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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing from here on this Wednesday? Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: sky test with the Near One Bill's Live is the show.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us, and you know we'll

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Speaker 2: keep uh the roster in mind today it'll be front

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Speaker 2: and center and we'll explain in a little bit. We'll

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Speaker 2: also begin to take a look at the other teams

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Speaker 2: in the division. And I know we've touched on it

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Speaker 2: a little bit here and there, And I said it

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Speaker 2: last year when I was convinced that the Patriots had

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Speaker 2: their franchise quarterback in Drake May. I was convinced of

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Speaker 2: it last year. And now with what they've done in

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Speaker 2: one off season where they had one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: million in cap space to utilize and along with about

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Speaker 2: eleven or twelve draft picks, I think they've positioned themselves

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Speaker 2: quite well to begin the upswing along with Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: your point, Mike Rabel as head coach. But we'll get

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Speaker 2: into that in the second hour of the show, because

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Speaker 2: that's when we are joined by ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Raese,

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Speaker 2: friend of the show who's been covering that team for

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Speaker 2: twenty five plus years, so we'll catch up with him

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Speaker 2: an hour number two. Because I do think there were

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Speaker 2: some good things that the Patriots did do in the

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Speaker 2: draft where they needed help, you know, first and foremost.

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Speaker 2: I think they kind of hit the draft similar to

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Speaker 2: the way the Bills did in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: hard not to think they addressed some of their most

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Speaker 2: pressing needs. Now, the Patriots had a lot more than

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Speaker 2: the Bills did just in terms of roster holes and

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Speaker 2: the like, but I thought they did pretty well with

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Speaker 1: It's interesting their draft is kind of a i don't know,

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Speaker 1: offensive defense photo negative of where Buffalo's was. They took offense, offense, offense, offense,

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Speaker 1: defense in the first five picks they had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bills went defense with the first five, then a

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Speaker 2: tight end and then right back to defense.

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Speaker 1: Right they went offense all the way through their first five,

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Speaker 1: then took a then took a safety at their fifth pick,

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Speaker 1: the other way. So, yeah, that was completely different and

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Speaker 1: the right way for the Patriots. And from a million

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Speaker 1: miles away, the Patriots did it the right way, just

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Speaker 1: like the Bills did. They helped the side of the

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think they're at the Bills level

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Speaker 2: be a much tougher out this year than they've been

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Speaker 2: the last couple years. They're I think they're better equipped

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Speaker 2: the end of a football game, so not make it

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Speaker 2: easy for you, I guess, for lack of a better description.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that more an hour number two

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Speaker 2: as we begin our look around the division in the

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Speaker 2: wake of the draft and what teams have added this

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Speaker 2: offseason to their ranks. But why don't we just kind

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Speaker 2: of jump right in to news around the NFL, because

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Speaker 2: there was some interesting news today around the league via

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Speaker 2: the trade route, among other things, And will begin first

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Speaker 2: with the biggest player release of the day, and that

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Speaker 2: would be Jaguars releasing wide receiver Gabe Davis today, just

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Speaker 2: a year after signing him to a three year, thirty

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Speaker 2: nine million dollar contract. Jaguars are eating twenty point three

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Speaker 2: Davis had a career low forty seven point six catch

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Speaker 2: that contract was guaranteed, ten million, of which was paid

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they're almost completely done with his guaranteed money,

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Speaker 1: little shocking, right when you look, you think it's kind

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Speaker 1: get it. He had twenty catches.

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Speaker 2: For less than two hundred and fifty yards. That's not

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've said it's rare that you see a

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Speaker 1: and certainly Gabe is an example of that. He did

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they they just didn't see the value and

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Speaker 2: injuries were again a problem for him. I mean, people

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Speaker 2: we'll see if there's a landing spot for Gabe Davis.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's room for him here quite frankly.

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Speaker 2: I know some people will be like, bring him back.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 2: Barely over fifty percent catch rate player here, injuries started

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Speaker 2: to become more frequent now he's two years older. Like,

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Speaker 1: That's correct, Yeah, I just and I think they like

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Speaker 1: the makeup of their room now, yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: You know they were watching highlights now the game in

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Speaker 1: the four touchdown game against the you know, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Yeah, and as you might imagining

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Speaker 1: his teammates, uh, you know, Mitch Morse also played with

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Speaker 1: with him scratching his head over it.

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Speaker 2: He tweeted the following saying, absolute tone center in the

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Speaker 2: locker room and on the field, perfect colure. Guy played

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Speaker 2: hurt all last year, didn't complain about it once. Having

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Speaker 2: a tough time wrapping my head around this one. That's

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Speaker 2: what Mitch had to say about the player release of

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Speaker 2: landing spot. Meanwhile, in other receiver news, the Cowboys have

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Speaker 2: swung a trade for wide receiver help. They acquire wide

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Speaker 2: receiver George Pickens and a sixth round pick in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. It marks the third trade in the

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Speaker 2: traded for Brandon Cooks in twenty twenty three. Jonathan Mingo

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Speaker 2: last year in a deal with Carolina and now Pickens.

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Speaker 2: Here in twenty twenty five, the funniest tweet I saw

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Speaker 2: about this trade, Steve. They said the following the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: is selling. So let's run down the list, shall we.

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Speaker 2: Now Mike Wallace was not traded, Okay, they let him

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Speaker 2: Antonio Holmes traded to the Jets. Couple of fifty catch

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Speaker 2: a horrible preseason that was documented on Hard Knocks. Remember

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Speaker 2: he froze his foot in the cryo chamber and that

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Speaker 2: whole thing and running around like a lunatic. Plays briefly

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Speaker 2: then done for his career.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget how he ended his career.

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Speaker 2: Oh, in spectacular stripping on the field fash fashion, stripped

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Speaker 1: Get the straight jacket, yep.

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Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster traded to the Chiefs, had a nine

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Speaker 2: only twenty eight years old. They got rid of him

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Speaker 3: Peak of your playing careers, which is what they've done

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Speaker 1: That's like a car. That's like a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: And then there's Deontay Johnson gets traded to Carolina, then

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Speaker 1: All the way, guys, nothing think about all those guys,

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Speaker 1: Mike Waller, SnO Santonio Holmes, Antonio Brown, Juju Smiths Shoes,

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Speaker 1: Dante Johnson. They were all killing it in Pittsburgh for

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Speaker 1: and get like Santonio Holmes played for a while after

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Speaker 1: just he was just another guy. These guys were.

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Speaker 2: He went from game winning touchdown receiver in the Super

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The golden rule.

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Speaker 3: Never buy a receiver that Mike Tomlin is selling, because

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Speaker 3: if they're selling him, it's because they can't keep a

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Speaker 1: That's there's some beauty's in there. Now.

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Speaker 2: Here's one interesting footnote to Pickens being shipped out of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers as they prepare to enter the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: It's only the fourteenth time in the Super Bowl era

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Speaker 1: The thing too, is they did get I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: like they still have the wide out from Seattle, DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers lands in Pittsburgh, which is really the key

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, it's it's it's the abit, it's the

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Speaker 1: Abysses and the steel curtain has been pulled. It's it's over.

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Speaker 1: It's curtains for them. It's yeah, dk Metcalf will be

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Speaker 2: A thousand yards receiving. There is still uncertainty in New

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Speaker 2: due to a shoulder a ailment that likely requires surgery.

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Speaker 2: Carr has been to New Orleans twice in recent weeks

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Speaker 2: and his preference is to avoid shoulder surgery. According to

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Speaker 2: an NFL Network report, Carr is dealing with a shoulder

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Speaker 2: injury on his throwing arm that could put his twenty

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised if carrs like, well, let

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Speaker 1: Now they've touched on everything that we had seen in

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Speaker 1: Harry, you're all one, Bill's live.

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Speaker 4: Hi Harry, Hi, I'm hi Steve. How are you guys

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Speaker 4: doing good? I just wanted to let you know, Steve,

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for calling Harry. As far as safety goes,

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Speaker 1: They don't always do that with rookies.

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Speaker 2: They usually find an initial role for them, leave them there,

436
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Speaker 2: let them get settled, and then if they want to

437
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Speaker 2: branch out, they let them do that. But that'll be

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Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on too, especially here in

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Speaker 2: the OTAs. Coming up next week to Carol in Tonawanda,

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Carol?

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Speaker 6: Hi, guys, it's good to talk to you again. I

443
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Speaker 6: think Bean and the Bills did a great job with

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Speaker 6: the draft and free agency. Now they just need to

445
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Speaker 6: put all the pieces together. One thing that I think

446
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Speaker 6: would top the team off not related to players, but

447
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Speaker 6: more so to the coaches would be to develop some

448
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Speaker 6: specialty plays during the playoffs. I remember Allen said he

449
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Speaker 6: didn't want to share all the elements in his arsenal,

450
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Speaker 6: but it really didn't seem like there was anything new

451
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Speaker 6: except maybe swapping out some different players with the existing

452
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Speaker 6: plays that they had. I know that, you know, they

453
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Speaker 6: were playing against a tough defense with the Chiefs, and

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Speaker 6: we don't want trick plays. But that's something that I

455
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Speaker 6: think needs to be developed. Up to wait to hear

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Speaker 6: with what you have to say.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Errol. Carol took a different angle on it, less

458
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Speaker 2: personnel morey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can listen to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because those games are usually tight. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: every year they're tight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, both times the teams play, they're tight.

463
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Speaker 2: You got something up your sleeve, but to call at

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Speaker 2: the right time.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, it Bills fans see the

466
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Speaker 1: Chiefs and Bills play all the time. There's some of

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Speaker 1: the best games in the league every year. It's it's

468
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Speaker 1: it's you can't not watch those games, right, They're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: The players are great. Mahomes and Reid are great, Alan

470
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Speaker 1: and McDermott and the whole crew is great. Sometimes I

471
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Speaker 1: think it's Bills fans. You're looking at it, going, Man,

472
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Speaker 1: those guys do stuff we've never seen, you know what

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, the the shovel passes and the red zone

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Speaker 1: and to all these different guys, and you know, the

475
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Speaker 1: lateral pass coming down the middle of the field, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, so you know, Kelsey throws the

477
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Speaker 1: ball out to the sideline, kind of all that stuff.

478
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Speaker 1: Some of it's impromptu, but some of it is Andy Reid, right,

479
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Speaker 1: And I think we kind of covet having some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff that nobody has seen before. Doing some of

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Speaker 1: that creative stuff. Well, yeah, and I can hear it.

482
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Speaker 1: I'll listen to it. It's hard to come up with

483
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Speaker 1: stuff that's never been done before.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs did that in the Super Bowl against the

485
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Speaker 2: Niners a couple of years ago. They had some plays

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Speaker 2: that the Niners said we had not seen before. Everyone

487
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Speaker 2: talked for a long time about the Eagles being aggressive

488
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Speaker 2: and running Philly Special right against the Patriots and beat

489
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Speaker 2: them in the Super Bowl. That was somewhat of a

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Speaker 2: catalyst type play for them. So yeah, I mean usually

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Speaker 2: in those tight playoff games, fortune usually favors the bold

492
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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs have have handful of examples of that

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Speaker 2: in playoff games. The Eagles obviously in that Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: you know, with the Nick Foles. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said for that. Have

496
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Speaker 2: just a menu, especially if you get to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got two weeks to get ready for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got I as well, have a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. You don't care who sees you know, you

500
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Speaker 1: don't care what happens after that. I mean, it's all

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Speaker 1: about that one game and you pull out all the stops.

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Speaker 1: There's no it's all gas, no brakes. It's aggressive on

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Speaker 1: every play, whether you're up thirty or down thirty, you

504
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: gotta go. You gotta just keep throwing it, keep slinging it,

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Speaker 1: and keep calling everything. So yeah, I'm it's not just

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Speaker 1: for that, but it's in any end of season scenario,

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Speaker 1: any any point through the playoffs. So I'll listen to

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea. The finishing touches needs. You need

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Speaker 1: to be able to be creative, and I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: We are up against the break here, so we will

511
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Speaker 2: step aside. But when we come back, more of your

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Speaker 2: phone calls as we are asking you, what is your

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Speaker 2: finishing touch for the Bills roster. Could be personnel related,

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00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: could be schame related, could be coaching related. You let

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Speaker 2: us know at ADO three oh five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty more of your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and talking

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Speaker 2: about what final touch you would put on the Bills

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Speaker 2: roster for the twenty twenty five season. Could be personnel related,

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Speaker 2: could be scheme related. Whatever is on your mind that

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Speaker 2: you think would put a finishing touch to the Bills roster.

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Speaker 2: You let us know at ADO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. Back to

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Speaker 2: the phones we go, and to Bob on a sell.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Bob?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how you doing good?

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Speaker 5: Good? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I think the only thing we need to do

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Speaker 7: is get the season. I still love this team. I

532
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 7: called you a little while back. You know, I'm sixty five.

533
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 7: I was at the third Super Bowl. I gave you

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Speaker 7: that nickname, Steve, and I just love what's happening here.

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Speaker 7: I mean, what we got going here goes back to

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Speaker 7: ninety five. That was the last time we had it. This,

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Speaker 7: this coaching staff, these If I was a parent of

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Speaker 7: a kid, I would want my kid to be in.

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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills because of Sean McDermott, the.

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Speaker 7: Way he coaches teaches them to be human beings. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I just love it.

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Speaker 4: Steve.

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Speaker 7: I also want to love it. You know your commercials

544
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 7: and everything you do, and Brownie, I love what you

545
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Speaker 7: do too.

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Speaker 8: I do, I do, guys.

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Speaker 7: But I just think, like, if we could even just

548
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Speaker 7: have taken three points away from either side, the Bills

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Speaker 7: on the defense, takeaway three offense, get three more, we

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Speaker 7: almost see like forty and three, you know, I mean

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Speaker 7: that's unheard of. Yeah, we're not getting to the super Bowl,

552
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 7: but man, we're so close. We're right there. We're literally

553
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 7: like a play away from from doing this. But in

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Speaker 7: the meantime, I have learned to just kick back, love it,

555
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 7: enjoy it, Go Bills, and I can't wait to get started.

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Speaker 7: And uh, you guys have a great time and love

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Speaker 7: what you do. I really do everything you do.

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Speaker 4: It's so cool.

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 7: I'm so informed. I know what's going on all the time,

560
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 7: and I can really talk Buffalo Bill stuff and know

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Speaker 7: what I'm talking about. So thanks again, man, you guys

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Speaker 7: have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bob, and appreciate the kind words. And yeah, happy

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Speaker 2: to be of service. Uh yeah, I mean, look, people

565
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: just want to kick it off. They're they're satisfied. I said,

566
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Speaker 2: the thing that satisfaction rating is really high these days.

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Speaker 2: Are should doing?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? H? I'll say this. I agree

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Speaker 1: with Bob because of this reason. When you think about

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Speaker 1: this team, and I know we all it says, well,

571
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: of course, but I don't remember ever having a time

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Speaker 1: during the BIL, my time with the Bill since nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six, where I've been around a team year in,

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: year out. Every week coming into the season, You're He's right,

575
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: this football team is you just can't wait to see

576
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Speaker 1: him play. You just can't wait. It's just so during

577
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: the regular season, you just wish they'd played every day.

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Speaker 1: I would sit down and watch this team play all

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Speaker 1: because they're just Josh makes it so fun. The rest

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Speaker 1: of the guys, whoever they are, from year to year

581
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: to year to year, it's just an absolute blast. McDermott, bean,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is just must see. And I agree

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Speaker 1: with Bob. There's not much left except just to wait

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Speaker 1: for this thing to kick off. We're going at the

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Speaker 1: schedule next week, which is gonna be awesome. People start,

586
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Speaker 1: people start making travel, making travel plans. You just you

587
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Speaker 1: just don't want to miss any of these games all.

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Speaker 2: Steve actually watches a lot of these games over in

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Speaker 2: our office.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm like tighter, watched off up and I'm hearing highlights

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Speaker 2: and stuff over there. He's not watching highlights, he's watching

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Speaker 2: games from front to back. That's from like four years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, yes, yesterday, on the NFL network, the Bill's Denver

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Speaker 1: playoff game. This last year, the Wildcard game was on.

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Speaker 1: I watched it with Tony Romo and Jim Nantz when

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00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: they won thirty I don't know, was it thirty eight

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Speaker 1: to three or something, thirty eight seven, so it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirty one to seven, and I watched that game. It

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Speaker 1: was great, was great. You just can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you. Let's saddle up and start

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Speaker 1: this ride. It's just an absolute blast.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones. We go into Judy and Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What you got first, Judy, Yo.

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Speaker 9: I'm very happy with our roster right now. I think

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00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 9: it's pretty well set. And I called him and I

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Speaker 9: have said that our schedule is daunting.

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Speaker 10: To me.

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Speaker 9: There are at least four or five teams on our

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Speaker 9: schedule that had played us to the maximum and have

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Speaker 9: beaten us. So I'm beginning to wonder are we overlooking

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Speaker 9: the fact that we could have a very difficult time

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Speaker 9: this year, And in fact, in our own division, it

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Speaker 9: would not surprise me that we will not tweet it

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Speaker 9: this year. I think that any one of those teams

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Speaker 9: in our division may come up with an upset. So

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Speaker 9: I think the Bills have had better be very alert

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Speaker 9: to what is going on as far as their schedule

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Speaker 9: is concerned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's and I think they

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Speaker 2: are judy. I don't think Sean McDermott allows his team

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Speaker 2: to become complacent. And as we've seen over the years,

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Speaker 2: even when the Bills do drop a game, they've very

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Speaker 2: rarely drop back to back.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think in.

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Speaker 2: Each of the last four seasons they've only had one

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Speaker 2: set of back to back losses, and last year it

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Speaker 2: was Baltimore Houston Week four, Week five, and that was it.

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Speaker 2: They lost two more games the rest of the way

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Speaker 2: and previous seasons have unfolded similarly.

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Speaker 1: So even when they.

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Speaker 2: Do drop a game, Coach McDermot and his staff are

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Speaker 2: very good about course correction and getting the team back

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Speaker 2: to being detail oriented and a high level of execution.

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Speaker 2: But you're not wrong. You look at the caliber of opponents,

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Speaker 2: particularly for the home games, and you're thankful they're playing

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Speaker 2: at home where. Oh, by the way, they were ten

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Speaker 2: and o last year. I don't know that they're going

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Speaker 2: to be ten and o this year with the caliber

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Speaker 2: of opponents coming in here, you know, knowing you got Baltimore, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, Kansas City, Philly, all playoff teams last year.

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Speaker 1: So take it for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: I think what's going to be instrumental here is how

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Speaker 2: the schedule lays out. And even then, Steve, like I

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Speaker 2: remember a couple of years ago, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: this gauntlet. All look at this gauntlet of teams that

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Speaker 2: they've got to play. And then one team lost like

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Speaker 2: one of their best players. Another team had a three

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Speaker 2: game losing streak and we're coming in wounded. And then

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Speaker 2: another team, you know, wasn't playing up to caliber the

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Speaker 2: way they had been earlier in the year by the

652
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Speaker 2: time that Bill's faced them. So it's very much a

653
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: week to week league. But I'll be will be very interested.

654
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: A week from now we will find out how all

655
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: these opponents lay out and in what order, And I

656
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: think that will go a long way to the level

657
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: of confidence that you know, fans like Judy and others

658
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: have into how many wing wins they are going to

659
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: be able to string together this season.

660
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Speaker 1: They didn't sweep the division last year, right, It's hard

661
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL. Of course, you know,

662
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: it's hard to beat a team twice in the season.

663
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: But I would be I would agree with you. I'm

664
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Speaker 1: New England is the team that really catches my attention

665
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: this year. We're talking about the new you know, we're

666
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: going to talk with Mike Reese uh today number two,

667
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: the New England New England Patriots beat writer about their chances.

668
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: They've upgraded their head coach. In my opinion, they obviously

669
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: have upgraded their roster. With ten draft picks and one

670
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollars in free agency spent, They're

671
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: going to be a completely different organization coming into this

672
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: season than they were a year ago with Gerard Mayo's

673
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: head coach. So that's one team the Jets will have

674
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: a new vibe. And don't forget, it's not just about

675
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: the guys on the team, and we talk a lot

676
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: about the culture here in our building, Brownie. Don't forget

677
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: the Jets invited one hundred and seventy staff people to retire. Yeah,

678
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be a completely new Jets out franchise

679
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: coming into this season.

680
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: And they're coming from a deeper spot of irrelevance right

681
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: right still though, so the ground they have to cover

682
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: I think is notable. Same for the Patriots too, But

683
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: right as I was saying earlier, I think both of

684
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: those teams are going to be tougher outs. That's this season, and.

685
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna be They're gonna be different. They're not gonna

686
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: be It's not gonna be a predictable matchup in ways

687
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: that it has been in the past. So and that

688
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: coupled with the fact that they're playing another year of

689
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: a first place schedule. You know, so you got You've

690
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: got the Chiefs, you got the you know Baltimore, You've

691
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: got Cincy, you got Philly, you got these teams coming in.

692
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be rough. It is gonna be rough.

693
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: So Judy's right. I mean, if you're looking for, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: something to you know, not feel so old honky dorry about. Yeah,

695
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: the schedule is probably it. Although you look out people

696
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: are doing the analytics, they're saying the Bills have the

697
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: fifth easiest schedule in the league.

698
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how that.

699
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Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens. I think it's because

700
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: the Saints, Bucks, Bengals, Jets, Dolphins, Patriots kind of counterbalance

701
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Chiefs, Eagles, and Ravens and Steelers.

702
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Perhaps, man, their whole division was a tire fire last

703
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: year in terms of overall win loss record.

704
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Speaker 1: Right right, So that's the only thing. So I think

705
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a really tough schedule. Most of

706
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: the really good matchups are in Buffalo. I think we're

707
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: gonna do, you know, like today we're asking what you're

708
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: finishing touch on the on the ross on the roster

709
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: is for the Buffalo Bills. In the coming days, we're

710
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: gonna start talking about, you know, what are your what

711
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: you call for the schedule? How do you want the

712
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: home schedule to look like? That's we know, we all

713
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Speaker 1: know we.

714
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Speaker 2: Just we know the who.

715
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Speaker 1: We just don't know the way we all said. You know,

716
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: people make plans and the entire fall is centered around

717
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: traveling the Bills games or coming to Buffalo four game.

718
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: So I think that is I think Judy's right, that

719
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Speaker 1: is the remaining unknown and question mark for this offseason.

720
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Speaker 1: What are we gonna what's what are the matchups gonna

721
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: look like on a week week basis.

722
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Speaker 2: To go back to the phones and go to Walt

723
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: down in Charleston, what's up, Walt?

724
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Speaker 10: Hey, how you doing good? I think that Bills had

725
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 10: to really improve on their special teams. When's the last

726
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 10: time they blocked the punt or field goal? And what

727
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 10: was their rankings? Were they ever in the top five

728
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 10: the last four or five years?

729
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

730
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Speaker 2: They There was a deficient area for them, for sure, Walt.

731
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Speaker 2: To bring up a valid point, I think the biggest

732
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Speaker 2: improvement they made was in the coaching ranks, where they

733
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Speaker 2: hired Chris Taber as the new special teams coordinator, who,

734
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Speaker 2: for lack of a better terms, a deeply experienced coordinator

735
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Speaker 2: at the NFL level.

736
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Speaker 1: He was out of the league last.

737
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Speaker 2: Year but was basically doing his own research studies on

738
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Speaker 2: the new kickoff rule last year viewing it from a

739
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Speaker 2: league wide perspective, and you know, he comes in here

740
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Speaker 2: with proven experience, and I think for the first time,

741
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: I know, for the first time since twenty eighteen, the

742
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: Bills have a special teams coach with prior NFL coordinator

743
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Speaker 2: experience in that role in Chris Taber. You cannot say

744
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: that until they had Danny Crossman back in twenty eighteen.

745
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: They've had brand new, first time special teams coordinators in succession.

746
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Speaker 1: The one place where they did play very well last

747
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: year was in the return game. They were top five

748
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: punt return and a top three kickoff return.

749
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Speaker 2: Team, and that was largely Brandon Codrington.

750
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Speaker 1: That was, yeah, they had the right guy doing it.

751
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: The coverage, they were middle of the pack. Kickoff they

752
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: were top ten, and that was because of Tyler Bass

753
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: kicking a deep and then they give up that many attempts.

754
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Speaker 1: But they were middle of the pack on their punt

755
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Speaker 1: coverage to Waltz b point sixteen.

756
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Speaker 2: To Walt's point, though, it's been a while since I

757
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: think we've gone into games saying to ourselves, Ooh, I

758
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: wonder what the special teams unit has cooked up this

759
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: week to give the team an advantage. Yeah, they've just

760
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: been trying to hold the fort, it seems, the last

761
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Speaker 2: few years. And it'll be nice to know you have

762
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Speaker 2: a veteran special teams coordinator who has a lot of

763
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Speaker 2: familiarity with Leviska Chanalt, who we had in studio earlier

764
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Speaker 2: this week because they work together in Carolina for a

765
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: couple of years, so he knows what he is as

766
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Speaker 2: a return man, maybe even as a gunner, which is

767
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Speaker 2: something Leviska told us he has done before. So that's

768
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Speaker 2: a potential core special teamer added to the mix. Along

769
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Speaker 2: with Codrington. You still have Cam Lewis here who has

770
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Speaker 2: been a core special teamer and a gunner the last

771
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Speaker 2: several years. Specter Dorian Williams. I mean there are players

772
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Speaker 2: in the group. Who can they add to that mix

773
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: to make them even better? Is the question. And let's

774
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: not forget that you're to have a punting competition here

775
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: when we get to training.

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Speaker 1: Here, I will say, and you know, to Wolf's point

777
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: as well, it's harder nowadays to make a superlative play.

778
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: It's hard to block a punt, it's hard to block

779
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: a kit. Teams are so good at coaching that up

780
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: and making sure it doesn't happen. A team almost has

781
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: to have a mistake like a bad snap to have

782
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Speaker 1: something happen for him out.

783
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Speaker 2: But let's think about the last couple of years, Steve.

784
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills lose.

785
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: An early season game against the Steelers a couple of

786
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: years ago because of a blocked.

787
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: Kick, lost the opening game of the year against the

788
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: New York Jets, and Aaron Rodgers Achilles game with a

789
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Speaker 1: punt return.

790
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: Yep, they get a kick blocked in the playoff game

791
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: against the Steelers two years ago. It doesn't come back

792
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: to kill them, but it's blocked and the only time

793
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: that they have a.

794
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Costly penalty with twelve men on the field. It's their

795
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: last home loss to Denver. They allowed Denver to kick

796
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: it a second time. And let's not forget the end

797
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: of the Rams game last year where something happened and

798
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: Codrington did not get the memo that with eight seconds

799
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: left you have to field this punt or the clock

800
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: will run out and we won't get a snap on offense.

801
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: You have to field the ball, and he didn't. He

802
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: let it bounce in the end zone.

803
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: So there you go.

804
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: That stuff can't happen anymore.

805
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: The last time the Bills, you can say, Tyler passed

806
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: sixty one yard against Miami wins the game. The two

807
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: kickoff touchdown returns a few years ago after the Tomorrow

808
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: Hamblin game, when they came in, Yeah, nahim heinz two

809
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: kickoff returns and eight that wins the game for them.

810
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: They would not have won that game. We didn't realize.

811
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Speaker 1: In fact, the fact that they beat the Patriots by

812
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, ten or eleven points kind of masked how

813
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: shot that team was emotionally. We didn't find out until

814
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: the next week.

815
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Speaker 2: About where they in the playoffs, right, they were Styler

816
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: Thompson at quarterback, barely beat him.

817
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: And then they came in and of course against a

818
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: good team in Cincinnati, they got lumped up for the

819
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: final game of the season. Well that's when it really

820
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: showed up. They just couldn't hang in there. They were done.

821
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Speaker 1: So Yeah that that those two The nahem Hins game

822
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: against New England with a two touchdown on returns on

823
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: kickoffs was probably the as big a game for the

824
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Speaker 1: special teams as as we've had here.

825
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, got to take a break here when we come back.

826
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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls at eight oh three oh

827
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Speaker 2: five fifty. What is your finishing touch to the Bills

828
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: roster for this upcoming season? More of your calls next

829
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Speaker 2: year on one Bill's Live.

830
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Speaker 11: Stay with us.

831
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Speaker 2: All right back here on one of Bill's Live Chris

832
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker asking you for your finishing touch that

833
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: you would put on the Bills twenty twenty five roster

834
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Speaker 2: eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

835
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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. Back to the phones, we

836
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Speaker 2: go into Jim and Utica.

837
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Speaker 1: What's up, Jim Utch?

838
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Speaker 8: My question is about Justin Simmons.

839
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Speaker 10: Uh.

840
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 8: I feel like we really beefed up our defense lot

841
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 8: in the draft, and I think at our offenses. Obviously

842
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 8: you know less careers got no problem scoring stopping intense

843
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 8: of scoring is when needs to be, when needs to happen.

844
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Speaker 8: So one of that, you guys thought that Justin Simmons,

845
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 8: veteran safety, would be a good guy to get in

846
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 8: or if it's even impossible, I know our cast spaces

847
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 8: that led six million right now. I thought he would

848
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 8: be a good run of meete with the Taylor rep.

849
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Speaker 8: You got tomorrow and we got a cold bit up.

850
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Speaker 8: But I don't the guy to them. I mean especially

851
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 8: not Cole. You know, Les he made leaves and bounds

852
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 8: from last season. I don't see him being the big

853
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 8: playmaker back Gay that we necessarily need. So I just

854
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 8: want to know what you guys thought a run, whether

855
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 8: or not it's even a possibility in your minds. I'll

856
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 8: hang up with listen.

857
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: Thanks Jim.

858
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Simmons is still out there, the Veterans safety

859
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: thirty one years old. Last reports, and we mentioned this

860
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: on the show yesterday, was he would like to sign

861
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, whether the Eagles want him as another converse.

862
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: And beggars can't be choosers.

863
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: And look, the Bills have signed free agents in May

864
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: and June before, so I don't think you can rule

865
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: it out. But at the same time, I think you

866
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: might be selling Cold Bishop a little bit short. We

867
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: can't forget this guy was a second round pick. It's

868
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 2: not like they took a seventh round flyer on Cold

869
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Speaker 2: Bishop last year. They made a significant investment in that

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Speaker 2: player in the form of a second round draft choice,

871
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Speaker 2: and I think they want to bring him along and

872
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me at all if very early in

873
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Speaker 2: the spring he has lined up with the starting unit

874
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Speaker 2: opposite Taylor Rap and not DeMar Hamlet. As I said earlier,

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Speaker 2: he has a superior physical skill set to that of

876
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Speaker 2: DeMar Faster on the Stopwatch as well. I think Damar

877
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Speaker 2: has games played, experience and better knowledge of the system.

878
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Speaker 2: So how that all gets weighed out through the course

879
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Speaker 2: of the spring and training camp. I think they're hoping

880
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Speaker 2: the players will decide that for them based on their

881
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Speaker 2: consistency of play they did.

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Speaker 1: They've have Mega made a good faith effort to bring

883
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Speaker 1: competition in with Bishop and with Forest. You'd think that

884
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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna those four guys along with Rap

885
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Speaker 1: and Hamlin. Of course, those four guys are going to

886
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Speaker 1: be in the mix to start.

887
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Speaker 2: And we'll see if Hancock's part of the equation.

888
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Speaker 1: And Handcock as well, the corner who can play slot

889
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Speaker 1: and safety, we'll see. The one thing you could do,

890
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Speaker 1: you could bring in more competition for those guys. Yeah,

891
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Speaker 1: and if that's a guy like Justin Simmons, Okay, Brownie's

892
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Speaker 1: right thirty one, he gives me pause. And certainly if

893
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Speaker 1: his number's right, why wouldn't you right his number meaning

894
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Speaker 1: a salary? Of course, if you can fit him under

895
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Speaker 1: and still have room to do business. Yeah, bring the

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Speaker 1: guy in, kick the tires if he wants.

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Speaker 2: I think if you don't see a player like that

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Speaker 2: come in, it's indication to me that they believe Cole

899
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Speaker 2: Bishop is capable of taking another step in his development

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Speaker 2: and they don't want another veteran crowding the room and

901
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Speaker 2: perhaps stunting his growth by taking reps away from him

902
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Speaker 2: on the practice field. That's a consideration sometimes when they

903
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Speaker 2: believe in a young player and want him to grow faster,

904
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Speaker 2: you don't do that by bringing in a veteran and

905
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Speaker 2: keeping him off the field during practice time. You get

906
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Speaker 2: him as many reps as you can to get him

907
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Speaker 2: as good as he can be, as quickly as he

908
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Speaker 2: can be, as it can be accomplished. And that wouldn't

909
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Speaker 2: surprise me if that's what's at work here to some degree.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break. Our number two begins with

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Speaker 2: our good friend Mike Greece, ESPN Patriots Beat Reporter. We're

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Speaker 2: going to get the low down from him on the

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Speaker 2: off season that the Patriots have put together under new

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Speaker 2: head coach Mike Rabil. That coming your way next here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida of help. It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: This one Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, our number two on a Wednesday, and we've

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Speaker 2: talked ad nauseum about Buffalo's roster and all the additions

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Speaker 2: that have been made, changes that have been made, players, staff,

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Speaker 2: coaching staff, et cetera. But now it's time to start

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Speaker 2: taking a look around the a f c s to

923
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Speaker 2: see what Buffalo's most frequent competition is doing. And here

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Speaker 2: to help us do that. ESPNNFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike Grease,

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Speaker 2: friend of the show, joining us, and Mike, good to

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Speaker 2: have you as always, And I want to start right

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Speaker 2: off the rip with a with kind of an overarching question. Uh,

928
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Speaker 2: with all that the Patriots have done in terms of

929
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Speaker 2: spending free agency money and with what they've done in

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Speaker 2: the draft, who would you say if you had to

931
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Speaker 2: pick somebody has the greatest expectations individually? Is it Vrabel

932
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Speaker 2: himself or is it a player like a Harold Landry

933
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Speaker 2: or maybe even a draft choice like a Treveon Henderson

934
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Speaker 2: who has the greatest expectations to kind of lift this

935
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Speaker 2: team up from irrelevance.

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Speaker 12: Well, so, I mean, I think Mike Rabel's a really

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Speaker 12: good place to start. But how about Milton Williams, the

938
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Speaker 12: defensive tackle. When you sign a four year contract worth

939
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Speaker 12: one hundred four million dollars, which is the richest contract

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Speaker 12: given to a player in Patriots' history, this includes Tom Brady,

941
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Speaker 12: that that that probably leads to expectations that you know,

942
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Speaker 12: people expect great performance. And we saw Williams in the

943
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Speaker 12: Super Bowl playing for the Eagles, breakout performance.

944
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Speaker 13: Can he now take that to the next level.

945
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Speaker 12: Or is he sort of one of those players that

946
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Speaker 12: we've seen cash in based on a big Super Bowl

947
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Speaker 12: performance and then not be able to sort of meet

948
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Speaker 12: the expectation.

949
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna from a million miles away over here

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Speaker 1: in Western New York, we look at and see, you know,

951
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Speaker 1: the eleven draft picks of the Patriots had, what is

952
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Speaker 1: the buzz inside the building? And also what are the

953
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Speaker 1: Patriots fans? How do they how do they receive this

954
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Speaker 1: draft class?

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Speaker 12: So, Steve, buzz is actually a great word to describe

956
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Speaker 12: what's going on in the building. Mike Vrabel has asked

957
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Speaker 12: for energy. He wants to see players, you know, getting

958
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Speaker 12: after it, and he wants to see energy in the hallways.

959
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Speaker 12: So here's an example they're they're playing music in the hallways.

960
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Speaker 13: He wants it upbeat. And I think we all know

961
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Speaker 13: from the way Mike Rabel played.

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Speaker 12: When he was in his playing career fourteen years, went

963
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Speaker 12: in the three Super Bowls here in New England, and.

964
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Speaker 13: Just the way he carries himself, there's a presence there.

965
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Speaker 12: So start with that, and then you know, I think

966
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Speaker 12: from the draft class, the big discussion up here in

967
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Speaker 12: New England was with their first round pick Will Campbell,

968
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Speaker 12: the left tackle from LSU, and the whole question about

969
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Speaker 12: arm length. You know, at that position, how important is

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Speaker 12: it to have long arms. Will Campbell's arms actually measured

971
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Speaker 12: in shorter than the I guess what you'd say. The

972
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Speaker 12: standard for many teams is at thirty two and five

973
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Speaker 12: eighths at the combine and then.

974
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Speaker 13: Thirty three at his pro day at LSU.

975
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Speaker 12: So the hope is that Will Campbell can be left

976
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Speaker 12: tackle blindside protector of Drake May. But sort of hovering

977
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Speaker 12: over that is the question like how important is that

978
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Speaker 12: arm length?

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Speaker 13: Question?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha with the draft class, they kind of did the

981
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Speaker 2: opposite of what the Bills did, and we understand why

982
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Speaker 2: Bills needed defensive help. First five picks go defense for

983
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Patriots. First four picks go offense, and we understand why,

984
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Speaker 2: two of them being linemen, and then they kind of

985
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Speaker 2: mix and match the rest of the way. How did

986
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Speaker 2: you kind of see the draft in terms of catering

987
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Speaker 2: to the perceived positional needs that the Patriots.

988
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Speaker 12: Had, So, Chris, I looked at it like they're trying

989
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Speaker 12: to do right by Drake May. You have a young

990
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Speaker 12: quarterback and you want to surround him with infrastructure to

991
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Speaker 12: make his life easier. And this is a team that

992
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Speaker 12: last year was thirty first in the NFL in past

993
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Speaker 12: block win rate, and the year before that, before Drake

994
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Speaker 12: May was even here, they were last in the league

995
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Speaker 12: in pass block win rate. So secure the line of

996
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Speaker 12: scrimmage first, and then surround him with more weapons, you know,

997
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Speaker 12: as you sort of build out for the line of scrimmage.

998
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Speaker 12: And I think the thing that's intriguing for the Patriots

999
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Speaker 12: and where I see the arrow pointing up for them

1000
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Speaker 12: from what we've seen the last couple of years. Traveon Henderson,

1001
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 12: the running back out of Ohio State, the second round pick,

1002
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 12: fast lightning in the bottle, like he can catch a

1003
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Speaker 12: screen pass, the swing pass, go seventy yards on touch

1004
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Speaker 12: like we saw him doing college. And then their third

1005
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Speaker 12: round pick Kyle Williams, the receiver out of Washington State,

1006
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Speaker 12: sort of the same thing. Average seventeen point one yards

1007
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Speaker 12: to catch last season, and some of that's deep ball stuff,

1008
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Speaker 12: but some of it's also catch a shorter passing go

1009
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Speaker 12: so get some explosiveness for him as well. That's sort

1010
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Speaker 12: of how I viewed, you know, secure the line and

1011
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Speaker 12: add explosiveness, and it's all about building around Drake may What.

1012
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Speaker 1: Has Vrabel said about the guys who seemed to going

1013
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: to be carried over, you know, the core guys. If

1014
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Speaker 1: he was a if I know you, girod Mayo was there.

1015
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Speaker 1: Now Vrabel's in. But if Rabel had been the guy

1016
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Speaker 1: last year as well, who are the core guys that

1017
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Speaker 1: are carrying and over?

1018
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 12: So Steve what he said to a lot of the

1019
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Speaker 12: core guys get out of here, ye listen to this

1020
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 12: all right. David Andrews, a longtime captain, the center who

1021
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 12: is their longest tenured player from twenty fifteen, released at

1022
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Speaker 12: the start of free agency just last week. They're long

1023
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Speaker 12: snapper Joe Cardona, the other longest tenured player since twenty fifteen,

1024
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Speaker 12: he was released. They didn't re sign Jonathan Jones, the

1025
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Speaker 12: slot corner who was here since twenty sixteen. And they

1026
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Speaker 12: didn't re sign Dietrich Wise, the defensive lineman, who was

1027
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Speaker 12: here since twenty seventeen. So those were their four longest

1028
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Speaker 12: tenured players, and so right now their longest tenured players

1029
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Speaker 12: are from the twenty twenty draft, six year veterans Kyle Dugger,

1030
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Speaker 12: the safety, Anthony Jennings, the outside linebacker, Micah Wenu the

1031
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Speaker 12: offensive lineman. So really, Steve like Rabel's approach has been

1032
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 12: really out with the old, in with the new.

1033
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Speaker 13: I want my own guys.

1034
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 12: I want to establish my own culture, and I think

1035
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Speaker 12: some of that is performance based, but I do think

1036
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Speaker 12: some of that is culture based.

1037
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Speaker 2: I realize this crosses front office changes here, Mike, but

1038
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Speaker 2: for the third time in six drafts, the Patriots have

1039
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Speaker 2: drafted a kicker, which seems like a high rate at

1040
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: which to do that, even if it's even if they're

1041
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: all Day three picks, as kickers typically are. What is

1042
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: the plan with Bora Gallis? I mean, I know he

1043
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: was a highly touted kicker at Miami, has some fantastic statistics,

1044
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: a big leg I mean, is he going to have

1045
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: any competition whatsoever?

1046
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Speaker 13: So they will, They'll be a competition.

1047
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Speaker 12: But I think as you would expect Chris when you

1048
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Speaker 12: draft someone in the sixth round.

1049
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Speaker 13: I think it was one hundred and eighty second overall,

1050
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Speaker 13: so you.

1051
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Speaker 12: Know, that's closer to the top of the round if

1052
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Speaker 12: I have my sort of numbers, right, he's the favorite.

1053
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Speaker 12: Andy Booragalis the question, you know, being a Miami kid,

1054
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Speaker 12: growing up down there and kicking at Miami, how's that look?

1055
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Speaker 13: You know in New England? Is that even a big deal.

1056
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Speaker 13: That's some of the discussion up here.

1057
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Speaker 12: But they do have another kicker on the roster, John

1058
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Speaker 12: Parker Romo, who's kicked around a little bit on some

1059
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Speaker 12: practice squads the last few years and kicked a little

1060
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Speaker 12: bit for the Vikings when they needed an emergency kicker,

1061
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Speaker 12: and maybe twelve field goals you know, in games in

1062
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Speaker 12: his career, if I recall off the top of my head.

1063
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Speaker 12: So we'll be charting the field goals in a competition,

1064
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Speaker 12: you know, throughout the spring and into training camp. But

1065
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Speaker 12: I would expect Boragalis and you know, to get the

1066
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Speaker 12: job unless it really goes off the tracks.

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Speaker 1: How many of the eleven picks in their draft, you

1068
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Speaker 1: think make the roster.

1069
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Speaker 12: So so let's Steve, I'm just off the top of

1070
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Speaker 12: my head, I'd probably put the first six rounds up

1071
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Speaker 12: to the kicker on there. So that leaves me with

1072
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Speaker 12: really after that, just just two or three, you know, so.

1073
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Speaker 13: I'd say eight eight make it.

1074
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Speaker 12: And then they signed seventeen undrafted free agents. So if

1075
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Speaker 12: you talk about eight draft picks on the roster, if

1076
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Speaker 12: I'm projecting it, and then maybe one or two undrafted

1077
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Speaker 12: guys you know, flash and sneak on, that's ten.

1078
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Speaker 13: That's a young, young team.

1079
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Speaker 12: Sort of what we're talking about Mike Rabol going young

1080
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Speaker 12: and really turning the page here.

1081
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of those lady picks was a long

1082
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Speaker 2: snapper who with Cardona Gone, I mean, you could have

1083
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: a rookie kicker, a rookie long snapper, and Behinger was

1084
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: only drafted two or three years ago himself, the punter.

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 13: That's right, And so this actually interesting story.

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00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 12: The first long snapper drafted in the NFL since twenty

1087
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 12: twenty one, and he was the two hundred and fifty

1088
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 12: first pick Chris and the draft two hundred fifty seven pick,

1089
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 12: So it's right.

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Speaker 13: At the end.

1091
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 12: But Julian Ashby of Vanderbilt did nine or ten private

1092
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 12: workouts with teams, and he actually took a pre draft

1093
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 12: visit to the Chicago Bears. So he was he was

1094
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 12: very I don't know if we can say sought after,

1095
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 12: but highly scouted in terms of teams making the investment

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 12: to go see him. And so I think the Patriots

1097
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 12: got to that point where they had made nine draft

1098
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 12: picks at that point they said, do we want to

1099
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 12: compete with other teams to try to sign him as

1100
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 12: an undrafted free agent or do we use one of

1101
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 12: our draft picks on him. And he's the only snapper

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01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 12: on the roster, so I mean, again, similar to the kicker,

1103
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 12: unless that goes off the tracks, I would expect.

1104
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Speaker 13: Him to be the snapper.

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Speaker 2: Huh, that's wild. What do you think is the anticipated

1106
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: bar one loss wise amongst the fan base? Obviously, you

1107
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: know verybel wants to win in as many games as

1108
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: he can. They want to turn it around, they want

1109
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: to be on the right side of five hundred. But

1110
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: what is the realistic bar that you kind of sense

1111
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: from the fan base in terms of what expectations are

1112
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: this year?

1113
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: Year one under Vrabel so.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if you guys do this, but sometimes

1115
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 12: do you ever go through the bills opponents and just

1116
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 12: sort of yeah, even though we know, you know, we

1117
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 12: all do this, right, I mean, it's fun, it's fun

1118
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 12: to do. So I was actually at a speaking engagement

1119
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 12: this weekend and we did it, and I come up

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Speaker 12: with a I come up with eight or nine wins myself,

1121
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 12: because I think their schedule this year is more favorable

1122
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 12: than it than it was last year as an example,

1123
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 12: So for the fans, I mean they are talking about, like, hey,

1124
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 12: could this team possibly sneak into the playoffs? Like that

1125
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 12: is not I don't want to say that's the dominant

1126
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 12: topic of discussion when you turn on sports radio, but

1127
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 12: some people feel like with Rabel coming in as coach

1128
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 12: and Drake May in his second year, Josh McDaniel's back

1129
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 12: as offensive coordinator, the schedule that I referenced, that maybe

1130
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 12: there's a chance to turn this thing around. I think

1131
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 12: the the win loss number, and I don't know how

1132
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 12: much we want to look at like betting trends, I

1133
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 12: want to say seven and a half is sort of

1134
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 12: the number that if you were into that type of

1135
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 12: thing and you were trying to make an odds guess,

1136
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 12: you know over under that's the number, that's seven and

1137
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 12: a half is sort of the target right now.

1138
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Over the last few years, and particularly you know, I'll

1139
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: be all the way back to Bill Belichick and his time,

1140
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: they rarely even last year the Patriots seemed to play

1141
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: better defensively. What are they going to hang their hats

1142
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: on defensively this year? What's that going to look like

1143
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. I know Josh McDaniel

1144
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: will bring a wealth of him of knowledge and coaching

1145
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: experience to the offensive side. What about the defense, So, Steve.

1146
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 12: This is going to look a lot different than the

1147
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 12: Patriots defense you've seen over the last twenty four to

1148
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 12: twenty five years, because really even last year under Gerrodmeyo,

1149
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 12: they kept the Bill Belichick's system, which is, you know,

1150
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 12: the bigger defensive tackles, the bigger linebacker who played downhill,

1151
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 12: and they're two gapping more upfront, and Mike Rabel has

1152
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 12: said defensively, they want to play on the other side

1153
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 12: of the line of scrimmage.

1154
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 13: They want to get after it.

1155
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 12: So defensively last year they were last in the league

1156
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 12: in twenty eight with twenty eight sacks. I'd be shocked,

1157
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 12: you know, with this change in style if they're last

1158
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 12: in the league with twenty eight sacks.

1159
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 13: So they want to be more aggressive.

1160
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 12: Milton Williams as a signing is probably a good example

1161
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 12: of that. I'm not sure how well he would have

1162
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 12: fit in their old scheme, but with what Rabel wants

1163
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 12: to do, get up the field, pair him with Christian

1164
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 12: Barmore at defensive tackle. Barmore coming back from being diagnosed

1165
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 12: with blood clots last year which limited him the four games.

1166
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 12: They feel like inside they can have a dynamic one

1167
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 12: two combination, and then on the outside with Christian Gonzales

1168
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 12: at one corner and Carlton Davis who they signed as

1169
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 12: a veteran free agent on the other corner, they feel

1170
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 12: like they might be able to play with Rabel Jokes's.

1171
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 13: Cat cut Bridge. You get that cat, I get this cat,

1172
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 13: and let's go.

1173
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 12: So those are a few building blocks you know that

1174
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 12: they have there and part of the reason I think

1175
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 12: fans feel like the arrows pointing up here in New England.

1176
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, Well, thanks for the input.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch up with you, you know, a little bit

1178
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: closer to the season, but thanks for bringing us up

1179
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: to speed on the offseason the Patriots have had to

1180
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: this point.

1181
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

1182
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 12: Definitely, always great being on with you guys. Have a

1183
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 12: great rest of the show.

1184
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike.

1185
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: That's ESPN NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike Grease always does

1186
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: a bang up job covering that team, and you know, Steve,

1187
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: he's right. You look at the Patriots list of twenty

1188
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: twenty five opponents home and away.

1189
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Speaker 3: Their toughest home game will be the Bills. Because here

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01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: are their other home opponents.

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Home games for the Patriots this year

1192
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: The Bills, Browns, Dolphins, Falcons, Giants, Jets, Panthers, Steelers, Raiders.

1193
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: Those are the home opponents. The Bills are the toughest

1194
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: game there and it's not even close. Yeah, now away

1195
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: is a little more difficult. Bengals, Bills, Bucks, Dolphins, Jets, Saints, Ravens, Titans.

1196
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: So Bills, Bengals, Ravens, and the Buck. I'll put the

1197
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Speaker 3: Bucks in there. They were playoff team. Those are their

1198
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 3: tough road game.

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Speaker 2: But the home schedule, that's a joke.

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: Can think about Vrabel taking the Patriots down to play

1201
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 1: the Titans, where he was head coached for so long. Yeah,

1202
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: there'll be a little bit of a little for that one,

1203
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of buzz for that one.

1204
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: I think that that might even find its way on

1205
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: a Thursday.

1206
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Is it a Monday night game? Maybe?

1207
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: Oh, if it's Monday night, I mean talking about football

1208
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: last year.

1209
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think Monday night football might be just

1210
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: enough because it's not Sunday Night football Thursday nights. I

1211
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: think is because it kicks off the weekend. I don't know.

1212
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: I think Monday night's kind of the the bottom tier

1213
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: of the of the primetime games. Yeah, aren't you.

1214
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah schedule.

1215
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: My question is but my thing is yes, that's uh,

1216
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: that is the.

1217
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: Only and that's and that's why you and I when

1218
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: we talked on this show, and you know, we got

1219
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: nay segers that less so now, but even last year

1220
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: we were getting, you know, naysayers about McDermott and you

1221
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: know how they run things here. It's like, dude, five

1222
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: straight division titles, playing a first place schedule for four

1223
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: of those five years, Like that's not nothing.

1224
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 3: And proof of that is looking at this Patriots last

1225
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: place schedule, their home schedule compared to ours, it's night

1226
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: and day.

1227
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, night and day.

1228
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: That's right, And it does make a difference. Now all

1229
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: those teams are gonna be a little different as well.

1230
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: The bad teams are gonna get a little better. The

1231
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: good teams aren't gonna be quite as good. But some teams,

1232
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at them, they just don't

1233
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: look any better now than they did. The Patriots do

1234
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: look better. We've talked about it all often. That is

1235
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: the team in the AFC East that's gonna be there

1236
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: with the Bills.

1237
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: Might make the biggest jump from last year to right.

1238
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: So, but nevertheless, you know they're coming from there. They're

1239
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna be playing the play the Raiders, they play the Giants.

1240
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: Those teams are not significantly better.

1241
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: Panthers, Browns, Falcons, I mean, good grief, Raiders, I mean yeah,

1242
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: new coach for Pete Carroll with the Raiders. New quarterback

1243
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: for the Giants, new quarterback for the Raiders. We don't

1244
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: know the quarterback for the Steelers. I mean, my god, right,

1245
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: the Browns. Who's playing quarterback there?

1246
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: Like seriously, yeah, there's four guys on that team. There's

1247
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks, yeah, well five technically five. One of them

1248
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: has been asked to stay away, but.

1249
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: They won't be healthy anyway.

1250
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Gabriel the third round pick, and

1251
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: Shadu or Sanders the fifth round pick. That's that's a yeah,

1252
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: it's a crusher. So yeah, we don't know exactly how

1253
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: all these teams are gonna play, but our experience in

1254
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: the league tells us some of these schedules are just

1255
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: more tough than the others. The Bills have a really

1256
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: rough and tumble schedule, particularly the home schedule. The Patriots

1257
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: they ain't playing anybody.

1258
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Not at home, and they got Bengals, Bills, Bucks, and

1259
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: Ravens on the road.

1260
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: Those are tough, but their home schedule is whew, it's

1261
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: almost a cakewalk. Let's get back to the phones, though.

1262
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: At eight h three zero five point fifty one eighty

1263
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to jump

1264
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: on board as we are asking you, what is your

1265
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: finishing touch to put on the Bills twenty twenty five

1266
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: roster to have them loaded for bear this fall back

1267
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: to the phones we go and to Tom on the

1268
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: west side.

1269
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 5: What's up Tom, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I thought that was

1270
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 5: a very interesting conversation. With right there, and I'm gonna

1271
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 5: call it. I'm gonna say the Bills are gonna be

1272
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 5: number one, Miami's gonna be number two. New England's gonna

1273
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 5: be number three, and the Jets are gonna be number four.

1274
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 5: They're not gonna New England's not gonna jump up that

1275
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 5: high yet. I don't know if they can get ahead

1276
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 5: of Miami. But I started out thinking about your question,

1277
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 5: and I was thinking safety two and Simmons. He's an

1278
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 5: interesting prospect, but like you guys said, you got to

1279
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 5: kick his tires and see what he has left. But

1280
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 5: then I thought about, well, what about the linebacker, And

1281
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 5: we don't have a big bodied linebacker in there that

1282
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,919
Speaker 5: yet that the offenses are gonna be scared to run against.

1283
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 5: Because if you got a big body on one side,

1284
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 5: even if you have floated defensive end back there and

1285
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 5: have him play linebacker, then your steam in it and

1286
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 5: they're not looking at it at the beginning of the play.

1287
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 5: So you want them, you want to draw them to

1288
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 5: one side of the field of the other. So without

1289
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 5: a big body linebacker in there, I don't know how

1290
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 5: you're gonna do that.

1291
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand what you're saying Tom, and

1292
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: I would argue linebacker from a depth perspective, if you

1293
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: want to get a proven veteran to being in a

1294
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: backup role, you know, so in the event of injury,

1295
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: you know, let's say God forbid, you get two guys

1296
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Speaker 2: go down, and you're down to one of your top three,

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Speaker 2: that being Bernard Milano and Williams. You know you're gonna

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Speaker 2: want to have a veteran in there kind of calling

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Speaker 2: the shots. So from that perspective, I would understand even

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Speaker 2: though you have Bail Inspector on the roster now has.

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Speaker 1: Been here for four years.

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Speaker 2: And but yeah, I mean Yulafotio is a draft pick

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Speaker 2: last year Andresad an undrafted guy that makes the roster

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Speaker 2: this year. It's hard to argue that those guys are

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Speaker 2: proven players in any capacity. But as far as getting

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Speaker 2: a big bodied player, I just don't think that fits

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Speaker 2: the scheme. You only have two linebackers on the field

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Speaker 2: most of the time anyway, and part of the reason

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Speaker 2: they got so big and beefy up front was to

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Speaker 2: keep those linebackers clean so they can run and hit

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Speaker 2: or in many cases, run and cover.

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Speaker 1: Right, they're linebacking roster is Dorian Williams, edufon of Ulafohio

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: Baile Inspector, Matt Mulano, Terrell Bernard, Joe Andresen. And then

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Speaker 1: if you if you go to the reported udfas the

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agents.

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Speaker 2: Keanta Jenkins from Virginia Tech is expected there in here

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Speaker 2: and he's a hybrid player because he only goes about

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifteen pounds, and I'm anticipating that he's

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Speaker 2: going to be in the mix to be the third

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Speaker 2: safety for the dime package.

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Speaker 1: Roll. I get it that some people want the Bills

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Speaker 1: to be different than everybody else, but the trend in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is who get bigger upfront like the Bills

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Speaker 1: did in the draft, and keep your linebackers with the

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Speaker 1: ability to run and cover. So your defensive lineman, you've

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Speaker 1: got two guys on the defensive line at playing defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle who buy their skills or by their very build,

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Speaker 1: demand two offensive linemen. Right in the run game especially,

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Speaker 1: is what we're talking about, right, You're talking about stopping

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Speaker 1: the run with big linebackers. Well, most teams will say, now,

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Speaker 1: just give me two big defensive tackles or three or whatever,

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Speaker 1: so that the offensive lineman got a double team them

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Speaker 1: in order to move them out of the way, and

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Speaker 1: then your linebackers you can play them however you want

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Speaker 1: because they can run and run and hit because there's

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Speaker 1: not going to be enough offensive linemen because of the

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Speaker 1: double teams. The offensive linemen aren't going to be able

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Speaker 1: to get to the second level to lay those blocks

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Speaker 1: on the linebackers. So that's what most NFL teams do

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Speaker 1: that it gives you the flexibility behind that defensive line

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: to keep your linebackers small enough to back out of

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Speaker 1: there and cover a ti to carry a tight end

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Speaker 1: down the middle of the field, or get back into

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Speaker 1: the throwing lanes of a crossing route. So that's how

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Speaker 1: most teams in the NFL at this point in history

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Speaker 1: are evolving into because it's become such a throwing league.

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Speaker 1: You can make it a case now even with the Buffalo,

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: that the pendulum is starting to ease back the other

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Speaker 1: way right. Bills are fifty to fifty run pass now.

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Speaker 1: They can do that because they've got a really good

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: offensive line and some and a great quarterback. And you know,

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 1: teams are are hesitant to go all in to stop

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: the Bills running game because of Josh and these and

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: the dudes the skill set. You know, they don't want

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: to give up passing yards, so they'll say, okay, we

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: just don't think you're going to run enough to beat us.

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Speaker 1: Bills were willing to do it, so they were taking

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01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: they were they had them MVP handing the ball off.

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Speaker 1: That's tough to defend. That's really tough to defend.

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Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back. Jordan and Wilmington

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Speaker 2: gonna lead us off, followed by Gary on a cell.

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Speaker 2: So if you're holding at eight O three oh five fifty,

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Speaker 2: stay right where we are. We'll get to you when

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Speaker 2: we return. Here on One Bills Live, presented by Colida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and asking

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Speaker 2: you to put your finishing touch. What is your finishing

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: touch for the Bills twenty twenty five roster eight O

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eighty eighty five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five point fifty to the phones and to Jordan

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Speaker 2: down in Wilmington, what do you got for us?

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Speaker 14: Jordan, Well, you can't talk about the player until you

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 14: talk about the GM who got him. And I think

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Speaker 14: it started at the draft and it's gonna end up

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 14: being a scheme thing with being and Bobby Babbitch. But

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Speaker 14: I think they have to find a Josh Allen.

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 4: For the defense.

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Speaker 15: They have to find someone who's invincible, who can take

1380
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 15: on a whole season, who's the alpha male that doesn't

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 15: get injured. I'm thinking Jackson is that guy. He can

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 15: be that guy. He reminds me of TV. I also

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 15: think we need a good safety tandem. And the next

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 15: thing I was thinking was that call from Bill from

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 15: Lakwana earlier about Dalton Kin, Kay, you need to add

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 15: some size. I think that's what we need to We

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 15: need him to show some great show, show us that

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 15: he can block and just you know, catch the ball.

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 15: I think he've got the hands. Everyone's talking about the

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 15: hand thing, but I think he'll be fine the season.

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 15: But again with Dalton Kin kid, if he can gain

1392
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Speaker 15: some math. We saw the pitcher. Everyone's talking about thigh guy.

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 15: You know he's making his rounds on this post. But

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 15: what do y'all think about daldkon K gaining that serious weight,

1395
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 15: becoming that elf a dog that we need. And then also,

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Speaker 15: what do you think about having a Josh Allen on defense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to do the tight end thing first.

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01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: Sure, if they if they think Kinkaid needs to change

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: his body type a little bit or some or maybe

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot, Okay, I'll listen to it. There is they

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: don't just decide that they've got data to back it up.

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: And if they can sell Kincaid on doing it, I'm

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01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: sure he's going to make every effort to do it.

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01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: I would love I would love to see Kinkaid and

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: Coleman emerge to that. There's a couple of hot you know,

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: cole both two second round picks, technically second round picks.

1407
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: Coleman was the first pick the Bills had in the

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: draft they traded back twice famously, and Kincaid was a

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: second round pick. You need something from those guys, I.

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01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: Think, well, Kakay was a first round pick.

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Oh that's right, Okay, Kinkaid was a first

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: round pick. I think those two guys need to step up,

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see something more from him.

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01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: You know, who knows what opportunities they're gonna get, who

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: knows where they're going to be you know, more of

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: just one of the guys that eat amongst all the

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: guys that eat. Okay, but I would love to see

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: those guys earn more reps, more targets, more number one

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: reads that kind of thing. Yeah, but it's gonna and

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: whatever that takes. Yeah, but I think it's in there

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: for both of them, and Kincaid certainly needs to stay

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: healthy to do that. And if the team feels like

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: changing his body type will do that, hey, you got

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01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: to try it.

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Speaker 3: I think they they made no bones about the fact

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Speaker 3: that they felt he had to be stronger.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's for durability more than anything else.

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: So if he needs to add five to eight pounds

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01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: a lean muscle mass to be more durable, there is

1431
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: sports science to back that up. And we'll find out

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Speaker 2: soon enough, you know, with OTAs next week and some

1433
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: media availability as to whether he has in fact done that. Yeah,

1434
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: we'll have to wait and see. And then to your

1435
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: question about you know, some kind of alpha male on

1436
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, I respect it because

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01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 2: when you have one, everybody's energized and is ready to

1438
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: follow that player. That's very I know you're high on

1439
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: land and Jackson, So am I that's a lot to

1440
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: put on a rookie's plate to ask him to lead

1441
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: a defense in that way. I'm not debating that Jackson

1442
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 2: couldn't mature into something like that, but year one, I

1443
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: think that's a lot to ask. Not for nothing. When

1444
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 2: he's on the phone getting the call from the Bills,

1445
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: he told him they got a bleeping dog. So we

1446
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: shall see. But he is football through and through. I

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01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: mean he's basically he said it on his conference call

1448
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: after the Bills drafted him. I focus on football and

1449
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: coming home to my wife and dog after the day's over,

1450
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: and that's really all he does. So you're gonna get

1451
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: a guy who is wholly committed to the game and

1452
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: his craft. What that translates to on the field, we

1453
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: have to wait and see. But I think he is

1454
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: going to be a noticeable addition to the defensive side

1455
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right, though, I mean yeah, I mean

1457
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: he got an MVP of the League on offense.

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01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to match that on de Yeah.

1459
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: It's hard to find a guy. I mean, you're talking

1460
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: about a Lawrence Taylor type of player. Now, I will

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01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: say that's what let's face. That's what josh. He's an

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01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: all timer. Yeah, and so it's a big ask at

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: this point of the offseason, of any offseason.

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Speaker 2: I will say from a leadership standpoint, Bernard is pretty

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: good in that role because if you look on the

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01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: sidelines when he's huddling them up before they take the feet,

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01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: you know, after a special team's play, all eyes are

1468
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 2: on that dude. They he is listened to and followed

1469
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: because he knows his stuff.

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Speaker 1: One of the things about Bernard that sets him apart

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Speaker 1: is his knowledge his film study instincts. Yeah, these guys

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01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: study so much film and then they get they also

1473
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: have an intuitive quality about them that allows him to

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: see it before it happens. And if they're that good,

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: they communicate it before it happens, and guys learn that

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: the guy really does know his stuff. You know what

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not just like this play, you know,

1478
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: the play in the Baltimore game where he knocks it

1479
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: out of it Andrew's hands. It's all the stuff between

1480
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: those plays where he talks to guys and tells them

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: to look out for something and then again, sure enough

1482
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: it happens. There are guys like that out there. And

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01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Bernard seems to be one of those. And that's you know,

1484
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: forget about how he plays his ability to know that

1485
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: stuff really really raises his level of respect in the

1486
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: locker room.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Gary on to sell next.

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: What's up? Gary?

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Speaker 4: Hey, can you guys hear me? Okay, yeah, go ahead,

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01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 4: appreciate everything, guys.

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Speaker 16: Do my comment, and then I'll let you guys talk

1492
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,520
Speaker 16: about a little bit would be a little tweaked potentially.

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 16: We all hope Josh as the MVP and one of

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 16: the top quarterbacks, doesn't get hurt. But as we all know,

1495
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 16: hope is kind of a weak strategy. So do you

1496
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 16: think we're capable enough You're always going to take a

1497
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 16: drop down from Josh to a backup? We all know that.

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01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 4: But do we have a.

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01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 16: Little potential to have someone that could come in and

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01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 16: maybe for a couple of games if John gets tweaked

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 16: up a little bit, that he can step in and

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 16: maybe not win the games, but also not lose the

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01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 16: games and have some steady eddies Or do we feel

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01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 16: that we have the backups that can do that and

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 16: prove themselves over the preseason. So appreciate everything you do.

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Speaker 16: God bless go Bills and I'm looking forward to your comments.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Gerry for the call. I mean, there's

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks on the roster. For those that don't know,

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: Shane bouschell who served kind of as the third quarterback

1510
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: but got hurt in the final preseason game last summer

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01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: and was pretty much on ir the whole season because

1512
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: of the injuries. Sustained running behind a third string ole

1513
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: line for his life. And then you had Trubisky as

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01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: the backup. They signed Mike White to the practice squad

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01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: halfway through the season and then sign him to a

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01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: new contract before the year's over, so you've got Trubisky, White,

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01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: and Bouschelle behind Josh. I think Trubisky's greatest asset is

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01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: the way in which he is able to help Josh

1519
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:38,879
Speaker 2: prepare for games and give a really really good scout

1520
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: team look to the first team defense during the week

1521
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: in preparation for the next week's opponent. I would say

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Mike White's biggest asset is his physical skill set, and

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01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: I would say he is the most talented of the

1524
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: three quarterbacks behind Allen from a performance standpoint. And then

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Bouschelle is just kind of your insurance plan. You know

1526
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: in case of emergency break lass type of deal. So

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: the question becomes, Steve, I think going into this season,

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01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,879
Speaker 2: is it more important in the eyes of this coaching

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: staff to have a backup quarterback who is less of

1530
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: a drop off skill set wise on the field to

1531
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: Josh in the event of an injury knock on Wood

1532
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 2: Or is it more important to have a backup quarterback

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 2: who can help Josh prepare for every opponent every single week.

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: And that's the rub here because the last handful of

1535
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: years they've only carried two quarterbacks on the active ross.

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not how many are on the roster, it's

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: how many are in the room. So have you got

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 1: Bouchelle and Mike White in the room with Mitch Trubisky?

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: Who cares who's backing up Josh on Sunday? To be really,

1540
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: let's be real, how do they get him ready to play?

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: If Mitch Trubisky he is a magic ingredient because Josh

1542
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: and Trubisky have a good relationship and Trubisky's got his ear.

1543
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: Trubisky can be in street clothes on the sideline still

1544
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: have his ear, you see, and Mike White could be

1545
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: the guy to go in for him to play if

1546
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Josh goes down, so Trubisky could still be part of

1547
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: the mix and be Josh's voice, you know, in the

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01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: coaching room and all of that, and you know, bounce

1549
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: ideas off, all the stuff that goes with that. Well,

1550
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: if that's it, but you needed, but he's not the

1551
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: guy they're gonna put in if if Josh is down,

1552
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: And really, this face it. I told I've said it

1553
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: since the beginning. The quarterback room is about getting Josh

1554
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: ready to play, not about being ready to go in

1555
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: for him if he gets hurt. You don't who cares.

1556
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: You want to get your number one guy ready to play.

1557
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: You don't get three guys half ready to play or

1558
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: a third ready to play.

1559
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Right, But under the scenario you described, it would be

1560
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: hard to justify if Mike White is your play to

1561
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: replace him on the field because of his skill set

1562
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: being superior, and Trubisky is the player that best helps

1563
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: Josh get ready for opponents. To me, that's that means

1564
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Trubisky's on the practice squad and White is your backup

1565
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: quarterback on the fifty three man roster. That's fine based

1566
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: on the job description you laid out, like logic, would

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01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: say White is a backup on the fifty three and Trubisky,

1568
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 2: if he's willing to accept it, right, is your practice

1569
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: squad quarterback. And I don't know if he's willing to

1570
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: accept that, knowing that he's got two and a half

1571
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: million dollars on the line as a rostered player, Right,

1572
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get it, But that's you know you're

1574
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: talking put him on the roster just for that. It

1575
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Three quarterbacks he's got. Well, but sit Mike

1576
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: White down and then you can flip it the next week.

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01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: If you want Mike White to play, just get out

1578
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: of the game with Trubisky. If he goes down. You're

1579
01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: talking about one point one percent of the cap with Tribisky,

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: you make it three point two. That's not the issue.

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01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: No, it's not the money. It's no, it's not the money.

1582
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Just you get if it's can.

1583
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: You afford to have a third quarterback on the roster

1584
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: with what you'd sacrifice at another position?

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: That's the question. Yeah, I get it. But here's the

1586
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna have. If these four guys are going

1587
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: to be in the building some way, shape or form,

1588
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: just go into the game knowing that if something HAPs

1589
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: to Josh, she's got to get out of the game,

1590
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: and then you can shuffle those guys around after the

1591
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: fact for the next game if Josh can't get back in.

1592
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 2: I just know that the Bills paid Mike White a

1593
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: lot of money to be on their practice squad last

1594
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: year and then rewarded him accepting that role by signing

1595
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: him to a new contract. Now, granted, he's not breaking

1596
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: the bank with that either.

1597
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: But is how willing is he to accept another practice

1598
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 3: squad designation is the thing that I'm wondering about here too.

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's true. There's stuff to sort out there.

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01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money easy And here's what it

1601
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: comes down to, folks. So if you're on their active roster,

1602
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you get a game check, you get one seventeenth of

1603
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: a three point two million dollar cont Do the math.

1604
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: It's two hundred thousand dollars in your pocket for a week.

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01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of money, and that it

1606
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: does make when you're down the roster and NFL team,

1607
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: that kind of makes a difference. But when you when

1608
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: the roster comes out, I mean, particularly for a guy

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: like Mitch Trubisky, and a guy like Mike White. You

1610
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: know this is in the cards. You know it, so

1611
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: to come out and start. They're not gonna They're not

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01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: gonna make waves because they'll get kicked to the curb

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01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat if they start being that problem child.

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01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Break time here, final segment coming your way next here

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 11: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: The final thoughts on this twitch here for our topic

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Speaker 2: of discussion, which is what would be your finishing touch

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Speaker 2: to four wide receiver and a safety we need to

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Speaker 2: upgrade its safety. Well, they already have the sub four

1624
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: to four wide out that's Elijah Moore. You want to

1625
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 2: add it safety. You can make an argument for that.

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01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: We've discussed it at length. Connor says, for me, it's

1627
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: a veteran linebacker. I love the Bill's linebacker room, but

1628
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: I think it's potentially time to move on from Spector.

1629
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: He can't stay healthy and that concerns me. Milano in

1630
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: the last year of his contract, and I would assume

1631
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Williams is his likely heir apparent, veteran linebacker for depth.

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01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I do like that sentiment. I think there's merit to

1633
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: that sentiment. Greg says, trade either a defensive or offensive

1634
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 2: lineman for an early fifth rounder next year, then after camp,

1635
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: use a draft pick to upgrade the weakest link. Who

1636
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: will it be? I am not sure. Yeah, I mean

1637
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: we've talked about it.

1638
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: Steve.

1639
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: There's probably going to come a point in time when

1640
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: you get to roster cutdown time where they're players are

1641
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: gonna have to lop off this roster who could start

1642
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: somewhere else. You should trade those players, right.

1643
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Get some Care's the way to maximize your roster and

1644
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: your budget and your assets both in.

1645
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: The draft and your roster strength for long term.

1646
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

1647
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: And then Mike says, honestly, I'm good with the roster.

1648
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 2: Let's freaking go. Steve uncovered an interesting development concerning training

1649
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: camp and the La Rams.

1650
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams are gonna have their mini camp in Maui.

1651
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Good grief, they're flying to Maui.

1652
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. We're not quite that fortunate. That's why we'll

1653
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: see you right here tomorrow.

1654
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 1: At once,