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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys as we bring you training camp updates

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Speaker 1: So glad you're with us as we continue to break

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Speaker 1: down Cowboys Camp twenty twenty and leads you into Kickoff Week,

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Speaker 1: which will actually start next week. Is this is our

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Speaker 1: final show, guys, booing weekly next week. It's a daily

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Speaker 1: occurrence starting, So let's celebrate a little bit because it's

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Speaker 1: time to talk football in a real since we've been

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Speaker 1: talking football all offseason if we're being real here, but

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Speaker 1: it's time to talk football on a daily occurrence. So

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Speaker 1: if you're sick of us, too bad. You're getting us

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Speaker 1: every day starting next Tuesday. But so glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah stanback or residence, super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion, and the Great Rob Phillips here from Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. And guys, it's it's getting closer. We're

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Speaker 1: under two weeks until kickoff in September thirteenth on the

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Speaker 1: As you kind of get that Christmas type of feel

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Speaker 1: where you can anticipate it coming, but it's just not

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Speaker 1: there yet, Kylis. It almost feels as though we are

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Speaker 1: getting back to normal. We were right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was getting Cowboy football back on television. And I

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Speaker 1: need to talk to you and Rob because I thought

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Speaker 1: we were boys. I thought we were cool. But I

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Speaker 1: have found out otherwise through this whole process that y'all

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Speaker 1: didn't call me and let me know not to go

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Speaker 1: through my ritual because we were not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to watch football on Sunday. Thank you, Kyle, Thank

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Speaker 1: you Rob. Here's the thing, and I'll go ahead and

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Speaker 1: say this. The Cowboys still won on Sunday because there's

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Speaker 1: and an entire nation that has zero idea what the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are doing based off of the television scrimmage. So

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a w on Sunday. Can we not

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Speaker 1: that they won that? Rob? I mean, we'll back me

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Speaker 1: didn't have one hundred percent idea until we got in

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Speaker 1: on that one, I will say this, there were fans

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Speaker 1: tweeted to me and said, what's with the area fifty

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Speaker 1: one practice we got going on right now? Nobody can

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Speaker 1: see anything that's going on, but Kyle's right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess from the standpoint of they've had at that

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Speaker 1: sounds and they did that. But yeah, it's definitely playing

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Speaker 1: up on Saturday. Mike McCarthy being secret Mike might be

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Speaker 1: my favorite Mike Isaiah, But whenever you're talking about secrecy

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Speaker 1: everybody else is playing checkers. You played for a guy

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Speaker 1: total Bill Belichick move with no numbers, no name on

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Night. That's the scrimmage quote unquote scrimmage we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: It was more like a practice, but he kept it

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Speaker 1: As a football fan, you've been itching for that moment.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Rob, let me let me add to that point, man,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. I just as a young player, if

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't try to press in

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Speaker 1: these practice situations absolutely and overthink it because you really do.

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Speaker 1: Like Isaiah said, you've got to make an impression. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we talked to Treyvon Diggs yesterday on a call,

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Speaker 1: and obviously he's gaining confidence and he's he's been able

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Speaker 1: to kind of settle in. There's more patience with a

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Speaker 1: second round draft pick though, than there is somebody that

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Speaker 1: wasn't drafting coming in and trying to make this roster.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a fantastic point. Go for it,

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Speaker 1: I said, And I was gonna say for everybody to

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Speaker 1: understand how how much of a mind game this is.

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Speaker 1: To this day, to this day, I ended up getting

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Speaker 1: cut by Seattle after I came back from my my

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Speaker 1: cut by Seattle, which in turn led me to go

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Speaker 1: it was all right, but I remember, I remember, I

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Speaker 1: remember one particular practice I was doing really well in practice,

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Speaker 1: and I was I was one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: was kind of fringe, right. We had some really good

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Speaker 1: receivers out there, and I remember running around and there

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Speaker 1: was this play that the coaches were excited about all week,

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Speaker 1: and they put me in for the play. Right, So

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Speaker 1: action thing and I ran a little inside scene, got

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Speaker 1: inside the corner and I stemmed up the safety and

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Speaker 1: I ran a post route deep over over everybody. And

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was. I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was Charlie Whitehurst through a dime, right, nice pretty ball, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm running and little toilet paper rolls coming and

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Speaker 1: the thing comes down and it goes right through my arms.

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Speaker 1: A man, I know, and listen the disappointment in myself

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Speaker 1: and the disappointment that I could see on all the

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Speaker 1: coaches faces in my head, that's what got me cut

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Speaker 1: to this day. Had I made that catch, I would

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Speaker 1: have made the team, right, And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I would have want to ring, but I would have

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Speaker 1: made the team. I would have I would have made

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Speaker 1: the team in my head, seriously, and I harped on

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Speaker 1: that day after day, play after play. I can't get

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Speaker 1: that back, And to this day right now, I know,

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Speaker 1: So that's what these guys are thinking about every single

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah stand back and Rob, You're you're one of

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Speaker 1: the few, the proud that have been at every practice

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Speaker 1: so far. To ask you this question, I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to rub it in, Guys. I'm not trying to rub

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Speaker 1: You're you're one of the You're one of the few

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a completely unfair question to you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask you this. Thanks. How grade

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's first training camp, even though we're still kind

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Speaker 1: of in the middle of it. I'd give him an

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Speaker 1: A plus. I have to given the circumstances that this

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Speaker 1: team is in. Um I mentioned the fact that they've

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Speaker 1: been knocked on wood relatively healthy so far, guys have

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Speaker 1: been locked in, They've clearly been in condition. Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: been a good focus about camp and he seems that

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Speaker 1: basically talking to him after practice, it sounded on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: he sounds like they're very close to where they want

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Speaker 1: to be in terms of starting the season. I just

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Speaker 1: think having to navigate everything off the field with the

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic and trying to get guys ready and

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Speaker 1: just the logistics of it all. And it's not just him,

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Speaker 1: it's the support staff at the Star too. That's been

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Speaker 1: a huge part of this. But I think it's been

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Speaker 1: an a plus job so far. There's just a long

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Speaker 1: way to go, and is Jerry said on the fan

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Speaker 1: this morning, this doesn't end. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: daily thing. It's for us too. We have to be flexible.

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Speaker 1: I think Jerry called it, we got its option quarterback

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Speaker 1: time right now. You know, nobody knows what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen day to day with this virus and how everybody's

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Speaker 1: got to handle it. But I think Mike's done a

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Speaker 1: great job. What would you say, heck, Mom, Well, you

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Speaker 1: know the thing is, I can't base it off of

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Speaker 1: anything that I've seen, but I can base it off

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Speaker 1: of what the players are saying and I love it,

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Speaker 1: and it sounds to me like everyone has bought in.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I hear constantly being stated

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Speaker 1: about coach Mike McCarthy is the fact that he's a

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Speaker 1: player's coach and that he has this open door policy.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the open door policy works both ways, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's just knowing Mike McCarthy and the

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Speaker 1: kind of fiery guy that he is. I'm really wanting

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Speaker 1: to see what it's gonna be like once he puts

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Speaker 1: these guys under the test, or give them that scrutiny,

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Speaker 1: or tear them. Manu win on the side on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: But I love what I'm hearing from the team and

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Speaker 1: just his championship pedigree and his attention to detail. So

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Speaker 1: all things being considered, it sounds like everyone in this

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Speaker 1: group has bought in. Yeah, I mean it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you guys may have acquired of championship coach. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe along the way, maybe he's somewhere

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Speaker 1: along the way he's done pretty well for himself. But

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Speaker 1: it just sounds to me like a veteran coaches came

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Speaker 1: in here, knows exactly what the winning formula is um

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Speaker 1: knows exactly who he is as a coach and knows

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Speaker 1: exactly the type of team that he wants. He's came

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Speaker 1: in regardless of the circumstances that he's instilled his will.

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Speaker 1: He's imposed his will here, and that's that's all you

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Speaker 1: really expect from somebody like this. I don't there's you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else we can really add to

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Speaker 1: some great bosses, He has a heck of a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff right in place. He has veteran coaches, he has

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Speaker 1: coaches who have been head coaches underneath him. So I

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Speaker 1: think this is I mean, it's about a greater situation

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Speaker 1: as he could have possibly hoped for. I'm in terms

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Speaker 1: in terms of his coaching staff. This is easy peasy

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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, he has the ultimate bubble over

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Speaker 1: there obviously at the Star. So I think he did

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Speaker 1: it's a little unfair to kind of grade Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: at this point, because we don't know what the season

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Speaker 1: is going to hold. We don't know exactly what success

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Speaker 1: is going to pop up out of training camp, but

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Speaker 1: it's something at least to look at now. At least

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Speaker 1: to this point, things have gone to plan, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's really what you're really hoping for now. There

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Speaker 1: are some very tough decisions coming up over the next

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Speaker 1: week and coming up this Saturday at three p Central time.

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Speaker 1: That's the cutoff to have your roster down to fifty three,

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Speaker 1: have your practice squad set, and there's cuts to be

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Speaker 1: had as soon as really what today, maybe tomorrow rob

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Speaker 1: that we could start seeing maybe some of these cuts

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Speaker 1: start coming down. Well, I don't know cowboys. Cowboys usually

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Speaker 1: like to wait to do all that. They usually take

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Speaker 1: their time on that. But you never know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: So I would imagine usually that fifty three cut comes

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Speaker 1: all in one big clump on the day of. But

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Speaker 1: like Isaiah said, I mean, they're making these discussions right

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Speaker 1: now as we speak. It's a daily thing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they've probably got a pretty good idea what they want

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Speaker 1: think you know it's it's largely a veteran team. When

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Speaker 1: you think about the guys that they've brought in to

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Speaker 1: help on defense, I mean, they've got some veteran additions

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Speaker 1: that are going to help navigate this thing. But they

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Speaker 1: do have some decisions to make on young players. There's

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Speaker 1: no question about that. Well in a house or go

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Speaker 1: for it head mone No, I was just gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: I feel as though there when you start to build

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Speaker 1: the roster and you look at are just the possibilities

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Speaker 1: of what the Cowboys could intel on offense and defense,

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Speaker 1: you start asking these questions about like are we going

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00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: to have a fullback a true fullback on the roster.

642
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Are we gonna keep an additional tight end because we're

643
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: going to have the flex or hybrid tight end fullbacks scenario,

644
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: and so all of those are hanging in the balance

645
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: as to how this team is going to be built.

646
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I think from a special team's standpoint, even with your

647
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the defensive, then if you're going to

648
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: play that three four four three defense, are you going

649
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: to keep more cornerbacks and linebackers because you're gonna need

650
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: that in order to play that three four systems. So look,

651
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: it's so much that goes into this that's going to

652
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: be a deciding factor on who's gonna actually make the roster,

653
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: h who's going to the practice squad. I can tell

654
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: you guys this right now. The offensive side of the ball,

655
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: they know who as players. The players know who's made

656
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: the team offense. It's no question from a receiver standpoint,

657
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: even from a receiver standpoint, Even from a receiver standpoint,

658
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: you know who's made the team. You know you're gonna keep.

659
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna keep three tight ends, right, you

660
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: know you're gonna keep you know you're gonna keep three,

661
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, two running backs in a fullback. You know

662
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep two quarterbacks, maybe even three. Ay, I

663
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: guess you gotta keep three quarterbacks, right, I think we

664
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: get two more Rouster spots. So it's fifty five this year. Right,

665
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: it's a fluction. Got you, Okay? Got you? So, so

666
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, two running backs in a fullback, three quarterback,

667
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you got five receivers

668
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: that you're gonna keep. So it's really easy to do

669
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the math on the offensive side of the ball, the

670
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: question defensive side of the ball. These guys are stressed

671
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: right now. It's a lot easier to know where you

672
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: fall in the line when you say, okay, we're running

673
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: a four three defense, right, we're gonna keep We're gonna

674
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: keep eight D linemen. We're gonna keep you know, if

675
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: five linebackers, we're gonna keep six secondary guys. They don't know.

676
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: They don't know. So you talk about the secondary and

677
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: how many guys you start counting positions, right, Okay, if

678
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: the offense has this mini players, we have this many specialists.

679
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: These are these are the conversations that you have with yourself. Now,

680
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: just don't in this case, y'all don't know these a conversation.

681
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, so there's all right, So there's a

682
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: there's twenty there's twenty spots left on the on the roster, right,

683
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: and uh, but then but coach coach Ryan, you know,

684
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: he wants to he wants to run this type of defense,

685
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: so he needs at least a mini linebackers, and we

686
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: need at least this mini D lineman. So that means

687
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: that there's only this mini These are the mental mental

688
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: battles that these guys are going through right now. And

689
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: I can't remember distinctively when I was playing for the Cowboys.

690
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: This is a dude names Bruce Mays, Bruce Mays, and

691
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: we called him the grin Reaper. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

692
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to see Bruce around this time, right,

693
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: do not want to see Bruce around this time. I

694
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 1: was always taught as a young man growing up, you

695
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: look a man in his eyes when he's talking to

696
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: you when you walk, Do you see Bruce May's you

697
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: get cataracts? You start looking around. You don't want that

698
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: head down. You don't want to make any any conte

699
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: with Bruce because Bruce and he was looking at you.

700
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Bruce was gonna do this one thing. Come here, no crap,

701
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: so I mean you so Bruce will tell you to come,

702
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, bring your playbook, you know, get your stuff.

703
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: And you already knew what that was. And you know,

704
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I have my day with the Cowboys where I walked

705
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: in and they had a they had a desk or

706
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: the table right there at the front. Hey, little eight

707
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: foot table at the front, and he was getting guys ass.

708
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: They came into building. And I used to always say

709
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Hi to Bruce. Hey Fruce, are you doing man? Hey Bruce?

710
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: And for this this one time, I was like, hey Bruce,

711
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Bruce love me. And Bruce was like, Isaiah, I got you.

712
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm like got men. That's what goes on. That's what

713
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: goes on this week. Man. So you literally go from

714
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, four to six weeks of giving it your

715
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: absolute alle and it possibly being gone in a moment.

716
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: And I feel for these guys. This is a very

717
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: stressful week for the guys that don't know if they're

718
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: on the roster or not. Um, I wish them all

719
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: good luck. But yeah, there's there's some tough decisions to

720
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: be made. And as we're talking about decisions, don't be surprised.

721
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: This is coming from my feelings that I have inside

722
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: here in my heart. In my heart, I think there's

723
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a big name on defense that gets cut

724
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: that people aren't talking about right now. Okay, so too, okay,

725
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: Well what are one of those names? What do you think? Oh,

726
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: we don't. It's a big game. Yeah, I want you

727
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: to throw it out. I want to know who you got.

728
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's look at this scenario. This is a

729
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: gentleman about the name of haha. Clinton Dix, Okay, he's

730
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: a veteran, he's a proven veteran. He's playing for his

731
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: old coach. The reports have been what I've been reading,

732
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: the reports of being that he hasn't been what they

733
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: expected him to come in and bid to be. Why

734
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: pay somebody now, no disrespect to hah. So if I

735
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: see you on the streets, man, we're good. Okay, it's

736
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: just my opinion. But logically, why pay somebody the money

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00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: that he's probably that he's receiving right now? If you're

738
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: if he's not going to live up to the expectations

739
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: that you have for him. Going to our conversations last week,

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: I think that you I think that you can get

741
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas for the same amount that you're paying for

742
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: a haha. Now take this, If Earl Thomas was on

743
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: the field right now, would you ever question whether or

744
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: not he was gonna be at your roster? No? No, no,

745
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: And I think that you can get him for the

746
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: same price that you're paying haha. So that's my two cents.

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm out. That's it. Okay. Interesting. I like the call,

748
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: and it does make sense. I see where you're coming from,

749
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: because it looks like, system wise, it doesn't necessarily make

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00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: a ton of sense. For you've got another Let me

751
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: hit this stat really quickly, he Jasper Brinkley. You guys

752
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: remember that name. A couple of years ago. Ye, he

753
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: was cut for a very similar thing where he just

754
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't only fitting into a system, he was owed two

755
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: million dollars. Haha. Clinton Dix is guaranteed two point two five.

756
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: So the money has been cut before ultimately, is what

757
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm kind of throwing out there. There has been instances

758
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: where players that are guaranteed a couple million dollars, who

759
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: are veteran contracts or veteran additions that haven't necessarily made

760
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: a roster and haven't met made it through those cuts.

761
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: Now the heck, moone, who you got? Now? I mean

762
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: a lot of this, My feeling is it just feels sacrilegious. Man.

763
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: But when I when I think about the linebacker group

764
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: and you know, with LV and Jalen and just the

765
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: backup the guys that we see emerging, and I know

766
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: we can't talk about everybody, so I won't Sean Lee

767
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: where does he fit into that? Get? Where does he

768
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: fit into that rotation? He's a guy that has dealt

769
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: with injuries and where he is right now, we don't know.

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00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: When I'm looking at the defensive line, there's so man,

771
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: the defensive line room is crowded and we have a

772
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: bunch of studs there. I love Antoine Woods, I mean

773
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: because I can't talk about anybody else, but I just

774
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: feel like Antoine Woods is one of those guys that

775
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: maybe and he's had a pretty solid training camp from

776
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: what I've interpret what I've heard, I just feel like

777
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: you have a youth movement there with Gallamore and Hill

778
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: and all. As far as the way the rotation is

779
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna go, so all things being considered, I'm with you, Isaiah.

780
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's gonna be a name that

781
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: no one was accounting for as far as the veterans,

782
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: but when it comes down in the haha, I just

783
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: feel like with and I know we're gonna talk about

784
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: this in another segment, but I just feel as though

785
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: safety is a position where we have to have some

786
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: veteran experience, haha. Didn't get an opportunity to compete in

787
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: live in live action. I realize it. And you even said,

788
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, guys are all world, are all practice squad.

789
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is happening right now,

790
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: but I just feel as though with the better experience

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: that Haha has, that it would be hard to cut

792
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: a guy like that. Now, if we're talking et on

793
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: the other side of that, then yeah, let me let me,

794
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: let me throw this curveball at you. Okay, this is

795
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: a little insight for all of our viewers right now.

796
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Things get a little things get a little tricky when

797
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: it comes down to the front office of pro sports,

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: especially the NFL. And there's this thing called a guaranteed contracts.

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00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: So as a veteran, once you've hit veteran status, if

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Speaker 1: you're on the roster the first game, they are guaranty,

801
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: your salary is guaranteed. So what you what you tend

802
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: to see here, and you guys may see this, okay,

803
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: musical chairs going on. Coaches don't know, especially right now,

804
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: they don't know who's gonna get cut from other teams, right,

805
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: So if you release a veteran, if you cut a

806
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: veteran to prior to your first game, right, and you

807
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: get through your first week and you go out there

808
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: and you you scout the market and see what else

809
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: is out there, you can now bring other players onto

810
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: your roster, or even the same players that you cut

811
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: back onto your roster without guaranteam their entire salary. Sault point. No,

812
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: that you might see a little music of chairs going

813
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: on UM as this season approaches, especially with the fact

814
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: that nobody's been able to see anybody play well. Yeah,

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00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Jerry was asked about Earl again on the fan today

816
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: and he the same thing. He didn't he didn't close

817
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: the door. He really didn't want to talk about it

818
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: because he's the competitive situation. He doesn't want to tip

819
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: his hand either way. Obviously, there have not been any

820
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: discussions there with Earl to this point. No, that's true,

821
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: that's been put out there. Absolutely. Yeah, But I think

822
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: I think with Xavier Woods is growing injury or whatever

823
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: he's dealing with right now, I think numbers at safety

824
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: are important. I mean, I I think Haha's probably here

825
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: at this point at the end of at the end

826
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: of cutdown day, and you know Sean Lee. I think

827
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to just get him ready for the season

828
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: like they always do. I think they need numbers at

829
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: linebacker too, and he's very important. I think he's still

830
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: very important to what they do, especially you know late

831
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: in coming off the injury. I think you're right. Heck,

832
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: I think Antoine Woods has had a nice camp and

833
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I think they've got plans for him in a rotation too.

834
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't see a lot of

835
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: veterans getting surprise cuts, but I guess we never know,

836
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: but injuries. Injuries always factor in, right, and hopefully they

837
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: get through this. These last few days of practice proport

838
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: to cut down in good shape. I I didn't expect

839
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: to see Leonard poor Nick get cut either. That's fair.

840
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: That's fair. I tend to lean with Rob as well,

841
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: where I don't necessarily think any of those veterans are

842
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: going to be cut whenever the time comes. I just

843
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: think there's a possibility, and there's conversations that are being had.

844
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: Like Isaiah said, it's a nervous week for anybody who's

845
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: even in those conversations because of when you walk in

846
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: the building, you don't know what that time is going

847
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: to come. Now, before we take the next break, I

848
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: wanted to ask one more question. We've talked about the

849
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: secondary and will continue to do so, and yes, Earl

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Speaker 1: Thomas his name will come up in the next segment,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to ask one more thing about this

852
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853
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854
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Is that something that you say still see even with

855
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Speaker 1: maybe some of the question marks in the secondary what

856
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Speaker 1: we've seen back there, or is that just kind of

857
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Speaker 1: a testament to the amount of talent that they have

858
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859
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Speaker 1: they're wanting to have guys. Well, I think you know

860
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861
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862
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Speaker 1: that's not excessive. And I was just kind of going

863
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864
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Speaker 1: looking at the secondary guys. We talked about the versatility

865
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Speaker 1: you might be able to if everybody's healthy, that's that's

866
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Speaker 1: the key. But maybe go lighter in the secondary just

867
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Speaker 1: because they have so many guys that can play different spots.

868
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean. Maurice Linguists, the new DB's coach along with

869
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870
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871
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: don't play safety or corner exclusively. Now. I think there's

872
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: probably some exceptions there, but the point is they want

873
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874
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Speaker 1: what they do at the end of the day in

875
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876
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Speaker 1: there's still plenty of tough decisions to be made. But

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878
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879
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880
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881
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883
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884
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934
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Speaker 1: But guys, I was reading an article yesterday and you, guys,

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Speaker 1: He wrote a twenty Contenders article and there Achilles heel

939
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Speaker 1: for each of the twenty contenders, and the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: a part of the twenty contenders, and he put the

941
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys Achilles heel as cornerback and he said the expected

942
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: starter was Jordan Lewis at the cornerback spot. Now, of

943
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: course he could have named a couple of guys there,

944
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: but he said Jordan Lewis is the top cornerback at

945
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: the moment and that that spot is the Achilles heel.

946
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: And I kind of looked at it and I thought

947
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, you know, sure it's

948
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: a question mark spot, but is it really the number

949
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: one Achilles heel for the Dallas Cowboys, and heck will

950
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: start with you, do you agree or do you disagree?

951
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: And if you disagree, who what is that Achilles heel? Well,

952
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: one of the things I have to say is that

953
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: way to go out on a Lambarnwell and point out

954
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: that our Achilles hill is the cornerback position cloud. He

955
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: had to do some extensive research to put that article together, right,

956
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I find I sense some sarcasm and you're being facetious

957
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: a twinge, Um, but I don't. But but Kyle, I disagree.

958
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: And the reason why I disagree with that is because

959
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: of the way that we have showed up our defensive line.

960
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: I think it's safety. I really do. I believe that

961
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: safety has been our Achilles hill for a very long time,

962
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: and it has plagued us in some really big games.

963
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: If you go back to Minnesota, if you go back

964
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: to the Green Bay game, heck, if you go back

965
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: to the Rams playoff loss from two three years ago,

966
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: it was our safeties that I mean, it got us burning,

967
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: and it was through the middle of the field. And

968
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: so now I feel like, with you know, our defensive tackles,

969
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: our linebackers, and hopefully bringing those safeties on a one

970
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: safety in particular, I feel like that's gonna solve your

971
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: issue at the cornerback position, because look, there are okay

972
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that are supported by great safeties that end up

973
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: looking good. And I just feel as though if you

974
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: have a guy like Digs, you know he's young, he's

975
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna give up some some some plays early on. But

976
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: I think that having that safety help behind him is

977
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: going to help that maturation process. Isah, I would have

978
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: to tell that gentleman, not so fast, my friend, Uh,

979
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: get get the corner that pencil exactly. Yeah, we're good

980
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: at corner. We're young at corner, but we do have

981
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: some some vets sprinkled in there, and we have two

982
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: great defensive back coaches um as well to teach them there.

983
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: That's not our Achilles Hill by any means. As HECKMA

984
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: just alluded to. Our front seven is nasty and make nasty,

985
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: as I would like to say. Um. And you know,

986
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to cover somebody for two and

987
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: a half seconds than it is to have to cover

988
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: them for four seconds. So I can tell you there's

989
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of corners who may not be cover corners

990
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden become really good in this

991
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: league when that front seven is nasty like we have so, Um,

992
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: that is definitely not Achilles Hill. They kills Hill, as

993
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: he said, is the safety position, Rob Go ahead and

994
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: give your agreed disagree, But then I've got to I've

995
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: got a rebuttal for mister Isaiah standback. What I would say, Well,

996
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that. Actually, I'm okay, let me ask.

997
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask the question back, are we really

998
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: sure this front seven is going to be nasty? Because

999
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions. Alden Smith hasn't played in

1000
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: five years, Everson Griffin's in a new system. Who's in

1001
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: the middle of this defensive line? Is it? Neville Gallimore

1002
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: is at Tristan Hill is a Tyrone Crawford. All three

1003
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: of those guys are question marks to me. Sure Tim

1004
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: Bords is a solid, solid choice. But is nasty the

1005
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: right word for this front seven? Yes, yes, it is that.

1006
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: Nasty is not the right word. Nasty? Okay, Nick nasty upfront? Okay,

1007
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: our line is stupid. Okay, it's it's it's ridiculous. Okay,

1008
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: it's absolutely stupid is a good word in this Contextum?

1009
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: So they are absolutely insane our linebackers are there's no

1010
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: weeks spite out our linebackers. Only thing you can say

1011
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: about our linebackers or if they get hurt, well, I

1012
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: mean that's the only that's all you can say, right,

1013
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: while yeah, yeah, but while they're healthy. There's some goons, right,

1014
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: We got three goons behind a whole slew of other

1015
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: goons right there. We don't even know who's gonna be

1016
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: in there at any point a time, any given time,

1017
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be rotating left and right. Guys are

1018
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fresh, Guys are vets, Guys got moves that

1019
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: we haven't even seen since Michael Jackson bad and they're

1020
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: still gonna be pulling those things out because they're not

1021
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: going to be out there every play. So our front

1022
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: seven is nice and shirt up our safety positions where

1023
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: we're weak. Right, we're talking about how how Xavier was

1024
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: twe tweaked this growing right and in the Blue and

1025
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: White Knight the other day, Right, that's been reported, So

1026
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: how fast does he come back from that? Who's behind him? Right,

1027
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: who's the sure fit after him? Right? So there's a

1028
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of questions there. You don't have that problem. We

1029
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: just law ever sing Griffin ever sing Griffin, we just

1030
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: lost and and we talked about it for a day,

1031
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: right why because our depth is so is so we

1032
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: have everything Griffin. What did I say? I'm so sorry problemize.

1033
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Jerry McCoy. We just lost McCoy and we're

1034
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: not even talking about it because we have guys like that,

1035
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: right that can step in and take his position and

1036
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: take his place. Um So, d line, we're good. For

1037
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: our linebackers, we need some more depth, but our starters

1038
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: are good. It's the safety position, all right, rab I

1039
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: would throw out first of all, I don't think corner

1040
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: is a weakness. I think the numbers are really good there.

1041
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: And treyvon Digs if he can make this much improvement

1042
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: in two weeks after no spring, if he continues this trajectory,

1043
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: then he's gonna play a lot and he's going to

1044
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: be successful as a rookie. I you know, I had

1045
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: reservations about a lot of rookies just not having the

1046
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: time they need, but he just continues to get more

1047
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: more confident. I mean, you can see it out there,

1048
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: and so that's really encouraging. I'll just throw out one

1049
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: name to help at the safety position. Potentially how about

1050
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: Daryl Worley? How about number two? Because I mentioned last

1051
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: segment how they feel like different guys can help at

1052
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: different spots in the secondary corner safety cross train, and

1053
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: Worley is. The more I watch him, he's played, he

1054
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: plays a lot of different spots if needed. He played

1055
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: safety last year late in the season for the Raiders.

1056
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: I think after they release Swearinger, I just the more

1057
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I watch him. I mentioned the numbers at corner and

1058
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to get, you know, a rotation in my

1059
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: mind if everybody's healthy. But he's a guy more I

1060
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: watched like, you got to find a spot for him.

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00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: So I wonder if he's part of that that thinking of,

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00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, if we do have an injury at safety

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00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: or just part of the overall rotation, maybe he gets

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00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: some work there. Who knows, But I just really I

1065
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: think that's a really underrated signing that they've made well.

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00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: And that's also kind of that's what we kind of

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00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: talked about in the offseason. It's that there are a

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00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: couple of those cornerback spots. And this is why I

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: thought this article was specifically intriguing to me because I

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00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: agree with you guys, I do think the safety spot

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00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: as the achilles heel of this defense and of the

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: team in general. And it's because I think the corner

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00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: spot has enough depth to where you can throw guys

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Speaker 1: back as silence and we let me, let me, let

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00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: me get in. I want to I want to bring

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00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: this up for I forget this point. Man. When you

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00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: talk about the safety's position. Also look at the NFC East, right,

1078
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: because that's what we want to do. We want to

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00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: win the NFC East. And the NFC East is full

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00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: of some really quality tight ends. Right when you look

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00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: at Philadelphia and what they have would arguably two of

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00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: the best in the league aside from the guy San

1083
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Francisco and Kansas City, but also in New York with Ingram,

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: that's tight end. Those guys are attacking the seam on

1085
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: everything that they an old joke and the way that

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00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: offenses that have evolved, you depend a lot on your safeties.

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00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: And so it's horton that the Cowboys get that position

1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: shored up so that we know going into those division

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00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: games that we have quality behind the linebackers to go

1090
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: man to man if we have to go to our

1091
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: nicol Lar don packages to trust one of our safeties

1092
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: and there's a really good cover corner out there on

1093
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: the street. I don't have to say his name again,

1094
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: but another man's trash is another man's treasure. Come on,

1095
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: be our treasure. I'm just saying, come on, guys, let's

1096
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: make it make sense sense. And here's where the debate

1097
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: comes back, because we're talking about moving corners back and

1098
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: we're depleting the depth that we have at that position,

1099
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: especially after a couple of guys have been banged up

1100
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: throughout training him Jordan Lewis, Xavier Woods. You also have

1101
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: Cheeto Lousier. All three of those guys have been banged

1102
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: up in the secondary, and you're moving guys back there.

1103
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: It's been reported about Reggie Robbinson moving back there. There's

1104
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: always the possibility of moving around Daryl Worley in that defense.

1105
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: I think with the injury to Xavier Woods, and I

1106
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: know the conversations we had last week about Earl Thomas

1107
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: and the free agent market and exactly where that stands

1108
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: now with the severity of Xavier Woods kind of being unknown,

1109
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: his injury being unknown at the point, I'm not there yet,

1110
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: but if it comes out where he's missing a couple

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00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: of weeks and there's a lag in the safety position.

1112
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be against I wouldn't be against going and

1113
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: trying to find a guy on the open market, most notably,

1114
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: his name might be Earl and end with Tom. I

1115
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna come around. Yeah, I still have

1116
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: my reservations because I still want to know what happened

1117
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. That's a top notch organization. It's a it's

1118
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: a benchmark organization that knows exactly how to have those

1119
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: players and personnel decisions. They make great decisions in the draft,

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00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: they do it in free agency all the time. They've

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: built from the ground up as a personnel department in Baltimore.

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00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: Why was it the decision made to not only by them,

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00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: but by their players as well, to say we need

1124
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: to get this guy out of here. I have my reservations.

1125
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: But now let's getting to the point where and I'll

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: ask you guys this question too, are the Cowboys getting

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: desperate at safety? Because I feel like that might be

1128
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: the case. I say, it gets what d Xavier Woods

1129
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be fine, right, I think he'll be fine, right, Yeah,

1130
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: I think And soft tissue injuries we've talked about those

1131
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: those happened, Those are gonna happen. They're gonna first week

1132
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: of the season, you guys are gonna see a ton

1133
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: of them. Um. But listen, Earl is the sure thing

1134
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys from the standpoint. I don't know

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00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: what the heck he's been going through here recently. I

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: hope that he gets you know, that he that he's

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: okay mentally, and all the other chances, whatever personal issues

1138
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: he has going on as affecting him in that regard,

1139
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: because the Earl that I know doesn't represent anything that

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: we've heard here as of late. So if that, if

1141
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: that earl is somewhere in him somewhere, then he is

1142
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: worth every risk that you can possibly take, because guess what,

1143
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: you can always cut him, right, You can always cut him.

1144
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: And that's why there's a reason why I don't want

1145
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: to throw too much speculation, but I'm gonna ahead and

1146
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: sprinkle it out there anyway. How many times does an

1147
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: all pro safety sit on the market this long? They don't.

1148
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: So when I talk about the fact that veterans, if

1149
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: there is any speculation in terms of his character right now,

1150
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: nobody wants to guarantee him a whole year. So what

1151
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: happens They wait till after the first week, get a season,

1152
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: and then what happens get him. Yeah, that's a that's

1153
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: a different it's not a difficult thing. And when I

1154
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: think about old tom So, I think about any quality safety,

1155
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I always think about a guy that played for the Cowboys,

1156
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Larry Brown. It's the Larry Brown, Larry Brown, m MVP

1157
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl in EP But in part because of

1158
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: what he had sitting behind him, Woodson, Washington, Everett, those

1159
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: safeties made it possible for a guy like Larry Brown

1160
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: to make a name in the NFL. And I think

1161
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: you get the same with a veteran with veteran with

1162
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: veteran leadership. And so that's when I think in my

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00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: imagination that if we could possibly pull this off, that's

1164
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: the kind of effect that I feel like him as

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00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: an acquisition would bring to our cornerback room. And also

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: and also call let's not forget about the fact that

1167
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: when players are unhappy, they would do whatever they know

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: is required to get out of a situation. Not saying

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: that that's what he did. I'm not saying that that's

1170
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: what he did. I think he required. That's another story

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: that we don't need to talk about anyways, Rob, what's

1172
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: your what's your feel on that? I'm just listening to

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: the man, Jerry Jones. If he doesn't close the door,

1174
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to close the door. So we'll

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00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: see what happens. And again, injuries happened. So the look

1176
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: of your position might be good one day and it

1177
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: can vastly change the next day. So uh, but you know,

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: there's not a I can't think of a more accomplished

1179
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: player in the last few years. It's just sitting out there.

1180
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: So it is unusual. And I would just say TVD. Yeah. Well,

1181
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: and Jerry said TVD this morning on one or five

1182
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: point three the fan, he said, it's misleading to say

1183
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: that we have had those conversations, But it's also misleading

1184
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: to say that we have not, which is about as

1185
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: riding the fence as you can potentially get on a

1186
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: certain situation. But that's where they stand right now as

1187
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: it comes to Earl Thomas. So guys, we've got to

1188
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: get out of here. Our time is up, which is

1189
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: crazy because I could have talked. I could have talked

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01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: like this like every day this week throughout how about

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01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: let's how about let's do that next week. Let's talk

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: about this every day nine thirty starting on Tuesday. How's

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: that sound to you. So we'll be back here on

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys next Tuesday, nine thirty am. Be sure to

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01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,439
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