Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rev An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. Yes, and we have
Speaker 1: a special guest today that is very much in the
Speaker 1: center of what everybody is talking about because she is
Speaker 1: an American TV personality. She's a podcast host, a fashion blogger,
Speaker 1: a model, and she's an author. She's actually a two
Speaker 1: time New York Times best selling author, so I'm excited
Speaker 1: to ask her about that. And she is best known
Speaker 1: for starring on Bravo's reality TV series Vanderpunk Rules. She
Speaker 1: got married to her prince charming beau Clark back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. She has an adorable two year old daughter,
Speaker 1: and she's expecting her second baby. She really does it all.
Speaker 1: Please help us welcome the one and only Stas Schroeder Clark. Hello.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you didn't know Tanya. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think we've met properly before, but I know of you,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited to be here, so thank you
Speaker 1: for having me here. We're so excited, I mean all,
Speaker 1: I have never known so much about Vander pump Rolls
Speaker 1: than I do right now. Yes, at this very moment,
Speaker 1: just like I think my unborn child knows all about
Speaker 1: scannable right now. Yes, while yeah, scandabal well that's what
Speaker 1: everybody's Oh wow, sorry I'm behind. Um, well, congratulations you
Speaker 1: just announced your pregnancy. Yes, thank you so much. Are
Speaker 1: you having like differences like in just like between this
Speaker 1: one the in the first you know what? Not? Really
Speaker 1: I had a pretty easy pregnancy the first time, except
Speaker 1: I was just like maybe a little depressed because I
Speaker 1: was stuck at home. It was during COVID twenty was
Speaker 1: a rough year for everyone, and so like I felt
Speaker 1: very isolated. Um, all my symptoms in are the same,
Speaker 1: but this time I just feel really excited that I
Speaker 1: can like walk out of my house curiously, you know,
Speaker 1: in my car, go do things, just like go out
Speaker 1: to dinner. As a pregnant person is fun and new.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're like very different experience than the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty pregnancy. Yeah, so now I have fomo like a
Speaker 1: ton more. Like I highly recommend being pregnant, you know,
Speaker 1: during a pandemic, because like there's no missing out on
Speaker 1: anything and everyone else is at home. But is it
Speaker 1: because are you just tired more tired and you like
Speaker 1: don't want to go out? No, it's just that, like,
Speaker 1: do I really want to go out like late at
Speaker 1: night to something when I can't drink, I can't let loose.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'd rather be tucked into bed, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot with no pregnancy would rather be touched
Speaker 1: often correct, And you think that, but like when it's
Speaker 1: like totally just like taken off the table for you,
Speaker 1: like you don't have a choice, you can't drink alcohol
Speaker 1: and like you have fun, then it just becomes a
Speaker 1: little harder to deal with because it wasn't your choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a choice.
Speaker 1: I still have the choice of, you know, if I
Speaker 1: want to rage or not. Yeah. I just drank the
Speaker 1: other night, and I'm like, I'm never drinking again. I
Speaker 1: felt terrible yesterday. So I'll be on that for like
Speaker 1: a week or two. Then I'll be back at it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm still on it. I'm still on my like no
Speaker 1: alcohol thing. How long have you gone? Well, so it's
Speaker 1: like not really no alcohol. I was like day limited alcohol.
Speaker 1: So before I would drink every day, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the dinner, I'd have wine and things like that.
Speaker 1: Of course I miss it. So now I'm doing it
Speaker 1: only on special occasions, which feels like I'm not drinking anymore.
Speaker 1: I think that's just like super healthy of you. I
Speaker 1: mean the hashtag balance, thank you. That's where I'm very
Speaker 1: I'm a very balanced girly right now. When you like
Speaker 1: think about your like beginning, vander Pump rules day and
Speaker 1: now you see your life now, are you like? Who
Speaker 1: is that person? No? Real talk all the time. No really,
Speaker 1: especially because I feel like it's it's having like a
Speaker 1: little renaissance right now. Yer Pump rolls. So a whole
Speaker 1: new wave of people are watching from the beginning, and
Speaker 1: I kind of like shudder a little bit and just
Speaker 1: get so embarrassed because those people who are watching don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm like now, and so much has changed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was twenty three back then. I'm thirty
Speaker 1: four now and my life is very different. It's it's
Speaker 1: just wild when people message me thinking that what they're
Speaker 1: watching in season one right now is who I am, right,
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Where do you think that shift came from?
Speaker 1: Just like years? I think aging, But you know, like again,
Speaker 1: I was twenty three years old, so I had to
Speaker 1: you know, that's eleven years to grow up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But also I mean, I think stepping away from Vanner
Speaker 1: pump rolls, I got married, I had a baby, and
Speaker 1: not that I chose to step away, but meaning like, um,
Speaker 1: not being on it for so long, you have to
Speaker 1: find a way to not miss it. You have to
Speaker 1: find a way to say goodbye, and like with that
Speaker 1: comes leading a totally different lifestyle. And you know, hitting
Speaker 1: like what you feel like is like a rock bottom moment,
Speaker 1: like it really does make you like shifty and everything
Speaker 1: about your life. That is funny thing about people watching
Speaker 1: it from the beginning now and they're like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you said that that was weird eleven years ago.
Speaker 1: It is interesting because I feel like we talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot, and like we all kind of like
Speaker 1: attach ourselves to something, whether it's our career or a
Speaker 1: relationship or something. Right, so like you, you you attach
Speaker 1: yourself to van Erpunt rules. When when that ends, you
Speaker 1: have this sort of like existential moment where you're just
Speaker 1: like who am I? What am I? And who do
Speaker 1: I want to be? If you feel like that kind
Speaker 1: of made you shift? And then also like did it
Speaker 1: make you kind of now change your views on how
Speaker 1: you're going to attach yourself to things moving forward. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I mean I was forced to like just
Speaker 1: look at my life and look at who I am,
Speaker 1: and what do I value, what do I stand for?
Speaker 1: And now that I'm you know, at that point I
Speaker 1: had you know, I didn't have Vanner pump rolls to
Speaker 1: keep me in that sort of lifestyle. Like it really
Speaker 1: was the world is technically my oyster for me to
Speaker 1: make decisions based on what I want. And you really
Speaker 1: do like a lot of like soul searching to figure
Speaker 1: out what your priorities are. And you know, having a
Speaker 1: kid that changes you no matter what. You're like no
Speaker 1: longer living for yourself. Like I look back and I'm
Speaker 1: just like that's so funny, like rip, like waking up
Speaker 1: and just like thinking what do I want? And when
Speaker 1: you have a kid, you're happy to do it, like
Speaker 1: you're happy not to live for yourself. But with like
Speaker 1: living for somebody else comes just like priority shifts, and
Speaker 1: then along with priority shifts, then like what you're interested
Speaker 1: in shifts, and so then therefore like where you go,
Speaker 1: the things you do, that all changes and you kind
Speaker 1: of just like become somebody else, whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not? Yeah, when you what year was it that
Speaker 1: you left in or pump rolls um twenty twenty, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty yeah, And then so when when that happened, was
Speaker 1: there a sense of like, oh my gosh, I just
Speaker 1: lost this um like group of people are like being
Speaker 1: involved in this like world that like did you feel
Speaker 1: like you needed to get the gossip and like what
Speaker 1: was going on? Or did you feel like you were
Speaker 1: able to fully remove yourself? Now I tried. I tried
Speaker 1: to stay away from it for a really long time,
Speaker 1: like that was what was most healthy for me. And
Speaker 1: even now, like it's been kind of hard, not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to like see all of this vander pump Rolls
Speaker 1: stuff come up and it's everywhere, and I'm DMed about
Speaker 1: it all day long, like I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: weigh in. I'm gonna need you to weigh in, and
Speaker 1: and like at first I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: like interesting and crazy that this is happening, and then
Speaker 1: it kind of was like I'm having a little like
Speaker 1: triggered moment where I'm like, God, I used to live
Speaker 1: in this world for so long and now I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not even being paid for this, and I'm living
Speaker 1: like this is unfair. It is unfair when you heard
Speaker 1: the news where you like, oh my gosh, I can't
Speaker 1: forget where I was. Where We were literally at my
Speaker 1: house and I have been cleaning out my closet because
Speaker 1: I'm turning my like my extra room into a nursery obviously,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, well, I have to get rid
Speaker 1: of like half the stuff that I own, like I
Speaker 1: don't have that much space for it. So we were
Speaker 1: literally photographing my clothes that I'm like going to give
Speaker 1: away or sell. And I was like, holy, holy holy,
Speaker 1: And that's that's where I was. I'll tell my grandchildren
Speaker 1: wait for Okay, can you watch Friends at all? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously I don't watch it like religiously, but you know
Speaker 1: the gist. Yeah, could you explain the vander Pump rules
Speaker 1: obsession drama through the eye of the Friends cast? Do
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying? That sounds like something like
Speaker 1: a professor would ask his class. I don't even know
Speaker 1: where to Friends because it was hard for me to
Speaker 1: understand because I was to me, I couldn't keep up
Speaker 1: with the Vanderpump Rules. So like so and so is
Speaker 1: Ross and so and so. Yeah. So I'm like, but
Speaker 1: why do we, like, why are we not more mad
Speaker 1: at this guy because he had a girlfriend and the
Speaker 1: girl didn't have a Well, we are mad at the guy. Oh.
Speaker 1: I felt like the girl's getting a lot more because
Speaker 1: the girl always does, which every situation in the world,
Speaker 1: the girl always does get annoy he but no, Tom
Speaker 1: is the bad guy? Okay, okay? Has he always been?
Speaker 1: Has that undertone been there? Like the potential of him
Speaker 1: to be this person was. I think you should start
Speaker 1: over and you should commit to Vanner Pump Rules and
Speaker 1: watch him season one and you'll see for yourself because
Speaker 1: I always felt like it was there. I mean, he
Speaker 1: never liked me, so we always yeah. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: kind of like to me when I saw this happen,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I knew it, Like, yeah, I knew it.
Speaker 1: You're always pointing the finger at other people, You're always
Speaker 1: always like a potster. It's not that he's a potster.
Speaker 1: He just loves to hold everyone else accountable for things
Speaker 1: and like things that like, you know, seven years ago,
Speaker 1: you were constantly dark passagering, like you need to be
Speaker 1: held accountable for that. It's like he was always holding
Speaker 1: people accountable for weird and so now it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that someone does when they're
Speaker 1: the ones that should be being held accountable for something
Speaker 1: like much more grave. That's true, like when you're always
Speaker 1: like pointing out what other people are doing and you're
Speaker 1: like never at fault. That's a red fly. Right yeah,
Speaker 1: but did did any like they were together for nine years? Right,
Speaker 1: like yeah, Arianna and Tom and so all, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it is. Well, I'm like I see all their names
Speaker 1: and I'm like, who's who, and it's strucu. The friends
Speaker 1: exercise I thought would be very helpful confuse me even
Speaker 1: more like that. No, think about it. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like Ross and Rachel being together, or no, let's do
Speaker 1: Monica Chandler because they were more stable Monica and Chandler
Speaker 1: being together. And then we always said that, like Katie
Speaker 1: and Tomer, Monica and Chanler. It's just so funny to
Speaker 1: hear you say the friends reference because like since the
Speaker 1: beginning we used that reference, but now the cast has
Speaker 1: changed that we would the same the same way that
Speaker 1: like the same pairing doesn't exist anymore, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I would say that like Tom and arian are
Speaker 1: like the Chandler and the Monica and Chandler's Tom and
Speaker 1: he just hooked up with Phoebe Phoebe, I mean no,
Speaker 1: didn't hook up. They've been having an affair. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: no there, Like I'm sorry, but I just have seen
Speaker 1: tiktoks of him and like him performing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was a singer or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I have the worst itch, So I can't believe that
Speaker 1: Raquel is with him, like like that's my man, and
Speaker 1: I'm as stick beside him. How I don't know? Um,
Speaker 1: so when when they got together, we're are you friends
Speaker 1: with Arianna? And we're like, who's like the friend? Like
Speaker 1: who are your friends from the show? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: we were all friendly with each other and Tom No,
Speaker 1: but like we were, we were all we hung out
Speaker 1: in the same group, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: it's a really aub weird web, this like group of
Speaker 1: friends and like what it is? Um? I mean Katie
Speaker 1: Maloney is is one of my best friends. She's the
Speaker 1: godmother to my child. She was my maid of honor.
Speaker 1: Like she's like I adore her. Um, but I'm friends
Speaker 1: with like some of them, but not really all of them.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like kind of I've been out
Speaker 1: of it for so long too, so I've kind of
Speaker 1: just stayed friends the people that i've three years is
Speaker 1: a long time, girls, world, Yeah, it's a long time.
Speaker 1: And when you're trying to like take a break from
Speaker 1: a to If I'm not going to be paid to
Speaker 1: be on this show, why am I going to like
Speaker 1: insert myself with when like half the cast I don't
Speaker 1: really get along with as like real friends, So why
Speaker 1: would be Yeah, why would I be there? You know,
Speaker 1: like the group? Hey, guys, I know it's been a minute.
Speaker 1: How's everyone doing anything new happening? Would you imagine I've
Speaker 1: been offline for a minute, just chucking it? Yes, it's dassie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wow. The I guess when you are the
Speaker 1: two like most hated people, like, it's easy to stick together,
Speaker 1: right because you're like, who else am I gonna? Well?
Speaker 1: I I mean I personally feel like they have to
Speaker 1: stick together. Like if I was there publicist, like I
Speaker 1: would be like, what's gonna happen now? Is you guys
Speaker 1: are going to get married? You're gonna have a baby,
Speaker 1: because like honestly, like really like does like you can't
Speaker 1: hate on a baby, like no one can hate on
Speaker 1: a baby. You guys are gonna go do charity work
Speaker 1: in another country for a good year and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna come back. Like that's that's what I would tell
Speaker 1: them to do it. They have to get married, now,
Speaker 1: you know what? I do want your take on that
Speaker 1: I found so fascinating. Do you did you say the
Speaker 1: TMZ video that Raquel she was like in front of
Speaker 1: a nail. So I saw that, and then I saw
Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt. I know I saw that. Dude. This is
Speaker 1: what's so annoying. Again, It's like, I'm not getting paid
Speaker 1: for this yet every time I go on TikTok, my
Speaker 1: whole algorithm, I have to like quickly get out, Like
Speaker 1: I can't watch anything vanderpump Rolls otherwise TikTok's gonna know
Speaker 1: that I watched it and then only show me vanderpump
Speaker 1: Rolls and like, get have it, get out of it.
Speaker 1: But Spencer I had to watch because I think he's
Speaker 1: so funny. I don't know if you saw it, but
Speaker 1: basically Spencer was saying I didn't want to step in.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything. But she has to
Speaker 1: go and get this coincidental TMZ video outside of the
Speaker 1: nail salon where she's looking, you know, not her best,
Speaker 1: and he was like, basically, you screwed yourself out of
Speaker 1: your contract for next year because she gave all that
Speaker 1: like spilled and it was like kind of uninteresting, but
Speaker 1: she kind of spilled and spoke to like this TMZ
Speaker 1: camera when the reunion was that night. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: will say I could not agree with everything he said more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was weird. Why but why would she do that? Um?
Speaker 1: I feel like I know and I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know why does anyone? No one's I'm not under a contract? Okay,
Speaker 1: well I know, um because it was paid so like
Speaker 1: she worked with so she got paid for it. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what Spencer alluded to pay for that
Speaker 1: though like TMZ, I don't know whether it was TA
Speaker 1: I don't think it was, but honestly that would be genuine.
Speaker 1: Um yeah no, but that I don't know why she
Speaker 1: thought that that would be in her best interest when
Speaker 1: I would think that keeping her job on this show
Speaker 1: would be in her best interests. So maybe the money
Speaker 1: outweighed Maybe they paid her a ton more to do
Speaker 1: that than they would even for another year contract. Um doubt.
Speaker 1: I doubt it. Really, it's that much like she's like,
Speaker 1: this is my this is how much. I mean They're
Speaker 1: like okay, no, no, yeah, but I mean I would
Speaker 1: imagine um that like Bravo's angries because the reunion was
Speaker 1: literally the next day and yeah to go. And it
Speaker 1: was so obvious that that that was planned because I
Speaker 1: every week, we all kind of know what it's like.
Speaker 1: Of course, pap Rozzi are following her so like they
Speaker 1: could catch her where. She like that absolutely, but normally
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm sorry, I can't really talk right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have to go, Like I'm sorry, Like right,
Speaker 1: you have that option, yeah, you don't have to sit there, right.
Speaker 1: I found it so odd. I'm like watching it, like
Speaker 1: what is going on? I was like, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in the twilights though. It was it was really strange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very strange. It felt like she was doing like a
Speaker 1: sit down interview, but I'm sitting down on a curb.
Speaker 1: It was so weird. It was weird. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: here's a little I'll give you a little something so
Speaker 1: you can post it. It's like I'm gonna give you everything.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sit and shot. I know. I feel like
Speaker 1: at some point the photographers parted like okay are you Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just feel like with her apologies, do you feel
Speaker 1: like they were sincere? But do you do you have
Speaker 1: an opinion on her as a person? Not really, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know her that well, so whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: have an opinion on her either. So the sincerity you
Speaker 1: you You're just like, yeah, probably the thing is m
Speaker 1: was just a post, so like, how can you judge? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the sincerity of something. And I mean in seeing her,
Speaker 1: you know in that video was was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't really know her. Yeah, yeah, it was icky.
Speaker 1: It was icky. I was like that Spencer private. It
Speaker 1: really got me thinking. I was like, yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: seen someone have a full conversation like that and answering
Speaker 1: every question. No, never, I agree. Yeah, Um, I do
Speaker 1: want to switch to the topic really quick, because you
Speaker 1: have two of something under your belt that I've been
Speaker 1: really wanting my whole life, a New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 1: and I want to know how it feels to be
Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller. Um, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: it feels great, Like it really does. Like at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like I know how lucky I
Speaker 1: am to be in this position because I was on
Speaker 1: this show for so long. But then it's like anyone
Speaker 1: can put something out anyone else, anyone can put out
Speaker 1: a book or put out a podcast, and to see
Speaker 1: that it's received so well and it does so well,
Speaker 1: like that makes me feel like I'm not here just
Speaker 1: because of luck. Yeah, And so that gives me a
Speaker 1: greater sense of purpose. I gotta tell you, going through
Speaker 1: the process, I have so much more respect for people
Speaker 1: that write books now, Like I always knew it was hard,
Speaker 1: and I always thought it was hard, but like going
Speaker 1: through the actual process, I'm like, kudos to you and
Speaker 1: the fact that you did it twice. Oh no, it
Speaker 1: sucks you. And I'm working on my third one. It
Speaker 1: sucks your soul, it really does. And then you second
Speaker 1: guess everything, and then you also you grow and you change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, actually I want to change that, or
Speaker 1: like I don't feel that way anymore, but I did
Speaker 1: feel that way at a moment in time, So like
Speaker 1: should I keep it there? It's like a time capsule,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then it just keeps you awake
Speaker 1: at night. It's it's stressful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's totally
Speaker 1: a mind trip. I will say that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's like also, and I feel like maybe you
Speaker 1: feel the same way. It's like, you work in entertainment,
Speaker 1: so you you know, you're constantly posting and sharing up.
Speaker 1: But something about being in a book feel so permanent. Yes, truly,
Speaker 1: like so finite. It's it's there, it's done. You have
Speaker 1: to answer for it. It's it's not like, oh, well
Speaker 1: I said that on a reality show or I said
Speaker 1: that on a podcast, but like did I mean it? No,
Speaker 1: you thought about everything that you've written over it, and
Speaker 1: you've checked it again and other people have checked it
Speaker 1: AGAs well. Which are you writing a third book now?
Speaker 1: I am? When's that one coming out? Well? I'm working
Speaker 1: on it right now. Okay, so no, the date is TBD,
Speaker 1: TVD yes, And what's it going to be about? I
Speaker 1: kind of don't want to get into it. I no, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it because it's it's
Speaker 1: at the early stages, like the really early stages. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's like not totally conceptualized. No, Well, in my yes,
Speaker 1: in my brain it is. It's still a how it's
Speaker 1: still in the same format, it's the same type of
Speaker 1: how to book, like a basic bitch how to book,
Speaker 1: but it's it's something that I don't feel like people
Speaker 1: would expect from me, like a how to thing. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, honestly, if I'm gonna announce, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be on my podcast, not y'all. I was like, give
Speaker 1: it to us, to us, give us up that headline, QUI, Um,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about you, um, your husband, and
Speaker 1: how y'all met, because when you actually you know, we
Speaker 1: we know, you know, how we have a connection. Are
Speaker 1: Louisiana roots? Yeah? Wait, hold on, it's my first boyfriend. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: my first boyfriend, Brock. That's how. How was that? How
Speaker 1: we met at? Like I think we met at an
Speaker 1: event or something and somehow we started talking about it
Speaker 1: and we really like a connection. He went to high school.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you dated him too. I was like,
Speaker 1: WHOA so crazy? Like how small the world? I know?
Speaker 1: But um, I was going to ask you about when
Speaker 1: you met bo, Like, was there a moment when y'all
Speaker 1: met that you were like, oh my gosh, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the guy. No oh no, honestly, and
Speaker 1: I think that this is its something that's like important
Speaker 1: to talk about because so many of my friends, like
Speaker 1: who were still single, they they're like, oh, well, I
Speaker 1: met this person, but I don't have that like feeling
Speaker 1: or like I mean, I had that feeling of being
Speaker 1: attracted to him. But we dated very casually for about
Speaker 1: six months. Like I did everything differently with him that
Speaker 1: I had done before. Like I feel like every other
Speaker 1: relationship I had it was like we met it's passionate,
Speaker 1: it has to be passionate, or like it's not the
Speaker 1: right thing, and it was so intense, and every single
Speaker 1: relationship I had before him was so unhealthy. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to take everything slow and and I really just
Speaker 1: like got to know him as a person and I
Speaker 1: didn't put any pressure on it. And then eventually, like
Speaker 1: after we decided to like commit ourselves to each other,
Speaker 1: I was just like, God, like, this is my best friend.
Speaker 1: Like it's not just like chemistry, it's not it's not
Speaker 1: just like oh, like I just want to like hook
Speaker 1: up with him. I did. I wanted all those things,
Speaker 1: but like he became my best friend, and I felt
Speaker 1: like that was the moment that was when I really
Speaker 1: was like I can see my life with him, because
Speaker 1: like we would that that friendship is there, that respect
Speaker 1: is there, that like if all else goes away, we
Speaker 1: still have that foundation. Yeah. Yeah, I do think it's
Speaker 1: important to talk about because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times I will say when I met my girlfriend it
Speaker 1: was like this, it was like instant like and that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that a lot of people wait for
Speaker 1: that and they're like they go on one date or
Speaker 1: two dates and they're like, oh, it's not this immediate thing,
Speaker 1: and they write someone off where it's like it might
Speaker 1: be a slow burn and it might be that like
Speaker 1: you are building a foundation that's deeper than like immediate
Speaker 1: like lust or passion or whatever it is. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's so important. Again, it's like, oh, my
Speaker 1: friends say that they complain about that that well, I
Speaker 1: don't know. We've only been on a couple of dates.
Speaker 1: But like I'm like, just give it a few more chances,
Speaker 1: like really try and get to know this person. Like
Speaker 1: you never know, like you really never know. Do everything
Speaker 1: differently than what you've done before. That's true. Patterns. Patterns
Speaker 1: are the they're the worst but they're hard to break.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people just like going to the
Speaker 1: pattern that they're hard to break. Those patterns no where
Speaker 1: they are. I get it. I get it. Would you
Speaker 1: ever go on a reality show again? Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 1: I think it's like in my blood. I just feel
Speaker 1: like I've done it for so long. I mean that's
Speaker 1: where I met Brock, my first boyfriend. I was like
Speaker 1: on The Amazing Race when I was sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I just like haven't stopped since, so like I
Speaker 1: don't really know anything anything else. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 1: done it in three years, but I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like riding a bike. So yeah, if the situation was right,
Speaker 1: I think so. I totally forgot about The Amazing Race
Speaker 1: and I just didn't I was so ugly, and so
Speaker 1: during COVID we got into like I guess we watched
Speaker 1: a season and we're like, there's so many of these seasons,
Speaker 1: let's just go watch them. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I had a family friend that was on the show,
Speaker 1: so we watched. I was like, oh my god, all
Speaker 1: babies on the show. No. I was like, so want
Speaker 1: to be goth, but wouldn't fully commit to it. So
Speaker 1: it was like half in, half out. You couldn't it
Speaker 1: was no, not the vibe, not the vibe. What would
Speaker 1: be your dream show to be on? You know? I
Speaker 1: have y'all watched Special Forces? It's on, Yes, I told
Speaker 1: you about that. It's like an army like military show
Speaker 1: where they like, like what you're talking? I could see you. No, no,
Speaker 1: no way, that wouldn't be the one that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like that character. I have some you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been thirty four years of building character. Enough character, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: what show would you if you were like, oh, that
Speaker 1: would be a really such a dream show would be
Speaker 1: like Stanley Jucci show Finding Italy. That's what it's called, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I could just go travel and like try food,
Speaker 1: try food, like learn about and even if it wasn't
Speaker 1: just food, it's like, well, I love Italy. My hu
Speaker 1: has been is a dual citizen, so he he has
Speaker 1: a right, so he has an Italian citizen citizenship, and
Speaker 1: so my daughter will I have to like whatever? Yeah me,
Speaker 1: but like I would just love to go and live
Speaker 1: my life, like exploring Italy with my family and and
Speaker 1: just like learning about everything. And if that could be filmed, cool,
Speaker 1: that would be like a dream show. Bravo. Are you listening? Yeah, Bravo,
Speaker 1: who fired me? Are you listening? Art for Sauce, a
Speaker 1: tourism food trying show with the fam Wholesome Wholesome Show.
Speaker 1: We're bringing some wholesome stuff to Bravo, No beca. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I've realized ever since I watched the
Speaker 1: Megan and Harry documentary. Oh no, I am no. I
Speaker 1: love Megan and Harry. One of those okay, one of
Speaker 1: those people. Okay, But what I realized after watching it
Speaker 1: was like I am starved for wholesome television. Like I
Speaker 1: am like it's all so just like backstabby and just
Speaker 1: like women fighting and just like taking each other down.
Speaker 1: And I'm like every moment that I saw them with
Speaker 1: Archie or I just saw them just like loved up,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I'm starving to watch this, Like
Speaker 1: I want to see this on my screen. I want
Speaker 1: more wholesome TV. I want to watch it come to
Speaker 1: my house. We watched a lot of wholesome tells. Where's
Speaker 1: It TLC? Yeah, no, next Level Chef, I watched Crime
Speaker 1: Scene Kitchen, I watch What's the Physical one hundred um.
Speaker 1: We watched The Mole. That's more like, I haven't heard
Speaker 1: of any of the shows you just listed the one
Speaker 1: the one she didn't list that is her main one
Speaker 1: is low Okay, that's not wholesome. It's not Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not wholesome. That's why didn't mention it, but to say,
Speaker 1: like Lego Masters, I also watched Legs also like dumb
Speaker 1: is it cake? Which cake? Um? So yeah, just come
Speaker 1: on over. I can give you a whole list of
Speaker 1: what do you have because you have host your own podcast,
Speaker 1: is there any like would you want to host? Like
Speaker 1: is there anything interesting too in that to you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy hosting, but I'm kind of just taking
Speaker 1: my career like one step at a time. I think
Speaker 1: one thing I learned over the last three years is
Speaker 1: is that I don't have to like have a hand
Speaker 1: in everything. I'd be Like before twenty twenty, it was
Speaker 1: like what more can I do? What more can I do?
Speaker 1: Like this brand deal, touring, now, this this It was
Speaker 1: just like everything all at once, and life doesn't really
Speaker 1: have to be that way. So I kind of just
Speaker 1: like take one thing at a time and like hope
Speaker 1: that I'm doing a really good job of it and
Speaker 1: just like slowly let things unfold, like's hosting fun? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it like my ultimate dream? I'm not sure, but
Speaker 1: like if the right thing happened or came, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe yeah. Yeah, you just announced your tour they did.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about doing that whilst pregnant? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's I'm honestly most excited. I excited for that.
Speaker 1: So at first I put off getting pregnant because I
Speaker 1: knew that I wanted to tour the Spring and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is horrible, but like, but we love
Speaker 1: drinking so many apple sprits and we're on tour. It's
Speaker 1: like a party, Like, you know, my husband's there, my
Speaker 1: best friend Taylor, she tours with us because she opens
Speaker 1: for me, and so like it's it's just really fun
Speaker 1: to be touring. And I'm like, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: What if I get pregnant. I got pregnant, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, Like, no, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a whole new experience this time. And I feel
Speaker 1: way more motivated than I was the last time that
Speaker 1: I toured, and I feel like I'm just excited to
Speaker 1: challenge myself and like to be able to say like
Speaker 1: I did it, prig it not pregnant, but doing our
Speaker 1: live shows with a little a little drinking us too,
Speaker 1: so I get of course, yeah it's fun. I had
Speaker 1: a moment a couple of weeks ago where I went
Speaker 1: to a show and it was like really late and
Speaker 1: I didn't drink at all, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: had a great time, did you? I can't see? That
Speaker 1: makes me so excited because I think there's like this
Speaker 1: this idea that we have to have that buzz or
Speaker 1: whatever to like enjoy idea. It's like the fact for me.
Speaker 1: For me personally, I'd like to calm down the nerves
Speaker 1: because I do get really nervous before every show, Like
Speaker 1: I can't talk to anyone, you know. I know lots
Speaker 1: of people that tour and they're like, come to my
Speaker 1: green room before the show, and it's like a bunch
Speaker 1: of people. I'm like, how the fuck are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Like before I go on stage, I'm like, no one
Speaker 1: talked to me. I'm like, I get nervous because I
Speaker 1: really care. Yeah, and so like drinking April spritzes or
Speaker 1: like some rose like that helps. So now I'm just
Speaker 1: I can't do that. Ye, maybe a mocktail and you're
Speaker 1: like placebo effect kicks. No, mocktails are so lam just
Speaker 1: on the best mocktail, it's like wasted calories. I'd rather
Speaker 1: eat some cake too, What about cake with a mocktail? No?
Speaker 1: Okay no, But do you like being pregnant? I thought no,
Speaker 1: I so so I thought I did, like before I
Speaker 1: got pregnant again. I think you just forget that you
Speaker 1: don't like it truly. Yeah, like right now, last night
Speaker 1: I said to my husband and I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is so like not the vibe, and like I
Speaker 1: can't wait to not feel like this again. But what's
Speaker 1: the feeling? I think it's just like the not having
Speaker 1: control over your body and like watching it just change
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and and like well, like I know,
Speaker 1: you know, my husband still thinks I'm beautiful no matter what,
Speaker 1: and all that it's not my version of how I
Speaker 1: like to look, and and that's just really hard to
Speaker 1: deal with. And like I'm hungry all the time, and
Speaker 1: it's like so it's like I can't deny this baby food.
Speaker 1: You can't like diet, you can't. It's just a weird
Speaker 1: It messes with your mind to like not have control
Speaker 1: over your body. Yeah, well it's just not yours, Like
Speaker 1: it's not all just based on what you want now
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're literally keeping this thing alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like getting dressed every day and then you
Speaker 1: know you're constipated and then like it's just like all
Speaker 1: of these things. That's it's a thing. Just like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a thing that I complain about a lot,
Speaker 1: Like it's a lot not everyone. We all like, I
Speaker 1: don't get sick. I've never thrown up because I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: Like I've never that hasn't been my journey. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like constipation has been a journey. That's not a journey
Speaker 1: that I I've heard like after giving birth, like through
Speaker 1: if you're like you know the medications and stuff, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know what happened during this part. That's how
Speaker 1: have you seen the girl at the list on TikTok
Speaker 1: of like reasons why I won't be having a baby
Speaker 1: And she'll see a TikTok and then stitch it and
Speaker 1: write it down on her because it'll be like that.
Speaker 1: It'll be like you can tear up to your buttle
Speaker 1: and she's like add it to the that's funny. No,
Speaker 1: TikTok hasn't served me that pump rolls right now? Well,
Speaker 1: say mine is that? And you know my dog one
Speaker 1: of Paltrow. Yeah, oh I'm so into that right now.
Speaker 1: Right now, I just want to like say to everyone
Speaker 1: every time I talk to someone and just be like, well,
Speaker 1: I lost half a day skiing, so I lost half
Speaker 1: Dave skiing the next time anything goes wrong, but I
Speaker 1: lost half a Dames. Yeah, it was very into it.
Speaker 1: I cannot stop watching her in the witness stand. So
Speaker 1: you're like watching it the way I watched Amber Heard
Speaker 1: and Johnny Dupp. Yes, okay, Like I was in a
Speaker 1: in the car, like we were driving to like pump
Speaker 1: Springs or something, and I literally had to have my
Speaker 1: phone watching it live, like the whole entire trip. So
Speaker 1: it's only when she's in the witness stand. I'm not
Speaker 1: so keen on the other people. Yeah, just her. She's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. I mean she's funny, like seeing her in
Speaker 1: that position. Yeah, weird. The lawyer off here the questions,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was strange, very strange. Um do you
Speaker 1: have any opinions of um just hot topics that have
Speaker 1: come up? Harry styles and em Rada. Have you seen
Speaker 1: the video? Yes, of course I was in the video.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: on your feed. Oh that's on my feed. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's on my feed. Um how to say? I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a good match. No interesting, No one likes it.
Speaker 1: No one likes it. I can see that in the
Speaker 1: comment section. No I like it, but you know, he
Speaker 1: he um. She was his celebrity crush and that's what
Speaker 1: makes me like it even more. It's like, okay, so
Speaker 1: he like kind of manifests manifested her. This is what
Speaker 1: I don't like about it. It's giving a tinty bit
Speaker 1: of raquel because I saw that, like she hangs out
Speaker 1: with Olivia Wilde and like they've all hung out together.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, don't get Becka started on that started.
Speaker 1: There was a blind item on Dumois. There was I
Speaker 1: saw that too, So Dumas doesn't always get it right,
Speaker 1: so we don't know that's true. That's true, like that,
Speaker 1: I feel like they get it right pretty often. Okay,
Speaker 1: but like I kind of just feel like two really
Speaker 1: hot people that like could wear really cool outfits and
Speaker 1: give us lots of street Style inspiration What's not to love? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like shocked by my when someone sends it
Speaker 1: to me, my feeling about it. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know these people. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Why did my heart sink? Like Harry Styles, I'm not
Speaker 1: like I love him. I love his music. I think
Speaker 1: he's so cute, but like, I'm not like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: marry Harry stuff. That is so funny that you had
Speaker 1: that reaction. And I don't even care that much, But
Speaker 1: why did my heart? I gotta I gotta talk about
Speaker 1: in therapy because like there was a it was an
Speaker 1: unexpected feeling. I'm processing it. I love him a lot.
Speaker 1: My love goes deep for Harry Styles. I'm sorry happy.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to do though. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if she's going to be that for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think that I don't know that this is
Speaker 1: going to be like a relationship or you know, if
Speaker 1: it does turn into a relationship, I could see it
Speaker 1: being like the Kim and Pete thing. Yeah, where it's
Speaker 1: like it's for like a chunk of time. It's fun
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's exciting for us to like watch a
Speaker 1: viewers but like, are they going to get married? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like she's making up for lost
Speaker 1: time because she was married for like most of her career,
Speaker 1: and so she's like, I could have been literally dating
Speaker 1: all of these cool hot celebrities. I didn't, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now I'm going to now yeah. Or it could be
Speaker 1: like the Emroda Pete Davidson. I forgot that. I forgot
Speaker 1: that that even happened. Yeah right, She's just like going,
Speaker 1: you know, she's like, who's hot right now? Great Emerda
Speaker 1: is Pete Davidson. Yeah, she is the Pete Davidson. I
Speaker 1: didn't come up with that on my own. I saw that.
Speaker 1: I can't take full credit for that one. Um, when
Speaker 1: you get asked about like um Vander pump Roule stuff,
Speaker 1: does you're like, do you get just like h or
Speaker 1: you like that was a really like this is a
Speaker 1: fun thing to talk about for me because I'm not
Speaker 1: in it anymore. Okay, it's a fun thing to talk
Speaker 1: about privately, so like when my neighbors text me about
Speaker 1: it or something like. I think it's fun, but I
Speaker 1: do have a little anxiety like being here been talking
Speaker 1: about it really publicly because I know that um, it
Speaker 1: will then be turned into like a headline and it'll
Speaker 1: look like I'm just like doing a press tour about
Speaker 1: vander pump Rolls, which I think is like kind of
Speaker 1: thirsty and embarrassing. So like this isn't like the normal
Speaker 1: way I talk about it. I normally like just do
Speaker 1: it like behind everyone's backs. Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like you're like text gossip. Yeah I get that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we made sure kind of you uncomfortable like talking about it,
Speaker 1: you know how it is. It's like things that they
Speaker 1: just everything always looks not how you intended it to be,
Speaker 1: Like the headlines always just see and then people don't
Speaker 1: actually listen, so they're like they just get a snippet
Speaker 1: of like what it. Yeah, and then it's like Staci's
Speaker 1: still thirsty because she's like doing podcasts now talking about
Speaker 1: Vanner pump Roules. It's like that's not why I was there.
Speaker 1: Were there whatever Harry Styles And yeah, I was there
Speaker 1: to talk about Harry Styles. Okay. It is so one
Speaker 1: of those things, and like it's I wouldn't even say that.
Speaker 1: I am like, oh, I don't watch the show, but
Speaker 1: I know so much about the show and the people
Speaker 1: on the show. More than I ever have because of
Speaker 1: it's like you almost can't talk about it, and especially
Speaker 1: being a part of the show for so long, it's
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a delicate like balance of like
Speaker 1: acknowledging it and not letting it become like the only
Speaker 1: thing that like people see when they look at me. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you've done a really good
Speaker 1: job with your separation from the show of you're writing books,
Speaker 1: you're doing the podcast, you're a mom. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: like so much that you're like separated, but you're not
Speaker 1: like what, I'm gonna go deep on you here, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want people to see when they look
Speaker 1: at you? Oh? That is so so deep? You know,
Speaker 1: we're the headline grabbing podcast. We're like the deep down.
Speaker 1: Can't Yeah, oh god, I don't know. I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like I want people to look at me and
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what. No, Like, she is
Speaker 1: a good person, and she's a great mom. She's a
Speaker 1: good wife, and she's good at her job, and she
Speaker 1: hasn't like totally lost her head. She's still like a
Speaker 1: little like you know, like mildly evil, Like if you
Speaker 1: had had to make her evil, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: just like still like somewhat edgy, Like I haven't like
Speaker 1: fully lost it and turned like I'll live laugh love. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I don't see you as love laffla, thank you, m.
Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about it, but I think I
Speaker 1: just don't want people to think that vander pump rolls
Speaker 1: and drama is the only thing I'm good for. Like,
Speaker 1: if I don't have drama in my life, then what
Speaker 1: then I'm worth riving? Right, you know? A moment of silence. No,
Speaker 1: because no, I do like a lot of self work.
Speaker 1: I read like a lot of self help books, and
Speaker 1: I'm always asking myself these like really intense questions. But
Speaker 1: I find it interesting because I'm like, if you don't
Speaker 1: know what you want people to see, how are you
Speaker 1: supposed to like live that out. That's a good point, Okay.
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't like fully mean the world word evil.
Speaker 1: I kind of just meant like, yeah, okay, I'm still
Speaker 1: cool and edgy. I'm still hip, all right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I still have a little bit of a dark side.
Speaker 1: I like where you would do edgy. I feel like
Speaker 1: he really leaned into that role. I love because I
Speaker 1: love dark things. I love witchy things. I love horror movies.
Speaker 1: I love haunted houses. I love spooky things. My daughter
Speaker 1: like her first word, I'm you not with skull, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. She knew the word skull before like
Speaker 1: any other word. Um, she loves halloween. We just like
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like I've always been like
Speaker 1: really interested in spooky things. The semi goth girl from
Speaker 1: Amazing Strong. Yeah she's come a long way. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say? Where can people follow you
Speaker 1: on Instagram? Are you popping? Like do you like pop
Speaker 1: off on TikTok or do you a TikToker? I um
Speaker 1: and a TikTok observer. I post every now and then,
Speaker 1: but like I'm really into TikTok. I love scrolling, I
Speaker 1: love watching. But I'm not somebody that posts all the time.
Speaker 1: It's like so daunting, Like people are like I'll tell
Speaker 1: you how to do it, like you have to post
Speaker 1: five to eight times a day, and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: guys are working batch crazy if you think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that, like your TikTok, like your Instagram stories, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I overthink everything I post on TikTok, and
Speaker 1: I spend so much time on it. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make this montage of me and my daughter in
Speaker 1: Paris to like a renaissance like music, and like literally
Speaker 1: five people like it. I just spend six hours on that. No,
Speaker 1: it is so funny when the videos like, do you
Speaker 1: want to know how to grow your TikTok, here's what
Speaker 1: you have to do eight times a day, Yes, every
Speaker 1: day for one year. Yeah, and you might grow. It's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might. It's insane. There's no Well, we appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on here. I'm sorry that we asked about vander Pump,
Speaker 1: but thank we made you uncomfortable. You guys did not
Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable. Get it like you. It's like you.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are from the show have been like this
Speaker 1: my moment to like get it out there. So I
Speaker 1: think it's fair to not one. But it's not even
Speaker 1: I think the thing is it's it's in reverse. It's
Speaker 1: not like like you have other stuff going on, so
Speaker 1: you do press you. It's just a byproduct of the
Speaker 1: fact that you were from this show. And it's literally
Speaker 1: everything I know and I think I'm overthinking it right now,
Speaker 1: your person ourselves, but like I've had to learn to
Speaker 1: overthink so it is. You did not make me uncomfortable whatsoever.
Speaker 1: This was so much I really myself. But I swear,
Speaker 1: if people think you're thirsty, then Mike, I think you're
Speaker 1: doing all right. If that's like the worst people think,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like all right right, not really,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be thirsty. Nobody does what I'm saying out of
Speaker 1: everything else, Like there's worse things worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's worse things. Yeah. I don't think exactly that's true.
Speaker 1: You could be doing sit down interviews with DMZ. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good point. You're gonna get that money,
Speaker 1: the whole what did you say, like a whole year's
Speaker 1: contract worth? Yeah, one interview too. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: accurate anything. Um. Where can people find you on social media? Um?
Speaker 1: On Instagram at stas Schroeder. I guess it's the same
Speaker 1: on TikTok. If you want to give me a follow
Speaker 1: and see a TikTok like once every three months. Um,
Speaker 1: that's it. If people want to go to my tour.
Speaker 1: It's Stacy Schroeder dot com slash the Mommy Deers Tour,
Speaker 1: and they can listen to my podcast Stripe with Stacy anywhere.
Speaker 1: And then I have a second podcast, The Good, The Bad,
Speaker 1: the Baby on Patreon, so that's patreon dot com slash
Speaker 1: stac Oh. Wow, Like I can love it really and
Speaker 1: I feel so much safer there, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: I can say whatever I want and like it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter because it's behind a paywall. I know. I've
Speaker 1: been thinking Stacy's got my brain well, like I have,
Speaker 1: Like I have my public one and then I have
Speaker 1: a more private one, so it's like I feel like
Speaker 1: it's the best of both worlds. Yeah, you're you're a busy,
Speaker 1: busy woman, and thank you for your time. Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see what's next. And are you
Speaker 1: coming to LA for the show? Yes? On my birthday.
Speaker 1: Actually it'll be my thirty fifth birthday June twenty fourth
Speaker 1: at the Ace Hotel downtown and so I'm just like
Speaker 1: really going to lean in. Yeah, yeah, hopefully we'll be
Speaker 1: there cheering you on. I would love to have sober
Speaker 1: make it all around you. Thanks Jussie, thank you,