1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying this? Is anyone enjoying this at all? 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty. One more thing. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I took my son and two of his best friends 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: on a little getaway Friday for my son's birthday, And 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: because they're teenagers to fifteen year olds and a fourteen 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: year old, I have no idea if they had a 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: good time or not. I don't really know. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Huh, you can't tell teenagers. You can't tell they just see, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: they got to act so aloof all the time, oh yeah, okay, now, 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: a lot of laughing to themselves and everything like that. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: And I heard them in their hotel room and they 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: seem to be having good time. But like in terms 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: of just asking them questions, yeah, okay, cool, right whatever. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Just I don't know. It's that cool guy age, the 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: cool guy age. Oh my god, the amount of time 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: it takes to an effort to walk, dress, talk, the 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: way you got to be to be cool. Look, it 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: looks like a lot of work. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: I'm usually pretty good at sussing out why, you know, 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: kids and teenagers act in certain ways developmentally speaking the 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: rest of it, but the whole I don't like anything. 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm. 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Not sure what that's all about. You want to seem 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: in control. And do they associate and this is all 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is insidious or anything, because it's 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: practically universal. Yeah, but do they associate enthusiasm with childishness? 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I wonder that's a pretty good one right there. But 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: I felt like the three of them together, I mean, 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: we did some pretty cool stuff, and they saw some 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff, and I felt like they each had 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: to pretend to the other two that they weren't impressed 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: for some reason, which left me thinking, why are we 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: doing this? Is anybody enjoying this? 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: Feeling superior to things and people? It's really important to 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: teens too. That's why the you know, the social ladder 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: thing can be so brutal, because anybody you can put 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: below you elevates you, like on the class rank of coolness, 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: which is just savage and it's terrible. 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Well, here's the perfect example to make my own point, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: I suppose. So we were at the Grove, which is 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: a shopping area in Los Angeles for people who don't know, 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: very cool, upscale, outdoor, beautiful day in LA. Tons of 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: people there and everything like that, and I let them 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: walk around and do stuff. They got some food the 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Farmer's market there, and they went around, shopped at some 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: stores that they like and that sort of thing. I 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: left them alone, and I thought, all I was walking around, 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I thought they have got to be noticing the female 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: contingent here. I mean, because it was I mean between 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: the ages of like fifteen and thirty, you know, hot 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and cold, running la tan well dressed attractive women, and 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I thought they got to be noticing with teenage boys. Anyway, 54 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I brought that up on the Uber ride to the airport. 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Some attractive woman there in place. Yeah, I didn't think 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: so not. Okay, now I know you're having to put 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: on a front, because that's ridiculous. I mean, you're in 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: freaking loss upscale Los Angeles. Unless you're all three gay, 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: you're really trying too hard. 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: Well, and then at least say, I don't know about 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: the chicks, but the dudes were pretty fresh or fly 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: or whatever people say these days. Fly That one goes 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: back like twenty five thirty years, doesn't it. You know, 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: that reminds me I've got to find that hang. I'm 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: gonna make a note to myself, even as we speak. 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: NPR did a feature about dropping testosterone levels, and they 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: had all the men at the NPR station test their testosterone. 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: I haven't had an erection in a decade and a 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: half and they were all like, way sub average. Oh 70 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: really like every. 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Dude using finger quotes who worked there. It was like, uh, sorry, 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: but in the parlance of today's youth, a real beta male, 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: I mean, like a effeminate fella. And that does not 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: shock It amuses me in a way, and it confirms 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: what I've thought, Well, what you came first. I mean, 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: is there something about working at NPR that drives down 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: your just drives d levels that could happen or is 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: that just a certain sort of person that. 79 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a type and there's a lot Yeah. 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Oh I would agree, Yeah, I know some. 81 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: I hope it's nothing that these guys have been taught 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: like in school, like, oh, we don't engage in toxic masculinity. 83 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: No, it's not that. I don't think that. It was 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: just a I got to be unimpressed. It makes me 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: cooler to be unimpressed. I think that's what it was. 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you are a normal, healthy young 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: man and you see an attractive woman with whom your 88 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 3: very biology cries out for you to couple and produce young. 89 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: They say, if you say she's really good looking, I'm 90 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: gonna hit you with a bat. She's hot, pam ow 91 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: ow ow, she's really cute, pam. 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Oh god stop. You can't help yourself. 93 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: But I didn't think so. Although again, the teenage lads, 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: I give so much latitude. Adolescence is so hard and complicated. Now, 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: if you're twenty six and you're the guy says I 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: don't think she's good looking, oh. 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: My god, that's pathetic. 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: Oh it's so pathetic. I dated okay, Oh, I get it, 99 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: because you're such a stud and could have any woman 100 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: on earth. The top two percent of women isn't quite 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: hot enough for you. I get the message you're trying 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: to send, and it's sad. 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: I dated a guy like that in high school and 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: it was insufferable. He could not he could not be 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: am used by anything. And I just remember it going like, 106 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: are you are you too cool for everything? I'm not 107 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: understanding this and he actually, I don't know that he's 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: grown out of it. To be honest with you, thirty six, Now, I've. 109 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: Got to be vague about this to protect the innocent. 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: But there was somebody I know very very well who 111 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: was dating a young man who was very attractive, very smart, 112 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: great future ahead of him. But not to overstate it, 113 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: but he definitely had a mister spockish personality where he 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: wasn't like super delighted by much. Sure, he was just 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: emotionally very flat, very cool, very reserved, I mean, like 116 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: very and this is you know, this is beyond your teenagers, 117 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: and I just I think that's probably just the way 118 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: he was made. 119 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta believe in that case, since he was 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: attractive and you said had a bright future. Most of 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the people have known past being a teenager, like you know, 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: high school or high schooler is different, as you've said, 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: it's just part of the thing for whatever reason. But like, yeah, 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: you're you're thirty years old and you're not impressed by 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: anything or anyone. I've known a plenty of like real losers. 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, your dating prospects are not good, your financial 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: prospects are not good. So obviously that's a protection mechanism 128 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: if you pretend you're not interested in anybody in this 129 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: bar because you know, you feel like none of them 130 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: are interested in you. That is a help to protect you. Yeah, 131 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: and it's. 132 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: Been said of bigotry, and I think it's right that 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: a lot of it springs from people who are desperate 134 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: to feel superior to someone. Yeah yeah, I mean they 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: don't have any rational basis on which to feel superior. 136 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: They go with you know, skin color or whatever. 137 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm picturing a particular person I know, and 138 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I've known several people like that, not impressed with anybody's 139 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: car or house or anything like that because they are 140 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: never going to have anything worth a crap. So it 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: just makes it easier. I guess all the way pretty 142 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: sad and transparent, so it doesn't bother me. I mean, 143 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: I feel bad for somebody who has to do that 144 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: to get through the day, but yeah. 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's psychological self protection. I ran into somebody like 146 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: that recently too, and it hurt my heart because you know, 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: they're not a bad person, but it was definitely a 148 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: rationalizing thing. It's similar to, you know, the only way 149 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: you can be successful is because you're a cheating, you know, 150 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: white person or whatever. And it's rare that you see 151 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: somebody who's reached their full potential pitching that sort of nonsense. 152 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Uh oh, and one more thing on this, and I'm 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: just gonna have to accept this at a certain level. 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: I fight it in my own home. I've talked about 155 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: this a lot, like the stirring at your phone. I 156 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: don't want you doing it in the car with me. 157 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: I don't understood the dinner table, but this was my 158 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: son and his friends. This was kind of their weekend 159 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: for his birthday. So I'm not going to tell them 160 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: how to interact with each other. But it's amazing how 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: much time they spent looking at their phones when the 162 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: three of them are together. That's just I mean, it's 163 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: just it's the way the world's going to be. And I, 164 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I can't change it. But I just thought, wow, 165 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: it's like. 166 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: The main form of entertainment, even when you're in good company. 167 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Right and like, and we're riding around in these ubers 168 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: through Los Angeles and there's all kinds of freaking cool 169 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: things everywhere you go, or unique things you've never seen before, 170 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, I pointed out a couple 171 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: of a couple of people and they glance up for 172 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: their phone for a second, go back to their phone. 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I finally gave up on that and just not interested 174 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: in observing anything in the world other than and they're 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: playing games on their front then looking at the game 176 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: on their phone. All right, I guess yeah, I've never 177 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: seen the Hollywood sign before. Oh that's another thing. That's 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: another thing I picked up at, and that makes perfectly 179 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: good sense. The younger set has no interest in Hollywood. 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: That thing is dead as soon as like forty five 181 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: year olds grow old enough to be dead. I don't 182 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: know what the cutoff is, but the younger generation, there's 183 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: no such thing as that. I grew up with, like 184 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: Hollywood movie stars being a thing. It's not with the 185 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: younger generation. They don't even know what we're talking about. 186 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: Staying at a hotel right next to or right down 187 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: street from Warner Brothers studios, I'm thinking, oh, man, that's 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: where right, No, none of that. 189 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't mean anything to the younger crowd, which man, 190 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if Hollywood's aware of that. They probably are, 191 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: but I wonder what that is. 192 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: Maybe all the streaming services, Maybe it's lost in the 193 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: I think it's just so diffuse. 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: I guess in video gaming, and yeah, that's that's part 195 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: of it. Plus there's more transparency in the world these days. 196 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: So you just you don't think of movie actors as 197 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: these distant, superior race of humans, beings that you will 198 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: never know, you'll never touch, you'll never hear from. They 199 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: just exist on the silver screen or it carefully orchestrated 200 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: publicity events. Now, if some famous actor and his old 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: lady are bitching at each other in the streets, you 202 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: see the video on TMZ. Alrighty go out without makeup, 203 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: or scene going into a public bathroom in a park 204 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: or whatever. 205 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: You think Clary. 206 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: Goes is been affleck pooping. I'll be damn. You didn't 207 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: get that with Bogey and Picall. 208 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: No, you did not get their humbry bogar pooping. Yes, Michael, Now, 209 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: I just say. 210 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: Younger people, they can film themselves, so it's nothing special. 211 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: To be on TV. It's like, well, geez, I do 212 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: that all the time. That's not a bad point. Actually, oh, 213 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: excellent point. I say, well, you win. That is the 214 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: podcast observation of the day. Congratulations, Michael. Well, I guess 215 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: that's it.