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Speaker 1: is always the toughest day, right tuesdays to day we

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Speaker 1: say we got to push a little harder. You know,

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Speaker 1: because Doua Leap has come in to put her hands

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Speaker 1: on the deck with us. Yeah, he's welcome. I noticed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last time I was in the studio here,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's definitely your hair. I'm proud of

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Speaker 1: myself recognizing good joke. Good joke is there's symbolism in

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Speaker 1: and it looks great. It looks great. Is the symbolism

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Speaker 1: in that red symbolism?

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Speaker 2: I don't know when I was when I was making

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Speaker 2: that's that was just my new vibe. Now.

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Speaker 1: But when you walked in, there was a false set

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Speaker 1: of screams from Tanya and Sis. Now we've been excited.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for your arrival.

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Speaker 3: I've been listening to this new song on repeat since

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Speaker 3: it came out on repeat, Yeah, it's I can't handle it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you like it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play it and we're gonna we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into the psyche of it in a second. But first,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the Grammys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Grammy nominations.

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Speaker 2: Massive deal, massive deal. I'm super, super super happy.

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Speaker 1: What was the coolest or most interesting text congratulations text

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Speaker 2: What was the most interesting one? I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: mean just the excitement that I think me and Mark

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Speaker 2: this group chat and so it was just like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, guys, like this is so exciting. Can't believe

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Speaker 2: we got two Grammy norms. And Mark and Andrew got

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Speaker 1: Some people say that they don't you know, find I

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Speaker 2: Definitely, you, I mean, it's it's like I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: And to be involved in the movie of the year.

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Speaker 1: Was Barbie your acting debut like a fish like a

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Speaker 1: There's so many great layers to that song too. You know,

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Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, it was nice to be off

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Speaker 2: for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's purge. It would take me like a year.

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Speaker 2: Well now on Instagram, they've got this setting where you

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Speaker 2: can do multiple stuff. Everyone in the background.

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Speaker 1: Ready to do a tech class after this, Julie, But

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming in. It's always great

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Speaker 1: to say thank you. We'll see the Grammy