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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is floating on a dark la.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hans is coming to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Big day? You know, last day

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Speaker 1: we uh we see the Texas backdrop for you, and

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Speaker 1: the first day we welcome in Brian Baldinger to the show. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean what, it's a big show. It's a big show. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I really like to allow Greg to make the opening

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Speaker 1: comment because it's a total dice roll on how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. And I thought you did a nice job there, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I myself would not want the responsibility. We definitely miss

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesley increasingly. We definitely have had Baldy on our

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Speaker 1: show in some capacity now, whether it's been on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: Twitter show. Actually he appeared on our Twitter show and

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Speaker 1: um and it was actually a Chris wesleyan kind of

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Speaker 1: run segment where he broke down some film with us

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Speaker 1: some degree. So Greg, do you want to take a

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Speaker 1: second shot. I mean, this is the podcast. Those shows,

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Speaker 1: those are blasted off into the sun. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's been on our podcast. I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: because I just feel like I would remember him in

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Speaker 1: the studio, and we almost never did. You would definitely

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Speaker 1: remember Greg, There's no little bit, no question. Guy's got

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Speaker 1: a memory of a goldfish, all right. And just just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of internal housekeeping here, Mark Sessler, you

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Speaker 1: are not allowed to opt out of this podcast doctor's

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Speaker 1: note or no, you're here? I mean if you were to, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is our equivalent of a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars off like a star NFL's contract twenty six

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Speaker 1: bucks or something. I don't. I don't. There's no option

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Speaker 1: to not be here. I am here, here, I am.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a good question. Let's say I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: throw a random number out there. I mean, we're making

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Speaker 1: close to league minimum, I would imagine, so you'd have

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Speaker 1: you're not. Maybe the star player comparison doesn't work. You opted, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be awesome in our industry? Are our industries? League? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: If I gave you Mark grand as an opt out stipend,

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Speaker 1: would you take it for the entire year? And just yes,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would take it and immediately, um somehow

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Speaker 1: retroactively put it all into Kodak stock and just sort

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Speaker 1: of flying to the skies little Stock, little Stock go

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Speaker 1: on some nefarious stuff going on with It's it's really showing, um,

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Speaker 1: the full breadth of the Sessler knowledge. I love it

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Speaker 1: too much as Twitter middle school. Also, um weird because

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Speaker 1: West obviously down right now he's in the process of

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Speaker 1: fighting the big Cita for a second time, you would

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Speaker 1: be down to leave Greg and I alone on the

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Speaker 1: show for your little Kodak financial gambit. I think it's

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Speaker 1: you know, what I would compare it to, And I'm

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Speaker 1: different than you guys a little bit. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like when um, you suddenly of the house to yourself

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Speaker 1: for like a day, and it's awesome for a day,

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Speaker 1: but then it's a little bit less appealing. I think

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Speaker 1: the opt out would be an incredible freeing experience, and

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Speaker 1: then I'd be missing this and you guys soon after.

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Speaker 1: So it's probably you know, if if I had any advisors,

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Speaker 1: it's just alone. They're not making you know, they're basically

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Speaker 1: not they're not getting paid. They just get you know,

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Speaker 1: higher level and not have to pay it back. YEA fair,

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Speaker 1: many years like the Mark Sessler insurance scam related with

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But I feel like six seven years from that,

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Speaker 1: you guys can keep pinning all these things on me

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Speaker 1: and I will allow it today today alone. Yes, Brian

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Speaker 1: Baldinger is joining the Around the NFL podcast for perhaps

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Speaker 1: when it comes to tape dogging. With all due respect

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Speaker 1: himself with Baldy's breakdowns and all that. So we're happy

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Speaker 1: It was like the exact amount of time that Rab

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a little depth to this guy. He knows

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Speaker 1: he wasn't alone. Six players overall for the Paths opt out,

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Speaker 1: bigger problems. Well, this is a team that lost Jamie

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Speaker 1: person around this this year because he doesn't want to

425
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Speaker 1: take any risks. Yeah, and that's gonna be a huge challenge.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that on Monday show. That Yeah, not

427
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: making any excuses for them, but just asking these young

428
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: men rich have the world at their feet, to stay isolated,

429
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: stay inside for the greater good of their team, for

430
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: their families, for for the league itself. Well, there's gonna

431
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: be temptation. We're gonna see how it plays out. Let's

432
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Speaker 1: stick a pin and COVID nineteen talk for a while.

433
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: Okay until Friday now, so let's just wait until like

434
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: mid September. I'm with you. You know, the Chargers and

435
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: Defensive and Joey Bosa have reached agreement on an extension

436
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: five years. A hundred and thirty five million is the

437
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: report out there, keeps Bosa with the Chargers for the

438
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: next six seasons. That deal reportedly includes seventy eight million

439
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: guaranteed at signing in a hundred two million guaranteed. That's

440
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: a record for a defensive player. Um breaking your boy

441
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: Mark Cecil Miles Garrett who just got that big deal

442
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: from the Browns couple of weeks back. It is huge money.

443
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Does he deserve to get paid at that level? Greg Rosenthal, Yeah,

444
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: it's funny because Nick Bosa came in and he was

445
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: pretty flashy. It's like, Joey Bosa is still better. I mean,

446
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa last season is is one of the you know,

447
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: three or four best defensive player in the league. He's

448
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: such a freak. Uh, they've seen him enough, he had

449
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: the injuries a little bit early, he had the contract holdout.

450
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: I just think if you're gonna invest invest in a

451
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: guy like him, like just entering his prime, they know

452
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: him well, they know he works hard, all that all

453
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: that stuff, working hard, it's great being joe Joey, bossy,

454
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: freakishly talented is greater, you know. And he's he's proven that.

455
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't like get the attention that that

456
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: some other big time players are. But I think if

457
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: if you were holding like an NFL wide draft, and

458
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: uh like you have to take him by position and

459
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: you're doing pass rushers, I mean, I think most gms

460
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Speaker 1: would have him in their top two. I don't know,

461
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think like he might. He might be

462
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: the guy that they would say, if I have to

463
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: start a franchise with one pass rusher, he might be it. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 1: I think it was a no brainer signing and I

465
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: you know immediately it's compared to maybe the way the

466
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams situation was treated. In the positions they played this,

467
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: there were no there was no factor to not make

468
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: this happen with with someone that they've grown in house.

469
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: I think Tom Tals goes out a lot of talent

470
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: to that defense. You know, one little and I'm not

471
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: bringing up a Corona thing, but I will say something

472
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: that I found hopeful. If you go back and look

473
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Speaker 1: at what Bosa did as a rookie. He comes rolling in,

474
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: missing the first four games. He appears in week five,

475
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: everyone wondering what he'd be like, two sacks, totally dominant

476
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: right away. It kind of shows you that maybe a

477
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are gonna be They'll still find

478
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: a way to thrive at certain positions. He has nine

479
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: games with two plus sacks in his career. Um, you know,

480
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: I think you can look at the injury situation as

481
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: a little concerning He's he's missed thirteen games. Um, you know,

482
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: Clowney gets killed for that all the time. Clown He's

483
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: missed six games over four years, over the past four years. But, um,

484
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: no brainer, what are you doing if you don't resign him? Cornerback,

485
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: left tackle, edge rusher, cornerback. These are quarterback. These are

486
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: the premium positions that get the absurd a hundred million

487
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: plus guaranteed h type contracts. Boastes not even twenty five

488
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: yet he turns twenty five. This month. He's averaged almost

489
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: the sack of game since he entered the league. He's

490
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: a total stud and um, he's getting quarterback money. Yeah

491
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: if only he if only played in a bigger market,

492
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: like people would pay attention to him more. You know. Yeah,

493
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: they're market arguably shrunk somehow. I don't know. I have

494
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna what's gonna happen with the Chargers

495
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: in l A. But Uh, that effectively everything with that

496
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: gets the pause button gets pushed, which I'm sure Chargers

497
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: management is like, all right, that's not the worst thing

498
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: to happen. Uh this season. Uh, nobody's gonna be talking

499
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: about how nobody's in that building latching Chargers games, because

500
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be any in any building across the league

501
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: for the most part. Uh. In other news, the Titans

502
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: they use free agency to sign Vic Beasley, uh, to

503
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: give them, you know, increased pass rush. But here's an issue.

504
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: Beasley did not show up to the team facility with

505
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the veteran players to begin the COVID

506
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: nineteen screening, so the Titans then place him on the

507
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: reserve do not report list, and no reason was given

508
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: for Beasley's absence yesterday, Greg, was there anything new on this? No,

509
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: I did see our old I did. No one knows,

510
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: no one. I think. I think there's gonna be some

511
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: holes in reporting in general compared to most years. It's

512
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be able to have any reporters

513
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: at practices, like the contact between the teams, and all

514
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: the reporters are at home, so you might not get

515
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: the story. Sometimes. I did see our mark. One of

516
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: Mark's best friends, really his mentor, uh Di Orlando led

517
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Better um twet tweeted something didn't and he was just speculating,

518
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: but he said the reason Beasley couldn't get any trade

519
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: interest at the at the deadline last year when the

520
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: Falcons were trying to trade him, is that the word

521
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: around the team was that he didn't really, you know,

522
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: love football that much. That he seemed like a guy

523
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: that maybe could take it or leave it. And so

524
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Speaker 1: I don't know, ne Orlando lad Better recovered him for

525
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: four years, five years, was putting that and putting some context.

526
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: I doubt he would just put that out there without

527
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: having some feel of the situation, so that that's the

528
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: only context I have on that. I mean, it is

529
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: odd because they said that he was present and available

530
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and you know, around for every zoom meeting they did,

531
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: um obviously easier than he doesn't show up. It feels

532
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: like a very ripe scenario. And I don't know what

533
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: this individual is up to, but Frank Signetti has not

534
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: been on any sort of a real NFL case of late,

535
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: but something of a player. He's got a lot of

536
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: money attached, He's a prime position and he's gone a well.

537
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's a perfect place for a league mandated

538
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: p I to step in and you know, gum shoe

539
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: his way to which an answer here that would be

540
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: Frank shows up, crime hits the bricks. You know, Frank Signetti,

541
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, big part of this podcast. What was he?

542
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: You liked him when he was the Rams offensive coordinator,

543
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: I believe. But he's bounced around as a quarterback, you know,

544
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: according to his wiki page. That couldn't be wrong. Doesn't

545
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: seem like he has a gig right now, had one

546
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: last year. So well, he was always lighting, he's got

547
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: some time, he's got some I mean, the p I

548
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: thing was always happening kind of off the clock, right,

549
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting pulled into a case and and more

550
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. But he just has more time to

551
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: do what he's naturally gifted at, more so than being

552
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. You could scrub your own wiki, and

553
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, Frank is scrubbing the p I element of

554
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: that off the wiki because he's working a case or

555
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: now he's working a job, and that takes focus and

556
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: it takes a level of under the radar living. You

557
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: know what, he's actually at Boston College, short coordinator. It

558
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: was not in the NFL, but at Boston College. Yeah,

559
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: he's in Boston. He's doing a lot of Boston. I mean,

560
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: if you're working in college football, you're probably gonna have

561
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of time. This fault too. I would say, Uh,

562
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: connect some dots if you want to do a little

563
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Google search Boston College up there outside Boston. Um, what

564
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: dot Newton if there's any missing persons in Newton, Massachusetts. God,

565
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: it's a good chance that Frank Signetti is on the job.

566
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of d lad Mark Um not to keep up

567
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: bringing up COVID, but listen, it's insidious. As we've talked

568
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: about another bomber. You had a press pause on that

569
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Carnival cruise to Nova Scotia that you and the d

570
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: lads were gonna go on together. Sessler d led carnival

571
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: cruise trip together. Yeah, I see, I see no evidence

572
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: that my um admiration for him goes in the other directions.

573
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: So I didn't hear about that trip personally. He may

574
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: be going in And in other news, our friend Kyle

575
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Brandt of Good Morning Football has a new gig. I

576
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: guess he's moonlighting with the Ringer and he has a

577
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: program called Ten Questions with Kyle Brandt. And uh, the

578
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: premier episode, he starts with a bang because it's Aaron Rodgers,

579
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: star quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. Uh. Really some

580
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: good stuff. Rogers was very open with Kyle on a

581
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: number of topics, including what's going on with his future

582
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: in Green Bay and Jordan's love, the surprise first round

583
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: pick in Wisconsin, and Uh, I'm gonna play two clips

584
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: for you boys. The first one is Rogers kind of

585
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: throwing some cold water on people talking about the cyclical

586
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: nature of life. How what happened with Brett Farve and

587
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a rookie was similar to what happened

588
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: now with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's love. Here's what Rodgers

589
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: had to say, in two thousand uh four, the Packers

590
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: were uh ten and six in last in first round

591
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, we were thirteen and three, and you know,

592
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: one game from the super Bowl. I want a playoff

593
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: game at home. Obviously want our division A little different circumstance.

594
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Not to mention that Bretta talked about retiring for a

595
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: few years before that, so you know, I don't, and

596
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: I've talked about playing in my forties. So you know

597
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: that when people start talking about the parallels to this

598
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: and that, well, you know, I felt um they traded

599
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: up and Um drafted Jordan's and Rogers also, by the way,

600
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Rogers said, when the pick happened, he was tracking the

601
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: draft board in different wide receivers that he liked. And

602
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: then when Jordan's Love's name was called by Roger Goodell,

603
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: he poured himself four fingers of tequila because he knew

604
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: the firestorm that was headed his way. He was also, uh,

605
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: very open about what this means for his future and

606
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: the possibility, really the probability that he'll end his career elsewhere.

607
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that's probably what happens, you know, based on

608
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, just a circumstance around everything. You know, and

609
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: you look at just look at the facts. You know,

610
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: they traded up, they drafted him. I would say, they

611
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: like him, they want to play him, And I get it,

612
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: I really do. Like I don't harbor any ill will

613
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: about it. Like was I bummed out of course it

614
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be, you know, like I wanted to play my

615
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: entire career in green Bay, past tense. I wanted to

616
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: play my entire career in green Bay. It seems like

617
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: a man who's still processing it all, you know. It

618
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: was like it was like talking to someone who's in

619
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: the middle of you know, knowing maybe the relationship is

620
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna end and is putting on a tough front a

621
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: little bit, but it's still it's still a little fresh.

622
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Like he started with the kind of very cool and

623
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: calm and and the whole thing is calm, but without

624
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Kyle even sort of you know, asking another question. Aaron starts.

625
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers immediately starts bringing up all those differences between

626
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: his situation and Fire, like he has taken note of

627
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the differences that they are not the same situation. And

628
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: when he says he'll probably you know, be playing else

629
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. I I don't know, I I you just

630
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: see this little fire inside of him. That's like, I

631
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: don't know if he really believes that. I think in

632
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: his heart of hearts, he believes he's gonna light up

633
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: this uh, light up the field so much that they're

634
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: not gonna have a choice but to ever get rid

635
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: of him. Right, I mean that the story is far

636
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Speaker 1: from over, but I think the Kyle asked the question

637
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: in a good way. He basically said, he are we

638
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna move on from Aaron Rodgers if you're the Packers,

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Speaker 1: or do you just have a first round pick that

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Speaker 1: you traded up for sit on the bench and not

641
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Speaker 1: be used for four more seasons? As as you know,

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has said he wants to play into his forties,

643
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Speaker 1: and that's where he kind of came to the conclusion

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Speaker 1: again that yeah, I just don't see that happening. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the former that they probably move on from

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, which you know he's sort of hinted at

647
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: that before. But um, if that's in your mind as

648
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, as a starting quarterback in the franch the

649
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: face of your franchise, that's got to be a distraction,

650
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Speaker 1: no matter what you say, Right, I mean, it's got

651
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: to be something sitting in there in your head. They

652
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: brought in someone who looks like a potential replacement. He's

653
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: not a sixth rounder. He's not even like Jimmy Garoppolo

654
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: when they brought him and had nothing to do with

655
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Speaker 1: replacing Tom Brady at that point. And let's face it,

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00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: the way this our league is, when you have a

657
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: first round rookie on his first deal every year keep

658
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: him on the bench, you're wasting away, you know, golden

659
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Speaker 1: years in terms of cat flexibility and ability to get

660
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Speaker 1: a champion on the field with a cheap quarterback. I

661
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: just to me, it feels like a fifty fifty shot

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: at this point that this is Rogers last year in

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Speaker 1: green Back. I mean, the financials are tricky though, to

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Speaker 1: move them even after this season to something, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know you can work that out, though they

666
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: could probably find a way, I would guess, because what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do. What's your other move? Either bench

668
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or keep Jordan's Love a first round pick

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Speaker 1: on the bench until his third season. That just doesn't happen.

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00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't. But but there's a couple of factors. One,

671
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, Love is not going to get the build

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Speaker 1: up to his rookie season that you know, the Packers

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00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: would have liked. I mean, I think about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is build up, and this is back when we were

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Speaker 1: we were overly eager to like, you know, evaluate O

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Speaker 1: t A s and mini camps, but like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: was tearing, you know, he was like infamously terrible in

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Speaker 1: the off season and he started camp bad. And everyone

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay is like, Craig Noll is better than

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Speaker 1: this guy. You know, acknowledge, you know, And the odds

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Speaker 1: on Jordan's Love, who was very raw, to put it

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Speaker 1: mildly coming out of college, like looking like a world

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Speaker 1: beater right away, it's pretty long. Like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's going to be the backup. It might be Tim,

685
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Speaker 1: Tim Boyle, and who knows, Jordan's Love might never be

686
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Speaker 1: that great. I mean that's the thing, Like drafted a

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Speaker 1: guy in the first rounds easy him him being anywhere

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Speaker 1: close to where Aaron Rodgers was after a few years

689
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL, good luck with that. I mean it's

690
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: when I see that, you know, borrowing a regime change.

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00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: The front office went out of the way to trade

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Speaker 1: up for him. When front officers do that, they want

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Speaker 1: to see a return on investment, and they want to

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Speaker 1: see the player. And how many guys have been labeled

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Speaker 1: as raw and red shirt and projects and then a

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Speaker 1: year later their stars. I mean, I could give you

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Speaker 1: fifteen of them, all right, let's hear well, I'll put

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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: it in a written piece and send it away. An

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00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: all time for right now called him on his bluff. Well,

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00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: you know what. There were people saying, well, I'm not

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: sure Patrick Mahones, even Mahomes was spoken about that way,

702
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, Shaun Watson, every one. You know, it's all well,

703
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I've teased my article. I've given you two of my fifteen,

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Speaker 1: So that's how you do it. Finally, in the news,

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Speaker 1: John Lynch, Oh, what a success it's been in San Francisco,

706
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: the general manager who was hired without any front office

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Speaker 1: experience back in January of two thousand seventeen. He's turned

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Speaker 1: that organization into one of the top teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: and they rewarded him for it with a new contract extension.

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00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Mike Garifolo reported it's a multi year deal will keep

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00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: him in charge of the team through good job by

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Speaker 1: you and Mr Lynch and good job by the Niners

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: for thinking outside the box, which not enough teams do,

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00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: let's face and for almost letting your coach who is

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Speaker 1: all you know, deciding pretty much right away when you

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Speaker 1: hired Chan him, he's the key guy. Let's find someone

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: that works with you know, every every situation is a

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Speaker 1: little different. I don't think you can expect that out

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Speaker 1: of each um, but Shanahan is still the key guy,

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Speaker 1: and I think Lynch is there to like execute a vision.

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Speaker 1: It's a way in which Kyle Shanahan is already better

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Speaker 1: than Mike Sanahan, because Mike Sanahan, to me, was one

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Speaker 1: of the best coaches of all time, and he ruined

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Speaker 1: it by always being in fighting with his want with

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: his would be general managers, and he was always fighting

726
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: for power and it was always a distraction and it

727
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: wasn't good at the g M part of it either.

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Speaker 1: And Kyle, Kyle and John Lynch seemed like they worked

729
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: great together. And it reminds me of Pete Carroll and

730
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Speaker 1: Schneider because Pete Carroll's the key guy and Schneider is

731
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Speaker 1: the one okay executing what what Pete Carroll wants to do.

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Speaker 1: It's similar in San Francisco. Yeah, I like the way

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Speaker 1: you put that, and I'm sure Kyle Shanahan learned, you know,

734
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: infinite amounts from experiencing what his dad went through. And

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00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: their demeanors are a little bit different, but you know,

736
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a year ago that that you know,

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00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: people were wondering, is John Lynch on the hot seat?

738
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Speaker 1: Is Kyle Shanahan on the hot seat? And it shows

739
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: you how much can change in a year. But they

740
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: always were um, well matched and married together and the

741
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: best teams do that, and it's incredible how many teams

742
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: in sports struggle to do that and its ego, Uh,

743
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: it's in the in the opposite is happening here. And

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: I think that John Lynch, you know, a lot of

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00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: people when he came in off out of you know,

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00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: former player in the media, it's like, well, that's not

747
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: where a GM comes from. Well, Mike Mayok has showing

748
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: you that's not true also, and Lynch, Um, it kind

749
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: of reminds you what happened in Buffalo a little bit too.

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00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Coach and GM quickly got the right players in place

751
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: to give Shanahan the right kind of players he needed

752
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: for his offense, where other teams you're into the year

753
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: three or four of a GM and a coach and like, oh,

754
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: we're still missing like all these key ingredients to functionally

755
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: operate on a Sunday. It's like, can you please get

756
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: your act together? Not the case in San Francisco. All right,

757
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news alright. As promised one

758
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: of our favorites in the football Gagna cent and it

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: just so happens that he is a colleague of ours

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Speaker 1: with NFL Network, the great Brian Baldinger, better known as Baldy.

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00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Baldi, good to

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: join you, guys man. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we've kicked the season off. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like it. I think it was officially kicked off,

765
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: so uh, I know, at least there's some news to

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00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: talk about here, and we could kind of get into

767
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: the lee a little bit more than you know, what

768
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: we've done over the last four months. Yeah, we could

769
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Speaker 1: definitely get into the league. But I definitely want to

770
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Speaker 1: start because you know, we've all been with NFL media

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Speaker 1: for years now and and Baldi is something of a

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00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: legendary figure behind the scenes at NFL media because you're

773
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: so well known for your globe trotting and your adventures.

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Speaker 1: And I was just wondering if during the this this

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic which has kept us all, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: sheltered in place for the most part, Uh, if if

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Speaker 1: this were not, if this were normal times, would you

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Speaker 1: be on a beach in Bali somewhere, you know, chewing

779
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: eight on a beach and while supermodels dance around you

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00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: in front of a bonfire, Like, are you missing out

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00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: on that type of Baldi type of venture? I am?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I used out. I was. I was all

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Speaker 1: scheduled on a trip to Romania. I was going to

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Speaker 1: boot Rest. It was the hidden jewel of Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 1: Hadn't been there one of the sixty eight country I mean,

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Speaker 1: only been to sixty eight countries. So I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get some more notches on that that one. I had

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Speaker 1: a trip with my mom to Sicily had one. I

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00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: just wanted to go for the connol. He's honestly, I

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Speaker 1: think I could have gotten here. My mom probably would

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00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: have bagged the trip, but I would have. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know if I could get back and friends, which is

793
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: not a bad place to be stuck. But the only

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00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: person who still calls you, Brian, your mom. She's she's so,

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Speaker 1: she's alone, He's alone. One left. But you know when

796
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Speaker 1: your when your mom could call you, really, anything she

797
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Speaker 1: wants goes by the first. I feel like, no if

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Speaker 1: I ris can totally contain Baldi though, And I do

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Speaker 1: see your back, your backgrounds. You're at NFL Films, so

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Speaker 1: you're back. You're back in the building. They couldn't keep

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Speaker 1: you out. I guess I'm on the list every day.

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00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Every day I'm on the list here. Um uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they take my temperature. I guess my temperature every day.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm somewhere between ninety seven points and ninety seven

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Speaker 1: point nine. I guess my temperature every day. I follow

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Speaker 1: the guidelines here. But I'm on the third floor. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: there's two guys in I t that are there, Thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: because they helped me out. And that's it. So I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've got my own floor, my own desk,

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Speaker 1: film lie library. I mean really, And I joke with

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Speaker 1: people about this situation that we went about practicing citing,

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Speaker 1: you know, social distancing. I'm like, I practure I practice

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00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: social distancing every day up here, you know, And everybody

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Speaker 1: wants to come into the film room, and usually what

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Speaker 1: happens is they fall asleep, but I kick him out

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00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: and I don't let him come back in. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I really haven't changed that much

818
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: for me here. But you know, obviously we're through some

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00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: some trying time, so I'm not I'm not being cavalier

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Speaker 1: about it, but really, I mean, I'm glad I've kind

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Speaker 1: of have really changed my lifestyle much at all. And

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Speaker 1: you're right, I haven't. They haven't really been able to

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Speaker 1: contain me. I'm beginning all over the country. Been going

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Speaker 1: to a bunch of different camps. Over the last couple

825
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Speaker 1: of weeks. I was at a quarterback camp for high

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Speaker 1: school players, the top high school quarterbacks in Indianapolis. I

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Speaker 1: saw Frank Wrich and Chris Ballard and and honestly, the

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Speaker 1: wave of quarterbacks that are gonna come our way here

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Speaker 1: pretty soon. They are there advanced. I mean, they've been

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Speaker 1: well coached by a lot of people. Wow, give us

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Speaker 1: the next Joe Burrow that no one has even heard

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Speaker 1: of yet. Good, good, good, good question. I tell you this,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, who's the number one high school recruiting the

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Speaker 1: country out of Washington, d C. Is going to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: You're coming up on a senior year. I sat him

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Speaker 1: in the film room and there wasn't anything that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't spit back at me the game. But if you

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Speaker 1: put him in Indianapolis at this year's combine, you might

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Speaker 1: have thought that he could throw the ball with Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow every day any day. I mean, take the names

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Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey's. I mean, this guy

842
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: is six three to twenty and he's got a cannon,

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00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: but he's smart. He knows where to go with the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's what we're talking about him in probably

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Speaker 1: like three or four years right now. Mm hmm. You

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00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: know I thought the I think the last time I

847
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: saw you in person, and this was a chance running

848
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: wasn't at the Century City Mall here in Los Angeles,

849
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and I um had it was a day off from work.

850
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: I had just come out of seeing Jennifer Lopez and Hustlers,

851
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that he asked what I had watched.

852
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I was honest with you about

853
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: what I had seen, because I was I'm dealing with

854
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: that's still on this show, but a good film, but

855
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: that feels like a different time. We can't do any

856
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: of that these twodays, and we can. We can still

857
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: discuss some of these issues. We had a lot to

858
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: get to it. I I want to ask, because we

859
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit of forty ninersa John Lynch,

860
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: they just gave him the extension. I have been super

861
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: pro Kyle Shanahan on this show for a long time.

862
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: And tell me if you think I'm right or wrong

863
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: when I just think that he is the greatest in

864
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: game play caller that the NFL has today. Um and

865
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: that I am I'm not seeing. I think the ceiling

866
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: for Jimmy g has not been found because of his

867
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: coach and because of the way that he calls offense.

868
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Uh you know, look, Kyle is I mean,

869
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: obviously he's been trained by his dad, he's been around

870
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: in his whole life. But I think that Jimmy Gan,

871
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: any quarterback that would ever play for him, from Matt Ryan,

872
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: you you name the guy that's play for him, They're

873
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: they're always gonna get challenged. They're gonna get challenged every

874
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: day in practice, during games. Um, how he calls a game,

875
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's just a rhythm to it. There's uh,

876
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: there is a next level of how he the run

877
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: game is amazing. Um, you go back and you watch

878
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: him against Carolina this year. I mean there are plays

879
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: they didn't block lou keekly, but they knew they we're

880
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna block him. They knew the play action and motion

881
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: and um, the quarterback play fakes. We're gonna take care

882
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: of one of the premier players in this league. I

883
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: think that the play action game that he has is

884
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: is creative and innovative as we not as we have

885
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: in the game today, but as we've ever seen in

886
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: the game. About the history, I mean, he's just a

887
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: difference maker. Um. I think that the best is yet

888
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: to come. And and people could point to the fourth

889
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: quarter of this most recent Super Bowl game or the

890
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against New England, you can you can point

891
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: fault at Kyle and some of the things that he

892
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: might have done wrong. Um, but it's not gonna it really.

893
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I know it irks fans of those teams, but I

894
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: don't think it irks him. I don't think he stays

895
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: up at night thinking about the play call that he

896
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: could have done with Jimmy g this year or Matt Ryan,

897
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, four or five years ago. I think he's

898
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: just looking for the next game, um, to try to

899
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: to try to win. And I don't think it's gonna

900
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: change whether it's regular season or postseason or Super Bowl.

901
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I want to talk about, uh, the Tampa

902
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers because you did an NFL Network hit today,

903
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: I believe where you discuss their front seven and how

904
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: it played as well as any front seven in the

905
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: entire league in the last six weeks. Uh. And everyone

906
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: knows what's going on the offensive side of the ball

907
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady there? Do the Bucks to you? And

908
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: you you study all these teams as well or better

909
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: than anybody they are. The Bucks are one of those

910
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: teams that to you is a little bit under the

911
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: radar as a Super Bowl contender. You know, you have

912
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the teams of the obvious contenders, but can the Buck

913
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: The Bucks have the talent and the ability you think

914
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: in the coaching to maybe go on a runner. And

915
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: are there any other teams that you've been studying that's like, Wow,

916
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: this team is way better than people realize. Well, I

917
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: think Tampa. You know, I to watch them play football.

918
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: The last six weeks, they scored four defensive touchdowns. Um,

919
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, they brought everybody back. And so if you

920
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: look at J P. P and Shaq Barrett on the edges,

921
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: and you look at Vita Villa and in Dominican su

922
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: domin who has never missed a game. I know he's

923
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: been suspended, He's never missed a game. I mean he's

924
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: a complete pro. So a guy like Vida Vella watches

925
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: and Dominicans sue, how he takes care of himself, how

926
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: he prepares, how he gets his body ready. I mean

927
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: he is a Polynesian power, just a tsunami of power

928
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: inside no one guy can fly. And then if you

929
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: look at what really Devin White did the second half

930
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: of the season, I mean he's gonna be the Pro Bowlman.

931
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: A linebacker for a long time, Nick Lavante David that

932
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: front coached by a very good coordinator, Todd Bowls, God Bowls. Baby. Well,

933
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: I look, I know people Bowls in New York. I

934
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: mean they think, but Todd Bowl has always been a

935
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I think he knows how to communicate and I think

936
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: he knows how to really put players in great positions

937
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: to make plays, and he's got a lot of talent.

938
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Now you can say the back end, okay, the back end.

939
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: All he did was they made their mistakes. They played

940
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: a ton of young guys, rookie second year of players

941
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: last year, Jamaldine, you go through the list of all

942
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: the guys, I think they're just gonna get better in

943
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: the front. Andybody knows that everybody's back into their defense

944
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: plays better when the front is dominant. And so look

945
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: at Tom Brady. I mean you look at they had

946
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: seven pick sixes last year, including the final play of

947
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the season against the Falcons in overtime. That's how the

948
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: season ended. What jameis Winston throwing a pick six might

949
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: still be on the team if he didn't throw that ball.

950
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: Was that I think he might still be on the

951
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: team if he didn't throw that ball. Season ended on

952
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: a pick I mean seven, that's never been done. We've

953
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: seen a lot of quarterbacks that have dubious distinctions, and

954
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: the hun of your history of this sleep seven pick sixes.

955
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to do. And they're seeing that way. And

956
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: we know that Tom Brady, if he throws one, he's

957
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: not sleeping for a week and he's just gonna make

958
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: up for it. So I mean, I think if you

959
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: cut down on the mistakes on offense, if you look

960
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: at what they're bringing back on defense, and if anybody

961
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: knows Bruce Arians, I know you'all do, but he's the

962
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: anti Belichick. I mean, you can get a great joke

963
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: from Bruce Arians ten minutes before kickoff. I mean, he's

964
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: just now, he's gonna jump the officials. He's not gonna

965
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: be happy during the game, but he's loose all you know.

966
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know the thing that always

967
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: irked me as a player is when coaches would tell

968
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: you all week long, you know, go back, you know,

969
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: like all week long they're just all tight. They're worried,

970
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're like they're scaring their own shadows.

971
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: And then the pregame speeches. Go out and have fun. Well,

972
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: players go out and have fun every day. I think

973
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Brady is gonna love him now. He he may not

974
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: love the the exact culture right now, but he'll I've

975
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: already talked to Ryan Jensen about Tom Brady. He gets

976
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: a dissertation every days with him on thirty minutes or

977
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: just snapping the football, you know, where he wants the

978
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: towel what like how damp he wants to tell that

979
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: he wears where the laces need to be shotgun understanding,

980
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean he gets a dissertations happened the ball? I

981
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: mean this is what you're gonna get from Green, right,

982
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna get an offensive line coach along with the

983
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: quarterback because and I do think there's a concern with

984
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: their line. You know, the tackle positions. Will see if

985
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: you know the rookie works out worse. We'll see if

986
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith plays a little bitter. But ultimately Brady is

987
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna make them look better. He always does. He makes

988
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: his line better. I think how he would want, like

989
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: a longer off season. He's tried to have it with

990
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: the workouts that he have. But you've been in the league,

991
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: you know as a player. You've been in this broadcasting

992
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: business for over twenty years now too, so you're a vet.

993
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: You've been to these camps a ton like we're never

994
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna see in August like this. I guess I'm wondering

995
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: if someone who's been there, who knows what it's like

996
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: to prepare for a season, what do you think is

997
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen in it. Let's say it all goes well

998
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: like it goes how they want to. You've got about

999
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: two weeks really to get ready, two or three weeks.

1000
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: You've got a couple of weeks where you're actually tackling

1001
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: in pads, like what do you think is going to

1002
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: be the fallout of that sort of run up to

1003
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: to season. But even before this pandemic, I mean, nobody

1004
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: was playing in August, and so September was the new August,

1005
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we saw a lot of bad football.

1006
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: We saw the Patriots get off to horrendous starts wanted

1007
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: to start so until we saw them get off the

1008
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: bad starts and then fix and they use September to

1009
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: really fix what was broken and figure out the best

1010
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: way to win football games. I mean they were, I mean,

1011
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: they were the poster child for being able to do that.

1012
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: So if that was the whey it was before this pandemic,

1013
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: and we're looking at basically six weeks now to ratch

1014
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: it up for the season, I think the teams that

1015
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: handled the next six weeks the best are gonna get

1016
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: off to the best start. But regardless of what kind

1017
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: of start we see, I mean October is gonna be

1018
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: the new September. I mean, we may not see really

1019
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: good football until October this year because we're gonna get

1020
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries where you know, I mean whoever.

1021
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I could look at everybody's starting lineup. I

1022
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: doubt anybody's gonna start their twenty two that they have

1023
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: right now lined up. I'm we're just gonna see injuries

1024
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: because they're just not gonna get battle tests now. I

1025
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: talked to some teams like the Eagles. Um, they're gonna

1026
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: have two scrimmages, you know, once you put the pads

1027
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: on starting August seventeen. I mean they they want to

1028
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: try to get to as much full speed contact and work.

1029
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: And I'm sure other teams have other things. But I'm

1030
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: sure Jim Harball is not gonna go, you know, three

1031
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: weeks about a lot of contact. I mean, it's just

1032
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: who he is. But so, I mean teams are gonna

1033
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: do it differently. But how you handle these next six weeks,

1034
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: how do you come out of it? You know, from

1035
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen positive negative stance, how have you come

1036
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: out of an injury wise? How you get the bodies

1037
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: ready to play? How you get teams prepared to play

1038
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: at high levels starting September ten or the thirteenth. Whenever

1039
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: you start. I mean, whoever does that the best? He's

1040
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna get off to a good start. Um, get off

1041
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: to the best start. And I think it's gonna be

1042
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: really important this year. Ball. They thank you so much

1043
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: for joining us. You really are like the Tony Stark

1044
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: of NFL media, but also knowing better in the business

1045
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: realm to give a alright, follow Baldy everywhere. He's the

1046
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: best in the business. Thanks buddy, Thanks, thanks for having

1047
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: appreciate Thanks Baldi. I I do remember him like doing

1048
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: some Fox games and I was in college. Baldi has

1049
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: been part of our lives. Oh yeah, for a long

1050
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: time before he was colleagues. Um, all right, that was excellent.

1051
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: So this boys and girls, you could come back now.

1052
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: This brings an end to my time here in Texas.

1053
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to Bill O'Brien

1054
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: for having me here. Uh. In his attic, things did

1055
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: calm down after last week's issues and uh, and I

1056
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: look forward to heading back to l A and rejoining

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Speaker 1: you guys in the same city tomorrow. And I want

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Speaker 1: to also thank of course the Gatesville Messenger. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: not not this headline not vehicle theft leads to extensive

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Speaker 1: man hunt, respect shoots, found this guy or what. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but it doesn't matter because the zeuser is

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Speaker 1: on the front page of the Gatesville Messenger this week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been great being here. I look forward to returning

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Speaker 1: and and we'll be back as a group maybe Friday.

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Speaker 1: Are we planning Friday show? Did we ever decide that?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a probable. It's a probable, assuming we

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Speaker 1: have may be a mini show if if if so

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Speaker 1: be if that's all we have. Yeah, what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: network exactly, So make sure uh to tune in for

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Speaker 1: that and thank you everybody for listening. Um. Until then,

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Speaker 1: this is Dan hands Is signing off for Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the mail Man, the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass. Yeah, I said mail Man, because he's with us,

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Speaker 1: he always is. Jill. Maybe Friday,