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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello, hello, Hello, Hello, call It crew, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to another episode of Short and Sweet.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Camilla, Yeah, what are you gonna wear this fall?

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Speaker 3: I don't know? Should we check out the full fashion trend?

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Speaker 2: What's funny is we did this for summer and we

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Speaker 2: found out the collar for the summer was butter yellow.

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Speaker 3: According to never.

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Speaker 4: Worn more butter yellow in my life.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere I couldn't stop seeing it, nails, everything. I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, it really it really.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you feel like these things are a trend on,

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Speaker 2: like you know, in these magazines, and they're not really.

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Speaker 3: I saw it everywhere. I wore some yellow this summer

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Speaker 3: to an event. I was I like it. So now

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Speaker 3: here we are for fall?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's in all?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I got a stake peek at this

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Speaker 1: and it's all my favorites. I just want to say

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Speaker 1: that fall is going to be my season.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. Let's talk a by all of it.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hearing the Boho is back, and you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about a Cienna Miller circus Sienna and

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Speaker 1: Jude Law moment.

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Speaker 3: But boho is back in what way? Though?

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Speaker 1: I think it's like the romantic lace dresses and the

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Speaker 1: sweet boots and the like the seventies Vie, the Ciena

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Speaker 1: Miller with Jude Law.

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Speaker 3: Yes, situation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I what I am seeing and what I have seen,

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Speaker 2: So I'm opening up.

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Speaker 3: I'm opening up glamour as we speak. But what I

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Speaker 3: have seen is that there's a lot of silk or

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Speaker 3: lace dresses that you throw a huge baggy sweater over

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Speaker 3: and I'm digging that look with some knee high boots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Highs are in.

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Speaker 2: I love a thigh high and I will never give

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Speaker 2: up a thigh high.

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Speaker 3: But the knee highs are having a huge moment.

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Speaker 4: The thigh highs make me feel a little.

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Speaker 2: Puss in boots mean too, Listen, I oh the thigh highs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go knee high.

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Speaker 1: If it goes thigh high, I'm a cartoon character or

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Speaker 1: I'm a pirate.

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Speaker 3: No, I do I love a thigh high. I do

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Speaker 3: I love a thigh.

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Speaker 4: You're wearing boots up to your thigh.

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Speaker 3: You've seen me in them? I wore them?

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Speaker 4: No, I know I have seen them on you.

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Speaker 2: But like you're saying it like you've never seen me

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Speaker 2: in them, and you literally spend a.

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Speaker 3: Day Sunday wearing them with you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, moving on, maybe I thought you looked a

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Speaker 4: little puss and boots.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna love this because this is this is you,

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Speaker 3: a little town and country show.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is where I'm gonna soar.

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Speaker 3: Yes, just try and give up with me.

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Speaker 4: I'm a high flyer in this.

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Speaker 2: Saying earthy plaid, full skirt, luxurious out thick outerweard, Ralph Lauren,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Lauren, Doan Dowen, I mean all of it, all

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm here for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm here. I am here for that too. I'm very

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Speaker 3: much here for that too, because it's also a little

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Speaker 3: it's like preppy, yes.

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Speaker 1: But preppy like my generation preppy, not preppy like whatever

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Speaker 1: the kids are saying is preppy.

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Speaker 4: No, No, like like popped collars preppy. Yeah, and uh country,

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: A little varsity, a little like that varsity vibe. Yes.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I turned him out the other day

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I think I'm gonna what is

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Speaker 2: it called when like a pop star rebrand, like a

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Speaker 2: rebrand or a.

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Speaker 4: Little reboot, little repuss and boots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, and I said, and he was not impressed.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't have cared less.

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Speaker 4: You probably didn't know what you were talking about.

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Speaker 2: He did because I went into great detail of what

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Speaker 2: the new Camilla will look like. And I got to say,

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Speaker 2: she looks great. Yeah, started yet, but she looks really chic.

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Speaker 2: She looks a trillion dollars. She owns a horse, she rides,

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Speaker 2: is like, she looks amazing. She just hasn't come out yet.

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Speaker 2: And then I put on my crop top of my

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Speaker 2: my shredded jeans. But she's coming out and I feel

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Speaker 2: it this fall.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's not just preppy country life. It's preppy academia.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's like, see, you've had some loafers with some socks.

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Speaker 3: It's like I went to college. It's like it's like

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Speaker 3: you went to college, but I didn't. Yeah, but that's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's like when I was in college and I this

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Speaker 1: is what I wore, Yeah, and I was dressing like

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Speaker 1: someone who went to college.

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Speaker 4: He's in my mind.

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Speaker 2: Okay, one of my favorite colors is in gonna be

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Speaker 2: really in a deep purple ooh yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's in my color wheelhouse, but I love they're

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Speaker 2: calling it a purple they're calling it purple rain.

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Speaker 3: Oh I spelled a little differently.

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Speaker 4: Oh will it be quite like butter yellow or will

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Speaker 4: it just be? Will it be a little more quiet?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how quiet it's gonna be. I'm not sure. Now.

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Speaker 3: Something that's in that I am not excited about and

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Speaker 3: you won't sue me in cut to me wearing it

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Speaker 3: in like a week. Are the slouchy sort of ankle boots.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not wearing those.

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Speaker 3: I'm not wearing those.

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Speaker 4: Do you else? I'm not wearing what else?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear an oversized peplum blaser.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not.

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Speaker 4: Nor am I gonna wear a knee length Bermuda short. Well.

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Speaker 3: Also, did you see the zebra stripes? Listen? I can

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Speaker 3: do I'm not gonna do that. I can do. I

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Speaker 3: can do a a the leopard. I can do leopard.

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Speaker 3: I can't do a zebra. I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 3: won a zebra stripe in my life.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I had a bikini one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I could do a bikini. I can maybe do

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Speaker 3: a bikini.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is gonna be this is gonna be your

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Speaker 2: jam right here, jess tell me fall sneakers, Jessica capsule

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Speaker 2: A sneaker, you, guys, I do and Mary Jane's.

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Speaker 4: I'm not wearing a Mary Jane sneaker.

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Speaker 3: You're not a Mary Jane.

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Speaker 1: No, no, and one hundred percent now a Mary Jane's.

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Speaker 3: Have you met me and a Mary Jane sneaker? A

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Speaker 3: Mary Jane shoe? Dude? I literally think I was with

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Speaker 3: you and you try.

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Speaker 4: To Mary Jane sneakers.

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Speaker 2: Oh, not sneakers, a Mary Jane like with a heel.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you try on a Mary Jane with a heel.

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Speaker 4: The fact that you think I'm gonna wear a Mary

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Speaker 4: Jane sneaker.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say sneaker.

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Speaker 2: I went ahead and I just saw the Mary Jane.

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Speaker 2: Do you love how we're arguing with each other right now?

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Speaker 3: You guys, this is what is.

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Speaker 4: What it is to be with the color that I

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Speaker 4: didn't like.

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Speaker 2: Well, how do you feel about a brown Swede sneaker?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, that's not what I was expecting.

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Speaker 4: Really definitely not wearing a brown Swade sneaker. I'm wor

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Speaker 4: brown Swede sneaker.

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Speaker 3: Sure, that's what Birdie says is happening.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who you are.

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Speaker 3: A Swede is going to be in I like.

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Speaker 4: Sway, but it's hard to keep up, gets dirty and.

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Speaker 3: It is it is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, silver and animal print sneakers.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll tell you what I'm wearing. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 4: one off and show it to you right now.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: A boat shoe.

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Speaker 2: Boat shoes are in oh oh oh oh, okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna like this part of my rebrand, Jess is

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Speaker 2: I own multiple houses and nantucket.

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Speaker 4: Oh obviously, all next to Elen Hildebrand.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, I am. And there's been a murder in town.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you're gonna get to the bottom of it

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Speaker 2: in my boat shoes obviously.

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Speaker 4: Wait, one of my boat shoes has a charm on it.

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Speaker 4: That's what makes an extra.

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Speaker 2: So how do you feel about the bag charms? I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling them.

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling them too. This one, yeah, has a cute

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Speaker 4: little leather like I like or something. Yeah, I'm into it.

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Speaker 3: And we need to talk about our nails.

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Speaker 1: I'm either boho or I'm preppy. That's just you'll that's

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Speaker 1: where you'll find me. Those are the colors, you're Those

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Speaker 1: are the color stones.

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Speaker 3: I do a chunky knit and a short skirt on

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Speaker 3: Jessica Capshaw. Love it, love it, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, nails, I'm not You're don't have to do

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Speaker 1: them all because I can only wear one nail on

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Speaker 1: this show. So I'm just okay. French manicure girl, you

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Speaker 1: tell me what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Really, you think I can wear a bunch of nails

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Speaker 2: on Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 3: You know better.

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Speaker 4: I know I do that, right, I know.

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Speaker 1: But if I could, Okay, if I could, I would

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Speaker 1: wear chocolate brown nails.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So these are the nails that everyone's I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tie you the colors? Are you guys ready for this?

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Speaker 3: Primal latte nails? They're like an orange brown, really pretty

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Speaker 3: polka dots. I'm not into that. Nope, neutral auras.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means really, Okay, it kind

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Speaker 2: of the picture, you guys just kind of looks like

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Speaker 2: a very very light brown.

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Speaker 3: Chocolate brown is right on here. I do love a

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Speaker 3: chocolate brown. M H Forest tones for fall. I don't

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Speaker 3: think so.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Not a green. I'm not gonna do a deep green

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Speaker 3: and fall.

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Speaker 4: Not on my nails.

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Speaker 3: No, no, because I think that.

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Speaker 1: A manicure is a little bit of a commitment, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it takes effort to get to the nail salon,

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Speaker 1: and whether you're getting a regular manicure or you're getting

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Speaker 1: a jab manicure or whatever, like it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know what, it's a it's a situation.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 3: That's why I use kiss nails. This is not an

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Speaker 3: advocates nails that kiss nails.

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Speaker 2: Should be honest that you travel with. Yes, I do,

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Speaker 2: and they should be paying me money.

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Speaker 4: Well let's call them.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they're listening.

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Speaker 2: Metallic accents. Okay, So the picture it shows is like

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Speaker 2: maybe like you do a French you could do a

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Speaker 2: French nail with a little stripe of like a gold

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Speaker 2: I could that.

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Speaker 4: I've done that.

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Speaker 3: I know I've seen that on you. Shorter nails are

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Speaker 4: Rings, oh, every finger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a little Rachel Zoe two

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Speaker 2: So, guys, duck nails looks absurd to me, and they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they go out. No am I explaining as well?

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Speaker 3: Guys google it right now. Also, I think you know

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Speaker 3: about it. Hm. Burgundy, Oh oh my gosh, I was.

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Speaker 1: But not just Burgundy nails, Burgy everything for fall, everything,

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Speaker 4: They're the best.

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Speaker 3: Did you say Bermuda, Bermuda, Bermuda. Oh? Sorry, I'm not

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Speaker 3: a guys. It's really Jessica's making me do this podcast

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I haven't been. I haven't visited Bermuda recently, and

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Speaker 2: I forgot how it was sad okay, Bermuda shorts. There's

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Speaker 2: It did not look chic at all. It looked like

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Speaker 3: The point is I'm not wearing those shorts.

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Speaker 4: There's an R in Bermuda, and you can't wear the shorts.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 2: So I even said to Matt, I was like, I

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Speaker 3: It was really tragic.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm going to take some of

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Speaker 1: this to heart and I'm gonna weave it into Well,

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, we're still hot right now, we're not in fall.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know that's what's so frustrating about.

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Speaker 1: There it felt a little I felt a chill in

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay before we go, Yeah, I have

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Speaker 3: two questions for you. Extra large totes are gonna be

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Speaker 2: I love an extra large dough I love.

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Speaker 3: It, whisper I said, sometimes we have to as I

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Speaker 4: Here's where me and an extra large tote part ways.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you give me a lot of bag space,

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Speaker 1: I will fill it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And when it's a tote, traditionally it has a shorter handle.

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Speaker 1: You can't put it over my shoulder, and then I

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Speaker 3: This is true.

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Speaker 4: It's handheld.

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Speaker 3: All good points, and so.

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Speaker 4: I just have to be careful, Kamila, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Well you could, you

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Speaker 1: But listen along with my and this is not a trend, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is just who I am.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to me.

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Speaker 3: I love. I mean, I have tots I have.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at three of them and they're just right

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Speaker 3: I think that's good. Listen, you do a lot of traveling,

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Speaker 3: and travel equals tote.

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Speaker 4: Because you can just throw it in there.

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Speaker 3: You just throw it in there. Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, before you go go, I'm a little on the

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Speaker 3: In to me. I have a little like ugh from

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Speaker 2: out at the rope around. Yeah yeah, okay, so in

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Speaker 1: Well okay, I think, as with anything that is a trend,

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Speaker 4: So my feeling is I can't do a chunky belt.

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Speaker 3: It's not good for just it's not good. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: it's not good for me.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't work with her anatomy.

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Speaker 3: We're both five five. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 4: Five No, no, I mean, well I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, hey, you could be a five to

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Speaker 4: Mine are not. I'm a little.

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Speaker 1: I got a little less waste and more leg So

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Speaker 1: look at it that way, right, Like you get something

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Speaker 4: Belt is a good option. See.

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Speaker 1: Were on your thigh high boots and we're a party.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, you guys, this is what you're

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Speaker 1: I mean like maybe for the second or third time.

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Speaker 1: But we're cementing these falters exactly.

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Speaker 2: We're cementing it and we're sharing it, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: I I really it's so funny. I really did think

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Speaker 4: Love it, Love it all.

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Speaker 1: Right, tell us when you see these trends out in

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Speaker 1: the wild, hit us on our socials and let us

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Speaker 1: know what you're seeing.

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Speaker 3: Yep, let's call it. The end of the episode.