1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: And we'll start with the name. Where where did Pepe 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: come from? Pepper originated from a Spanish guy, Mom, so 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: I originated in and just you went the Juco kind 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: of root. That journey was crazy. But the crazy thing 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: about it when I got here Marcus Peter actually took 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: me out to eat with him, like, man, come, come, come, 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: get uneat. It's a guy who was undersized. Did you 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: feel like players would test you? Yeah? I love you. 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: You think I'm sweethead, I'm too small? Yeah, come on, 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I go out and I challenge people. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to show me you can out wort me. 12 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We are getting 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: ready for training camp and the rookies have already reported. 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: You know the rookies they stay long, right, Yeah, So 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: so we capitalize on that and we have Demarrian Pepe 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Williams on the pod today, so very exciting. Yeah. And 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: in addition to the rookies arriving, the quarterbacks have also 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: right and injured vets and injured vets. But quarterbacks quarterbacks, Wait, 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: who's that's the mars? We said all that hold out 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: talk was a bunch of garbage. You know. We talked 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: about that at the end of Mini Camp and there 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: was all the the headlines whether he's going to hold out, 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: and we said, if you listen to the podcast, that 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: he's going to be here for training camp, and he is. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: He's here for training camp and that was a great 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: sign to see him walk in. Man, he looks like 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: he has packed on some serious muscle. I know it 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: like not necessarily since since Mini Camp, but that was 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: a storyline of Mini Camp. Now you say it if 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: you say it again, Um, but he definitely and when 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: he walked in today you could definitely see that, and so, um, 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: it was good to see him, no doubt for sure. Yeah. 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean the contracts stuff will be ever president, especially 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: after Kyler Murray just signed a big extension. So uh, 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: you think he'll get any questions about that next time 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: he steps to the podium. I have a feeling he 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: probably will. I also gonna guess that he's probably gonna 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: answer them the same way that he did at Mini Camp, 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: which has come up with whatever the stock answer is. 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: We're talking. Yeah, we're talking, and it's this conversation and 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: rinse and repeat, So you can ask me however many 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: times you want, but you're gonna get the same answer. 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Probably so, but with no further ado, let's get into 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: an interview with my guy. I've already, Garrett. I'm just 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: saying I've already put my flag in the ground on 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: this guy. All right, he's my guy. Okay, you don't 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: claim him. You did? You did? You were on it early. 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: I was early. Yeah, let's just because you did. You 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: did the interview with him after you got drafted, and 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: so you did the initial interview with him. So then 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: once you do one interview, then automatically at your guy exactly. Anyway, 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: let's jump into it. We're thrilled to be joined by 53 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Pepe Williams. He's Pepe, not to marry Hi, it's Pepe. Right, 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: We're rolling with it, and you know what I want 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: to start here. You like already strike me as a star, 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: like you are a guy who comes out brings the energy, 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: like there's nobody. Social media team loves you on Twitter 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: because you just light it up every day. It's like, 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: just come out with a smile on your face, high energy. 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? I mean my hotelhood I 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: had a lot of energy. Yeah, you know, what I mean, 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: we're the kid bouncing off the walls all the time. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I was that kid. My mom couldn't she couldn't control me, 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, like everybody thought 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I was just bad. I just had a lot of energy. 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't sit in one spot, so you know, 67 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: it never changed. It still let me. You know, that's 68 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: why I enjoyed football. I can let it out right 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: right right put on the show. Yeah, for sure, it is. 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of impressive because the cornerback room always, the 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: dB group is always some of the biggest personalities on 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: the team, and that is definitely the case on this team. 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: You got Marcus Peters and Marlon Humphrey's a lot of 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: big personalities in the group. You might be the biggest 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: thing is it's it, you know, And I think a 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of rookies um kind of come in and it 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: can be kind of like intimidated by that. But you 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: seem comfortable from the start. Why is that? I just 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: I just know when I came in the first day, 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I was just being me and everybody let me be me, so, 81 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, I know, I didn't had to close out anything. 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: But as a dB, you know, I bring the energy 83 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: and bring me sweat, so I never lose that because 84 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: that's my confidence, you know what I mean. As a 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: dB got one of the hardest jobs on the field. 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be quiet and soft, you know, 87 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: because plays happen. You give up plays and you make plays. 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you gotta keep 89 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: that dog and that energy. So you think that like 90 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of the uh the person who you are off 91 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: the field, you you do bring that like that sort 92 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: of that that high energy personality like that carries into 93 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: the way that you play the game off the field. 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I got a lot of energy. I 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: don't know about it. I mean while I'm in the 96 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: building around around people, that allows me to do it, 97 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: you know. But once I don't get out in the 98 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: wheel world, you know, I don't have as much energy. 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I know how to tone it down. But once I 100 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: come in this facility and it's all ball, man, all 101 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: the energy just flows through me, you know what I mean, 102 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: So I let it out. It feels it reminds me 103 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: of Dean Sanders kind of put away like the same swag, 104 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Like was who who did you look up to as 105 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: a kid? Like who did you like to kind of 106 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: watch and emulate. To be honest, I watched Chimp Bailey. 107 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Like Chump Bailey was the first corner I've seen man 108 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: just picking stuff all you know what I mean. But 109 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Deon is the goat for sure. But I grew up 110 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: watching Chimp Bailey. You know I've seen Chemp Bailey. I 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: play with him on mad He was my corner usually 112 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: go pick anything, you know. And around that time, man 113 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: you had to do was pressed triangle and he's just 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna go get the ball. It was easy, you know 115 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. To take us back to your background 116 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: a little bit, Pepe and we'll start with the name. 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Where did Pepe come from? Pepe originated from my Spanish 118 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: guy mom Gli said. I actually talked to her not 119 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: too long af ago. We caught back up. You know, 120 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I haven't spoke to her in years, you know what 121 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: I mean. But it originated then, you know, as a child. 122 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Once I heard it, I'm Pepe, my brother's papa. Uh 123 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: so I originated in and just stopped interesting. How old 124 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: were you? And she started called you though I was 125 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: young man, I was probably like four four or five. 126 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: And so when he registered in my head, and I'm Peppe. 127 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: And who calls you de Marrian? Does anybody call you dear? 128 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: My mom? When she's a little upset at me, that's 129 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: when you know you're in trouble. Yeah, I know him 130 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: in trouvior, she says, de Marion. You know she usually 131 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: called me Pepe, but my mom. Uh you know when 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I went to school and my teachers called me to marry, 133 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, I really didn't tell him my nickname because 134 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm at school, I've been on the football field, I 135 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: go by Pepper. I don't even allow people to call 136 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: me by my real name because Pepe. And so you 137 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: want fans, it seems like it's kind of like an 138 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: ultra ego. It's like you're like on the field, like 139 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: that's that's your identity. I'm Pep out there. I ain't 140 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: marry not there. So you grew up Miami, Yeah, and uh, 141 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: tell me about kind of your first interest in football, 142 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Like when did football become something that you felt like, 143 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: I want to play this game and do it seriously? 144 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, man, I've been in football in my whole life, really, 145 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: as I since I grew up. I mean I remember 146 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: playing just screetball and then, like I was saying, I 147 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: was ten years old. Once I got into like real 148 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: like organized football, but I couldn't play the pound I 149 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: was supposed to because I was so small, So they 150 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: kept me back with like people, the kids that was 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: like nine and eight, you know what I mean, so 152 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: do I was just dominating, but they actually was. Most 153 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: of them was bigger than me, so they didn't think 154 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I was older than them, but I was older them 155 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: by a year. So I was just dominating. And then 156 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: my cousin, my cousin tweet he played, he played football, 157 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: So I went to practice. I didn't really know how 158 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: to tackle, so I went back home. I was like, oh, man, 159 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I know how to tackle. You gotta teach me how 160 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: to tackle. So he'll stand by the bed and he 161 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: let me put my shoulder pads on here, lift his 162 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: arm up. He said, keep your head up and hit me. 163 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: So I running, I hit him with my shoulder. Boom, 164 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: boom boom, And I went back to practice. The next 165 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: day I was lighting people up. It got so crazy. 166 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Coach line of everybody up for like a Hamburger drill, 167 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: and he like he just made me talk with everybody, 168 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, because they wanted tackling the practice. So I 169 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: ran through the whole teams like three players that I knew, like, 170 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: we'll hit. It was a nice hit. But everybody else 171 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I was just smashing them. So I was like that, 172 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: ain't that's crazy. I know the tackle now. So I 173 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: was lit. So it was like street ball, like when 174 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: you were playing that man street ball. It's literally on 175 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: the street. Very competitive. You can hit the garbage, you 176 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: better get up, you know what I mean. So it 177 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: was very competitive. Actually broke my toe hitting the garbage, 178 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: trying to catch the ball, hitting the garbage. I hit 179 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: the garbage can like running the garbage trash trash can next, 180 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: like the ones that roll. Yeah, I hit a t 181 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: ask can you know I was? I was my sister. 182 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: She threw a nine ball boom. I had them bombed 183 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: my little brother. But I didn't see the garbage when 184 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I caught the ball, so I didn't drop the ball 185 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and I took a step. My toe hit the gobage 186 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and I broke my toe. And the crazy thing about it, 187 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I went to the doctor. You know, you don't really 188 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: get a cash for you toil. They say he was 189 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: on his own. So I was in a boot. I 190 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: was so mad. I couldn't play. I had to be 191 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the all time quarterback. That's how much I love football. 192 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I count just not like I had to do something. 193 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I had an interact in football, so like it was crazy. 194 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Screetball was like like I molded my game, you know 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we we had no rules, really 196 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: want too many rules. You just played to win, you 197 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We tackled. If you in the grass, 198 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: you might get tackled, But concrete, you play touch, you 199 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But streetball definitely was a big 200 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: part of me in football. Do you feel like you 201 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: kind of brought that aspect to once you started playing 202 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: organized football that it was almost like I mean, obviously 203 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: there's skiing, there's play, you know, there's a lot more involved, 204 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: but like that you were playing with that same street 205 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: ball mentality kind of most definitely man and man, like 206 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I screetballs and just man and man. When people running 207 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: crazy routes like screetball, any route you can name they're running, 208 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: you just have to guard it, you know what I mean. 209 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Like in the quarterback can't get sacked because once you 210 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: go blick him, he can run around all day. So 211 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: dudes running crazy routes. So that's how I really tuned 212 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: in to play man and man, like I can run 213 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: with anybody, you know what I mean, Like man and minutes, 214 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: like my best coverage, you know what I mean, Like 215 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: we didn't play zone on the street ball. You got him, 216 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I got him. Let's go right. And I remember when 217 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: you got drafted. You talking about part of the reason 218 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: that you play street ball, was like if if your 219 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: mom didn't have the money for you to put you 220 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: in the organized league, you would not good at her, 221 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Like you know, I was just playing the street You're like, 222 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't really want to go asking for the money 223 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: at Can you talk about kind of that attitude in 224 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: that mindset? I mean as a as a as a kid, 225 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I had four sisters, a brother, A mom got you know, 226 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: six kids, So it's like I couldn't put all the 227 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: pressure on her to like struggle and try to pay 228 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: for me to play ball. And it was like when 229 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: when when I when I was being good and she 230 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: wanted me to play and you know she could afford it, 231 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I go play. But it was like an one and 232 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: off thing because you know, it always tied into high 233 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: acting in school, you know what I mean? If I 234 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: was good at school, I can play ball. But then 235 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: some years I was good at school but still couldn't 236 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: play ball. But I understood what it was. So I 237 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: wasn't tripping because every day I played football in the 238 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: street and it was like I played a game every day. 239 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: So I was happy, you know, I wasn't tripping as 240 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: a kid. It wasn't a big of that big of 241 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: a deal into really, like when I got kicked out 242 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: of high school, it really hit me, like, hang, I 243 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: really lost football. Then I ended up moving to Georgia 244 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: and just changing my whole attitude and just you know, 245 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: get my grades right. Actually, like that's when I moved 246 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: to Georgia, I really started playing organized football and all 247 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the fundamentals, Like I wasn't even training in Miami cone 248 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: drills and all that. We just wake up, go to practice, 249 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: go play. I mean practicing literally wasn't drills. It was 250 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: downstare hood, go play, you know what I mean. So 251 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: like that that just changed my mindset. Once I got 252 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: kicked out of high school, had a flash in my 253 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: head like you're done with football, you know, Like I 254 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: can't go to public school the more in Miami. So 255 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of like shook by that. So when 256 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: I saw moved to Georgia and seeing the opportunity, I 257 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: took it and like I stayed focused, tone of vision, 258 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: like nothing nothing could have strap me. I knew I 259 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: wanted to play football. So at what age were you 260 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: when you moved from Miami to Georgia. What happened? I 261 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: just turned fourteen, just turned like a freshman in high school. 262 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Uh now it was my sophomore year. Okay, sophmore year. Yeah, 263 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: and you just guess got in trouble that. Yeah, I 264 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: got in trouble. I just had a little reputation, you 265 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, So that the principal, me and 266 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: him was good friends. It was good friends. I was 267 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: in this office a lot. You should try to protect 268 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: me and you know, save me, and just came to 269 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: the point where, you know, he had to do his job. 270 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: So I wasn't mad at him, you know what I mean. 271 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: I took every action I did, you know, so once 272 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: he kicked me out, it was what it was. But 273 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: we ended up moving to Georgia. You know, I had changed, 274 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: so I wanted to start over. You know, like, man, 275 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm in a new place. I can't act the same 276 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, give people a different perspective for me, 277 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm not a bad kid, like I actually like 278 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: my family. I was raised with respect, a lot of respect, 279 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Like I didn't disrespect people. I just was very active, 280 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: Like I had a lot of energy. It was hard 281 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: to control me. But I never disrespect my elder, you 282 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's more so I had 283 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: to get out of my comfortable, my comfort zone and 284 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: mi Ami. I was so comfortable and I thought what 285 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: I was doing was just right and I was good. 286 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: But once I moved to Georgia, open my eyes and 287 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: like I'm on my own, I gotta grind, you know 288 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, I gotta lock in. So I did 289 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: that and it paid all. Yeah, talking about the grind, 290 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean you were a zero, a no star recruit 291 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: right coming out of high school. So I mean talking 292 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: about working your way up from the bottom, you know, 293 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean you went the community college, you know Juko 294 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: kind of route. Well, how did that kind of mold you? 295 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: And what was that experience like that? That journey man, 296 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: That journey was crazy. It was crazy. It was ups 297 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: and downs. I can't tell you that I didn't I 298 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: lost faith one time but you know I had I 299 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: had to keep my faith grown. What was it they 300 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: caused you to lose faith? Juco Man, just going into 301 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: my last year, offers like I'm bawling, like I ended 302 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: up catching, like like I had like four or five picks, 303 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: no offers still coming in like I was. I was like, man, 304 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: I might not make it out here. This might be 305 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: my last, my last season playing ball. So I went 306 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: again down on myself a little bit, but at the 307 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: same time, football kept uplifting me. Every game I played, 308 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I just enjoyed it. I had fun with my guys, 309 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we was a real brotherhood. 310 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: It was real tight, we depending on each other. And 311 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: then like we played Coffeeville. It was my breakout game. 312 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I had four picks that one game and the pick 313 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: six to just the end and it overtime. So it 314 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: was crazy and I'm like, yeah, I stayed the course. Man, God, God, God, God, 315 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: he come through every time. So it was like it 316 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: was crazy. And after that game, I blew up, you 317 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But people still doubted me because 318 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I was small stuff like that, But that never phased me. 319 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: It's just the fact that I just wanted another opportunity. 320 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: It didn't matter where, but it came in late, but 321 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, it happened. So I was excited. So after 322 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: that coffee ball game, you that you got a bunch 323 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: of offers in Minnesota. Minnesota offered me after that game. Wow, 324 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: it was crazy And I went crazy that game and 325 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: like the whole time, like I watched so much film 326 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: on him because we had like a bye week, so 327 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I had an extra week to watch film. So I 328 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: was like he was like muscle memory out there, Like 329 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I knew every route they was going to a round. 330 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: What I had to do for them to try try 331 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: me to throw the ball, Like what I had to 332 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: like show the quarterback, you know what I mean. It 333 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: was simple like Juco was another high school. Like it 334 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: was just a advanced high school level, you know what 335 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was nothing compared to college because 336 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: everything was simple. Your feel me Like what it was 337 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna do on third down? They was gonna do it 338 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: on third down, Like they wasn't adjusting nothing but just 339 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: just go make the play. So like I watched so 340 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: much film, like and it paid off. Like I really 341 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: went crazy that game. It was coffee one of the 342 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: last chance use schools. Oh no, it was Independence. Okay, Okay, 343 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,239 Speaker 1: I know that name, but I just couldn't remember. It's 344 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: we're in the same conference, but Coffeeville wasn't. On the 345 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: last chance you Okay, So when you get to Houston, 346 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Like what was that transition like from you know, like 347 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: so you gonna pay high school and you play duco, 348 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: which you said it's kind of like a little bit 349 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: of a step up. All of a sudden you're in 350 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: this other Like what was that transition? Like, yeah, it's 351 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the system, like when you go D one, Like just 352 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: like here, it's a system, you know what I mean, 353 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Like different things like coaches put in screens. Players still play, 354 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: but you know, coaches making adjustments halftime, Like you gotta 355 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: you have to like understand more about football. You just 356 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: can't just be playing running around playing like you gotta 357 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: understand your job. Who where your help at? Like you 358 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: feel me like, how how can I make this play? 359 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Can I chance it on this play? You know? Things 360 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: like that what down it is? You know, down and distance? 361 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: All that stuff played a big part. So and then 362 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: when I got to college, the routes got longer, and 363 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: JUCO the routes to break off at ten and nine. 364 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: After that, they've done running a route. I went to college. Man, 365 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: they's getting deeper, like they're pushing deeper quarterback time, and 366 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: it's a little different. So like I had to adjust 367 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: to that my first year, I mean, and having a 368 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: great coach like Doug Belt and coach efforts on my 369 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: on my behind, like just keep pushing me and motivating me, 370 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: because they knew I could to do it. So like 371 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: that whole my whole first year, I ended up. I 372 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: came in like third fourth screen, you know, spring ball, 373 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: just just grind and just grind and just working my 374 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: way up. I ended up starting my first year there, 375 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, every snap, like I never got the game, 376 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like that was a 377 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: big that was a big challenge, like to come in 378 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: and play every snap and hold it down, like and 379 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I showed him that I can do it. So I 380 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: earned a lot of respect from them on that. So 381 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: after that, they went to expanding my knowledge even more. 382 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: They went to teaching me different positions and things like that, 383 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, just to help me out my value. So 384 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: when I get to the next level that I I'm 385 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: not confused when somebody puts me in a different position. 386 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Did you think that they were kind of surprised at 387 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: like that fast ascension that like you go from this 388 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: guy who like wasn't really on the radar, and you 389 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: have a huge game and then you all of a 390 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: sudden on everyone's radar juco. And then you get to 391 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: college and you're starting right away like where your coaches like, man, 392 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: you get making us look good here for breaking year. 393 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: Like what was kind of their thought at that time 394 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: to be this? They knew what they was bringing in, 395 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they watched the film. Uh, 396 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: they just probably didn't know that I can adapt that fast. 397 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: And they'm like, how I think you know what I mean? 398 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: But once they once they've seen that, Once I got 399 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: a meeting and went to showing them that I want 400 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: to learn football, it just made their job easier. Like 401 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: I got somebody I can teach football. He's gonna take 402 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: everything I'm saying in and and go out and do it. 403 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: You feel me? So that was that was the biggest thing, 404 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Like they knew that I go and play like just 405 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: watching film, he wants to play football. But the knowledge part, 406 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: they didn't really know until I got there and I 407 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: showed him that look, coach, I want to learn, you 408 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna sitting 409 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: in to me and write my notes. I'm gonna learn 410 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: this cover and ask questions things like that. You know, 411 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: I was kind of nervous asking questions. But they built 412 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: us up, like in our DV room to challenge them. 413 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they always tell us I got a challenge 414 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: just to like ask us why we're doing this certain things. 415 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: So like that helped my I Q on the game. Like, coach, 416 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: while we're running this coverage right here, he'll break it 417 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: down and explain, you know, because boom bom, we don't 418 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: want to get beat on this, so we're gonna brack 419 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: at him boom boom boom. So I was like, Okay, 420 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: now you understand the game even more because your coach 421 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: telling you why we're doing this, So you know why 422 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: we got why we need to be on point, and 423 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: why we need to have our eyes right and and 424 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: do the job, you know what I mean. So that 425 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: was that was That was it. So you played left corner, 426 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: right corner, slot, You played once as many uh snaps 427 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: and slot as you did safety. I mean, so you 428 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: were at every single spot was there was there one 429 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: that you really liked over the other or what? In 430 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: college this previous year, I actually fell in love with safety. 431 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean just I guess, I guess just how my 432 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: coach was teaching it, you know what I mean. It 433 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: he simplified everything for me, you know, like my knowledge, 434 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: like not throwing a lot. He threw a lot at me, 435 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: but he basically simplified it, so it wasn't a lot 436 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: for real. It sounded like a lot, but it really 437 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot because half the stuff meant the same thing. 438 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: But safe there, I felt. I felt comfortable back there. 439 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: You know, you get a bigger you or the whole 440 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: field anymore. That ain't street ball right now? A street 441 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: ball in your facing streetball, you know, and nickel nickel. 442 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You make a lot of players in the slot to 443 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: like that slot, like I can. I can play corner 444 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: and also be active in the ring game, you know 445 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I love corner, you know, being 446 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: on that island by myself just holding it down. But 447 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: with me, I like to be active when I like 448 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: to talk. When I'm at corner, I can't really scream 449 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: and yell and talk to these guys because I gotta 450 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: hold it down. I am by myself. But when I'm 451 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: in that slot, like I'm I'm with I'm with my guy, 452 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: so I can I can get that energy floor and 453 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: we can go play fast. So you know, that slot 454 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: and safety is well, you know, I fell in love 455 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: with it basically right. You know, it's a guy who 456 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: was like undersized at certain points. Did you feel like 457 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: players will test you? Oh yeah, yeah like that. Yeah, 458 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. You think I'm sweet? Yeah, 459 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm too small. Yeah, come on, I'm finish show, you know. 460 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's that's my attitude. Like a 461 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys think because they just big, that they 462 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: can do all this and they're gonna bully me. But 463 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready like that. Like my uncle Dum used 464 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: to bully me. But I want to allow them to. 465 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't arrage me to be bully, you 466 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So a lot of receivers think 467 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: because they big that oh that's easy work. And I 468 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: get on him now they're like, oh, you're a little 469 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: feisty one. You feel me so like I ain't. I 470 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: ain't going for nothing. I believe it. I can see 471 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: that at times, even during mini camp and O t 472 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: A is like it seems like, uh, you know, trash 473 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: talk is kind of part of your game. I'm gonna 474 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: get on your skin a little bit. I got to. 475 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: I got I want to see how think your skin 476 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: is because some people are shut down, you know what 477 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: I mean. So I want to see if you are 478 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: shut down on me, you know what I mean. So 479 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: it's just me challenging you, you know what I mean. 480 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: But once I'm in the game, I don't really say 481 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: nothing to people unless they start talking to me because 482 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing my job, having fun, planning on, flying around, communicating. 483 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: But when somebody started talking trash, oh, it's oh wait 484 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: for you. Well, the funny thing I remember was like 485 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: you walking off the field after one of the minicamp 486 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: practices and I want to say, one of the wide 487 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: receivers coach was um and he was kind of saying, 488 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get you tomorrow, like we're gonna 489 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: get you, and you were giving it back. You ain't 490 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: getting me, man, getting you work hard in that DV room. 491 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: So I wasn't worried by him. Yeah, you're just like 492 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: filling your chest be like come on, throwing me. I 493 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: want that work. I don't like being bored. That's why 494 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I love Nickel. I ain't ever board. I always got 495 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: something to do, what I mean, So, like I hate 496 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: being bored. Like, come at me every day and practice 497 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: make me better, you know what I mean. Because I'm 498 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: trying to help the team win games, you know what 499 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean. So I gotta get better. You know, you 500 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: gotta challenge me. Just because you locked somebody up don't 501 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: mean you feel you can finish the play. It's all 502 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: about finishing that play. You know, you might start, might 503 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: be good, but you gotta finish, you know what I mean. 504 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: So I want you to come at me. You you 505 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: were saying that you were like too small to play 506 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: at age level. How small were you when you were 507 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: growing up? Man? My mom thought I wasn't gonna grow 508 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: That's how small I was. My gross sper ain't hit 509 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: to like my ninth grade year, Like it was crazy. 510 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: So like that was my tchip on my shoulder. I'm 511 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: already smaller than everybody, but they ain't finna gym bullying me, 512 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's where it came from. 513 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: R So, how described your kind of excitement going into 514 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: this training camp and just like this is an opportunity 515 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: for you. You're gonna get a lot of work, he said. 516 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: You like the world, You're a lot of it out 517 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: here training camps as a rookie and a really talented 518 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: deep secondary. So what are you looking to established and 519 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: proved during this time. I'm just I'm looking to stoblish 520 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: and let the coach know that I can be consistent 521 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna learn, you know what I mean, And 522 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna play hard each and every snout. 523 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: So you know, like I say, preseason my season right now, 524 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm a rookie, So I'm taking preseason very serious, like 525 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: the last gang on me, like the super Bowl to me, 526 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like that's that's what 527 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to stoblish. I'm gonna go out there earn 528 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: respect from each one of the players out there, you 529 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you gotta give respect if 530 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: you want to get somebody to give it to you. So, 531 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, me just like flying around keeping the guys uplifted, 532 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, good and bad. You know, 533 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: we stick together. You know that that's just our model 534 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: where I come from. You know what I mean, the DBS, 535 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: we stick together. We bring the swag to the team. 536 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, we're the energy. So that's why I bring it. 537 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: I bring it with me every day. God, I was 538 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, I have a couple cup more for you one. 539 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, you and Jail and Armor Davis both picked 540 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. He seems like he's got a 541 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: little bit of a different personality, Like he's chiller. I 542 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: think he's a dad, right alright, you know, and like 543 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: it's how how are you too? Like jelling and bonding? 544 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Is it really cool to have another guy, you know, 545 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: pick the same round of the same position as you, 546 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, most definitely, most definitely. I've seen Jayalen hat 547 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: to comebine. We don't speak too much, but you know, 548 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: seeing him getting drafted to the same team and me, 549 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean we speak. You know, Jayden is really cool. 550 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: You fit me Like he's a he's a dad, he's 551 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: a husband, so you know you're gonna act a little different, 552 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: but he's not. He's not really different, you know what 553 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: I mean. Like you just gotta talk to him, really, 554 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, some people just gotta talk to Can you 555 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: convince him to like come out and hang out with 556 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: you or CT busy. Oh yeah, more definitely he got 557 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: He got mad one time Marlow had took all the 558 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: DBS to dinner and we forgot to text him, so 559 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: he got mad at Yeah. Yeah, man, Jayden is cool man. 560 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: All the dbs in the secondary cool man, Like I 561 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: could say, were brought in some good guys, like I 562 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: could tell by the energy. You know, everybody wants to 563 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: get better and just compete and help help the team's. 564 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure how well you've got to 565 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: know Marcus Peters yet, you know, as a as a 566 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: vet who's you know, he's working his way back from 567 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: the injury, but you know he's somebody that people know 568 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: that the trash talk and the attitude and and just 569 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: the kind of the tone that he sets out there 570 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: on the field. And I get similar kind of vibes 571 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: of that, and talking to you, how excited are you 572 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: to have him as a teammate and and knowing I'm 573 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: sure he's a guy that you've probably watched her. Definitely 574 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: more definitely I was watching him when he was at Washington. 575 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, Washington producers a lot of good dbs, so 576 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, and he's been trash talking since college. You know, Kim, 577 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: that's in his game. But the crazy thing about it, 578 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: when I got here, Marcus Peters actually took me out 579 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: to eat with him. You feel me just I was 580 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: in a hotel, you know, I talked up with him like, man, come, come, 581 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: come right, we're gonna get uneat. You know, he's just 582 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: topping up telling me that basically, I gotta find my 583 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: find my routine, you know, so I can. You know, 584 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: I can stay in here for as long as possible. 585 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: I feel me and do everything right. Just give me 586 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: free game, you know, as a as a rookie, you 587 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: feel my respect him for that. You know, I haven't 588 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: seen him on the field yet, but I already know 589 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: what type of guy is on the field. May keep 590 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: the energy you want to win, You're dog. I could 591 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: tell just about talking to him and the energy you 592 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: give both. So once you get out there and get 593 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: suited up, I'm definitely gonna be room for him. Yeah, 594 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: that's I think that's the kind of thing that people 595 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know about, Like Mark Marcus Peters. It's like 596 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: you see like the trash talk and that like bravado 597 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: on the field, But the story of him like taking 598 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: you under his win, like you don't. I don't think 599 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: people know that, so he had to do it him. 600 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: He didn't even know me from a candim pagn He 601 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: just knew I was a rookie, you know. I said, 602 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: if you were to him, you know he did. He 603 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: feeled me just like come on, Lego Grass on the 604 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: eat and we talked it up from now you feel 605 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: me basically like build a little connection, you know, and 606 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: it's just respect, you know what I mean? So I 607 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: respect him for that. After we drafted you, I remember, 608 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: you know you said you didn't really think the Ravens 609 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: were going to be the team, like you one zoom 610 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: call with Chris Hewitt, I believe you said. And then 611 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I ain't even talked. I ain't even talked to Chris. 612 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: Chris had some something to do, so I talked to 613 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Cool then. So it was crazy. So in my head, 614 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, ion know, who won't imagine I want to 615 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: play some football for me? But when they gave him 616 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the car, I was like yeah, and a crazy thing 617 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: about it. Every time I play man I played with 618 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens. It's crazy. Like my teammate from UM from Houston, 619 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: he was like twin, Well you at the Ravens twin 620 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: you really played with the Raves every game you played 621 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: Man two twin, that's crazy. It was crazy Man five, 622 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: Crazy Man. Well, it's cool too that, you know. David Blackburne, 623 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: one of our scouts, was really the one who kind 624 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: of stuck his neck out for you and like you 625 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: were his guy, you know, and he got to call you. 626 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: I think he made the call to tell you that 627 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: you were Ravens. So I mean that that had to 628 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: be a special moment, so I appreciate what was digging 629 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: the neck out for him. Is now I'm gonna hold 630 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: it down for right, right. And then my last one 631 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: was you know, coach you would also said. I think 632 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: I asked him about you during mini camp, you know, 633 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: just how the work he's come along and how how 634 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: are you doing? And he was like, dude, you know, 635 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't care about the size, I don't care about 636 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: the speed, I don't care about anything. That he's a 637 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: football player, Like what does that mean to you? And 638 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: is that something that you feel like you carry as 639 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: a badge ndor like people can say whatever the hell 640 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: they want about all the intangibles, but I'm gonna wear 641 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that badge, you know, more definitely more definitely my coach, coach. 642 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: But I always told me that too, Like, man, you're 643 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: a football player. No matter what, what the job I 644 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: need to be done, I'm gonna get it done. That like, 645 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: that's my motto, big fathe It don't matter. You can 646 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: put me in the box, what you need me to do, 647 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it done. You feel me like it's 648 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: football at the end of the day. Everybody job end up. 649 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Once the ball caught and it's in motion, everybody gotta 650 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: go running hit. You know what I mean, Ain't too much, 651 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: ain't too much thinking. Everybody job a little different. I 652 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: gotta cover line back, I gotta field guts. But once 653 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: the ball out out, everybody going to running hit. So 654 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: it's just football at the end of the day. I've 655 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: been playing this our whole live, so you know I 656 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: won't never let it get too big in my head 657 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: that Oh I'm in the NFL. These guys must be. 658 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: You feel me Like I go out and I challenge people. 659 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to show me you can out 660 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: work me. Right Awesome, I love it. Well, thanks for 661 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: joining us, man, Well that was great stuff from Peppe, 662 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: and we want to remind fans that the sports landscape 663 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: is ever changing and this week is no different. DraftKings, 664 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: the leader in daily fantasy sports, still has daily fantasy 665 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: contests running for those looking to have skin in the game. 666 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: It's simple. 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Yeah, I 675 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: mean I think he's probably gonna be a lot of 676 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: people's guy. You're all jumping on board. Well, I think 677 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fans are going to like Pepe William's 678 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: after listening to that, and we always make the joke. 679 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: You do the interview, then it's like, oh, I really 680 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: like this guy. First of all, there have a lot 681 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: of likable guys. That's part of the reason for that. 682 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: But Honestly, you can see why the Ravens wanted to 683 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: draft him, you know, and say, like, you know what, 684 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a chance on this guy. Like, sure, 685 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ideal size that you want in 686 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a cornerback, but like he has. What stands out to 687 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: me is he loved football. Like he loves football. It 688 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: means something to him. He played it when it like 689 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: wasn't part of any organization or any sort was playing 690 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: the game. He played it at Juco, he played at 691 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: it different high school. Yeah, I mean, like he loves 692 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: the game, And uh, I think that's you want to 693 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: get people on your team that love football and likes 694 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, and most guys in the NFL love the game. 695 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: But there's there's levels to that. Even at the NFL level. 696 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: You have to you have to really enjoy it to 697 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: get to this level, of course, but then there is 698 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: also a scale there, right, you know what you do, 699 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: and he is at the top of that scale, and 700 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: you can I think the fans probably know that came 701 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: across in the conversation with him. Yeah, absolutely, So you know, 702 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what kind of role he 703 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: carves out this year. You know, the Ravens obviously are 704 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: without Tavon Young. Now they're looking for a slack corner. 705 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Is that Kyle Fuller, the veteran that they signed who 706 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: plays some slot and played it well last year in Denver, 707 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: certainly could be UM. But I think he's gonna get 708 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: pushed by Demarrian and and uh, you know, by Brandon Stevens. 709 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: I think that those three you're gonna have a pretty 710 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: good competition for who gets what percentage of snaps and 711 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: and how does Demarrian get on the field on the defense, 712 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: because I think you will. I think you will. And 713 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: and part of that because injuries not gonna what always 714 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: happen at cornerback. You hope they don't, but they do. UM, 715 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: And so de Marian is gonna We're gonna see him 716 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: on the field this year. I can guarantee that. Yeah. 717 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Two of the things that slid out to me and 718 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: I interview won the Marcus Peters story. I just think 719 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: just kind of gives you a glimpse into the type 720 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: of guy that Marcus Peters is and the and the 721 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: leadership role that he takes behind the scenes on this team. 722 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: And the second is that, like Peppe has fired up 723 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: about the preseason, like he said it me coming down here. 724 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: He said it again in the interview, like this is 725 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: my season, and like, of course, you know, he could 726 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: end up carving out a nice role for himself in 727 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: the regular season, but in order to do that, he's 728 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to establish himself in the preseason and training camp. 729 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: And like I know, exactly know. It's like I love 730 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: the preseason bow. Yeah, it's like that's the time and 731 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: so um, like I think it's pretty it's it gives 732 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: you some insight into again his passion for the game. 733 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: And then also just like this unique look at the preseason, 734 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. Well, they're gonna get 735 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot of playing time because the veterans are not. 736 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that. Um. Alright, So we have 737 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: a few emails here. Uh first one comes from Joseph 738 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: Eckert says, Hey, guys, love the show. Can you find 739 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: out what the conditioning tests would be for a Ravens 740 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver? He says, he wants to try it and 741 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: we'll send the results. Uh So the conditioning tests has 742 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: been tweaked a little bit, um, but and we're not 743 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: really sure what the times are anymore since the days 744 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: I ran it, which was a decade ago or something 745 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: like that. If you if you go back and watch 746 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: that video, that's always a great one. Yeah, I mean 747 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: that's an all time I mean that was like the 748 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: season I think and make ran the conditioning test for 749 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman and barely. I mean, I was died 750 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: that day, my life flashing for eyes. I was gassing 751 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: for air on the ground, like hyper ventilating. I'm not 752 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: even joking, Like half an hour I was. I remember 753 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: sweating profusely a half an hour later after I ran it. 754 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: It was not a good scene. My hair was really 755 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: bad then. You look back, my hair was my hair 756 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: is bad now because it hasn't improved. It was worse then. Yeah, 757 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: So go back and watch that if you want half 758 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: you laughs. Another email comes from Ryan Bamberry. He says, uh, hey, guys, 759 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: of course we can't go into an off season without 760 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: having to talk about the receiver position. He says, I 761 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: like the receivers we have, and I think they deserve 762 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the snaps to prove themselves. But I know the most 763 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: that most of the fan base is pretty nervous. Everyone 764 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: is looking outward for another playmaker. But I'm wondering if 765 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: we already have a potential chain mover on the roster, 766 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on having Isaiah Likely playing on 767 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the outside as a receiver. He said he played tight 768 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: end in college, but he's a smaller frame and he 769 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: has a smaller from Dann Waller, who drafted as a 770 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver. We don't know his official forty times since 771 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: he didn't run it the combine, but Isaiah Likely. Um. 772 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: He says he doesn't look slow. He's obviously a player, 773 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: playmaker who can catch, so we want to get the 774 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Could Greg Roman get creative and 775 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: alleviate the possible possible I can't talk on this question. 776 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Good Greg Roman, get creative and alleviate the possible long 777 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: jam at tight end by moving Likely to receiver Andrews 778 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: this long al Right, we know a question? Stumbling all 779 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: over myself, should we record that one? Now, let's roll 780 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: say Likely is held re question stuff to follow that? 781 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Um No, I don't think he's gonna play receiver. I mean, 782 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: do you think they drafted him to be a tight end? 783 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: And I know that there's the Ravens are thin at receiver, 784 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: but taking a mid round tight end and moving him 785 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: to receiver before he's even played a game at tight end. 786 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the answer to that question. I 787 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: don't this from you know what it reminds you of. 788 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: This reminds me when when fans were like emailing us 789 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: all the time asking about the possibility of miles by 790 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: right right to the reverse right. So they want to 791 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: boaken to play tight end, and they bully me into 792 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: ask John Hardball the question, and then I got destroyed. 793 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: And you know what John's answer was was basically like, no, 794 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: that's not happening, but he does tight end ish kind 795 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: of things. And I think the same answer applies to 796 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely. No, he's not a wide receiver. He's a 797 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: tight end, but he will do wide receiver ish things. 798 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: I think that Darren Waller has kind of ruined the whole, 799 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: like the switch between and he just did he made 800 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: it look so easy and switching from dominating because like 801 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: you could be the next year wall exactly, and like 802 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: now this is kind of suggesting the the alternate move. 803 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: I think likely. I did think that he shows some 804 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: real promise, especially he had the great practice at the 805 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: end of many camps. So then you go into the 806 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: summer thinking like, man, this guy is gonna be really 807 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: good player, and he might end up being a really 808 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: good player. Um, but I think first worry about tight 809 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: end before we're starting to move his position. Um. And 810 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's not gonna be like inline, big blocking 811 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: tight end, I don't think, you know what I mean, 812 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: Like Charlie Cohler. Now he flecks out a fair amount too, 813 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 1: but he's different guys, right, and they compliment each other. Well, 814 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: I think Isaiah likely will you know, they can motion 815 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: him across the formation, you can line up outside in 816 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: the slot, he can, he can do a lot of 817 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: different Yeah, he's versa yes, exactly. So, um, it'll be 818 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: interesting to see what kind of you know. And like 819 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: I've said, I don't think, barring injuries, either of the 820 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: tight at rookie tight ends are going to have a 821 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: huge role this year. I think they will have a role, 822 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: but I don't expect that like they're gonna be changed 823 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: the offense dramatically. Yeah yeah, yeah, and I think that 824 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: that's I mean, these guys are mid round tight ends 825 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: who are trying to earn their spot in an NFL 826 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: offense and like now be changing their positions to solve 827 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: and solve a problem at a different position. I don't 828 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: think is the direction that the Ravens are gonna go. So, look, 829 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: the first practice of training camp is next Wednesday, so 830 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: it's July. That's the first time we're gonna be able 831 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: to see these guys on the field, and during training 832 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: camp we're able to watch all practice throughout the entire summer, 833 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: so it's it's really an opportunity to just see who's 834 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: playing well and where this team stacks up at that point. 835 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: And then uh, the open practice, which actually just uh 836 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: essentially sold out. I mean it's free, but fans claimed 837 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: all the passes. That just gives you an indication of 838 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: how fired up fans are for this season. That's gonna 839 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: be on July thirty a m T. Banks Stadium, and 840 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: that's all sold out at this point, with you know, 841 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: more than a week ago. So that just tells you 842 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: how the energy is going into this season. So I 843 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. 844 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll have guests throughout to make sure you 845 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: keep it locked right here, and we will be back 846 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: with you next week.