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Speaker 2: I'd have to say baseball, because we play one hundred

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Speaker 1: What about tennis? What I mean is they're running for

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Speaker 1: I said, we're pig big.

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Speaker 1: Bowl talk before our guests join us. You were saying

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Speaker 1: before you like the Patriots. Are you still on the Patriots? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like the Patriots because you know, and moments like

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Speaker 3: these and championship games. I like to think they would

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Speaker 3: think like I would think. And I remember playing for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Got tired of sick and tired of hearing

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Speaker 3: about what Magic Johnson did. It was time for me

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Speaker 3: to create my own Lakers' legacy. So I'm sure the

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Speaker 3: Patriot Patriots are tired of hearing about what Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: and Tom Brady did. So this is how you erase

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Speaker 3: everybody's memory and start your own legacy. So hopefully they're

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Speaker 3: thinking the same way I would think.

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Speaker 1: Can I introduce Yes, you may one of I believe

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Speaker 1: both of our favorite athletes of all time. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah he was. Oh, in fact, if I may,

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Speaker 1: your favorite player's favorite player, every carry was Art. You

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Speaker 1: watch this man run in slow mo. It is Shakespeare

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Speaker 1: frickin Mozart. Defense has studied him, calling each other each

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Speaker 1: night to stay aligned. This man made grown men do

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Speaker 1: three sixties with their pride on the line, over fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand yards, one hundred touchdowns and a room full of awards.

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Speaker 1: One of the classiest to ever do it because he's

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Speaker 1: been here before. From which of taw Kansas the human joystick?

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. Hey you like that. That's the hell of

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Speaker 3: I appreciate how you doing, brother?

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Speaker 1: What'd you say about magic Man? Oh yeah, let's get

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Speaker 1: into this.

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Speaker 5: Wow that hurt me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Man, No, I have no. I was the type I

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Speaker 3: got to create certain to get me mad. So being

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Speaker 3: hear about what Matgic Johnson did. I want everybody to

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Speaker 3: when we're ready, when we get to the finals, this

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Speaker 3: you did nothing against Magic, but that's just what I

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you said you saw the uh you saw

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Speaker 3: I mean, because nobody expected the Patriots to be there. No,

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Speaker 3: let's just keep it ready. Everybody thought the Eagles were

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Speaker 3: and introduce New England to who they are.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised to hear that because but I didn't

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Speaker 1: Now he's a media guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he have to remain unbiased.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not calling the game. Like if he

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Speaker 1: and saying you don't care who wins, I don't believe him.

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Speaker 1: You are an athlete that respects other great athletes. What

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Speaker 5: Doing it, Thank you, man?

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Speaker 3: Like, what what made you get to that point? Were

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Speaker 3: damn he you know, it's like he just got in

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Speaker 3: the game. So what what made you come to that

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Speaker 3: thought process to say, you know what, I'm done playing

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Speaker 5: Well, it was it was certainly a tough decision to

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Speaker 5: blur was it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay. I rarely seen you get hit your

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Speaker 3: moves or sir, hurky jerky? Was that instinct or is

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Speaker 5: I think it was a little bit of both. I

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Speaker 1: for next year Dallas Cowboys, way too early. Are they

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Speaker 3: Just six year, twenty twenty seven super Bowl champs Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Literally impossible? They're both in ah Okay.

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Speaker 3: See, I didn't know that Cowboys listen.

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Speaker 3: I guess just jumped on me for being a Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 5: I was planning on going back to school my senior year.

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Speaker 5: My dad pulled me aside and sa, his son, you

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Speaker 5: Perfect, But for my dad, it was it was more

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Speaker 3: So mine was both. But what I what I love

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Speaker 1: And so I was wondering too, who it came from.

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Speaker 5: I mean it was just you know, for me, do

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Speaker 1: There wasn't one time where you were like, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Sha was the Undertaker Shack would That's my theme song.

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Speaker 5: Well, I you know, I mentioned like a long list

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Speaker 1: Who's the next various? I think there's one on Detroit

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Speaker 5: But good at Detroit, Well, Philly, you know, sau don't

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Speaker 5: Well saquon to say it properly, but but anytime you

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this is something obviously you can't

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. White people are Black people? Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome everybody to another edition of WPSPPS. Barry Sanders is like,

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Speaker 1: what have I just walked into? Let me just break

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Speaker 1: I'll say, wpspps, I saw this today, getting an IV

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Speaker 1: when you're hungover? Wps What do you think Barry?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: You said, yeah, and I can confirm this. I only

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Speaker 1: So you know what, I think white people might be

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Speaker 1: at the super Bowl. You answer first this time? Salad,

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Speaker 1: just salad, man, don't look to him. You got this

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Speaker 5: What do you think I'll go with?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: People like not from my community?

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Speaker 1: So white people, so professional? Do you concur? I do concur?

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Speaker 1: Do you eat salad?

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Speaker 5: Ever?

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Speaker 1: Every now and then when you're feel a little white? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, shack you go first. Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 1: That shot? No fight? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, black people, trust me?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Mary? I mean, it could be

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Speaker 5: I don't know what. I've done enough research on that one.

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Speaker 1: I understand. Uh. Running backs, Oh, BPS, we do have some?

436
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Speaker 1: You got one BPS? Got one? Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, that's it.

437
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Speaker 1: I'm scataboo. Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: Is that BPS? That's it.

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Speaker 1: We're making a run at it, though, you are. We

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Speaker 1: got cornerbacks, now you do. We've got two of them,

441
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Speaker 1: corner cornerback quarterbacks. You know. They like to buy us

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Speaker 1: for us all the time. So it's good. I got

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Speaker 1: two more Viagra. It depends on the milligram. It switches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not that I know, But I've seen on a

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Speaker 3: commercial that's twenty five one hundred.

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Speaker 1: So when does it become you said it depends on

447
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Speaker 1: the milligram.

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Speaker 3: All the commercials I've seen with one hundred milligram have

449
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Speaker 3: been the BPS has been the brothers.

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Speaker 1: So the higher the milligram, the higher the melanin incredible.

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Speaker 1: All right, and then this is an just a random one. Barry,

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Speaker 1: you can go first. Tupperware. Well BPS, Barry Sanders can

453
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Speaker 1: go first. Sorry tupperware. Do you think that is WPS.

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Speaker 5: Or BPS wps?

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, we have a split. You've just seen more

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Speaker 1: white people with tupperware.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that exists. Okay, we just in my home

458
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Speaker 5: growing up, I'm one of eleven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, plate with tinfoil exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, plate or bowl or something like that, d't tubleware.

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Speaker 1: So we had a tougherware in the grip and people

462
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Speaker 1: would come over with tougherware to get food to go.

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Speaker 1: I have witnessed that. It's pretty good. Barry. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for give it up for Barry doing WPSVPS. Yeah, somebody

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Speaker 1: is someone that you want to give a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit to you that you believe is on the rise,

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Speaker 1: someone that you go I see a lot of potential.

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Speaker 1: It could be sports, that could be anything, music or

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Speaker 1: whatever in life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow, someone who's on the rise. Well we mentioned

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Speaker 5: we mentioned Jamir, Yeah right, I mean who I think.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm hoping that his career continues the way

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Speaker 5: it has right being I'm you know, supporting the Lions

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Speaker 5: where Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would say, yeah, I would say Jamier

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Speaker 5: or who else could I pick? I would probably be

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Speaker 5: the first on my list.

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Speaker 1: Guy's got a good relationship. Yeah, absolutely, that's special because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if young guys always appreciate the guys

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Speaker 1: that came before, and I don't know if the guys

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Speaker 1: that came before always want to give time to the

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Speaker 1: younger guy. So it's cool that you two have that bond.

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, Ever since he was drafted, you know, I

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Speaker 5: met him soon after, and you know, he's one of

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Speaker 5: those guys who who at least he said he grew

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Speaker 5: up watching you know a lot of my stuff, and

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Speaker 5: we had a lot of in common because both of

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Speaker 5: us were like frustrated basketball players, you know, wanted to

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Speaker 5: be hoopers, had to set off for football. You know,

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Speaker 5: you've heard that story before. You know so so so Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: Jack thinks he would have been an all pro tight end.

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Speaker 1: He thinks red zone it up, it's over. Do you agree?

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Speaker 5: How about his blocking skills another part of your game?

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Speaker 5: Month blocked?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 5: Being the biggest one out there, you.

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Speaker 3: Don't throw it up?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good hands on, he had good hands. I can

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Speaker 5: see that.

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Speaker 1: Great hands, sir, Thank you, you're right.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you're right, great hands, great hands.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at your draft. Do you believe that

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Speaker 1: your top five of your draft was the greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time? Let me run it down for everybody in

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Speaker 1: the top five. Troy Aikman Hall of Fame, Barry Sanders

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Derek Thomas Hall of Fame, Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for the top five. No offense to

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Speaker 1: Tony Manderitch who did not. But I I think you

565
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Speaker 1: could put up your draft class against any draft class

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Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. Is there a pride

567
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Speaker 1: that comes with that?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely. I think it's It's been called that. I've

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Speaker 5: heard that many times. And you think, you think about

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Speaker 5: what those guys meant to the game, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know the multiple championship, Troy Aikman and Dion Sanders

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Speaker 5: being such a you know, great multi sport athlete in

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, and myself, you know, so so yeah,

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Speaker 5: I would I would argue that.

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Speaker 1: I'm realizing this is mister humble. And in his draft

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Speaker 1: class was Dion Sanders who said, don't even draft me.

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Speaker 1: I'll make you put me on lay away. Like he

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Speaker 1: was tellent, like he was at.

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Speaker 5: What he's always been that, yes, he's The guys are

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Speaker 5: polar opposite, h I mean even like you know, the

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Speaker 5: first time I met Dion was in college. There was

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Speaker 5: an all star team assembled to take a picture. They

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Speaker 5: had They used to have this thing called the Playboy

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Speaker 5: All American Team. We all assembled in Miami to take

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Speaker 5: a picture. And the first time I saw him, he

587
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Speaker 5: had the sunglasses on, the Jerry Currow you know, the

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Speaker 5: mister t Jewelry people around, and he was he was

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Speaker 5: at Florida State right in college. Yeah, but he was

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Speaker 5: like the guy though, but he was just you know,

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Speaker 5: that was him, absolutely and rightfully.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you guys got along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean because you know, just when

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Speaker 5: you talk from one on one, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 5: he's a cool guy.

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Speaker 1: I have not heard anyone say a single bad thing

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Speaker 1: about the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good guy. Yeah, but he he understood just

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Speaker 5: promoting himself. He understood that, and he knew the game, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, because he was getting rid. He

601
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Speaker 5: was one of those athletes getting recruited at the early age.

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Speaker 5: He had seen other athletes, and so he he knew

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Speaker 5: the business that was going on in sports and just

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Speaker 5: help promoting yourself that created more value. So he understood

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Speaker 5: that nil number would have been insane. Can I ask

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Speaker 5: you one football question? Bill Bilichick, rubber Craft not in

607
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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame this year? What's your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 5: I thought that I misread the TV right, No way

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Speaker 5: that that could be the fact. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what to tell you, honestly,

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Speaker 5: Like you know, I think it certainly makes one question,

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Speaker 5: like you know, what, what what is the Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame doing in this situation? What would you know? How

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Speaker 5: is that even possible? Right? So I was I was

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Speaker 5: shocked like a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Last question for both of you, what's the difference between

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Speaker 3: scouting and Spygate.

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Speaker 1: So scouting would be, uh, I see your plays and

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Speaker 1: then I come back and tell my team what you doing.

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Speaker 1: The spygate issue is they were recording things that you

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Speaker 1: weren't supposed to see close practices. They were going into

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Speaker 1: like private areas where they were working out and like

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Speaker 1: recording it. So it was like illegally recorded stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then the other spy Gate was recording the hands signals.

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Speaker 1: It was like explicitly recording. Oh, I'm an agreement.

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Speaker 3: Because when I played, everybody knew this is my play

627
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Speaker 3: turn five. The whole world knew that.

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Speaker 1: What happened on turn five he was going to die.

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Speaker 1: But like, hey guys, this means we're all gonna time.

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, you hear spy gay. But I'm like,

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Speaker 3: ain't that scouting? Like I see him doing this, I

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Speaker 3: see him doing that. You take it back to our

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Speaker 3: team so we can prepare, Right, So.

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Speaker 5: I can go and film, I can go and watch

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Speaker 5: your game as runout, but I can't like film your practice.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: I mean because in practice you're going to work on

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Speaker 1: certain plays, especially in football, where they literally rehearse the

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Speaker 1: first fifteen plays to get it down. Hey, we're in

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Speaker 1: agreement with you. Bill Belichick is the greatest coach that's

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Speaker 1: ever been in this league. And for him to have

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Speaker 1: to wait And I don't know if it's because Bill

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Speaker 1: Poleon's been accused of things because he was a competitor.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because of what was happening

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Speaker 1: with his girlfriend in North Carolina, if that tarnished it

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Speaker 1: just I mean, that's you know, it's been weird recently.

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Speaker 1: Can we get some love for Barry Sanders? Everybody, I

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Speaker 1: believe always want to spygate in scouting. Oh what do

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Speaker 1: we have here? It looks like we have a presentation

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders with the crisp Detroit Lions jersey too, shack

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Speaker 1: the two zero with the white that's going on the wall.

652
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Speaker 1: It is turn it around, Turn it around. A juggernaut,

653
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: a cheat code, a true one of one. His enemies

654
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: were filled with fear before the game even begun. Touchdowns.

655
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: On Sunday home runs in May, you'd run a four

656
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: to one three at two thirty Olympic speed on display.

657
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: This man broke batsnap pads had defenders, chasing shadows, and

658
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: if any man on this Earth knows Bo knows from Bessemer, Alabama,

659
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes in the history of planet Earth.

660
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Bow Freakin' Jackson, give it up for him.

661
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: Shack said that with your version of rap.

662
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: This is my Hamilton, is what you're saying. Wes.

663
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: So, Charles Barkley always talks about he's the greatest athlete

664
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: at Auburn. Do you have anything to say about that

665
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: greatest me? Not one of the great He says, he's

666
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: the greatest athlete in Auburn history. We let Chuck have

667
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: that title, just to shed him the hell up. That's

668
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: what we do. I agree. I agree.

669
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: So I call him number one and I let him

670
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: call me number two. And I'm fine with that because

671
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: once you do that, you ain't got to hear him

672
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: no more.

673
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: Good point. It's a pleasant no way that Chuck really

674
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: thinks he's the nurse.

675
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: No, we have to tell him that.

676
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: I understand. That'll save us all, especially you, because you

677
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: wear you out. He does you out. I want to

678
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: kill him. I'm curious. We just had Barry in this seat.

679
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: There's a very select number of running backs that you

680
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: can put on that mount rushmore. What is the level

681
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: of respect between you two?

682
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Put it to you like this back when I played,

683
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: if I wasn't playing person that I like to watch

684
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: was barrass him human joystick. Catt will make you trust

685
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: me when I say this. He has made god break.

686
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: He has made guys break.

687
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Their ankles, actually break ankles.

688
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: Actually bust their ankles, surgery after season. Damn, he's he

689
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: cut on you get six and get you change back.

690
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: He's a bad man. You made me mad one day.

691
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: You almost made me break my leg. I saw your

692
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: break a bat and tried to break a bat.

693
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: Jerome showed me the clip. I was like, I can

694
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: do it if you did it. I almost broke my

695
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: goddamn knee. How did you do it? Did you practice

696
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: or was it just you just did it? That's frustration.

697
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: And I didn't do it.

698
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: I took it out on the bat because I failed

699
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: to do my job. I couldn't. I failed to get

700
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: the runner off third base. I failed to get that

701
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: score in.

702
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm strong. I break back boys. But when I did that,

703
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: I had to do it like three It still didn't break.

704
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: I had do it like three times, Like what the

705
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: how many baths.

706
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Did you break like that? Did You didn't do one

707
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: over your head? Did you?

708
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

709
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: One time you did.

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: It's just frustration because I didn't do my.

711
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Job, and just primal. You're just feeling at that time

712
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that the anger came out.

713
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: All that energy that I was supposed to put into that

714
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: baseball a mile, I put it into breaking the bat.

715
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: We've had this conversation a million times. Which sport has

716
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: the best athletes? You are one of the few that

717
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: played two at a supremely high level. If we're taking

718
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: in all of them, all of the sports, what factors

719
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: into it and where do you typically decide it's endurance?

720
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: I'd have to say baseball, because we play one hundred

721
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: and sixty two games, and saying that for this only reason.

722
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: In your prime, could you play one hundred and sixty

723
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: two games with about in those six one hundred and

724
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: six sixty two games, you'd have about four or five

725
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: days off. In those days off, you're traveling to the

726
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: next town. Football, So godn't do it three weeks in

727
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: a row.

728
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: I got white people. What about tennis? What I mean

729
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: is they're running for five and a half hours.

730
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: Next, what's your next question? You're talking about ten.

731
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Okay, what you're just saying, Okay, So I don't think

732
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: there's any way baseball is harder than football. I just

733
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: you're standing around a lot.

734
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: That's what I say. But I challenge you to try

735
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: to do it.

736
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh I can't do any of them, no, so I

737
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: I What you're saying, though, is the endurance of every

738
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: single day you're football. It's intense and it's for three hours.

739
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Baseball you play nine innes every night, sometimes sometimes in

740
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: one day, sometimes two games on Sundays, double hitters. Check

741
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: out it this way. If your stadium isn't a dome,

742
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: and you get rained, you don't get home till after midnight,

743
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: get up the next day, go back and do the

744
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: same thing, go back and do the same thing.

745
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: It's definitely repetitive.

746
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: We have a day off on Thursday. Guess what that

747
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: day off, we're planing to Seattle.

748
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: So when you left baseball and then we're doing football,

749
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: you were like, this is actually not that bad. I

750
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: got like four days off during the week.

751
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: I have four days off. I went home and knocked

752
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: up my wife.

753
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: How many kids? You got?

754
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 2: Three nice, all born exactly two years apart. I told

755
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: I told herm when we were dating, I said, Hey,

756
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: I want three kids. I'm gonna have three kids, two

757
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: boys and a girl, two years apart exactly.

758
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: And it happened. I also like, I'm curious, you know

759
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: the difference between a locker room and a clubhouse. I

760
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: read that you were shooting bows and arrows in the clubhouse. Baseball,

761
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. What is that from your mind?

762
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: A football locker room and a baseball And then I'm

763
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: curious what a basketball locker room comp because it's it's

764
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: different camaraderie based on the sport.

765
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: Baseball locker room, it's more laid back because you got

766
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: your white guys. Yeah, you got your brothers, you got

767
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: your Latin guys. Everybody got their own music. You got

768
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Latin in this corner, you got country over here, and

769
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: you probably got wrapped over here in this corner.

770
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: And then when you.

771
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: Mix it all together, it's a nightclub in the clubhouse.

772
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: But when the time to go out and play, you

773
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: turn all that. Oh, you go do what you gotta do.

774
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: So that's our way of relaxing in football. The way

775
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 2: I would relax before a game is I take himnap

776
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: before we go out on the field. Howie Long, he

777
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: was the only person that I gave the permission to

778
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: wake me up at before a game. Some guys try

779
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: to wake me up early, and how I went to

780
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: now let that asleep, and he's one of the last

781
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: ones to go out. He get up and kick me.

782
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: Hey boss, his time to go to work, Get up

783
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: and go. So it's different the way you prepare yourself

784
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: for the game, because I only know I got one

785
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: hour to go out there and work fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes.

786
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: So for a few years you just looked up and

787
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: saw that flat top.

788
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: Number seventy five, big dog, Let's go to work.

789
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: And then what's a basketball locker room like compared to that?

790
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: Similar to both music in the beginning, but when it's

791
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: time to go to work, it goes to work. But

792
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: I never allowed no other music, rap music only.

793
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I in your locker I

794
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: have to imagine you controlled the music. Everybody listened. Of

795
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: course you said no rap music. No, I controlled the

796
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: music only rap music, only rap music. And if you

797
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: look back at your career, was there a certain generations

798
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: or like artists that you would play the most? Just

799
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: whoever you know whoever is you seemed like a biggie guy.

800
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Is the reason.

801
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: Biggie west Coat whatever, you know, whatever was hot at

802
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: the time we've played.

803
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: He said, white people and black people. Can I do

804
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: white people? I not yet.

805
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: I got one more question. My favorite clip of you,

806
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: you have a lot of great clips, is when you

807
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: ran over Brian Bosworth. My favorite clip ever. Has there

808
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: ever been a guy that you said, Oh my god,

809
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: I don't want to face this guy. Not this guy

810
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: A yet. I don't know the brother's name he played

811
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: for it. I think when when the Cardinals was in

812
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: Saint Louis Raider Stadium and you not the brother had

813
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: muscles in his breath. No, but y'all laughing, and we

814
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: were in a trap where I go here and cut

815
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: back and go backside. He was the backside linebacker, and

816
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: he mustle knew I played. Somebody probably gave him signal

817
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: because when I got the ball and went here, and

818
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: right when I turned to cut back, he hit me

819
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: on the let's say the six or seven yard line,

820
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: dropped me on the two. And when that happened, and

821
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who missed the block? This brother

822
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: helped me up said bowl.

823
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Look, you gotta work hard on that because my boss

824
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: is up in the stands and I'm trying to get

825
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: a raise, So come on, you gotta work hard and

826
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: help me up. Got me back over the door, and

827
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: I'm asking the line who missed that block? Because that's

828
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 2: what you do. Two series later, they ran that same play.

829
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: You think I cut it back? No, Si, Nope, no

830
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: muscles in his breath.

831
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: You only got to touch a hot skillet. Wants you

832
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: know it's hot? Right? You do?

833
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: That's all you gotta do.

834
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Before we get this taste. There is a very special

835
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: person that I want to experience this flavor, and so

836
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Shack has saved it for this person. I'm going to

837
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: give her an introduction because the General went out on

838
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: the streets of San Francisco and found people and said,

839
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: who's your favorite athlete, And when the first person said Shack,

840
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: they got excited. Four girls, zero sleep, twin still in diapers.

841
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: Primary parent, calendar keeper, tougher than a firefighter. Coach's wife

842
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: holding it down while he's constantly on the road, her

843
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: kid's personal chef, laundry for six people. She puts in

844
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: another load from the Bay Area. She's been a cheerleader

845
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and an oh a nurse. Tonight, she is the winner

846
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: of the General's Big Break. Give it up, everybody for

847
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: Tina Plank. So Tina was on the streets, not literally,

848
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: but General was interviewing people and she wanted to hang

849
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: out with Shack and experience some three Michelin star food. So, Tina,

850
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: you are a Shaquille O'Neal fan.

851
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 7: And if they asked me what I like to meet

852
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 7: this weekend, and naturally I should have said NFL legend

853
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 7: that I threw her ball, and I was like shock, random,

854
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 7: and they told you I would get my big break.

855
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what that is here, and so

856
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: we thought it would be nice hang out with Shaq.

857
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: This is some of the best food in the world.

858
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: They prepared plates for you so that you can taste

859
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: everything and enjoy it. But that's what your friends at

860
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: the General do, Shaq, Thank you man. So he coaches

861
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: basketball at the University of San Francisco.

862
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's getting ready for Saint Mary's tomorrow.

863
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna leave a message for a husband, you guys.

864
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 7: Know at home, My holy like let's go over chicken

865
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 7: nuggets and like pizza cross.

866
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: So this is so special. Coach.

867
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: What are you doing brother? And with your lovely wife.

868
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: We're trying a spare guess. Want to say good luck

869
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Speaker 1: To the to the athlete thing. Who do you answer

912
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: is the greatest athlete of all time? See I'm old

913
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: school like Jim Thorpol's. I never watched not that Okay, Sorry,

914
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I was the only name I had down. Dude was incredible.

915
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Speaker 2: When I was a kid, we had a TV that

916
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Speaker 2: had three channels on period. Mama said, once you get breakfast,

917
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Speaker 2: take your outside and I want to see you till

918
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Speaker 2: this evening. Stay in the yard.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 2: So whenever we did watch TV, it was a days

921
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: when Earl Campbell was young, Walter Payton just come on

922
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Speaker 2: the scene. Larry's uncle was on the scene. It was

923
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 2: those guys, and my cousin was a Larry's uncle fan.

924
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: I was an Earl camra He he had a Miami

925
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Dolphins jersey and I'm like, wow, wish I had that

926
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: damn jersey. Then Earl Camill come on the scene and

927
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: he trucking guy. I said, that's a guy that I

928
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: want to run like, that's a guy I want to

929
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: be like, didn't know anybody else. Then the Walter Payton's

930
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: come on the scene, Eric Dickerson's and all those guys

931
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: and me. I was a natural runner because I'm used

932
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: to running from whippings. Mama said, catch him or you're

933
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: gonna take his whipping. Then they caught me, drove me

934
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: back like a runaway slave.

935
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm scream Did you ever get an Earl Campbell jersey? No?

936
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: Did you own any jerseys?

937
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: I never collected sports per from here, gotcha? Never did

938
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: you have jerseys?

939
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: Growing up? Only had one Doctor Jack. That was the

940
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: guy dude. When we interviewed Doctor j it was the

941
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: first time. Shaq was like really early to the podcast

942
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: and he was dressed so well. I'd never seen Shack

943
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: nervous before, and like doctor J was out, Jack was

944
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: like doctor J's in my house right now. It was awesome.

945
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Doctor J will do that to you.

946
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: I asked let Bury this same question, and I hate

947
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: it when they asked me this question. So aster, who

948
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: do you see that reminder of yourself in today's game?

949
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: Who's the next Bo Jackson?

950
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: I'll see three kids that are playing now that remind

951
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: me of myself. Derrick Kenyon, Sakon, Barkley b John Robertson,

952
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: Three hard runners. Yes, three hard One is that know

953
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: how to go to work and take care of his business,

954
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: and they do it. If I had Derrik Kenyr's arm land,

955
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: I never get tackle man. He got arms at four

956
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: feet long so he can step farm you and go

957
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: on about his business. He's a big strong kid. He's

958
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: a big strong kid. I don't watch football, but I

959
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: keep up with those three guys cause.

960
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned's next level.

961
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 3: Yes.

962
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Do you do you assume that when you meet someone

963
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: in their name is Bo, they were named after you?

964
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

965
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: I do too. Like if I meet someone under like

966
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: thirty and their names Bo, I'm like their parents loved

967
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson.

968
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: Somebody tell me, Hey, my cousin named is song after you?

969
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: My brother's name after you. Have you ever have you

970
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: ever heard somebody say they named the dog after you?

971
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, oh yeah me too.

972
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah dog hors.

973
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: Pet rooster, a pet rooster named Bo.

974
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 3: Yes.

975
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: The Shack's follow up question is going to be where

976
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: they where they black dogs? Because Shack has only even

977
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: named after black labs, after black labs.

978
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: Black labs, right wallers and do BPD black people dogs?

979
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Black people dogs? All right, it's time to play w

980
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: ps or BPS, white people or black people bo. I'm

981
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: gonna ask you generic things. You tell me if they're

982
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: black people or white people. We're going to start off

983
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: with the name Bo. Is the name Bo black people,

984
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: black people, bow nicks. There's the whites are starting to

985
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: I think of country guys like I'm starting to think

986
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: of like white country guys named No.

987
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: No, white guys named Bo trademark in frenchmen.

988
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: We will get that copyrighted. I don't know if you've

989
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: seen them around San Francisco. I have WAYMO the car,

990
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: the automated cars, white people, Well, why is it white people?

991
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: I agree? But I'm curious why you say that would

992
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: you get into one of them with no no, you

993
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: would not no shack. I think you would. I think

994
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: you'd be curious. I did, okay, but it was for

995
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: a short ride. What did you think. I haven't been

996
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: in one.

997
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: I was nervous. But they actually do a good job.

998
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: I actually confession town. Whenever I see one, I try

999
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: to get in front of them and jam on the

1000
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: breaks and make them crash. They do a great job.

1001
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Wait. So if you're driving in front of a way

1002
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: moo and you're like watch this, yeah, and some hills

1003
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: to the left ago wow, And when you were sitting

1004
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: in with you going where you're going, Damn, I'm doing

1005
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: some white people right now.

1006
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: I was just I mean, because you know, you hear

1007
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: about it. I was like, no way, this this, this

1008
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: car with nobody is going to take me to this.

1009
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: So I was in Vegas. It's one place, and I

1010
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: ordered it and I got in and you're sitting in

1011
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: there and you see the wheel move myself, you're just

1012
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 3: doing this and they go like he got into my destination.

1013
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, all right, I don't know the

1014
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: answer to this one driving with the windows open bps. Wait,

1015
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: he was going to disagree.

1016
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: What did you think driving with the windows open? Yeah,

1017
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: that depends on where the hell you are?

1018
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Give me, give me somewhere. Is it white people? Where

1019
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: is the black people? This is great? I was thinking

1020
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: in front of a club with the system in. This's BPS.

1021
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: What about like down a country road and doing this

1022
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: with your arm? No white people? Yeah, white people? Yeah,

1023
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I agree, Okay, country road, white people, that's good. A

1024
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: wing flat, like if you eat a chicken wing, the

1025
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: flat part, the flats, yeah, that's white people. And then

1026
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: drums like the drumstick like the fat part. No. Like,

1027
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: so there's a drumstick and then there's a flat.

1028
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: If you take a winging ever, the flat and the drumstick.

1029
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know the name of the the one

1030
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: that got the two bottles in.

1031
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: It, Yes, that's flat, okay, and the one that looks

1032
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: like a piece of okay, yeah, got it? So which

1033
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: one is WPS? Which one the flat? And then what

1034
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: about a drum that's BPS? Do you agree with that?

1035
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: That depends if it's gal let's.

1036
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Say it's fried, classic fried. Okay. What about what about

1037
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: like buffalo sauce? Buffalo sauce and you dip it in

1038
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: like a.

1039
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: Blue cheese on that shack. Answer that one.

1040
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: I think fermented cheese. White people love that w ranch WPS.

1041
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Then what is the black the BPS condiment? Honey mustard.

1042
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: I love honey mustard all right. Last one, hard boiled eggs.

1043
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: Now I eat whole botty eggs BPS.

1044
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: Okay. I think hardbowed eggs are all people, and that's

1045
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: why we should all come together one more round for

1046
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: white people, black people. Okay. Bo was not afraid to

1047
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: answer those questions at all. This man jumped. He was

1048
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: a seven foot high jumper in high school. When what

1049
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: was the age where someone said to you, you're a

1050
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: different kind of athlete. How early did people recognize it?

1051
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: I was nine years old, and was.

1052
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: There an action that happened or a race.

1053
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Or I became the catcher My little league baseball season

1054
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: was over, and the guys that play on the men's

1055
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: Industrial League. The catcher wrecked on his motorcycle, broke his ankle.

1056
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: They needed a catcher. I caught and first guy got

1057
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: on base, or I stell. I threw him out on

1058
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: my knees, then got up and hit a home run

1059
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: at nine years.

1060
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Old against grown men in an industrial.

1061
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: Grown men in their twenties, and after the game, their

1062
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: coach walked over to him and said, hey, little little man.

1063
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,959
Speaker 2: He said, hey, if you come play for my team

1064
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: next year, by your brand new brand, by your brand

1065
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: new ten s feet, and my coach heard him, and

1066
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: they damn near went the blows.

1067
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: That was like the first recruiting violation in the history

1068
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: of sports.

1069
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: I could have got my first nil. Yeah, like in

1070
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: the early seventies. Where do you think I've been to

1071
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: be alliens? I think it's teaching young kids how to

1072
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: run away from their problems. Number two, it's ruining college sports.

1073
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: And what it's done is that for me the way

1074
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: I see it, this is my opinion, nobody else. What

1075
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: they've done, in short is they let the horses out

1076
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: the bar and forgot the close gate, and they ain't

1077
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: getting them horses back in the bar. You giving the

1078
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: kids all this money, nobody have no financial sense, and

1079
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: their agents aren't telling them. They going out spending money

1080
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: like it is growing on trees. They're driving cars and

1081
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: wearing jewelry that costs more than their parents home, and

1082
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: it's just it's just ridiculous. You get pissed off because

1083
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: I yelled at you for doing the dumb things on

1084
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 2: the field. So you're gonna go into the transport portal

1085
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: and take that money with you. No, it shouldn't work

1086
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 2: like that, because if are you gonna sign a contract

1087
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: and come play with me, you gotta adhe to the rules,

1088
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: just like the professional players.

1089
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: Do agree, bottom Ael? I agree?

1090
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 5: Oh?

1091
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Do you eat candy? This is the new Shacklicious Slams.

1092
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: What you were to running backs, this is to candy. Whoa,

1093
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: what is this? We have the Shacklicious Slams. Cake turn

1094
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: around show the character.

1095
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: No, it's not my birthday.

1096
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: I think that this is the supercation of the new Candy.

1097
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: That is the shack Delicious Slams. If you look at

1098
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: the Shacklicious Slams, bo Jackson not to be a creepy

1099
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: guy in a van. There is hoops and there are

1100
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: balls to dunk in the hoop.

1101
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Oh that's what the one is? Just the big ones.

1102
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: That's your face. Yes, I ate some of them back

1103
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: on the table. Okay, did you like it?

1104
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like them. I appreciate you. Oh would you

1105
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: like to dunk a slam into the cake into the hoop?

1106
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna eat that cake? Man? I don't want to

1107
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: put my hands on it. Then get on it. Come on, now,

1108
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: you like, would you like to shoot one?

1109
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm with bo I want to touch it. Somebody gonna

1110
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: eat that cake.

1111
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's just for show. I don't know if

1112
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: anyone's actually that's white people. Yes, yeah, white people are like,

1113
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: what's that? Yeah, and then put my finger in my mouth. No,

1114
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think this is just for show.

1115
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: If you take a shot, Shack will give you a

1116
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: thousand dollars if you make it. If you make it

1117
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: into that one, Shack will give you a thousand dollars.

1118
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: Which one?

1119
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: That one?

1120
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: I can't make it, see, I can't.

1121
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: God make it? Oh it was close. Shack shots. Yeah,

1122
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: take a shot. This is a shack slams. There's two

1123
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: stuck together.

1124
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: Come closer. I'm closer.

1125
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I always do. Oh, that's what

1126
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: I always do. Perfect.

1127
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: That's a real cake. Oh I'm sorry cake. Yeah?

1128
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 1: Now jack with bow here They want me to ask

1129
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: with because you just dunked and knock that off. Do

1130
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: you know what blind ranking is? No, it's where I'm

1131
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: going to give you five things and in order that

1132
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: you don't know let's do it and you can tell

1133
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: me one through five and Bo you could help. It

1134
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: is Shack's best dunks of all time. First one that

1135
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna rank Kobe's alley oop to Shack in the

1136
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: playoffs when he threw it down and then ran down

1137
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: the court with his hands in the air. One you

1138
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: could put it one, two, three, four or five where

1139
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: you think it could go. He's putting it at three, Shack.

1140
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: Where would you put it? We'll go he would put

1141
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: it at two. Shaq dunking on David Robinson in the

1142
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: All Star Game, which I know felt so good to you.

1143
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: Three two, so you'd flip them back. Yeah, quick aside.

1144
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: David Robinson was your motivation. He was one of those

1145
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: guys that was in the league before you and you

1146
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: were chasing. Did you have something like that in the

1147
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: league where there was some guy that you like, an

1148
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: idol that you were looking at that you're like, I'm

1149
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: going to case and make him human to solidify my greatness.

1150
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Did you have that guy? No? I never you were

1151
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: standing alone and I.

1152
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 2: Was running when people chasing me, especially in the football game.

1153
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't running for history or anything like that. I

1154
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: was running because in my mind goes back to when

1155
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: I was a kid from my mama. You don't catch him. Yeah,

1156
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: take So I'm not running from the defense. I'm running

1157
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: from my brother and sisters. Every long run I had,

1158
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: I never worried about them because I'm thinking my brothers

1159
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: and sisters right behind me.

1160
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: They gonna catch me and take me home, and my

1161
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: mama gonna tell me. So that's me.

1162
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: No, that was what you were running. Speaking of tearing

1163
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: the dunk where you tear down the stanchion and the

1164
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: entire New Jersey, Yes, the entire basket. That's your number one. Wow?

1165
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: Uh you dunking on on Chris Dudley and then pushing

1166
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: him down four four, that was my one. It was

1167
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: that was the opposite of Barry Sanders what you did

1168
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: on that. And then the last one was NBA inside

1169
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: stuff when you broke the glass on camera five five.

1170
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: So your stand what talk take me through? Why was

1171
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: that your number one? Why was that your favorite dunk?

1172
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 3: Because so I've only been dunked on twice my whole.

1173
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: Career, Derek Coleman and Michael Jordan.

1174
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so every time I played against Derek Coleman, I

1175
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: wanted to I was. I was very upset and very

1176
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: enry because he dunk on me in Jersey in front

1177
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: of the family and he did like this, yeah yeah, yeah.

1178
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: So like every time I played against the Nets, I

1179
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: wanted to actually rip it down. So that day I

1180
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: actually told Uncle Jerome I was gonna rip it down,

1181
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 3: and I did you know, it's crazy they drug tested

1182
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: me twice after the game.

1183
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: I would have drug tested you too. Why you did

1184
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: something that I don't think anyone thought was humanly possible.

1185
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: That thing looked like it weighed two tons and you

1186
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: brought it down. Yeah, brother, we're testing you know.

1187
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: What they found frusted flicks.

1188
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: And just to kind of I don't know if you

1189
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: have anything more what this guy meant to you. I'm curious.

1190
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: I want to thank you all right. When you did

1191
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: the Bold Nose commercials, they really focused on branding and

1192
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: made people say, include myself, I want to be like that.

1193
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: So so thank you for being inspiration to me. And

1194
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: I've been knowing you for a long time. You've always

1195
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: been nice and I appreciate you. Tell me about your podcast.

1196
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 3: My podcast called Bold Nose Men's Health. One thing that

1197
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: we don't do that women out shining us in is

1198
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: talk about their personal issues. Women aren't afraid to talk

1199
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: about breast cancer, cervical cancer, having a mistake to me,

1200
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: you name it, menopause. They have lunch parties where they

1201
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: get together and go down to the restaurant, have a

1202
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 3: glass of wine and some dip, and they talk about

1203
01:02:59,440 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: all the issues.

1204
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: We as men, we don't do that. It's taboo for us.

1205
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: How many men in here by hands has had a

1206
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: conversation with your budget is about I wake up two

1207
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: three times a night. Just take a leak, I'll get

1208
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: a bad night rests nobody. How many guys sit up

1209
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: and talk about even if you got it or you

1210
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: don't have it, an ED problem?

1211
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: Nobody all the time.

1212
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm just getting shut Out's just.

1213
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: Nobody, Right, But you turn the TV on, get on

1214
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: your computer. There's ED commercials all over the place.

1215
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so clearly it's an issue.

1216
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: We sit there and read about it, but we don't

1217
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: talk about it. Me and myself last October, this past October,

1218
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: I had my proce state taken out period because they

1219
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: found my year. Just found two spots, tiny spots on

1220
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: my procesac. Did you get a check before, Yes, But

1221
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: I've been getting checked for for fifteen twenty years now.

1222
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: The thing about it is that he said, bo if

1223
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: I had twenty other patients and I told them what

1224
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: I just told you, that you have two tiny spots

1225
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: on the left side of you, and your pros say,

1226
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: he said, nine percent of my patient would probably say

1227
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: let's treat it with radiation, and you said take it out.

1228
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: And the reason I said that is because I don't

1229
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: want to be selfish and take quality time away from

1230
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: my family. I got two grand boys, love them to death,

1231
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: best gift God has ever given me, Aiden and Leo.

1232
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: I want to be around and watch them play Little

1233
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: league ball, take their first dive off the diving board,

1234
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: take them out in the yard, get in the go cart,

1235
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: drive through the mud puddles. That's what I look forward

1236
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: to doing now.

1237
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: But when you sit up and.

1238
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: Say, oh, let's treat it, let's do the seeds, let's

1239
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: do radiation, there's only two undefeated entities that I know of,

1240
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: and that's Mother Nature. She's a bad and cancer. You

1241
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: can't fight them. You can probably stave them all for

1242
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: a while, but they're gonna eventually win. So I chose no,

1243
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: take my process out. First thing, men think what you

1244
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: guys think when you say, oh, you need to take

1245
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: your proset out. We started thinking, with our small minds,

1246
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have ed problem that goes my sex life.

1247
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a man.

1248
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: That's book.

1249
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna be selfish enough to think about that than

1250
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: ruin your family's life. You rather wake up every morning

1251
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: looking over your shoulder and say, oh, I wonder if

1252
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: that if cancer is back from getting treatment or saying, Doc,

1253
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: get it out. I don't want to deal with it

1254
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: so I can live my life. But we as men,

1255
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: we don't talk about that because, like I said, with

1256
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: our minds, our small minds, we don't want people to

1257
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: look at us as not being a whole man. We

1258
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: don't want people to look at us as we're weak.

1259
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: We don't want people to look at us and say, hey,

1260
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: he has a chink in his armor. We don't talk

1261
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: about it. So what I'm trying to do is use

1262
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: my platform to make America ware. And I'm not saying

1263
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: that I know this by studying or reading a book.

1264
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: I've experienced it. Nobody knew until this week when I

1265
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: was accept the people close to me. When I was

1266
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: twenty years old in college, I woke up one morning,

1267
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: get ready to go to class, went to use the bathroom.

1268
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: We have to flush your toilet, blood in the stool.

1269
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: Scared out of me, literally literally, Yeah. I go to

1270
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: the training tell the truck he said, all right, we're

1271
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: gonna play this game tomorrow. When out told that out

1272
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: of somebody, But it's Saturday. Everything's closed on Sunday. Monday morning,

1273
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: I had my first colon oxtery at twenty. They found

1274
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: the polom polyp is a pre cancer's growth. If you

1275
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: let it go, it's gonna form into cancer. Perfect example

1276
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: Chadwick bost. It does a process cancer colding cancer. So

1277
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: so so if I was young, when I was young

1278
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: and things like young people do that, I'm invincible. I'm

1279
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: gonna let this slide, maybe able to get better. I

1280
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: would have been gone by forty here, So I consider

1281
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: myself lucky. And the thing about it, if we don't

1282
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: make a miracle aware of this, like women have, I

1283
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: want to change that. I call it peeling the layers

1284
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: off the onion, because everybody in this room, trust me,

1285
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: got something, got something going on. It's only natural for

1286
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: a man to have prostate issue as we get older

1287
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: to hell. I'm sixty three.

1288
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate you talking about it, and check if you

1289
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about your penis issues. This is a

1290
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: safe space. Okay. You know now Bose talked about I

1291
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: think we need to put full podcast Shaq. What's going

1292
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: on down Shaq? But and I can tell you this,

1293
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: if you worry about getting it up, listen, this is great.

1294
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: After your pro sate, they got the fact that to

1295
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Speaker 2: make that little blue peel of like a punk Wow.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred fellow call me. I give it up everybody

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Speaker 1: for Bo Jackson brother, Thank you. This has been a

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