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Speaker 1: rumors flying everywhere. We're going to get into it, top Father.

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Speaker 1: When you were playing, did you show guys rumors like

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Speaker 1: I mean that was more for me.

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Speaker 2: We would talk, but at the same time we knew

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Speaker 2: it was all rumors, speculations. We would talk about what

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Speaker 2: you know, would your agent say, what do you got?

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Speaker 2: Because that's the more sufficient part of it. The rumors

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Speaker 2: you know, we can always dream about going somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: or we can always think about, oh, what would it

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Speaker 2: but you know, you would understand. I'd be like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Gomes when he got trade of Cincinnati, he was

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Speaker 2: And it's like some guys are more verbal about it,

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Speaker 2: but you know, most of the time, you know, you're

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Speaker 1: The agents are your insiders. You two craps, that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my trades. I was never really when

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Speaker 1: Saying just for your teammates, like when you're on a team,

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Speaker 3: I never. I never looked at it. I never looked

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Speaker 3: So no, never really, never really anything where guys would

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Speaker 1: And if you're a fan of a team and you

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Speaker 2: I think they shoulder what Kratzy always says, hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: He's He's a solid dude. He seems to get better

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Reds, you bring him over. He's been

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Speaker 3: The Reds have an opportunity, but are the Reds? You

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Speaker 3: You're pumping these prospects up. They're creating what I would

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Speaker 1: So I'll finish up here, Todd Father by looking at

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Speaker 3: Let's put it this way. He knows how to hit

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Speaker 1: It's a great call. Ken Rosenthal wrote about it this

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Speaker 1: They do not have enough slug in my mind, and

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Speaker 1: we have another retirement announcement. Nick Ahmed just announced that

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Speaker 1: Twelve seasons, ten of them with the Diamondbacks. He was

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Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz actually was just working that outside outside Greg Maddox,

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Speaker 3: Just get it right right here, two of them right

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Speaker 1: Or google Levon Hernandez World Series. Oh my, same pitches.

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Speaker 1: wait until the offseason to address the possibility of them leaving.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for me, guys watching the Blue Jays more

432
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Speaker 1: frequently lately because they are very much in the thick

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Speaker 1: of things, I think high leverage reliever would be number

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Speaker 1: one on the list. Kratz, I think they could get

435
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Speaker 1: away with the starting staff that they have right now.

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Speaker 1: But convince me otherwise if you feel that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that way too. I read Ken's article

438
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, a high leverage reliever essentially takes the

439
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Speaker 3: value that you have in those What Ken was saying,

440
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Speaker 3: older guys that may or may not like they may

441
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Speaker 3: get tired part way through the postseason, whatever it is,

442
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Speaker 3: they might falter down the stretch. It shortens some of

443
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Speaker 3: these games. And when you don't have that high leverage

444
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Speaker 3: reliever and I get it, we can say relief pitching

445
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Speaker 3: for every team. So they're going to be in a

446
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Speaker 3: bidding war, but they have a commanding lead right now

447
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Speaker 3: in the in the American League East, so you have

448
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to make a splash. To me, the splash

449
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Speaker 3: will affect your team more, their team more at closer

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Speaker 3: because their their staff is going to be held up

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Speaker 3: also by that by that defense that is going to

452
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Speaker 3: help them make, you know, make plays that you know what,

453
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Speaker 3: maybe an ace doesn't need you to make because they're punching,

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Speaker 3: punching more tickets. So to me, it's a high leverage reliever.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree, Scott, And.

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Speaker 1: If you want to do both Thodfather, that's okay too,

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Speaker 1: But just trying to prioritize because it's difficult to get

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Speaker 1: a lot of your work done around this time of

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Speaker 1: year if there aren't many sellers. Are you on the

460
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Speaker 1: same page. Got to get a high leverage bullpen guy

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Speaker 1: that'll help you down the stretch. And you really need

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Speaker 1: to be stacked with that circle of trust heading in

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Speaker 1: to October.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you have a one or two

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Speaker 2: starters that are in trouble, I mean, that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: your priority. But we talked about this numerous times about

467
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Speaker 2: how in the playoffs, for some reason they don't trust

468
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Speaker 2: their starters. They only have four or five innings, So

469
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Speaker 2: you're gonna need four or five innings of relief, and

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Speaker 2: it's not always gonna be your closer. So you're gonna

471
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Speaker 2: need a long guy. You're gonna need that guy that

472
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Speaker 2: can come in and face three batters. So you gotta

473
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Speaker 2: be very precise and really think about who exactly you want.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be the biggest names. That's

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Speaker 2: to be a guy that's reliable. Like we say relievers

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Speaker 2: are reliable. Just a guy that comes in, throws strikes

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Speaker 2: and can manipulate some batters. And I think that's the

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Speaker 2: biggest key, yes, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Now to be faracrats. If you read the piece from

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Speaker 1: Ken a couple paragraphs, he multiple times mentions how reliever

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Speaker 1: is a high priority. But he's just offering that maybe

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Speaker 1: they do multiple things, and I'm certainly okay with that.

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Speaker 1: The other thing to keep in mind is that after

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Speaker 1: July thirty first, you can't really get anyone else. Max

485
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Speaker 1: Schurzer has had a lot of Aylestons in the past

486
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Speaker 1: few years. Eric lower looks really good. That could change.

487
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Speaker 1: Doesn't have the track record of looking the way he

488
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Speaker 1: does right now. I mean it could last or could not.

489
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Speaker 1: Right Eric Fetti last year was one of the better

490
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Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball. If you go off war He just

491
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Speaker 1: got cut yesterday by the Cardinals. So do you think

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Speaker 1: that adding a little depth it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: a top end guy. I mean, sure, if they can

494
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Speaker 1: go out and get a Mitch Keller to be in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a rotation, that's awesome. But does it

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Speaker 1: help for them to look into give me someone who's

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Speaker 1: more of a depth piece, just to make sure that

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Speaker 1: maybe he could be a swingman. And if a starter

499
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Speaker 1: does go down, they're not doing the bullpen day crap.

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Speaker 1: They've got a good five the rest of the way

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Speaker 1: to prevent any injury risk.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Eric Fetty just got DFA. Do they do

503
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Speaker 3: they go pick up Eric Fetti just to like, like,

504
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Speaker 3: are you looking for innings or are you looking to

505
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Speaker 3: solidify the American League East? They don't score a lot

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Speaker 3: of runs. To me, you have to be able to

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Speaker 3: put a guy out there that's gonna be dominant. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you need innings Zeters because part way through

509
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Speaker 3: August alec Mano is going to be coming back, so

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Speaker 3: they have guys that are coming back. I don't know

511
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Speaker 3: where Yami Garcia is at. Obviously you don't want to

512
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Speaker 3: like ooh, I hope I hope, I hope, yes, they

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Speaker 3: need to add If you're asking me, what do they

514
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Speaker 3: need more, it is that high leverage bullpen piece. It

515
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Speaker 3: is that Emmanuel Classe, It is that Ryan Hellsley, which

516
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Speaker 3: we're gonna be saying for so many teams right now,

517
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Speaker 3: if you have a chance at Mitch Keller, and then

518
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Speaker 3: it kind of hits on what Ken was saying, Hey,

519
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Speaker 3: you know what, these guys are expiring contracts, they're getting older.

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Speaker 3: Mitch Keller can solidify that for the next few years.

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Speaker 3: I like when teams make those moves. But to me,

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Speaker 3: what helps this team the best? I don't think they

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Speaker 3: pride Mitch Keller away. I don't think the Blue Jays

524
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Speaker 3: are playing in that in that realm. It's this closer

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Speaker 3: role that they have an opportunity to solidify because there's

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Speaker 3: a couple options out there.

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Speaker 1: Hold up offense wise. I mean, they are ninth in

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Speaker 1: run scored this season. They're nineteenth in homers, but they're

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Speaker 1: ninth in run scored. I mean, that's part of why

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Speaker 1: they've played a different brand of baseball. I'm with you, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not opposed to an impact bat as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the priority.

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Speaker 3: What did you just say? What did you just say

534
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Speaker 3: earlier when we were talking about Hennel Suarez. What plays

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. You don't have slug, you don't win.

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Speaker 3: The reason you don't win without slug is because game one,

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Speaker 3: you're facing a team's number one, and then they're three

538
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Speaker 3: highest relievers, they're three best relievers. You ain't getting the

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Speaker 3: number four through seven in the bullpen. You ain't facing

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Speaker 3: the third, fourth, and fifth starters. So game two you're

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Speaker 3: then going again to the second best pitcher on that staff.

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Speaker 3: And those dudes just don't give up slub. They don't

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Speaker 3: let you manufacture things during the season. You can manufacture

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Speaker 3: those things. I'm not gonna throw anybody's name under the bus,

545
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Speaker 3: but if you if you go to every roster, there's

546
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Speaker 3: pictures that you sit there and you go, we're gonna

547
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: feast on this guy. We're gonna feast because he matches

548
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: up well in this way. That is not what wins

549
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. You have to drive the baseball. The

550
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: Blue Jays can drive the baseball, but you add another

551
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Speaker 3: aircraft carrier to that, and that could be Anthony Santander.

552
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but if you have a chance, you

553
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: need to add slug and a shut down closer. And

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Speaker 3: I'm saying closer. Hoffmail pribably still be a closer, but

555
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Speaker 3: a shut down arm in the bullpen eliminates slug. That's

556
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Speaker 3: what they do. That's why they're closing games.

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Speaker 1: Out last part here. For me, I'm actually comfortable with

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Speaker 1: what they have have one, two, three in a playoff series,

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Speaker 1: are you guys? I mean a mix of Brio, Scossman

560
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Speaker 1: and Chris Bassett.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they stick with him, If they stick with

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Speaker 3: them and the front office doesn't, the front office doesn't

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Speaker 3: tell it's not too soon. Blue Jay fans should never

564
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Speaker 3: forget that. They should never forget that somebody was forced

565
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Speaker 3: to take a starting pitcher out who was dealing and

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Speaker 3: making on field decisions, because hey, you know what it

567
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Speaker 3: says that we should bring Kokuchi in here, We should

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Speaker 3: bring it was Kokuchi, right, It wasn't ryu.

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Speaker 1: Uh Kikuchi? Yeah it was. And Barrios was taken out

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Speaker 1: and they lost. Yep.

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Speaker 3: So yes, I love that. Top three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that top three too. I'm good with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But for me, priority high end, high leverage reliever number two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want to get a controllable starter. I don't even

575
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Speaker 1: know if you need a ConTroll bull start, just a

576
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Speaker 1: starter in general, even if it's an Endings eater. And

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Speaker 1: he's not in the five right now, some Blue Jays

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Speaker 1: fans are probably gonna watch this and go alec Banoa. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but let's see how he comes back. Let us know

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Speaker 1: your thoughts if you're checking this out, I mean, Alex's

581
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Speaker 1: been out for a while to rely on him as

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Speaker 1: the sixth starter, the depth piece that could be dicey

583
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Speaker 1: as well. But feeling good about this team. This team

584
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Speaker 1: looks really good. They look different this year than they

585
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand. We're not evenna talk about

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Speaker 3: pitching here. I'm gonna talk about if you go back.

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Speaker 3: I think it was last year, maybe it was his

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00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: he's hitting these balls. This is the first one. He

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Speaker 3: and a lot of these homers that he's been hit.

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Speaker 3: And the in this stretch right now, he's going opo

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Speaker 3: he went. He went a rocket to left like a

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Speaker 3: like a righty two iron like when he's staying on

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Speaker 3: the baseball. He goes through stretches like this, and the

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Speaker 3: balls they're not staying in the yard. They're not saying

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Speaker 3: in the yard. And I was the first one to say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, there's a little bit of a drop

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Speaker 3: when you pitch, Like, how much is that going to

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Speaker 3: affect you? Well, I'll eat my crow.

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Speaker 2: And a long story short, with his swing, he is

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Speaker 2: seeing the ball deep. How do you teach the little

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Speaker 2: kids to hit let the ball travel and get that

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Speaker 2: thing for a lefty especially I saw. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: teach my son. I said, listen, but you are a

632
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Speaker 2: better hitter if you go left center gap. Oh, dad,

633
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Speaker 2: But you know everybody's hitting the home run. But everybody

634
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: can hit the home run pull side. That's fine, that's great.

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Speaker 2: You want to look good in practice, but in the game,

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Speaker 2: when You're getting three four hits in the gap and

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Speaker 2: everybody's a man. You tearing it up. Yeah, you're going

638
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Speaker 2: to get that. Let that ball travel, and he's hitting

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Speaker 2: the ball pretty.

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Speaker 1: Much behind him.

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Speaker 3: I'll protect Bye Blake a better bat he can hit app.

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Speaker 1: Spreading rumors. I mean, you got the good old fashioned

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Speaker 1: duel going on here, Todd Father, I know you love

644
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Speaker 1: this stuff. Ready. Hector Gomez throwing this out there a

645
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Speaker 1: day or two ago about marcel A Zuna, who I'm

646
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: sure is on the trade block, and there are discussions,

647
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: he said. Talks between the Padres and the Braves have intensified.

648
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: The Padres are very interested in landing marcel A Zuna.

649
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Speaker 1: According to the source, the Braves would receive even gave

650
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Speaker 1: the two names uh Francis Pana and Ryan Berger two

651
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: of their prospects. The Padres do need some thump. Their

652
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: offense has not been good for a while and they

653
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: need more pop to keep this thing going. Michael King,

654
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: I would hope is back in August for them, which

655
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: would be a huge addition to the starting staff. But wait,

656
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: there's more. Mark Bowman, who works for MLB, gives us

657
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: this on his beat. According to my sources. The Braves

658
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: and Padres haven't had any discussions of any kind about

659
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Marcela's tail of the tape. What do you got for us?

660
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: We got conflicting reports to this. This is a battle here.

661
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: I want them to start going back and forth so

662
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: we could figure out who's in the right, who's in

663
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: the wrong. Yeah, I mean they do need a little thump.

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Speaker 2: Of course. They're a really good team this. I want

665
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: to see this Padre team in the playoffs. Cratzy. I

666
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: really enjoy the way they play. I think King is

667
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: a big piece of this. If they could get a

668
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: guy like Ozona for their eighteenth and twenty first prospect,

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Speaker 2: I would take that in a heartbeat. You know, eighteen

670
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: twenty first, I don't go out. The numbers are ridiculous,

671
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: So you're gonna play or not? So for me, unreliable sources,

672
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: what do we got rat that's a big problem. So

673
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: we'll see.

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00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: I think the source is probably reliable, which one I

675
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: would say. It's more of they're just going back to

676
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: double check it. They're going back to see if the

677
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: guy that they talk to is the guy that's really

678
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: in the know, or if he's not in the know.

679
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: So to me, though, Marcella Zuni's kind of had a

680
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: down year. Will he be a monster pickup for the

681
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: last two months of the year. I don't know. To me,

682
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: kind of a crapshoot eighteenth and twentieth pick I mean

683
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: twentieth prospect, sorry to those guys, but that's not really

684
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: that big a haul. So other teams might just be

685
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: somebody just might have fished that out there to see

686
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 3: if other teams are willing to give up their eighteenth

687
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: and twenty first prospect. So some of this is like,

688
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: is gamesmanship. Hey, I'll leak this to Todd Fraser because

689
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: Todd Fraser's got diarrhea of the mouth and he'll tell

690
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: anybody anything. And it's not really something.

691
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Never, Padres have some work to do. Potentially a catcher,

692
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: a left fielder, maybe a DH We.

693
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 3: Got to stop. That's part of the Padres we got.

694
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: We gotta stop talking about that.

695
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta go in a secon.

696
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: It's so hard. It's so hard to get a starting

697
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 3: catcher to plug in. Name the last team that went

698
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: to the playoffs and plugged in a starting catcher At

699
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: this point in the year. Backups big difference.

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Speaker 1: I have to do this on the fly. What I

701
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: did this morning. I don't even know what I had

702
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: for breakfast. Well that ends the segment. Then krats stump me.

703
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: But I'll do some homework on it, or someone smarter

704
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: than me will help me. In the comments section, we'll

705
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: find somebody in the past ten years that joined a

706
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: team and thrived as a starting catcher.

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00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: But until then, Vasquez, they're gonna say, Christian Vasquez is

708
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: going to be their.

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Speaker 1: Number one, and would they be wrong?

710
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: Just look it up. Just look it up and Benji

711
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: Molina all the way back in two thousand and ten.

712
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Speaker 1: Mm, yeah, that's way back. Okay, I know it's not common,

713
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and I don't even know who you're trading for. Who

714
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: are you trading for?

715
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Sean Murphy is the only one in the Brave said no,

716
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: we're not getting rid of Sean Murphy. We love the

717
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 3: fact that we have two bosses behind a dish.

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: You may hit from different sides of the plate too,

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00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: And if they trade a Zuna, they have a DH

720
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: spot that they can utilize. So yeah, I'm with you.

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening. I was just listing the needs,

722
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: just listing the needs for you.

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: No.

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: Looking back at yesterday's games, one more that we didn't

725
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: get to you guys, the uh Nick Lodolo shutout nine

726
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: innings of glory. And I know it's a struggling Nationals

727
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: team here, but Todd Father, we've all watched enough Nick

728
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: Lodolo to know that he's got that in him. And

729
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: that's probably why the Reds are like, hey, we're on

730
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: the outside looking in from a playoff position, but if

731
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: Hunter Green comes back and looks like the cy young

732
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: contender that he's been in the past couple of years,

733
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Lodolo's doing this and that rotation's got a lot of

734
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: upside down the stretch. Obviously, Nick Martinez solid as hell.

735
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot there to think that, you know, this

736
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: team might make a real run and could win a

737
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: bunch of games in a rows. Are only as good

738
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: as the next day starting pitcher, and they've got a

739
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: lot of really talented ones.

740
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Not to put you down here, but there's a lot

741
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: of ifs. I mean, we've been talking about the Reds

742
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: for a lot of years now and the teams they

743
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: have and the players they have, but there's frustrations you

744
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: would have an injury here. They don't put it together,

745
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 2: and you see Lodolo what he can do. He shows

746
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: these spurts. But it's just inconsistencies, you know. And I'm

747
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: not here to knock the Reds because I love them

748
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: and I want them to win. It's just as a

749
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Red fan, there is a lot of inconsistencies. And some

750
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: of it deals with injuries. Well, that's part of the game.

751
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: And others are the you know, the pitching will be

752
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: there and the hitting won't be there. They have to

753
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: put everything together and play like a team, and you know,

754
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of ifs, and that's the that's

755
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: the problem with Cincinnati Land. Go get a guy that's dominant,

756
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: Go get two or three guys that can help this

757
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: team out, and then we could talk more.

758
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: Andrew Abbit, Brady Singer, Burns. I mean, I like it

759
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: got to score some runs too. Let's slap and say

760
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: happy birthday to AJ's favorite player that he played with

761
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: in terms of talent and awe, no shock here. Barry

762
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Bonds is sixty one years old. We saw him a

763
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: few months ago in person. We had a great sit

764
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: down interview with him. If you want to catch it

765
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: on our Potter YouTube channel sixty one and scrats. He

766
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: looked forty two.

767
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: I mean he looked tremendous. Like to meet Barry Bonds

768
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: in person is there's very few people where you're like

769
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: kind of all inspired by it. This dude is definitely

770
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: one of them. Had to hear him talk so eloquently

771
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: about hitting and like you just have have to listen

772
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 3: when he talks. But happy birthday, man. I hope Todd

773
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: looks like that when he's fifty two, let alone sixty two.

774
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: Probably not. Yeah, that's okay, I need to I need

775
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: to get my mind right, kid.

776
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: With Bonds done. What what was your rookie year, Todd father?

777
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: I was two thousand aloud?

778
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven was his last year.

779
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: That's okay, So you missed him.

780
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: He coached against me, though, how about you coached against you?

781
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: He's with the Marlins, he was, yeah, oh yeah, he's

782
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: a hitting coach for a little bit.

783
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yelly.

784
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: He would hit VP sometimes and then make everyone look stupid.

785
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, incredible.

786
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: He can probably still he looks like he can still hit.

787
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: I mean there are no there are no plane on that.

788
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Hey, one more rumor. With about a minute and a

789
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: half to go, Dylan sees his name is getting thrown

790
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: out there by a couple of different insiders. I don't

791
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: think that's a name that moves because they are going

792
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: to get King back, and they are going to lose

793
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: a number of guys to free agency after this year. Yeah, Kratzel,

794
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: his name's getting brought up pretty frequently. He's had an

795
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: up and down year. He's going to be free agent.

796
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: King's going to be a free agent. Luis rise is

797
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. There's one major long

798
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: shot from John Haymon. But I've seen in a couple

799
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: other articles too from the insiders that we we trust

800
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: and that we like, the name is at least getting floated.

801
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: And remember it's a j preller. Also, it could be

802
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: a major League Baseball le trade, not just a prospect dump.

803
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: Who's pitching Game two for the for the Padres. If

804
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: Michael King throws Game one, Paveta's throwing Game two and

805
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: you're hoping, that means you're you're hoping Michael King comes back.

806
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: Like to me, I don't hey, if they ever rid

807
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: of Dylan Cease, I'm.

808
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Like, they're just talking, we're just talking, man.

809
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know his

810
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: name got brought up before the season starts and nothing happened.

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00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: Yes, they also thought they were getting you Darvish back

812
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: for more more of the year than they have. Like man,

813
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I love I love Paveta in a

814
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: playoff series. I don't love leaning on a guy like

815
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: King who's hurt right now, but he's awesome when he's healthy.

816
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: I get it.

817
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he's got the good stuff, that's a guy

818
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: that wins you playoff games. I'm with you. I'm just

819
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: saying the Padres might have to get creative. They hover

820
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: around that CBT tax. I think they're over it this year,

821
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: but they have a lot of hosts to fill. They

822
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: got to patch up the offense pretty quick, and that

823
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: was a rough series for them, and against the Marlins

824
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: just now, I believe dropping two out of three. Anyway,

825
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this every day. We love trade deadline coverage.

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827
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