WEBVTT - Stop Letting My Dog Out!! 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.280 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:17.239 Armstrong and Jetty, and he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.640 He gotta be kind of old to know who Cat 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.280 Stevens is. He is like a soft rock guy from 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.720 back in the seventies and changed his name to something 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.000 or other as a mother sef Islam. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.520 He just he just announced a book tour. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.159 The only reason I bring it up is I am 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.080 reading the Salmon Rushdie memoir, in which he mentions that 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:47.040 Cat Stevens was among those calling for Salmon Rushdie's death 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.880 after he put out the satantic verses book Peace Train. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.560 Indeed, one more reason not to listen to guitar players 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.400 talking about politics or. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:03.800 The sometimes depending on who it is, the religion of peace. Uh, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.600 that was not my point. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:05.640 What was my point? Oh? 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.640 So the house meaning all night long? The rules committee 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.679 started at one am, and now there's more wrangling going 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.920 on over the big beautiful bill, and stuff keeps coming 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.640 in and out of it. We could have the very 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.920 latest on that this hour. There's been some interesting wranglings. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.000 I can tell you what the net result will be, though, 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.959 is we're going to go further and further into debt. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.080 I just came across this quote that I really like. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.280 The arc of democracy is long, but it bends toward insolvency. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.240 That seems to beautiful. That is beautiful. 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.120 I was trying to find the email from one of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.399 our beloved listeners who called the big beautiful Bill. I 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.199 can't remember what he called him, but it's a big 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:49.280 beautiful horror and disappointment and betrayal of ourselves and our kids. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.800 Anyway, don't get me started too late. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.320 I thought this was very, very interesting in a moment 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.680 or two, a discussion, a digest of you will, if 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.560 you will, of various thoughts about why kids cheat using AI. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.000 They're lazy, ah, and you brought them up poorly. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.240 As I said last week, dipping my toe into AI 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.720 for the first time, I thought, how would you not? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.640 It is so easy, It would be so easy to 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.360 get a boost. I mean, not just flat out write 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.440 the paper for me, but like some easy, serious help. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.000 That would be a hell of a shortcut. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.079 Yes, yeah, and I will plan in advance on being 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.560 unsatisfied with this segment when it ends, because this ought 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.200 to be this discussion. Why are kids cheating with it? 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.880 How can we stop them from cheating with it? And indeed, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.920 should we even try to stop them from cheating with it? 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.880 Could be like a series of four three hour podcasts, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.160 and even then it would probably leave people scratching their heads. Anyway, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.519 Having said that, I thought this was crazy. I saw 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.680 this video today. This is an illustration of one of 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.400 Google's AI products, and I was reading about how they 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.680 actually have some pretty interesting stuff coming. They feel like 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.400 they're behind the chat GPT and that sort of thing. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.200 Evil company. You got to keep that in mind. Oh yeah, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:07.880 terribly evil. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.880 But they are a little behind the mass market for 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.640 AI tools for the consumer, but they're way behind among 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.239 the tools young people choose. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.120 Well, have they rolled out their best I remember when 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.000 I was talking about this like two years ago, because 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.280 I knew some people in that world that Google was 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.440 pouring more money in it to than anybody, but holding 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.280 their fire to like really release the takeover the world. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.200 You know, the way Google dominated search engines. They wanted 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:45.280 to land with such a everybody was using. It becomes 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.640 the Xerox or Kleenex of AI. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.600 But did they release theirs and fail or Uh No, 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.480 it's just all developing so fast. I think that, you know, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.280 check back in a week, that'll be a new headline. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.400 And I don't I'm not qualified to answer that question 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.640 because all of these services and you know, apps and all, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:10.240 they have clever sounding names like Gemini and Perplexity and 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.200 the rest of it, and I have trouble remembering who's this. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.240 Who's I'm not an expert by anybody, but it's the 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:14.800 Google guy. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.839 Though that said AI was going to be as big 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.839 to mankind as fire right. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.600 So for instance, this is from Google Meat, which we 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:26.159 use now and again they have launched their real time translator. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:32.520 Et pardon me, m et, yes, yes, meeting. We use 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:37.240 the platform ourselves as opposed to Google Meat. I don't 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:41.080 want to eat anything Google makes anyway. So it's a 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.919 real time speech translator. What you're going to hear is 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.800 a gentleman asking a question and the gal starts to 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.440 answer him, but he, you know, presumably is more comfortable 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.320 with Spanish or whatever, and he clicks on his screen 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.560 that he wants to hear her in Spanish instead. Uh, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.480 and and then we'll we'll interpret in a moment, Go 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:05.760 ahead and roll at. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:13.040 Michael, where would you like to go? On your next vacation. Oh, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.360 where would I like to go on my next vacation? 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:21.400 Well, I can tell you about an upcoming just pain 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:34.240 to Majorca, Rapos, Sacramento, Semana. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.680 Okay, So not only is it simultaneously with just like 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:44.920 a half second delay, simultaneously translating what she's saying, it's 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.159 doing it in her voice. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.960 It's emulating her voice. Right, I didn't catch that, but yes, obviously, yeah, yeah, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.799 so I mean a tool. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.080 I mean because those of us who've traveled a bit 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.920 and used Google Translate, like a year and a half ago. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.000 So when we were in like Bavaria, I would look 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.359 at a sign on a truck and put it in 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.520 the camera and say, honey, that's a sausage truck, and 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.080 trying to read signs, you know, to figure out where 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.480 we were going, and it was super cool. And occasionally 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.040 you'd have a conversation with you know, say a German 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.159 speaker because I tried like hell to learn language. It's 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.800 too hard and I'm too dumb. But so somebody would 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.440 talk into it and you'd look at it and say, oh, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:32.839 the restaurant opens at five pm, muchas Gracias, which would 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.920 be a weird thing to say in Germany, but you know, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.400 you then move on with your life. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.560 Now you simultaneously translate it in their language. I needed 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.760 that so bad voice. I needed that so bad. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.479 When I was in Russia one particular day one I 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.320 wanted coffee so bad because I'm a coffee addict, and 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.200 I spent like an hour and a half trying to 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.760 figure out how I could find a coffee place, order 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.400 the coffee once I was there, pay for it. It 0:06:55.440 --> 0:07:00.640 was just impossible. It would have been effortless with that, Katie. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.600 You guys are talking about all of these beautiful countries. 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.520 I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, I have a nail appointment later. Yes, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.479 oh to find out what they're actually saying. You know 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.280 what that will dream? 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.760 There's that or the gardener guy who in my landlord hired, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.720 who kept letting my dog out and I wanted to 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.160 talk to about it. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.600 I didn't speak Spanish. I should have used this for 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.960 that stop letting my dog out? 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.320 You can just play him who let the dogs out? 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.760 He probably knows that song anyway, moving along, So I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.960 thought that was amazing in a cool tool, and you 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.640 know the future is now blah blah, blah. So getting 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.640 to the topic of students cheating. I came across a 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:45.400 really interesting Twitter thread and this guy's writing about has 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.280 anyone asked to stop. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.000 To ask why students cheat? I heard, Yes, I heard 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.480 the dumbest story the other day. This is typical of 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.480 mainstream media about AI and cheating. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.760 The lead being. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.880 Instructors are telling students not to cheat. But it turns 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.280 out some in college. I think it was Stanford. Turns 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:12.800 out Stanford crafted the questions for their latest test using AI. What, Gibbs, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:18.120 I thought, that makes perfect sense to use AI to 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:19.640 craft the questions for the test. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.760 What is that to your question? 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:23.880 Right? 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.600 The article? 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.400 Yeah, So this guy's premise is everyone's cheating their way 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.320 through college chat, GPT and others have unraveled the entire 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.080 academic project. And I thought this was really interesting and 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:42.120 somewhat troubling. And he delves into the article and interprets it. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.920 Interprets it by revealed preference. Students must think the work 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.400 they do in class is a waste of time. Fake 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.880 bonding activities and hippie gardening clearly aren't worth their time. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.760 They're talking about some of the classes they take, so 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.720 they outsource it to AI anything fun or interesting. They 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:02.760 still do by hand, hm, but this the profile is Sarah's, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.480 a freshman at the university, said she first used chat 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.760 ept to chat during the spring semester of her final 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.600 year of high school. After getting acquainted with the chatbot, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.800 she used it for all her classes, Indigenous studies, law, English, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.360 and hippie farming classes called green Industries. My grades were amazing, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.800 she said, it changed my life. She continued to use 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.000 AI when she started college this past fall. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:24.679 Why wouldn't she? 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.359 Then the phrase cheating changed my life? 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:36.840 So and then they quote this professor, a philosophy professor 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.199 across the country at the University of Arkansas, Little Rock 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.439 caught students in her ethics and Technology class using AI 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.760 to respond to the prompt briefly introduce yourself and say 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.600 what you're hoping to get out of this class? 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:53.880 Wow? Yeah, yeah, So I think I know where you're 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.120 going with the Is it even a good idea to 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.880 try to stop them? Because the future might be just 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.360 learning how to use AI as a tool, right to 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.800 answer any question or to do anything at an enormous 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.439 and horrifying cost, stay with us. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.280 So then I found this really interesting too. And as 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.120 I said at the beginning of the segment, this is 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.120 going to be unsatisfying and just scratch the surface, and 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.920 I wish we had unlimited time for it. But this 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.840 author then gets into a student who wants to write 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:29.880 by hand. I really like writing, she said, sounding strangely 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.880 nostalgic for a high school commerce class, which was last 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.959 time she wrote an essay unassisted. Honestly, she continued, I 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.160 think there's beauty and trying to plan your essay you 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.120 learn a lot. You have to think, oh, what can 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.800 I write in this paragraph? Or what should my wife scheem? 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.280 But she'd rather get good grades an essay with chatch EVT. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.440 It's like it just gives you straight up what you 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.640 have to follow. You just don't really have to think 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:58.360 that much. And so because the curriculum is designed not 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.319 to learn but to check boxes, you're much better off 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.960 using chat GPT, for instance, than trying to think it through. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.760 I'm thinking out louder, So don't beat me with both 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.520 fists before I've finished myself. I can't wait if you 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.160 will never have to write because you've got a tool 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.960 that will write for you. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:17.720 Do you need to. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:18.560 Learn to write? 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:19.400 Yes? 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.520 Why I will explain in a moment. It's a great question. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.040 It's probably the question. And then the final thing that 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.800 he gets into is college as liberal arts education and 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:35.760 college's jobs program are fundamentally incompatible goals. The way we 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.280 evaluate students has terrible incentives and isn't predictive anyway. The 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.960 learning done on colleges has a very weak relationship to 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.360 real world goals. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 You're there to. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.000 Network and meet people, notice it. Yeah, and you don't 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.160 learn a damn thing anyway. So then we can get 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.079 into how to stop kids from cheating or students from 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.200 cheating and this you want to come. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.240 Back and do that because I want to hear that. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.160 I would actually like to hear that the any any 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.160 any ideas or efforts, because I can't imagine what they 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:07.480 would be. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.240 Well, and your your excellent, excellent question about what does 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:13.400 it matter anyway? 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.520 Well, I'll answer that when we come back. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.200 Okay, Wow, my kids are headed out into a world 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.280 that I'm just we're all just guessing at as parents. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.280 Oh yeah, the people developing this stuff are guessing. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.920 Yeah. No, it's a good point. Okay, all that's on 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:31.280 the waist. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:38.000 He here, the Didny jury was just shown pictures of 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:44.000 when they broke into his house. Remember that guns, Ammo, stilettos, lube, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.240 and sex toys, among other things from his Miami Beach mansion. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.400 More on the Didny trial. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.240 Yes, uh so, a couple of articles we're gonna quote 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.600 here as we continue our discussion of AI and cheating 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.120 in schools, and ones from Tyler Cowen who wrote for 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.160 The Free everyone's using AI to cheat at school. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.360 That's a good thing. And he goes into the description of. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.679 The uproar over cheating and how one study suggests up 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.360 to ninety percent of college students have used chat GPT 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.120 to do their homework, and how the state of affairs 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.319 has set off a crisis among educators' parents and students. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.560 Blah blah blah. He says, I think this. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.800 Crisis is ultimately good news, and not just because I 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.760 believe American education was already in a profound crisis AMEN 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.320 the result of ideological capture, among other things. These models 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.360 are such great cheating AIGs because they are also such 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.120 great teachers. Often they are better than the human teachers 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.160 we put before our kids, and they're far cheaper at 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.600 that they will not unionize or attend pro Hamas protests, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:40.880 that's pretty good. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.080 Yeah, you know, that's funny. You mentioned that at the beginning. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.240 I'm way more worried about the wokeness in schools than 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.360 figuring out the AI cheating stuff. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.120 Yeah, and then. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:56.720 He he says a couple of interesting things. But if 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.640 the current AI can cheat effectively for you, the current 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.040 AI and also write better than you. In other words, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.080 our universities are not teaching our citizens sufficiently valuable skills. Rather, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.760 we are teaching them that that which can be cloned 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.800 at low cost. The AIS are already very good at 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.560 those tasks, and they will only get better at a 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.480 rapid pace. Whatever you think of the intrinsic merits of 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.240 the proposed solutions can are tougher on our code really work. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.280 They're missing the point. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.600 The trouble with all the remedies is that they implicitly 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.040 insist that we must do everything possible to keep wasteful 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.400 instruction in place. The current system is misleading students about 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.400 the skills they'll need to succeed in the future, and 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.800 providing all the wrong incentives and rankings of student quality. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.600 And then this goes on for a number of more. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:44.240 Paragraphs of really interesting philosophizing about you know, education and 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.680 work skills and the relationship there and the future and 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.440 technology and a bunch of different stuff. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.160 We'll post the link. You'll probably get paywalled. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.800 I don't know, steal somebody's password at Armstrong and getty 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.920 dot com under hotlinks. I'll send it to the crew 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.280 in a couple of seconds. But then I came across 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:02.720 this how we doing for time? 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:03.200 Pretty good? 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.720 John Goyette, who is a vice president dean emeritis of 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:15.360 Thomas Aquinas College, and he describes the situation similar fashion 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:19.520 as mister Cowan about how cheating is rampant. We're still 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.760 in the early stages of the AI era, but the 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.960 future of higher education looks bleak. Early research suggests what 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.680 educators know intuitively. AI assistants can boost students' short term performance, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.640 but it enervates long term meaning deadens long term comprehension, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.360 especially after the digital crutches are taken away. A student 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.600 who aiss a quiz without studying the material has learned nothing. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.160 The same is true. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.480 The same is true for a student who completes an 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:51.000 essay without performing research, contemplating the subject matter, refining and 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.960 ordering arguments, or painstakingly choosing the exact words to express 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.400 the right idea. These students fail not only to retain knowledge, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.720 but also to develop their capacities for creative and critical thinking. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.520 Even where AI usage doesn't cross obvious ethical lines, it 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:13.640 usually undermines learning. And his point is that when you 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.840 are learning a skill, you're not just learning the skill. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.320 When you learn to write, you're not just learning to write. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.120 You are developing and strengthening your brain in a way 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.440 that you will use for the rest of your life, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.440 no matter what tools are at your disposal. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.240 That's all interesting, and I'm not going to argue against that, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.000 but I am a nihilist on this AI stuff. Whatever. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.800 That's what people are going to do. That's what everybody's 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:47.480 gonna do. There's no stopping it. And what that leaves us, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:48.320 I don't know. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.400 Yeah, well, he says, just a finish. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.280 Collegies should institute a more personal and in person approach 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:54.920 to assessment. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.880 Good band take home exams. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.680 Yeah, the idea of you have to do anything style, Yeah, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.400 you have to write it in class. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.600 That might be, not might be it's the only way. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.680 And socratic discussion that sort of thing, Yeah, interesting, which 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.560 I like Anyway, where's the big beautiful bill? Man? 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.400 There have been some agreements overnight you might not. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.679 Like Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.600 There is nothing that Donald Trump cares more about getting 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.000 done at this point than passing this bill. And he's 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.800 willing to get up at eight thirty in the morning 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.760 and go to Capitol Hill to try and convince these 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.480 members to do so. They believe, again, this is his legacy. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.000 The economy is his legacy. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.920 We're going to give you a real time update and 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.000 where we are on the big beautiful bill that will 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:45.879 affect everyone's life today. And freaking whooping cough. So I 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.920 sing it down because my son has whooping cough. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.760 I said to the doctor, my son just got his 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:58.200 t DAP update like six months ago, and he said, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.240 did you know anybody who got the covid bat seene 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.280 who then got covid Ah. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.879 So it makes it much less likely that you'll. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:10.960 Get whooping cough or TETN, but it doesn't keep you 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.879 from getting it. We all have that or I've always 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.119 had that belief that a vaccine means I'm never going 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.960 to get it, but apparently that's not true. Anyho, back 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.240 to the Big Beautiful Bill. It affects every one of 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.200 us and our children probably, so it's a big deal. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.639 This is a member of the Freedom Couckers, who I 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.600 have at various times agreed with wholeheartedly. In various times 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.520 thought they were crazy hostage takers, but in this case 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.679 they're mostly just trying to keep the debt from exploding. Anyway, 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.360 here's the latest from one of their members. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.960 We are working within the goalposts you voted for. You 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.560 can I answer the question or you just want to 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:49.040 You want. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.440 To fill a us You can. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.800 Not accurate, You're not very we are. We are working. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.240 We're working within the goalposts. I'm not saying we need 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:02.680 to we need to move the. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.760 Amount of cuts up, because goodness knows, we moved them 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.639 ount of spending yesterday with the Salt agreement. We're saying, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.880 work within the goalposts. Rearrange it within the gold hosts. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.560 In accordance, we'll what the President wants. End waste frawden 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.840 abuse in medicaid, which is wasting dollars that should be 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.360 spent on the truly vulnerable, and then end as much 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.639 of the green new scam as possible, Right. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.840 Mister, Chet's a man called Andy Harris, So from the 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.760 Wall Street Journal. Let me set the table, as they 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.240 say in the table setting business. First, of all, the 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.000 Republicans have one of the slimmest majorities in the history 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.840 of our country. Speaker Johnson can afford to lose free, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.399 free Republican votes to pass what he wants to pass. Now, 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.600 in the olden times, which isn't that long ago, when 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.119 you passed a big, giant budget bill like this, you 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.400 had mostly people in your party, but a whole bunch 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.760 of people from the other party, And then you had 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.359 the fringes of both parties that were unhappy with it, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.800 the socialists on the left, like the fiscal arts on 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.720 the right, or whichever. But it was mostly your party 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.520 and a whole bunch of people. Now, no, only your 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.720 party votes for it and the other party votes for 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.960 it exclusively every time. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.600 And it used to be if you have a decent majority, 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.600 you could say, all right, eleven people in swing districts 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.480 who aren't going to like this very much, we'll take 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.280 your application for voting against this, and we won't hold 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.359 it against you. And thirteen people raise their hands, and 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.160 you say, all right, we can only take eleven york 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.359 it out in conference. But this majority is so slim. 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.440 Well got to have completed aherentes practically. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.520 Right, and then just this era of everybody from the 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.800 other party has to vote against it or you'd get 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.840 primary to lose. Right for everything is a dumb way 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.840 to run a country, But anyway, Wall Street Drummer rights broadly, 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.000 the proposal would boost spending on defense and border security, 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.880 reducing spending on medicaid and food assistance. Hiring tax cuts 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.080 would be extended permanently, so the Trump tax cuts of 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.800 twenty seventeen would become permanent under this, and the bill 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.000 would create new tax cuts that implement temporary versions of 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.520 Trump's plans to eliminate taxes on tips, overtime pay, and 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:19.960 social security benefits. The proposals projected to increase budget deficits 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:25.920 by nearly three trillion dollars through twenty thirty four. 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.760 Man I wish the Conservative Party had won the last 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:33.280 election the fiscally responsive responsible party. 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.240 The House Rules Committee started debating the bill at one 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:40.040 a m. The morning, trying to tee up the measure 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:41.800 for a full vote in the House because Johnson was 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.000 really hoping to get it voted on today. So they 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.040 started at one o'clock in the morning. They're in their 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.280 suits and ties and dresses and heels to get this 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.120