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Speaker 1: Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. The

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Speaker 3: year is coming to a close. We're in the backyard,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Goodbye, another perfect year on Earth, flawless.

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Speaker 3: I'm one episode behind on Real Housewives of Solaic City.

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Speaker 3: I can feel my life just spinning further and further

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Speaker 3: out of control. Oh, let's get into the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 3: just thrilled to talk to today's guest because well, we'll

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Speaker 3: get into it. It's Emily Altman. Hi, Emily, Welcome to.

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Speaker 3: I said, no case.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I'm so excited to be here and

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Speaker 2: to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: People have been telling me, no exaggeration, for seven years, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that I need to meet you, or saying, oh, you

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: It's the same on my side, and also that like

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Speaker 2: oh you you go. You guys love each other, so

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to find out what other people

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Speaker 2: Do you have a cat current my beloved fun way

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Speaker 2: So that's when you start to think, like it's not

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Speaker 3: He's like a like a seventy year old man dying.

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Speaker 3: I would say, yes, exactly fine, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: What was his name? Lionelton to Roney, Oh, that's a

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Speaker 3: I feel like long cat names quickly become almost a

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Speaker 3: I oh, my cat situation. I don't currently have a cat.

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Speaker 2: No, and when people train their cats to use the toilet.

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw it then and I was like, oh my,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, drive cars, make breakfast.

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Speaker 2: But I kind of like want a cat space right now,

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Speaker 3: Oh that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I should do that

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Speaker 2: And sometimes they name them the same thing we've heard

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Speaker 2: I do absolutely well. The dog breed is called the

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Speaker 2: Klee Kai. Oh have you heard of it?

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Speaker 2: Now, have you watched the Showtime docuseries Couples Therapy?

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Speaker 2: It looks like a not I wouldn't say toy husky

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the one I have my eye. Clee ki

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Speaker 3: Now are you someone who will go buy a dog

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Speaker 2: I have looked at both with them. I obviously we're

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Speaker 2: not going puppy mall. We know that. What a shame.

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Speaker 3: This is a very pro puppet I have two puppy mills.

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Speaker 2: Oh you do.

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Speaker 3: I'm a breeder. Let's just be honest.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hear you. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: early stages of planning. I there are for a lot

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Speaker 2: of the dogs that I like, there are specific rescues

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Speaker 2: Yes, so that's mostly what I do. And then I also,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people who watch multiple franchises at once, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yes, It's almost as if when I watch one franchise,

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Speaker 3: And do you watch any other reality shows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, I love Love is Blind. I've never

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Speaker 3: Is this the Netflix one where they're just like in

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're in a pod and then they go on

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Speaker 2: maybe the prison like atmosphere, something does happen where people

441
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: like think, I'm really in love with this person, and

442
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: then they try to interact outside of that and it

443
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: gets Then sometimes they're like, I don't know your last name.

444
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I never mind, but real emotion happens.

445
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: I need to watch that. I recently dipped my toe

446
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: back into ninety Day Fiance, which I.

447
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: Used to love a swal Yeah.

448
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've watched too much of that at one point

449
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: and it had to just kind of back away.

450
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 2: I think that was my experience too. I think I

451
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: over overdosed on it.

452
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the episodes I watched recently, I was like, oh,

453
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: it is still I mean, it actually is way more

454
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: wild than I can even remember. People just screaming at

455
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 3: each other in front of the like during the confessional,

456
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: things like fighting with each other. You usually saved that

457
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 3: for like being in the wild. They fight and then

458
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 3: they get into the thing and yeah, this is a

459
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: ninety day. But I I'm shocked by how many people

460
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: they continue to like, how do you cast that show?

461
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: How were that there are that many people doing that?

462
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: And also that want to appear on TV. I'll never

463
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: understand it, but it's a nice thing to just flip

464
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: on when you're traveling.

465
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: I think, so Golden Bachelor, are.

466
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: You I've never watched The Bachelor.

467
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: I like Golden. I think you might like Golden.

468
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: What is just called the Golden Golden? Like, is it

469
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 3: significantly different than Bachelor Vanilla?

470
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, it is in that the while you know the

471
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: conceit right, they're all older, the tone and the feeling

472
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: is just much kinder. Oh interesting, which some people have

473
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 2: been like, I don't like that, and I'm sort of like,

474
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of It's kind of nice and an interesting

475
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: different show. There's very little like in fighting between and

476
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: the stuff that they fight about is like sweet, like

477
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Speaker 2: I think you're guacamole made my tummy hurt. It was

478
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: like one of the fights between two of the two

479
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 2: of the women the season, and it's like, that's not mean.

480
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 2: So I'm enjoying it. I find it kind of soue

481
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Speaker 2: that well.

482
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Speaker 3: That sounds nice. Yeah, because the brief glimpses I've had

483
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: of Regular Bachelor stressed me out in an enormous way,

484
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: and seeing that many type of that person on television,

485
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Speaker 3: I don't think I could sit through hours an hour. Yeah,

486
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: so maybe I'll get into Golden Bachelor. I don't know. Well,

487
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: there's something else I want to talk about. I was

488
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: obviously very excited. I've been counting down the days from

489
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 3: basically twenty sixteen, I think is when I first started

490
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: hearing about you. When am I going to meet Emily Altman?

491
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 3: What will take place? Yeah, we'll she live up to

492
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: my expectations that people are building and building and building.

493
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Speaker 3: So I was happy that you wanted to come on

494
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Speaker 3: the podcast, and I was looking forward to this evening.

495
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: Did I say it was a night at the beginning

496
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Speaker 3: of the podcast the listener, I think a listener needs

497
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: to know that darkness has descended on the podcast. It's

498
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: deep night. A coyote could jump over the fence at

499
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: any point back to what we're talking about. I was

500
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: a little shocked. I was a little surprised when you

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: came a knocking and you were holding what, from where

502
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 3: I'm sitting, appears to be a gift. It's a gift

503
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: A podcast is called. I said, no gifts.

504
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: I knew that.

505
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 3: So interesting You're owning it.

506
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: I mean, what else can I do at this point?

507
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I have to own it.

508
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: Egg all over your face, covered an egg, dripping egg.

509
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: Well, uh, I don't know if show I open it

510
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: here on the podcast, I want you to. Okay, Well,

511
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: it's a very interesting wrapping. Uh, kind of a tissue

512
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: with Oh is this Salvador dwelling on it?

513
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Speaker 2: I believe it is, and it says live it up.

514
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a libertine. Okay, but I'm not gonna

515
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Speaker 2: say anything more.

516
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna open in the Oh. Yeah, the ribbon

517
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: does save libertine and so ripping, crumpling, ripping, ripping, ripping.

518
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 3: Oh what Wow, this is a butter sculpture of turkey.

519
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: I've never seen one of these before.

520
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Speaker 2: Okay.

521
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Speaker 3: It's about the size of a I would say the

522
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: size of a hummingbird. But it's a turkey, and it's

523
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: a different bird.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a.

525
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Speaker 3: Little different than a humming. Tell me what's going on here?

526
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Speaker 2: Well, we are in the Thanksgiving season, yes, and I

527
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: just thought this would be, you know, a festive friend

528
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: that you can have around. Also doesn't have to be

529
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Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving.

530
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Speaker 3: Oh, of course, save it for Valentine's Day, but.

531
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Speaker 2: It could be cute. It could be cute on any tablescape.

532
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: I think, Oh yeah, Easter is just around the corner.

533
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: We never know an Easter is. Wow, it's lovely. I mean,

534
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Speaker 2: where do you buy something like this local grocery is?

535
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: And I kept him frozen until I came over here,

536
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: so he's still I think it's okay for him to

537
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: be out and chilling. And I'm just saying, if you

538
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: at some point want to get him in a fridge,

539
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: there's no rush.

540
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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I'm confused about how you're supposed

541
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: to store butter actually, because I feel like, growing up,

542
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 3: my mom just had butter on a plate in the cupboard.

543
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Speaker 2: That's what they do in Europe. They'd never put it

544
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Speaker 2: in they just the European way is, you know, the fringe.

545
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I I tried that Actually, for a

546
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Speaker 2: couple of years I got like the thing on your counter.

547
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Speaker 2: There's like a specific I forget what it's called, but it's.

548
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: Like a little dome for terrarium essentially.

549
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then I felt like, am I going to

550
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: get some disease from doing this?

551
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: And I gave up, right, But I think it makes

552
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Speaker 3: more sense to have it out because then it's usable.

553
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: It's always soft.

554
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're pulling it out of the fridge, you're

555
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: not getting that on a piece of toast. Now you're

556
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Speaker 3: scraping and scratched.

557
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: Digging into the or pushing them a lot.

558
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: The world break through, you might break through the bread

559
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: to just you're squishing the toast and it's got like

560
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: a slightly cold butter on it, the worst feeling in

561
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: the world. So I like a room temperature butter. I mean,

562
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: I don't practice what I preach. It's all in the

563
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: fridge and I do a lot of baking, and every

564
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: cookie recipe says room temperature butter, and so it's always

565
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: me cheating or panicking. So I need to just be

566
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: better about leaving butter out. Maybe this turkey could sit

567
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: on my counter.

568
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: I hope.

569
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: So I wonder is it just normal butter. Can I

570
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: use this in any way I want?

571
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: I really think it's just normal butter.

572
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: Interesting. I want to use this in a recipe. I

573
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: don't even want to put it on toast or anything.

574
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: Now it's so I guess it's if you had this

575
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: at Thanksgiving, you'd be putting that on a roll.

576
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I sort of imagined, is yeah, like

577
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: next to the roles at the Thanksgiving table.

578
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: Right, It's been a while since I've had a good roll.

579
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I feel like it's hard, Like when are you ever

580
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: in a situation where rolls are presented?

581
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: If they're on the menu at a restaurant, I get

582
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: very excited, Like Parker rolls, Oh delicious that I get

583
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: very excited because it feels yeah, it feels very like

584
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: every day and yet we don't eat them every day.

585
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: But restaurants usually don't offer them to me.

586
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm just have you ever been to Hippo and Highland Park? Yes,

587
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: they have a role there. That is just that I

588
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: would eat four plates of those roles now, that's what

589
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: I want. I don't think I'm gonna have roles at Thanksgiving.

590
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: I have a bad feeling. Why I just have I

591
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: feel like.

592
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: People prioritize roles. You could get them. Well, I'm in

593
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: charge of pie. Oh okay, what kind of pie do

594
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: you mean again?

595
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: I got a what is known as a Derby pie,

596
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: which is like chocolate pecan.

597
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh, i've made that before. I didn't know it was

598
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: called that.

599
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: I didn't either. I learned this over the phone when

600
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: I said, you have a pecan pie and they said no,

601
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: but we have Derby, which is chocolate pecan. They corrected you. Yes,

602
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: it was a it was a cold phone call. It

603
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: was icy. Oh so you're picking up pie picking. I'm

604
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: not making them because I'm afraid of I've never made

605
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: pie crust because that's too hard, so high steaks. Yeah,

606
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: and that's something you need cold butter for. Yeah, that's

607
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: why you have to have some butter in the fringe. Yes, no,

608
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm buying the pie. It seemed like a decent price

609
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: for one. My grandma said I should have gone to Costco.

610
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: Apparently they have six dollar pies. But I thought, I

611
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: want this to be a very good pie rather than

612
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: I feel like a six dollar pumpkin pie is not

613
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: really what I'm looking for.

614
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I don't know pumpkin pie kind of honestly

615
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: always sort of tastes the same to me, even if

616
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: someone's like it's pumpkin in particular, I'm sort of like, Yep,

617
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: this is what it tastes like when I have it,

618
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: and I like it.

619
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: But it's just kind of wet and sweet, and it's

620
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: all coming from a can.

621
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

622
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone makes fresh pumpkin pie.

623
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: I do.

624
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't want it. There was pulp in there. I

625
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: don't want that. You mention the strings.

626
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: Strings cutting a piece of pumpkin pie and pulling it

627
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: out and it's just strings.

628
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the inside of a jack o lantern

629
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: directly into a Oh no.

630
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: I mean, now that we're talking about this, I've never

631
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: been I've never really thought about the process of how

632
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: a pumpkin becomes whatever that is in the can, because

633
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: that does not look anything like pumpkin.

634
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all. And also that the

635
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: texture alone is like, how do we get I am?

636
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: I always thought it was like, did they put like

637
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: cream in it and boil and gelatin.

638
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: Right or is it straight on? At least we do

639
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: some research here. I want to know if that's pure pumpkin.

640
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: It looks like beef tallow or something.

641
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: It's disgusting as marrow in it lardo, And.

642
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: I'm not a pumpkin pie eater.

643
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Not for me. I get. I have the one a

644
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: sliver once once a year. Maybe I also have it on

645
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: Christmas too, but it's just a sliver. It's not my favorite.

646
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: What's your pie?

647
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: Pecan? And actually chocolate pecan probably would be.

648
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why more people don't put

649
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: chocolate and pecan pie. It's right there, it's right there.

650
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: It's a perfect combination.

651
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: It turns it into essentially around candy bar. That's when

652
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: you when you get that slice. Sometimes you're eating it

653
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: and you're like, these are flavors that I only have

654
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: experienced in a candy bar report, never like on my

655
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: plate on a lease. I just read a very disturbing sentence.

656
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: So this isn't the disturbing sentence, but basically, have to

657
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: roast the pumpkin, and it says once the pumpkin is roasted,

658
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: to throw the softened flesh into a.

659
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: Food process or blend until smooth. Easy. I got goosebumps. Wait,

660
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: does that mean that the exterior of the pumpkin is

661
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: in the pie as well as it does.

662
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: I think it's a whole hog, not the.

663
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: Vine, not the curly vinyl say tip to tail, Oh yeah,

664
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: tip to is that what the fra to use every

665
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: part of the pumpkin.

666
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: They're not putting the stem in there.

667
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: And I hope they're not putting the stem or that

668
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: curly vine that I keep sitting in my mind's eye.

669
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: The curly vine. Yeah, that has little spikes on it,

670
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: and it makes the pumpkin less fun. I'll say that. Yeah, okay, interesting.

671
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: So people are making this weird wet stuff at home.

672
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: They're roasting, their crunching, they're smoothing. I've never had I

673
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: feel like it's the sort of thing where it's like

674
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: the natural peanut butter wherever. You know, it's not all ketchup.

675
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: When someone's like, we make our own ketchup, but I'm like,

676
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: don't because it's not as good.

677
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: I had a fanciish ketchup with dinner tonight, and I'm

678
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: now revealing to you that I had dinner at five pm.

679
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: But and I was just like, give me hines exactly

680
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: what everyone wants all the time.

681
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: This is I mean, I don't think I'm the only

682
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: one who feels this way. But when I have fancy ketchup,

683
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, this tastes like tomatoes, which is what

684
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: it should taste like, but I don't want it to.

685
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: But I actually don't think that's what it should taste like.

686
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that's why ketchup exists.

687
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there was. I think it's always

688
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: been like a sweet, vinegary yeah thing, Yes, I prefer

689
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: vinegar forward, kind of like sort of like, yeah, it's

690
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: it's a dressing, it's a I was about to say

691
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: that it's American, but I don't know that it's America.

692
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. We wonder where ketchup came from. Probably Germany.

693
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you say ketchup, not calf cats up? Have

694
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: you ever a mess who says cats up? But we

695
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: know they exist somewhere.

696
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: They must be somewhere on least, what are you saying here?

697
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: Imperial China, China.

698
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: Completely tomato free, So you guys are onto Okay, I'm

699
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: not there yet.

700
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: But it's pure viegar. It was the soft flesh.

701
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Interesting, it was made with fish and trails, meat by

702
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: products and soybeans.

703
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, this is pretty much the same thing.

704
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost exactly that's the ketchup we know and

705
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: love kind of a classic thing. You find it a

706
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: McDonald's or what have you. Okay, so the butter of

707
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: the the pie, the rolls. What are you in charge

708
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: of thanks for things?

709
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm actually bringing dessert myself and this is kind of

710
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm a little I brought this as a gift, but

711
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: when i'm bringing, I'm going to my sister's for Thanksgiving

712
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: and I'm bringing. Do you know about the Baskin Robbin's

713
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: turkey cake?

714
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: No, but I love whatever you're about to tell.

715
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: Me, Well, I'm into as evidenced by your gift, like

716
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: food that looks like other oh shored. I just think

717
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: it's fun. And so this was like, I think an

718
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: eighties thing that Baskin Robbins did, and then it went

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: away because people were like, this is disgusting and has

720
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: no taste. And then two years ago America was like,

721
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: we love it, bring it back, and it is. It

722
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: honestly looks like it's got to be like twenty pounds

723
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: of ice cream. It's just a we're looking at a picture.

724
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: It's just glazed looking. It looks exactly like a turkey.

725
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: But when you cut it open, inside its cookies and cream,

726
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: ice cream, or any ice cream flavor that you choose.

727
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: I went with their traditional cookies and cream. So they

728
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: make it there at the what do we call it

729
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: a scoopery and ice cream and the Baskin Robins. Yeah,

730
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: they make it there, and I pre ordered and you

731
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: just go like any other of their ice cream cakes.

732
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I've had their. I mean I love their other

733
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: normal ice cream cakes.

734
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I hope it'll taste good like that. What's what's on

735
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: the outside that looks like Okay, that's it. But the

736
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: one thing I do really like is that the drumsticks

737
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: are sugar cones. That sounds kind of fun and maybe

738
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: you get a little ice I mean, maybe it'll be fun.

739
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: I haven't been to Baskin Robinson a long time. How

740
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: was it holding up? Ice cream wise?

741
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's very good. I just I was like,

742
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: by the time I get to the end of the sentence,

743
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: maybe all it'll land a little differently, maybe we'll soften it.

744
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't, I don't. I don't

745
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: think it's it's sort of the most basic I think, right,

746
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: not very junk foody tasting ice cream.

747
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: I hate to hear that. Yeah, because now we've kind

748
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: of entered the salt and straw or Jenny's phase, which

749
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: is very good ice cream, but it's unbelievably expensive.

750
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: And also I don't need the like that's so artisanal,

751
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: Like I don't need like lavender ice cream. I like mcconnald's.

752
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: I feel like mcconnall's right. Yes, they have like a

753
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: peanut butter flavor. Yes, just give me treats, put candy

754
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: in there. Yes, that's why I'm here. I'm not here

755
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: for my health. Literally, I mean, I'm not here to

756
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: eat a flower, but they want me to.

757
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: McConnell's is very good, but uh, I actually held a

758
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: birthday party at the one in those Felis a few

759
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: years ago and then it shut down.

760
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: And quickly you got in there before it was only

761
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: opened so briefly.

762
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's because there were nineteen ice cream stores in

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: that neighborhood. Yes, only one, and I think only one

764
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: is still remaining. Jenny's standis because there was the other

765
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: one that was part of that whole What was that

766
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: called that like Steven Spielberg was investing in and it

767
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: was they had a factory in Brooklyn.

768
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh, ample Hills, Ample Hills.

769
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an interesting rise and fall of ice cream.

770
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they're They're in Brooklyn, where I live most of

771
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: the time. They are back. They're back. They're back as

772
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: in this summer, they came back. They rose from their

773
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: chili creve and their back to serve delicious ice cream.

774
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: And I really do Ample Hills is delicious and I

775
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: love them. Wow. So have they changed anything? They were

776
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: kind of the we work of ice cream. Yes, I

777
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: thought that was. I don't know if you read the

778
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: same article I did some.

779
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Long forms, so I have retained none of the information

780
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: except for the feeling.

781
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: Retained enough to say long form article. But then what

782
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: I remember chilling me to the bone about it was

783
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: it was like two kind of just like creative people

784
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: that were like, all right, let's run a corporation. Let's

785
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: like get it bigger and bigger and bigger. And then

786
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 2: they got a certain point they were like, we don't

787
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: know how to do business, Like we don't and sorry,

788
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: we just signed a deal with Disney and Delta Red

789
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Flag and like they just started signing deals with huge

790
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: corporations and then all the money it just kind of

791
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: collapsed interesting. Yeah.

792
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: I remember when like Mickey Mouse started appearing in the store.

793
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Is like something's gone wrong. Yeah, they have too many

794
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: corporate sponsorships. They're in bed with too many billion dollar companies.

795
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: What's happening to the ice cream?

796
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

797
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: And then they all shut down. Yeah, is it still

798
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: the husband and wife running?

799
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: I think so. I think they're just starting all over again. Yeah, exactly.

800
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm happy for them, and the ice cream remains delicious.

801
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for them.

802
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: I feel like they were going to open an ice

804
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: cream museum.

805
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: It was.

806
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: It was a little too ambitious. Yeah, just make some

807
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: ice cream.

808
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: Yep, that's all.

809
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: What flavor ice cream is your favorite? What sort of

810
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: stuff are you dealing with there? I love.

811
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: Well, I do. When you said peanut butter cup before,

812
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: that's that's a flavor combo that I always really enjoy,

813
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: peanut butter and chocolate, a cookie in there. I like

814
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: a nice crunch, Yes, a nice crunch, I don't. I

815
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: tend to like things that have another thing within them

816
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 2: rather than like vanilla, right, or just the one flavor right.

817
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if I'm getting two scoops of ice cream,

818
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: one can be the pure flavor, but one of them

819
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: has to have some element in there that I'll be

820
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: chewing at some point.

821
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: Yep. Otherwise it's going to be a weird experience for it.

822
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: If I have to get the plain flavor, and I would.

823
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: I do sometimes get coffee.

824
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: I like coffee, a coffee or a really dark chocolate.

825
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, But the other things. Forget it, yeah, get

826
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: it out of here. I was just talking to someone

827
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: recently about how much dogs love peanut butter. I wonder,

828
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I like, humans and dogs are the only creatures who

829
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: love peanut butter.

830
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: It seems like it is, because you know, when you

831
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: say that, I used to live in Italy and I

832
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Italy, and they hate

833
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: peanut butter.

834
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: They hate it.

835
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: They think it's disgusting. What like, they don't understand peanuts

836
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: in general. They're like, what the hell? But like I've

837
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: said this before, but I was watching with a group

838
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: of Italians that movie Meet Joe Black.

839
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: Do you know, I remember I've never seen it, but.

840
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: But it's I forget why. But the Brad Pitt character,

841
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: I think, like, who's a ghost maybe or something. He's

842
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: like always eating peanut butter and some of the Italians

843
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: I was with hissed, they hissed, they hissed when he

844
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: ate it, And like I've had Italians ask me like,

845
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: you don't like peanut butter, right, like you don't, and

846
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm like I do, like I do love it. I

847
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: think it's just like not. Maybe it's the way that

848
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: we feel about like marmite or whatever, those like Australian things.

849
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: Australian I was thinking about Duri and yeah, so I

850
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: guess it's something you just have to be fed as

851
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: a kid and you grow up with it. My dad

852
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: hates peanut butter. Actually, interesting, huge rift between us about

853
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm exactly wow, but peanut butter to me just seems

854
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: like it should be a universally loved food.

855
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: I know. That's why it was so eye opening for me.

856
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: Is I thought it was like, sure, I like water milk,

857
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: peanut butter, Like I thought it was like one of

858
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: the classic everyone that's all I need. But it's not.

859
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not.

860
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like whenever on Great British Bakeoff

861
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: that peanut butter gets brought up, it almost feels like

862
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: even to British people like this kind of exotic thing

863
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: we're going to put in the dessert like this unconventional thing,

864
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: where for me it's like I think that that should

865
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: be in every dessert you make.

866
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: I Oh my god, me too. I love at a

867
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: restaurant when they are like, here's our elevated version of

868
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: a Reese's cup or something I get so they could

869
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: just bring out a Reese's cup, but I'm so excited.

870
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 3: I was talking about this on the podcast recently about

871
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: like if cheese It's were served to me at a restaurant,

872
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: I'd be like I would be telling everyone about that

873
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: restaurant like it's an incredible food, and same with like

874
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: a Reese's.

875
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: I've heard that cheese It's in red wine is like

876
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: a very lovely Seriously, I've heard this, and I keep

877
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: meaning to try that. It's like a very nice, like

878
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: opera TiVo snap that the cheese in cheese. It's like,

879
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm ready for that to be true, and I'm just

880
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: saying that it is even if it's not.

881
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: That's an incredible little piece of information. I once held

882
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: a like, instead of a wine and cheese party, amountain

883
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: doing processed cheese party.

884
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: And let's be honest, processed cheese is very good. It's wonderful.

885
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean, unless it's cold, then I'm in hell. I

886
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: would rather eat raw chicken than a piece of uh,

887
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: just like an American cheese raw. No, thank you god.

888
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: How did we get here? That's always the question on

889
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: this podcast is how did we end up with me

890
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: talking about eating raw chicken? It doesn't matter.

891
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: You keep looking at that bird chicken. Oh interesting, But

892
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: that's what I was thinking, is don't forget that this

893
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: is a bird too. Yeah, he's cute. Now, what are

894
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: your plans for New Year's Oh, my goodness.

895
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't Year's person.

896
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: No, I if something. Occasionally I've been, like done a

897
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: trip with friends or things like that, but I do

898
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: not put a lot of pressure on myself of like,

899
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: this has got to be the best night of my life. Often,

900
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: often i'm asleep before midnight. Beautiful far Often sometimes it's

901
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: very comforting, actually, But I don't know. Maybe I'll do

902
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: it either I'll like be with friends and go on

903
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: a trip, or I'm not. I'm not a big New

904
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: Year's party person, all right.

905
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: I think going on a trip is probably the best solution.

906
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: I've never done that before. It's usually just bad party,

907
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 3: mediocre party yea, or watching one of these insane TV

908
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: shows it's on that's just like a bunch of garbage,

909
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: like a true parade of garbage for four hours. Yes,

910
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: And then I go to sleep. Yeah, it's the one

911
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: night of the year that I'm kind of okay going

912
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: to bed before midnight.

913
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: I oh, I go to bed pretty early anyway. But

914
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: I also I don't mind just opting out of the

915
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: whole thing. Sometimes it's kind of fun when you wake

916
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: up in the morning and you're like, it's the next year.

917
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: No like to go to sleep, And I don't know,

918
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: I kind of I don't. I don't mind it.

919
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: Are you a Halloween person? I feel like they're kind

920
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: of cousin holidays. I yes, I like Halloween.

921
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: I like the Halloween season, and I like spooky and

922
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: scary things, right, But I think probably of the holidays,

923
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: I like Christmas. I do.

924
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: Christmas is a wonderful time.

925
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: It is. I like it. There's so many lights up

926
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: in your neighborhood already.

927
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: My neighbors probably they must be like, oh, that man

928
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: is so sad. I never decorate for anything, and my

929
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: boyfriends and New York this year, so I won't even

930
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: have a Christmas tree that's gonna it's gonna be just

931
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: kind of a cold, sad place.

932
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: You don't even get a tiny little target. I don't have. Also,

933
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: when you're at home alone putting up a tree, sometimes

934
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: it's not It feels better to just ignore.

935
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just shut it down. I'll see a

936
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: tree in New York at some point and that'll be enough.

937
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: I but my neighbors are doing a good job. It

938
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: just feels like I'm like the one light bulb that's

939
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: not working on this string. But I only have so

940
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: much energy.

941
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I understand.

942
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Only did you dress up for Halloween this year?

943
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: I did not. I did not this year. I just wasn't.

944
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling it. This year. I did. I did

945
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: enjoy seeing other people's costumes, but I didn't get it

946
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: together in time. I guess snuck up on me.

947
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

948
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: I have on and off years. There's some years where

949
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: it just doesn't matter at all to me, and then

950
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: there are other years are like, I'm going, I'm excited

951
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: to put on a costume.

952
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you feel it, if there's a party

953
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: that you're excited about or like an event, then I

954
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: will plan and get very excited about it, but I don't.

955
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 2: Usually I don't. I don't do anything half asked. That's

956
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: not true, but no one says that about Yeah, that's

957
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: that's what I'm known for. But yeah, now, if if

958
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm not fully planning a costume.

959
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: Then I just usually don't don't do anything. What was

960
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: the least memorable costume you had?

961
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: I really had a lot of fun. I did Flash

962
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: Dance Jennifer Beale and Flash Dance, and that was a

963
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: very satisfying costume because I could get all of the

964
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 2: pieces you need for it to make an accurate costume. Yes,

965
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: and then it just it was. It was satisfying in

966
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: that way. It wasn't like that kind of like janky

967
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: version of like who are you?

968
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

969
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: I kind of this like you kind of almost don't

970
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: understand how her outfit is like so iconic. But if

971
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: you get all the pieces, then everybody knows exactly who

972
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: you are.

973
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean, speaking of janky costumes, I went

974
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: as Mary Barry one year and it was a thing

975
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: where I I simply looked like a frightening man. There

976
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: was nothing about it that looked like an old British

977
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: just kind of a cheap wig and uh sport code

978
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, Halloween, butter, I feel like we've covered

979
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: a lot of holidays stuff here. Are you gonna be

980
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: back east for Christmas?

981
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna be because my sister is out here.

982
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I just was like, and I'm gonna be here through

983
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: the end of February. I was like, we'll do all

984
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: the holidays together out here.

985
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: Do you have nieces and nephews?

986
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: I do. I have a niece and a nephew, and

987
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: they're who I'm thinking of with that turkey cake. Wow,

988
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna they're gonna go think for a child,

989
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: like it looks like a turkey, but it's ice cream

990
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: on the inside. I think they'll be pretty.

991
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: So they're gonna go. They're gonna be off the wall

992
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: for that thing. Are you buying them Christmas presents? Oh?

993
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll get them.

994
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: What is your process like? Because mine is deeply stressful

995
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: for my niece's.

996
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So I always it's just I turn to my

997
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: sister and I say what do they want? What is it?

998
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: And then within that I try to be creative and

999
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: fun and give my little twist, and sometimes I might

1000
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: add my own own thing that nobody asked for it,

1001
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: but I like to feel on solid ground and confident

1002
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: by getting them things that's somewhere in there that I

1003
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: know that they actually want. What ages are they seven

1004
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: and nine? Okay?

1005
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: Those are still like fun toy ages? Yes, yes, I

1006
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: just I ask my sister. But then I kind of

1007
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: ignore her because I think, oh, I want this to

1008
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: be such a unique, incredible present, and then I fail,

1009
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: Uh huh, why just listen to whatever she tells me.

1010
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: I understand that drive, though, because I want so badly

1011
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: them to open a present and be like, oh my god, right,

1012
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm so moved, like, thank you.

1013
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: For being in my life exactly like you see me

1014
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: in a way that nobody else does.

1015
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for this. I want, I want that that

1016
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: that hasn't really happened.

1017
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm personally just kind of waiting for them

1018
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: to be old enough to be excited about money. Oh yeah,

1019
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: when I can just buy a card and put some

1020
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: money in there and that's all they want in the world. Yeah,

1021
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: then I don't have to get online and look for

1022
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: what chapter books are good for a seven year old.

1023
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: This sort of thing, which is eventually is satisfying if

1024
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: you find something good, but you know, I might get

1025
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: one of my nieces. The mouse in the motorcycle, I

1026
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: hadn't thought about that in a long time.

1027
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: I actually don't know the mouse in the mouth, don't.

1028
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I had a visual in my mind of a mouse,

1029
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: I hope, so driving a boat. I'm picturing like Richard's

1030
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: scary style. But that's not what it is.

1031
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 3: No, it's more realistic. And as someone who despises mice

1032
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: and rats, this should not be for me. But it's

1033
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: very cute. And then there's a movie, a live action movie,

1034
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: where there's a little mouse driving a motorcycle around. Who

1035
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: can ask for more? A Lisa, you're familiar with the

1036
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: mouse in the motorcycle. Everyone's looking at me like I'm

1037
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: out of my mind. I thought this was like Bones

1038
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: that it's like bear Bones. Description of like mouse and

1039
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: motorcycle was like, he doesn't even have a name. He

1040
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: just a mouse.

1041
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: I think it's Ralph.

1042
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: Okay, if it's Ralph, I mean, wow, I learned one

1043
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: thing reading it's Ralph.

1044
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good.

1045
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm thrilled. That really suck with me, and I

1046
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: feel like it's a whole series. It's a saga.

1047
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Do you like other. Do you like Stuart Little? Do

1048
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: you like other?

1049
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: I never read Stuart Little? Okay, I read a book

1050
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: called The Cricket and Times Square.

1051
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: I think that was sounds familiar to me.

1052
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: Kind of had a big impact on me. You know,

1053
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 3: you love to hear about small creatures in.

1054
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: The big city.

1055
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Stuart Little. Though I wonder why that skipped me.

1056
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: I don't remember particularly loving it, but it had like

1057
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: then there was a live action, and I just felt

1058
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: like one of those books that like everyone's like yeah, yeah,

1059
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: like like Flat Stanley, which I do love. Did you

1060
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: you read Flat Stanley? You never read Flat Stanley? And

1061
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: the name of that is so scary. Why why does

1062
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: Flat Stanley sound so scary? Well, because if that story

1063
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: was just like one click to the left, it would

1064
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: be a horror movie.

1065
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: Is the story?

1066
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's what you think. He's flattened. Oh, he's utterly flattened,

1067
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: but he's like supported by his community and everybody loves him,

1068
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: and so they put him in like enviolnce opes and

1069
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: send him around the world.

1070
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: And my mom did this. She's a kindergarten so she

1071
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: did send Flat Stanley around. Yeah, so I think I

1072
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: must have taken a picture of a flat Stanley, I

1073
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: think the beach or whatever.

1074
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's it's about basically about what could be

1075
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: a horrific experience, but it's framed does like it's fun,

1076
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: Like he can travel everywhere. Look what he can do

1077
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: now that he's fully flat. That like nobody else could

1078
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 2: do what flattens him? I wish I could remember it can't.

1079
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: It must just be magic or something, right, It's not

1080
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: like there's no pain. There's the exactly I don't know.

1081
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: Maybe there was a pan, but there's no pain, no pain,

1082
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: Thank goodness.

1083
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: He's squashed flat by a bulletin board while sleeping. His

1084
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: last name is lamb Chop.

1085
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: Oh, lamb chop.

1086
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: Confusing by a bulletin board. I mean that's what happens

1087
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: when you follow sleep by over over his bed.

1088
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: I guess that's.

1089
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: Board Stanley lamb Chop. Yeah, flattened. I mean that is

1090
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 3: kind of a scary story.

1091
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: I loved it as a kid. I just thought that

1092
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: idea was so cool and fun though, that like he

1093
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: could try, like he a lot of it's about travel

1094
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: and how he does it for free. He can like,

1095
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: you know, like put him in a mailbox, put him

1096
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: in a padded envelope, like he can go wherever and

1097
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: nobody minds.

1098
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't. I thought that that was like a

1099
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: recent that book was a recent thing and it's been

1100
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: around for a minute.

1101
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I think it's been around for a while.

1102
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: Like when I was growing up, there wasn't the thing

1103
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: in schools where people were doing it. But I did

1104
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: read it as okay, okay, yeah, I feel like we

1105
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: read a lot.

1106
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean every version of the gingerbread Man. Oh yeah, yeah,

1107
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: I feel like would go to this school cafeteria and

1108
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: get a gingerbread man or something. Not a gingerbread fan.

1109
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: Again, maybe once a year I'll have I'll have a

1110
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: small piece, write a bite, a bite, but I'm not

1111
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: consuming the full gingerbread product.

1112
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't need that, although they do so.

1113
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: Have you ever had those little ice cream sandwiches that

1114
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: are ginger bread men?

1115
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: No, although that does sound good, I would try that.

1116
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: I remember those being very good, but again, this was

1117
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: when I was in elementary school. It could be a

1118
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 3: disgusting product.

1119
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Like two men.

1120
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: It's in this small gingerbread men with vanilla ice cream.

1121
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Oh that does sound really that calm see to me?

1122
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: Then we've got the ice cream to fall back on.

1123
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: So even if the cookie is not that great, right,

1124
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 2: I'd still I like an ice cream sandwich.

1125
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: So I love an ice cream sandwich. I'm not crazy

1126
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: about an ice cream sandwich that's made out of fresh cookies. No,

1127
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't work.

1128
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: I like the traditional old like just the with the

1129
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: two like dark brown kind of bricks on either side,

1130
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: which those individually? What are those? They're not cookie.

1131
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a tutsi roll situation where it's like,

1132
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: that's not chocolate, it's not cookie, it's what is.

1133
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 2: I just had this conversation less than one week ago

1134
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: with someone where the question was what is a tutsi roll?

1135
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: And he was like, it's taffy and I was like,

1136
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: don't just say that. We know what taffy is and

1137
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: that's not But then we googled it and it was like,

1138
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: it's a chocolate flavored taffy and he was very triumphant,

1139
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's not you know, that's cheating

1140
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: and you know that's not fair. It's just not true.

1141
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 2: It's not true, not true.

1142
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 3: I would almost put a totsy roll in a root

1143
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: beer category or something.

1144
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so what I that's better. It's almost it's

1145
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: almost like more almost like a caramel almost, right.

1146
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: I feel like there's I mean maybe a suggestion of

1147
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: chocolate that it's drown just the.

1148
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: Fact that it's brown. That's it. There's not there's nothing.

1149
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: I want some chocolate. Get me a ttzy roll, hmm

1150
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: deep dark. I'm gonna melt this tootsy roll and put

1151
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: it on top of my eyes. No, none of those things.

1152
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that idea is so disgusting. Also, mixing

1153
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: tootsy rolls into like a ch chocolate chip cookie, imagine, because.

1154
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: It's not toffee either. It's certainly not toffee either.

1155
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: And I feel like if I was blindfolded and someone

1156
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 3: put and I had never had it totsi roll before,

1157
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: and they put it in my mouth, I wouldn't be like, oh,

1158
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 3: I'm eating something related to chocolate right now.

1159
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: No, No, it would be a like a It's like

1160
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: a nondescript candy in a bowl, like a hard candies

1161
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: in the middle, and you're sort of like, what is

1162
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: this taste?

1163
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, right, it's a nice chew.

1164
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: It's a nice chew.

1165
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 3: I like a chew. But yeah, as far as chocolate goes,

1166
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: it's crazy to me that totsi roll is still in business. Yeah,

1167
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm actually happy about that.

1168
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: I kind of like it's like an old fashioned I'm

1169
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: amazed that it is.

1170
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like, uh, it has no reason

1171
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: to still be around. It's just not a cool candy

1172
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: in what in any.

1173
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Way like necho wafers.

1174
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean, now that should be shut down.

1175
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't believe nobody ever liked that, even when

1176
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: they were kids.

1177
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: No, it's I have I've said it before, I'll say

1178
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: it again. It's the taste of mother's purse. Yes, that's

1179
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: my mom would have those at the bottom.

1180
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: Of her purse. I hated the flavor, The textures horrible.

1181
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: How it's like a powder in a compact kind of like.

1182
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like a gas. You know, it's not

1183
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: it's impossible to say what form that actually is. It's

1184
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: not a liquid, it's not a powder, it's not a solid.

1185
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: It's its own scientific category.

1186
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: They're still they persist.

1187
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 3: There's someone likes them. And the chocolate one of that

1188
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: that is the worst flavor in the package. I do

1189
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: like how they look.

1190
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: That's what draws me in every time. They're beautiful, the colors,

1191
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: they're stylish, they're stylish, They're like timeless. Absolutely, I feel

1192
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: like they haven't changed the look for as long as

1193
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: they've been around. Is got to want to go out

1194
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: of business? Do They're they're testing. They're sort of like,

1195
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: we're not going to do anything. Let's see if American

1196
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: notices and America is like, we'll continue to support you.

1197
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's crazy.

1198
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know where I would buy a

1199
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: neck away for at this point, and I'm glad.

1200
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of actual there's a lot of

1201
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: candy like that that I'm like, are those still around?

1202
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: And then they are? But I don't know where you

1203
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: go now for like a fifth Avenue or an O

1204
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 2: Henry fifth Avenue?

1205
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: I think is that is gone?

1206
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: Oh?

1207
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: I used to love Avenue. I felt that I saw it.

1208
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: She merely collapsed.

1209
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: That was one of my childhood favorites.

1210
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun too, and I remember

1211
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: them having good commercials.

1212
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.

1213
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: I thought it was better than Butterfinger.

1214
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was superior Butterfinger as well. It had

1215
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: more of a peanut butter flavor and the chocolate on

1216
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: the outside. I believe this is like a darker chalk let.

1217
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: It was more sophisticated. Let's be on.

1218
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: I can't accept that it's gone. Really of not having

1219
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay score. These are ones that used to

1220
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: be able to see at a seven to eleven, and

1221
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: I feel like now you'd have to. I feel like

1222
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: they're still around. You just have to go and find them.

1223
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know where, right Mars, which is now

1224
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: just a Snicker's almond which is.

1225
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: Is it really the same thing?

1226
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically this. I think that they decided Mars

1227
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: shouldn't exist anymore. And I loved the Mars package.

1228
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

1229
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: A lot of things that have just mistakes are constantly

1230
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: being made on a links.

1231
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: The Fifth Avenue bars are still available. Oh my god,

1232
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 4: it's back on hersheyland dot com.

1233
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't know hershey Land.

1234
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but something makes me trust a

1235
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: website named hershey Yeah.

1236
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: That's my news source. That's my number one news source.

1237
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: They must have brought it back because I remember being

1238
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: heartbroken for years. Fifth Avenue.

1239
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's horrible now it's a pet cemetery situation.

1240
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can't revive that.

1241
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's disgusting. Now I have to assume.

1242
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: I feel like, uh, and I could be wrong about this,

1243
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: So people have to do. You have to do your

1244
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: own research when you hear something on a podcast, of course,

1245
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: but I feel like a lot of Hershey candies are

1246
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: now Like I remember reading an article that they can

1247
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: have to be described as chocolate tea rather than chocolate. Yeah,

1248
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: because they don't use chocolate ingredients.

1249
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: I think that that tracks because I think a lot

1250
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: of things like that we consumed as like, oh, this

1251
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: is chocolate. I found out later like my line all

1252
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: my cat when he was a kitten, he jumped into

1253
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: a sheet cake that I had made, a Duncan heins

1254
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: c It was very cute and like he was like

1255
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: oh and like had like chocolate. But I had never

1256
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: had a cat before, so I called like Cat poison

1257
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: Control and I was like, he's guys covered in like chocolate.

1258
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: And they're like what, ma'am, what is the nature of emergency?

1259
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: They're like, man, what is the nature of the chocolate?

1260
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it's like a Duncan hines

1261
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: like cake. And then there was like a pause and

1262
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: they were like that has such low levels of actual

1263
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: chocolate that there is no danger of him at all

1264
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: having like you know, they're not like supposed to eat chcolate,

1265
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: but like that kind of thing where it's then you

1266
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: look at the packaging and it says like a chocolate

1267
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: experience or like inspired by real.

1268
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: Chocolates, disturbed by someone eating a chocolate bar. Yes, something

1269
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: like that. Wow, they really burned Duncan Hines there.

1270
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmm.

1271
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: I was thinking about buying Duncan Hines recently because I

1272
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: wanted to put it on a gram cracker, the frosting,

1273
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: the chocolate frosting. Have you ever had chocolate frosting on

1274
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: a gram cracker?

1275
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: No?

1276
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: And that sounds incredible, unbelievable.

1277
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh, and you put it in a tupperware and it

1278
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: gets just slightly soft on alice?

1279
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: Have you had this.

1280
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm bringing a lot of new ideas to this podcast.

1281
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: I ever heard this, and I'm one hundred percent going

1282
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: to try And I bet that would look You could

1283
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: make it look.

1284
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can make it look like a nice little

1285
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: thing like it always came out of a classic lunchbox

1286
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: or something. But I think I've only ever had it

1287
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: with frosting that was made at home, like my mom.

1288
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: So I don't know if Duncan hines would.

1289
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: I do frosting. I have no complaints about that.

1290
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe I need to get into it because

1291
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: that's a nice, easy treat that I recommend to everyone.

1292
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: And I both learned something. It's incredible.

1293
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: It's great because I wouldn't eat a gram cracker otherwise.

1294
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1295
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: I love a gram cracker just by itself solo.

1296
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not.

1297
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't find myself just sitting at home eating a

1298
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: gram cracker.

1299
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: I just mean it is small, more delicious.

1300
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: It's got to be accompanied by a dessert thing. To me,

1301
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: just by itself, I don't really.

1302
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I don't think I would enjoy it. If I,

1303
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, something went wrong and I was just

1304
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: eating a gram cracker, I think I would enjoy myself.

1305
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: But what is happening when I'm just eating a gram cracker?

1306
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: That's like you've given that by a preschool teacher exactly.

1307
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: I think of it accompanied with orange juice, which is

1308
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: like childhood like snack things exactly. But it's not a cookie.

1309
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: It's not a cracker, yeah, but it is.

1310
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: I think it was initially made as a health product.

1311
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: Really again, I'm saying things that I'm learning, so but

1312
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Graham Crackers, like in the eighteen hundred some.

1313
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: You know, you're right. I think Graham.

1314
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: I think there is some crazy backstory about the Graham

1315
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: Cracker and mister oh no, I know what it is.

1316
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: The town where I went to college, Sylvester Graham was there,

1317
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: and I believe he invented the Grammaster. I think he

1318
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: was the Grandmaster. That could be totally wrong, but that

1319
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: just came back to me. I don't know.

1320
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like one of those like a thing

1321
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: that would come up in like a like an almost

1322
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: cult community like Oneida. Is that what those things are like?

1323
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 3: I feel like one of these like utopian societies came

1324
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: up with a gram Cracker. Then they were all having

1325
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: sex with each other.

1326
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: It's just like the Kellogg's story or whatever, like corn

1327
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: flakes has I'm just gonna say it's in my mind

1328
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: because it's not accurate, and then we could look at

1329
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: but it's like corn flakes were invented so that people

1330
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: would be celibate. But there is something there is I

1331
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: mean that works actually that makes sense. There is some

1332
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: backstory about corn flakes where it was like originally a

1333
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: product for a religious group that was like sustenance, and

1334
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: then we've forgotten about its origins. But then it's like

1335
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: if you look it was it was tied to some

1336
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: sort of cult.

1337
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, plain cornflake is the food of someone that is

1338
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: not having sex.

1339
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. It's sort of a monkst meal, right, yeah,

1340
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: horrible cereal.

1341
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh but I guess it goes on top of a

1342
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: casserole or something. Time to play a game. I need

1343
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: a number between one and ten from you.

1344
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: Seven.

1345
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some like calculate. Okay, while

1346
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing this, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you

1347
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: want with the microphone.

1348
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Aback. I'm going to promote and say that I have

1349
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: a book that came out this week which is called

1350
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: How to Be Sane, And it is a very silly,

1351
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: absurdist comedy prose book. And it tells you it's written

1352
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: by this woman named doctor Teresa Loan, who says that

1353
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: she's a therapist and it's her self help book. But

1354
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: as you read it, you realize that she's just batshit

1355
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: And that's the book. So get it wherever books are sold.

1356
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: And I hope you have a law.

1357
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: Beautiful. I'm so excited about the book.

1358
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh good. I hope you read it, and I hope

1359
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: it makes you chuckle.

1360
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: How long did it take to write all told?

1361
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: Maybe about a year? I mean, is doing other stuff too,

1362
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, come back with maybe maybe a year total.

1363
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: It sounds like such a fun thing.

1364
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: I think you. I think for a lot of creative,

1365
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: funny people, you would enjoy doing that because you just

1366
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: get to sit down and just be a lunatic and

1367
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: then nobody is like, actually, no, we can't do that,

1368
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: and you're sort of like, I guess I'm just gonna

1369
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: do this until the end of the book.

1370
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Right, and it's not there's no worrying about budget

1371
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: or anything. It's just anything gonna happen here.

1372
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1373
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, let's play the game.

1374
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

1375
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I've recommended enough stuff on this podcast.

1376
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't have to recommend anything. Get a gram crack

1377
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: or enough frosting. This is how we play gift Master.

1378
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three gifts, three things you can give away. Okay,

1379
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna name three celebrities. You're gonna tell me

1380
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: which celebrity you would give which gift and why fun?

1381
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: Does that make perfect sense?

1382
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense.

1383
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: Okay. The three gifts you're giving away today are number

1384
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: one a high performance blender, so you know they charge

1385
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: a lot for the I feel like you can buy

1386
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: a blender for nine hundred dollars at this point. Number

1387
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: two an abundance, so just you know this, they'll have

1388
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: an abundance in their life, okay. And number three is

1389
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: a box of assorted dates, which I recently saw kind

1390
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: of a popular gift. Okay, you'll be giving them to

1391
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 3: Christian Bale, Ru Paul and Lily Rose Depp.

1392
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: Okay, coming, Okay, so you can I just repeat back

1393
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: to you of course. Okay. So blender, high performance, high performance,

1394
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: high end, high performance, box full of dates and abundance,

1395
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: and Lily Rose Depp, Christian Bale, and Rue Paul.

1396
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: Yes, what if that was the end of the game.

1397
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: I just needed you to remember.

1398
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, wow, my gut came in strong

1399
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: with abundance for Lily Rose Depp. Interesting because I feel

1400
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: I watched that very bad show that.

1401
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: She was on the Idol, the Idol.

1402
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: And the was very bad and kind of an embarrassment,

1403
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: and certainly I feel like in her personal life, there's

1404
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: been a lot of drama and she with her dad

1405
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: and all that, right, and I on this show was like,

1406
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: she's a I think she's just a good actor in

1407
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: the way, and I'm kind of rooting for her. So

1408
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm wishing her abundance so that she can kind of

1409
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: emerge from this weird period. And I don't know, Triumph,

1410
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: I want her to succeed.

1411
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: She's going to She's okay, good, She's absolutely going on

1412
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 3: to Christian Bale.

1413
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm going to give him the blender because I

1414
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: feel like he's always transforming for someone else. He's got

1415
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: to transform. Maybe that'll help make it easier for him

1416
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: or his loved ones to have to like support him

1417
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: because he's gonna I don't know what he's going to

1418
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: change into X but perfect.

1419
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: He's always on some diet.

1420
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: He's always on some diet, changing his body radically for

1421
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: a role, and no one asked him to no, And

1422
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: then I guess that leaves RuPaul with a box of dates.

1423
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: I think I would appreciate that also because Rue Paul

1424
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: loves a pun and like I feel like on Drag Race,

1425
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's all about the puns, and I feel

1426
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: like there could be something about like a box of dates,

1427
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: like I haven't had this many dates in my house

1428
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: since you finished that one.

1429
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think that's perfect. These are all perfect answers.

1430
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

1431
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: And you're saying that about Christian Bale reminds me that

1432
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: I recently learned that Woquin Phoenix was trying to lose

1433
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: weight for the Joker movie and ate an apple a

1434
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: day for like six months.

1435
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: That's all the end. So what are people doing? It

1436
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: is that that's that's not a diet, the apple diet.

1437
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: There are other things you can have one a day.

1438
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm having like a can of tunas. Yeah, that's so weird.

1439
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 3: I mean because the Joker was like a little looney.

1440
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: He was like what would he eat? I don't know,

1441
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: And again, who knows if that's true. I feel like

1442
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying a lot of things today.

1443
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: I definitely did. I definitely said I started talking about

1444
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: like cults and religious beliefs linked to cornflakes. I don't

1445
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: really don't. I'm really digging deep there and I don't

1446
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: know if it's real.

1447
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, everyone wins. You did an excellent job, and I

1448
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: have no complaints. This is the final segment of the podcast.

1449
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: It's called I Said No Emails. People write into I

1450
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 3: Said No gifts at gmail dot com. Questions galore. They're

1451
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: asking all kinds of things. Hopefully a lot of the

1452
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: time we have to tell them what type of gift

1453
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: to buy? Whatever? Will you read one with me?

1454
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love to.

1455
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 3: Okay, this is dearest Bridger and unnecessarily rude guest. Okay,

1456
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 3: perfect for you. I have been invited to the boss's

1457
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: house for Christmas gathering, and I am at a loss

1458
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: as to what to bring as a gift. I was

1459
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: always taught that you should never show up to a

1460
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: party empty handed, so the need to bring something is

1461
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 3: overwhelming me. For some backstory, I started a new job

1462
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: in August at an insurance company, having absolutely no prior

1463
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: experience whatsoever. I am very grateful for the position, but

1464
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: am somewhat uncomfortable with the invitation to said fancy party

1465
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 3: because this guy has more money than God. Oh interesting,

1466
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 3: mister insurance. Other than the obvious bottle of wine or

1467
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: box of chocolates, what can I bring that says thanks

1468
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: for the invite and the job without saying I'm paid

1469
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: too much? But also not enough. Oh the layers, Any

1470
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: and all advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for

1471
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: the explosion whatever if that was in the background. Yours forever, Jamie. Okay,

1472
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: so the first thing we should say is I think

1473
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: this episode comes out December twenty seventh. Okay, so Jamie's

1474
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: probably now out of a job. Sorry, a little too late,

1475
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 3: too little, too late from Bridgie.

1476
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: Jamie, what did you bring? However, a little late call

1477
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: in we need to know.

1478
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: But let's say maybe now Jamie has a full year

1479
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: till the full year till the next party, we could

1480
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: give him some hints as to what you buy for

1481
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 3: someone who you know has made up more money than

1482
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 3: God on insurance.

1483
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1484
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: What if we don't know anything about this boss other

1485
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 3: than the I guess they found Jamie in a gutter.

1486
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and the the the power dynamic is coming through

1487
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: very strong. Oh like I'm going to this very fancy party,

1488
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: and that this guy that the boss seems just towering

1489
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: over him. Right, But I was disappointed when he said

1490
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: like aside from the obvious bottle of wine, or because

1491
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: my first instinct would be like a nice food product

1492
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: or something, oh right, like a nice and elegant, like

1493
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: if there's like a local like an Italy or something

1494
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 2: like that, like a or a small place that makes

1495
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: like special cookies or something like that, like a bag

1496
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: of wet pasta, like a bit like a very heavy

1497
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: wet bag of cold pasta slathered in.

1498
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: No, I think that that's not a bad idea. I'm obviously.

1499
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want to bring too unique of

1500
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: a gift to this thing. Then you're standing out. You're

1501
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: putting your neck out there for the boss to chop.

1502
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: You want to bring something maybe that isn't wine or chocolates,

1503
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: but is a food thing.

1504
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: Right, because I feel like that's also like too personal.

1505
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: Is putting your neck out as you say, too personal?

1506
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: Like for a second, I was like an ornament and

1507
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's so embarrassing. Like no, then

1508
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: they like put what they're gonna put it on their

1509
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: personal tree from there to think about you. No, that's

1510
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: too personal.

1511
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, then the boss is like, does Jamie have a

1512
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: crush on me? It's Jamie like gunning for my job.

1513
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: And then the other thing we have to think about

1514
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: is that Jamie is complaining about their salary too much

1515
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 3: and also not enough. It's a Goldilocks.

1516
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: The too much part at the beginning is really interesting

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Speaker 2: to me.

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the salary here, Jamie. I mean, if

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna, you know, vaguely hint at your money, send

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: us the numbers.

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Just spit it out.

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to know. I want to know what

1523
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 3: people are the numbers.

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: I got to run some numbers here and figure out

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01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: what's going on.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: I can't answer this question unless I know your year's salary.

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01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, I think a nice little food gift

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: or well, actually I was going to say make something home,

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: but no, don't do that for your boss now.

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: No.

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: That then it's like the boss is gonna throw it away. Yes,

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01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: they're gonna think. I don't know Jamie well enough to

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: know what his or her or their kitchen is. It

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: could be filthy, covered in cat hair or something. So

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: don't make it at home, Jamie. Buy, as we've said

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: over and over, an ice cream cake shaped like a Turkey's.

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: You cannot lose with that. Show up with that.

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: Everyone will be screaming. It'll overshadow whatever whatever dessert the

1539
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 3: boss has thought of, and you'll be the star of

1540
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: the party or fired promoted all kinds of things gonna happen.

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: It'll spice things up at work, that's for sure.

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 3: Well, we answered Jamie's question more than perfectly and right

1543
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 3: on time. Jamie can't complain. You know, it's not my fault.

1544
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: You know, I get around to things when I get

1545
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: around to them, and you've just been dragged into a

1546
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: no choice of your own. I've had such a wonderful time.

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01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: With you, Grace. I just loved it.

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: I have this beautiful butter which I'll probably chop up

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: and put into a cookie at some point, and yeah,

1550
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: I'll leave it in the cupboard so it's soft. Although actually,

1551
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: how am I going to measure this?

1552
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: Does that tell you how much?

1553
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: How many ounces it is or something?

1554
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: How much each feather?

1555
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: Maybe tick a feather is a teaspoon. Wonderful time with you.

1556
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to finally meet you.

1557
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: Likewise, you were.

1558
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 3: Not a disappointment, and you could have easily been.

1559
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's true.

1560
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here and listener, go

1561
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 3: buy Emily's book and listener. It's the end of the podcast.

1562
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: It's the end of the year. Everything's coming to a

1563
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 3: screeching halt. You've got to figure it out. You've got

1564
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: a few minutes, the ball's gonna drop. Who knows what time?

1565
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: Turn on Dick.

1566
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: Clark or whoever. Well, it's certainly not Dick Clark. Impressive

1567
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: if you can, because if you're seeing.

1568
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got a special ability A The podcast is over.

1569
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 3: Let's fly into a new year with all of our love.

1570
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye, I said, no gifts is ant

1571
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson,

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't

1573
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

1574
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.

1575
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said

1576
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1577
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 3: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1578
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1579
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: of the gifts.

1580
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1581
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: But you're I guess to my home.

1582
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests,

1583
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me