WEBVTT - Are You Enjoying This? 

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<v Speaker 1>Are you enjoying this? Is anyone enjoying this at all?

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<v Speaker 1>It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty. One more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I took my son and two of his best friends

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<v Speaker 1>on a little getaway Friday for my son's birthday, And

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<v Speaker 1>because they're teenagers to fifteen year olds and a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old, I have no idea if they had a

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<v Speaker 1>good time or not. I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, you can't tell teenagers. You can't tell they just see,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to act so aloof all the time, oh yeah, okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of laughing to themselves and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard them in their hotel room and they

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be having good time. But like in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of just asking them questions, yeah, okay, cool, right whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't know. It's that cool guy age, the

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<v Speaker 1>cool guy age. Oh my god, the amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to an effort to walk, dress, talk, the

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<v Speaker 1>way you got to be to be cool. Look, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm usually pretty good at sussing out why, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kids and teenagers act in certain ways developmentally speaking the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of it, but the whole I don't like anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sure what that's all about. You want to seem

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<v Speaker 3>in control. And do they associate and this is all

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying this is insidious or anything, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>practically universal. Yeah, but do they associate enthusiasm with childishness?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder that's a pretty good one right there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like the three of them together, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we did some pretty cool stuff, and they saw some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool stuff, and I felt like they each had

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend to the other two that they weren't impressed

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, which left me thinking, why are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing this? Is anybody enjoying this?

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<v Speaker 3>Feeling superior to things and people? It's really important to

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<v Speaker 3>teens too. That's why the you know, the social ladder

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<v Speaker 3>thing can be so brutal, because anybody you can put

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<v Speaker 3>below you elevates you, like on the class rank of coolness,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just savage and it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the perfect example to make my own point,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose. So we were at the Grove, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a shopping area in Los Angeles for people who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>very cool, upscale, outdoor, beautiful day in LA. Tons of

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<v Speaker 1>people there and everything like that, and I let them

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<v Speaker 1>walk around and do stuff. They got some food the

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<v Speaker 1>Farmer's market there, and they went around, shopped at some

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<v Speaker 1>stores that they like and that sort of thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>left them alone, and I thought, all I was walking around,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they have got to be noticing the female

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<v Speaker 1>contingent here. I mean, because it was I mean between

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<v Speaker 1>the ages of like fifteen and thirty, you know, hot

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<v Speaker 1>and cold, running la tan well dressed attractive women, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they got to be noticing with teenage boys. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought that up on the Uber ride to the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>Some attractive woman there in place. Yeah, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>so not. Okay, now I know you're having to put

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<v Speaker 1>on a front, because that's ridiculous. I mean, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>freaking loss upscale Los Angeles. Unless you're all three gay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really trying too hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and then at least say, I don't know about

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<v Speaker 3>the chicks, but the dudes were pretty fresh or fly

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever people say these days. Fly That one goes

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<v Speaker 3>back like twenty five thirty years, doesn't it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that reminds me I've got to find that hang. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make a note to myself, even as we speak.

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<v Speaker 3>NPR did a feature about dropping testosterone levels, and they

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<v Speaker 3>had all the men at the NPR station test their testosterone.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had an erection in a decade and a

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<v Speaker 1>half and they were all like, way sub average. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>really like every.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude using finger quotes who worked there. It was like, uh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but in the parlance of today's youth, a real beta male,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like a effeminate fella. And that does not

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<v Speaker 3>shock It amuses me in a way, and it confirms

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<v Speaker 3>what I've thought, Well, what you came first. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>is there something about working at NPR that drives down

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<v Speaker 3>your just drives d levels that could happen or is

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<v Speaker 3>that just a certain sort of person that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a type and there's a lot Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I would agree, Yeah, I know some.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's nothing that these guys have been taught

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<v Speaker 2>like in school, like, oh, we don't engage in toxic masculinity.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not that. I don't think that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a I got to be unimpressed. It makes me

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<v Speaker 1>cooler to be unimpressed. I think that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, if you are a normal, healthy young

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<v Speaker 3>man and you see an attractive woman with whom your

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<v Speaker 3>very biology cries out for you to couple and produce young.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, if you say she's really good looking, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hit you with a bat. She's hot, pam ow

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<v Speaker 3>ow ow, she's really cute, pam.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god stop. You can't help yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't think so. Although again, the teenage lads,

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<v Speaker 3>I give so much latitude. Adolescence is so hard and complicated. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're twenty six and you're the guy says I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think she's good looking, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, that's pathetic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's so pathetic. I dated okay, Oh, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're such a stud and could have any woman

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<v Speaker 3>on earth. The top two percent of women isn't quite

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<v Speaker 3>hot enough for you. I get the message you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to send, and it's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I dated a guy like that in high school and

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<v Speaker 2>it was insufferable. He could not he could not be

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<v Speaker 2>am used by anything. And I just remember it going like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you are you too cool for everything? I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>understanding this and he actually, I don't know that he's

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<v Speaker 2>grown out of it. To be honest with you, thirty six, Now, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to be vague about this to protect the innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was somebody I know very very well who

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<v Speaker 3>was dating a young man who was very attractive, very smart,

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<v Speaker 3>great future ahead of him. But not to overstate it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he definitely had a mister spockish personality where he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like super delighted by much. Sure, he was just

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<v Speaker 3>emotionally very flat, very cool, very reserved, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>very and this is you know, this is beyond your teenagers,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just I think that's probably just the way

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<v Speaker 3>he was made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta believe in that case, since he was

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<v Speaker 1>attractive and you said had a bright future. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the people have known past being a teenager, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>high school or high schooler is different, as you've said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just part of the thing for whatever reason. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're thirty years old and you're not impressed by

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<v Speaker 1>anything or anyone. I've known a plenty of like real losers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your dating prospects are not good, your financial

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<v Speaker 1>prospects are not good. So obviously that's a protection mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>if you pretend you're not interested in anybody in this

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<v Speaker 1>bar because you know, you feel like none of them

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in you. That is a help to protect you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been said of bigotry, and I think it's right that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it springs from people who are desperate

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<v Speaker 3>to feel superior to someone. Yeah yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have any rational basis on which to feel superior.

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<v Speaker 3>They go with you know, skin color or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm picturing a particular person I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've known several people like that, not impressed with anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>car or house or anything like that because they are

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<v Speaker 1>never going to have anything worth a crap. So it

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<v Speaker 1>just makes it easier. I guess all the way pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sad and transparent, so it doesn't bother me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for somebody who has to do that

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<v Speaker 1>to get through the day, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's psychological self protection. I ran into somebody like

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<v Speaker 3>that recently too, and it hurt my heart because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not a bad person, but it was definitely a

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<v Speaker 3>rationalizing thing. It's similar to, you know, the only way

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<v Speaker 3>you can be successful is because you're a cheating, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>white person or whatever. And it's rare that you see

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's reached their full potential pitching that sort of nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, and one more thing on this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna have to accept this at a certain level.

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<v Speaker 1>I fight it in my own home. I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot, like the stirring at your phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you doing it in the car with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understood the dinner table, but this was my

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<v Speaker 1>son and his friends. This was kind of their weekend

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<v Speaker 1>for his birthday. So I'm not going to tell them

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<v Speaker 1>how to interact with each other. But it's amazing how

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<v Speaker 1>much time they spent looking at their phones when the

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<v Speaker 1>three of them are together. That's just I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's the way the world's going to be. And I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I can't change it. But I just thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>The main form of entertainment, even when you're in good company.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and like, and we're riding around in these ubers

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<v Speaker 1>through Los Angeles and there's all kinds of freaking cool

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<v Speaker 1>things everywhere you go, or unique things you've never seen before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, you know, I pointed out a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of people and they glance up for

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<v Speaker 1>their phone for a second, go back to their phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally gave up on that and just not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in observing anything in the world other than and they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing games on their front then looking at the game

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<v Speaker 1>on their phone. All right, I guess yeah, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen the Hollywood sign before. Oh that's another thing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing I picked up at, and that makes perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>good sense. The younger set has no interest in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>That thing is dead as soon as like forty five

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<v Speaker 1>year olds grow old enough to be dead. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the cutoff is, but the younger generation, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing as that. I grew up with, like

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood movie stars being a thing. It's not with the

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<v Speaker 1>younger generation. They don't even know what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Staying at a hotel right next to or right down

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<v Speaker 3>street from Warner Brothers studios, I'm thinking, oh, man, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where right, No, none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that doesn't mean anything to the younger crowd, which man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Hollywood's aware of that. They probably are,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wonder what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe all the streaming services, Maybe it's lost in the

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just so diffuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess in video gaming, and yeah, that's that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Plus there's more transparency in the world these days.

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<v Speaker 3>So you just you don't think of movie actors as

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<v Speaker 3>these distant, superior race of humans, beings that you will

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<v Speaker 3>never know, you'll never touch, you'll never hear from. They

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<v Speaker 3>just exist on the silver screen or it carefully orchestrated

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<v Speaker 3>publicity events. Now, if some famous actor and his old

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<v Speaker 3>lady are bitching at each other in the streets, you

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<v Speaker 3>see the video on TMZ. Alrighty go out without makeup,

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<v Speaker 3>or scene going into a public bathroom in a park

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Clary.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes is been affleck pooping. I'll be damn. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get that with Bogey and Picall.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you did not get their humbry bogar pooping. Yes, Michael, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just say.

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<v Speaker 2>Younger people, they can film themselves, so it's nothing special.

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<v Speaker 1>To be on TV. It's like, well, geez, I do

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time. That's not a bad point. Actually, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>excellent point. I say, well, you win. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast observation of the day. Congratulations, Michael. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.