Speaker 1: Okay, who is sure only films to be buried with? Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a drum kit, and I love films. As
Speaker 1: Natalie Babbitt once said, like all magnificent things, it's all
Speaker 1: very simple. My Holland Driver is about destructive love for
Speaker 1: an ex. Yeah, I get it. Every week I own
Speaker 1: a special guest over. I tell them they've died, then
Speaker 1: I get them to discuss their life through the films
Speaker 1: that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins,
Speaker 1: Amber Ruffin, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even Bed Campbell's.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the brilliant comedian, writer, and a
Speaker 1: podcaster Sarah Barron. Head over to the Patreon at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get extra
Speaker 1: stuff for all the episodes, including a secret. You also
Speaker 1: get the whole thing uncut, adfree and does a video.
Speaker 1: Check it all out over at Patreon dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash break Goldstein. Sarah Baron is a brilliant comedian about
Speaker 1: to do her new show Anything for You at the
Speaker 1: Monkey Barrel at the Edinburgh Fringe every afternoon for the
Speaker 1: month of August. We recorded this very recently on zoom
Speaker 1: and we talked so much that we actually ran out
Speaker 1: of time, so I'm sorry for the short patron section.
Speaker 1: But we did as much as we could in the
Speaker 1: time that she had, which was a long time, but
Speaker 1: we just talked too much. But anyway, we got deep.
Speaker 1: It was really lovely and I really think you're going
Speaker 1: to love this one. I hope you're all well, that
Speaker 1: is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy
Speaker 1: episode three hundred and nine of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a successioneerer, a podcaster, a legend, a comedian,
Speaker 1: a live at the Apollo, a Brady, a feasta, an
Speaker 1: Edinburgh Fringe hero, a person, a wife, a human and
Speaker 1: a book writer at least. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Could you believe she's here? She really is? It's a barrage.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's only me, do you know? Do you know
Speaker 2: what I've Oh?
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't think I'm an actor. But then
Speaker 3: I did do one acting job. I majored in it, Brett.
Speaker 2: What but your your acting trajectory has gone very differently
Speaker 2: to mine.
Speaker 1: What was your one job?
Speaker 3: I got hired and I think it was and I
Speaker 3: think it qualifies as an acting job. Not a voiceover artist, John,
Speaker 3: But it was a it was a voiceover acting thing
Speaker 3: that was something about like it was a it was
Speaker 3: an advert for Wendy's in the UK.
Speaker 1: That's an acting job. Wow, that's an acting job.
Speaker 3: But it was supposed to sound it was supposed to
Speaker 3: be a spoof of like a true crime podcast. So
Speaker 3: I played a true crime podcast hosts audio only they
Speaker 3: were laughing so hard at me, Brett one time, and
Speaker 3: I did, well, no, I just want you to know
Speaker 3: that I you know, I got the chance, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she took it. What was the crime? This seems
Speaker 1: like such a risky advert for Wendy's. Was the crime?
Speaker 1: The burgers are too good?
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the pitch, you're it's burger murders. So
Speaker 3: the idea is stop murdering burgers like all the other
Speaker 3: places murder burgers, and Wendy's honors a burger. But then
Speaker 3: I think it turned out there was like a bunch
Speaker 3: of murders to do with burgers somehow, and so then.
Speaker 2: They had to like like rebrand the thing. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm getting paid for another day like
Speaker 2: the real I was like, oh, I think I just
Speaker 2: celebrated that people got murdered because I'm like, we have
Speaker 2: to do another day. Great, like another.
Speaker 1: Feat, another Wendy has been murdered. This is great for me.
Speaker 2: Another burger got murdered. So that was That was my
Speaker 2: one fora.
Speaker 1: Insane an insane idea for an advert. But I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: These things are so sorry. This is my problem.
Speaker 3: I have so many questions I want to ask for you,
Speaker 3: but I will accept that this is not the format.
Speaker 1: What was your question you would want to ask?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Too big.
Speaker 2: I think they were too big, you know. It wasn't
Speaker 2: like a small thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think I got to I got two big
Speaker 1: questions for you. When is you're about to do Edinburgh again? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For how show? What number show is this? So?
Speaker 2: This is number four? How many have you done? How
Speaker 2: many did you do?
Speaker 1: I did Edinburgh eleven times? I did within that time,
Speaker 1: you know, because I did sorts of compilationships and I
Speaker 1: did plays, but I did four hours in Edinburgh.
Speaker 2: I think, okay, this will be four for me and
Speaker 2: I you know, I always think if if I listened
Speaker 2: to someone talk about Edinburgh before I myself had participated
Speaker 2: in it, and people chocolate, it's this, it's this, it's heart,
Speaker 2: people go into debt, You'd be like, why is this
Speaker 2: so hard? Like it's a gorgeous city. You're working for
Speaker 2: an hour a day, you your you know, stand up
Speaker 2: is a job that can involve a lot of travel.
Speaker 2: You're not travel like your friends are around. What why
Speaker 2: isn't it kind of summer camp?
Speaker 3: And then what I say to people is, here's why
Speaker 3: it's not summer camp. Okay, I want you to imagine
Speaker 3: that for a month. We know, Brett, We're be honest.
Speaker 3: These are too emotionally astute people talking to each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, I bet.
Speaker 3: We're both so mach sure, so open. We know the lingo,
Speaker 3: we know what's going on. We therefore understand that two
Speaker 3: keys to mental health are Number one, perspective. Having perspective
Speaker 3: is the way you stay healthy in your brain. We
Speaker 3: also know that the road to ruin is comparison. You
Speaker 3: do well when you stay in your lane, baby, you
Speaker 3: do your thing.
Speaker 2: When you are up in Edinburgh, it is in incessant
Speaker 2: comparison married with a complete lack of perspective. And I
Speaker 2: say to my friends, imagine if for one month you
Speaker 2: had to hear every single thing that was set about
Speaker 2: you behind your back. Oh my god, that's what I
Speaker 2: kind of think it is.
Speaker 3: Or or confront the fact guess what no one's saying
Speaker 3: anything because no one gives a shit about you.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is.
Speaker 3: And you go up and you decide you're going to
Speaker 3: live to fight another day, and you sort of go
Speaker 3: up and you know you will know of course that
Speaker 3: like you usually you learn the story of what your
Speaker 3: Edinburgh would be across the first week and a half
Speaker 3: and then you kind of learn maybe like no good
Speaker 3: story here, and then for another two and a half
Speaker 3: weeks you kind of have to continue to do it.
Speaker 2: So that's why it's hard.
Speaker 3: And I like to always offer that up because before
Speaker 3: I as a stand up comic, and I listened to
Speaker 3: stand up comics like people with their fucking these people
Speaker 3: need to grow up their no no no, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: I have felt that myself but that is why it
Speaker 2: could be tough.
Speaker 1: The perspective thing I think is very astute in that
Speaker 1: it is like your sort of truck. It's probably the
Speaker 1: closest you get to being on Love Island or something,
Speaker 1: because there is no way of escaping it. So for
Speaker 1: you could just say, because I've fucking tried, I've tried.
Speaker 1: I'll go to the gym every day, I'll go for
Speaker 1: a swim. I'm going to go. I'm going to leave,
Speaker 1: going to walk outside of the festival and be in
Speaker 1: the real world. It doesn't exist. You can't escape it.
Speaker 1: You're in this bubble where it's quite a big bubb
Speaker 1: it's quite hard to leave that bubble. You can't.
Speaker 2: There is trying, there's physically no And you will say
Speaker 2: I will say, like, I don't need any convincing to
Speaker 2: not read reviews.
Speaker 3: I have never read a review of myself in my life.
Speaker 3: I never will and now you don't have to convince me.
Speaker 3: I don't read reviews of other comics.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's it violates that, Like I I
Speaker 2: it feels really disgusting if I do that, And so
Speaker 2: that's easy for me. But then I'll also be like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to really try and stay off social media.
Speaker 2: So when I feel the little itch, don't do it,
Speaker 2: go here. You'll bring up these books.
Speaker 3: But even if you do all that, you still have
Speaker 3: to walk down the road and there's some person who's
Speaker 3: one of your triggers, and they're getting eight stars left
Speaker 3: and right, and you think, number one, you're a bad person.
Speaker 3: Number two, you're a mediocre common you know, you just
Speaker 3: and then you're thinking, but what do I care? Why
Speaker 3: does that care? I added, you know, it's all this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Did you ever read the Bruce Springsteen
Speaker 3: autobiography Born to Run?
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say we know each other
Speaker 3: a bit. Yes, yeah, we don't hang out one on one,
Speaker 3: but we run. We read it before, you know, you
Speaker 3: were always away doing things.
Speaker 2: I think we know each other a bit. I think
Speaker 2: I do know. You all have to know that. I
Speaker 2: think you would absolutely love his book.
Speaker 1: Oh I love I am sure I would. I'm going
Speaker 1: to write it down right.
Speaker 2: Now, write it down, baby, We all love Springsteen. Come on.
Speaker 2: But it is an extraordinary.
Speaker 3: Tone about I hate to say this, I hear myself
Speaker 3: as I say it, about art and about being someone
Speaker 3: who's trying to make something, and about getting older and
Speaker 3: making things, and you know, he talks about like these
Speaker 3: sort of mental jiu jitsu games you play to convince
Speaker 3: yourself that this time will be different, that I can
Speaker 3: do it, I can, you know whatever, And it's really anyway.
Speaker 2: I think you'd love it, and I think you should
Speaker 2: read it.
Speaker 1: I would say this about Edinburgh. It's funny. You're right.
Speaker 1: I hadn't sort of put it in that context, but like, yes,
Speaker 1: it sounds insane, as in, it sounds anyone complaining about Edinburgh,
Speaker 1: Like what a fuck you complain about you? You went
Speaker 1: to an arts festival for a month, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, it sounds insane, and I do think
Speaker 1: it's incredibly It's a really hard cyclogy. The performance part
Speaker 1: of it is the easiest part of it, and that's hard. However,
Speaker 1: my point is this, I think I really mean this.
Speaker 1: I think Edinburgh taught me everything I needed to navigate
Speaker 1: the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Generally think tell me more, tell me more, tell me more,
Speaker 2: Tommy more.
Speaker 1: Like. Weirdly, I hate to compare these and I'm always
Speaker 1: I'm wired that people will be like, it's not of course,
Speaker 1: it's not the same. I've interviewed two three people on
Speaker 1: this podcast who did SNL, who then went on to
Speaker 1: do other things, run their own shows, have their own things,
Speaker 1: and all of them said, I said, it's so hard
Speaker 1: running your own show, being a showrunner, being this, being that.
Speaker 1: How do you copeable? And all of them said, it's
Speaker 1: easier than SNL. SNL was so hard and such a
Speaker 1: sort of emotional training, but it hardened them that anything
Speaker 1: else was easier. And I feel that way about Edinburgh.
Speaker 1: I go, all this stuff I've done since Edinburgh is
Speaker 1: the same, the skill set I learned of navigating people,
Speaker 1: of navigating egos, of navigating in the madness of industry,
Speaker 1: all of that. Edinburgh is such a condensed version of
Speaker 1: it that you go anywhere else it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know how all this works. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: God, that's fascinating. That is a fascinating thing to hear
Speaker 2: and inspiring to hear.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I think about you. I think you
Speaker 3: have unbelievable focus.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you exactly what I mean by that,
Speaker 2: because I don't mean I have no way of knowing
Speaker 2: if you go I've got to write this script today.
Speaker 3: And Brett sits down and he writes that script and
Speaker 3: you have some kind of hyper focused thing and you
Speaker 3: can get I don't know that I mean that. What
Speaker 3: I mean is I think a lot of comedians and
Speaker 3: maybe actors too, like jobbing artists.
Speaker 2: We want a distraction. I want shit to take me
Speaker 2: away from what I would love to work on. This joke,
Speaker 2: but someone needs to talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get And I think you are some kind
Speaker 3: of like zen master.
Speaker 2: Where you I don't even mean workaholic, although you're because
Speaker 2: of some of the success you've had. I'm very interesting
Speaker 2: whether or not you are a workaholic, because I think
Speaker 2: you kind of have to be.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, definitely you're not looking for a
Speaker 3: reason for a lunch.
Speaker 1: That's very funny.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean that? Right about you?
Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm very easily distracted and I procrastinate and
Speaker 1: part of but I have made peace. One thing I've
Speaker 1: learned is procrastination is part of the job. You have
Speaker 1: to accept. Like the bit where you where you go,
Speaker 1: we should go and get a coffee, we should go
Speaker 1: get lunch. That is actually going to inform your writing,
Speaker 1: like you have to make peace with it. Isn't sitting
Speaker 1: for eight hour solid staring at your screen. That is
Speaker 1: not no job. Sometimes the job is pacing around, fucking
Speaker 1: going a fuck a fuck fuck yeah, talking and talking.
Speaker 1: But when it's happening, when you do get down to
Speaker 1: it and it's happening, I fucking love it. So that's
Speaker 1: the I love it. And I'm running from life, you know,
Speaker 1: that's the secret in it. I would rather back in
Speaker 1: the forth, the back and the forth. How much are
Speaker 1: you just stand up tour recently? Didn't you? Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: still doing it.
Speaker 3: How are you finding it being back after getting famous
Speaker 3: on television?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm curious about.
Speaker 1: Oh well, look, I mean the really incredible difference is
Speaker 1: that people currently want to come and see. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: The difference is seventeen years to one hundred people and
Speaker 1: now yeah, more people want to come, and that is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's really really, I genuinely do not for a second
Speaker 1: take it for granted. Like I'm like every night, I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: this is like I moved. I find it. You're moved.
Speaker 1: I find it moving. No, I moved.
Speaker 2: I moved speaking to you, I moved to you. It's moving.
Speaker 1: You know. I've got babysitter fucking got their cars, came
Speaker 1: out like that's amazing, amazing, they're excited, but then it
Speaker 1: does Also the flip side is then I, well, I
Speaker 1: guess I always would have done this, but like then
Speaker 1: you really fucking care about putting on a good shows,
Speaker 1: Like there's better to be fucking good. People have come out,
Speaker 1: they spend a lot of money that they hear, they've
Speaker 1: got their drinks, they've come in with their friends. You know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's been great. I've really loved it, and I feel very,
Speaker 1: very very lucky.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I accept I accept that answer. He feels
Speaker 2: gratitude everyone. He's great for everything.
Speaker 1: Look, I'll tell you this, but then I feel embarrasseding
Speaker 1: this because it's asking.
Speaker 2: I want to know you've been on an interesting journey
Speaker 2: and it's and I love talking to people about that stuff.
Speaker 3: I think it's really fascinating. And I will just say
Speaker 3: really quickly, but are you going to hold your thing?
Speaker 2: Because don't not say. The thing is that I don't
Speaker 2: like when people who have gotten very successful after working
Speaker 2: their fine asses off, and it's like, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's fucking fascinating.
Speaker 3: Like four years ago, you could walk down the street
Speaker 3: and now you kind of yet in the same way,
Speaker 3: and that's a very rare experience. So I think it's
Speaker 3: interesting and I like to know the feelings.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's all complicated and there's lots of
Speaker 1: things that are very bad about it, but the tour
Speaker 1: is the tours has been amazing. And what I will
Speaker 1: say is there was a day, maybe it was in
Speaker 1: Houston and we did this show and normally there's like
Speaker 1: a you know, there's a back door to get in
Speaker 1: and out of the venue and it's sort of a
Speaker 1: different area of the place, like a little street. But
Speaker 1: in this case, when we finished the show, we got
Speaker 1: in the car and the car had to basically just
Speaker 1: go around the front of the venue and be in
Speaker 1: the parking lot where the audience were. So we then
Speaker 1: had to like sit in a queue for about half
Speaker 1: an hour just to get out of the venue with
Speaker 1: the audience. And it really I found it so moving.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, Like it hadn't occurred to me
Speaker 1: people fucking sit in a car and queue to come
Speaker 1: to this thing, you know what I mean, Like this
Speaker 1: is a big deal. People making such a fucking effort.
Speaker 1: It isn't like, yeah, we just pop and see this thing.
Speaker 1: It's like babysit a car queue, parking lot, parking ticket,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's such a big
Speaker 1: commitment on their part. I was genuinely sort of I
Speaker 1: just couldn't, you know, I really appreciate it. I really
Speaker 1: was like, fuck this.
Speaker 2: I think it reflects very well on you that getting
Speaker 2: stuck in a que made you feel gratitude.
Speaker 1: I should have wound that way.
Speaker 2: Get me out of here. That's very good. That's very good.
Speaker 1: So that's very nice. But you know, and also, but
Speaker 1: I have the feeling of like, who knows, who knows
Speaker 1: how how how long people may or may not want
Speaker 1: to buy tickets, you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: making the most of it. But it's very fine. It's
Speaker 1: and it's an interesting sort of experience I've learned. It's different.
Speaker 1: It's different doing stand up in a big venue with
Speaker 1: a big stage audience. You've sort of physically it forces
Speaker 1: you to change. I'm now much more physical than I
Speaker 1: used to be. I used to just sort of stand.
Speaker 1: Don't now and move about and I do. You have
Speaker 1: to big act outs and it's kind of it's a
Speaker 1: new skill and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a journey. He's on his journey.
Speaker 1: How did you write a fourth show? Did you have
Speaker 1: the theme first or the jokes? What was it? Did
Speaker 1: you have a big idea?
Speaker 3: I had a thing happened tell me. I'm going to
Speaker 3: tell you. It's going to spoil the surprise of the show,
Speaker 3: but I think for your listeners perhaps it will intrigue them.
Speaker 3: So I'm making a marketing choice in real time to
Speaker 3: share my secret. So basically, two years ago, I got
Speaker 3: a call from my brother informing me that my entire
Speaker 3: family was fine after fleeing from a mass shooting.
Speaker 2: Okay, stay with me.
Speaker 3: So he's like telling me this story, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait what, wait what what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: It was a Fourth of July parade that they have
Speaker 2: gone to every year since I'd been born. I grew
Speaker 2: up going to this parade and like an active shooter
Speaker 2: open fire at this parade. Right, She's like telling.
Speaker 3: Me this story, and the long and short of it
Speaker 3: is like, so he had to leave my parents there.
Speaker 3: He had to like literally pick up his kids and run.
Speaker 3: He left my parents to die. Fine, he has to
Speaker 3: make his choices. So he's then like he had to
Speaker 3: spend about fifteen minutes, thinking that my parents had been
Speaker 3: killed possibly.
Speaker 2: Then they show up. Everyone's fine, everyone's fine. And then
Speaker 2: basically what was funny. What was funny to me was
Speaker 2: as he was like telling me this story, and I
Speaker 2: was like, wait, I you know, my mother started knocking
Speaker 2: out the door and she's like, good eye, con did
Speaker 2: you talk to my daughter?
Speaker 3: And my brother was like looking down the FaceTime call
Speaker 3: like Jesus fucking Christ. And then they leaned into the
Speaker 3: camera and he goes, I wish i'd shut her in
Speaker 3: the back myself.
Speaker 2: And it was so funny. I was like he legit
Speaker 2: thought she would be dead fifteen minutes ago, and she
Speaker 2: had been so annoying across fifteen minutes that he's now
Speaker 2: making a joke about wishing each shot her.
Speaker 3: And I was like that is And for years people
Speaker 3: have said to me, do you do stuff about your
Speaker 3: mom and your stand up?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, I can never figure out what
Speaker 2: it is. I don't like, no, I don't, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, And I was like, oh, because what's a show
Speaker 3: about your mom that isn't just like my mom did
Speaker 3: one thing, she did a second thing, she did a
Speaker 3: third And I was like, that's the show about my mom.
Speaker 3: It like that's either a big finale or an inciting
Speaker 3: incident to investigate my rage at my crazy fucking mom,
Speaker 3: you know, and people are like, oh, I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: my mom's good, she's a good lady, but she's fucking psychotic.
Speaker 1: So is the inciting incidant at the beginning and then
Speaker 1: you go back or is it the end?
Speaker 3: Well, as a man who I assume is interested in structure,
Speaker 3: it's been all over the place.
Speaker 2: At first, I was like, it's.
Speaker 3: An end, and then it was not working, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's an inciting incident.
Speaker 2: It's an exciting it starts it. So then it was
Speaker 2: at the beginning.
Speaker 3: It was at the beginning, and then I was like, no,
Speaker 3: it is the end. So that's a long winded way
Speaker 3: of saying I have been on a long road to
Speaker 3: understanding it is.
Speaker 2: It is the end.
Speaker 3: And the inciting incident is my husband accusing me of
Speaker 3: being like her.
Speaker 1: That's great, Okay, that's good. That's interesting. My head went
Speaker 1: through the structure the ways and I was like, the
Speaker 1: downside of it being at the beginning's great because it's exciting.
Speaker 1: The downside is will we laugh at anything? If we
Speaker 1: think your mom has been in a mess, it might
Speaker 1: FuG you for an hour.
Speaker 3: Well, all I will say is this is what we have.
Speaker 3: I have never I have never had to work something
Speaker 3: so hard structurally, and I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I think I'm there a baby. I think if I
Speaker 2: tighten a few screws, I think we're there. But I
Speaker 2: am so in my head and I think to.
Speaker 3: Lure people in, I'll say I think I'm performing quite
Speaker 3: poorly at the moment.
Speaker 2: I think I'm just a lady on stage being yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, tickets coming by. I'll be great as
Speaker 3: I try to remember the lines. But you know, I
Speaker 3: hope I get it there. I just got to, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll get it there. Come see it after the seventh.
Speaker 3: I'll come see you.
Speaker 2: After the seventh. So that's it. Where is it on
Speaker 2: Monkey Barrel every day at four forty five?
Speaker 1: Oh? Perfect?
Speaker 2: This is what everyone's saying. But you know, I do very,
Speaker 2: very as all or most humans. Isn't expectation everything in
Speaker 2: the world Brett and I I need to manage mine
Speaker 2: because everyone goes Monkey Barrel. Hello, it's the coolest of
Speaker 2: the venues. Monkey Barrel at four forty five oh and
Speaker 2: so I'm expecting and it's like you were saying, for
Speaker 2: seventeen years you played to one hundred people.
Speaker 3: Well you were like in that world, I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: like mostly pre pandemic.
Speaker 2: I think you know you did. You logged most of
Speaker 2: your ten thousand hours pre pandemic. Whatever. The world has changed.
Speaker 3: So I'm now like year you know, I'm year five
Speaker 3: into plan forty people and give me one hundred and forty,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I'm a little scarred
Speaker 3: by small numbers and being like like I had this
Speaker 3: in my.
Speaker 1: Last show, the record when I say seventeen years of
Speaker 1: one hundred people, I mean forty. Yeah, okay, American exaggerator.
Speaker 2: But they were getting to you, baby, They're getting to you.
Speaker 1: He's gotten probably.
Speaker 2: You know, I will call it you. Yeah, there are
Speaker 2: four people in. But I had worked up like my
Speaker 2: favorite part of my show was what I thought was
Speaker 2: a very funny marital blow jobs kind of bit, and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is fucking good.
Speaker 3: I've not heard anyone say it. It's a good observation.
Speaker 3: It's like disgusting.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have any big crowds. I was like,
Speaker 2: but you because I can't be looking.
Speaker 3: I can't be making eye contact when there are thirty
Speaker 3: people in at a preview with some lady who's come
Speaker 3: with her twenty year old daughter who liked me and
Speaker 3: then brought her fifty five year old mom. And then
Speaker 3: I'm looking at them while I'm like blowjobs. And I
Speaker 3: was like, but let me just let me just get
Speaker 3: it up to Edinburgh. Let me just get it up there,
Speaker 3: because then let's cook with some gas bitches.
Speaker 2: And then I got up there and it was like
Speaker 2: there was no and I'd worked so hard on something,
Speaker 2: I was so and I would like do my blow
Speaker 2: job and they get off stage and cry, because I
Speaker 2: was like, then what are we What are we doing
Speaker 2: anymore if we can't say this to a room that
Speaker 2: can cohese as a room and feel the darkness and
Speaker 2: feel the anonymity and work as a unit and respond
Speaker 2: how they're supposed to my married blowjob lady stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: but positive attitude. It's a new year, it's a new time,
Speaker 2: it's a new venue. Only onwards and upwards, Brett, Okay,
Speaker 2: onwards and upwards.
Speaker 1: And you're feeling good. The other well, the other big
Speaker 1: question I had to ask you, I guess applies to
Speaker 1: all of what you have said, which is you, If
Speaker 1: we may speak about this openly, I believe you have
Speaker 1: are married to Jeff Lloyd, who is a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful,
Speaker 1: lovely man and also a public figure in some ways.
Speaker 1: And you two do things together, and you talk about
Speaker 1: each other in your in your public life, and you
Speaker 1: are now doing a show where you talk about your
Speaker 1: mum and your brother and stuff. And I wondered, how
Speaker 1: if any difficulty there is in sort of privacy, and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, like you have any
Speaker 1: like is your mum going to see your shows? It's
Speaker 1: something you've talked about with her. There's stuff between you
Speaker 1: and Jeff where you're like, let's not there's a limit
Speaker 1: like this is this is the boundary where we lie.
Speaker 2: It is on the wrong side line.
Speaker 3: So it's sort of it's very different with those two people,
Speaker 3: my mom and Jeff. And then also exactly the same.
Speaker 3: So so to everyone's credit, like my mom irritates the
Speaker 3: shit out of me, and I don't like when people
Speaker 3: are really glowing about their mothers. It gives me the X.
Speaker 3: I don't like that my mommy, Oh shut up, So
Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable saying nice things about her.
Speaker 2: But a thing I will say is my mom's taste
Speaker 2: is pretty extraordinary. So like something will be like this
Speaker 2: will be the new thing or this, and my mom
Speaker 2: will watch it and be like am I going crazy?
Speaker 2: Or was this terrible?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, it's it's terrible most people as
Speaker 3: a snob, most people don't have the taste to know
Speaker 3: it's fucking bad. But yeah, Mom, that's bad, and you're
Speaker 3: smart enough that you know that's bad. So that is
Speaker 3: all to say, I can get away with anything in
Speaker 3: front of my mother or my husband if it's good.
Speaker 2: And I know that's such a snotty little bit she
Speaker 2: little eh eh way to describe it, but that's the truth.
Speaker 2: So I'm working on.
Speaker 3: This bit right now about I never love this as
Speaker 3: a pitch for it, but but but as a you know,
Speaker 3: it's about why I think a lot of women sort
Speaker 3: of hate their husbands. And I don't really mean hate,
Speaker 3: but I think that the you know, to be really
Speaker 3: binary about gendered and very heteronormative about stuff. Most married
Speaker 3: straight women I know are really exhausted by their husbands
Speaker 3: in ways that I don't think husbands are exhausted by
Speaker 3: their wives.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, real broad strokes here, obviously.
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking about the ten ladies that I know,
Speaker 3: including myself.
Speaker 1: You're more exhausted by Jeff than Jeff is by.
Speaker 2: You one hundred percent now and he knows that, and
Speaker 2: we and and so I so I said to him.
Speaker 2: But also like Jeff and I will you want the diagnosis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Why does Jeff because he's more
Speaker 1: laid back, Like what's the difference?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Jeff is not fucking more late.
Speaker 3: But like we will say to each other, the problem
Speaker 3: with our marriage, there's not a lay back individual in
Speaker 3: this household. Okay, both of us are like, you'll look
Speaker 3: at us wrong, and we're like that hurt me.
Speaker 2: I'm hurt both of us, fucking constant, so with Jeff.
Speaker 2: And also like Jeff helps me with my work.
Speaker 3: Like when Jeff and I got together, he was very
Speaker 3: successful and I wasn't. And any little bit of progress.
Speaker 2: That has happened professionally is one hundred percent because I
Speaker 2: married him. It just is like his taste level is good,
Speaker 2: he's on the like he's just good, and so he'll go, no,
Speaker 2: that doesn't work. Why because is this a good idea? No,
Speaker 2: that's shitty. Everything is better with him. He helps me
Speaker 2: with everything, so of course, and I help him with nothing.
Speaker 2: I yeah, so in that way, like professionally I exhaust him,
Speaker 2: but I'm not. I'm talking about a core at the
Speaker 2: fucking core.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, what is this?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: What is this? And what it is?
Speaker 3: And this is circling back to the question that you
Speaker 3: asked me, which is like, basically, I think that we
Speaker 3: all have our emotional loads and I break mine off. Okay,
Speaker 3: so my friend Becky is going to deal with this,
Speaker 3: my friend Maggie is going to deal with this. A
Speaker 3: local mom who I see a drop off.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, oh fucking am I allowed to say,
Speaker 2: my fucking I'm gonna here one for you, one for you,
Speaker 2: take my trauma, one for you, take my trauma. Jeff goes,
Speaker 2: here's all my trauma. Oh honey, do you want to
Speaker 2: share it with your best friend?
Speaker 3: You know, the guy who you love who's very open
Speaker 3: to talking about your trauma. Do you want to share
Speaker 3: with him? You want to get him on on this?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, You'll go out with him for.
Speaker 3: A four hour dinner, you guys can talk about like
Speaker 3: comics and films and music.
Speaker 2: Come home. Oh, but all my bullshit on my wife.
Speaker 2: And so I'm trying to do a bit about this, right,
Speaker 2: And then there's like a punchline about like his favorite
Speaker 2: position is feel you know, it's like a sex shock. Whatever,
Speaker 2: thank you, it didn't go down great and Faversham last night.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. But with that, so when
Speaker 2: you're saying, what are the lines with Jeff, Jeff all
Speaker 2: this shit, his mental health stuff is go to town.
Speaker 2: He will let me say whatever.
Speaker 3: But what I could feel in a room was like
Speaker 3: I have to stay on the right side of the
Speaker 3: line with talking about what a piece not even a
Speaker 3: piece of shit, but like it's it is about his
Speaker 3: vulnerability in some way, right, right, So it's.
Speaker 2: Not about what Jeff says, because he's pretty loose. If
Speaker 2: it's good and if it's working, it's about like, if
Speaker 2: it works, my husband's like that. Yes, men are like that.
Speaker 2: I've not quite Yes, that's why I'm fucking tired.
Speaker 3: But if I get on the other side of the line,
Speaker 3: it's like, ooh that that woman was like a little
Speaker 3: nasty about her husband in a way that made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with my mom.
Speaker 3: She kind of like she knows the show is happening
Speaker 3: because I need something from her for a little flourish
Speaker 3: at the end.
Speaker 1: And that was an excruciating how did you pitch it?
Speaker 1: You much? Did you say? I wonder about his shirt
Speaker 1: about you?
Speaker 3: I so, I've had this idea for a while and
Speaker 3: I was like, but I'm not gonna like, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna be go time until it's go time. So she
Speaker 3: was here a few weeks ago and I said to Jeff,
Speaker 3: I was like, I got to talk to my mom
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Jeff is really good with her, Like
Speaker 2: he speaks her language in some ways, and like if
Speaker 2: she's making me go crazy, he can get in and
Speaker 2: be like, I think your mom actually feels like, you know,
Speaker 2: we can sort of mediate between us. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about something. Everyone's healthy,
Speaker 2: nothing's bad. I'm not angry at you, which is like
Speaker 2: what she needs to know is like is anyone dying
Speaker 2: or are you going to stop speaking to me? These
Speaker 2: are her questions.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so, I'm working on the show
Speaker 3: and it's kind of about our relationship, and you know,
Speaker 3: so first people are very flatter, and then it's like,
Speaker 3: do you remember when you were in a mass shooting?
Speaker 3: So like there's actually something like a little bit funny.
Speaker 3: I thought, in the you're the shooting, you know, and
Speaker 3: then we're sort of you know, and she was like,
Speaker 3: is it mean? And I said, well, you know, and
Speaker 3: my thing was like, look, I don't wanna I don't
Speaker 3: want to not be honest with you. What I will
Speaker 3: say is it has to work, so it kind of
Speaker 3: can't be mean or it doesn't work. But you know,
Speaker 3: if you saw it, I'm sure you'd be shouting at
Speaker 3: the stage about what an unfair, one sided presentation. It
Speaker 3: is of a million different you know, little bits and
Speaker 3: pieces of like not even my relationship with her, but
Speaker 3: like stuff with her and my dad, and you know,
Speaker 3: she's like a real bully to him, and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to make that fun, you know, which is like an
Speaker 3: ARC type of like the domineering wife and the meek
Speaker 3: little husband.
Speaker 2: And so we'll see.
Speaker 1: And what did she say when you when you said this,
Speaker 1: it was she.
Speaker 2: You know, she weir?
Speaker 1: Did I mean?
Speaker 2: It was an hour long? I got so tired. I
Speaker 2: had to lie down, Like I was so emotionally exhausted,
Speaker 2: I had to like lay down on the sofa, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm really sorry at your being incredible,
Speaker 2: I said to my mom. I was like, you're being
Speaker 2: really patient. I think there's a real generosity. You're not
Speaker 2: doing anything wrong, you're not asking any but I am
Speaker 2: physically so tired by this. I just I literally need
Speaker 2: to like like like calm for a second, you know.
Speaker 2: So her big takeaway was that she felt connected to me.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I think, like I think that I can find talking
Speaker 2: to my mom about stuff like I talked to my mom, But.
Speaker 3: If I had a crisis in my marriage or I
Speaker 3: wouldn't go, I wouldn't go to her.
Speaker 2: And I think that makes her really sad. I talked
Speaker 2: to her. I love her. I think she's a fantastic
Speaker 2: person and a you know, she's.
Speaker 3: Great, but that's not like the dynamic we've wound up with,
Speaker 3: and I think that's hurtful for her. And so I
Speaker 3: think whenever like we're really talking, I think she feels
Speaker 3: really close to me and that brings her joy.
Speaker 2: So that's I think the big sort of arc we
Speaker 2: went on across like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: That's very nice. That's very nice. You know something that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe you notice you probably do because you're into this
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. David Chase when he wrote The Sopranos,
Speaker 1: have you seen the Sopranos you're a scribe?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, yeah, many many times.
Speaker 1: So Livia his mum. Tony Sprano's mom is David Chase's mum.
Speaker 1: And he was worried when he wrote it. He was like, God,
Speaker 1: my mum is such a fucking nightmare, such a monster,
Speaker 1: and I've put her on screen and it's going to
Speaker 1: destroy her and everyone's gonna And he almost thought it
Speaker 1: would be the reason people wouldn't like the show is
Speaker 1: the Mum's unbearable, and he said, And season one came
Speaker 1: out and hundreds of people came out to him and said,
Speaker 1: Livia's the funniest character. I love her. So I love
Speaker 1: the mom. I love the mom.
Speaker 2: And he was like, what, And moms are horrible? And
Speaker 2: I think and I say that as one and I
Speaker 2: think that you know, a point I'm trying to arrive
Speaker 2: at by the end is it's kind the kind of
Speaker 2: the job, you know, Like I have zero and I
Speaker 2: mean zero envy and I'm.
Speaker 3: An envious person. I get jealous easy. I don't like
Speaker 3: it in myself. It's a journey I'm working on that.
Speaker 2: I have zero jealousy of people who just delight in
Speaker 2: their moms, because I think they were raised to delight
Speaker 2: in their moms, and that's a weakness in the mom.
Speaker 3: There's like a cell guy, I can go on, I
Speaker 3: can go on, I can go on. And my mother
Speaker 3: is also really fucking selfish. I'm not saying, you know,
Speaker 3: but I just I never go, God, you and your
Speaker 3: mom have a beautiful thing. No, I go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got a beautiful thing with your mom. But that's
Speaker 3: because she and your dad have this shit going on.
Speaker 3: So the men that you selected, Da Da da luda,
Speaker 3: it's like this.
Speaker 2: You know, crazy moms are fine and it's good to
Speaker 2: talk about them, is my feeling, Sarah.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about forty minutes and I've forgotten to
Speaker 1: tell you something, and it's fucking bad.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I haven't that. I haven't brought this up.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Now we've been I should just say it. You well,
Speaker 1: I say it. You've died. You're dead, see you have
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 2: I'm dead is my mother already dead.
Speaker 1: It's up to you.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, we don't want me. She doesn't want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm dead and so yeah, fine, how did
Speaker 1: you die?
Speaker 2: I died? I thought about this so many times, and
Speaker 2: not just in advance of this podcast. I died by
Speaker 2: beautiful lake in America. Growing up, there was something. I mean,
Speaker 2: it probably is still there. But there's country time lemonade.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about country time lemonade.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Brett. Picture the nineteen eighties in America. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: like your suburban girl and your life looks like the
Speaker 2: movies because you grew up around where all the John
Speaker 2: Hughes films were made. And yet, okay, so things are
Speaker 2: leafy green, and you're New Lake, Michigan, and it's very idyllic,
Speaker 2: and you're near near a beautiful lake. I've got like
Speaker 2: a nice glass of lemonade.
Speaker 3: And my son and his family have been like, we're
Speaker 3: just gonna let grandma wants to sit in the sun
Speaker 3: while my grandchildren, my great grandchildren play around me while
Speaker 3: I'm at the lake. And I've not been well, but
Speaker 3: I've kept my nagging and then suddenly I breathe my
Speaker 3: last gone forever?
Speaker 1: But what sorry, what happened? Why did you breathe last?
Speaker 1: I must have happened.
Speaker 3: I had a heart attack, but not like a bad one,
Speaker 3: like yeah, but but now like a puky nummy one,
Speaker 3: just like I feel a little. Oh, I feel weird,
Speaker 3: cabooche out.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you worry about death? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I'm really afraid of death. I have a friend who
Speaker 3: is forty five does and have kids.
Speaker 2: She really and you know that sort of anyway, She's
Speaker 2: very fixated on the idea that no one will watch
Speaker 2: her die. And she lives in the States, where you
Speaker 2: have to think about this stuff a little bit differently.
Speaker 2: And she she was part of a class action suit
Speaker 2: that paid her a million pounds and she's put it
Speaker 2: all in the bank to pay for like the best
Speaker 2: possible care from when she's like eighty onwards.
Speaker 3: And I cannot stop thinking about that level of advance planning.
Speaker 3: She told me this like a month ago, and it's
Speaker 3: I think about it every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's very smart. I'm with a completely
Speaker 1: about the not having seen around.
Speaker 2: You know what, I think. I was walking to a
Speaker 2: gig and I walked past.
Speaker 3: I've never like I don't mean watched someone die, like
Speaker 3: sat with someone while they took their last breath. I
Speaker 3: haven't done that. But I also haven't watched someone deteriorate. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've never ever had to do that.
Speaker 2: I was walking, I like took a wrong turn getting
Speaker 2: to a gig and suddenly sort of realized I was
Speaker 2: like walking past an old person's home, and I saw
Speaker 2: an old woman watching television and it was like, like
Speaker 2: I once heard someone giving birth sound without I mean,
Speaker 2: I've given birth, but it's different when you're in it.
Speaker 2: It sounds real different to how it sounds in the films,
Speaker 2: like and I was like, I can't believe, like it's
Speaker 2: horrifying to listen to. And it was the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we know what it looks like.
Speaker 3: I've never really just seen a real old person really
Speaker 3: really really alone. And I thought it's inevitable, best case scenario,
Speaker 3: because maybe you're gonna die of cancer when you're sixty five.
Speaker 2: You're thinking, oh god, when I'm oh, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: that you know, you don't know. But but I thought
Speaker 2: that's she's probably ninety six, and it doesn't I tell myself, like,
Speaker 2: does it matter? By then? If you have kids or not,
Speaker 2: like because if you do, they're not going to be
Speaker 2: with you all the time. Then you're just it's that
Speaker 2: no matter what.
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's just a joyful little thing that I like
Speaker 3: to let circle around in my head. And it's been
Speaker 3: in there more since my friend told me that she
Speaker 3: won a million dollar class action lawsuit and was putting
Speaker 3: it all aside to keep her death nice.
Speaker 1: Imagine, what do you think happens after you die?
Speaker 3: I think we're gone. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 3: the end. I really want to hear a ghost story
Speaker 3: that I can believe.
Speaker 4: So that I go.
Speaker 2: But I think there was nothing happening before you were here,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing happening after you go, and you live
Speaker 2: on in people's hearts and you try to, you know,
Speaker 2: have love and sweetness and accountability.
Speaker 1: And then the end. Well, I got news for you, Sarah,
Speaker 1: Okay Brett. There's a heaven, you fool.
Speaker 2: There's a heaven, and I'm in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in it, and and they're very happy to you,
Speaker 1: and it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 2: Oh, my favorite thing is like laughter.
Speaker 1: It is a crazy house people laughing hysterically all the
Speaker 1: time in a way that becomes quite disturbing. But RAA's laughing, loving, laughing.
Speaker 1: You come in, They're all excited to see you. They
Speaker 1: wonn't know about your life, but they wonn't know about
Speaker 1: your life through film. Yes, And they first thing they
Speaker 1: ask you, what is the film you first remember seeing?
Speaker 1: Sarah Barrions The.
Speaker 2: Film I first remember seeing is a chorus line. The
Speaker 2: version that came out I'm going to call it eighty
Speaker 2: four eighty five, starring Michael Douglas, the only name in
Speaker 2: the film in the role of Zack.
Speaker 3: The director. And my mother took me to see it
Speaker 3: at Old Orchard Cinema. And you know, I will assume
Speaker 3: you haven't seen the film.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: I have seen a chorus line?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you might remember.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you've, like me, seen
Speaker 3: it probably forty seven times, but you know it opens
Speaker 3: on the streets.
Speaker 2: Of New York and they're bustling, they're hustling the dance bag,
Speaker 2: you know, And I thought, I mean, I just did
Speaker 2: that for you.
Speaker 3: I gave myself shills and I looked at that when
Speaker 3: I was five years old or six years old and
Speaker 3: I went, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what that is, but gimme a piece of
Speaker 2: the action.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm forty five years old, and I
Speaker 3: still feel exactly the same way, like whatever that is,
Speaker 3: there is no greater pinnacle, there is no more intense
Speaker 3: center of the TUTSI pop.
Speaker 2: Like it is it?
Speaker 1: What I Did for Love is one of the great,
Speaker 1: great great songs about anything. It's great.
Speaker 2: What did you do for the art that you love? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: You know, it hasn't aged particularly well, but you know,
Speaker 2: Or what I actually learned is like people hated the
Speaker 2: film and thought it was this like real butchering of
Speaker 2: the Broadway show.
Speaker 1: But I just think it's like, it's about sweet that
Speaker 1: your mom took you.
Speaker 2: She's saying, yeah, she comes up, she comes up.
Speaker 1: Tell me, what's the film that scared you the most?
Speaker 1: Do you like being scared?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I do like to be scared. Did
Speaker 2: you see Saint Maud.
Speaker 1: Fucking love Saint Wodew?
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought that that was the last thing
Speaker 2: I watched, or I was like, this is astonishing and
Speaker 2: grotesque and perfect, and I loved it. And I really
Speaker 2: like scary films and I love Halloween in October and like,
Speaker 2: I will never work on Halloween. And I've got like
Speaker 2: I did a corporate once where I got it was
Speaker 2: like for UK Housewares International Celebrate, you know whatever it was.
Speaker 2: So there were all these like La Crusee nominees and
Speaker 2: I was sort of kept saying to them that they
Speaker 2: should send me this one thing that's like it costs
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds and it looks like a pumpkin, but
Speaker 2: it's like La Cruse cast real dish, and I was
Speaker 2: can you not picture it?
Speaker 1: I just don't know what La Crusee is.
Speaker 2: Goldine, you're like a Hollywood man now and you don't
Speaker 2: know La Cruze. Are you kidding? But this is the
Speaker 2: world you're in now. You need to like because people
Speaker 2: are going to talk to you. You go to award things.
Speaker 2: You need to know Lu Crusee. Now this is the world.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's very fancy homeware and the life that I
Speaker 3: project on you has the Cruisee.
Speaker 2: There's like an La flat.
Speaker 3: That you hope that you have soon in silver Lake
Speaker 3: and there's like La Crusee in your Silverweight flat and
Speaker 3: it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1: What am I doing with this Homeway?
Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to do anything with it because
Speaker 3: of your stuff. But there'll be like there's like days
Speaker 3: where you.
Speaker 2: Do like personal time where you're like, hollyo, it stops
Speaker 2: today and today like whatever. You know, you have to
Speaker 2: make decisions on stuff to do with your personal life,
Speaker 2: but you cook with it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to in and out drive. I'm
Speaker 1: staying in with my Lac Cruse in like.
Speaker 2: Ten fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: So this is the moment where you hear what it
Speaker 3: is and then when you're like, however old, you'll be like,
Speaker 3: that's so funny.
Speaker 2: I remember Sarah Baron and being like, what's La Cruise?
Speaker 1: And now look at meurger in the cruises in my
Speaker 1: La crusee three hundred pounds whatever.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love autumn so much that I was like,
Speaker 2: you guys should give me one of these things.
Speaker 3: For free, and they did so every Halloween I cook
Speaker 3: in my La Crusee. I watch a film and my
Speaker 3: husband found Saint Maude so disturbing he had to leave
Speaker 3: the room.
Speaker 2: But the first film that really fucked, like you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let me hit this with a
Speaker 2: straight bat. What was the first one that scared me
Speaker 2: the It was the nineteen eighties film Lucas. Oh. I
Speaker 2: think Corey Haim played Lucas. Charlie Sheen was in it.
Speaker 3: As a kind like as a kind jock, and I
Speaker 3: think there was like an actress in the eighties named
Speaker 3: maybe Carrie Green when Nona Ryder was in it, and
Speaker 3: it's like about a little nerdy boy, and it was
Speaker 3: like there was an unlocking in my brain.
Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep. Like my parents say they remember me,
Speaker 2: like my mom coming home and my my dad says
Speaker 2: he remembers watching me and my mom coming in from
Speaker 2: the like walking up the driveway with me just hysterical
Speaker 2: and my mom behind me going, you know, like I, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what have we done? I remember my parents having to
Speaker 2: sit up with me while I sobbed.
Speaker 3: It was my first time feeling like there was poison
Speaker 3: in my brain, you know, like some poison gets in
Speaker 3: and you're like, what I would do to want to do.
Speaker 2: This visual or what?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There's a way that I've heard I never watched Requiem
Speaker 3: for a Dream because I got too scared of what
Speaker 3: people said about it. And it was the way that
Speaker 3: people talk about Requiem for a Dream in two thousand
Speaker 3: and two.
Speaker 2: Is I was like, it's how I felt about Lucas.
Speaker 2: Everyone is saying my Lucas feeling, and it was something
Speaker 2: about watching this little boy like get mocked was the
Speaker 2: scariest thing to this date I have ever borne witness too.
Speaker 1: What's a unique answer, heartbreaking answer, sir? What is the film?
Speaker 1: Speaking of heartbreaking, what's the film that made you cry
Speaker 1: the most? If not Lucas? Do you cry a lot?
Speaker 3: Well, Lucas as well as a young person beaches, like
Speaker 3: I cry at films. I mean, I just sort of
Speaker 3: I stopped. I'm trying to think of like slightly more
Speaker 3: interesting things. I'm not going to tell you up or whatever.
Speaker 2: Inside Out, but like, although yes and yes, fuck have
Speaker 2: you seen Inside Out too yet? I have?
Speaker 1: I think it's excellent me too, love to.
Speaker 2: That was a lot to deal with, But the one
Speaker 2: that was really hard for me was Sideways when Paul
Speaker 2: Giamati at the towards the end, like takes that bottle
Speaker 2: and like lonely people not gonna It's not workable for me.
Speaker 1: This brings us back to the old lady, what's in
Speaker 1: the TV? You don't like people on their own?
Speaker 2: I don't like people on their own, but I also,
Speaker 2: like my husband would tell you if I don't enjoy caretaking.
Speaker 2: So there's a real you know, I just I really
Speaker 2: the film. What was the name of the film. It's
Speaker 2: set in Glasgow with Jesse Buckley about dumb I So
Speaker 2: I remember just loving that film, and I was like,
Speaker 2: should we rewatch? My husband's like okay, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't watch those kids waiting for her
Speaker 2: when they think they're going out for pizza.
Speaker 3: Nope, I won't watch this. I will not watch a
Speaker 3: sad child, and I will not watch us sad. I
Speaker 3: can Interestingly, I can handle sad old women. I can't
Speaker 3: handle sad men can't do it, can't do it?
Speaker 2: Why because women? This is bad?
Speaker 3: It's like again, real, real, real gender gender generalizations. But
Speaker 3: like pretty much women aren't as lonely pretty much they're
Speaker 3: not and men are.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's the film that you you love? Critics
Speaker 1: don't like it. It's not it's not a beloved film,
Speaker 1: but you love it very much.
Speaker 2: Indeed, if Magic Mike is happening, I'm going on opening deck.
Speaker 3: So the first Magic Mike film. No, Soderbergh didn't know
Speaker 3: what he was doing. He wasn't sure, I see what
Speaker 3: he was going for.
Speaker 2: I really respect it. And then they went, let's give
Speaker 2: these people what they want with Double XL.
Speaker 3: It is such a fine film. I went to see
Speaker 3: Last Dance. I said to my friends, I said, you,
Speaker 3: I had been through a thing.
Speaker 2: They were like, what can we do?
Speaker 3: And I was like, can we go together in his
Speaker 3: seat Magic Mike last day?
Speaker 2: Because Jeff wasn't gonna go, and like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be like an old lady going to see Magic Mike.
Speaker 2: I'm on my own, so we went. I just I
Speaker 2: have so much time for Channing Tatum. I think he's
Speaker 2: like one of the most fascinating stars in all of Hollywood.
Speaker 2: I think he's a fucking phenomenal actor. And I think
Speaker 2: it was just like Last Dance, not quite as much,
Speaker 2: but Double XCEL. They just went, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Let's do an on the road, Buddy flickat Sense of Humor,
Speaker 3: great stock characters, Jada Pinkett Smith, She's if Jada PingER
Speaker 3: Smith is doing an interview, I am listening because she's
Speaker 3: crazy and she brings all of her insanity.
Speaker 2: When she went on off menu, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, well, I'll be listening to this one it was.
Speaker 3: You know, she's just fascinating. She's incredible in this role.
Speaker 3: It is genius casting.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now. It's possible. Then when we're
Speaker 2: talking about which one's going in my coffin, it might
Speaker 2: be that one, because it is there's so much joy
Speaker 2: in that film, so.
Speaker 1: Much lovely answer. On the other hand, what is a
Speaker 1: film that you used to love but you've watched it
Speaker 1: recently and you've thought, oh, I don't know this anymore.
Speaker 3: The very, so very truthfully, I really struggled with this
Speaker 3: because I think nostalgia is not such a strong feeling
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: When I was watching Inside Out Too, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't wait for Inside up through
Speaker 2: when we could really see nostalgia at play. Like I
Speaker 2: sometimes think my whole body is just a block of nostalgia.
Speaker 3: So you know, if I loved it, then I love
Speaker 3: it now. But what I really makes me sad is
Speaker 3: when I go back. So I was thinking about like
Speaker 3: Crocodile Dundee.
Speaker 2: Was a film I loved.
Speaker 1: That's a really good answer, But then you.
Speaker 2: Go back and aside from like a million ways and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, insane, horrible. I'm sure of a racist film.
Speaker 3: I really despise unacknowledged age gaps. So if we're gonna
Speaker 3: look at a man who's twenty five years older than
Speaker 3: the woman, he's fucking cool.
Speaker 2: That happens. Let's explore it, let's talk about it, but
Speaker 2: don't present it like it's not happening, Like it's not
Speaker 2: I shouldn't just have to watch a fifty year old
Speaker 2: with a twenty five year old, because what a twenty
Speaker 2: five year old lady really wants is some like fifty
Speaker 2: five year old en peen, you know.
Speaker 3: So that grossed me out when I like there was
Speaker 3: some rewatching and I was like, oh oh, Also like
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this without you know, wading into waters
Speaker 3: that are to something or other.
Speaker 2: I for my wedding, we thought it was a small wedding,
Speaker 2: and we thought, let's actually watch a film with our
Speaker 2: guests instead of dancing, Like Jeff hates dancing. I love dancing,
Speaker 2: but I like dancing like at someone else's wedding, like
Speaker 2: no one. It's like I need to not be the
Speaker 2: center of attention. No, no, no, But then I want
Speaker 2: to become the center of attention. So it's like, who's
Speaker 2: that guy's go for? Wait, that girl can do. It's
Speaker 2: not like the bride is not not so.
Speaker 3: Jeff was like, we've only got like forty guests, and
Speaker 3: let's like rent this little thing and I'll watch a
Speaker 3: film together.
Speaker 2: What would feel right? And we got married in England
Speaker 2: and New York is my place, my place, so it
Speaker 2: was like, how do we And I was like, let's
Speaker 2: get a real New York. I mean, I'm so embarrassed
Speaker 2: telling you this.
Speaker 3: But the film we picked without doing as much research
Speaker 3: so we should have done.
Speaker 2: And this was a long time ago, was Manhattan. I
Speaker 2: don't know when you last watched it. And you know,
Speaker 2: I will say for myself, I believe in gray areas,
Speaker 2: you know, but I also and I can also kind
Speaker 2: of do some art artists separation stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was real uncomfortable. It was it
Speaker 3: was like the worst choice at our wedding. So actually,
Speaker 3: upon reflection, let's go with Manhattan.
Speaker 1: It's such a funny thing to watch at your wedding.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you know what, Let's actually let's go do
Speaker 4: the dancing. Let's do the dancing instead. It was so embarrassing,
Speaker 4: well done. What is the film that means the most
Speaker 4: to you? Not necessarily the film itself is good, but
Speaker 4: the experience you had around seeing the film will always
Speaker 4: make it special to you.
Speaker 1: Sarah Baron, please, in.
Speaker 3: A way, I think it's pulp fiction, and the reason
Speaker 3: for that is I feel that some of like the
Speaker 3: inside the poll within. For me, one of many is
Speaker 3: like I am someone who wants so bad to be cool,
Speaker 3: like I want to be one of the cool kids desperately,
Speaker 3: but I am I am fundamentally quite uncool. And pulp
Speaker 3: fiction was the first cool thing, the right It was
Speaker 3: the first time I ever loved the right thing to love,
Speaker 3: and that really meant something to me.
Speaker 1: As it happened.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like a girl performing that she thinks radio
Speaker 2: had is like so amazing, Like I'm like, no, I
Speaker 2: like love Neirvanah. I'm like, no, I don't love Neirvanah.
Speaker 2: I'm like busy listening to like musical theater. You know.
Speaker 2: I was always that and really wanting to be other.
Speaker 2: And that was when I felt like, nah, I'm a
Speaker 2: cool bit. Oh yeah, fiction for the tenth time. Excellent, excellent,
Speaker 2: great movie holds up nicely? What about it? Do you
Speaker 2: not think holds up?
Speaker 1: That's some uh tricky race stuff in it. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: but other than that, that's great.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that that what you said, and
Speaker 2: I thought you were sort of like I was thinking
Speaker 2: about that question a different way.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, yep, so great. What is the film
Speaker 1: you most relate to?
Speaker 2: I have never related to a film in my life.
Speaker 2: I don't think like I know that's a weird way
Speaker 2: of but I was trying to think about a character
Speaker 2: when I'm like, that's me. So then where I got
Speaker 2: to was when I started doing sixteen Candles rewatch, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm Joan Cusack.
Speaker 3: That's who I am. I'm Joan Cusack. I'm right, No, Brett.
Speaker 3: She's fucking awesome. She is funny, she has a healthy
Speaker 3: personal life.
Speaker 2: But she's not cool. But she's awesome, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's not like I watch School of Rock and go, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm the or oh, but I'm just like, I am
Speaker 3: Joan Cusack, and.
Speaker 2: I understand this all myself. So if she's in a film, yeah,
Speaker 2: I then understand myself a little bit better. So you know,
Speaker 2: like if you ever like looked at a picture of
Speaker 2: yourself to try to understand what you look like, you know,
Speaker 2: because you're like, I know, it's not quite what the
Speaker 2: mirror is telling me, So what the fuck do I
Speaker 2: look like? And then you like look at a photo
Speaker 2: or something and I feel like, who am I? How
Speaker 2: do we come across to people? We watch? Joan Cusack? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: there we are.
Speaker 1: That's very very Stu again, Stu, what is the sexiest
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Sarah Barry sexiest time I've ever seen? What's a film
Speaker 2: that I went to see when I was like seventeen,
Speaker 2: called Female Versions and it was starring till To Swinton.
Speaker 2: It was the first time I ever saw till To
Speaker 2: Swinton and there's like a sex scene between these two women.
Speaker 2: What I now understand at forty five is it was
Speaker 2: female gays. We didn't have that language then I didn't
Speaker 2: understand what I was watching. But I left the I'm
Speaker 2: not kidding, I am not kidding. I am not kidding.
Speaker 2: I left the film with the understanding that I was
Speaker 2: a lesbian like I And then I tried. I tried
Speaker 2: multiple times to come out to people I was. And
Speaker 2: you know, it was the nineties. My best friend was gay,
Speaker 2: but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: You know, I felt all this shame as a lesbian
Speaker 2: and so I like came out to some gay friends
Speaker 2: of mine and I was like, I'm gay and they're like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: not gay. And I know I'm not to say, like,
Speaker 2: you're not gay, you are?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like just like watching you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: so it was, and now you know, it was because what.
Speaker 3: It was trying to get at was how women experience
Speaker 3: pleasure and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And I've you know, it has been on my to
Speaker 2: do list forever to rewatch it.
Speaker 1: And I never had bunny for a person to come
Speaker 1: out and everyone to keep pushing them back in.
Speaker 2: You you're not, you're not, you're not you know, and
Speaker 2: then you're not the one.
Speaker 3: And then once like I went with some you know,
Speaker 3: I have had quite a few examples, and you know,
Speaker 3: mostly because at the time, like now I feel like,
Speaker 3: can I just please have a fucking female friend who
Speaker 3: isn't gay?
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: You go?
Speaker 3: I like, I remember, I was like, how come I
Speaker 3: only have a couple of friends. I need some single friends.
Speaker 3: But at the time I only had gay male friends,
Speaker 3: and all of them told me that I wasn't gay,
Speaker 3: And I've subsequently told this too many gay female friends
Speaker 3: and they just laugh and explain that I'm, you know,
Speaker 3: probably bisexual, but aren't we all.
Speaker 1: There's a sub category to this question, Traveling Bonn is
Speaker 1: worrying why Dunes film you found arousing? You weren't sure
Speaker 1: you should? What's that Sarah about it?
Speaker 2: I found McCauley Culkin in home alone. I wanted it,
Speaker 2: and I knew there was something wrong with wanting it. Now.
Speaker 3: I wasn't like twenty when it came out. I was
Speaker 3: I think, I'm like a year or two. I might
Speaker 3: be two years older than Macaulay Culkin. And so if
Speaker 3: he was like seven, I was nine or you know,
Speaker 3: it was something sort of like that. But I liked
Speaker 3: the cut of his jip or whatever people say, and
Speaker 3: I knew, but you know, seven and not like that's
Speaker 3: so two years at that age is like gandal And
Speaker 3: there was something about like that. I'm you wasn't like,
Speaker 3: wasn't appropriate for me at that whatever age I would
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was like ten.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I was like, it's wrong,
Speaker 3: it's wrong that I want this child in the way
Speaker 3: that I want this child and I wanted them.
Speaker 1: Do you know what it is?
Speaker 2: I think I have some shit with blonde guys. I
Speaker 2: always tell I think I like the Song of my
Speaker 2: Heart is like a surfer boy or some some like blonde.
Speaker 2: I my mind doesn't want it, but somewhere deep inside
Speaker 2: there is a recurrent theme here. I will just tell
Speaker 2: you that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's really fascinating. But Jeff isn't blunt.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't you know. I've dated a couple of
Speaker 2: those guys, and you know it's never. We're never.
Speaker 3: I've never felt like an intellectual connection to a blonde man.
Speaker 1: I am blonde people.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've never been like, oh here's a
Speaker 2: vibe ever ever?
Speaker 1: Not once.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, I think, like, give me a guy,
Speaker 3: give me a California boys are something I don't know.
Speaker 2: My husband is a nerdy ginger.
Speaker 1: Objectively, what's the greatest film, if ever seen?
Speaker 3: Objectively? The greatest film I have ever seen is Mulholland Drive. Ah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's nothing better. I don't I don't know what to
Speaker 3: tell you like it is number one. It is incredible.
Speaker 3: Assuming you are also a fan, which of course you are.
Speaker 3: There is a dry cleaners if you get out of
Speaker 3: Embankment tube station.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, been there many times, of course. You know
Speaker 1: what's your favorite? Actually, my favorite in Banget stage, my
Speaker 1: favorite station. You can walk over the bridge, you can
Speaker 1: walk back. It's there, it's right, it's perfect bank the station,
Speaker 1: best station, ream good size in and out, not the
Speaker 1: dream station.
Speaker 2: Breaking news from listen to me until I said a makement,
Speaker 2: you went holy shit. Okay.
Speaker 3: So you're coming into Embankment. If you go out, if
Speaker 3: you turn to your right, you're gonna make the right.
Speaker 3: You turn right, you go to the river, you turn left.
Speaker 3: You're heading up towards Charing Cross Road. Yeah yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so you're heading left towards Charing Cross Road. But then
Speaker 3: instead of walking up that little sort of you're gonna
Speaker 3: you're gonna take a hard left. So you're walking under
Speaker 3: like a bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay.
Speaker 2: So you're under the bridge.
Speaker 3: Next to the news agent where you buy your nuts.
Speaker 3: There is a dry cleaner all in wood paneling, and
Speaker 3: it is Mulholland drive.
Speaker 2: Look out for it.
Speaker 3: Because you'll never notice it, and then one day you'll
Speaker 3: be like, oh, this is a fucking setting for a
Speaker 3: David Lynch film.
Speaker 2: It's fabulous. I think, you know, it is the most
Speaker 2: incredible film. It is about Hollywood. It is.
Speaker 3: It is really kind of hard to find a film
Speaker 3: or anything where acting doesn't hit a bum note, Like
Speaker 3: being incredible actor is really hard. I think, I say,
Speaker 3: this is someone who loves watching film and television, and
Speaker 3: there's not a bum note in that.
Speaker 2: It is so fucking believable while being so bizarre. You
Speaker 2: have to think about it so hard.
Speaker 3: It is the most glorious, intricate and then simple expression
Speaker 3: of an idea.
Speaker 2: I fucking love that film in my dream version of
Speaker 2: my life. I watch it every year. I pick a
Speaker 2: day and it's my mal Holland drive day.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Well, you get no
Speaker 1: argument for me. I love that film.
Speaker 2: It's not a controversial choice for like a phenomenal film.
Speaker 1: Well not, you know, I can there are people that
Speaker 1: would not enjoy that, and I get it.
Speaker 2: Oh, let me say I respect someone. If you say
Speaker 2: I don't like it, I'd be like, oh, so fair.
Speaker 2: But if you say it's not good, that's what I
Speaker 2: would take issue with.
Speaker 1: Get out, get the sequence. The thing about acting, there's
Speaker 1: the amazing sequence where she goes in to do the
Speaker 1: audition with the creepy guy, and that she's an incredible
Speaker 1: in that fil Naomi Watts is etordinary. Anyway, what is
Speaker 1: the film you could or have? What's the most over
Speaker 1: and over again?
Speaker 2: Ridesmaids fantastic, Girls Trip fantastic, The Bird Cage fantastic, And
Speaker 2: then it's sort of and then as well, I will
Speaker 2: keep on if it's on.
Speaker 3: This is a slight more off the beaten path film Sisters,
Speaker 3: in which Tina Fey and Amy Poehler switched and played
Speaker 3: against type, and it is a great and it doesn't
Speaker 3: get quite the credit that A Girl's Tripper a Bridesmaid's gets,
Speaker 3: But I am telling you you just like, if as
Speaker 3: long as Amy Pohlar has something okay to work with,
Speaker 3: you will see one of the most extraordinary performances of
Speaker 3: all time, like maybe the greatest comic performer.
Speaker 2: I have ever watched in my life.
Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, you know, Melissa McCarthy and Kristino and
Speaker 3: all these others, we were like, where are the other ones?
Speaker 3: I was like, that's the good A second I heard saying,
Speaker 3: there's this consistency doesn't matter. What the fuck you give
Speaker 3: Amy Pohler, it doesn't matter. She will go and do
Speaker 3: something crazy with it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love her.
Speaker 3: My mom took my brother and me to New York
Speaker 3: City in nineteen ninety two and we saw him in
Speaker 3: a broad as Nathan Lane in a Broadway revival of
Speaker 3: Guys and Dolls. And it was one of the greatest
Speaker 3: physical experiences of my life was getting to set in
Speaker 3: that audience.
Speaker 2: It was He's in that film, I mean, the bird
Speaker 2: Cage with I mean, it's it's just.
Speaker 1: That he's like a he's a bad mom. He's a
Speaker 1: bad narcissistic man, but he also.
Speaker 2: Loves him so much. He just loves his little boy
Speaker 2: so much. But I mean Geene Hackman in that film,
Speaker 2: I mean that when he's talking about the leaves changing
Speaker 2: and driving and dieting. I mean, you know it is
Speaker 2: it's extra like this is the one actually as we're
Speaker 2: talking where I'm like, if you were allowed with this
Speaker 2: podcast to like say to your guest that what they
Speaker 2: had to do was at the end they had to
Speaker 2: set aside two hours and watch one of the like
Speaker 2: whatever they were the most moved, I'd be like, that's
Speaker 2: what I do. I'd go downstairs right now, and I'd
Speaker 2: be like, watch the bird Cage again, right now. It
Speaker 2: is so joyful and good.
Speaker 1: What's the west film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Oh? You know what?
Speaker 3: I fucking hated. I couldn't remember. I block films that
Speaker 3: I did filled me with rage. God help the girl.
Speaker 3: That film, by the like, some member of Belle and
Speaker 3: Sebastian made a film okay in twenty fourteen, and what
Speaker 3: I felt I was watching was a bunch of cameras
Speaker 3: on an emaciated teenager that was being objectified by like
Speaker 3: old men.
Speaker 2: And I hated it. And it was like eating disorders.
Speaker 2: Oh what interesting girls have I've got mental health? It
Speaker 2: was like fuck you fuck y' okay. I don't like
Speaker 2: when people do that.
Speaker 1: What's the film you're incomedian, what's the film that made
Speaker 1: you laugh?
Speaker 2: The Moist, Bridesmaids?
Speaker 1: It's a fucking banger.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's crazy. It's a crazy film. It's
Speaker 2: it's you know. I am a succession obsessive. And I
Speaker 2: loved the thinking about why that show was so amazing.
Speaker 2: It was like a fun place for me to take
Speaker 2: my hat. I love to think about excellence. Brett and
Speaker 2: I've been like why the sopranos, Why why? And I
Speaker 2: think Bridesmaids needs a lot of thinking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a filmmaker. I don't direct, I don't
Speaker 3: you know. But I love having shit like that explained
Speaker 3: to me. And it's the script. It's there's no flab.
Speaker 3: Every look someone does is infused with comic excellence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed, Sarah Baron, you have been wonderful as expected. However,
Speaker 1: when you were sat at this lake with your grandkids
Speaker 1: and your great grand kids and your great great grandkids,
Speaker 1: and you were sat there and you've been ill actually,
Speaker 1: which is a sort of weird thing to wishing yourself,
Speaker 1: but not mentally but physically, you've been really ill for
Speaker 1: quite some time. And then you were sat in this
Speaker 1: deck chair and then your hearts went, oh god, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the worst heart attack that seek happened, but it
Speaker 1: was still the heart attack. And everyone was like swimming shit. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you died, and I was walking past with the coffin,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm like, And I goes, anyway, is
Speaker 1: anyone noticed your great grandma's been a bit still? And
Speaker 1: they're like, ah fuck, And I say, come on, let's
Speaker 1: get her in the coffin, but you had grown in
Speaker 1: the heat and some we couldn't fit in the coffin,
Speaker 1: so we had to chop you up. I said, kids,
Speaker 1: get kids, get a load of actses. We've got a
Speaker 1: load of as put you all in the in the coffin,
Speaker 1: stuffy and stuffy and stuff. There's no room in this coffin.
Speaker 1: There's only enough room in this coffin to slip one
Speaker 1: DVD into the side for you to take across to
Speaker 1: the other side. And when you get there, it's movie
Speaker 1: night every night. What film are you taking to show
Speaker 1: the people in heaven when it is your movie night?
Speaker 1: Sarah Baron, go.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I'm going to go with the bird Cage.
Speaker 3: Because I think that, as I said to you as
Speaker 3: we were talking, it was the one where I went, gosh,
Speaker 3: ready to go sit down right now, that's what it
Speaker 3: would be. And it's excellent and it still reminds me
Speaker 3: of being young and everything the great wide world about
Speaker 3: to open up before you. And another Dirk secret is
Speaker 3: I kind of like Miami Beach and there we go.
Speaker 1: It's great. I love my own beach. So, Sarah Baron,
Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. Tell us what we should
Speaker 1: look out for and listen to in the coming months.
Speaker 2: Look out for I'm at the Edinburgh French Festival. Please
Speaker 2: give me a big packed room. Listen to me rage
Speaker 2: about my mom? Are my anger problems mine or hers?
Speaker 2: Come be part of the festivities. Also, I know Brett
Speaker 2: talks about film. I talk about television. I do a
Speaker 2: television podcast with my husband Jeff. We work together, which
Speaker 2: is to be admired but also pitied. Our podcast is
Speaker 2: about trying to find excellence. There's so much TV out there, Brett,
Speaker 2: but you don't have time to wade through it. You
Speaker 2: like good shit. You only want to watch good shit.
Speaker 2: My podcast they like to watch.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you right now the television shows are
Speaker 3: The Trojan Horse and a Marital Dynamic sits inside.
Speaker 2: The end.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sarah. I hope you have a
Speaker 1: wonderful time in Edinburgh and that every night it's a
Speaker 1: packed night, and that people love your show and you
Speaker 1: enjoy it and you have perspective and mental health and
Speaker 1: have a wonderful time.
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this, Thank you for having me Brat.
Speaker 2: It was really nice to see you have a good death.
Speaker 1: It was lovely to see you good day to you, Sarah.
Speaker 1: So that was episode three hundred and nine at Over
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Speaker 1: Thank you to Sarah for giving me a time. Thanks
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