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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello

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Speaker 1: work in progress, smarties. Today I am joined by not one,

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Speaker 1: but two of my favorite funny gals. Today's guests are

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Speaker 1: Tig Nataro and Stephanie Allen. They are incredible comedians. You

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Speaker 1: likely know Tig from being a brilliant stand up She's

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Speaker 1: also an amazing writer, radio contributor, actress, even though you'll

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Speaker 1: hear today why she's not super comfortable wearing the moniker

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Speaker 1: of actor and a wonderful director and producer.

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Speaker 2: And along with her.

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Speaker 1: Wife Stephanie, who is a genius improv comedian and a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal writer and director in her own right, she is

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Speaker 1: here to talk about the movie that they co directed,

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Speaker 1: Am I Okay, starring Dakota Johnson. This movie is so

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Speaker 1: funny and so poignant, you guys, not just to me

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Speaker 1: but given the last year of my life, but I

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Speaker 1: think will be to all of you. It follows Lucy

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Speaker 1: and Jane, who are the best of friends. They finish

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Speaker 1: each other's sentences, they can predict every detail of each

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Speaker 1: other's food order and pretty much know everything about each other.

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Speaker 1: But when Jane gets promoted at work and agrees to

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Speaker 1: move to London for her new position, Lucy finally confesses

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Speaker 1: her deepest, long held secret.

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Speaker 2: She likes women.

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Speaker 1: She has for a long time, and she's sort of

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Speaker 1: shocked and sort of terrified by this later in life revelation.

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Speaker 1: The film is actually based on the friendship between writer

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Speaker 1: Lauren Palmerants and producer Jessica Albam, who took their sister

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Speaker 1: Leavon to the screen to showcase the many life defining

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Speaker 1: friendships shared by women, and it felt like the right

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Speaker 1: opportunity for Tig and Stephanie to co direct this movie.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie directed Tig's most recent stand up special, Hello Again,

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Speaker 1: And today I get to pick their brains about what

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Speaker 1: it's like to work together as a married couple, why

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Speaker 1: the tropes about working with your spouse are just not

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Speaker 1: true for them, how much fun they had making this movie,

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Speaker 1: how amazing Dakota Johnson and all the other actors in

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Speaker 1: it were to work with, and what it was like

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Speaker 1: to be on the journey of getting this film out

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Speaker 1: into the world for five years. It's finally here, it's perfect,

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Speaker 1: it's on Max, You're gonna love it. And as a bonus,

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Speaker 1: of course, I get to ask these two about their

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Speaker 1: love story. It involves a sweater from Canada, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're really going to enjoy the details. Well, hello ladies. Tig,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to work in progress. Stephanie welcome. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy to have you both here today.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So normally I love to kind of sit with people

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Speaker 1: who are doing really exciting things in their lives and

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Speaker 1: careers and start in a big rewind and ask a

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Speaker 1: little bit about whether or not from this sort of

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Speaker 1: seat you sit in today you see similarities to your

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Speaker 1: current self and your childhood self, Like if you looked

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Speaker 1: back at yourself at eight or nine, were you telling stories,

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Speaker 1: telling jokes or were you a completely different kid? And Stephanie,

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Speaker 1: since it's your first time in the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to you first. I feel like a news anchor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's funny. I feel like in recent years I

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Speaker 5: feel more connected to how I felt as a kid,

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Speaker 5: which I feel is a very good thing and it's

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Speaker 5: kind of taking me a long route back to that feeling.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like the I feel like as a kid,

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Speaker 5: I really felt, you know, as all kids do, like

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Speaker 5: you know what you love and you know and you're

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Speaker 5: just confident in it, and I feel I do feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that because you can sort of create a world,

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Speaker 1: and that's something where we do so easily when our children.

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Speaker 5: And it's like you know what you like and you

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Speaker 3: You just go, oh, I think this looks good.

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Speaker 5: I like this line, I like this, and you just

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Speaker 3: And it feels very childlike to me. It feels very free.

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Speaker 1: The like feeling I get in my chest as you're

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Speaker 1: To operate on that level of instinct to always go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're in the present. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: It's more just like, oh, this is fun. That was good.

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Speaker 1: Is a very different feeling from like say, going on

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Speaker 5: Well, I do improv, and so I feel like that

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Speaker 5: take doing stand up and it's like, oh, what are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're going to do one of those

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Speaker 1: our friends at home, Stephanie's directing like you've had to

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's just sort of happening, like magic

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Speaker 1: does the Prepper?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Were you were you a preparer as a kid too?

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Speaker 3: Yet? Was I a prepare? No?

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Speaker 4: God, oh my god, what I was like?

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, disorganized, class clown, failed eighth grade twice,

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Speaker 4: moved up to ninth grade. Failed that dropped out. My

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Speaker 4: apartments were a mess. I just it was not. No.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's such an example of when you

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Speaker 4: follow who you really are, everything falls into place. And

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Speaker 4: when I started doing stand up, that taught me my

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Speaker 4: passion for stand up taught me life skills that I

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Speaker 4: fact that that was parlayed into an actual career that

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Speaker 4: And that all goes back to just figuring out who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting thing right when I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there's so much pressure in society to kind of like

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Speaker 2: Maybe it won't be so hard and like nobody's ever really.

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Speaker 1: Encouraged us to go, Like, maybe stop pushing the rock

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Speaker 1: see what's over there. Yeah, maybe you're supposed to be

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Speaker 4: Let's see what happens when the rocks.

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Speaker 1: That might be the place where everything begins, everything that's

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Speaker 1: really for you anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I feel like, especially in like teenage high

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Speaker 5: I was in every activity, like every sport, like really

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people get stuck in that other version.

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Speaker 1: So did you each know that being an artist would

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Speaker 2: Or did it happen? Did it just happen and surprise.

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Speaker 4: I had a desk. I rented a space in my

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Speaker 4: I thought it was all over. Everything was all over.

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Speaker 2: And what about you, Stephanie? When you dropped out? What happened?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think prior to dropping out, I thought it

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Speaker 3: Very random. I still feel like I'm very random in

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Speaker 2: Do we ever get over that feeling.

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Speaker 3: Though of it being random?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, Like what we do is so

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Speaker 1: But every single time I just finished this movie, went

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Speaker 1: So you had a date in Utah.

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Speaker 2: It's a magical place.

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Speaker 4: We had exchanged numbers because, like I had, we when

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like we weren't the We're not those types

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Speaker 1: First of all, I own one of those sweaters maybe

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Speaker 1: You know, we followed Dakota Johnson as a woman who's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just like, hold the phone.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole group of us that clearly needs to

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Speaker 1: Maybe I just get to like who I like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this movie. I love this movie.

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Speaker 4: No, it feels so natural. Stephanie and I I feel

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Speaker 4: days that are rough at home.

443
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Speaker 1: Well, it's really interesting because like that sort of hard

444
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, I think it's such an aha

445
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: when you realize that, like there's constructive hard and then

446
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: there's like torture hard and constructive heart is pretty cool

447
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: because you're building something together. And like the whole time

448
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: you were answering that question, the image that kept coming

449
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: to my mind, was like the way bees build a

450
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: beehive and the honeycomb, and like the group project that

451
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: requires flow, like you're talking about, and when you have

452
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: flow as an artist, I think it can make you

453
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: feel so creative and so free. And if you manage

454
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: to create flow in a family with you two as

455
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: a unit and with your children, and like you're you're

456
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: building something that's greater than the summer of its parts.

457
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: And how totally cool you get to do that together.

458
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: I feel lucky. But what if we threw it to

459
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: Stephanie now and she's like, it's a living.

460
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: What they talk about.

461
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: She's like, well, it's really interesting.

462
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: She gets very she's a nightmare.

463
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: One nightmare.

464
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: Get this woman her order from craft service quickly.

465
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

466
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 5: I think Tick and I have that in common truly

467
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: across the board, and we I think other people pointed

468
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: out to us, and then that's how we kind of

469
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: were like, oh, yeah, we really don't think about that

470
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 5: or care about that, or we were not worried about that.

471
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: That's sort of like grasping energy. I don't think either

472
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: of us have.

473
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 4: That's really cool, like a desperate panic anything. I think

474
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: it's unnerving to some people that were like we're going

475
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: to whatever. Yeah, we're gonna do our best. We hope

476
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: this works out. We hope this comes out. We hope

477
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: this and that and if not, onto the next thing.

478
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: You know, I don't feel like we both have that

479
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 4: clinging to things in a panic. It has to happen

480
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: like this. It's like you have to remain fluid, I

481
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: mean through all of it.

482
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this, this circus we all work in

483
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: is so bizarre. You kind of have to hold everything

484
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: with an open hand. Otherwise you're like punching yourself in

485
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: the face with a closed fit.

486
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 6: You know.

487
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: I know I always tell people what I remember. Well,

488
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't have to go into the example, but just

489
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: I always think about everybody's trying to get in the

490
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: front door. Everybody is in a long line just trying

491
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: to get in that front door. And it's like okay,

492
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: well or see if there's a back door, or maybe

493
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: go see if you can open the window or wait. Yeah,

494
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: but whatever it is, it's like, people get in this

495
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: like we got to do this, we got it. This

496
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 4: is the way to go, this is how we have

497
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: to do it. And it's like eh, or yeah, head home.

498
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: This other thing another day, or yeah, see if a

499
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 4: window opens.

500
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you have excellent blood pressure. It's just nice. Yeah,

501
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: your doctor must be like, well done.

502
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 4: No, my doctor is like, are you alive? Yeah? My

503
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: blood pressure runs so low, which got me into many,

504
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: many terrible medical situations. Oh, dear, but I think I'm

505
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: but yes, you're alive. I'm alive. I'm alive.

506
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Thankfully you are here.

507
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors that I really

508
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: enjoy and I think you will too.

509
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Was it an interesting thing? Because I read a little bit.

510
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: About how, you know, the the merger with like the

511
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: studio was happening, and you'd made this movie, and was

512
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: it gonna come out?

513
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Was it not?

514
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: We've got all these weird people who don't seem to

515
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: care about movies, who run movies tod now, who like

516
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: throw movies away for tax write offs, which is crushing

517
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: for us artistic humans. And now here it is like

518
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: it's it's coming, It's arrived. It's wonderful. How long, because

519
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: I do think people at home don't know how long

520
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: this stuff takes, Like, how long did it take from

521
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: beginning to do this to finally it's June twenty twenty four,

522
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: and this movie's coming out on HBO.

523
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: Max.

524
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: I think we signed on to the project in twenty nineteen,

525
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, and then we were about to start

526
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: shooting right before the pandemic. And then we were one

527
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 5: of the first projects up and running in twenty twenty

528
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 5: one where we were like in masks and shields and

529
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: you know, before the vaccine and then and then it

530
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: went to Sundance, and then it was two years after

531
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: it went to Sundance in twenty twenty two, and so

532
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: now it's been two years since then.

533
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: I know, I'm saying this definitely much. I think about

534
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: when you see award shows and somebody's accepting an award

535
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: and they're like, I just want to thank this person

536
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: for believing in the film. This took us ten years

537
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: to get here involved, and I would sit at home thinking,

538
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 4: why did it take them ten years? You're doing yeah,

539
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: and you don't understand that it's a game of Djenga.

540
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: You get an actor and then it falls apart and

541
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: their schedule of moves, and then you lose a tax credit,

542
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: and then you have to go from La to New Jersey.

543
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: There's just a million different things they're financing falls through

544
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: and it's just an ongoing game of djengo.

545
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: It really really is.

546
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: It's like it reminds me of that Carnival game where

547
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: like the guy has all those solo cups and one

548
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: of them has a ball on it and you're just

549
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where the ball's going.

550
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally manic.

551
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: And people would always like ask us, like when's am

552
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: I okay coming out? Where's am I okay? And it's

553
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 5: like we don't let us know. Yeah, we have no clue.

554
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: But also why isn't it called am I okay.

555
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: Or am i gay?

556
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Is it too late?

557
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Like the cover artists just turn it around for you.

558
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: Or it's the eye when it comes out in Ireland

559
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 4: it can be am I okay, okay? Apologies, you know.

560
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: And then oh and then the bottom of the question

561
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: mark is a teeny diny little four leaf clover. That's right,

562
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: that's correct, It's I love it, is it? I have

563
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: a question for you too, because this is something I

564
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: find sort of fascinating. And Stephanie, I don't know if

565
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: you experienced this, but like I watched Jane ask Lucy

566
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: in the movie, like you really didn't have any thoughts

567
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: about this or like how long have you felt this way?

568
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: You didn't have any sort of inkling And they have

569
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: such great chemistry, like they're such beautiful intimacy and their friendship,

570
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: and I think the notion of platonic chemistry can confuse

571
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: some people. And I definitely had a moment where I

572
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: was like, I guess maybe I thought the pool of

573
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: like women that I liked versus like your earlier point men,

574
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: was just smaller. And I was like, I don't mean

575
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: this to sound insane, but like, look at all my friends,

576
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Like they're hot, they're brilliant, like they're so amazing, and

577
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I've never wanted to like sleep with any of them.

578
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: And then one of my guy friends was like, well, yeah,

579
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: but straight guys always try to sleep with all their

580
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: female friends, so like is that maybe why you think that?

581
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, huh, that's really right.

582
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: It's really super interesting because I do think like when

583
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: you have your best friends as a woman, like you

584
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: love each other. Like I am in platonic love with

585
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: my best friends for sure, Yeah, but like it's such

586
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: a different situation and like knowing that you know a

587
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of straight dudes run studios, I'm like, did someone

588
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: never try to pitch to you that Lucy would admit

589
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: that she was in love with Jane, Like did you

590
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: have to fight that battle to be like, no, that

591
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: is her best friend, that is not the person she's

592
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: interested in, or or did people get it and leave

593
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: the story.

594
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: B I think people got that, Okay.

595
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Goods Well.

596
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: I do feel like there were early conversations of wanting

597
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: to define it. I don't think anybody was like forcing

598
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: an agenda, but I think there were a lot of

599
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 5: conversations of like, well, what are are they falling in

600
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: love with each other?

601
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: Are they not? If they're not, then they're not.

602
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: And I think we always were like it doesn't matter,

603
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: they're friends, Like I.

604
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: Don't even remember that. I'm embarrassed.

605
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: It's very open hand, yes, but.

606
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: I think even that is like, no, they are best friends,

607
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: and that we don't want to like put a scene

608
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: in that's going like see they're definitely friends, or a

609
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 5: scene where it's like, oh they might be you know,

610
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 5: It's like it is what you're saying, they're friends, and

611
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: there's a lot of intimacy and we I think girls

612
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 5: do that they like have they sleep in the same bed,

613
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 5: very platonically and it's there's never it never crosses their

614
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: mind and they can be really physically close and that's

615
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: that's like a joy. And so that's what I mean,

616
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 5: that's what their friendship is in the movie.

617
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

618
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's such a special thing to

619
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: show people what healthy intimacy looks like in every form

620
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: between friends, between lovers. Like it's it's really really just refreshing.

621
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I know all of these people, uh huh.

622
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also nice to see a movie about

623
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: women in their thirties who don't have everything figured out.

624
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I love that you've.

625
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: Created something in that space between like the teen TV

626
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: shows so many of us grew up doing and then

627
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: like playing the mom on the teen TV show, which

628
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: is fun, but right, like, there's this whole juicy section

629
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: of our lives that.

630
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 7: I don't feel like we get as much content about, yeah,

631
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 7: and where people feel confused and they are in a

632
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 7: gray zone and they also feel really young and this

633
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 7: sort of like idea to advance that or you know,

634
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 7: like I don't know, I think we were both really

635
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 7: drawn to that part of it, that it was someone

636
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 7: in their thirties.

637
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: And maybe not everybody has their dream job yet or

638
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: maybe not. Everybody is in the right relationship and is

639
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: going through the moment where they have to start over

640
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: it all. It all felt really really Yeah, refreshing is

641
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: the word that I keep kind of coming back to.

642
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: That's so nice.

643
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, something that we just screened it at NewFest in

644
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 5: New York and something that came up during that, which

645
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: I also feel like is an important piece of it.

646
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 5: It's just that it's like, in terms of the friendship,

647
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 5: it's like, this is her best friend who she tells

648
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: everything to, and she has to come out to her too,

649
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: you know, and that's like just as hard. And I

650
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 5: feel like, aside from whether it be sexuality, when you

651
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 5: want to change something in your life, whether it's career,

652
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: a relationship, the way you dress, your house, color, the

653
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: color palette you like, and anything but those things, I

654
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: feel like people in your life, whether it's family members, friends,

655
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: they often sometimes don't want you to change, and there's

656
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: this pressure to be like, well, that's not you. What

657
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 5: are you wearing that's not you?

658
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

659
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: You like that now?

660
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 5: And there's this sort of attitude of like how dare

661
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 5: you change? And so I think it keeps people like

662
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 5: in these decisions that they made really young and there,

663
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: and it just.

664
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Speaker 3: Go, oh, that's me.

665
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 5: That's how I dress, that's what I like, that's what

666
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 5: I do. Yeah, the career I chose, and so I

667
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: have to. And I think the beauty of this is

668
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: that you're like, if you don't like it anymore, that's

669
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: what humans do. We evolve, we change, and you should

670
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: and the people around you should go cool.

671
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: What are you into now?

672
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

673
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: And that was the relation. The friendship needed to evolve

674
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: in that way.

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

676
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: To be loved by people who want you to know

677
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: yourself better and better, yeah, I think is the greatest gift.

678
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: And and it's a really interesting thing. This theme has

679
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: come up so much lately. I like, I literally have goosebumps.

680
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm wearing pants, so I can't demonstrate, but I.

681
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: I'm like kicking a leg.

682
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: But it's a friend of mine said to me recently.

683
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Anybody who rejects a happier or more evolved version of

684
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you never really wanted you to be happy in the

685
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: first place.

686
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: They liked you being small.

687
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

688
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: And it's like, so to have somebody who will look

689
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: at you and say, like, anything that makes you more

690
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: fulfilled happier, any any change you go through that has

691
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: you sleeping better, like I'm here for it, and that

692
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: I think is really really important to show people as well.

693
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's cool to be in that curiosity. It's

694
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: cool to go God like, I'm being drawn to this

695
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: for some reason and yeah, oh, I wonder why this

696
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: is speaking to me right now. And to just have

697
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: your friends going like, huh.

698
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: That's interesting, you know, yeah, yeah, and talking about it

699
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 6: making a movie like this, especially when you know you

700
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 6: get pandemic delayed and as you said, Tig like the

701
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 6: Jenga pieces are moving around so much.

702
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Did the delays give you, guys, you know, as directors

703
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: with your writers, because I know Lauren wrote it, but

704
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: it's based on her real life friendship right with her

705
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: best friend Jessica, who's a producer. Did that give the

706
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: four of you and then Dakota opportunities to just sit

707
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: and do versions of this, to like and talk about relationships,

708
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, over meals while you were waiting or were

709
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: you like, Okay, well, while this is delayed, we'll all

710
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: go do these other projects and like, hopefully remember the

711
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: details of this when we come back.

712
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: I think we were really ready to go and then

713
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 5: and we had I think we had yes. I think

714
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: the first part we had tons of time to discuss

715
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 5: everything and to really have time with Lauren, have time

716
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 5: with da Code, have time with all the cast. And

717
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: then once it was like into COVID and it was

718
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 5: shutting down, I.

719
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: Think everybody was scared.

720
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: Like I think the cod the reality of COVID was

721
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: a very different vibe.

722
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Would you feel that way through?

723
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

724
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: How did you guys manage to navigate that because coming

725
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: back to work in twenty twenty one, as you mentioned,

726
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, for our friends at home, it was a

727
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: very scary time. You know, the testing protocols on sets

728
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: were really rigorous. There were departments that were never allowed

729
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: to interact with each other. You know, sets are sort

730
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: of like being in the circus, like everybody's working on

731
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: this crazy project and performance together, and suddenly, during the pandemic,

732
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: the height of it, the experience was very bifurcated among

733
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: all the departments. So were there changes you had to make,

734
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: were there people you had to take, you know, out

735
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: of scenes, or were you sort of able to work

736
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: around most of what was on the page and keep

737
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: it feeling the same on screen.

738
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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I can't remember specifics, but

739
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: I do feel like things had to shift because of COVID,

740
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to think of what that was exactly,

741
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: don't you feel. Yeah, we had casts.

742
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: That we lost that we had to shift because you

743
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: could only kind of be on one if you were

744
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: shooting in another city, and you couldn't you couldn't go

745
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: back and forth with the different sets.

746
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't. Even even if you were in LA

747
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: you couldn't work on right.

748
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we did recast for people that had conflicts

749
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 5: with other things. And then it's also just a weird

750
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 5: way to go about filmmaking because that you're in like

751
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: little pods of who you're you can talk to, you know.

752
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 5: So there's like the crew and then there's like the writer, director, producers,

753
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: and then the actors, and so we did we had

754
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 5: to communicate a lot through like our assistant director who

755
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: was you know, with the actors and giving notes over

756
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: you know, speaker, which feels not ideal. So that the

757
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: sort of like that thing that's so great on set

758
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: of everybody kind of being really together and intimate, we

759
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: lost that. And I think that's what's such a massive

760
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: testament to Sonoya and to because they were able to really.

761
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: Convey that in.

762
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 5: A situation where they were like separated and masked, you know,

763
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 5: until they were shooting.

764
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did such a phenomenal job. Yeah, it's so

765
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: fun to watch it in front of a live audience

766
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: here in New York a couple of nights ago. It

767
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: was explosive, Like the laughter and the tears and the

768
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 4: energy was so so much filling the room. It was

769
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: really exciting to all these years later land in that

770
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: theater and get that response, especially when it seemed like

771
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: the movie went away. Yeah, and so it was. It was.

772
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: It was a nice, a nice evening, to say the least.

773
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you guys got to have that. Yeah,

774
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: and now a word from our wonderful sponsors.

775
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: One of the things I enjoyed so much, And it's

776
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: interesting to think about you guys having to do this

777
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: again at the you know, sort of height of masking

778
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: and and all of that strange separation on set.

779
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: Like one of the things I.

780
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Really love that you did so much of in this

781
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: movie is you let their looks and reactions to each

782
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: other communicate a lot, not just the dialogue. And one

783
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: of the things I've found historically, you know, on some

784
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: of the TV that I've worked on, which you know,

785
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I love a show because you get to week after.

786
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 2: Week discover someone.

787
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: But when you have to fit into that you know,

788
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: perfect timing so they can stick the commercials where they

789
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: want to, you lose a lot of that air. You

790
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: lose like looks before someone says something or whatever because

791
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to get.

792
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: It for time.

793
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: And I always am really taken aback in a good

794
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: way when I get to watch people have the air

795
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: to see each other and get all their little visual

796
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: reactions in around the words that they're speaking. And I

797
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: thought the chemistry between them in their looks and their

798
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: physical comedy and responses to each other was so excellent.

799
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: And it's wild to think that they managed to do

800
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: all of that and communicate all of that when they

801
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: had to mostly be separated when the cameras weren't rolling.

802
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, And.

803
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: Then that is so nice to hear because I feel

804
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: like that.

805
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: I just I love actors so much, and I feel

806
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: like when movies used to take their time and just

807
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 5: the pacing was really slow, it was like it's like

808
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 5: so beautiful to get to watch actors for like those

809
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 5: longer spaces, and not that this movie is long in

810
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 5: any way, but it's just that was certainly a goal.

811
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: It's so nice to hear.

812
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: It definitely doesn't feel long. It just feels like it's breathing. Yeah,

813
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like I'm watching people live life.

814
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: On one point five X.

815
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: It's very, very lovely to be in the world that

816
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: you made. And just as an you know, native Angelina,

817
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: I also was thrilled to see the one zero one

818
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: cafe in scenes.

819
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's.

820
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 5: Home, which actually, by the way, that was a benefit

821
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 5: of COVID. It's all of those places we shot at

822
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 5: we could not do. We couldn't we didn't have the

823
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 5: budget for that, and they couldn't close those down and

824
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 5: for permits or whatever. And then when we shot during COVID,

825
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: everyone was like, please come in here, you know, he's

826
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: with shut everything was closed, so we like got to

827
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: really shoot in those types of places.

828
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: That's so cool and it's interesting. Like when you say

829
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: I love actors so much, I do too. I just

830
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I love I love everyone in our funny little family

831
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: who shows up and is like, hey, let me be

832
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: as vulnerable as possible all of these strangers and equipment and.

833
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: See how it goes and like and then take.

834
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: I find it's so funny because you'll talk about how

835
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't identify as an actor like I

836
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: did a spittake when you recently were like, could you

837
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: imagine if they cut to me like at the saga words?

838
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, I'm an actor.

839
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Stoup, Like what why do you think that that feels

840
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: weird for you? Because you are like a comedian, an actor,

841
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: a director or producer, a writer, like you're very good

842
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: at this.

843
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Why do you think that term feels so like?

844
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh, well, I just I mean I very much am

845
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: a stand up comedian that stumbled into this because my

846
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 4: friends had TV shows, and Zach Galafanakis was the first

847
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: person that hired me to act on his TV series

848
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: that he had years ago, and it just kind of

849
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: kept happening, and I kept thinking like, oh, this is

850
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: a weird little thing I'm going to do for a

851
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: few episodes and then I'll be back to stand up.

852
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: And of course I did always go back to stand up,

853
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: but then the acting kept happening, and I think I

854
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: just feel like an impostor. It's like, I'm on the

855
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: season three of the Morning Show and my childhood friend,

856
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: who I've known since I was five, she calls me

857
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: leaves a message saying, Okay, so I'm sitting here watching

858
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: you in a scene with John Hamm and Jennifer Aniston,

859
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: and I'm just thinking to myself, how the hell did

860
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 4: this happen? You know, it's nobody. When I was growing up,

861
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: I was never like, oh my god, I want to

862
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: be an actor. But I think I just identify as

863
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: a comedian and I get acting gigs sometimes and I

864
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 4: appreciate them tremendously, and I have so Stephanie makes fun

865
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: of me because I have so much fun acting, not

866
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: necessarily acting, but hanging out with people on set, you

867
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: know where. She'll call and she's like, oh, are you

868
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: making are you making new friends? And I'm like yeah.

869
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: The people that take like they stay in character, they

870
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: listen to music, They're like very into the scene they're doing,

871
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 5: they know where, you know, all of that stuff. Tig

872
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 5: is like at having snacks, going.

873
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: Like, oh where are you from?

874
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just like, uh, like a little social butterfly

875
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 4: on set, just wanting to hang out and chat and

876
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: get to know everyone. And so when people ask if

877
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: I enjoy acting, I say I do, but it's really

878
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: it's the people that I'm connecting with on set that

879
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: that's making it enjoyable.

880
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: You share the one thing you often do on set

881
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: that you yell out? Which one the one that I

882
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 5: the one that you will yell out to like a

883
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: director in between takes.

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if this will come across I just like,

885
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: because I don't avoid, because I love it, because I

886
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 4: this is of course, after I've kind of established myself

887
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: and relationships on set and people understand my personality for

888
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: the most part, one of my favorite things is just

889
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: to randomly yell out I'm bored, are like, what is that?

890
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: Is that?

891
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: During setup time or like mid take?

892
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, just any time great, you know. But also when

893
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: a director is coming towards me with a note, oftentimes

894
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: I would say ninety five percent of the time I

895
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 4: stop them and I say, before you say anything, just

896
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: know that I have no range. Okay, what what were

897
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: you going to say? But everything I do, it's I

898
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: always say, it's Tig in a police uniform, Tig in space.

899
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: Tig you know, is the fix It guy on the

900
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: Morning show, and it's just, you know, I I but

901
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 4: I do. I enjoy it. I just feel like an

902
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 4: impostor saying I'm an actor.

903
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're doing pretty well at it.

904
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: Well, thank you.

905
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you.

906
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 3: You're an actor.

907
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: You're an actor.

908
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm a comedian taking on actor jobs.

909
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: You're a multi hyphenet.

910
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: Is that I guess?

911
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: So?

912
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you it could be upcoming projects. It could

913
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Speaker 1: be I don't know, making a model of the universe

914
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: with the kids for a science fair. I have no idea.

915
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: But what when you look ahead at your summer and

916
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: through the rest of the year, feels like you're work

917
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: in progress. Now, now that the movie's coming out.

918
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Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like just across the board.

919
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: What is always a work in progress for me is

920
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: maintaining everything I have. You know, I always talk to

921
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: Stephanie about I'm not in what I'm doing to take

922
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: over the world or Hollywood or anything like that. I

923
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: want to maintain my marriage, my family life, my connection

924
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: with my children and my friends. And I want to

925
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: keep working. I want to stay on my health. I

926
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 4: want to I just I that's really an ongoing work

927
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: in progress for me, and I think that's every year,

928
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 4: every summer, everything for me.

929
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I also like want to have what we have,

930
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 5: keep having what we're having. But I feel like for

931
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: me right now, it's really keeping my brain and body

932
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 5: in like a space of openness and creativity because I

933
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: can feel the world sometimes the world where you're like, oh,

934
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: I got to do all these things and you're you're

935
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 5: just not in flow.

936
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Speaker 3: And for me, I.

937
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 5: Feel like the more I can stay in that space,

938
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: the better I feel.

939
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, keep the flow going.

940
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that a lot.

941
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would be remiss not before I let

942
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: you both go to talk about your podcast take because

943
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: clearly we're on a podcast, and I will say our

944
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: work in progress audience is both smart and funny, and

945
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: Handsome really feels like a zone for smart, funny people.

946
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: So can you tell our little whip smart audience a

947
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: little bit about what you and Fortune themest are and

948
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: May Martin do together.

949
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty much just NonStop ridiculousness. It is our

950
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: weekly podcast, Handsome. We get questions from our guests and

951
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: we just chit chat about it and it's it's Yeah,

952
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: We've gotten a really great response from our listeners in

953
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: the world around us. So it's really fun. And if

954
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: anybody's curious to hear some nonsense, check out the Handsome podcast.

955
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: I would call it wise nonsense.

956
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: And I would also like to say I don't host

957
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: your podcast, but I am a fan and I get

958
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: a great response because I wear the little cowboy hat

959
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: every time I fly.

960
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think is adorable and I.

961
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: Love to flyind a baseball cap and the number of

962
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: people in the airport who stop me to be like,

963
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: I really like your hat, and I'm like, hey, have

964
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: you heard of this podcast? And people will be like,

965
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: is it yours? And I'm like, no, I actually have

966
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: a different podcast, but my friends do this one and

967
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: they're hilarious, and so you should subscribe to both.

968
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

969
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: You've made me very popular at LAX.

970
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: Oh good. Well, it's my pleasure.

971
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: So thank you for the show and the merch.

972
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah, thanks for getting the hat.

973
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you both so much for joining me today.

974
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: Thank you for making am I okay. It's so much

975
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: fun and congrats, thank you thanks for having me