1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: I can't really play free and play really well if 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing. So that's the that's 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: the goal, is just to master with the offense by 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: time training camp comes around. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters, presented 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Osher, 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, and J. P. Shadman. Presended by t I 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: A A Bank starts right now. Welcome in to Jaguars 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Reporters today as Monday, June fourteenth, JP Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan, 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: John Osier and Bucky Brooks in the flesh right. Hello, 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Bucky loved him right in the building. I get a 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: chance if you wanted to reporters, I'm off the shirt. 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I see the Jaguar logo. I'm making logo matters to me. 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Yes it does. We've talked to Bucky for like a 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: year and a half. We've never been a person. He 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: walked in. I was like, wait a minute, Buck, he's 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: here today. I know it was coming, but pretty cool. 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: John happy here? Yeah, I guess it's it's uh. I 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: would probably air on the side of hey, Buck, how 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: you doing right and having a party, But I'm good 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: with it. You can roll that red carpet right back up, Bucky. 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't need that anymore. I never get this kind 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: of reception on there every day. So yeah, that's fine. 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: There's a reason for that, John, there's a reason you 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: don't get that every day. Yeah, here's what's going on 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: this week, Manda Joy mini camp underway and it started 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: today and it ends tomorrow. They've taken a day off 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: the schedule, trimmed it up a little bit, and you know, 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: they've been they've really been doing a lot of work 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: in the o t a period, so you know, trim 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: off a day at the end, they got a lot 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: of work in today, Ashland and you know, throw a 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: bone and get him out of here to day early. Yeah. 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: We've seen in the past couple of years where it's 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: either the training camp or the the vote for they'll 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: have bowling day or team bonding day. I think coach 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Meyer and the coaching staff understands, let's just get these 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: guys out of here to their families. That's what they 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: want to do. It's been a it's been a long 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and I think they are in it. Yeah, 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I agree. I think they have really been going at it. 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think right now, when we've seen the things 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: around the league where we've seen some of the injuries 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: and things pop up, I think the number one goal 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: is to get everyone to training camp. You want to 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: get everyone to training camp, everyone healthy, ready to go, 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: so you can tack that part of the preseason, and 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: then the goal after that is to see if we 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: can get everybody to the regular season ready. Rock Well, 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: you sent a good message too. They had almost participation 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: in O t A s. If you hadn't had that 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: level of participation, then you make sure that they work 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: all three days of many camp. You had huge participation, 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: so you should have gotten what you needed to do done. 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: And I would think it's a message of the players 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: that hey, show up for everything and I'll throw you 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: a bone back And Houston canceled a whole mini camp 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: all together. Go to the participation buck. What in the world. 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean we're saying there like it's funny, because the 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: conversation at the beginning of the off season was all 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: we can get these guys to show up and participating. 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Then we get them there and everyone's like, oh no, 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: everyone go home. And so I think it's just part 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: of the off season headlines, where as much ado about nothing. 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I have a questioned though the scout are we staying 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: are we staying all? Are the players sort of winning 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: this a little bit overall? Meaning you cancel the mini 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: camps because you showed up pro t A. Other teams 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: are sort of some teams are not having anything. Are 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: we going to go back to where every team considers 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: it absolutely vital that you have all thirteen and any 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: point or are we going to see a gradual ebbing 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: of maybe this isn't as important as we once thought. 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: I think we'll see probably modifications continue. I think we'll 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: see some of the stuff that you guys have talked about, 75 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: seeing the individual work, the skill development work, maybe not 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the competitive periods. So you see the guy's work on 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: their individual drills that work on things to become better players. 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: They'll do small group work, they'll do more walk through 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: run through stuff as opposed to the seven H seven 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: nine O seven eleven on eleven competitive things that we're 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: used to seeing in some of these off seasons. Yeah, 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: it's it's been hard to kind of take headlines from 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: these practices. And we talked about there's no winner or 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: a loser I'm not gonna lie today. I was like, man, 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know. It's right down. Okay, they can 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: They worked out today is what they did. Yeah, I 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: mean it's fine. But I think Urgan feels that way too. 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: I mean it's he's new to that. He's just fresh 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: in this. He's always dealt with Tom and he's made 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: several illusions dude, no winner or loser. I you know, 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see what he tries to 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: get out of next year's considering what he learned about this, 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: because he kept going back to that no winner or 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: losing thing. Yeah, I'm not sure that he loves being 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: on the field if there's no winner or loser. So 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: you wonder how he'll adjust next year to try and 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: get the most out of it. As we said on 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Pod last week, he'll make up for 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: it come training camp. Will be plenty of plenty of 100 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: points to have winners and losers. Yeah, no, it is. 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: It is funny because for him, I guess the offseason 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: O T A program would be like spring ball. But 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: the problem is in college two spring balls with pats, 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: you're going, you're building up to a spring game, and 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: now you don't have that. And in the prose, you're 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: trying to preserve your players, you're trying to develop them. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: You don't want to have injuries. Particularly the coaches won't 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: admit this, but they hear what's going on around the league. 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: No one wants any of that to happen to one 110 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: of the players that you're counting on. Definitely not one 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: of our other big points this week. Trevor Lawrence well 112 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: last week and organized team activities, came up with a 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: hamstring issue. Didn't do a lot today Ashland. We did 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: hear from him after practice though, he says and urban 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Meyer said that if it was a game week, he 116 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: would play all that. Well, it's not a game week. 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: It's June fourteenth, So Trevor just kind of stand back 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: there out of the way and uh, enjoy the ice pack, right. 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a It seems like he's got his 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: head on straight. Everything is still going well above the 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: shoulders for Trevor, and the offense is coming along. It's 122 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: kind of what you expect to hear this time of year, though. 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, and I liked how you was 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: honest that it's frustrating. He'd like to be out there 125 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: doing his thing. But he doesn't need to be. We 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: know what he is. We've seen when he can do hamerstring. 127 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: We've seen it around here with Leonard for Nett. That 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: can be such a nagging injury, and that's the last 129 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: thing you want right now. We won't seem on the 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: field tomorrow. I think he'll be great for training camp, 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: but I totally see why there's no reason to risk it, 132 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: even if it's a risk. No. I think, Look, he's 133 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: really ahead of schedule based on what we thought was 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: going to happen prior to the draft with the arm 135 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and the shoulder and going through that surgery and those things. 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Were actually able to see him throw the ball around 137 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and do some of that stuff. So No. One goal 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: is to get Trevor ready to go to kind of 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: see where he is and how far they can go 140 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the depth of the playbook before he's 141 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: ready to play in Week one. That that's ultimately what 142 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: training camp is about. Training camp is about getting Trevor 143 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence ready to play and ready to have a successful 144 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Week one and first quarter this season. Remember too. Subscribe 145 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you download your podcast, give us five stars 147 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: and your comments. We've moved out to big things for 148 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: this Monday, June fourteen, Ashland Sullivan get a store. Yeah. 149 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: So I have had the privilege of helping out the 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: social media department and during O t a sum out 151 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: there every morning. Thank you very much. I'm out there 152 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: stalking these guys with my cell phone as they walk around. 153 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: But it's truss. I feel a little creepy at times. 154 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Please talk to me, please say something. But I've noticed 155 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: that Jordan's Smith, who was drafted, he was at Florida. 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: I had some bumps along the road, and there were 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: a lot of questions around this guy. And I've noticed 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that every single day it has almost every day been 159 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: urban Meyer and Jordan Smith walking out to practice together. 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: And I've noticed that he's really heavily tended to during 161 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: practice any member of the coaching staff. So I think 162 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: this is the guy that that we need to keep 163 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: our eyes on. And I knew that there was a 164 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: lot of publicity around him at the draft, and now 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking more so he's going to have an even 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: bigger role if this coaching staff is paying this much 167 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: attention to him. Bucky six seven to fifty. So he 168 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: walks on the field, It's like, who is that guy? 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: Long and tall and look, it looks to port And 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I think if you think about him and you hear 171 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Urban's words over and over again, he talks about being bigger, faster, stronger, bigger, 172 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: faster strong and bigger, faster, stronger version of themselves as team, 173 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: as athletes, as players, And what we're wanting to see 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: is ideally a team that is full of heavyweights, big 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: guys that can kind of knock you around at the 176 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, that can move by ease and and 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: do those things. And I think he's one of the 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: guys that will be a major contributor at some point. 179 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that all of these 180 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: guys that came in were really heavily decorated recruits in 181 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: high school big programs, power five programs, played big time football. Um. 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I think that's the sweet spot. And I think it's 183 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: just playing out because the team that I saw walking 184 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: on the field was a bigger, stronger team than we've seen. 185 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: John Osher's dog is darking in the background. I love it, though, 186 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: you know we've had dogs this part of podcast, do 187 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday Sun Sunday makes an appearance. You know, she 188 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: looks up, Oh, you get the jaguar stuff. All they 189 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: make sure that I get recognized and I'm in the credits, 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: so I love it. I'll move on my big thing next. 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: And you know, we kind of talked on this. They've 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: dialed back this week's work a little bit, cut off 193 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: some time on Monday and Tuesday, and canceled Wednesday. But 194 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: some teams are canceling the week altogether, you know, and 195 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: that's as we talked about earlier. It seems like that 196 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: might be the trend moving ahead here for a lot 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: of these teams. Yet and different. Yeah, I think it's 198 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: a different way of going about it. Like players spoke 199 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: up prior to the offseason, coaches had to negotiate terms 200 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: with some of the veteran players to get guys to 201 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: come in for tas and workouts, and so we've seen 202 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: a very different offseason. We've talked about the one on 203 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: one in the individual um practices. In terms of teams, 204 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: folks in on developing the fundamentals within those small position 205 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: groups rather than really have these competitive team periods that 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: were accustomed to seeing seeing, So I asked him, when 207 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you talk about not having any notes, it's really hard 208 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: to write noticing anybody when everyone is just going through 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: footwork and uh, hand placement drills in those things. And 210 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: so hopefully the cop the competition will ramp up when 211 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: we get the training camp. But this has been very 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: much a developmental type atmosphere around the league that we're seeing. Yeah, 213 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I think we saw a glimpse of the biggest competition 214 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: we've seen so far. And that was a kicker today. 215 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: It was something we honestly didn't really expect. It was 216 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Josh Lambo and Rosa's going at it, and and erben 217 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: Meyer said, yeah, this is a competition and we're going 218 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: to get an answer here that that was it. That 219 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: was thee of the day. Yeah, right, and Rosa has 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: had a couple of bombs from fifty seven to day too. 221 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: We didn't had a good day. That's good for him, Bucky. 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: You know your big thing here, it's you mentioned all 223 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: this and developmental things. Well, for a young team, that's 224 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a good thing. It is a good thing. So my 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: big thing was young guys getting up to speed. We 226 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: saw it last year, so many young guys on the field, 227 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: so many guys playing around trying to learn how to play. 228 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Um I mean, I look at the number of coaches 229 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: that are on the staff and the number of bodies 230 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: and people with hats and polos and stuff on the field. 231 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like skill development is a big thing. And 232 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: normally we think about skill development in the in the NBA, 233 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: where you have these skill development coaches working on teaching 234 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: guys how to play well. Now we're seeing that play 235 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: out with the nature of the off season. The amount 236 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: of individual attention that these guys are getting. The coach, 237 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the player ratio is very favorable, is shrunk dramatically, and 238 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: so guys are having a lot of attention paid to 239 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: them in terms of developing their games. And so we'll 240 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: see if you can develop the players individually and get 241 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: them to play together collectively, maybe we'll see better results 242 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: on the field. But this is a very very unique 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: situation with such a young team. But um all kind 244 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: of equated to when Trimbaky was in San Francisco and 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh came in and they didn't have an offseason. 246 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Harbor was coming straight from the college game in the 247 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine has hit the ground running because 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: it was a very similar approach. Maybe just maybe the 249 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars sitting ground running because they are taking more of 250 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: a collegiate approach to the way that their prayer send 251 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: develop into players. A lot of those young guys are 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to contribute pretty quickly here. And it's guys 253 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you had your eyes on last year that you said 254 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: they really need an off season this year, the Calebon 255 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: Chassons and the Lavisco Chanults, and those are guys where 256 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing shine right now. It's really vital that those 257 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: guys have a great off season. That's it for big 258 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: things today. And single game tickets for the season are 259 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: on sale now. Visit Jaguars dot com or calling nine 260 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: oh four six three three, two thousand or team of 261 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: representatives is ready to help you get back in the 262 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: bank in time for Did you hear this? Trevor Lawrence, 263 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback, speaking after practice Monday, adjusting to the speed 264 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: of the NFL game. Obviously, I still have a lot 265 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: to learn, and just the more you practice something, the 266 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: better you get at it. So I still gotta get 267 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: a lot of reps me the receivers, O lines, all 268 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: the timing and meshing with all that, we still got 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: some work to do, but from a knowledge and just 270 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: memorize a in a mental standpoint, I feel really good 271 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: with the system. Um, I think it's great. We've got 272 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot of answers and now it's just working out 273 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: all the little details to be a really good offense, 274 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: and we're working towards that. I want to have you 275 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: know complete control and and know everything and be comfortable. 276 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really play play free and play 277 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: really well if you don't know what you're doing. So 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: that's the that's the goal, is just to master the 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: offense by the time training camp comes around. So in 280 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: training camp we really can focus everything forward on being 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the best team we can come August fourteenth, and then 282 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: going on into the regular season as well. So that's 283 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: the plan, and it starts the quarterback. Obviously, I have 284 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: to be ready and I'm gonna do everything I can 285 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: to ensure that that that is the case. So I'm 286 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: excited to get started and we've I think we've had 287 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: a great past three weeks and it's been it's been 288 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: really good work all right. Obviously it's a different speed game. 289 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: It's June it's not full speed right now. But even 290 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: at this moment, Bucky, the windows are a little tighter 291 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: for Trevor and the quarterbacks. Yeah, the wind is a 292 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: tighter and the speed will continue to adjust. And what 293 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Trevor and all the young guys will find out the 294 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: speed goes because you have what he's figuring out now 295 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: is offseason speed, and then when you get into the 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: preseason games. Preseasons played at a certain speed, the regular 297 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: season is much faster than that, and then when you 298 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: get into the postseason tournament, it gets faster each and 299 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: every round. And so he's gonna have to adjust to 300 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the windows being tighter and what is open and the 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: pros is vastly different than what's open in college. The 302 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: windows and the confidence in which you have to have 303 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: to throw the ball into these tight windows, a premium 304 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: will be placed on his actually and he has to 305 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: be very accomfortable letting it go when it doesn't look 306 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: like a guy is necessarily open. We're already seeing that 307 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: pressure in the few red zone periods that we've got 308 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: to witness. The offense struggled a couple of days, and 309 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: it looks like the defense won the date, and every 310 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: single quarterback struggle at times, and that's what you expect. 311 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: Right now, they're still trying to get that timing down. 312 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Did you hear this from quarterback Trevor Lawrence? Now time 313 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: for everyone asks and Bucky. This is a segment of 314 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the program where yes, everyone asks a question and yes 315 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: we all answer said question. Ashley, why don't you kick 316 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: us off? I would like to throw a little spin 317 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: on the So summer break is approaching, summer vacation. Let's 318 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: just all stay. We're going to the Bahamas. You can 319 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: pick any coach, any teammate, any staff member. Only two 320 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: of you you can you and your guests can go. 321 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Who are you picking to go to the Bahamas with you? 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna pick Brandon Linder because the 323 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: fishing boats and you'll have some fun on the water 324 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: he would provide them. I'm sure it would be. It 325 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: would be an epic trip because the boats would be 326 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: filled with fresh fish on the daily and you probably 327 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: just right over there on the boat too. You would 328 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: have to fly or anything. So that's probably my pick 329 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: right off the top of my head. I mean, I 330 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: like that. Well, I'm gonna go, and this is gonna 331 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: be like the corny stock answer. But I'm gonna go 332 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: with urban Meyer. And the reason why I'm gonning Urbaner 333 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: because normally when you go on vacation, you read a book. 334 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, now I can just get a book 335 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: on tape. By talking to urban Meyer the entire time, 336 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: I can get above the line. He can just every day. 337 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: He can just kind of recite a couple of chapters 338 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: to me out of the book, and I look, I'm there, 339 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm being knowledgeable, and I'm understand exactly how to change 340 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: the culture of whatever it is I'm trying to change. 341 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Is that a vacation move to your advantage? And he 342 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: might be just sit over there. It's been like, I'm 343 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be running around four to six, eight to 344 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: b like he wants for too, trying to go and 345 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: get fruity drinks. But he can he can educate me 346 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: on some of the other stuff, the other process. I 347 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: saw that Shelley Meyer, his wife, on Twitter, posted a 348 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: picture of him in a flamingo button down shirts on vacations, 349 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: so he might be way more fun than we think. 350 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: I bet he is. I'm just saying that we heard 351 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: your dog make an appearance a moment ago. What um 352 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: What was your answer to Ashland's about what was it 353 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: going to? John? Who are you bringing? Oh? If I'm 354 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: going to the Bahamas, yep, yeah, a player or a coach? Oh? 355 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: My wife first of all? Then she doesn't taking a 356 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: coach problem. I mean they're taking a player or coach. Uh, 357 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with un't take Trevor. Yeah you can 358 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: take Trevor, sure, I want to take the Newly way that. 359 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: I want to see if those two are as happy 360 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: and as perfect as they think. I just want to 361 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: see if if there really is on top of the 362 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: world I think they are. Podcast took a turn, everything beautiful, 363 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: everything perfect in their lives. I just kind of want 364 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: to see if that's for real. Okay, well bad the 365 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: best rid over there. There's just this answer a question 366 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: we gotta follow that. I mean, yeah, Aston brings a vacation, 367 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: of course, and I got this football course and that 368 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: I just want to know what what do what do 369 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: you think Joe Collins Deepens is going to look like? 370 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: That was my question. I'm on vacation and trees, and 371 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: I got John talking about couples and stuff like that. 372 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: It's something else. So what is Joe Collins defense. I 373 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: think it looks like whatever it needs to look like 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: that week. I think it will be adjustable to the 375 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: opponent and they'll be able to you know, scheme it 376 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: up each week that whatever the matchup works well. Right. 377 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: If you have a running team, run more four man 378 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: front right and stop the run. If you need to 379 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: pass rush and do some other things, you can adjust 380 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: that way. You'll see blitzing from all over the place. 381 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I think now the balance is how do you do 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: all that without overloading these guys, especially the younger guys. 383 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: So that's what it's gonna look like, and it's gonna 384 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: all gonna look new. I mean they're staying new guys. 385 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: It's like there's you know, fourth fists of the secondary's 386 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: brand new. It's funny, um, I would say quickly and 387 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: looking at it, uh, I saw Rex Ryan's defense all 388 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: over in my mind, Like I know he has Bob 389 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Sutton kind of walking around hanging out helping him or whatever. 390 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I know he comes from Baltimore. The base of that 391 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: defense has always had Rex Ryan elements and those things. 392 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: And you can see the creativity with all the guys 393 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: standing up and moving around the overload it appeared pressures, 394 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: but a lot of simulated pressures. Where's the four man 395 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: rush and seven guys with all those young guys and 396 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: all those I would call it the bigger, faster, stronger 397 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: bodies out there. It's very intriguing. Now, if they can 398 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: execute it, that's one thing, But right now it's very 399 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: intriguing to kind of watch from as far as they're 400 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of going through it. Think, yeah, I think it 401 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: was notable when he mentioned Caleb and Chason, Laurent Tamma 402 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Crawley on Jacobs at that Sam position, he just flat 403 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: outside it. We've always appreciated Urban's honesty so far, and 404 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: he just kind of just tells us exactly what it's 405 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna look like. So you're right, you see that creativity. 406 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: And then for him to explain and say, yes, Caleb 407 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: and Chason is going to be here, it makes a 408 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: lot of sense. John, Yeah, I think it's gonna look 409 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot like the Ravens defense. I think what will 410 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: be intriguing is to see how Joe Colin take his personnel, 411 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: which is not the same as the Ravens, because the 412 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: hallmark of the Ravens defense to me, has always been 413 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: using all these guys strength in a different ways and 414 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: not catering to what the players do. Well. I it's 415 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: different personnel. So what is Josh Allen do? I think 416 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: the most intriguing thing about this defense to me is 417 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: how Miles Jack is going to be used. My understanding 418 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: is this staff thinks he's going to be an absolute 419 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: star in this defense, and it's going to be to 420 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: be used a lot of different ways. How he is used. 421 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if this sort of becomes 422 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Miles Jack defense. If you guys follow me, meaning like 423 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: when you're talking about these guys on TV, if the 424 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: commentators is saying, look how they're using this guy, Uh, 425 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: they might unlock his potential to a degree has never 426 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: been unlocked before. You have it, John, While you're at it, 427 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: why don't you give us your everyone asks question? Today? 428 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: It's been kind of weird because you know, Minshew, the 429 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: one day we were there, he wasn't there, so we 430 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: wound up watching uh y C. J. Bethor a lot. 431 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Uh have we learned anything about this quarterback position? To me, 432 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: it's been a really weird o p A s back 433 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: because of Trevor's injury. Uh, I know it's better but 434 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: I haven't really just seen much of I haven't seen 435 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: enough of Trevor to have any idea what I'm looking 436 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: for in training camp, uh, JP, do we know any 437 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: more than we did three weeks? Well, we know that 438 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: that one day in the red zone, Ashlan, you referred 439 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: to it earlier, that he didn't have the best of 440 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: days that day, the defense was tight in the red 441 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: zone and all that, But there has not been enough 442 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: of a sample size for us to see, at least 443 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: with our own eyes. And we've only been out there 444 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: four days, uh in four weeks right out of what 445 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: ten practices nine probably on the field ten including today, 446 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: that's not a lot of time to see trends. And 447 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: if a guy is stepping up one day after he 448 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: struggled the next, and how he learned from it and 449 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: all that. So I think we trust that things are 450 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: better in the quarterback room, but yeah, we we would 451 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: just haven't seen anything to really validate it yet. I'm 452 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: still confident John that it is better, you know now, 453 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: and then in the backup situation too, Right, the backup 454 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: situation too is still for me unclear, like who's going 455 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: to be clear? But I don't know if we like 456 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: the answer. I think Gardner Minshew has had a much 457 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: better offseeen than c. J. Beathard. I think he looks 458 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: if you were to not know the backstory of anything, 459 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I would think Gardner Minshew looks like your backup quarterback. Now. 460 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if they want that, but when you're 461 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: just looking at the level of play on the field, 462 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: men show I think had had a better off season 463 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: than Bethard. No. I think it's interesting because there's huge 464 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: question marks at the QB two spot, Like with Gardner 465 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Minshew with c. J. Bethard. Both those guys have played 466 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: in NFL games, have played in action, and I think 467 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: they both have left a lot to be desired at times. 468 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: Now when you're Urban Meyer coming in and you're there 469 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: are Belville and Brian Schottenheimer. The quarterback up quarterback is 470 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: a position of trust because you don't get a lot 471 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: of reps in practice. A lot of it has to 472 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: be mental reps and those things that you fill in. 473 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: So who do you trust the most of those options. 474 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: That's something we'll figure out really really quickly in the preseason. 475 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: But it is interesting to Menshew Bethard debate and conversation 476 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: at QB two. I agree that I threw it out there. 477 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: I and Gardner Minshew have experienced all of that lends 478 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: to an argument that he be the backup. But I'm 479 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: with Bucky. You know it's I it's a position to trust. 480 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: It's a position where they know what this guy is 481 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, meaning meaning Bethard. I asked the 482 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: question because I think it's it's fascinating that it's gonna 483 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: open training camp where we're sort of trying to figure 484 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: out how good Trever is starting off in this offense 485 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: because we really haven't seen it yet, how much he's learned. 486 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: We really haven't seen a whole lot of practice that 487 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm so we're watching that. And then I went the 488 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: backup situation is gonna be it's it's a weirder quarterback 489 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: situation going into training camp. I don't know if we'd 490 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: just the right word, but it just feels like we 491 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: know less than I thought we would, So I think 492 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: it makes for an it for a very fascinating career. 493 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: Four weeks camp final, everyone asks question today, and here's mine. 494 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: What newcomer are you most excited to see in the 495 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: first preseason game Besides Trevor Lawrence. Of course, I think 496 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: we used that caveat with most every topic these days, 497 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: because the answer is usually Trevor Lawrence, ashleyn Who do 498 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: you like? I have a tie between two, but I'm 499 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: gonna between Seaquille Griffin and Jahad Board. Both of these 500 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: guys have stood out I think big time during the offseason. 501 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Jahad Board is a guy that you watch him with 502 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and he has seemed to mesh so 503 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: quickly with this group, and he was a little intense 504 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: at first when we met him, almost I'm going to 505 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: say it like a unique and go way yeah. But 506 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: then you watch him on the practice field and he's 507 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: like this big, goofy guy that's having the time of 508 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: his life out there. So I'm curious to see what 509 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: his impact is. And then Sequille Griffin is just a 510 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: walking sound bite and the leader of this this defense, 511 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: the secondary. He is exactly what they needed. So I'm 512 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: excited to see both of them. You can get away 513 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: with calling him goofy all the rest of us. I 514 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: don't think you do why he is yeah, I don't know. 515 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say, hey, goofy guy. 516 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't know. I don't know 517 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: if you respond, yeah, I don't I don't know if 518 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: you respond. I mean, I mean, I don't know, Like 519 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't think, oh sh oh, sher. I'll take care 520 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: of this, But I'm I'm gonna talk about the elephant 521 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: in the room. Tim t bawl, like, we gotta come on. 522 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: I gotta see. I gotta see what number eighty five 523 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: is going to look like. I gotta see if he's 524 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: going to be the preseason darling, Like if I want 525 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: to see if he's gonna put points on the board, 526 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: if he's going to be a guy that legitimately has 527 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to not only make a roster but maybe 528 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: be a contributor. So I just kind of want to 529 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: see how that plays out in real time. We had 530 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: a chance to see him catch some balls today. He 531 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: catches the ball fairly well. He's more of a body 532 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: catcher now, not necessarily a natural hands catcher. But the 533 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: big thing will be his physicality and his aggressiveness, and 534 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: we won't be able to assess that until we put 535 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: the big boy pads on and we have some live 536 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: contact we get in games. We see if Tim tebowl 537 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: can make the transition from me in a quarterback to 538 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: be in a position player, a tied in h back 539 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: or whatever it is they're gonna use them. There's only 540 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: one way to find out that put him right right 541 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: in there, and that might even hold until the first 542 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, we'll watch it in training camp, 543 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: but I think that's gonna be the storyline of the 544 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: first preseason game is when he's on the field us 545 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: when it's a lie. That's when whatever they're planning for him, 546 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: uh you know. I think that's the interesting part. If 547 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: they're planning to use him in an unusual way, do 548 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: you even speed in preseason? But he's gotta play in 549 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: the preseason show he belonged. So it's that's a little 550 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: bit of a weird dynamic because I just personally believe 551 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: that he was gonna be on the team. There's gonna 552 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: be elements where they use the skill set. But do 553 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: you want to show that again your week one preseason opponent. 554 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know so, but yeah, I agree with buck 555 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: you there. As far as mine, I'll say Travis DPN 556 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: because I would package that with Laviska Janals. He's had 557 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: a newcomer, but I want to see how they're going 558 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: to use those guys. I think that's one of the 559 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: key stories of the offense, is this eights BacT that 560 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Urban keeps talking about. They use are one way in college, 561 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: but it stands to reason it will be used differently 562 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, just like River Lawrence will play differently 563 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL in terms of running when he was 564 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: in college. So how they use that, how they try 565 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: to translate that position. Travis DPN with a nod to Chenal, 566 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: who's had a new comper. He doesn't question. I am 567 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: going to go with a couple of blockers, a Walker 568 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Little and Chris man Hurts. Is this going to be this? 569 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: You know what? What can Little do? I mean, we've 570 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: seen him move and that's about it. He's got the 571 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: big body and all that. And in preseason Game one 572 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: he should have some significant playing time in that game, 573 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: second half most likely. And then um for man Hurts. 574 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Can he be that run blocking tight end that was advertised? 575 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: I just want to see him push some people around. 576 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: I know that's really not the most exciting too the world, 577 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: but okay, this is where we're seeing if people can 578 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: move the furniture around I'm okay with that whole. So 579 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: we get a chance to see I mean a little 580 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: is a massive I mean a massive human saw him today. 581 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's a huge Stanford grad by the way, 582 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: graduated this weekend. So I'm with that. I'm okay. Like 583 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: in the trenches, the man Hurts is interesting too because 584 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: how's he gonna block? But he's also looked more capable, 585 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: more agile as a receiver. I think a lot of 586 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: people expected, so Man Hurts, He's definitely a good choice. 587 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, how is he going to fit into the offense? 588 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Will they be a little better at tight end? And 589 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe observers are believing because of some of the things 590 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: you can do in addition to blocking. So I kind 591 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: of feeling to go catch more passes in this offense 592 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: to people void. That's it for everyone asked today, And 593 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: that's it for Jaguars reporters. Bucky Brooks on for the 594 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: first time with us on This Reporter's podcast. Thank you 595 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: for your time. We're gonna wear you out this week. Okay, 596 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm official. I got the logo also, 597 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: so I'm ready, ready making on it. Than true. I 598 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: don't want I don't want yellow neck because they got 599 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: the logo on on that up to the line and 600 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: above the line, not up to the line. We're going 601 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: to above the line everything plus to mentality or to 602 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: six above the line, Bucky Brooks, that's John Osier, Ashland Sullivan, 603 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: and I'm J. P. Shatrick. We will catch you next time. 604 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Reporters on the Jaguars Official Podcast Network.