
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: could come in, swoop in and make a big play

733
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: for Rodgers? Absolutely, but I don't think any team is

734
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: a as desperate as the Jets be have the need

735
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: that the Jets have at this level compared to what

736
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: else is going on with their roster. It just would

737
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: surprise me at this point if it doesn't happen. That's

738
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: where I stand. Dragnet, Yeah, you can give them You've

739
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: got the thirteenth overall pick. If you're the Jets. You've

740
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: got other assets you can move. I I don't feel

741
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: as certain as you do, because I think if you're

742
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: a Green Bay you've got to work with Aaron Rodgers

743
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: on some level. If there's a trade, And I'm not

744
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: convinced that Aaron Rodgers would see it as a match,

745
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: why not? I I just I think the problem and

746
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: you would understand this better than anyone chief that the

747
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: Jets have imm No, the Jets have historical issues that

748
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I think make them like that override the current bubblingus

749
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: around some of their roster. Positive players think that though

750
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: I know we think about it that way, a tortured

751
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: franchise that is failed. I think that if you're Aaron Rodgers,

752
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: you're very much about your legacy and this is the

753
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: tail end of your career. I mean, he's been wayne

754
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: retirement year after year and it's like staying in Green

755
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: Bay from one more year. Fine, you kind of know

756
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get there. Potentially, the Jets are an

757
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: absolute raging X factor wildcard landing spot for someone like

758
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I hear what you're saying, but I hear

759
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers has been saying. In Pat mcavie, and

760
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I think he went out of his way to complement

761
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: the Jets specifically and their talent that they have. And

762
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: to me, I think he cares more about that who

763
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: the receivers are, and I think he'd be excited about

764
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: the receivers there. The money thing is interesting. The Jets

765
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: would have to cut a lot of players. Uh, you'd

766
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: have to pay him. I think it's sixty million dollars

767
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: this year. There are guys like Lawson there, Braxton Barrios

768
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: if you pop the hood on their on their team,

769
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: even C. J. Moseley if they had to make something

770
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: more portant Whitehead. But those guys are all played like

771
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: eight hundred snaps. I'm just saying, you know, whether they're saying,

772
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I think, I think where they are as a team,

773
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: they would swallow hard and say we trust Bob Solid

774
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: to keep the defense where it needs to be and

775
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: get this guy to save our offense. I think the

776
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: thing that you have going for you is that Woody

777
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Johnson has already said like we're ready to swing hard

778
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: for the best possible quarterback. And I don't think that

779
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: someone else will talk about I don't think Woody Johnson

780
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: is thinking Derek Carr and nobody else. And when I

781
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: say this, and as a Jets fan, I'm not saying like, oh,

782
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: we we're gonna nail this one. This is a home run.

783
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: There is a lot of risk that comes built in

784
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: with this because Rogers is kind of a weird guy.

785
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: He raged about big Pharma. Woody Johnson in case you're

786
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: not paying attention, is connected to such a thing. And um,

787
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: in general, you're gonna give up a lot to get them.

788
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: You have to leverage assets, pay him a lot of money,

789
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: make some hard decisions on the rest of the roster.

790
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: It's a chance that wouldn't work. But I think me

791
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of other Jets fans have come around

792
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: on the idea of like, but if it did work.

793
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: But if it did, what has this gone wrong? Of course?

794
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: But don't tell me that if the Jets traded for

795
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they wouldn't be one of the big high

796
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: bunnies of the season. People would be all in on

797
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: the Jets with that defense and then Aaron Rodgers leading

798
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: the offense. I love it. I hope it happens. I

799
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: think it can happen because of what There's one thing

800
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: that makes me believe it can happen. What about the

801
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: eight others? I gave you one more circumstantial. Now, I

802
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: agree with all of that, and that's why I think

803
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: the Jets would do it. But I'm thinking I'm more

804
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: thinking about why the Packers would do it, Like why

805
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: do the Packers want to do this? And the number

806
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: one reason would be that they genuinely believe in Jordan

807
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: loves development, and I do get the feeling over the

808
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: last year something changed where they believe he improved a

809
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: lot in the last year specifically, and that when they

810
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: saw him on the field that he was a different quarterback,

811
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: and when they saw him in practice and training came,

812
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: he was a different quarterback. Because I don't think any

813
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: of this happens otherwise because they're not trading Aaron Rodgers

814
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: unless they think they can go win the division with

815
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's love. I don't think you're You're also you're also

816
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: the front office that historically traded away Aaron Rodgers hoping

817
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: that fire thing and they feelings, but they made a

818
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: good decision. My piggyback on that is like I think

819
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: they might be just a little over it Rogers at

820
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: this point too. Yeah, like so it feels like maybe

821
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: it's just time and you still have this guy that

822
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: you took in the first round under a rookie contract.

823
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: It's time. Let's see. The case is still open. But

824
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: I think I got that one licked. All right, close

825
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: that file and we're going to open up another one.

826
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: But after this break, all right, welcome back, Mark Sisler. Well,

827
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I think this is this file, this case that I'm

828
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: about to drop on your table. Here, I'm pulling it.

829
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm opening it. Jimmy G. Now we know something that

830
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: we've we've gotten. You know, when you saw these cases,

831
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: you just go from tavern to tavern, place to place

832
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: looking to find and the missing person where he or

833
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: she might be. And we got held up at the

834
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: tavern for reasons I have nothing to do with the case.

835
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: We're detectives. We learned yesterday that the forty Niners Jimmy

836
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: G's current residing place, Oh, Kyle Shanhon openly saying he

837
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: will not be back with us next year, and right yeah,

838
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: the detectives A will point out he said the exact

839
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: same thing last year. I believe that I believe at

840
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: this time the environment is completely different. This time is

841
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: different It's like I believe this is the way I

842
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: believe Tom Brady's retirement this time around. I think the

843
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy G experience in San Francisco UM has run its course,

844
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: and there is uh from our insider, our our bureau insider,

845
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport has linked Jimmy G to the Raiders and

846
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: that the Tom Brady is out of the atmosphere. The

847
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels Jimmy garoppolo thing is a possibility, But I

848
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: see one other possibility here too. I mean, a money

849
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: or need or desperation by another team could laura him elsewhere.

850
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: But something's happened down in Houston, the number one city

851
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: in the country, according Detective Greg over Here, Damico Ryan's

852
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco's former defensive coordinating It's more the players, my

853
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: sources within you have playing You've got plenty of sources

854
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: and their actual human beings. We know about that that case,

855
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: But I think Damico Ryan's brings suddenly an element where

856
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: you've got a coach that knows Jimmy G for better

857
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: or worse. But I think Jimmy G is really well

858
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: liked obviously, and it's someone that has a chance to

859
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: take Houston somewhere for a year or two. You've got

860
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: nickis Sarrio, New England's old general manager operating the front

861
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: office in Houston. Who is approach Jimmy G guy. And

862
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: you've got a chance to I think still make a

863
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: quarterback pick with that number two pick if you want,

864
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: but not have to not throw that guy into the

865
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: fire as an automatic right away. Has to win on

866
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: a team that's still building. Detective Cecily, you're played by

867
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: your own rules. Sometimes you get the job done. I

868
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: think you've done in here, So I think you're playing

869
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: too fast and lose hit it Graver. I'm open. I'm

870
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: cracking this case open. He's pulling the file for these

871
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: two detectives don't work together. It's not it's good for

872
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: a television program. I'm opening up a different file. It's

873
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: probably the man we'd like to call Jake Brisket. And

874
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to slice off a little piece of Jake Brisket.

875
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: And that's a dusty file. No one's even bothered as

876
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been well traveled, it's been around the NFL.

877
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: But I can say with confidence Jake Briskett played as

878
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: high a level of quarterbacking as Jimmy Garoppolo sic, Jake

879
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: break this is perfect for it, uh, and I think

880
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: he might be a better fit as a sort of

881
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: mentor and guy that you can put with a number

882
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: two overall pick uh in the draft without having a

883
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: guy in Jimmy Garoppolo who's maybe a little tired of

884
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: being in this situation where he's he's mixed and uh,

885
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: he might not have a job, especially when his old

886
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: buddy Josh McDaniels is out there in Las Vegas. I

887
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: always have believed that Jimmy grand career would have been

888
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: much better in New England. I think he fits in

889
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: that offense. He's great at the sort of option routes

890
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: and the things the Patriots offense asked him to do.

891
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever as good in Kyle

892
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Sheanhans often offense as he was h in New England.

893
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: So to me, this is two cases at once. Jake

894
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: Briskett makes sense as as the mentor guy and doesn't

895
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: even start week one if that rookie is ready. But

896
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy g makes sense as a true starter that he

897
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: actually gets his own team again in Las Vegas. I

898
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: don't I just don't project Jacoby Bricet necessarily playing to

899
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: last year's surprising levels in a new system either, like

900
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: he he fit perfectly with Stefanski and Stefanski I think

901
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: the Browns made hard, hard trot like hard effort to

902
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: try to resign him because as their backup. He called

903
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: him the best teammate he's ever ever observed, Kevin Steffan.

904
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: He earned like that middle type of contract where it's

905
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: a little better than a backup or it's like extremely

906
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: high level backup money, and I I think is the

907
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: way he played. I mean, Jimmy g can't stay on

908
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: the field. I don't think that would stop the Raiders

909
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: from going for him, but I think it'd be a

910
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: weird thing with him in a number two over outpick.

911
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm crazy. I like Jake Brisket the player. He's

912
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna hang around for a bunch more years, probably, but

913
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: we needed to be this week one starter for another team.

914
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I guess my question would be, has Jimmy and she

915
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: ever played at a higher level than Jake Briskett played

916
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: last year? At my answer, Jimmy played well this year before.

917
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: But to me they're that they're like similar, they're different

918
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: types of quarterback. The ceiling is very similar. There's not

919
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are looking at Jimmy G

920
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: other than maybe Josh McDaniels who sees who he was

921
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: in New England, uh, and think like that's that's a

922
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: totally different level quarterback or New England's old general manager

923
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: and a coach that's spent the last number of years

924
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. Relationship. We are still waiting for more information.

925
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: In Houston, we don't even know who the offensive coach.

926
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: I gotta pull up the car file this one is.

927
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Everyone's perplexed by this case, and maybe we put our

928
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: heads together on this one. Um. Now, the the initial

929
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: thought and perhaps still the overriding thought, is that Derek

930
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: Carr is a Jet, um because it does make sense,

931
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: and you could you could connect those dots and I

932
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: would imagine if um, Aaron Rodgers stays in Green Bay

933
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: or something else happens, he goes somewhere else, the Jets

934
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: would try very hard. But I'll throw another team out

935
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: there because I do believe Aaron Rodgers will be a Jet.

936
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: As I said, so where does car go? How about

937
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: the commanders? I think the commander's obviously looking for an

938
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: upgrade um on what they had last year. And I know,

939
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: especially the detective Sessler over there, you're not a Derek

940
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: Carr guy. I don't think I'm not necessarily necessarily saying

941
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: that the Commanders are going to get Derek Carr and

942
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: be like way better. But I think it's going to

943
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: be a better quarterback situation than it's been in recent years.

944
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: And that defense with Car, I think that is a

945
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: team that can contend for the playoffs. They have weapons

946
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: for Car to. They're not sending him into a bad

947
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: situation in that sense either, Um Car to the Commanders

948
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: is uh some evidence that I'm piecing together your thoughts.

949
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I like. I'm not a Derek car guy,

950
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: but Ron Rivera specializes in obtaining veteran quarterbacks who I'm

951
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: not into year after year, and like, I think that

952
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: they are looking for something. I don't think you can

953
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: run back the Carson Wentz experience. Oh no. I think

954
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: they kind of did Taylor Heineke dirty at the end

955
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: of the year. And I think he's a free agent.

956
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: I think he wants out of there. Sam Howell is

957
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: like I was a spicy season finale start by him,

958
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: but like that's a project. Taylor Heineke might be, you know,

959
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: a little surprised by how cold his cases on the

960
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: open market. Maybe he shouldn't Lee Washington. Well, I don't

961
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: think that somewhere it's a starter, But like he just

962
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: not part of their future. But I think Ron Rivera

963
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: is is coaching for his job, and Derek Carr is

964
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: the There aren't a lot of options out there, Like

965
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Jimmy g goes to the Commanders and

966
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr if the Jets thing goes south or

967
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: if it if it, if it holds up with Aaron Rodgers,

968
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: which you believe I'm not so strong on that. I

969
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: could see Derek Carr winding up with the Commanders. I

970
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: would introduce the Indianapolis Cults is another option, depending on

971
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: who winds up there as a coach, supposedly a reportedly

972
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: according to the Athletic UH they haven't given car permission

973
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: to seek a trade yet. There's reasons for that, and

974
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: I think they make sense. He's not a free agent. Um,

975
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: he signed for three more years and I actually think

976
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: his contract and then Ryan Tannehill, if we're gonna talk him,

977
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: at all our assets like Derek Carr making thirty two

978
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: million dollars this year, and you don't have to give

979
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: him any bonuses like great, Like that's actually on the

980
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: lower end of starting money. Next year it's forty one,

981
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: which is a lot, but you you aren't guarant you

982
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: don't have to guarantee him any money. I think you

983
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: guarantee them like seven of at which is virtually nothing.

984
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: So it's just a look. See, I don't think he

985
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: could be asking for a raise or anything. And it

986
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: makes me think that he's going to get a better

987
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: offer in terms of trade what the Raiders are going

988
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to get way more than we would expect. If Carson

989
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Wentz could get two twos and everyone agrees that they overpaid,

990
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: I think Car ultimately will get that much or maybe

991
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: even more. And people are kind of looking at their

992
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: car like they're not that excited. Like sure, but you mentioned, uh,

993
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: the Commanders, I think that makes a lot of sense.

994
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Colts, think that makes a lot of sense.

995
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: How about the Panthers, That makes a lot of sense.

996
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: With with Frank Craig, how about the Bucks? That makes

997
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: How about to say, as I was going through this list,

998
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: even if you take off the teams like the Seahawks

999
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: and the Giants who kind of have guys now and

1000
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: are probably keeping them. There are too many teams, not

1001
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: enough quarterbacks, and Car is sort of threading that needle

1002
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: of a guy who's an upgrade and available. I think

1003
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. He might, it might cost a

1004
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: first round pick together. But also who is the bigger

1005
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: winner in the Brady retirement because that takes Brady out

1006
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: of the cycle, and I like the Probably what happens

1007
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers stays in Green Bay. Probably Lamar Jackson

1008
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: stays in Baltimore. I'm just saying, you don't, we don't.

1009
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: We don't. I didn't um, I didn't close the case,

1010
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: but it is something that I feel like I got.

1011
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if we if you want to just

1012
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: say that these guys stay home, that Derek Carr suddenly

1013
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: unless someone has eyes for Jimmy g which is a

1014
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: tier down for a little bit below Derek Carr thinking

1015
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: certain situations, but Derek har to me, becomes the guy

1016
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: that five or six teams are chasing after. Like you mentioned,

1017
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: the Saints, they have literally like they can't stick with

1018
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: anything they have at quarterback. Feasibly and sell that to

1019
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: the fan base like jamis under contract, Andy Dalton is

1020
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: a free agent. Jameis Winston starting next year after what

1021
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: happened with him and Dennis Allen this year feels absurd

1022
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: to me. Um one note on the timing with Derek Carr.

1023
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: So the Raiders have a deadline here of February either

1024
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: trade car or cut him, and that's connected to a

1025
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: forty million dollar guarantee that locks in at that time, So, um,

1026
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: you can trade for him. They're not gonna take that

1027
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: guaranteed money on I would imagine, um, the Raiders, so

1028
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: they'll probably what cut him at that point, right, So,

1029
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not getting cut in any scenario, and

1030
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty like I think the guaranteed

1031
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: money they'd have to give him like seven and a

1032
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: half million. Yeah, he was due forty a year from now,

1033
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: and you're right, that would be it would be nice

1034
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: to do that. But you can also rework all that stuff,

1035
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: like you can work with him to kick that down

1036
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: the can't like to kick that can down the road.

1037
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I feel like that deadline is started two weeks away

1038
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: from that, that Nebulos deadline, But I could see that happening. Absolutely.

1039
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, these these are teams that a lot of

1040
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: these teams also if they've if they've identified Cars the

1041
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: guy they want, and they know there's a hot market

1042
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: for him, like they're gonna want to try to lock

1043
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: him out and then they could proceed with their offseason

1044
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: plan after already happening in back channel by the end

1045
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: of this episode, like Stafford and Alex Smith, he seems

1046
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: like the guy that should be getting done before that deadline. Anyways,

1047
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: you're right, and that's why that puts oh God, because

1048
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, like if you if Car gets

1049
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: traded next week and then you're kind of all in

1050
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: on Rogers and if that doesn't work out, now, what

1051
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: do we do? Jimmy g Mike White, all right, one

1052
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: more Mark Sessler, Detective Cessler. I should say, Lieutenant, congratulations,

1053
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: you've been promoted for my work in this on this

1054
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: that's unfair, boss, you see, I've been working just as

1055
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: hard as said your time will come. I want to

1056
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: talk Ryan Tannehill pop the file. I think the Titans,

1057
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel especially understands that Ryan Tannehill is a major asset,

1058
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: especially in an area in an off season where if

1059
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: you get rid of him, you might be stuck with nothing.

1060
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: Just to to reference the Jets situation you just mentioned,

1061
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Speaker 1: it's not an easy or a natural target for free

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Speaker 1: agent quarterbacks because the cupboard has been bar on offense,

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Speaker 1: You've got an aging Derrick Henry, there are issues on

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Speaker 1: the offensive, coaching staff, vacancies, all sorts of things. So

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. Rabel mentioned that Tannehill's future was sort

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Speaker 1: of just up in the air. He gave it a

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Speaker 1: non that you have got a new GM coming in.

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Speaker 1: You can save twenty seven million with a post June

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Speaker 1: one cut. You move on into the abyss and to

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Speaker 1: avoid But but it just feels like possibly the Titans

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Speaker 1: view the Ryan Tannehill era as ending if they do,

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Speaker 1: there is a landing spot out there that I really

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Speaker 1: feel strongly about. Talk to me Arthur Smith in the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. Arthur Smith's Ryan Tannehill's old offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's Lieutenant. Yeah. Arthur Smith's the guy that

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Speaker 1: like went back to Marcus Mere Riota like a to

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Speaker 1: an old love and realized for the second time this

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00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: ain't a match. But Ryan Tannehill and Arthur Smith always

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00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: were a match. They've got the number eight picked. They

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00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: could use it on another weapon, and suddenly that offense

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Speaker 1: starts to look pretty spicy. They can run the ball

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Speaker 1: really well. You've got a lot happening Drake London at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. The tight end that never fit with Marcus

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Speaker 1: Mariota might with Ryan Tannehill. You can start to see something.

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Speaker 1: And I think that Arthur Smith is under a little

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00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: bit of pressure where you can't just project or hope

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Speaker 1: that Desmond Ritter will solve all your problems. I love that,

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00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: and I love the thinking of him getting traded in general,

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Speaker 1: just because what we talked about with these other teams

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: which we have, we we don't really have a beat

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Speaker 1: on Panthers with Bike Saints with Dennis Allen Bucks with

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles presumably. I mean, they don't have any quarterbacks

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00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: right now. Like the market that will be aggressive trying

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: to get Derek Carr. The same would be true for

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. And I don't think his contract is a problem.

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Speaker 1: And I look at this Titans file, there's a lot

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: of a lot of dead bodies in there. Thought of

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: dead cap space right now, this uh, this roster is

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a mess. They don't have an

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Speaker 1: offensive line, they don't have any cap space, Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't see a path logically forward

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Speaker 1: for them, And if ever there was a time to

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01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: blow it up, it would be with a new GM.

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Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe Derrick Henry's. I mean, we got

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Speaker 1: a detective who's been on this Titans case for a

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01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: long time, behind the last two. I wonder what he

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: has not been promoted to detective. Not yet. Yeah, he's

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01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: still cleaning the bathroom. He's on the he's on the police,

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Speaker 1: he's in the seems unfair, yes, cleaning the bathroom. You

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Speaker 1: look at it from the Titan side. General manager Ran

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Speaker 1: Carthon came in his introductory press conference. They said, do

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Speaker 1: you see Tannehill as your starting quarterback next year? And

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm still evaluating that. Mike Rabel is going

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Speaker 1: to make his decision on that. I'm gonna make my

1115
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: decision on that and will come together and form a

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: consensus and share thoughts. But I think they could get

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: a first for him, and I think they would do it.

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: The fact that he didn't commit to him, I mean,

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Speaker 1: even just like to say it, just to say it

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Speaker 1: the way that Cardinals committed to Josh Rosen before drafting

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's interesting. Why not just lie and they

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Speaker 1: not create a story? Here are some other players that

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Speaker 1: might not be on the Titans, but Dupree, Taylor, Luan

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Speaker 1: like this, this could They're a team I'm circling of,

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Speaker 1: just like those guys will not be on the Titans

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Speaker 1: unless they take a pay cut for sure. Very good.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's leave the station, Let's head to the

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Speaker 1: tavern and have a couple of what do they do?

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Speaker 1: What do like the detections? They like they have their

1130
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Speaker 1: shot at Jamison and then a bud heavy Absolutely yea.

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Speaker 1: I like to be a shot with a glass of milk,

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Speaker 1: go bunk style and just let's just go to the

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Speaker 1: train tracks, right McNalty and buk just getting smashed like

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Speaker 1: just wicked hammered only tracks. Um, all right, let's see,

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Speaker 1: Oh we got something cool coming up by the way,

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Speaker 1: Well we got to where where are we going? Uh?

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Speaker 1: What's what's happy next? Sunday? Greggy remind the people there

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Speaker 1: is a contest between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Thought I had you there. I was trying to get

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Speaker 1: you to an even twenty dollars to the Jacksonville Food Bank.

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Speaker 1: Till but look at us getting out of here, not

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Speaker 1: own a penny. But Grave Digger did five dollars from me. Um,

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Speaker 1: do you want to jump up the penalty? You had

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: said earlier that you wanted to Sure, Okay, so you

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Speaker 1: want to pick? I mean, I'm happy. Let's let's all

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Speaker 1: donate to the Jacksonville Food Bank. Let's hundred fifty dollars each, alright,

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01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: so a hundred and fifty per reference, so that that

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Speaker 1: puts greg in the whole four fifty. No, I've been

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Speaker 1: each person each say yeah, why would that? Why would

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Speaker 1: it be even? We could each donate that, but then

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Speaker 1: you donate another more. Um, we got you ready. UM.

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Speaker 1: NFL Plus it's a great um service that was launched

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Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna be on it. We're doing a

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Speaker 1: Q and A ahead of the Big Game fifty seven,

1155
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Speaker 1: and we're going to answer them um and next week

1156
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: in a Q and A show available exclusively on NFL Plus.

1157
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: It's getting posted on Monday, answering all of your questions.

1158
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: We sent out queries on social media. We we asked

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Speaker 1: you guys to send us your queries. We will now

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: answer many of them, and on Monday, if you check

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Speaker 1: out NFL Plus exclusively on NFL Plus, you can see

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Speaker 1: our answers. Somebody replied, like, why would anyone want answers

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Speaker 1: from these guys? They never get anything right. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of not totally inaccurate, but are

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Speaker 1: you gonna give you in the lock competition this year?

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Speaker 1: How about that? There you go. Greg brings it back

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: to himself once again. This is a this is a trend,

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Speaker 1: lock it up. This is a trend, a weather Warren trend.

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Speaker 1: About me? What was that seven for four drew in

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Speaker 1: my ear? Plus dot NFL dot com. If you want

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Speaker 1: to watch it, by the way, and you don't have

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Speaker 1: an NFL Plus subscription, know that right now there is

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Speaker 1: you wish, but free trial available right now. People were

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Speaker 1: also asking it, how do I get it? Plus NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com? Alright, good stuff, this is our um not

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Speaker 1: our last show from l A. We're gonna do one

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Speaker 1: more show on Monday, and then we are on aeroplanes

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Speaker 1: to Phoenix for the Big Game fifty seven. The Don't

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Speaker 1: Say the Big Game episode comes to a close. Nailed it,

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Speaker 1: Mark you and I, um, good job. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: everybody for listening. Thank you to Tom Curran for that

1185
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: great Tom Brady conversation. And Tom, please, that's it, that's

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Speaker 1: all we can do with you. Walk away. Eat the call.