WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Extra Credit?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Wednesday, October thirteen, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number forty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>live from the s WBC Morgan Studios at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Got Nave, Dave and Nick with me. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Bucky Brooks here in a bit. Talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the New England Patriots offense versus the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Dve Vince. Before we do that, though, there a

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<v Speaker 1>couple news and notes that we want to hit. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with injuries. What are we keeping an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on this week? Dave, you just came from the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. Who are the guys we're kind of monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>this week? We're keeping an eye on guys coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Oh, who's coming back? Well? Coming back might be premature,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're starting, they're starting their journey back. Calvin Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be limited in practice today. Donovan Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>is another one. Let's go. I'm blanking on the third.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a Sean mccun thank you. You see you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's on the internet. You've got an internet connection order.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm like making sure my reports are right. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew there was a third guy. It's Sean mckun. So

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<v Speaker 1>those three will be limited in practice. Um, he can't practice,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know it sounds I think the lyall Colin

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<v Speaker 1>saga's finally over and so he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>available this week, but he'll be available next week. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's four guys that at least have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be available for you after the bye week, which is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets back. I wonder about that too. Um, I do

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<v Speaker 1>know McCarthy told me. I asked him about that last

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<v Speaker 1>week and he said he thought it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch that he'd be ready for New England. Um, obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously not going to happen. I get probably maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something to watch when we get back from the bow.

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<v Speaker 1>So to get those guys back, McEwen, Joseph, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be on the roster right now. Yeah, they could.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a three week a three week exemption for

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<v Speaker 1>them to get acclimated, so you don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything right now. Um, and Gallimore is not in that group,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Stephen Jones said last week that Gallimore and

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<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus were still another month away, which I know kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rubbed some people the wrong way with Gallimore because

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was diagnosed as an eight week injury

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<v Speaker 1>on August fourteenth. It's been about eight weeks, so he

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<v Speaker 1>needs a little bit longer that Mike McCarthy said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a setback, just maybe they were a little optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>with their timeline. But um, good part is that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like you got I was gonna say that

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<v Speaker 1>any of these guys you don't find Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get this guy back right right. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was playing pretty well. I mean, but again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have your elbow strength to do what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do as a defensive tackle, that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be as effective. Yeah. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>way I look at this is, and I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when he comes back, he's gonna give them

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<v Speaker 1>a boost. Obviously, Tank gives him a boost, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other guys will give them a boost. The way

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it, though, is if those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and fresh in November, that's a good thing for

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<v Speaker 1>this team because, like as you guys, you guys both

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this earlier this week, like there are more injuries

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming because that's the nature of football, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if other guys are going out and those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are coming in, or if those guys or if there

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<v Speaker 1>aren't a lot of other injuries and those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>coming back and they provide depth or or jumping in

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<v Speaker 1>and playing in rotations and they're fresh, like, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing to have in November and December of an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see Kelvin Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I mean, I want him to get in

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<v Speaker 1>there and play and figure they need to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to do that. I just feel like the way

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<v Speaker 1>this offense is, they're gonna score some points, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give up some plays with him, but he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get in there and at some point this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll happen, Like you said, nature of injuries

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, I think at some point he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the offseason. They need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good understanding of the type of player that he is,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you, I mean, they'll want to get too

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<v Speaker 1>much into weeds. For no, let's talk draft, Let's go next.

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<v Speaker 1>You do because they were like, they gotta have a corner.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have a corner and didn't work out, took

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker. I think that they're so happy that they

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<v Speaker 1>did that. They took corners in second round, talking corner

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. Right, let's do it well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>find you know, you'll be picking. They're gonna be picking

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenties. Okay, they'll be picking back there that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good football team. They'll be They'll be

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<v Speaker 1>picking back there, you know, And do you go that

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<v Speaker 1>route again? You just need to know. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea of what Joseph is. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>at some point you gotta figure out ways to play him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that point, although I agree with you. But

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<v Speaker 1>even if I mean, if they don't have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what he is, it's not gonna I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>if the cornerback's there for you in the draft, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. It's true Anthony Brown, that's true. He's

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<v Speaker 1>only on a three year deal. Jordan's only on a

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<v Speaker 1>three year deal. Just just throw throw resources at the

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<v Speaker 1>problem until it's fixed. But that's yeah, we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody Somebody damned me the other day was like, when

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<v Speaker 1>is the Draft show coming back? I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>a four game winning streak man, who it's the season?

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants to talk draft right now? That's for bad teams?

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<v Speaker 1>We did. God, we were getting those tweets in September

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<v Speaker 1>last year and then we're staying in December. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>me and Nick were actually just having this conversation yesterday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're still on this show untill at

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest, maybe late enuite. I don't want to, don't

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<v Speaker 1>We got we got something else to talk about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk draft until after Valentine's Day, preferably.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go It's take some time. Let's go Hey real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to ask you this question, Nick, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not talked a little bit about this morning. This earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this morning off Mike McCarthy and I heard that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a question. There was a question during the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference about Kellen Moore saying that one of Mike McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 1>shrinks is his ability to stay even good bad times.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an even steady leader, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>great characteristic for a leader to have. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I wanted to ask you guys about is do

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<v Speaker 1>you think right now not enough credit is being given

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike McCarthy for where his team is because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we talk a lot. We do it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think just nationally locally, everyone talks a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator and how well

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<v Speaker 1>they are doing, how well the players are doing there

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<v Speaker 1>four and one, they're in a four game win streak,

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<v Speaker 1>But rarely do we hear people talk about Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>and what he contributes to that. And I'm a personal

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<v Speaker 1>believer that if a head coach has a team that's

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<v Speaker 1>four and one, he has some should receive some credit.

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<v Speaker 1>How much? And do you think he's being overlooked? I

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<v Speaker 1>do think yeah, I think that he's being overlooked for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he deserves a more credit. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's just kind of the way that it's evolved here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying with all coaches I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it has something to do with personality or what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. It's just that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn's the fun guy, whereas the camera and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>love loves, you know, listen to him. Kellen, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than that, but I mean Kellen is just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's kind of the offense is rolling

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And because those guys have kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>their thing, I think it's easy to say, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>is McCarthy doing, you know, other than kind of over

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all of it. But um, you know, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>blamed for clock management, but nothing has nothing has hurt

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<v Speaker 1>him at this point. Um this year, last year sort

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<v Speaker 1>of did. But so yeah, I do think that he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's not getting the credit that that he deserves, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when that'll happen. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many games they have to win to do that. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think you're right, and it's only natural.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people tie your worth to what they can

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<v Speaker 1>see you doing for the window of time that you're

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<v Speaker 1>visible to them, and to most people, the vast majority,

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<v Speaker 1>even really especially in COVID times, even us, how much

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<v Speaker 1>do we see McCarthy in person outside of like the

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<v Speaker 1>press conferences and game day, you know, it's not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Sean Payton is my go to because I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up following that team, and he gets so and

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully so he gets so much credit. He calls the plays,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing this, that and the other, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to be like, this is what he does for

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<v Speaker 1>you on game day. But there's credit to be given

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<v Speaker 1>for just overseeing everything great. You do not know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Derek for people that aren't watching this. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not know what is going on as intricately on

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<v Speaker 1>a day to day basis as like Nick and I

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<v Speaker 1>do you trust us to do that? That's our jobs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you still get credit for what are what we

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<v Speaker 1>do as a department and the ideas that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go up to people higher than you and

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<v Speaker 1>they say how's that going. You're like, it's going pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my guy's got it, and you I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how this all works. I just think it's it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>to give people credit for what you can see during

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<v Speaker 1>a game. And I'll openly say it, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what all Mike McCarthy does that gives you an edge

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<v Speaker 1>on game day, except for maybe his decision making, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes suspect. But I do appreciate the aggressive nature

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But absolutely Monday to Saturday, I definitely it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like he's got this calming presence and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it deserves credit for that, even though we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>get to see a lot of it. I've never thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, but why do you think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a coach out there who had a team for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, had a Hall of Fame quarterback, they won

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<v Speaker 1>one super Bowl together in a long time. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that Sean Payton is viewed the way he

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<v Speaker 1>is and Mike McCarthy is viewed the way he is

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<v Speaker 1>when they the resumes are kind of similar in those

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<v Speaker 1>regards about winning championship and the the m O. The

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<v Speaker 1>rap sheet on McCarthy coming out of Green Bay is

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<v Speaker 1>that they squandered Rogers like they should have won more

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<v Speaker 1>than one super Bowl, but which is so crazy. They

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<v Speaker 1>won one, but they Brady ruined if for every No,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's nobody really thinks that about Peyton, and the

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<v Speaker 1>resume is very very similar. Yeah, I don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that. Perception is a hell of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, I do. I do remember reading

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<v Speaker 1>that there were people in Green Bay who followed that

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<v Speaker 1>team that felt like some of the same things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about here with regards to game management were

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<v Speaker 1>issues there. So that could also be part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>where they felt like decisions that were being made in

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<v Speaker 1>game actually affected their ability to win more championships, and

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<v Speaker 1>they put that on Mike McCarthy, right, fair or not

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<v Speaker 1>that that maybe a perception. Yeah, And I just I

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<v Speaker 1>think you said it best about. You know, sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>you you're doing your job and you're saying, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you do your thing. I'm not gonna micromanage you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get the hell out of the way and

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<v Speaker 1>let you do your job. And then it's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>the people like you, then they'll say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good job. Wait wait, way to not step on anyone's toes.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they don't, they're like, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't really do anything, you know, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it is. I mean, you know, it's what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about. He comes in here and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what what I what I got? I got this

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<v Speaker 1>young offensive coordinator who works well with the quarterback. We

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<v Speaker 1>got something going here. Okay, Well, even though I know

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and I know offenses, I ain't really gonna mess

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<v Speaker 1>this up. I'm gonna hire this guy that I know

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<v Speaker 1>to be my defensive coordinator. We're gonna have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through COVID together and he can do it. Well, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucked and he had to fire him. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want it, but he had to because it was so bad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>go get another guy. I got another guy that that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to come here. And this guy knows what he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, and I'm gonna let him do his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he should get some credit here, um

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than he and I think if

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<v Speaker 1>they win, I think they'll continue to come. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>him all the credit in the world. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way you accomplish what Mike McCarthy's accomplished without having

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an ego about it, and so much

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL's driven by ego. I haven't seen it like.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't come across that way. He let he's letting

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore call the shots on offense and being very

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<v Speaker 1>open about it and very complimentary of what a good

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<v Speaker 1>job he's doing. Fired a guy that he had a

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<v Speaker 1>history with in Mike Nolan. I mean, how how I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like you pointing at me and said fire. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but you said fired. Nobody likes that, likes it.

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<v Speaker 1>But how how easy is it to imagine? I can

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<v Speaker 1>picture it in my head. Mike and Carthy's like, well, this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other reasons or why we were bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Mike Nolan and we're just gonna stay the

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<v Speaker 1>course and it'll be better next year. That is such

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL thing. Yeah, and he didn't do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Nope, you gotta go, and I'm gonna hire

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who comes highly recommended, who I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>as much of a relationship with. Um. I could probably

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<v Speaker 1>think of half a dozen other examples. Uh, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a good sport about hard knocks, even if he probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love it. Yeah, I just he's done. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a remarkable job of just kind of being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no he goes here, I'm okay. And I will also say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this a lot of the credit goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the players, but also I think a part of

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<v Speaker 1>leadership is creating an environment where your team is willing

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<v Speaker 1>to accept the fact that they don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the ones getting the credit all the time. And we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this all the time, like this is an

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<v Speaker 1>offense that's built around a number of parts that any

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<v Speaker 1>one of them could go to another team and be

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<v Speaker 1>the man, and they have all somehow decided for the

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<v Speaker 1>better of the team. I'll be the man once every

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<v Speaker 1>four games, or once every three games, or once every

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<v Speaker 1>six games, because at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>want team success. That's about leadership, and that's about leadership

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<v Speaker 1>that starts with the head coach and then filters down

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<v Speaker 1>to the team. Well, let's also just remember this and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope hopefully it doesn't happen soon or at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but it probably will. They're gonna lose a game, somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>When they lose a game, someone's gonna have two catches

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<v Speaker 1>for nineteen yards or something. Somebody. You know, maybe Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a big game, or Pollard didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>big game. You know, let's see what happens. Then. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the bottom will drop off when that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just when it's four. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're four and one, and you know you've won four straight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's rosy. Well, we we've already kind of seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Week one, they didn't run the ball, Zeke didn't do much,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in week two you saw Pollard like going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were moments when Zeke could have been like, say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with me? And I don't think that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think this fast start could wind up

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<v Speaker 1>being a great thing because a rough patch is coming

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<v Speaker 1>right eventually. Yeah, but the fact that you've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to stack four wins like this at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, you can point back to that later and

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<v Speaker 1>say like, we're okay, we got this. It might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been clicking these last two weeks because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple stretches on the schedule where I'm like, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, bumpiness could be in store. But at least

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<v Speaker 1>you have the good times that you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fall back. This is one of them. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those games where it's like they should win.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they are more talented. They they're head

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<v Speaker 1>and shoulders better. I think at quarterback, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Mac Jones is going to be good if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not decent right now. But I think you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the advantage there. You've got talent all across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be able to win um this game. But

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going up against one of the best. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going up against the best coach in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>I think can we say that? I think I would, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think there's an argument certainly can be made.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody can just be like that stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they you know, yes, he won all those

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<v Speaker 1>and he had Brady, and we'll see where Brady's has

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<v Speaker 1>successful that. I mean, there are guys that have their

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<v Speaker 1>names on the actual trophy that you like. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>in that level of conversation like the Lombardi Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever think about that, like like when should we start

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<v Speaker 1>changing that? And certain you don't change that ever, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't change that. No, Well, okay, they'll not the Lombardi Trophy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know there's there's other there's other trophies and

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<v Speaker 1>other sports. You know, the Bill Russell Award, and I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when do we ever change that? You don't, that's the history,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the history is you keep that that person's name

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<v Speaker 1>alive because they were so great at what they did, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point of naming that trope. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you don't take that for grant. You're like, you always

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<v Speaker 1>name that after somebody who is legendary, I mean legitimately legendary. Heisman. Yeah, who, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Heisman. I don't know what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call it the Bush? I mean, like what we are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>I call that. They won't give it back to it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right, yeah, I was thinking like that, who

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<v Speaker 1>who would you give it to? I mean, it had

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<v Speaker 1>to be a two time winner. I mean, if y'all

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<v Speaker 1>want to name it the Borough, I'm all for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. It's okay with me. No complaints over there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, ready to talk a little New England

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<v Speaker 1>offense versus Dallas defense and Bucky Less start first with

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<v Speaker 1>This is a team in New England that I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of Cowboys fans is pretty unknown. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of big names, particularly on their

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball, if not including the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would you say is the most dangerous weapon that

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fans need to know about going into this game

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side of the ball. Josh mc daniels

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<v Speaker 1>awfensive coordinator. Because because the players are just a hodgepodge

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<v Speaker 1>of good players, I wouldn't say great players. The team

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<v Speaker 1>expected the offensive line to be the strength of the program,

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<v Speaker 1>but the offensive line has not played there well. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, they were out of there without

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<v Speaker 1>four starters against the Houston Texas, so you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's going to look like due to the

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<v Speaker 1>injuries that they've been hit with. But really it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reminds me of the early two thousand Patriots, where

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<v Speaker 1>you look up and you don't really know who the

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<v Speaker 1>personnel is, but they find a way to win games.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is they haven't won games like that because

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't have won last Sunday. I was just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Cowboys defense for a second. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who who do you compare Trayvon Diggs too right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like whether it be in the league or old school corners,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you seen anybody play like this at

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<v Speaker 1>this young into a career. He reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 1>key to leap if you go back and look at

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<v Speaker 1>a key to leave when he was coming out of Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>a key to leap at a very similar background, offensive

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<v Speaker 1>player moved. The defense understands how to read rouse and

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<v Speaker 1>do those things, but it has outstanding hands. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing for me when I look at Treyvon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs is out around him when he was a high

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<v Speaker 1>school wide receiver and watching him him run rouse and

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<v Speaker 1>watching him catch passes, and then watching him flipping go

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. You see all of those skills

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<v Speaker 1>translate fear from other corners when the ball is in

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<v Speaker 1>the air because they can't figure out where the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is going or how to judge in flight. He plays

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<v Speaker 1>it like a wide receiver, and so he is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to see in a conversion prospect meeting

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who converts from wide receiver to dB. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to see them pick up the skills of a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back while retaining the ball skills of a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Dix has that, and so that has made him

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<v Speaker 1>a very dangerous playmaker on the backside because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody expected the game to click for him this

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<v Speaker 1>early in his career. But you gotta give him his

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<v Speaker 1>prost because he is playing at a high level. Hey, Bucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking back to March, the Patriots gave a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money to Hunter Henry and John hu Smith, and the

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<v Speaker 1>talking point was kind of, oh, they're going back to

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<v Speaker 1>a decade ago when they add Hernandez and Gronk together

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<v Speaker 1>and they were kind of revolutionizing passing out of twelve

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<v Speaker 1>personnel and being able to do this, that and the

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<v Speaker 1>other with these tight ends. I don't get the impression

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<v Speaker 1>from the little I know about the Patriots that it's

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<v Speaker 1>really working that well. So far, am I mistaken about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are these what do these guys look like in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense? Well? I mean it's still a team in transition.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this about the Patriots. The Patriots do

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<v Speaker 1>this better than anybody else in the league, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>always done it. The way they start a season isn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the way they end the season in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the way they gain planning and the way they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of build their team and build how they go about

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<v Speaker 1>their approach each week, and so the first part of

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>the season for them is really much like the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are the players, who are the guys that we

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<v Speaker 1>can lean on? And then once they figure out their

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>best course of action. They didn't build a plan early

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 1>in the year. Jonathan Smith and Hunter Henry have not

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<v Speaker 1>been contributors. Some of that is on the quarterback. Some

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of that is just the way the game is played out,

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<v Speaker 1>but those guys have not been as big as we expected,

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger part of the team as we expected in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason. But they can line up in twelve personnel,

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<v Speaker 1>one back, two tight ends, to wide receivers and become

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<v Speaker 1>difference makers. You just never know, because this is a

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>team that they're gay plans at night, snowflakes. They never

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.360
<v Speaker 1>look the same on a week to week basis, So

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this could be the week that we see more twelve

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<v Speaker 1>personnel and watch those two guys go off. Hey, Bucky.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>As I was doing some study on this new England

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Patriot offense, I noticed something really interesting. They actually throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball a lot relative to the rest of the

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.479
<v Speaker 1>league their eighth right now in passing attempts. They also

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>run the ball as little as like one of the

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>lower teams in the league. They're twenty eighth in rushing attempts.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a situation where this is happening because as

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<v Speaker 1>strategic decision for them, or is this just the nature

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 1>of the games that they've been in and they've just

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<v Speaker 1>been in situations where they've had to pass a lot

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>more than they've run. The struggles of the offense a

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>line for them from playing the way they wanted to play.

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>They would like to get in twenty one personnel. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of run it and pound it and grind it out.

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>They haven't been able to do it. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the Patriots, the Patriots kind of operate like

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a service academy when it comes to their approach. They're

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>what we call a sequential play calling team. So they

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>started the game out and if something doesn't work, then

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 1>they'll go Hey, let's spread it out. Let's go empty,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>let's go quick dinking up game. If we can't get that,

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 1>let's go to the screen game. If we can't get that,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>let's go to the tricks and gadgets to try and

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<v Speaker 1>create an explosive play. And so as you're watching them,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see them just kind of go down this

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<v Speaker 1>checklist if they're getting stopped early, and whatever they hit

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<v Speaker 1>on they tend to stay in. And so they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to successfully maintain an identity because they just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had those successful drives down after down, week after

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<v Speaker 1>week after week. And so that's why they're a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a hodgepode On offense right now. When I look

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:02.199
<v Speaker 1>at the quarterbacks Alabama that they've had, you know, especially

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>under Sabin, most of them haven't had a ton of success.

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess this jury still out on tour and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But but what did you like or what did you

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>how did you evaluate Mac Jones. He's got all the

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<v Speaker 1>talent around him. What did you see from him when

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he was coming out? Were you a big fan of his?

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<v Speaker 1>In this quarterback class of Avengers right super heroes, I

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>call Mac Jones iron Man because Mac jones superpower is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing innate that he has. It's all the suit, it's

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>all everything that is around him. It is the supporting cast,

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it is the coaching staff, it's the plan. And what

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>he does is he distributes the ball to the open guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you ask mac Jones to do it by himself,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have any special talents. When you think about

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, they all

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<v Speaker 1>had extraordinary individual pology, whether it was the armed talent,

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<v Speaker 1>the letticism, something about them that allowed them to dominate

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the game on their own. Mac Jones doesn't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we can talk about his IQ and his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to process, but that's not necessarily a superpower in the

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<v Speaker 1>same light. So he was dependent upon the system and

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>where he landed more than any other quarterback. Now he

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>landed in a perfect system for him. But if the

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>game ever gets out of whack where they can't protect

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<v Speaker 1>it or they can't call it on the script, mac

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Jones is helpless. He doesn't have that ability to get

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<v Speaker 1>you right. So he is a guy who needs everything

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<v Speaker 1>around him to be right, and he can deal in

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<v Speaker 1>dead vein, But if it becomes a sandlot football game.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones can't thrive in that environment because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how he's built. Along that same line, I can't help

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>but notice, I don't think he's even averaging seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>per attempt this season, just a lot of short stuff.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I know everybody made a big deal. I don't. He

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<v Speaker 1>was averaging five yards per attempt against the Bucks the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. Is that is it an unwillingness to take

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<v Speaker 1>shots that are there? I'm sure they don't want him

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<v Speaker 1>taking a lot of risks giving his level of experience.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>But what does it look like on film to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like a reluctance? Can the Cowboys afford to

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<v Speaker 1>sit on everything short? What's it looked like? It's a

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>combination of factors. I'm not saying that if he won't

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>push the ball down the field, I don't think he

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>has the playmakers that will allow him to push it

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<v Speaker 1>down the field when we line up, and the first

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>thing that dan Quinn and the staff have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is they got to look at, Okay, who are the threats.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Who are the guys that can hurt us? They have

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson Aguilar, they have Kendrick Bourne, they have Jacoby Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they have the two tight ends, Jonah Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Henry. If you privately ask the Cowboys defenders who

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<v Speaker 1>are they scared of, none of them. And so what

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>they have to do is they have to spread you

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<v Speaker 1>out and see if they can catch you in zone

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and beat you a bunch of five and six

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>yard rouse and eventually you miss a tackle that turns

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen yards and they methodically dribe it down the field.

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>But this is a team that lacks the explosive playmaking

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>power of some of the other teams. That's why we

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>see the double passes, the fleet flickers, the reverse throws,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>because the only way they can generate chunk plays is

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 1>about deception and misdirection. They don't have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>line up and say, we're better than your guy on

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the outside, so we're gonna throw it over your head.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>And so that has made Mac Jones have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a deacon dunk passer because of talent around him doesn't

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>allow him to push you down the field. So, Bucky,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things that you've done this year

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<v Speaker 1>and added to your staple of writing is the your

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Chips article. These are the best players on the

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<v Speaker 1>other team. Tell me who the studs are. Every week

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that you've done it, it's been like eight to ten guys.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>So do they have eight to ten guys? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you? I mean, do they have that many what

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<v Speaker 1>you would call blue chip players. No, they don't. They don't.

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>They don't have that many guys. So typically come from them. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be most of their players. All the defensive

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, they have about four or five guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But it takes eight to twelve blue chip guys to

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<v Speaker 1>field the championship team. This is a team that is

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<v Speaker 1>probably sitting at six maybe seven, And that's being very

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<v Speaker 1>generous when you compare their players to the players around

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<v Speaker 1>the league. It has always been the system. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>now I have to say, maybe Tom Brady didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>elevate the team more than I gave them credit for.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, this is not a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of A level players. They win because they

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<v Speaker 1>typically a sail at the dbos don't beat ourselves penalties, turnovers,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>those things, explosive plays. When they don't give those things up,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they put it on you to beat them. And more

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>times than not, teams mess it up by making mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at the Houston game. Houston was better, but

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>they messed it up. Not that the Patriots necessarily went

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>out and beat them, all right, But we're gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Man. We're gonna get back with you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about this defense, the Patriots defense versus

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys offense. We're going to also take our final

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<v Speaker 1>break right now. We'll come back and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>question for these guys about Michael Parsons. Where's he best

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<v Speaker 1>used in general and where's he best used this week

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<v Speaker 1>at lineback or defensive end. We'll talk about that when

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<v Speaker 1>did want to talk a little bit about the Dallas defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to zero in a little bit on Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons. He led the team with eight tackles this

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<v Speaker 1>last game. He had three quarterback hits. My question for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, is he more impactful at defensive end or

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<v Speaker 1>at linebacker? And I want you to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>from Samue. There have been now a couple games where

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<v Speaker 1>he's been primarily doing both. Where do you think he's

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<v Speaker 1>more impactful for this team in this defense? I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's two elements to consider. Their one. I mean, rushing

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<v Speaker 1>the passer is more impactful. Those guys make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money. That's why we said when they drafted Parsons,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't that thrilled about it because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to have a pass rushing element if this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be worth this pick. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, it's just easier to see that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easier to see what the guys are doing chasing

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback out of the pocket than everything that a

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>linebacker is bringing the table. Micah had a hell of

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a they wound up scoring. It was the dry It

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>was the same as the Cocks play, but he's stuffed

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a goal line run. Just blew the guy up right

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in the hole, right there at the goal line. So

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not like he didn't make an impact. And I

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>don't love the question to be honest with because I'm like,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>just let the guy play football, let him kind of

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>feel this thing out. I'm I don't like people saying like, well,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>he needs to be an end full time or this,

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that and the other. I think I love the fact

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that dan Quinn is changing what he's doing with him

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>based on the opponent. I think it's fun. I think

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's good for him, and it's good for the Cowboys

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>defense agree hundred percent. Also, you know, when when d

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Law comes back, you know, and Randy's playing pretty Randy's

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>playing at a very high level right now too, just

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>because he is pushing guys back. He's playing with strength

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't necessarily know he had, you know, like

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>or you know, and he's he's a little older now,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you know, he's playing with leverage and strength.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So those guys together, I can't wait to see those

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>guys at the ends together. That being said, you know,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to see Parsons play linebacker, but I also

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>love the element of him doing his thing, So I

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think he's a linebacker. He once he starts even being

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>more aware of what's happening, he will be sidelined to silent.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>He'll play even faster. But every now and again, he's

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>going to line up in a spot you don't recognize.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>If they see a mismatch, he can whip this guard.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know what's coming, but it's gonna come on

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>third nine. And I love that element. So I would

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>agree with Dave. I keep him the way where he

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>is mostly linebacker but occasional rushing the passer. I do. Yeah,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think there should be a split every week, and

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't always have to be fifty fifty. Yeah, I'm

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>in favor of that. I would say this, and I

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 1>heard somebody mentioned this yesterday, and I think it got

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>me excited because I was like, think about it like this.

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Once Tanks back, you get into December, you get into

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, and you get into passing downs. What if

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you had Micah Tank kicked down the defensive tackle, OSA

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and Randy all rushed in the passer. That gets me

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>really exciting. And the reason why it gets me really

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>excited is because I always go back to that Giant's

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>team that went to the Super Bowl and won it

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and did it against some really great offenses that they

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>took down along the way, including the Cowboys, and I

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>think that the reason why they did that because they

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>had a front four that could get after the quarter back,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and so it allowed them to be able to basically say,

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>we can come get your quarterback and we can apply

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a ton of pressure with four guys. Any defense that

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>can do that, especially when you got guys on the

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>back end who are ballhawks, it gives you a really

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>great advantage defensively, and I think that would be phenomenal.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>And so from that's end, when that side again, I

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>agree both you guys. I think he's gonna be a

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive man. I think he's gonna be a linebacker. But

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I love the idea on passing downs, especially when you

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>get to Marcus back of putting them at defensive in

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you're being imagined him enough

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, because that was a very

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>straightforward four man front. We've already seen dan Quinn do

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>some goofy stuff. You could line up on a third

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and eight with Osa and Gallimore at tackle, Randy it

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>right in, tank it left in, and then just overhang

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Mica off of that as a stand up rush. What

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>have you come up the gate eight? Yeah? Yeah, that's

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>because what that does is that makes your running back

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and your guard and all that stuff. That's what they're

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>focused in, so you don't have to worry about dumping

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>screens to these backs or whatever. They're gonna have to

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>worry about that part him right up the minute. I

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we've seen it. I loved it though

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>before when Jalen was still here. Against the Eagles, they

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>would mug the a gap with Jalen on passing downs

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and Michael would be brushing on the edge and it

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>was Curse that was playing behind all of that as

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of the guy who could catch everything if it

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>got past him. Jalen is not that fast. Imagine doing

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that with Micah when you've got ends that are on

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the outside of it. I mean, there's just a lot

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of fun stuff that they can do. And that's why

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put Micah Parsons in a box.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I want him to be able to do whatever he

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>wants to do. And I guess really the point of

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that is more once Tank is back, they can really

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>freelance a lot more with Mica. And that means defensive end,

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that means linebacker, that means just wherever you want to

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>line him up. You can line him up as safety

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to and figure out a way to

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>get him involved in the play. I just think you

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>got a lot more flexibility of being able to move

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>him around and do whatever you want to do when

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you get Tank back. You got three guys right now

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>that are playing in positions that are you don't really

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>know what their position is. Mica is one of them.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Kean O'Neill, I mean you know his position, but he

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>can play it like a safety. And Jalon curses another

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and those guys right there giving you so much flexibility versatility.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>When the guys get injured. Donald Wilson can come back,

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he can play safety, and you can maybe slade a

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>guy inside. I mean, there's just you got a lot

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>of guys that I wouldn't call him tweeters, but they

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>can just do multiple fox too. Jabril Cox is in.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>They see how much they'll use him over the next

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 1>There are safeties in the league that bigger than him,

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>but he plays linebacker and is one of them. But

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that I mean just to play just to catch Daniel

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Jones and the flat I mean that was a that

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>was a safety type explosion from the speed standpoint, I

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>know okay, but it hit like a linebacker. That just

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>gave me an idea of where the mail bag is

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>going in the future because people people spent years trying

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to move Sean Lee to safety and so now it's

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Jabril Cox for sure. It's like, well he

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>can play safety, Kenny. Yeah. What I love about to

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>seem like that they don't worry about putting labels on

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>guys and I'll just line them up and they just say,

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>go play football, you know, And honestly, it's a fitting

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>week to talk about it. That's the Patriots are famous

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>for it. They're like, we got two cornerbacks who can

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>handle the boundaries and everything else is kind of up

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>for grabs, and it's I love it. It's worth It's

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the best way to play offenses in this day and

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>age when it's so tilted the other way. And you

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>know this, this goes for life. This isn't just football.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But the best people in the world are the best

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>or you know, the best teachers, you know, and it's

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>explaining football on a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to get ready,

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or explaining algebra, whatever it is. The teachers, you know,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the best teachers are the ones that know how to

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>get that can relate things. And I gotta give the

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>credit to the Patriots for doing that. They do it

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>on a week to week basis, and that's what dan

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Quinn is doing. He's doing it in a way that

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>these guys understand. But yet offensive coordinators are still having

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>trouble with it. All right, we appreciate you guys, you

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>want us, we'll be back tomorrow. We're going to jump

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>into the new England Patriot defense versus the Cowboys offense.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Still then for Nick even Danny McCrae, oh yeah, that's

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>forty forty. I don't want, you know, I don't want

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to go upstair and have Danny McCay like, Oh, I

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I did have a T shirt as a kid said,

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 1>here comes to the next Bill Bates. I mean that's

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>seven years old. He was forty. I loved Bill Bates.

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know, hey, we gotta watch Survivor to night.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, check out my guy Danny A.

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Knight on Survivor and yeah, we'll see how that goes.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So far, they are just running rough shot over everybody else.

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>So what's your favorite forty Derek? Danny? Okay, well, did

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you have something. You thought I was gonna say, yeah,

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe a dream for from Devin White. Devin White forty

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>here also, So we're just we're just we're just gonna

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>have somebody. Somebody on Twitter is like thirty eight John L.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Williams played for Seattle, and I'm like, that's not the

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>game we're doing. You're right, I'm sorry. Cowboys numbers only

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>from now, All right, guys, let's see outmow. This has

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