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Speaker 2: merely Bo the great z down in country Roads, Take

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Speaker 2: me home and you gotta You had yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a practice this morning, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did today.

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Speaker 5: They were in shells and this really felt like the

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Speaker 5: first official day of training camp.

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Speaker 4: They got afked it. We get two seven on seven periods.

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Speaker 5: We got a full speed eleven on eleven period which

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Speaker 5: is something I don't really think we've seen yet this season,

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Speaker 5: and certainly not at this training camp.

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Speaker 4: So it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a great day, a lot of good work.

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Speaker 5: I saw a lot of great things from the offense,

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Speaker 5: a lot of good things from the defense as well,

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Speaker 5: especially down in the red zone. I thought the defense

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Speaker 5: had a great day down in the red zone. There

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Speaker 5: was a lot of chirpin', there was a lot of intensity.

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Speaker 5: It was fun. There was some fun football actually here,

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Speaker 5: and now you get a day off.

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Speaker 4: You felt like everybody kind of went their beat.

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Speaker 5: They got a day off tomorrow, back in the Shells Thursday,

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Speaker 5: and then Pat's Friday Saturday. So it's starting to ramp

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Speaker 5: up as we're here, you know, nine days away from

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Speaker 5: the preseason opener. But today was was a big day

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Speaker 5: and I got good notes, so we can run through

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Speaker 5: all the different periods and highlight everybody that stood out today.

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Speaker 4: But solid day of work. Watson had a lot of

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Speaker 4: nice throws.

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Speaker 5: The defenses, I said, made a lot of nice plays,

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Speaker 5: and it just was It was fun to see some

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Speaker 5: of the little wrinkles that are going to be in

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Speaker 5: this offense this year that are different than what we

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Speaker 5: have seen in the past.

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Speaker 2: There's there's always a moment in camp where you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now we're on.

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Speaker 4: That was today.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm getting, those sense that that was today.

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Speaker 2: You know the way that this this has all changed

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Speaker 2: in recent years in terms of an approach to camp

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Speaker 2: and with the new CBA and and easing into things

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Speaker 2: and ramping up. We use those words all the time,

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Speaker 2: but this this one as listening to you is very

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Speaker 2: clearly that day when you're like, Okay, it's it's time

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Speaker 2: for football season. We've got to get some real work in.

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Speaker 2: When you said that, it's it doesn't register because it

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Speaker 2: seems impossible. But yeah, nine days to the preseason opener,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna be playing a football game in nine days.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the guys we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: today aren't going to be playing in that game. But

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Speaker 2: the bottom roster guys are not going to get a

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Speaker 2: bigger opportunity perhaps than that one to showcase what their

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Speaker 2: what their abilities are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna get a lot of work in that

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Speaker 5: preseason opener. And there are guys that we'll talk about

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Speaker 5: today that really did stand out to me. That will

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Speaker 5: be guys that you will see in that Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame game. But yeah, today was the day where it changed.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how you feel about it, Gibe,

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Speaker 5: but like the intensity of two once we got into

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Speaker 5: the first seven on seven was already more than anything

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Speaker 5: we had seen out here at the Greenbrier. And I mean,

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Speaker 5: the truth be told, yesterday was the first day they

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Speaker 5: defense and everything was you know, fifty percent, so obviously

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Speaker 5: it changed, but it just felt like both sides wanted

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Speaker 5: to make a little bit of a statement. I thought

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Speaker 5: the offense came out very strong in the first seven

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Speaker 5: that red zone seven on seven, the offense certainly had

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Speaker 5: to Shawn through a couple of beautiful ones. But they

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Speaker 5: also had a lot of PBUs and some great coverage,

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Speaker 5: and there was a lot of chatter, a lot of chatter,

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Speaker 5: and it's gonna be fun because there are good groups

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Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. This is the most

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Speaker 5: talented roster we've been around, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 5: And and there are a lot of guys and I

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Speaker 5: his attitude and intensity, you know, his disposition. They're taking

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Speaker 5: a lot of that on whereas you know, it's different

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Speaker 5: and there's there are many many ways, you know, as

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Speaker 5: they say, to skin a cap, but I think that

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Speaker 5: for this group and this team and this talent, this

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Speaker 5: feels like a very good match. And you really saw

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Speaker 5: kind of a different attitude and focus out of that

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Speaker 5: defense and just kind of demeanor, as it were, a

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Speaker 2: He has a presence Jim does oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it's noticeable. It was noticeable the first, you know,

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Speaker 2: Everybody remembers him chirping at Harball when he was with

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Speaker 2: So there there has been. He has that in him.

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Speaker 2: There's a fire that burns pretty hot inside of him.

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Speaker 2: And if it's coming out in the players, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Who are ring leaders on the chirping. Who are some

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Speaker 2: of the guys we're having a good time.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: One of the real highlights of the day in the

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Speaker 5: final period in the seven on seven there was uh

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Speaker 5: domin People's Jones ran a ridiculous route for a touchdown

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Speaker 5: working against Greg Newsom and Amari, who was not participating

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Speaker 5: in practice. Today was just letting him have it because

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Speaker 5: two plays before that Greg had made great plays and

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Speaker 5: was talking a lot of smack. And then so that

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Speaker 5: one happened, uh there with DPJ, and so then Amari

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Speaker 5: so they were screaming and it was funny when they

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Speaker 5: started talking. Tomari turned around and acted like he was like,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he was genuinely do this, but it was

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Speaker 5: just convenient time. He turned around and was coaching some

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Speaker 5: of the guys on their releases and they're like, turn

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Speaker 5: around to you got to face the music too, And

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Speaker 5: there are some great you would have loved it.

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Speaker 4: There was some great cut cut.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of cuts at the end at

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Speaker 5: some of the burns, which was right out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like he was here. There was a

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Speaker 4: lot of cut. Do you like that cut?

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Speaker 5: So there was some good stuff. Yeah, it was right

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Speaker 5: out of the guy. Yeah, commentating the many white car.

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Speaker 4: That's my guy.

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Speaker 3: I love that guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do some quick injuries and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get into your copious notes. We do have ab do

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Speaker 2: you want to do the copious notes right now? Now

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Speaker 2: let's do the injuries first, and you tell me what

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Speaker 2: anything to so, second day in.

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Speaker 4: A row, No, Amari, nothing nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 3: That's a zip okay, zipp percent.

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Speaker 5: Dwan Jones is back back at practice today and was

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Speaker 5: participating in team drill, so fully back.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also at practice today Ethan Posik. He left briefly with

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Speaker 2: a hand related injury according to Gibbey's notes, but then

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Speaker 2: did return. And then Matthew Adams left the field midway

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Speaker 2: through practice and did not return.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Matthew Adams left the field, uh midway, and so

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Speaker 5: did Tony Fields field and I think Tony Fields was

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Speaker 5: more heat related, something with a lower leg for Matthew Adams,

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Speaker 5: but none.

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Speaker 4: Of it is expected to be serious at this point.

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Speaker 5: And then today you had Jaquim Grant, tak taki and

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Speaker 5: a walk. We're all back in individual rolls. They did

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Speaker 5: then the guys that did that were down today were Amari,

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Speaker 5: Marquis Goodwin obviously, Anthony Schwartz, and Colby Gossitt remained inactive.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very good.

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Speaker 2: We have ab coming up here in about ten minutes

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Speaker 2: between now and then some of your notes, my friend

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Speaker 2: from today's practice.

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Speaker 4: Number number four.

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Speaker 5: Today was I mean, as far as I'm concerned, this

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Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, in terms of it being

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Speaker 4: That was today.

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Speaker 5: So first seven on seven and Deshaun Watson and the

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Speaker 5: He had a nice completion to Cedric Tillman on a

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Speaker 4: The big play of that.

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Speaker 5: got there. In Kellen Mon, he had some highs and

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Speaker 5: Dalen Baldwin to force an in completion. AJ Green had

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Speaker 5: a really nice day. Bo Keys bo Pete Keys number thirty,

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Speaker 5: as well. So that was kind of the first seven

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Speaker 5: on seven. The team eleven on eleven period, they did

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Speaker 5: what they called was a sudden change. They got out

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Speaker 5: one play on that sudden change. Miles Garrett, first time

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Speaker 5: that play, no doubt. I mean it was just like okay,

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Speaker 5: total sack there was a nice completion afterwards, but it

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Speaker 3: What he is before the injury.

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Speaker 4: We'll get right to AB.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking the time. I guess let's

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Speaker 6: as Siaki, can be someone as small as Obo, right,

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00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 6: and you know, so for us, we were looking at

442
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 6: really matching skill sets. I think, you know, as you

443
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 6: think about the line of scrimmage, you know the you know,

444
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 6: arguably the best you know, defensive tackle of all time,

445
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 6: and certainly one in our sport. It's two hundred and

446
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 6: eighty five pounds and you know, Aaron Donald. So we

447
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 6: don't get too caught up on on size. It's more,

448
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 6: you know, can they can they win a one on

449
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 6: one with whether it be power or quickness, or speed

450
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 6: or or length. And I think as we look at

451
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 6: our group, we are optimistic that we have a collection

452
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 6: of individuals that can win in a variety of ways

453
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 6: that will allow us to create one on one matchups.

454
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 6: You know, once we get to the regular season.

455
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 5: Are you excited for the return to Philly and those

456
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 5: joint practices to kind of see the differences and here's

457
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 5: where we were a year ago, we know where they went,

458
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 5: here's where we are now. Is that gonna be a

459
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 5: real valuable tape in your mind?

460
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 6: I think, I think the joint the joint practices are

461
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 6: always super valuable. They're valuable because you get to see

462
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 6: your team against another opponent in a life setting. Their

463
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 6: valuable obviously, for scouting purposes, for the bottom of the roster,

464
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 6: for for that team, and then for me personally, it's

465
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 6: it's great going back to Philly just because of all

466
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 6: the personal relationships. We don't really look at it as

467
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 6: like a like a year over year measuring stick because

468
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 6: like you know, rosters they turn over a lot every year,

469
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 6: and you know, teams are different, and you know, even

470
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 6: like even in the joint setting practice like who you

471
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 6: have available or you know, how injured you are like that,

472
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 6: that all plays. So we don't really look at as like, Okay, hey,

473
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Speaker 6: this is a you know, this is a measuring stick

474
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 6: in terms of progress.

475
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 7: It's really just good work with another opponent.

476
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Speaker 2: Maybe when you you think about the boxes that you

477
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: needed to check this offseason, one of them was certainly

478
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: to get a burner, to get someone who could get

479
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: deep and stretch defenses. Marky's good when was that he

480
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: was insational in in in mini camp and then an

481
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: incredible scare with him. What can you update us if

482
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: anything about his his condition or where he's at with

483
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: that a timetable perhaps if there is one, and then

484
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 2: just I can't imagine the relief you had of he's okay.

485
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: Because that was a scary time.

486
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it really was a scary time. And and

487
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 6: and that's the number one thing that he is okay,

488
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 6: he's on a good treatment plan. I wish I had

489
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 6: an update for you bo, and I wish I had

490
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 6: a firmer timetable. I think we will be able to, uh,

491
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 6: I guess estimate a time for full recovery as we

492
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Speaker 6: get through the next several several weeks. There's there's just

493
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 6: still you know, more that that has to occur before

494
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 6: we can give a give a really great estimate.

495
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 5: When you look at this roster right now that you've

496
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 5: put together and we're just getting started here, and they're

497
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 5: never complete. You're constantly churning and changing things we've added,

498
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 5: you know, young receiver Austin Watkins while we got here.

499
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 4: How satisfied are you with the roster?

500
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Speaker 5: And are there any spots that maybe you're really going

501
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 5: to focus on over the next couple of weeks because

502
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: there's look, there's great opportunity in the Hall of Fame

503
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 5: game for people that are fighting to make this rostort

504
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 5: to stay in the program and say we're on the

505
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 5: practice squad. Are there spots though that you're really going

506
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 5: to be focusing.

507
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 6: On I know it's going to sound cliche, but really

508
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 6: is all of them.

509
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 7: You know, as as.

510
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 4: We batched that off my bingo.

511
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Speaker 7: Card, right.

512
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 6: We uh, you know, with the next few weeks are

513
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 6: important for us, and I think you know, if you

514
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 6: go into camp and you just lock on on a

515
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 6: certain position, guys will surprise you in both directions and

516
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 6: you just never know how injuries will hit or what

517
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 6: other opportunities may come up externally. So we what I

518
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 6: want our staff to do is let's make sure we

519
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 6: get a real good firm crasp this three and some

520
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 6: weaknesses of our team without any preconceived notions.

521
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 7: Because you know, again talked about it earlier.

522
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 6: You you conceptualize what the team and the roster can

523
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 6: look like, where the straints are, where the weaknesses are,

524
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 6: but it never always goes according to plan. And so

525
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 6: I want us to make sure we come into camp

526
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 6: without preconceived notion so we can accurately assess the state

527
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 6: of the team.

528
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: Maybe this is your first, your first camp without Kareem

529
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: back there with Nick Jerome Ford with an opportunity here,

530
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: what do you for the considering going to be a

531
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Speaker 2: much bigger load potentially for him and the chance that

532
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: he has. I think opportunity is probably the best word

533
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: to really solidify being that two. He clearly is that

534
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: two behind Nick. What do you like about him? What

535
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: are fans going to see from him? What do you

536
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: anticipate from him this camp in this season.

537
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 6: One of the things that we liked a lot about

538
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 6: Jerome when we drafted him and then as we saw

539
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 6: him play a lot in the preseason, you know, was

540
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 6: his ability in the passing game. We felt like he

541
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 6: was a very capable receiver, not just out of the backfield,

542
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 6: but we saw this first like at his pro day

543
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 6: when he split out and ran routes and caught the ball.

544
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 6: And then you know, we did a little bit in

545
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: camp and actually I think during the Philadelphia preseason game

546
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 6: of memory serves me correctly with him, and he really

547
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 6: was up to the task.

548
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 7: You know.

549
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 6: One of the areas where we challenged Jerome uh coming

550
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 6: out of last year was in past protection because he

551
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 6: hadn't hadn't gotten a ton of reps. You know, a

552
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 6: lot of times guys in college don't do it, and

553
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 6: you know, we needed someone to be as reliable as

554
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 6: Nick and Kareem were mentally in past protection. He has

555
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 6: a physical ability to stand in and and and pickup

556
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 6: blitzer or or prick up a free runner. And what

557
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 6: impressed us the most this spring is, you know, he

558
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 6: really batted a thousand with the size. He really took

559
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 6: took that challenge and ran with it. You know, again,

560
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 6: we're not in pads yet, and then we just had

561
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 6: our first you know, live team setting, but we're very encouraged.

562
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: We know he can catch the ball, we know he

563
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 6: can run routes. But you know, if the pass pro

564
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 6: comes together, that's that's probably the area that we think

565
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 6: is one of Jerome's and.

566
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: That's the key.

567
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 5: If you can't protect the quarterback, you can't be on

568
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 5: the field in passing situations in the National Football League.

569
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: But I'll go back to as debut and Jacksonville let

570
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 5: the team in rushing, let the team in receiving, scored

571
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 5: two touchdowns over one hundred total yards, and you kind

572
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 5: of saw the glimpse of what he could be. And

573
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 5: now it looks like that opportunity is there and it's

574
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 5: his job to make sure it stays there for him.

575
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 5: One thing I noticed today, and we were talking about

576
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: this little bit not open and obviously you have a

577
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: history with Jim Schwartz bringing him in here, and it

578
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: felt to me watching today. And I've heard our defense

579
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 5: talk in the past, so I'm not saying that this

580
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 5: is a whole new thing, but it almost feels like

581
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 5: his personality and his fire and his kind of demeanor

582
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 5: is already transition.

583
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: We haven't seen the pads.

584
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll magnify there, but do you get a

585
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 5: sense of that too, that they've kind of taken on

586
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: Jim's personality a little?

587
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually think they have taken on their own

588
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 6: person Like Jim talks about, he wants the defense to

589
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 6: you know, really like lead the league in swag and

590
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: you know, and.

591
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 7: Really having fun.

592
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 6: Like he encouraged football is an emotional game and he

593
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 6: wants to play with play with emotion, but he also

594
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 6: wants them to play physical and relentless, and so that's

595
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 6: something that's encouraged to get their their working. But he wants,

596
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 6: you know, players to be able to show their show

597
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 6: their personality, and I think the guys are really taking

598
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 6: to them.

599
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: Maybe is this refreshing for you from the standpoint of, uh,

600
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, this camp it's just about ball.

601
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys, you guys, come here.

602
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: You got COVID year one, year two, there was you know,

603
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: this stuff with with the receivers and bake and all that.

604
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, you get last year. We're

605
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: dealing with everything you were dealing with. Often this is

606
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: just football, man, is this is Do you notice a difference?

607
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 7: I'd be lying if I said I didn't.

608
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: Bo this is your first normal year together, and it's like,

609
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 5: this is just football.

610
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: This is kind of fun.

611
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 6: But I'll also say that I've been in the NFL

612
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 6: long enough to know that there's there's always something around

613
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 6: the corner, like you're going to deal with the inevitable

614
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 6: ups and downs and crisis. You just you just don't

615
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: know what it is. But it is nice to, you know,

616
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 6: come into camp, be here in these these these beautiful

617
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 6: you know, hills of West Virginia at the Greenbrier, and

618
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 6: you know, practice was just us and the team with

619
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 6: you with minimal minimal distraction.

620
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: So what do you do tomorrow?

621
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: Is this a chance for you to kind of take

622
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 5: in the first one, because it really wasn't much before today.

623
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: It's a great question, what do you do tomorrow? So

624
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 6: tomorrow actually a group of us. We're gonna go on

625
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 6: one of the local hiking trails here. Okay, we're gonna

626
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 6: do that. Do that in the morning. You know, once

627
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 6: we get back, I'll take care of some really administer

628
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 6: administrative stuff and then you know, we'll we'll we'll go

629
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 6: to dinner in the in the evening. But the big thing,

630
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: the big thing is the hike. So we're we're looking

631
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 6: forward to that.

632
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to recreate, You're in a good spot.

633
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good spot for that.

634
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. You can do a little recreating.

635
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious if you knowing you, I'm interested on

636
00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: this one.

637
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: You have a sweet tooth.

638
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: If you had that banana dessert thing, you had that yet.

639
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 7: I haven't, so I'm not a big banana dessert guy.

640
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: But I will.

641
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 7: But but don't don't don't worry. I got you on

642
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 7: this one.

643
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: But but.

644
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: I may have walked over to Slam and Sami to

645
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 6: try and get a brownie with ice cream yesterday I was.

646
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 6: I was unsuccessful. So I will make my second attempt tonight.

647
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 5: Just do me, do us a favor, and really we

648
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: do yourself a favor. Get the let the brownie be

649
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 5: the entree for you, But just get this banana cobbler

650
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 5: on the side.

651
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: And give it a whirl. You mean you gotta give

652
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: it a PJ beal vouch for it.

653
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: He knows, he vouch.

654
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's a one hundred out of ten.

655
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: It might be, we said yesterdays, Joe, I'd put that

656
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: on my mount rushmore of desserts that I've ever.

657
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: Had in my life.

658
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's.

659
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: I do have a banana proclivity though, to be fair,

660
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 5: so I will share this story.

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Speaker 6: It's it's like a running joke or a story that

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Speaker 6: my my parents and my siblings like to tell. My

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Speaker 6: grandmother she heard one of her specialties was peach cobbler.

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Speaker 6: She she she made peach cobbler all the time. All

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Speaker 6: the family loved it. And I actually have a tough

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Speaker 6: time with like textures, like saggy brothers like with textures.

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Speaker 6: But my mom made me, made me eat it, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: I you know, I shoved it down. It didn't sit

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Speaker 6: well with me, and I was trying to race two

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Speaker 6: an area where my grandmother wouldn't see what would eventually happen.

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Speaker 6: But I only made to the kitchen sink. And everybody

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Speaker 6: heard the peach of Kabla.

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Speaker 8: Come back home.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not I'm not a cobbler person.

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Speaker 5: It's because it really is more of like a banana

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Speaker 5: pudding with a little crumble on it. It's just and

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Speaker 5: I get you, like I can't eat a fly no way,

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Speaker 5: Like that's too jollious, too much, too much for me.

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Speaker 4: But okay, we don't want that. We want you to

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Speaker 4: be okay, So be okay, be ready for the VR dessert.

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Speaker 3: It'll be ourt. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, pal, really appreciate it. Uh this

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Speaker 2: is this is a really cool thing and it's cool

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Speaker 2: to see, uh how it's paying already off.

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Speaker 3: With this team obviously very early. But thanks so much

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Speaker 3: for joining us today on the program.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys for having me appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the boss that's ab joining us on set

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Speaker 2: with z down at the Greenbrier. Girard will join next

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on what he saw from the defense of

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Speaker 2: the seven on sevens. That's coming up next. To listen

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Speaker 2: to cleveand Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: H Right, Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: Bow and Z now joined by Girard and Z's called

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Speaker 2: it the first kind of day of real football. You

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Speaker 2: had some seven on sevens had some eleven on eleven's.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of what you saw today?

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Speaker 9: My friend, Definitely the intensity was greater than it had

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Speaker 9: been in previous days. So I see exactly why Dog

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Speaker 9: feels that way, because dudes would get after it, talking cash,

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Speaker 9: you know what, and just letting it be known that hey,

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Speaker 9: we're about to go out here and play some serious football.

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Speaker 4: So I certainly see why he felt that way.

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Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, what I did seeing,

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Speaker 9: what I was impressed with is the fact that these

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Speaker 9: guys are competing, They are doing things necessary to prepare

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Speaker 9: themselves for not just Friday and Saturday when the pasts

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Speaker 9: come on, but ultimately doing the right things to get

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Speaker 9: prepared for this first preseason game, because, as you know, Bo,

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Speaker 9: it is a marathon before we get to that first

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Speaker 9: game that counts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt, And I thought one of the things

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Speaker 5: that was good, Gerad, you always talked about assignment, alignment.

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Speaker 5: There was only one time in the entire day where

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Speaker 5: there was any confusion that happened on the offensive side

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Speaker 5: of the ball, and they regrouped after that. But if

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Speaker 5: you had just kind of plopped in here and said,

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Speaker 5: oh man, we're at the Greenbrier, maybe this is where

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Speaker 5: the Browns are based, but this could have been in

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Speaker 5: terms of just the smoothness of the practice, this didn't

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Speaker 5: look like a first practice, which I think is a

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Speaker 5: testament to the mental work that everybody is put in.

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Speaker 9: Right and that is a key component to it all,

728
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Speaker 9: because you always want to have a situation where you're

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Speaker 9: not wasting precious time. As we know, it's extremely precious

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Speaker 9: because it's limited and it's guarded. So if you're not

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Speaker 9: repeating plays and having mistakes, that's only going to help

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Speaker 9: the cause. And also that creates confidence because you do

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Speaker 9: have a new coordinator here, and you essentially have a

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Speaker 9: new special teams Yeah, you have a new special teams

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Speaker 9: coordinator as well, So when things are going smooth like that,

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Speaker 9: that could only help the cause and continue to build

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Speaker 9: a confidence. But I will say this, I love the

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Speaker 9: fact that the defense hasn't angst about it. Now, nobody

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Speaker 9: really wants to name it and claiming yet because the

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Speaker 9: pads haven't come on and we haven't played any games

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Speaker 9: that quote unquote count.

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Speaker 4: But I feel in.

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Speaker 9: Since a difference with this defense, agree how they go

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Speaker 9: about practice and just their overall attitude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like they've taken on that that attitude

746
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Speaker 5: of Jim Schwartz, which is really just turning themselves up

747
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Speaker 5: to eleven, but having that swag, and you definitely can

748
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Speaker 5: see that and there Look, there's a ton of talent

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Speaker 5: on that side the ball. There's a ton of talent

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Speaker 5: on the offense, which is why I think this is

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Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we just had a b on and

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Speaker 2: he was taught when he said that, you know that

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Speaker 2: the gym wants his team to have his defense to

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Speaker 2: have that swag, that he wants them out there bouncing around.

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Speaker 2: If that's showing up already to me, that's a good sign.

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Speaker 2: I think it's at some point, and especially on that

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Speaker 2: side of the ball. Our best players are relatively quiet individuals.

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Speaker 2: They're not as they're not as loud as boisterous talking

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Speaker 2: about Denzel or Miles. Miles certainly plays very, very loudly.

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Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, if you have a

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Speaker 2: collective that's got its chest out a little bit and

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Speaker 2: now you gotta back it up, you gotta be great

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Speaker 2: and play great.

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Speaker 3: That helps.

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Speaker 2: But yes, beliefs a big part of it, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You're odd if you believe you're the toughest man in

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Speaker 2: the fight. Sometimes you can. Sometimes you are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you got to talk yourself into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's simple to like, hey, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 9: That and all that and then some and I'm gonna

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Speaker 9: get after you and just again, being braggadocius is not

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Speaker 9: the right word, but having bravado about you and a

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Speaker 9: confidence about.

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Speaker 4: You means a lot, especially in this game.

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Speaker 9: You just can't simply be like, hey, I think I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna go play defense today, you know, and go tackle a.

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Speaker 4: Guy and go up, I'm about to go get after you.

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Speaker 9: I'm about to get it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: It has to be that type of mentality and that

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Speaker 9: type of attitude. And I'm seeing that and I'm loving that,

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Speaker 9: and and it's sustainable, I.

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Speaker 4: Know it is. You can be that way for seventeen

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Speaker 4: games and beyond.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the things that I'm seeing too is

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Speaker 5: that this coaching staff and it's always been on the offense.

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Speaker 5: You know, we talked with Elijah Moore for Training Camp

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Speaker 5: Insider today, but you know he's talking about just how

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Speaker 5: detail oriented Chad O'Shea is and then we knew that

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Speaker 5: the offense was that way. And defensively, not to say

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Speaker 5: that they were not as much, but you're seeing that,

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Speaker 5: and you know, coach Tarvard working on the details with

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Speaker 5: the linebackers and being able to be like, look, you're

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Speaker 5: not getting it done. You're gonna sit and watch for

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Speaker 5: a little bit. You know, j Okay two days ago

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Speaker 5: was with the second team to start practice. Obviously today

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Speaker 5: was back with the first team, but sending messages get

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Speaker 5: on your stuff. And then Jao goes today makes an

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Speaker 5: unbelievable play breaking up a passing the red zone on

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Speaker 5: a corner route to chief Jim Schwartz runs on the

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Speaker 5: field and praises him in a way that we can't

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Speaker 5: share on the air, and so you're like, you know,

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Speaker 5: guys are getting it and they want it, and it's

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Speaker 5: feeding off of it. Are DB's incredibly detail oriented. The

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Speaker 5: way that Brandon Lynchen. You you know, you've watched him,

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Speaker 5: the way he's operating with those corners, and you know,

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Speaker 5: from corner one to corner eight today, they all had

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Speaker 5: to play at some point, you know, and it was

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Speaker 5: great to see.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's just there's a lot of talent.

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Speaker 5: There were still big plays by the offense, you know,

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Speaker 5: DPJ had a couple of big ones, Watson through a

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Speaker 5: lot of nice balls, But at the same time there's

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Speaker 5: a defense that's able to answer it and make plays.

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Speaker 5: And I think that overall, if you were going to

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Speaker 5: hand out a game ball today, it would have been

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Speaker 5: to the defensive side. Girod Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: Certainly?

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Speaker 9: And you love what the cornerbacks did today, and you're right.

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Speaker 9: Pick a number guys that are high on depth chart,

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Speaker 9: guys that are right now on the bottom.

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Speaker 4: Part of the depth chart.

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Speaker 9: They all had impact in today's practice and did something

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Speaker 9: of significance where we're talking about it and we were impressed

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Speaker 9: by it. So that's what you want, and that's again

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Speaker 9: a sign coaching's taking place and guys are being competitive.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you one question, because you've been through this,

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Speaker 5: you've been out there and you had said the defense

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Speaker 5: is going to be ahead. For example, we talked with

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Speaker 5: Elijah Moore today and camp. You remember bo Elijah ran

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Speaker 5: that great I call the SA route. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what the r verbiage is for it, but where it

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00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: starts kinning, you bend in up and then back to

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Speaker 5: the right, making the letter C if you're looking at it.

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Speaker 5: And he had run that for a touchdown in mini

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Speaker 5: camp down there in the red zone, and then today

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Speaker 5: AJ Green was kind of sitting on it and he

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Speaker 5: had to run it. And Elijah said, well, that's maybe

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Speaker 5: they're testing me, knowing that he knows what I'm gonna run,

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Speaker 5: that I need to figure out a way to run

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Speaker 5: it in a different way that sells him that maybe

842
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Speaker 5: I'm not running it. But when you're going against one

843
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: team and one team's scheme, you know at some point

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Speaker 5: from the splits and from the formations, like what concepts

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Speaker 5: are coming and what routes are likely to come out

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Speaker 5: of what you're seeing. It's because it's one team and

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Speaker 5: one team's playbook over and over and over.

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Speaker 9: Now on that particular route, I happen to be watching

849
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Speaker 9: aj and his technique in what he was doing he

850
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 9: had phenomenal technique. And here's the thing about playing cornerback,

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Speaker 9: especially when you're in that short red zone area, You're

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Speaker 9: not gonna.

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Speaker 4: Get beat with speed. You don't get beat with quickness.

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Speaker 9: In fact, fast twish muscle and guys who have to

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00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 9: buildy just go boom boom boom. So what he did

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 9: not do was when he made that when Moore made

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00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 9: that move to the inside, he didn't honor it. He

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Speaker 9: was like, Okay, I got help inside here. I don't

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Speaker 9: need to play that. I'll just concentrate on maintaining my

860
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 9: outside leverage, if you will, because that's what the defense

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Speaker 9: is dictating. So by him doing the right thing from

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Speaker 9: a responsibility standpoint, it created a scenario where aj had

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Speaker 9: to make a phenomenal Elijah rather had to make a

864
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 9: phenomenal catch in which he caught in the back crazy,

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Speaker 9: which was crazy in his own right. But what you

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Speaker 9: saw there was just great defense. So and yeah, there's

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Speaker 9: something to be said about being familiar with the route

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Speaker 9: and knowing that it's that it's about to occur. But

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Speaker 9: at the same time, that was seven on seven if

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Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken, wasn't it. So come on, QB, you

871
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 9: had a pass rush, so you got to complete that

872
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Speaker 9: as well. But just a great job of covering in

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Speaker 9: to AJ Green's credit of just playing phenomenal technique. And

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure that be Lynch is gonna highlight roll

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Speaker 9: that back seven times.

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Speaker 4: This is all about leverage.

877
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: So what I loved about that was so before the

878
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: play when it came out and Elijah was singled up

879
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: on that side, and be Lynch ran over was.

880
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: Like, win, win, win, you gotta win, Aj, you gotta win.

881
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: It's coming your way.

882
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: You gotta win, like knowing that it was kind of

883
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 5: one on one situation there, and he did just that.

884
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: But from him, Thomas Graham had some nice plays today.

885
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: Who's fighting to maybe be the sixth corner and the backup?

886
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 5: They had a great PBu there. Bo Pete Keys made

887
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 5: a couple of big plays. We talked about him. So

888
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 5: you saw a lot of different people in the secondary

889
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 5: great get a nice plays. Denzel MJ looks great. He

890
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 5: just looks very stick alone. Yeah, like the ball is

891
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: not really going.

892
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: This guy.

893
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: But some of this is also a marriage of talent

894
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: and scheme, right, I mean they're gonna play more man

895
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: tons of man.

896
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, We're good.

897
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: So it makes sense like they're thriving, it's what they

898
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: do best. So like it's a perfect marriage of the

899
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: skill set of our corners and what Jim Schwartz wants

900
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: to do in the back end.

901
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, agree with that wholeheartedly.

902
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: And then we saw today for the first time in

903
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 5: like full speed Teams, we saw Denzel play some of

904
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 5: the Nickel, which, again that tells me he's fully bought

905
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: in and he's fully believing in what Jim Schwartz is

906
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: asking him to do, because it is something that had

907
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: been on the table in years pass and it just

908
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 5: didn't want it didn't happen for whatever reason.

909
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: Let's leave it at that.

910
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: To see it now, I think that also says a

911
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 5: lot when you're one of your top guys, like you

912
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: know what I'm willing. If you guys think I can

913
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: be valuable inside and leave Mgay and Greg outside at

914
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: times and give different looks to defenses, that's a that's

915
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: a good thing. And seeing that today that I loved

916
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 5: seeing that, and he looked very comfortable in the.

917
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 9: Fair way and by as a matter of fact, may

918
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 9: one of his top plays date from the Nickel positions.

919
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 9: So Denzel's a talent, A talented talent. I mean, just

920
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 9: call for what it's worth. But the fact that a

921
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 9: buy in because he's in a situation where he could

922
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 9: be like, you know what, I'm not signing up for

923
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 9: that Nichols don't make as much as the guys on

924
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 9: the outside. That might hurt my stats. He's not saying that.

925
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 9: What he's doing has been a team player. And I

926
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 9: see him. I saw Denzel and I made a point

927
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 9: to watch him after practice working with young guys too, yep,

928
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 9: and going over how to play, bump and run and

929
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 9: different little technique things that matter. So you're seeing a

930
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 9: lot of that bow And that's so impressive because again,

931
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 9: one of the reasons we're right here in West Virginia

932
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 9: and white sulfur springs, am my, right, you got it right,

933
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 9: you got it is for camaraderie. Yeah, and I'm seeing.

934
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: It well, just to connect dots to guys. The other

935
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: thing you're probably seeing is you're seeing guys who are

936
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: feeling their football mortality.

937
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: I mean they're in their prime.

938
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: Denzel Ward is in the prime of his career, Like

939
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: if he wants to be like a generational type defensive

940
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: back for the Cleveland Browns.

941
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 3: It's go time.

942
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: We've used that.

943
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: It's Miles, Like Miles wants to win Defensive Player of

944
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: the Year, it's go time. He's never played with this

945
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: type of talent around him everywhere the way that he

946
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: has in a defense that should take advantage of his skills.

947
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean that a lot of our guys are in

948
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: the prime of their football career, and I'm guessing that's

949
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: showing through down there in terms of them stepping up

950
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: hopefully on the field, off the field, leadership.

951
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: All of it.

952
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree with that, and you have to

953
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 9: take that into consideration and also understanding that those windows

954
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 9: and though you don't want to think about it, but

955
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 9: you have to know that no team will always remain

956
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 9: the same and this is a great opportunity. The eight and

957
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 9: I were walking to the to lunch bow and we're

958
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 9: just talking about the talent on this football team and

959
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 9: it's so self evident of how talented they are. And

960
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 9: what you like now is that these guys seem to

961
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 9: be saying, you know what, is not enough to just

962
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 9: be recognized as talented, Let's put in the work.

963
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's what is kind of cool

964
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 5: about this, and you know, we talked with Elijah and

965
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 5: it sounded like he had never kind of been around

966
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 5: a team where they did something like the four h

967
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: talk and just how you know, people really kind of

968
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: bearing their souls to each other. And so I think

969
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: they will come out of this with a closeness. I

970
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: think there's no doubt that this is a talented team.

971
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: And we said that all the time. That's why it's

972
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 5: so difficult in some ways to talk about it and

973
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: to talk about these practices. Yeah, you need to see it,

974
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: you need to see iron sharpening iron, all of those things.

975
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 5: But this is a team that is gonna be judged

976
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 5: solely by what happens beginning Week one at home against

977
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 5: the Bengals and beyond and being It's not gonna be

978
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 5: judged by anything that happens from now until we get there.

979
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: And I know, you know, AB won't say it's a

980
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: year over year measuring stick, but I do think when

981
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: you have those joint practices where you're playing the same

982
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: team two years in a row, that's the team that

983
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: is the favorite to win the NFC for the second

984
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 5: straight year. If you're hanging with it's a measuring stick.

985
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 5: You know it is very much for me. You haven't

986
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: been in those type of practices before. When you're going

987
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: or being in a situation where you are the Super

988
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 5: Bowl champ, that team coming to practice against you wants it.

989
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 9: They are looking at it as a measurers stick to

990
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 9: see where they stack up, because you are the top

991
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 9: dog and you're gonna get an A plus performance and

992
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 9: guys gonna give you their best effort when you have

993
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 9: those type of situations. So for us to go to Philadelphia,

994
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 9: for example, heck yeah, that's gonna be a measuring stick.

995
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 9: But more importantly we talk about the four h yep

996
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 9: and what that represents. You have to get to a

997
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 9: place to where guys see the team more than just

998
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 9: my paycheck, but seeing it as we're on a mission

999
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 9: and accomplish something together. And whenever you can get that

1000
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 9: foundation and formulate that and make that a part of

1001
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 9: the culture and get guys to embrace that, that's gonna

1002
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 9: help your chances. That's gonna win you a game or two.

1003
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 9: Because sometimes you'll go against some teams who simply have

1004
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 9: a bunch of mercenaries out there who are like, hey man,

1005
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 9: I don't care if we want.

1006
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: To lose, I'm getting paid.

1007
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 9: And when you have that common cause and we're here

1008
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 9: for something greater than just our paycheck going on, you

1009
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 9: win football games because you're able to do what You're

1010
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 9: able to dig in deeper and go to a place

1011
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 9: to where where it's hurting, you still perform at a

1012
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 9: high level because you're trying to do it for your brothers.

1013
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say, where you or I

1014
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 5: don't want to let anybody else down right that is

1015
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: in this with me as opposed to the mercenaries who are.

1016
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 4: Like I don't don't care rights.

1017
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 5: And I think part of the reason that's why we're here,

1018
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: right is to build for those connections and make that

1019
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: connective tissue that is so strong that it's able to

1020
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 5: withstand the no doubt ups and downs and the adversity

1021
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 5: it's gonna come over an NFL season that spans five months.

1022
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the way that it is. And

1023
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: because of the.

1024
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: Nature of the game that every week, good or bad,

1025
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: you get to have a week of then discussion about it.

1026
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: You know, you could have a great game one week,

1027
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: the next week you don't, and then it's like, can

1028
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 5: these guys do it?

1029
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: Are they for real?

1030
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: And you hear like there's so much scrutiny on it

1031
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: that you have to try to stay even in What

1032
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: allows you to do that as forming those bonds, which

1033
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: is why you know the Browns are And we heard

1034
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: ab you know, talk about he thought this was normal.

1035
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: You know, this is what he did the first seven

1036
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: years of his career. They would go away for camp.

1037
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: So I think that's one of the big reasons why

1038
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 5: the Browns are here. And hopefully it pays the dividends

1039
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: that we hope it does, because there is you know,

1040
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: we heard Jimmy and Dee talk yesterday and they said,

1041
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: you know, we're not calling it now or never a playoffs,

1042
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: but the expectation in this building is this is a

1043
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: team that should be competing for a championship. It's been

1044
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 5: built that way. The coaching staff is here to make

1045
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: it that way. That of course is the expectation, whether

1046
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 5: you verbalize it or not. And there are a lot

1047
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: of factors go on. I hack Warren Sharp put out

1048
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: his projected his projected win totals. He has one of

1049
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: the sixteen teams in the AFC having ten or more wins,

1050
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: the Browns being one of them. He has eleven win

1051
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: teams not making the playoffs in the AF.

1052
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: He has US at ten and seven, fourth in.

1053
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: The Northwest, right last and division like wow.

1054
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Ten and seven, Like jeez, Now that's the look. It's

1055
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: a you're not hit it. I mean, first of all,

1056
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: belief's a powerful thing, yep. And belief in unit, belief

1057
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: in team and all of that stuff. It's it sounds

1058
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: cliche and maybe it seems corny to some, but it

1059
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: is real. It is one hundred percent real. And belief

1060
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: will be the difference between the game here or a

1061
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: game there. I mean, that's a lock that that's gonna happen.

1062
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 4: Agreed.

1063
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: And I think the schedule makers, if things go the

1064
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 5: way we wanted, us a great service, not disservice by

1065
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 5: the way the schedule starts. Because if we do go

1066
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 5: out and after the first four are let's call it

1067
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: three and one, and we've beaten or at least we

1068
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 5: got let's say we go two and one in the

1069
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: division games, yeah, we're gonna have that belief and we

1070
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: go we open at home and we beat the Bengals.

1071
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: That's gonna give us fades belief. It should because you go,

1072
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: it's the top.

1073
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 9: Last time I checked, they find themselves in the past

1074
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 9: two seasons in the AFC Championship in prior to that

1075
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 9: Super Bowl.

1076
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: Well how could it not.

1077
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that that start. It's so critical. It's

1078
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 2: so critical to have to just to have a little

1079
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: bit of chessiness and have a little bit of understanding

1080
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: what you're capable of, because anybody, I don't care who

1081
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: you are, I mean you want to use the sharp

1082
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: one or you know his the ten and seven and

1083
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: all of the teams in the a f C, we

1084
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: all know how tough it's going to be. This roster,

1085
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: as you guys just alluded to, can stick up and

1086
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: stand up to any yeah, any of them out there.

1087
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: There just is no margin for air in this a FC.

1088
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: It's really just that simple. Like you just, it's gonna

1089
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: come down to a game. That's going to be a

1090
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: game here a game. There is going to be the difference.

1091
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you what. In the a f C,

1092
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: if you get in the dance, you can win it.

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Speaker 2: Every team that gets in it in the AFC can

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Speaker 2: win it. It's not like the af the NFC. In

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Speaker 2: that side, it is, uh, it is going to be

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Speaker 2: six Super Bowl contenders in the mix or seven Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl contenders in the mix. All right, lots more to

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Speaker 2: get you. You'll hear from coach Stefanski. We have some

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Speaker 2: o our ownership d and Jimmy HASLM spoke yesterday. We'll

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Speaker 2: go over some of the highlights of that. You'll hear

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Speaker 2: from j Oka the chief as well. Go around the league.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: Let's head to the podium our head coach Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 2: from earlier today.

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Speaker 4: Yet to give give it.

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00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 9: How much to Shawn likes to throw the ball downfield?

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00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 7: You can do so effectively in a given or personnel

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00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 7: this year?

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00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 10: How much more of the deep ball do you think

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Speaker 10: can be a weapon for you guys this season.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the deep ball is certainly a part

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 11: of what we want to do, what everybody wants to do.

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Speaker 11: I think there's varying ways to get there. There's the

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Speaker 11: old school just take five in a hitch and launch

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Speaker 11: a go ball, and that's certainly good ball when you

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Speaker 11: like your matchup. Then there's varying ways in the play

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Speaker 11: action game to try to get the quarterback on the

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Speaker 11: perimeter and give him time to set up and push

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Speaker 11: the ball down the field. So I think it's so

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Speaker 11: dependent on what the defense is allowing you to do,

1130
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Speaker 11: and then it's really dependent on your guys. Who do

1131
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 11: you want to put where? Who do you want to

1132
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 11: put on the go ball, Who do you want to

1133
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 11: put on that deep post, on that far across those

1134
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 11: type of things. So certainly we'll be part of what

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Speaker 11: we do. How we get to it, I think will vary.

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Speaker 10: Given next ability and then swing to get out in

1137
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 10: the side of the pocket. You think that that could

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00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 10: be something you guys could be really exactly for the Spy.

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00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like we talked about the other day, you know,

1141
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 11: having Nick Chubb on our team, we're obviously excited to

1142
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 11: use Nick like we have in the past few years

1143
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 11: to great success. And then defenses know that we have

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00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 11: Nick Chubbs, so they're going to try to take him

1145
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 11: away and that opens up things in the passing tim

1146
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Speaker 11: files working.

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Speaker 8: They're giving some tips to Alex and Isaiah.

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Speaker 13: You know during the drill. What kind of impacting that

1149
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 13: af Miles really gives some of the knowledge of.

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Speaker 11: Tips that yet, Yeah, I think you see that really

1151
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 11: at every position that that's a that's being a great teammate,

1152
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 11: is passing on some of those tips and those things

1153
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 11: that you've really gotten from others.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's paying it forward.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure there were.

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Speaker 11: Guys that took Miles under their wing when he was

1157
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 11: a young player. I can think of I can picture

1158
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Speaker 11: of Mari and Marquise out here taking our young receivers

1159
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Speaker 11: through some things.

1160
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Speaker 8: So that's what you do as a good teammate.

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00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: Value bringing into two seasons.

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00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Looking around, how much of those several interceptions is on again,

1163
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: how big a.

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00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: Factor is that integration of them?

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Speaker 11: I think you have to be so careful with interceptions,

1166
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 11: similar to Sacks. You know, with Sacks, it's it's a

1167
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 11: stat that everybody uses for the defensive line and for

1168
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Speaker 11: offense for that matter, but really we're looking at quarterback.

1169
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Speaker 11: Pressures are so important to us when it comes to

1170
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Speaker 11: defensive line. Similarly with the secondary, you need the ball

1171
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Speaker 11: to get thrown your way in order to have an interception.

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Speaker 11: And then so how many balls are coming your way?

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Speaker 11: What are you doing when the ball does come your way?

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Speaker 11: Are you defending the player? Are you knocking the ball away?

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Speaker 11: Those type of things obviously goes without saying. We love interceptions.

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Speaker 11: Ur DB's love interceptions, and that's something that's a goal

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Speaker 11: for all of our guys, But I think it can

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Speaker 11: be a little bit misleading.

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Speaker 3: Like Rodney, how important.

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Speaker 12: Is that guy in that room, especially with all those

1181
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Speaker 12: good guys.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think over the course of time, you've seen

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Speaker 11: us add guys that really help us on the field,

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Speaker 11: and then they also help us off the field and

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Speaker 11: in the locker room and in those meeting rooms. I

1186
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Speaker 11: think of a guy like Malcolm Smith, who we're fortunate

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Speaker 11: to have in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, a

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Speaker 11: veteran who had been there, done that one at championship

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Speaker 11: and played really good football for us.

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Speaker 12: Maybe in a smaller role, but played good ball and

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Speaker 12: provide a great leadership.

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Speaker 4: Off the field as well.

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Speaker 8: And then another guy of the coach for him. And

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Speaker 8: when you as get on it, yeah, but what was

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Speaker 8: it that you liked about him and the gym liked

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Speaker 8: about him and what you guys kind about.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we you know, we were looking for a lot

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Speaker 12: of things in that role, but somebody that was really.

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Speaker 11: A good young football coach with energy and experience, and

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Speaker 11: I think Efraim's I think he's a really good coach.

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00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 11: Became highly recommended. To talk to a lot of people

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Speaker 11: about him. That was an expansive search when we hired Fhraim,

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Speaker 11: so he really he won that job and he did

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00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 11: a nice job throughout that process. But very very intelligent

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Speaker 11: for a young coach that has really seen a lot,

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00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 11: has been everywhere, if you will, and I think relates

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Speaker 11: really well to our players.

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Speaker 7: When you say unlocked the next step for him, what

1209
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 7: what does that mean?

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Speaker 11: You know, I don't know what exactly numbers or that

1211
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 11: type of thing, but I would just tell you that

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Speaker 11: there's no player on.

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Speaker 12: The field today that can't get better. And for Miles,

1214
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Speaker 12: I think that's that's that's the truth. It's also a mentality.

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Speaker 8: That's why we're out.

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00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 7: Here working with Miles and just how effortlessly he seems

1217
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Speaker 7: to go through.

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Speaker 14: A lot of the drills you know that are out

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Speaker 14: here with Jim coming in and kind of tweaking how

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Speaker 14: that front line is.

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Speaker 4: Going to operate.

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Speaker 12: The guy coming off back to back sixteen Zach seasons.

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Speaker 10: How excited do you get as a coach knowing the

1224
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 10: impact that Miles can have but also that increasing just

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Speaker 10: by some of the changes that you guys made.

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Speaker 11: This answers, Yeah, I mean I think all changes, you know,

1227
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Speaker 11: scheme to scheme or there are obviously changes. There are

1228
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Speaker 11: obviously changes, but I'd say they're more nuanced than major.

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Speaker 12: And Miles has had a lot of success for us

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Speaker 12: in the in a four down front.

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Speaker 11: He's won on the right, on the left, inside, you know,

1232
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 11: he's really as we talked about Nick the other day,

1233
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 11: Miles is very similar and that he can fit in

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Speaker 11: any scheme, but we've seen him in these four down

1235
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 11: fronts be very disruptive. So I think for us it's

1236
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Speaker 11: unlocking the next step for Miles like it is every player.

1237
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 11: I think any one of our players would would tell

1238
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 11: you there's more than they can give. I don't care

1239
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 11: where they are in their career, what they've accomplished. I

1240
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 11: always think there's more that they can give.

1241
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff there from coach Miles getting a

1242
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: lot of the attention in that practice presser there from

1243
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: coach he is man, it's if you're talking about back

1244
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: to back sixteen SAX seasons and now with this defensive

1245
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: line in this scheme, but it's also the guys behind

1246
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: him and part of that you mentioned the earlier Jok

1247
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: being put down with the second group a couple of

1248
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: practices ago and then responding the way that he did.

1249
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: He's also responding from an injury. Let's hear from Jeremiah Husakormo.

1250
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Here he is on rehabbing and getting right, but.

1251
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 8: Feels fine, feels good.

1252
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 15: I spent a lot of time on the offseason, eating

1253
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 15: the right things, doing the right things, whether it's stretching, yoga,

1254
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 15: taking the right self of minutes to be able to

1255
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Speaker 15: massure how the footthealth.

1256
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Speaker 2: So's going up and in terms of the change of scheme,

1257
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: he's taking notice as well. Here's Jok on the mindset

1258
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: of the linebackers this camp so far.

1259
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Speaker 15: Let's say anything is different, Yeah, I wouldn't say different

1260
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 15: at all. I think it's more so just a mindset

1261
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 15: and to evall and I don't think anything shifts from

1262
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Speaker 15: one to another. With the linebacker mindset has always run

1263
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 15: should tackle the guy with the ball to the simple

1264
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 15: coach Schwartz hmphasized is the attack defense.

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Speaker 8: That's what we're looking to go into. You know, nothing's

1266
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 8: different in reference to you know, you know, a.

1267
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Speaker 15: Certain body type or another body type, or a different mindset.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Coach Starvas still our coach.

1269
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Speaker 2: We have a similar mindset, Bringsy and girond back guys.

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Speaker 2: How much is unlocking what he can be a part

1271
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: of the success of this team j okay, I'm talking

1272
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Speaker 2: about specifically.

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Speaker 5: I think, first of all, he's incredibly talented, and we've

1274
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 5: seen that. I think part of it was getting his

1275
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: weight up where he'd be able to survive the rigors

1276
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: of a full season, and so he's done that. He's

1277
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 5: added muscle, he's you know, in the mid two hundred

1278
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: and twenty pounds. I think the other part of that

1279
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: is also getting guys up front that allow him to

1280
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Speaker 5: be free at the second level. And I think that's

1281
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: part of the reason that you saw them bring in

1282
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 5: Dalvin Tomlinson. That's why they draft a Siaki Eca because

1283
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 5: we have a very talented group of linebackers and Joe

1284
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 5: Case certainly is one of them who are tremendous space players,

1285
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 5: tremendous read and react players, but are not built, especially

1286
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: in Jok's case, to take on a guard at the

1287
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: second level, like that's not a matchup that he.

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Speaker 4: Is going to win, and so you need to keep

1289
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Speaker 4: him clean.

1290
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Speaker 5: And if you do, I think he has the chance

1291
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 5: to be a dynamic playmaker and a slasher shooting gaps,

1292
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 5: making plays in the backfield. He's a very good blitzer

1293
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: and one of the things they have work on with

1294
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 5: him in the red zone is making sure he does

1295
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: his coverage responsibilities right. Earlier today, he had one where

1296
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 5: he gave up on a third and three, just kind

1297
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: of a short stick in front of him, and he

1298
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 5: kind of dropped to eatd his zone. Drop too deep

1299
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Speaker 5: for no reason, like coach charvers like, don't drop for

1300
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: no reason. Make him force you to drop with his route.

1301
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Speaker 5: And so he kind of took that advice to heart obviously,

1302
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 5: and then did a great job as I mentioned, on

1303
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: that play in the corner to David Joku, but he's very,

1304
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 5: very talented, and I think for him, you know, it's

1305
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: about what they do in front of him.

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Speaker 4: And then there's the other part, Jarrodd that's on him.

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Speaker 4: It's being a pro.

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Speaker 5: It's not having to ask anybody around you what it's

1309
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 5: the call, what's my responsibility on this play. It's knowing

1310
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: that and knowing everybody else in your room's responsibility, and

1311
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: probably the next level is knowing everybody in front of

1312
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: you and behind these responsibilities so that it can work cohesively.

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Speaker 4: Especially when you're at that second level. You nailed it.

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 4: That's exactly what you need to do. And what I'll

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00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 4: add to it.

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Speaker 9: Is simply being consistent and doing the things the right way,

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 9: from how you prepare for the game, how you practice

1318
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 9: with your drops being in the right space, and when

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00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 9: you're tackling obviously the correct techniques.

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Speaker 4: But more importantly, Bo, here's a deal. Even if you

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Speaker 4: are say two fifty two sixty.

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Speaker 9: Five as a linebacker, if you have your defense line

1323
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 9: running up on you because they're getting pushed off the ball,

1324
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 9: I don't care how big you are, you're gonna struggle

1325
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 9: as a linebacker because simply put you need clean access

1326
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 9: to that running back. But more importantly for Jok far

1327
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 9: as his maturation process, it's exactly what Nathan just spelled out.

1328
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 9: You have to be consistent in knowing what your assignment

1329
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 9: is and taking another step, not just knowing what you're

1330
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 9: responsible for doing. What the defensive lineman's gap integrity rerules are,

1331
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 9: what the cornerbacks and the safety is, what their run

1332
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 9: responsibilities are. And when you learn all those things that

1333
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 9: you fit all those things together, your mind opens up.

1334
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 9: Now you're playing defense with your physical talent, match with

1335
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 9: a cerebral level level, and you can just play at

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 9: a higher level.

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Speaker 4: That's what it takes.

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Speaker 9: So when you see like a lot of these guys

1339
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 9: like ray Lewis, people don't understand the dude knew everything

1340
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 9: that was going on.

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 5: Couple with great talent, that's how you get to that

1342
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: next step. I was watching the Kelsey Brothers podcast. Somebody

1343
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 5: sent me a clip of this. They're talking about ray

1344
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: Lewis as he got like later in his career, that

1345
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: he would come out on like Thursday practices in flip

1346
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: flops and when he wasn't like at the point where

1347
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 5: his body wasn't able to practice fully every single week,

1348
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 5: and he would come in.

1349
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: He would sit in the.

1350
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Speaker 5: Middle of the field at his MIC linebacker position or

1351
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 5: stand there in flip flops at his MIC lineback position,

1352
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 5: getting the ultimate mental reps while practice.

1353
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: Would go on around him.

1354
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 5: And nobody ever got in his way or even said

1355
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: anything because he was Ray Lewis, which I thought was hysterical,

1356
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 5: like trying.

1357
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: To envision that on a field. But you can totally him.

1358
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 5: Doing that, of course, of course, but he wanted to

1359
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 5: be even when he wasn't getting reps. He wanted to

1360
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 5: be in the rep and yet every little mental piece

1361
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Speaker 5: that he could while he wasn't doing it physically, And

1362
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Speaker 5: so I think that that is a lesson, and I think,

1363
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 5: you know you played, you did it. I've been around

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 5: this team for eleven years, and I feel like I've

1365
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 5: observed enough to know one thing. The guys who dedicate

1366
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 5: their lives to the mastering of their craft are the

1367
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: ones who get the most out of their abilities and

1368
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 5: have the opportunity, as we said yesterday, good players to

1369
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 5: be really good, great players to become all time and

1370
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: then guys who were you know, middling in talent can

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: stay in the league for a decade because coaches trust

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Speaker 5: them to do their job. And I think that that

1373
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 5: is what we need and hopefully you're going to see

1374
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 5: with this team as some pros come in. And we

1375
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 5: heard that great the interview I do with Dalvin Tomlinson,

1376
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 5: which I don't know if we've played it on CBD,

1377
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 5: we're playing it tomorrow. He just talks about the little

1378
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 5: things after practice, that every little thing that he can do,

1379
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: talking with just everything you can do. And this is

1380
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 5: a guy who's been paid, he's been in the league

1381
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 5: for a long time. But it's that mindset. The guys

1382
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 5: who have that mindset will get the most of their talent.

1383
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 5: Jok supremely talented and if you can master that side

1384
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: of it, he has a chance to be a perennial

1385
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl playmaking linebacker for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and the key part is, though, applying yourself. I

1387
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 9: don't care what the position is. And if you play quarterback,

1388
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 9: obviously you have to do it.

1389
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Speaker 4: But if you are a.

1390
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Speaker 9: Linebacker, you have to take your work home with you.

1391
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 9: You have to apply yourself in being in that film

1392
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 9: room because ultimately people don't realize this. You're going against

1393
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 9: an offensive coordinator or a defense coordinator determine what side

1394
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 9: of the ball you're on, and they put insane amounts

1395
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 9: of powers into the detail of figuring out what that

1396
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 9: weakness is and how they're gonna exploit it. So if

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00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 9: you think you can just simply line up and cover two,

1398
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 9: drop or do your quarters drop and that's enough, you're

1399
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 9: kidding yourself. There are situations now, especially on defense of

1400
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Speaker 9: the ball, and I saw this back with New England.

1401
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Speaker 9: One of the reasons why we got ahead of the

1402
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 9: bar of this teams is that we literally have three

1403
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 9: coverages off of one call. Imagine what that's going to

1404
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 9: do to ahead of a quarterback. He thinks he sees

1405
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 9: Cover three, but over there is cover four and in

1406
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 9: the middle they might be playing man. That's where you

1407
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 9: want to get to a defense to where coach Schwartz

1408
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 9: can say, you know what, we got a hybrid thing.

1409
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 9: Go over here, because Denzel can simply shut down one

1410
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Speaker 9: side of the football field and we could do something

1411
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 9: over here while we confuse the quarterback and do something

1412
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 9: else over there. That's how you could take advantage of

1413
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Speaker 9: this talent that we have. The only way you can

1414
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 9: do that is if guys understand base defense and they're.

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Speaker 4: The same page. Yeah yeah, and the cultort quarterback to

1416
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: hold it for a second with our.

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: Passes nanosecond it's over.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that is tantalizing about Jokay is,

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: you know, the one beef with our defense the last

1420
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: couple of years is with the exception to Miles, there

1421
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: just wasn't enough playmaking. There weren't enough fumbles caused there

1422
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: were recovered, there weren't enough interceptions, There weren't enough sacks

1423
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: from people other than Miles. Jokay has the physical, yes,

1424
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: the explosiveness to be a playmaker at that position more

1425
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: than anybody else in that room. He's the guy who

1426
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: has that type of athleticism and that type of ability,

1427
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: and if you could harness it well, then all of

1428
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: a sudden, now you're talking about you have playmakers, play

1429
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: game wreckers up front in the secondary, and now you're

1430
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: onto something. If it can all click for him, and

1431
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: that's why his talent is so so tantalizing and hopefully

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: all of those things do. Coming up next, we will

1433
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Speaker 2: go around the league and a State of the Browns

1434
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: address from our ownership will go over some of the

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Speaker 2: highlights of that coming up next, Let's to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Live at Brown's training camp located at the Greenbrier

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Speaker 1: Resort in West Virginia. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Bally Bett Coming soon to Ohio on

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Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Cleve the Browns Daily.

1442
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: We had a State of the Browns address from our

1443
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: ownership d and Jimmy Haslam yesterday. Talked about a great

1444
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: many things, including just the feeling around to Sean Watson,

1445
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: the expectations for this football team. But I think, probably

1446
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: I think was the comments about what is going to

1447
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: be or a renovated stadium or some wherever the Brown's

1448
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: going to play football a decade from now is going

1449
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: to be spurred out here here in the coming months

1450
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: and years. This will this is always going to be

1451
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: a tricky one. I you know, when you think about

1452
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: Nathan and I have made no bones about this. Give

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01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: us a dome, Give us something we can play in

1454
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: all the time, Give us something that can help this region.

1455
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: Give us something that can host WrestleManias in final fours

1456
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,479
Speaker 2: and Buckeye College Football Playoff games and all of that's

1457
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: that to me is the that's the deal. And we've

1458
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: seen some great ones. The one in Minnesota is an

1459
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: absolute stunning thing. But but that is where you are

1460
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: right now, is trying to figure out what those steps

1461
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: will be ze and it's something that it feels like

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: has gone to the front burner a little bit.

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 5: I mean we heard yesterday that was and I was

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 5: surprised if we're saying to Gibbey after that press conferences,

1466
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Speaker 5: and I didn't think we were going to go like

1467
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 5: fifteen questions in a row about the stadium because it's

1468
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 5: it is a pressing issue, but same time, it's not

1469
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 5: It's not like this is being happening tomorrow one way

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Speaker 5: or the other.

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Speaker 4: So I found that I thought that that was interesting.

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Speaker 5: But it does feel you know, yesterday the HASLMS did say,

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 5: you know that they are one hundred percent committed to

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01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 5: keeping this team in northeast Ohio, and I think people

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01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 5: are reading into that they did not say Cleveland there

1476
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 5: that that potentially could open up the possibility that while

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01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 5: they would want to get it done on the lake

1478
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 5: carry things been talked about that land bridge and enhancing

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 5: the lakefront and then, you know, revitalizing that area that

1480
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 5: really probably should have been developed a long time ago,

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01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 5: if we're being honest about it with the City of Cleveland,

1482
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 5: but it wasn't is trying to you know, right that

1483
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 5: wrong now and that has prime that's heavily been there

1484
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 5: focus and they said it as much yesterday. We'll see

1485
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Speaker 5: if they're able to get that done.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 9: I've had the privilege due to football to live around

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 9: the country, and the one thing that I do know,

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Speaker 9: if you're gonna have a vibrant downtown, you have to

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01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 9: have attractions and you have to have people living downtown. Yep,

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Speaker 9: not just coming in for the weekend, but living downtown. Now,

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 9: we've seen growth in the downtown area. When I first

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 9: got here to northeast Ohio, it was a ghost town.

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 9: Now you thanks to Lebron James. You could say that

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01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 9: he played a key part in the downtime being downtown

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01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 9: Cleveland being revitalized or vitalized.

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Speaker 4: Heck, totally.

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Speaker 9: But when you think about the stadium and what it represents,

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Speaker 9: in my mind, it's a no brainer because I'm saying

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Speaker 9: that's gonna be economic opportunity and obviously the fight was

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01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 9: gonna be over who.

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Speaker 4: Pays for it.

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Speaker 9: But again, you go to big cities, you see that

1504
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Speaker 9: that lakefront area they have and it's a gym. It's developed,

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Speaker 9: and it's developed for what commerce. Ultimately, a city needs

1506
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 9: commerce in order to survive. And if you can create

1507
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 9: a situation where you could tie that in with the

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 9: football team, it's a beautiful thing. Now I'll watch Foxborough

1509
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 9: become went from this sleepy town to all of a

1510
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 9: sudden a hub for entertainment. Now, with the Patriots not

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01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 9: playing as well, I'm not sure how many people are

1512
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Speaker 9: actually going there for relaxation and to have a good time.

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Speaker 9: But at least four or five years ago, I can

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 9: say with certain the people who live in Boston and

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 9: in Providence, two places where there's something to do at night,

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 9: we're going to Foxboro for entertainment. And you have the

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Speaker 9: opportunity to do that with this lakefront development.

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Speaker 5: You need businesses that are making money and paying taxes,

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: you need residential places that are people. You need all

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 5: of that, and that's what you need because that's prime

1521
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 5: real estate, right, that's prime real estate down there.

1522
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 4: So I think that it's going to be an interesting time. Again.

1523
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: I was very surprised that that's where so much of

1524
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 5: the discussion went. You know, obviously there was a lot

1525
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 5: plenty focused on the football team, but this is it

1526
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 5: is a huge deal, and it's it's one of those

1527
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 5: that's difficult, right because it's it's you have on so

1528
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 5: some half of it is you know, the Haslm family,

1529
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 5: and the other part of it, You've got the city

1530
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 5: of Cleveland, You've got the county, and then you've got

1531
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 5: the state. Who were all players and all who would

1532
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 5: benefit from having a state of the art facility. They

1533
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 5: are in Cleveland in particular, but then if you expand it,

1534
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: whatever city that is, along with the county that it

1535
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 5: resides in, and then the state of Ohio. So I

1536
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: think that what you heard yesterday was that there's a

1537
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 5: lot to go through to make this all happen, and

1538
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: nothing goes smoothly in these type of situations. It has

1539
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 5: not gone smoothly in this situation, and that the Browns

1540
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: are doing every they can to focus on that plan

1541
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 5: first and foremost. I think d was very clear about that,

1542
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 5: but that they are alternate plans if they can't get

1543
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 5: it done.

1544
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: At some point this city, Look, all three of us

1545
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: choose to live here you could live anywhere you want,

1546
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Like we choose to live here because we love it here.

1547
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, I don't feel

1548
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: like I'm stepping out. The lack of use of the

1549
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: waterfront in this city is probably the biggest misuse of

1550
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: waterfront property in America.

1551
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 7: Like it.

1552
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: I can't think of one that's I mean, Drid, you've

1553
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: been around a lot. Have you seen one that We've

1554
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: got an airport down there? They got shipping. I mean,

1555
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: it's like, what are we doing? Like you have this

1556
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: beautiful lake frind and you don't use it?

1557
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's crazy winding river that should be developed with

1558
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 9: how water and houses on that.

1559
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: It's so we're like adverse to water up here. I

1560
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 2: don't understand it, or the city planners were years ago,

1561
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: they were just didn't. I don't understand it. Everybody else

1562
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: uses the water.

1563
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, and uses it to perfection. I've, like I said,

1564
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 9: I've seen developments like this. Why not here at Cleveland?

1565
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 9: We don't have to And believe me, I love northeast

1566
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 9: Ohio and Cleveland's come a very long way in the

1567
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 9: past ten fifteen years from a downtown standpoint, but there's

1568
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 9: still the ways.

1569
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 4: That go and it can only be better.

1570
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, agree, it's And I think if they were able

1571
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 5: to make this happen, you know, in that location and

1572
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 5: get the kind of stadium that we always are talking about,

1573
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 5: revitalize that air, I think it'd be a wonderful thing.

1574
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: What question will be, will it is it? Is it possible?

1575
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: Is it feasible?

1576
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 5: Can everybody get on the same page about it or not?

1577
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 5: And I guess that's the juice way beyond us. We're

1578
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 5: just going on the fact that people are content with

1579
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 5: the idea that the stadiums only use for what twelve

1580
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 5: ten football games and a couple of high school games

1581
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 5: and maybe a concert in That's a waste of space.

1582
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: That's a waste. Yeah, put a roof on the thing

1583
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: and it solves it.

1584
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 4: If you want to.

1585
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: If you're curious in terms of what the haslms are

1586
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: capable of when it comes to a stadium, just go

1587
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: down seventy one South and out of Columbus. I do

1588
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: stuff there in the mornings, and I'm telling you, like,

1589
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: what they did in that area and what they did

1590
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: for that stadium was a game changer for that city

1591
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: and for that stadium and for that part of town.

1592
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: They connected all of it. It's unbelievable what they're doing there,

1593
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: and that's for a soccer team.

1594
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 5: There's no doubt in my mind that if they are

1595
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 5: able to pull together the private public funding, the HASMS

1596
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 5: will make sure that it is either a first class

1597
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 5: renovation of the existing stadium that turns it into what

1598
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 5: everybody wants it to be, or if it ultimately ends

1599
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 5: up being that they are building a facility, it will

1600
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 5: be a first class facility. Like there's no doubt about it.

1601
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 5: They will do everything they can. They want everything to

1602
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 5: be first class. That is how they operate, and hopefully

1603
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 5: the product on the field certainly matches up to that.

1604
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 5: And I think we have a roster where that is

1605
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 5: obviously the goal and can very much be the case.

1606
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: This year a couple of things around the league sequon Barkley.

1607
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: This was for all of that, and he I don't

1608
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: even understand this, like it's it's a next to nothing.

1609
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: He does settle on the fully guaranteed of ten point one.

1610
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: So just so I understand this right, and you guys

1611
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: are practicing at the time, and I think I had

1612
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: a handle on it. Basically, they just can they just

1613
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: converted some of it into like two million bucks right now,

1614
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: and that was enough to get this done.

1615
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 4: They get him basically the guaranteed.

1616
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 5: He gets an incentives, and the incentives are tied to

1617
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 5: the Giants making the playoffs and him hitting you know,

1618
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 5: like thirteen hundred yards rushing.

1619
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: Sixty five touchdowns. It's pitchdowns big.

1620
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 5: And then the big thing that he needed to get

1621
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 5: out of it was a no franchise tag and he

1622
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 5: didn't get that, so he's gonna be there again under

1623
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 5: the franchise tag, which I wonder what he said to

1624
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 5: the guys on the Zoom call, knowing it feels like

1625
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 5: that this probably was fairly imminent soon thereafter.

1626
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 9: I've been in player meetings obviously, when you deal with finances,

1627
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 9: and ultimately he could talk about the collective and what's

1628
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 9: best for everyone involved, but you eventually get to what's

1629
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 9: taking place with you individually and what's going on in

1630
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 9: your own life, and you have to make decisions based

1631
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 9: upon that. Lamar Jackson tried to do it with the

1632
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 9: quarterback position and eventually how that workout. He didn't because

1633
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 9: guys were taking When Jalen Hurts took that deal, that

1634
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 9: was pretty much no, nothing argue there anymore.

1635
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you're never gonna have a situation where all

1636
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 4: the players.

1637
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 9: Think about the most recent collective bargaining situation, you had

1638
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 9: people like Russ Wilson telling guys don't sign a deal, right,

1639
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 9: remember that. Yeah, and the guys who are making less, like,

1640
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 9: the hell with that, We're signing a deal. Hard money

1641
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 9: doesn't stretch as long as yours does. So that is

1642
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 9: always gonna be that dynamic. And I do feel for

1643
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 9: him because he is a way better player than Daniel

1644
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 9: Jones and deserves it because the money, but he won't

1645
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 9: get it simply because the dynamics of the market for

1646
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 9: a running back and that's not fair by any stretched imagination.

1647
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: And he understands that, and so he was put in a.

1648
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 9: Position where he can't strike because it's either be no

1649
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 9: money or some money, and he choose or chose rather

1650
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 9: some money.

1651
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 5: Here's somebody sent this to me and this I'm curious

1652
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 5: to get your guys' thoughts on this, So it was

1653
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: a tweet set. A player like Isaiah Pachaco is really

1654
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 5: screwed by the system. He's twenty four and was a

1655
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: seventh round pick. He's got to play two more seasons

1656
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 5: under his rookie deal, can't hold out for the final

1657
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 5: season and then Chiefs can tag him. He could possibly

1658
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 5: not hit free agency U till he's twenty eight or

1659
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 5: twenty nine. He's never getting paid. Now if he doesn't

1660
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 5: hit fredy agency, tell he's twenty eight twenty nine, that

1661
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 5: means he got franchise tags. So he will be making

1662
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 5: some money average of the top five salaries at his position.

1663
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 4: There.

1664
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 5: But to me, the person posting that and you just

1665
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: gonna agree with your disagree is missing the whole point.

1666
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 5: The fact that every year there are Isaiah Pacheco's is

1667
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 5: exactly why teams are not going to invest significant money

1668
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 5: in the running back position because and well, the team

1669
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 5: should be rewarded to when you hit a seventh round

1670
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: draft pick, that's a huge thing. You're getting a starting

1671
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 5: caliber player on your team on a seventh round contract.

1672
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 5: That's a great job by your scouting department and then

1673
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: your player development, all of it. There's given take in

1674
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 5: all of this. But the fact is, in the National

1675
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 5: Football League right now, the last five big running back

1676
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 5: contracts that were handed out, not one of them finished

1677
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 5: them with the team that signed him. Four of them

1678
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 5: were cut before the contract ran out, and one was traded,

1679
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 5: that being Christian McCaffrey. It is, and no team has

1680
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl with the top running back making

1681
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: more than two million dollars in a long, long time.

1682
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 5: It's just because of the allocation of resources. You have

1683
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 5: an excess of supply prices. When supply and demand intersect,

1684
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 5: you have an excess of supply at that position.

1685
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 9: And you know what's really screwed it up for running

1686
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 9: backs was the fact that with a running back centric offense,

1687
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 9: that being the Tennessee Titans.

1688
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 4: They could not get over there.

1689
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 9: When they could not beat the Chiefs, who had correct

1690
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 9: quick scoring capabilities, we'd be talking them a whole different

1691
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 9: conversation right now. Now Derek got paid, don't get me wrong,

1692
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 9: he's getting but that has hamstrung them.

1693
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 4: They had to get rid of aj Brown.

1694
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 9: Look what the end result of it is is that

1695
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 9: they can't keep anyone and so our teams looking around like,

1696
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 9: we don't want that situation, So we're gonna avoid that

1697
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 9: like the plague. But had the Titans won using this

1698
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 9: running back approach being a focal point of your offense

1699
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 9: and a quarterback kind of being halfway decent. We wouldn't

1700
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 9: be having this conversation right now. It's a copycat league

1701
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 9: when it comes to this type of stuff as well.

1702
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a combination of everything you guys said on

1703
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: the running backs and also the fact that we've probably

1704
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: never had quarterback play like this correct and never had

1705
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: the step at the position you can eat it.

1706
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: So and the rules don't have one of those guys.

1707
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: You don't have anything part of it's the rules have

1708
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 4: changed too. The rules have changed rule to make this

1709
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 4: a passing league. Believe me, I recognize it when I

1710
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 4: was in the league, Like, why get the straight.

1711
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 9: This dude can get pushed, can do a push off

1712
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 9: and within that five after five yards, I can't touch

1713
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 9: him again, that's right. And then once he gets into

1714
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 9: his break he can slightly push me and you're not

1715
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 9: gonna call anything and so and on top of that,

1716
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 9: you can't as they used to say, is our keg

1717
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 9: to say, now kill the quarterback and you can't hit

1718
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 9: a wide receiver. There's no fear of God in these guys.

1719
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 9: So yes, they're gonna catch passes. So it's right there

1720
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 9: set up for you to catch passes.

1721
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 5: We were talking about guys winning MVPs like thirty years ago,

1722
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, even completing fifty five percent of their

1723
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: passes and thrown almost as many interceptions as they did touchdowns. Now,

1724
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 5: when you're elite, you're in high sixties, if not the seventies.

1725
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 5: Your touchdown interception ratio is in some cases twenty to one,

1726
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 5: like Aaron Rodgers, I mean, Deshaun's last full season, he

1727
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 5: had thirty three touchdowns seven picks, almost five to one.

1728
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 5: It's a whole different game the days of where you

1729
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: have to line up and get hope for four yards

1730
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 5: in a cloud of dust and impose your will physically.

1731
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 5: That's not what it is anymore. And we're blessed to

1732
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 5: have the best running back in the league, Nick Chubb.

1733
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Speaker 5: We are, and we've gone to the playoffs one time,

1734
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: and we've had an offense that has been highly successful

1735
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 5: built around him. But it's not enough because you have

1736
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 5: to follow a particular game script. It's when you have

1737
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 5: those receivers and you have a quarterback. You can be

1738
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 5: down like Mahomes's record when he's down fourteen at some

1739
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 5: point in the game is like astonishing.

1740
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 4: But if you don't have that, it doesn't matter who's

1741
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 4: running the ball, because you're not gonna win.

1742
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 5: When you have that, it becomes easier to run the

1743
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 5: ball because teams are not loading the box and you're

1744
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 5: getting the fronts that you want to run against.

1745
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 9: We're so quarterback successful right now in the lead. The

1746
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 9: greatest to ever played a position, in my opinion. Tom

1747
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 9: Brady retired and we're not gonna miss him.

1748
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 4: We're not.

1749
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: No, there's so much at the AFC.

1750
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 4: They're still loaded.

1751
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just absolutely loaded.

1752
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: It's also the weird juxtaposition of I don't know if

1753
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: anyone would argue with the statement that Saquon Barkley is

1754
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: a more popular known athlete than Jalen Brown. I realized

1755
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: that's cross sport mingling we're doing here. But he got

1756
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: ten million, and that's the most he could get, and

1757
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown got three undred and four million, fully guaranteed

1758
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: over five years today.

1759
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, like got eighteen million when there wasn't

1760
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 4: a quarter.

1761
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: No, No, I understand, but I'm just saying the NBA

1762
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: is impossible. But it's like, yeah, Barkley is one of

1763
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: the faces of the NFL. Yes, and he's this is

1764
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: the best he can do. Jalen Brown isn't even the

1765
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: face of the Celtics. And that's what that's That's what

1766
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: I think is hard for these guys to wrap their

1767
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: heads around it.

1768
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: Just Poppy might get one point something billion a year.

1769
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 5: The truth is what they either need there if if

1770
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 5: they're gotta be desired ultimately, I don't know that's that

1771
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 5: doesn't even matter because seems still know what they are,

1772
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

1773
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: The true to help them on the it would help

1774
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: them on the franchise tag.

1775
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 5: If you want running backs to get paid more, you

1776
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 5: make a situation where people pay playing that position, their

1777
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: salaries count fifty percent against the cap, so that you

1778
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,879
Speaker 5: can then justify handing out a big running back contract

1779
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 5: or one that is considered big by today's standards, and

1780
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 5: it's not gonna hamstring you from also establishing a great

1781
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 5: roster around it.

1782
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 9: Well, here's where the Giants are in trouble though, from

1783
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 9: a culture standpoint. So if you got a guy in

1784
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 9: your team doing everything the right way, and the last

1785
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 9: thing that you want to make it about is money,

1786
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 9: you want guys to buying. And something we talked about

1787
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 9: that earlier today, this idea of team over self and

1788
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 9: plan for a greater cause. But when you put money

1789
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 9: out there and then guys see that you're not doing

1790
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 9: right by guys, guess.

1791
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: What they're not gonna do.

1792
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 9: They're not gonna play as hard for you because this

1793
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 9: that stuff does make are in the locker room. So

1794
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 9: the giants are in a very tricky situation because yes,

1795
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 9: Sakwon can play the good soldier, do the right things,

1796
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 9: and he's doing that and I plot him for that

1797
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 9: because his heart swallowing the pill that he had a swallow.

1798
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 9: But the giants must understand that a lot of guys

1799
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 9: in that locker room are observing this and saying, if

1800
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 9: you won't do this guy right, what the heck are

1801
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 9: you gonna do to me?

1802
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1803
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: I think great stuff is. I think that's a very

1804
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 4: fair thing.

1805
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: It is great stuff.

1806
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 12: Rod.

1807
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: We'll see you on the next level here in a

1808
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 3: little less than a half hour.

1809
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Bud, Thanks for having me

1810
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: all right, Miles Garrett from the podium, coming up naxtual

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Speaker 4: That's about us, I mean.

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Speaker 8: The d line. We're all worried about each other's success,

1823
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 8: not about one person. It's not about you know, you know,

1824
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 8: trying to teach young guys. Everybody can learn from every individual. Sure,

1825
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 8: there are some young guys who who have some things

1826
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 8: that I haven't seen or or you know, have some

1827
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 8: instincts that maybe I pick up on. And no same

1828
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 8: here older guys who tend to have a little bit

1829
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 8: more experience. I've seen a little bit more. But you know,

1830
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 8: as new crop comes in, new guys come in. But

1831
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 8: there's always gonna be something a little bit different. We're

1832
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 8: just learning from each other and just trying to trying to,

1833
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 8: you know, pass along the information that we have.

1834
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 10: So I thought you really tried to take her on

1835
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 10: under your wing and help wi the loog, So I guess.

1836
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 13: Disappointing or whatever were you the.

1837
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 8: That's a little disappointing. It's just wanting for you know,

1838
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 8: all of us, cause you know, we love Harry. We

1839
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 8: always wanted to see you know, the very best you

1840
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 8: know happen for him and and try to you know,

1841
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 8: lead him, lead him towards a h just a a

1842
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 8: better path and a and uh just got to keep

1843
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 8: his head clear. And I think now it's more important

1844
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 8: than ever the you know, we as a community, not

1845
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 8: only as a as a football team or as a

1846
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 8: d line, they'll reach out to him. You'll try to

1847
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 8: take care of him and take it under our wing,

1848
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 8: cause he's he's still here, he's still still one of us.

1849
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 8: And you know people have you know, dark past and

1850
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 8: know a difficult history, and you know they they have

1851
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 8: a lot of people around them that aren't always having

1852
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 8: their best interests at heart. So if we allow ourselves

1853
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 8: to him to go down that road, we're we're allowing

1854
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 8: these things to happen, these you know him to you

1855
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 8: know pass along you know, the the behavior that you

1856
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 8: know has really you know, guide him to where he

1857
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 8: is at this point. And know, if we look out

1858
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 8: for him and you know, help him clean up his

1859
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 8: acting and go down the path of h he he

1860
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 8: can go and the things he should do. No, he

1861
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 8: can really be upseting young man. And I I really

1862
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 8: hope the best for him, you know. Still, you know,

1863
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 8: try to try to be there for him if we can.

1864
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 5: How do you feel like you've got him to know

1865
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 5: the the new guys you your room as much as

1866
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 5: any in the room, any of 'em.

1867
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 4: It's really kind of changed. How do you feel like

1868
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: you've in the last week kind of gotten to know

1869
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 4: them better?

1870
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 8: Just taking time to spend spend a little bit of

1871
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 8: a time with each other, you know, being around the guys,

1872
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 8: going to dinner. You know, when when we have our

1873
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 8: off time, we're we're sitting together, we're or shooting the

1874
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 8: you know, but you know, just being around each other

1875
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 8: early in the morning to tonight. Uh all that time

1876
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 8: that that we have, not not splitting up, going our

1877
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 8: own separate ways. You know, even even after dinner, guys,

1878
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 8: you know, linking up to you know, just have discussions,

1879
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 8: talk about the world, talk about uh uh on politics

1880
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 8: or religion, whatever it is. You know, things that you

1881
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 8: know bring us closer and we can get get insight

1882
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 8: on on your brother that that means a lot to guys,

1883
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 8: and it helps you understand and and really, you know,

1884
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 8: start to love your brother and wanna wanna give you

1885
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 8: all for him.

1886
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: Is there something in particular and then is that you've

1887
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 4: you've kind of gained.

1888
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 8: That that really stands out on on on on any

1889
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 8: of these guys, I mean, any insight in particular. These

1890
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 8: guys are light hearted, they like to have fun. Ye

1891
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 8: think they like to joke around. But soon as we

1892
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 8: get on the field, you know, it's all business and

1893
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 8: that's how it should be. But uh, there's a lot

1894
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 8: of experience. It's got a lot of knowledge in the room.

1895
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 8: Uh guys who know how the routine should look and

1896
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 8: you know, and how to be a professional. And that

1897
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 8: helps a lot, you know, especially you know, building that

1898
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 8: mold uh for the young guys, so they they know

1899
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 8: how uh campus post to work it she's suposed to work,

1900
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 8: and how to how to be a true professional and

1901
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 8: that that really, you know, helps all of us. Don't

1902
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 8: get to work that you How did you did you

1903
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 8: see Molie Jackson's comments on you over teammates and if

1904
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 8: you did, like what you what did you think of these.

1905
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 8: I mean, I saw him, but he's has a right

1906
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 8: choice of thinking. I mean, we're all learning as we go.

1907
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 8: And on leadership, Uh is as a fluid thing. UH

1908
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 8: looks it takes different shapes and forms depending on the

1909
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 8: room and depending on you know, the person. And Uh,

1910
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 8: I'm like, I can I can lead in the only

1911
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 8: way that I know how, and I I only can

1912
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 8: continue to to grow as a leader. Uh, and uh

1913
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 8: We'll continue to to lead together. It's not just one person.

1914
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 8: And we have a lot of experience in the room.

1915
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 8: And uh, we we have to be together.

1916
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 4: We have to do this together.

1917
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 8: And you know, one boy shouldn't speak louder than in

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01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 8: any other.

1919
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 13: We have to.

1920
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 8: You know, all be pushing at the the same rate,

1921
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 8: in the same direction. And that's how the winning teams,

1922
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 8: winning routs are made.

1923
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 10: Or were you surprised to get up like that was

1924
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 10: in that group like a former teammate doesn't catch.

1925
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 8: Up gard I mean, like I said, he has it.

1926
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 8: He has his own opinion and maybe my my leadership

1927
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 8: style just didn't you know, fit him. I'm just I

1928
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 8: can only like I said, I can only leave how

1929
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 8: I know how to, and I don't I don't know

1930
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 8: if the the result of the the season no play

1931
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 8: any part in how he felt about my leadership style.

1932
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 8: But now I've thou most respectful him. I think he's

1933
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 8: a a consummate pro. I think he's a a great guy.

1934
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 8: He looked out for a lot of us and uh

1935
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 8: U team to you know, try to to grow and

1936
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 8: uh you know, be a better leader in anyway.

1937
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 14: I can't he's leadership natural in your personality or is

1938
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 14: that something that if you've grown professionally, you have tried

1939
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 14: to work on to become the leader.

1940
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 8: I think leadership is is natural to most people. I

1941
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 8: think it just comes to different shapes and forms, and

1942
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 8: some people leave with example, some people lead out front

1943
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 8: with their with their their chests or their words. It

1944
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 8: just all really depends on on you and and your style.

1945
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 8: You know, if if you're not one to to talk

1946
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 8: a lot, and you just lead by you know, being

1947
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 8: up front, being on time, you know, doing what you're

1948
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Speaker 8: supposed to do.

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Speaker 13: You know, make sure in your notebook and.

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Speaker 8: You don't you don't reach out to to UH anyone

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Speaker 8: and try to you know, make that common knowledge that's

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Speaker 8: on you. But you also you also have no guys

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Speaker 8: who are you know, very outspoken guys are on the

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Speaker 8: sideline who are making sure that things are getting done.

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Speaker 8: You know they're turning to tie with their voice and

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Speaker 8: and their presence. There's just different ways to do it.

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Speaker 8: And uh you know, as you know we grow up

1958
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Speaker 8: and and develop and and mature, you know, things start

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Speaker 8: to blend. You start to pick up on those things

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Speaker 8: that they start to come uh more naturally.

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Speaker 14: Did you know how as you know you haven't had

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Speaker 14: the hands on yet, can you see the possibilities you know,

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Speaker 14: with in the system.

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Speaker 13: Or undershorts, you can see the possibilities as soon as

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Speaker 13: you look at the playbook, you know, just seeing how

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Speaker 13: uh aggressive he likes to uh to you know, call

1967
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Speaker 13: his defense and his schemes no why nine, No bringing

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Speaker 13: the extra guy trying to get you know, those those

1969
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Speaker 13: one on ones or their those uh those favorable matchups.

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Speaker 8: Those are things that you know, we as a defense

1971
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Speaker 8: you get excited for.

1972
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Speaker 7: Did those condiments files cause you to.

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Speaker 8: Reflect and think, Okay, maybe whatever A couple of years ago,

1974
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Speaker 8: I wasn't where I needed to.

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Speaker 7: Be or did you just disagree with his pot.

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Speaker 8: I mean I thought that was exactly where I needed

1977
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Speaker 8: to be. I think it. It takes time for for

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Speaker 8: anyone to be a leader. Some people come in and

1979
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Speaker 8: you know they're from day one. They they talk and

1980
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 8: they leave with their voice, and they also leave by

1981
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Speaker 8: their presence. But you know, even have you know some

1982
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Speaker 8: great players such as Brady or or MJ who who

1983
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Speaker 8: didn't leave from day one. They had to know, take

1984
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Speaker 8: their time, no earner, earn their spots under strikes, and

1985
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Speaker 8: you know, it's it starts to develop in them. And

1986
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 8: once once it's really you know, picked up and they've

1987
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Speaker 8: matured into a point where they they feel like this

1988
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Speaker 8: is this is my role and I can take this

1989
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Speaker 8: on and then the fullest form. Yeah, then they take

1990
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 8: it from there and they continue to grow as leaders

1991
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 8: know through time. But it it's it's not something you

1992
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 8: you have perfected from from day one, or at least

1993
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 8: not for most people. And I'm I'm continue to learn

1994
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 8: and see, uh adjust to what my my teammates need

1995
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 8: and how to get the best out of my team.

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Speaker 8: And there are there are many other leaders who are

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01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 8: very good in their own way, and we and we're

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Speaker 8: listening to to all of 'em.

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Speaker 7: You minds, you're setting for your ort. That's coming back

2000
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 7: to yeah, where do you want your career to go

2001
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 7: from yours?

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Speaker 6: H M?

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Speaker 8: I mean I want us to win. We we all

2004
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 8: want to win, and that's the the only goal for

2005
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 8: us at this point. Just one one day at a time,

2006
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 8: one step at a time, one rep at a time,

2007
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 8: just uh uh, having your mind focused on just that

2008
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 8: one now once. Once you break it down and make

2009
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 8: it simple, it's easier for you yourself to get in

2010
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 8: his own not I think it distracted or loose focus

2011
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 8: of you know, what's what's out there, what's to be.

2012
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 8: Everybody wants to win the super Bowl, but you win

2013
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 8: it by taking that first step, not worrying about on

2014
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 8: that first game. Once you perfect those those steps that

2015
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 8: rep that technique, you know, then you you start to

2016
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 8: to break it down. Once you finally get to those

2017
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 8: those moments and they come so smoothly and you know

2018
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 8: you're you're a technician what you do, and that's how

2019
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 8: really great teams are made.

2020
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 5: Wells, what do anymore add added to that room off

2021
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 5: the field, even more than on the field.

2022
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Speaker 8: I mean, it was one of those guys I mentioned

2023
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 8: earlier with was a h lighthearted, you know, great sense

2024
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 8: of humor, fun guy, but has a lot of knowledge

2025
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,799
Speaker 8: to bring it to the room, and uh plenty of experience,

2026
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 8: the more experience in believe anyone else in all d

2027
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Speaker 8: line room. And you know, he he's been there, He's

2028
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 8: been to the you know, the precipice, he's been at

2029
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 8: the top of the hill, and uh, you know who

2030
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 8: it is supposed to look like. He's worked with, you know,

2031
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 8: some of the very best in the game. And uh,

2032
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 8: you know, we just have to be willing to listen.

2033
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 8: We have to be you know, give give him our

2034
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 8: underbottery attention and uh allow him to to lead us

2035
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 8: when it when the time come.

2036
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Speaker 13: But chick sharge, his firing personality.

2037
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Speaker 7: Does it take a while to get used to that.

2038
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 8: I've had a couple of fiery personalities. Is he gotten

2039
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 8: in your face at all? Yet? I mean, you d

2040
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 8: seems like he's that kind of guy. If he does,

2041
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 8: you know, just listen. I know and we know that

2042
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 8: he wants the best for us. He's excited, he's decided

2043
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 8: for this opportunity. Uh that he has worked with this

2044
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 8: team and we should be just excited and fired up.

2045
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 8: You know that he's here and he's no, he's he's

2046
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 8: so fired up about you know, winning with this team

2047
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 8: and and you know, putting his his best foot forward.

2048
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 8: You know, he he he came here because he knew

2049
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 8: this team or really had a chance to to be special.

2050
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: And we have to.

2051
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Speaker 8: And we'd be remiss and letting him down and letting

2052
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 8: ourselves down if if we didn't, you know, take that

2053
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 8: opportunity by the horns and and just go.

2054
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Speaker 4: It's serious, a.

2055
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 7: Lot of serious.

2056
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 14: His personality, you know, some of you personality such that everything.

2057
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 13: Don't do anything reviews, So you bring out the you know,

2058
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 13: important play club, the.

2059
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 4: Kind on the side of you and that serve you

2060
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 4: really well, or you do for this season through the far.

2061
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 8: I've had a couple of flemboyant of fun personalities around

2062
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 8: before as well, But I don't think it brings down

2063
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 8: anything else. I just think he's a He's a great character,

2064
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 8: great teammate and uh continue, I I'd like to continue

2065
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 8: my name from him, growing with him, and uh, I

2066
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 8: don't just playing ball at the highest level. I know

2067
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 8: we'll continue to work off each other and uh you

2068
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 8: know a lot of us will continue to learn from him,

2069
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 8: and uh yeah, he'll he'll allow us to to to

2070
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 8: be great, you know, him not getting a double team.

2071
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 8: Me not getting double team? What's just time to play

2072
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 8: off each other.

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Speaker 3: This is a reminder.

2084
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 4: This is why. Why is the defensive? The story will

2085
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 4: be told, bo, we'll hear it. And if you already

2086
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 4: a big heart, that's the problem, and I've been called

2087
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 4: out for it. That is not the problem.

2088
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 5: You're a wonderful You're you are a great, big hearted human.

2089
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,360
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2090
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Speaker 2: Boy, No, I know, well, boys, enjoy uh, enjoy a

2091
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 2: little bit of your day. I look forward to the

2092
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: frivolity and the uh I mean give me.

2093
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 4: If you put it on the file. Though this this

2094
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 4: has to be all right, We'll get to it.

2095
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 3: Thursday. Yeah, well I'm not. Probably have to be Friday.

2096
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: It'll be Friday because Friday is we'll put the week

2097
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: in perspective.

2098
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 5: On Friday, right after the first pad of practice, will

2099
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 5: be like, hey, Jamokes, tell me your funny.

2100
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 3: So tell me the funny story more than the first

2101
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: parts and more registered in that.

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Speaker 4: We'll work it in somehow. We'll get there.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good. The next level is coming up next.

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