WEBVTT - A Sit-Down with Stassi Schroeder 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.920 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rev An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:13.640 Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. Yes, and we have 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.919 a special guest today that is very much in the 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.599 center of what everybody is talking about because she is 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.600 an American TV personality. She's a podcast host, a fashion blogger, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.040 a model, and she's an author. She's actually a two 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.720 time New York Times best selling author, so I'm excited 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:34.959 to ask her about that. And she is best known 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.519 for starring on Bravo's reality TV series Vanderpunk Rules. She 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.559 got married to her prince charming beau Clark back in 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.280 twenty twenty. She has an adorable two year old daughter, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.200 and she's expecting her second baby. She really does it all. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:58.000 Please help us welcome the one and only Stas Schroeder Clark. Hello. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.640 I didn't realize you didn't know Tanya. No, I don't 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.800 think we've met properly before, but I know of you, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.039 and I'm so excited to be here, so thank you 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.960 for having me here. We're so excited, I mean all, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.600 I have never known so much about Vander pump Rolls 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.080 than I do right now. Yes, at this very moment, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.160 just like I think my unborn child knows all about 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:24.480 scannable right now. Yes, while yeah, scandabal well that's what 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:33.000 everybody's Oh wow, sorry I'm behind. Um, well, congratulations you 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.080 just announced your pregnancy. Yes, thank you so much. Are 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.319 you having like differences like in just like between this 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.440 one the in the first you know what? Not? Really 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.440 I had a pretty easy pregnancy the first time, except 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.520 I was just like maybe a little depressed because I 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.480 was stuck at home. It was during COVID twenty was 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.800 a rough year for everyone, and so like I felt 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.400 very isolated. Um, all my symptoms in are the same, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.920 but this time I just feel really excited that I 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.320 can like walk out of my house curiously, you know, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.399 in my car, go do things, just like go out 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.160 to dinner. As a pregnant person is fun and new. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.560 So yeah, you're like very different experience than the twenty 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.080 twenty pregnancy. Yeah, so now I have fomo like a 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.560 ton more. Like I highly recommend being pregnant, you know, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.920 during a pandemic, because like there's no missing out on 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.240 anything and everyone else is at home. But is it 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.440 because are you just tired more tired and you like 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.720 don't want to go out? No, it's just that, like, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.680 do I really want to go out like late at 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.080 night to something when I can't drink, I can't let loose. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.080 It's like, no, I'd rather be tucked into bed, you know. Yeah, 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.680 so a lot with no pregnancy would rather be touched 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.160 often correct, And you think that, but like when it's 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.480 like totally just like taken off the table for you, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.399 like you don't have a choice, you can't drink alcohol 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.280 and like you have fun, then it just becomes a 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.960 little harder to deal with because it wasn't your choice. Yeah, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.280 I could see that. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a choice. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.239 I still have the choice of, you know, if I 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.280 want to rage or not. Yeah. I just drank the 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.440 other night, and I'm like, I'm never drinking again. I 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.280 felt terrible yesterday. So I'll be on that for like 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.800 a week or two. Then I'll be back at it. No, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.360 I'm still on it. I'm still on my like no 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.040 alcohol thing. How long have you gone? Well, so it's 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:35.880 like not really no alcohol. I was like day limited alcohol. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.120 So before I would drink every day, like you know, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.840 like the dinner, I'd have wine and things like that. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.840 Of course I miss it. So now I'm doing it 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.680 only on special occasions, which feels like I'm not drinking anymore. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.120 I think that's just like super healthy of you. I 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.200 mean the hashtag balance, thank you. That's where I'm very 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.080 I'm a very balanced girly right now. When you like 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.840 think about your like beginning, vander Pump rules day and 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.800 now you see your life now, are you like? Who 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.240 is that person? No? Real talk all the time. No really, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.920 especially because I feel like it's it's having like a 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.200 little renaissance right now. Yer Pump rolls. So a whole 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.200 new wave of people are watching from the beginning, and 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.800 I kind of like shudder a little bit and just 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.760 get so embarrassed because those people who are watching don't 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.640 know what I'm like now, and so much has changed. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.800 I mean, I was twenty three back then. I'm thirty 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.760 four now and my life is very different. It's it's 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.640 just wild when people message me thinking that what they're 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.080 watching in season one right now is who I am, right, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.360 It's crazy. Where do you think that shift came from? 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:47.359 Just like years? I think aging, But you know, like again, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.719 I was twenty three years old, so I had to 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.320 you know, that's eleven years to grow up a little bit. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.760 But also I mean, I think stepping away from Vanner 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.800 pump rolls, I got married, I had a baby, and 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.760 not that I chose to step away, but meaning like, um, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.960 not being on it for so long, you have to 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.039 find a way to not miss it. You have to 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.200 find a way to say goodbye, and like with that 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.599 comes leading a totally different lifestyle. And you know, hitting 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.039 like what you feel like is like a rock bottom moment, 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:21.560 like it really does make you like shifty and everything 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.000 about your life. That is funny thing about people watching 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.840 it from the beginning now and they're like, I can't 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.920 believe you said that that was weird eleven years ago. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.720 It is interesting because I feel like we talked about 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.359 this a lot, and like we all kind of like 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.960 attach ourselves to something, whether it's our career or a 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.560 relationship or something. Right, so like you, you you attach 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.640 yourself to van Erpunt rules. When when that ends, you 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.280 have this sort of like existential moment where you're just 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.200 like who am I? What am I? And who do 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.520 I want to be? If you feel like that kind 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.560 of made you shift? And then also like did it 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.240 make you kind of now change your views on how 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.440 you're going to attach yourself to things moving forward. In 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.400 twenty twenty, I mean I was forced to like just 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.200 look at my life and look at who I am, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.240 and what do I value, what do I stand for? 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.720 And now that I'm you know, at that point I 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.560 had you know, I didn't have Vanner pump rolls to 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.360 keep me in that sort of lifestyle. Like it really 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.640 was the world is technically my oyster for me to 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.599 make decisions based on what I want. And you really 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.520 do like a lot of like soul searching to figure 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.080 out what your priorities are. And you know, having a 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.520 kid that changes you no matter what. You're like no 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.279 longer living for yourself. Like I look back and I'm 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.480 just like that's so funny, like rip, like waking up 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.400 and just like thinking what do I want? And when 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.600 you have a kid, you're happy to do it, like 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.960 you're happy not to live for yourself. But with like 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.920 living for somebody else comes just like priority shifts, and 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.880 then along with priority shifts, then like what you're interested 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.000 in shifts, and so then therefore like where you go, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.000 the things you do, that all changes and you kind 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.200 of just like become somebody else, whether you like it 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.600 or not? Yeah, when you what year was it that 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.640 you left in or pump rolls um twenty twenty, twenty 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.920 twenty yeah, And then so when when that happened, was 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.600 there a sense of like, oh my gosh, I just 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.600 lost this um like group of people are like being 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.560 involved in this like world that like did you feel 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.160 like you needed to get the gossip and like what 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.000 was going on? Or did you feel like you were 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.559 able to fully remove yourself? Now I tried. I tried 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.720 to stay away from it for a really long time, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:38.080 like that was what was most healthy for me. And 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.480 even now, like it's been kind of hard, not gonna 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.000 lie to like see all of this vander pump Rolls 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.000 stuff come up and it's everywhere, and I'm DMed about 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.200 it all day long, like I'm gonna need you to 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.520 weigh in. I'm gonna need you to weigh in, and 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.400 and like at first I was like, oh, this is 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.760 like interesting and crazy that this is happening, and then 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.520 it kind of was like I'm having a little like 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.200 triggered moment where I'm like, God, I used to live 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.760 in this world for so long and now I'm like, well, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.400 I'm not even being paid for this, and I'm living 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.720 like this is unfair. It is unfair when you heard 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.160 the news where you like, oh my gosh, I can't 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:22.480 forget where I was. Where We were literally at my 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.560 house and I have been cleaning out my closet because 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.720 I'm turning my like my extra room into a nursery obviously, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.480 and so I'm like, well, I have to get rid 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.120 of like half the stuff that I own, like I 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:34.920 don't have that much space for it. So we were 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.000 literally photographing my clothes that I'm like going to give 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.480 away or sell. And I was like, holy, holy holy, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.640 And that's that's where I was. I'll tell my grandchildren 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.880 wait for Okay, can you watch Friends at all? I mean, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.960 obviously I don't watch it like religiously, but you know 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.320 the gist. Yeah, could you explain the vander Pump rules 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:02.480 obsession drama through the eye of the Friends cast? Do 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.640 you get what I'm saying? That sounds like something like 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.040 a professor would ask his class. I don't even know 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.839 where to Friends because it was hard for me to 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.640 understand because I was to me, I couldn't keep up 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.680 with the Vanderpump Rules. So like so and so is 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.000 Ross and so and so. Yeah. So I'm like, but 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.000 why do we, like, why are we not more mad 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.920 at this guy because he had a girlfriend and the 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.439 girl didn't have a Well, we are mad at the guy. Oh. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.360 I felt like the girl's getting a lot more because 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.800 the girl always does, which every situation in the world, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.000 the girl always does get annoy he but no, Tom 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.640 is the bad guy? Okay, okay? Has he always been? 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.679 Has that undertone been there? Like the potential of him 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.240 to be this person was. I think you should start 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.480 over and you should commit to Vanner Pump Rules and 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.040 watch him season one and you'll see for yourself because 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.280 I always felt like it was there. I mean, he 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:58.800 never liked me, so we always yeah. Yeah, so this 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.120 kind of like to me when I saw this happen, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.280 I'm like, I knew it, Like, yeah, I knew it. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.040 You're always pointing the finger at other people, You're always 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.480 always like a potster. It's not that he's a potster. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.240 He just loves to hold everyone else accountable for things 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.680 and like things that like, you know, seven years ago, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.880 you were constantly dark passagering, like you need to be 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.880 held accountable for that. It's like he was always holding 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:28.199 people accountable for weird and so now it's like, oh, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.079 I think that that's something that someone does when they're 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.880 the ones that should be being held accountable for something 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.520 like much more grave. That's true, like when you're always 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.360 like pointing out what other people are doing and you're 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.480 like never at fault. That's a red fly. Right yeah, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.760 but did did any like they were together for nine years? Right, 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:56.360 like yeah, Arianna and Tom and so all, yes, yes, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.720 it is. Well, I'm like I see all their names 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.920 and I'm like, who's who, and it's strucu. The friends 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.640 exercise I thought would be very helpful confuse me even 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.480 more like that. No, think about it. It's like it's 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.920 like Ross and Rachel being together, or no, let's do 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.600 Monica Chandler because they were more stable Monica and Chandler 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.400 being together. And then we always said that, like Katie 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.680 and Tomer, Monica and Chanler. It's just so funny to 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.800 hear you say the friends reference because like since the 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.360 beginning we used that reference, but now the cast has 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:30.520 changed that we would the same the same way that 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:37.240 like the same pairing doesn't exist anymore, right, right, Yeah, 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.319 So I would say that like Tom and arian are 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.160 like the Chandler and the Monica and Chandler's Tom and 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:49.120 he just hooked up with Phoebe Phoebe, I mean no, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:54.280 didn't hook up. They've been having an affair. Yeah, Like 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.000 no there, Like I'm sorry, but I just have seen 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.120 tiktoks of him and like him performing. I don't know, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.840 I didn't know he was a singer or whatever. And 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.440 I have the worst itch, So I can't believe that 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.560 Raquel is with him, like like that's my man, and 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:17.120 I'm as stick beside him. How I don't know? Um, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.240 so when when they got together, we're are you friends 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.600 with Arianna? And we're like, who's like the friend? Like 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.360 who are your friends from the show? Well, I mean 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.960 we were all friendly with each other and Tom No, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.760 but like we were, we were all we hung out 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.800 in the same group, you know what I mean. It's 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.480 it's a really aub weird web, this like group of 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.080 friends and like what it is? Um? I mean Katie 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.520 Maloney is is one of my best friends. She's the 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.080 godmother to my child. She was my maid of honor. 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.120 Like she's like I adore her. Um, but I'm friends 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.480 with like some of them, but not really all of them. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.520 I don't know, it's like kind of I've been out 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.480 of it for so long too, so I've kind of 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.000 just stayed friends the people that i've three years is 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:07.760 a long time, girls, world, Yeah, it's a long time. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.560 And when you're trying to like take a break from 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.960 a to If I'm not going to be paid to 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.640 be on this show, why am I going to like 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.680 insert myself with when like half the cast I don't 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.480 really get along with as like real friends, So why 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.160 would be Yeah, why would I be there? You know, 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.880 like the group? Hey, guys, I know it's been a minute. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:35.280 How's everyone doing anything new happening? Would you imagine I've 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:43.280 been offline for a minute, just chucking it? Yes, it's dassie, Yeah, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:48.200 I just wow. The I guess when you are the 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.440 two like most hated people, like, it's easy to stick together, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.200 right because you're like, who else am I gonna? Well? 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.440 I I mean I personally feel like they have to 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.559 stick together. Like if I was there publicist, like I 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.880 would be like, what's gonna happen now? Is you guys 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.000 are going to get married? You're gonna have a baby, 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.640 because like honestly, like really like does like you can't 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.800 hate on a baby, like no one can hate on 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.280 a baby. You guys are gonna go do charity work 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.800 in another country for a good year and then you're 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.600 gonna come back. Like that's that's what I would tell 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.120 them to do it. They have to get married, now, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.720 you know what? I do want your take on that 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.720 I found so fascinating. Do you did you say the 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.800 TMZ video that Raquel she was like in front of 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.720 a nail. So I saw that, and then I saw 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.080 Spencer Pratt. I know I saw that. Dude. This is 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.360 what's so annoying. Again, It's like, I'm not getting paid 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.280 for this yet every time I go on TikTok, my 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.240 whole algorithm, I have to like quickly get out, Like 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.920 I can't watch anything vanderpump Rolls otherwise TikTok's gonna know 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.400 that I watched it and then only show me vanderpump 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.400 Rolls and like, get have it, get out of it. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.840 But Spencer I had to watch because I think he's 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.640 so funny. I don't know if you saw it, but 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.400 basically Spencer was saying I didn't want to step in. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.120 I didn't want to say anything. But she has to 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.760 go and get this coincidental TMZ video outside of the 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.760 nail salon where she's looking, you know, not her best, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.640 and he was like, basically, you screwed yourself out of 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.920 your contract for next year because she gave all that 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.400 like spilled and it was like kind of uninteresting, but 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.640 she kind of spilled and spoke to like this TMZ 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.960 camera when the reunion was that night. Okay, so I 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.600 will say I could not agree with everything he said more. Yeah, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.000 it was weird. Why but why would she do that? Um? 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.880 I feel like I know and I don't. I don't 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.280 know why does anyone? No one's I'm not under a contract? Okay, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.360 well I know, um because it was paid so like 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.680 she worked with so she got paid for it. Okay, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.520 that's what That's what Spencer alluded to pay for that 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.120 though like TMZ, I don't know whether it was TA 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.120 I don't think it was, but honestly that would be genuine. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.640 Um yeah no, but that I don't know why she 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.000 thought that that would be in her best interest when 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.000 I would think that keeping her job on this show 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.600 would be in her best interests. So maybe the money 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.040 outweighed Maybe they paid her a ton more to do 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.160 that than they would even for another year contract. Um doubt. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:15.200 I doubt it. Really, it's that much like she's like, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.720 this is my this is how much. I mean They're 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.280 like okay, no, no, yeah, but I mean I would 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:27.160 imagine um that like Bravo's angries because the reunion was 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.320 literally the next day and yeah to go. And it 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.320 was so obvious that that that was planned because I 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.560 every week, we all kind of know what it's like. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.920 Of course, pap Rozzi are following her so like they 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.280 could catch her where. She like that absolutely, but normally 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:44.840 you're like, I'm sorry, I can't really talk right now. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.040 I'm sorry, I have to go, Like I'm sorry, Like right, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.440 you have that option, yeah, you don't have to sit there, right. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.800 I found it so odd. I'm like watching it, like 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.800 what is going on? I was like, I feel like 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.760 I'm in the twilights though. It was it was really strange. Yeah, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.600 very strange. It felt like she was doing like a 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.679 sit down interview, but I'm sitting down on a curb. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.600 It was so weird. It was weird. It wasn't like 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.200 here's a little I'll give you a little something so 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.159 you can post it. It's like I'm gonna give you everything. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.720 We're gonna sit and shot. I know. I feel like 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:41.680 at some point the photographers parted like okay are you Yeah. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.119 I just feel like with her apologies, do you feel 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.480 like they were sincere? But do you do you have 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.120 an opinion on her as a person? Not really, I don't. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:56.360 I don't know her that well, so whatever, I don't 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.280 have an opinion on her either. So the sincerity you 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.840 you You're just like, yeah, probably the thing is m 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.880 was just a post, so like, how can you judge? Yeah, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.040 the sincerity of something. And I mean in seeing her, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.439 you know in that video was was I don't know, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.760 I didn't really know her. Yeah, yeah, it was icky. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.320 It was icky. I was like that Spencer private. It 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.000 really got me thinking. I was like, yeah, I've never 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.600 seen someone have a full conversation like that and answering 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.399 every question. No, never, I agree. Yeah, Um, I do 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.600 want to switch to the topic really quick, because you 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.880 have two of something under your belt that I've been 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.720 really wanting my whole life, a New York Times bestseller, 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.480 and I want to know how it feels to be 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.480 a New York Times bestseller. Um, I'm not gonna lie 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.800 it feels great, Like it really does. Like at the 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.560 end of the day, like I know how lucky I 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.600 am to be in this position because I was on 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.600 this show for so long. But then it's like anyone 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.679 can put something out anyone else, anyone can put out 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.200 a book or put out a podcast, and to see 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.800 that it's received so well and it does so well, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.120 like that makes me feel like I'm not here just 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.159 because of luck. Yeah, And so that gives me a 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.200 greater sense of purpose. I gotta tell you, going through 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.240 the process, I have so much more respect for people 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.960 that write books now, Like I always knew it was hard, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.480 and I always thought it was hard, but like going 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.439 through the actual process, I'm like, kudos to you and 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.520 the fact that you did it twice. Oh no, it 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.119 sucks you. And I'm working on my third one. It 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.119 sucks your soul, it really does. And then you second 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.280 guess everything, and then you also you grow and you change. Yeah, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.680 and I'm like, actually I want to change that, or 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.160 like I don't feel that way anymore, but I did 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.400 feel that way at a moment in time, So like 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.480 should I keep it there? It's like a time capsule, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.920 I don't know, and then it just keeps you awake 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.679 at night. It's it's stressful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's totally 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.800 a mind trip. I will say that for sure. Yeah. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.879 And it's like also, and I feel like maybe you 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.840 feel the same way. It's like, you work in entertainment, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.199 so you you know, you're constantly posting and sharing up. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.040 But something about being in a book feel so permanent. Yes, truly, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.600 like so finite. It's it's there, it's done. You have 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.520 to answer for it. It's it's not like, oh, well 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.080 I said that on a reality show or I said 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.760 that on a podcast, but like did I mean it? No, 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:20.280 you thought about everything that you've written over it, and 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.439 you've checked it again and other people have checked it 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.960 AGAs well. Which are you writing a third book now? 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.960 I am? When's that one coming out? Well? I'm working 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.399 on it right now. Okay, so no, the date is TBD, 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.280 TVD yes, And what's it going to be about? I 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.200 kind of don't want to get into it. I no, No, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.000 I don't want to get into it because it's it's 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.840 at the early stages, like the really early stages. Okay, 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.160 so it's like not totally conceptualized. No, Well, in my yes, 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.000 in my brain it is. It's still a how it's 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.400 still in the same format, it's the same type of 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.320 how to book, like a basic bitch how to book, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.160 but it's it's something that I don't feel like people 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.000 would expect from me, like a how to thing. And 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.960 I feel like, honestly, if I'm gonna announce, it's gonna 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.920 be on my podcast, not y'all. I was like, give 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:09.920 it to us, to us, give us up that headline, QUI, Um, 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.280 I wanted to talk about you, um, your husband, and 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.359 how y'all met, because when you actually you know, we 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.440 we know, you know, how we have a connection. Are 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:24.160 Louisiana roots? Yeah? Wait, hold on, it's my first boyfriend. Yes, yes, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.159 my first boyfriend, Brock. That's how. How was that? How 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.879 we met at? Like I think we met at an 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.240 event or something and somehow we started talking about it 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:36.840 and we really like a connection. He went to high school. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.320 Oh I thought you dated him too. I was like, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:44.280 WHOA so crazy? Like how small the world? I know? 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.720 But um, I was going to ask you about when 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.320 you met bo, Like, was there a moment when y'all 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:51.919