Speaker 1: It's two forty two am in Miami, Florida, and you're
Speaker 1: listening tonight call Hello, and welcome to night Call, the
Speaker 1: podcasting Strange Days and Lonely Nights. I'm Molly Lambert in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and with me is Test Lynch. And over
Speaker 1: in New York we have Emily Orshida. Hi, guys, Hello,
Speaker 1: got got a match a latte? Back in my zone awake,
Speaker 1: a slightly more awake than last week. I agreeted Test
Speaker 1: by saying like, I've had the perfect amount of coffee,
Speaker 1: and she thought I was commenting on how much coffee
Speaker 1: she appeared to have had, which is not the exactly
Speaker 1: right about of coffee. It's a real victory when you
Speaker 1: hit it, and then it's very easy to go over
Speaker 1: and under from there. I went over the line on
Speaker 1: milk tea again the other day. I like, when will
Speaker 1: you learn? I waited back in It's just it's too delicious.
Speaker 1: It's the problem. I need something like coffee that takes
Speaker 1: a little longer to drink. Although very specific gripe, I
Speaker 1: know the straws. The straws debate, um, the plastic straws
Speaker 1: are bad. I have to say that paper straws. Paper
Speaker 1: straws are the worst foible. It's like people are like,
Speaker 1: this is my Curb your Enthusiasm episode where like something
Speaker 1: there's a mix up with a paper straw. But like,
Speaker 1: I am a person who drinks to drink very slowly
Speaker 1: and paper straws of ruined my ability to do that
Speaker 1: because you have to get five minutes. You're gonna embrace
Speaker 1: against the straw. I went out with my whole family,
Speaker 1: and it was like it was just so funny to
Speaker 1: see people struggling with their straws, with their paper straws,
Speaker 1: like it's disintegrating in your mouth and get pulp and
Speaker 1: like the liquid won't travel through. It's such a ridiculously
Speaker 1: stupid so it's like a pixie stick. They're like they
Speaker 1: just don't work very well. No, they're not very good
Speaker 1: as straws. Uh turns out, but I think I might
Speaker 1: get a metal straw because of this. I have a
Speaker 1: reusable plastic straw. Refused to give up my straw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are the logistics of the reusable straw? Do you
Speaker 1: carry it in your person? Gets filled with like question
Speaker 1: and I use it home and then I have a
Speaker 1: to go cup that it fits in so when I'm
Speaker 1: going out, I put it in the cup and then
Speaker 1: take it out. I did buy a reusable cup, like
Speaker 1: a decent thermis. I'm trying to use more. I hate
Speaker 1: drinking with my mouth regular without the accessory of a
Speaker 1: strike straw. Love a straw called straws called straws. What
Speaker 1: about bamboo though, I'm serious, is there is that just
Speaker 1: as bad as plastic? Somehow seems like it's probably more
Speaker 1: recyclable than plastic. I mean, the only with bamboo grows faster.
Speaker 1: It is a more renewable. It's renewable, and doesn't it
Speaker 1: kind of it grows like in the shape of a straw.
Speaker 1: It's already be a straw, stand up, hemp straw, straw,
Speaker 1: braided straw. Also, though, we should all raise ourselves if
Speaker 1: you say anything even remotely against the complete banning of straws,
Speaker 1: Like if you're even dissing the paper straw, there's going
Speaker 1: to be someone who's very well, it's just listen, I'll
Speaker 1: take the hip for us. I think it's ridiculous. It's
Speaker 1: one of these things. It's it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a trees for the forest type of things. It's a.
Speaker 1: It's targeting one thing and being like, look, we solved
Speaker 1: this enormous I'm drinking from Gregory's coffee right now. I'm
Speaker 1: calling Gregory's coffee out. They put it in two cups
Speaker 1: because I guess they're out of sleep, So I've got
Speaker 1: double the paper and then I've got a plastic glud
Speaker 1: on top of it. That's ridiculous. Uh yeah, then when
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Speaker 1: doesn't listen to my podcast, I'm like, hey, this joke.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard this show Trade Secrets Um. We are
Speaker 1: all watching American Crime Story The Assassination of Johnny versaci Um,
Speaker 1: which was on FX last year but is now on Netflix.
Speaker 1: So uh, those of us uh slash all of us
Speaker 1: who don't have cable can watch it at our leisure
Speaker 1: on Netflix. I don't know. I was a big fan
Speaker 1: of the first American We all loved the People Versus
Speaker 1: o J. I think every episode of North Mollywood my
Speaker 1: old podcast was about the People Versus OJA or the
Speaker 1: ESPN six part oj documentary. Oh yeah, there was. I
Speaker 1: mean that it's funny because it in some ways it
Speaker 1: feels like it would be redundant to have both things
Speaker 1: come out within a year, but they were so different,
Speaker 1: like they scratched different itches, and I think it's really
Speaker 1: it remains hard to make the argument for People versus
Speaker 1: o J as a piece of entertainment that's not pure
Speaker 1: camp because I think that that's kind of how it
Speaker 1: was announced, especially when they were just announcing who was
Speaker 1: playing who, it was like, oh my god, like John
Speaker 1: Travolta is going to be playing Robert sha Biro, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Um, So that I think some of
Speaker 1: that sort of overshadow, and like the whole Kardashian stuff
Speaker 1: was a little wee key in it, but also great. Again,
Speaker 1: I feel like that show was less camp than I
Speaker 1: expected because I was very afraid about it because I
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, what an interesting thing to do a
Speaker 1: show about but also like Ryan Murphy not known for
Speaker 1: his nuanced takes on racism, but then I didn't write it,
Speaker 1: so it was pretty nuanced and good. And again I
Speaker 1: think it's like if something is camp, but you play
Speaker 1: it seriously enough, then it's like melodrama. And that's what
Speaker 1: this show that we're going to talk about is all about. Well,
Speaker 1: I skipped it the first when it first came out.
Speaker 1: I have effects, but I didn't watch it because I
Speaker 1: felt and also I think I had I had seen
Speaker 1: the people versus O J. But then in the assassination
Speaker 1: of Gianni Versati American Crime Stories, like it's official title, UM,
Speaker 1: I think when the family was coming out and saying
Speaker 1: how deeply hurtful it was, I was kind of like, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can like go for this
Speaker 1: because again, like you think it's going to be camp.
Speaker 1: This is based on Maureen Orth's book Vulgar Favors, which
Speaker 1: I think the family had like denounced the you know
Speaker 1: when it came out and said it was based on
Speaker 1: speculation and gossip, and like I just kind of imagined
Speaker 1: how it would feel pretty much. So it was Versagi's
Speaker 1: family and Antonio Demiko, Um pretty much everyone who was
Speaker 1: close to Versacey and then Andrew Cunanan's family also were
Speaker 1: obviously very upset by it, and I think, um, two
Speaker 1: of his siblings co wrote a book that was like
Speaker 1: a more sympathetic version. I think I've heard, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that this is verifiable, but someone in his
Speaker 1: family said that he was like framed by the FBI
Speaker 1: and that he was innocent. I think it may have
Speaker 1: actually been his father, Modesto, But that was all after
Speaker 1: I finished watching this and was like I need more,
Speaker 1: And there was a threat on Reddit about it where
Speaker 1: um it was like a distant family member of Andrew
Speaker 1: kinnin In came on and was like answering questions about
Speaker 1: how the family felt about the series and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean I went on the
Speaker 1: jazz Abel podcast The Dirt Cast and talked about some
Speaker 1: of this true crime stuff about like where do you
Speaker 1: draw the line of like it being exploitative of actual humans?
Speaker 1: It is exploitative, Well, the question is united can it
Speaker 1: stand on its own? I feel like the question is
Speaker 1: also like does it have something to say besides just
Speaker 1: like some gratuitous violence like the Ted Bundy one. To
Speaker 1: me is just like too depressing. And that's where I
Speaker 1: draw the line. I'm like, are we just here to
Speaker 1: gauc at the murdering? You're here to actually have some hindsight,
Speaker 1: have the ability to have the hindsight. And I think
Speaker 1: what Emily said, think about it. Yeah, what Emily said
Speaker 1: about the o J Show and other things is like,
Speaker 1: what makes the o J Show or the o J
Speaker 1: Case in general interesting is that it's like not just
Speaker 1: about a murderer. It's about like a murderer, and it's
Speaker 1: about like systematic racism and policing and the world the
Speaker 1: murder takes place, yeah, and the world and like this
Speaker 1: rich yeah, a bunch of different. It's about Los Angeles obviously.
Speaker 1: Also so this murder the Versaci show is about also
Speaker 1: about class very intensely. Uh, But it's also about homophobia
Speaker 1: and policing, and that is what makes it sort of
Speaker 1: more than just like, uh a lionization of a serial killer. Completely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I that was definitely like some of the
Speaker 1: more kind of redeeming moments. I loved it. I super
Speaker 1: loved it with no reservations. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: the only reason that I could feel like it wasn't
Speaker 1: just exploitation was because it did have kind of like
Speaker 1: broader themes than you would get just from a sort
Speaker 1: of straight telling of it. Can I make a request
Speaker 1: right up top? I am not finished it. No spoilers
Speaker 1: have so I've gotten basically through the second Finn wit
Speaker 1: Rack episode, the one about Jeff Trail, who was um
Speaker 1: Andrew Canyanion's first victim. I believe. I've been also like
Speaker 1: very hesitantly googling, even though it feels so stupid because
Speaker 1: it's like on the it's a matter of public record
Speaker 1: and it's all out there. But I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to know what happens. Like it's very suspenseful, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're saying like it's difficult to be as a show
Speaker 1: because it makes you feel kind of terrible and like
Speaker 1: full yeah and anxiety. But the interesting thing is, as
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, is that I have now
Speaker 1: gotten through all the episodes with murders in them, which
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a very interesting dramatic structure for
Speaker 1: this show to topload it with the murders because of
Speaker 1: the nature of it's going backwards and time structure, and
Speaker 1: so you get all that stuff first, but you still
Speaker 1: have a ton of questions about what happened and who
Speaker 1: this guy is and why this happened. So then that's
Speaker 1: what it. That's the actual climax is Like, that's funny
Speaker 1: you say that too, because I'm like, oh, the top
Speaker 1: loading with Murders is like psycho and he's giving such
Speaker 1: a like Anthony Perkins and Psycho energy where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is like a sociopath, but like for some
Speaker 1: reason they have this like you feel sad for them. Yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: tote really. I mean I think Darren Chris is doing
Speaker 1: a very good job and he's amazing, which not everyone
Speaker 1: used to give him such a hard time when he
Speaker 1: was Somebody said something really smart on my Twitter where
Speaker 1: they were just like, oh, it's like somebody saw the
Speaker 1: sort of like polished thing he was selling on Glee
Speaker 1: and was like, let's lean into how that could possibly be,
Speaker 1: which you could probably do for every single cast member
Speaker 1: on Glee. Yeah, any of them is anyone with a
Speaker 1: theater energy. There are some great performances in this show
Speaker 1: from the most random assortment of people, like yeah, Max Schmidt,
Speaker 1: Schmidt fucking steals the show. I have never seen him
Speaker 1: so against type and he was. It was such a
Speaker 1: like forever to identify him. No, if you don't know
Speaker 1: it's coming, because like I didn't know who was in
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, you're just like who is this amazing actor?
Speaker 1: And then you're like, holy shit screen Field. Um he
Speaker 1: plays a meth head hustler. But he um they like
Speaker 1: make friends when when when Andrews like hold up in
Speaker 1: this beach side motel before and after killing VERSACEI um,
Speaker 1: Judith Light was so amazing as Marylyn Midland. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: who knew I mean people knew Marylyn maghlan is interesting.
Speaker 1: If you've ever seen her on the home shopping network, Um,
Speaker 1: she's still on it. She I'm not sure she still is,
Speaker 1: but she was for a while after I had never
Speaker 1: heard of her. And that is a whole interesting plot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it just made me find out that I
Speaker 1: knew nothing about this story. Actually. Well also her so
Speaker 1: like Lee Migland's estate, I think like vehemently denies any
Speaker 1: kind of relationship that um he may have had with
Speaker 1: Andrew Cunanan that was put forth in Earth's book. And
Speaker 1: so that's like another kind of yeah family that's like
Speaker 1: not right without without spoiling anything. Like what is interesting
Speaker 1: about this show is that it sort of deals with
Speaker 1: this like under world of you know, stuff that people
Speaker 1: don't want made public, uh, closeted people, and that he
Speaker 1: sort of took advantage of this by being like a
Speaker 1: hustler among people that he could then you know blackmail
Speaker 1: or well. I was like, I haven't watched it all
Speaker 1: the way at the end, but the feeling I'm getting
Speaker 1: from this first half of episodes and he's kind of
Speaker 1: like this boogeyman of gay shame in a way, like
Speaker 1: because he the position that he has and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of moving in and out of people's lives and
Speaker 1: sort of especially closeted people, like kind of sort of
Speaker 1: taking advantage but also like fulfilling a need and um
Speaker 1: in a way kind of disrupts a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of different for everybody, and UM, I
Speaker 1: just think it's super interesting. Like in this one, it
Speaker 1: is interesting because so far he's such a cipher canyan
Speaker 1: is UM, but everybody else is kind of really fleshed
Speaker 1: out to the degree that they can be. In one episode,
Speaker 1: the episode that where he passes through their life and
Speaker 1: you kind of see all these different shades of this
Speaker 1: guy kind of um yeah being Yeah, I I Boogeyman
Speaker 1: is like the only one I could think of to
Speaker 1: like character, very talented Mr Ripley. Also, Yeah, just generally
Speaker 1: it's this idea. It's about class also in this idea
Speaker 1: of like people being feeling entitled to a certain lifestyle
Speaker 1: and then being just like ruthless sociopaths to get there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something about him where he cleared like a talented Mr.
Speaker 1: Ripley type character. He just hates himself so much that
Speaker 1: like the only way he can accept himselves is by
Speaker 1: like being having some kind of proximity to power or
Speaker 1: you know, a higher economic class or something like that,
Speaker 1: or like some level of security that other people have.
Speaker 1: I was watching and I was like, you know, in
Speaker 1: some ways, sociopaths or this kind of person, they're like
Speaker 1: a one person cult. Like the way that they kind
Speaker 1: of prey on somebody else's insecurities. It felt very uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting. Also, they featured religion in really
Speaker 1: interesting ways. And Emily, I don't know if you got
Speaker 1: this far, but um, there were there was like an
Speaker 1: altar in yeah, yeah, and Lee Megan's house that's super interesting. Also,
Speaker 1: we should maybe even talk about this again. But um,
Speaker 1: the penultimate episode, I think where they kind of go
Speaker 1: into Andrew's relationship with his dad is a really I
Speaker 1: know everybody is like, just wait till you get to
Speaker 1: the dad episode. It's just it's it's like it has
Speaker 1: all the strengths of the show, which is that it's
Speaker 1: like it's basically an anthology show inside an anthology. It's
Speaker 1: like each episode is a different episode in his life
Speaker 1: that tells you something about him, um, and usually brings
Speaker 1: some actor that you're like, wow, who is that? Yep? Oh. Also,
Speaker 1: I have to say that, like I had never seen
Speaker 1: the woman who played his like former best friend Lizzy
Speaker 1: who Um, if you followed what you know, if you
Speaker 1: followed the assassination and you may have seen her. She
Speaker 1: had like a televised plea for him to turn himself
Speaker 1: in that was right around when he committed suicide. No
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. But she was so good. It's Annalie Ashford
Speaker 1: and I've never seen her before. She she's like a
Speaker 1: Broadway person. She was really fantastic. But it's interesting because
Speaker 1: watching the whole thing, there's really only one person who
Speaker 1: was always like who was never wronged by him and
Speaker 1: who always was kind of loyal to him, and that's
Speaker 1: her um, And their whole relationship is explored in like
Speaker 1: bits and pieces, but she doesn't get her whole episode.
Speaker 1: And she knew him. I think Wikipedia said that they
Speaker 1: met in junior high and then we're friends for a
Speaker 1: long time. That's different from how the move or how
Speaker 1: the mini series portrays it, but um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was interesting to me because I was like, what's
Speaker 1: her deal? That he never targeted her and she seemed
Speaker 1: to have like no clue what was going on. Everyone
Speaker 1: else seemed kind of aware. We gotta help one person
Speaker 1: in the cult with you. I guess he was the
Speaker 1: godfather to her kids. Yeah what what spot We're going
Speaker 1: back to the true crime thing, Molly. Like the fact
Speaker 1: we're all like spoilers, like, you know, for a real
Speaker 1: life event. Yeah, I feel like that's the one kind
Speaker 1: of tricky thing to do is just like, no matter
Speaker 1: how smartly or kind of incisively are able to dramatize
Speaker 1: a real life tragedy or series of tragic events, you
Speaker 1: do like you just by putting a plot on it,
Speaker 1: like suddenly it becomes a thing of like like yeah,
Speaker 1: spoilers or or it like it becomes a commodity for
Speaker 1: your or anything that's like a real life story. I've
Speaker 1: been talking about like the Oscars or last night and
Speaker 1: had a lot of those, a lot of oh you
Speaker 1: guys want my hot take about real life stories. Real
Speaker 1: life stories are the franchise for people who think they
Speaker 1: don't like franchise, totally agree with things cannot get greenlit
Speaker 1: that are like purit fiction and nata um uh part
Speaker 1: of a franchise, like can you just do the Fargo
Speaker 1: where you pretend it's based on real events, although actually
Speaker 1: Fargo is based on a real incident where somebody puts
Speaker 1: somebody in a woodchipper, very loosely based. I found it's
Speaker 1: like the first episode of Forensic Files. It's like some
Speaker 1: famous Midwestern I think murderer were somebody put their wife
Speaker 1: in a woodchipper, so he used that as his cue
Speaker 1: for like the herald. Uh yeah, And it was the
Speaker 1: same thing of like they saw they saw the blood
Speaker 1: in the snow, and that was how people figured it out. Um.
Speaker 1: Also I read that so Donna tell of or saw
Speaker 1: she had kind of she I think she kind of
Speaker 1: stood with the family and saying like this is bullshit,
Speaker 1: like this movie shouldn't be made whatever. But my bro, Johnny,
Speaker 1: I've been doing my my Cruise as Donna Teller around
Speaker 1: my house and she's great. She's so good and also interesting.
Speaker 1: Is that so? Yeah? Donna Tella didn't like the movie.
Speaker 1: But then Penelope Cruz is like friendly with Donna Tella
Speaker 1: and was like, is it okay if I play you?
Speaker 1: And she was like oh sure, and then and maintained
Speaker 1: like no, no, no on this movie. And then I
Speaker 1: guess like when Penelope Cruise was at the Golden Globes
Speaker 1: that year, Donna Tella center a bouquet that said good
Speaker 1: luck because of course it's who doesn't want it very flatter? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do portray her flattering. I think that was a
Speaker 1: very like orchestrated decision there. I also could not at
Speaker 1: the time believe that it was not going to be
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga because she had just done American Story and
Speaker 1: want to Emmy for it on our way to the
Speaker 1: egot any moment now um, and it was just so
Speaker 1: so obvious that she should play Donna Telliver Sacci, and
Speaker 1: then she didn't do it because I think Donna Tella
Speaker 1: would have been like, no, well, there they're buddies. Though,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it was around art pop or something,
Speaker 1: because she has a song got Yeah called Donna Tella.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I do think that her performances Donna
Speaker 1: Tella would have been like a little more art can't
Speaker 1: be than Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, they quiet dignity.
Speaker 1: She got an oscar. It's fine, that's true. I also
Speaker 1: love the Maya Rudolph Donna Tellah. That's all I was
Speaker 1: thinking give out. And I feel like Donna Tella must
Speaker 1: love that too, because it immortalized her further. Well again
Speaker 1: without spoiling anything about the show, but again talking about
Speaker 1: like the themes of the show being kind of like
Speaker 1: class and striving and all this stuff, and they talk
Speaker 1: about the Versace siblings also, maybe I'm just like I
Speaker 1: love the Versace siblings because they're siblings who work together
Speaker 1: in Santo even talk. Yeah, for a while, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that must be Donna Tella is like significant others. Let
Speaker 1: us now praise Ricky Martin. Oh, yeah, he's so amazing.
Speaker 1: I love how like there's genuinely a sweet love story
Speaker 1: between them in the middle of all this It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it's just shoehorned in to be manipulative. For sure.
Speaker 1: It's like a complex, like years spanning relationship between them
Speaker 1: that I feel like. It's really smartly played and so good.
Speaker 1: The reason it works is because it has so much
Speaker 1: sympathy and empathy for all the victims, you know, like,
Speaker 1: you don't come out of it like team Andrew Kunanan.
Speaker 1: You come out of it like this is such a
Speaker 1: fucked up, complicated situation and the police sucked it up
Speaker 1: so bad, much like the O J Show. You know
Speaker 1: You're like the Lee Meiglan episode I have to say
Speaker 1: was particularly difficult for me to watch. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a really tough watch, especially considering how the family felt
Speaker 1: about his death and like the circumstances. It's so intense
Speaker 1: and yet at the same time there's this layer of like, wow,
Speaker 1: older actress Judith Light is getting this roll of a
Speaker 1: lifetime to emote and do all this stuff. Well, she's
Speaker 1: also she was so good and transparent and it's I mean,
Speaker 1: she's just it's interesting to see how often how like
Speaker 1: her career has kind of taken off in like this
Speaker 1: different direction. Now super strong but super like tiny, frail
Speaker 1: she's like boss No, but she I mean it's I
Speaker 1: would say she was a tough lady, but then you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Danza had to do all the domestic labor. What
Speaker 1: she says to be so brittle now I know. I
Speaker 1: mean it's the boss um. One other thing that I
Speaker 1: really appreciate the show that kind of runs counter to
Speaker 1: how upsetting and like troubling a lot of it is.
Speaker 1: And some what night we're inducing is like, oh those
Speaker 1: interiors nineties Miami buttery leather. Yeah, it's very it's very
Speaker 1: brettystone Elsie totally well, the room that they're the lobby.
Speaker 1: I I just said this out loud, like while I
Speaker 1: was watching it, but the lobby of the like shitty
Speaker 1: motel that he stays in on the beach. Suddenly I
Speaker 1: was just because it's just like this perfectly pink room
Speaker 1: with like tons of light flooding in, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I want to be in that room right now.
Speaker 1: That's also why I wanted you guys to watch, because
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such a night call bait
Speaker 1: because it's like it's such a lazy. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: most glass bricks show. Yeah, I really like this show
Speaker 1: it's very depressing. Also great music. I was, Oh, Gloria
Speaker 1: used to the best effect I've ever seen. It was
Speaker 1: it Lisa Brannigan or whatever. I know this because my
Speaker 1: dad for a long time would be like that song Gloria,
Speaker 1: and we would think he met the Van Morrison Gloria,
Speaker 1: and then he would try and sing it Gloria, right,
Speaker 1: But it's like he wouldn't really remember the tunes like
Speaker 1: Gloria Gloria. I was like, right, the Van Morrison, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Gloria Gloria. But that's one of my favorite scenes from
Speaker 1: you know, singing in the car to Gloria. What a
Speaker 1: care free murder spree moment um? What what song would
Speaker 1: you guys set your murder scene too in a show?
Speaker 1: Such a good question. I have my answer. Okay, go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: Oh Sherry. I've just really been enjoying o' sherry recently
Speaker 1: because you've been listening to Ca ser Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: has a little intro, that weird keyboard intro where goes
Speaker 1: like dune done, Dune, Dune, Dune, Dune, Dune done, Dune
Speaker 1: done like a carnival ride is breaking. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Crimson and Clover can't go wrong. You gotta pick something
Speaker 1: that's like ironically upbeat. But the funniest thing in the
Speaker 1: movie The Snowman that I will talk about all day
Speaker 1: every day. Have you guys seen The Snowman? I talked
Speaker 1: about on Molly's Mr. Mr Police Officer. Mr. Police Officer,
Speaker 1: I gave you all the clues. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: They had I think a whole Johnny Greenwood score that
Speaker 1: they scrapped and instead just put in some music at
Speaker 1: the end. And one of the things they did is
Speaker 1: set all the murder one of the murders to the
Speaker 1: popcorn dance. No, so somebody is getting murdered with an accent.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole bad for the popcorn song. I
Speaker 1: have to recommend everything about everybody should watch The Snowman.
Speaker 1: It is the funniest, unintentionally funniest movie. Well, we should
Speaker 1: watch The Snowman maybe next week. So we have a
Speaker 1: night email and subject of two things we like a
Speaker 1: lot all the time. Anyway, this comes to us from Jordan's.
Speaker 1: Jordan writes, hello, nightcall. My college was built in eighteen
Speaker 1: o eight, but there has been a Catholic church here
Speaker 1: since since the sixteen hundreds. Anyway, we have this massive
Speaker 1: graveyard that's that's just chilling in the woods that's not
Speaker 1: on any campus maps and they just don't tell anyone
Speaker 1: about it. But there are also a lot of Confederate
Speaker 1: soldiers and Union soldiers buried in it. Since we were
Speaker 1: close to the Gettysburg Battlefield. Freshman year, me and my
Speaker 1: friends used to drink cheap liquor late at night in
Speaker 1: the graveyard, which really wasn't fun since it was bloody,
Speaker 1: terrifying drinking in the pitch black forest. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: there were all these wild cats that would just pop
Speaker 1: out randomly and hiss, causing much screaming and running in terror,
Speaker 1: just normal college stuff. The cats every once in a
Speaker 1: while venture around the normal part of campus, jumping out
Speaker 1: at unsuspecting victims from the bushes late at night, most
Speaker 1: likely the seminarians and the priest lea food and water
Speaker 1: out for them. Due to this, I am graduating with
Speaker 1: a very real fear of cats and a useless degree.
Speaker 1: L O. L au revoir Jordan's Uh ghost cats, guys,
Speaker 1: So Molly recently saw a magical cat. I do see
Speaker 1: a magical cat. That's right. We got this email no
Speaker 1: the day it's no. Yeah, yeah, uh, we're counting it
Speaker 1: as snow. It was technically I'm going to call it
Speaker 1: sleep sleep and it only has it was a wet snow.
Speaker 1: It was a wet snow, but it was frozen. We're
Speaker 1: counting it. But yeah. I went into this store. There
Speaker 1: was a kimono store in Pasadena called Kimono No Koba
Speaker 1: that is cool. And I was in there and the
Speaker 1: woman was who owns up was talking about how her
Speaker 1: cat was feeling sick so she had brought him in
Speaker 1: to come hang out, and how it was a lucky
Speaker 1: calico cat that looks like the lucky cat, the like
Speaker 1: cat that waves its hand. She's like, it's because there's
Speaker 1: three different colors. That's the calico um And so I
Speaker 1: said high to the cat. It was so cute. It
Speaker 1: was really cute and awesome and I'm pro shop cats
Speaker 1: in general. Yeah. And then I walked outside and got
Speaker 1: in my car and it started like pouring rain that
Speaker 1: then became snow. Uh for about two minutes. And you
Speaker 1: think the cat did this? Yeah, for sure, the cat
Speaker 1: did it. I'm pretty sure that sounds right. It was
Speaker 1: a lucky cat. I also bought many tapestries because I
Speaker 1: was saying, what I have to have to help feed
Speaker 1: this cat? You bought many taps. I just bought a
Speaker 1: tapestry your coat of many colors. I bought a tapestry
Speaker 1: of cats and hot tubs. Oh my god, it's great. Um, Emily,
Speaker 1: do you believe in pets having magical abilities or being
Speaker 1: kind of portentous? My experience with like ghost cats sort
Speaker 1: of is more on the realm of orbs and photos.
Speaker 1: Like I've known some cats that just like don't turn
Speaker 1: up in photos very well, Like they turn up, but
Speaker 1: it's like like they never exposed correctly or something. Um. Like,
Speaker 1: there's this cat in a house that I was house
Speaker 1: sitting at once, and I like it was back. I
Speaker 1: was like still using a film camera and I was
Speaker 1: like trying to take a picture of it, and it
Speaker 1: just like never the picture would come out fine, but
Speaker 1: it would just be like an outline of the cat
Speaker 1: where the cat was. But that's that's all I have
Speaker 1: really for ghost cats. I'm I'm I'm allergic to cats. Um.
Speaker 1: This doesn't really affect my opinion one way or the
Speaker 1: other on what about ghost dogs or the movie Ghost
Speaker 1: or the movie Ghost. Um, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I've ever encountered anything that I would I
Speaker 1: would think of as being a ghost. Dog or cats
Speaker 1: seem much more likely to be able to come. What
Speaker 1: about a ghost coyote? Um, I mean like a coyote
Speaker 1: is plenty. Regular coyote is fine. I asked on the
Speaker 1: night Call facebook page if people had experiences with their
Speaker 1: pets like seeing ghosts or you know, being other worldly
Speaker 1: in some way, and many people said that yes, which
Speaker 1: is unsurprising because obviously I know this to be true.
Speaker 1: I have like way too many animals, so I feel
Speaker 1: like I know that they are in touch with spirits,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Um. But someone had a picture of their
Speaker 1: cat just staring at a place on the or which
Speaker 1: has if you google like do cats see ghosts? People
Speaker 1: are like yeah, because when they stare at that spot
Speaker 1: on the floor, what do you think they're looking at?
Speaker 1: It's a ghost. Um. Someone else said that they're like
Speaker 1: their parents cats I think had passed away, but they
Speaker 1: still smell the litter boxes in like waves. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like the cats ghost visiting. Um. But I I
Speaker 1: super believe in ghost cats. I was like, that's the
Speaker 1: rudest ghosts just like sprits as it's ghost, get to
Speaker 1: like keep the like a nice memory of the cat.
Speaker 1: It's very territorial ghost. Yeah. Um, we used to have
Speaker 1: a cat who came by our house like he was
Speaker 1: someone's outdoor cat. And his name was Mr Kitty and
Speaker 1: he was like a very very smart, wonderful cat and
Speaker 1: he always, like you know, he seemed to like come
Speaker 1: by whenever we were outside, but when we look out
Speaker 1: the window trying to spot him, we can never find him. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he passed away, But then we kept seeing a
Speaker 1: cat who looked exactly like him with a exact same
Speaker 1: collar in our yard. Very weird reincarnated Mr Kitty. Oh
Speaker 1: you know my parents first my first cat was my
Speaker 1: parents took it in because it looked exactly like our
Speaker 1: old cat who had passed away. We had a cat
Speaker 1: whose name was Bluey. And then this cat just started
Speaker 1: like appearing all the time that looked just like it
Speaker 1: was a black and white cat, and we took it
Speaker 1: in and named Schmooe. I really liked the cat. She
Speaker 1: was great, and she was a reincarnated version of the
Speaker 1: previous cat. That's the thing. But that thing, it was
Speaker 1: like she just appeared and was hanging suddenly appeared after
Speaker 1: that cat was no longer around. Um, it felt a
Speaker 1: little bit faded. I guess the reincarnation thing always seems
Speaker 1: like the right tack to take when interpreting the meaning
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know, would times like wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be nice? Like Barbara sand We've already had an entire podcast.
Speaker 1: I've just said, like, if I had the money, I
Speaker 1: would just go out my dog tomorrow, Like I would
Speaker 1: just do it. I wouldn't think about it. Correct, I've
Speaker 1: already signed the papers. Yeah, it's been done. But I
Speaker 1: would not clone my cats, even though I like them
Speaker 1: a lot. In fact, one of them I've had for
Speaker 1: like almost seventeen years. It's the longest relationship I've ever had. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I love him, but I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: he would want to be reincarnated, whereas I think my
Speaker 1: dog would. It feels like cats will just like find
Speaker 1: their way back through the spirit world anyway, whereas like
Speaker 1: dogs might need a little bit of help. Dogs, I
Speaker 1: think are more often young souls and cats are old.
Speaker 1: I'm a dog person, just putting it out there that
Speaker 1: I did I prefer dogs. I could just you can.
Speaker 1: You can go out and about with your dog, but
Speaker 1: with your cat. It's like, neither of my cats would
Speaker 1: like go on a leash. I'd feel like I was
Speaker 1: putting on a big show about them when I see
Speaker 1: a very different kind of relationship. It's like a friend
Speaker 1: you only see one on one instead of like one
Speaker 1: that you go out parties. I'm saying, is what you
Speaker 1: want to be on a leash? Look, this is you're
Speaker 1: tying it back to American crime story when a donna
Speaker 1: Tella's dress, where it was like is she on a Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm not king shaming. I said, if you have thought
Speaker 1: said against your willified against your will, you don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a dog asked to be put on a leash?
Speaker 1: Why your dog is? It? Is dogs orselves. They look
Speaker 1: up at you while that they're putting the leash on.
Speaker 1: Some of them get their leash and bring it to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So don't king shame, is what I'm saying. Um, if
Speaker 1: you have a story about a spooky pet that you
Speaker 1: would like to share, please give us a call at
Speaker 1: to four oh four six night or an email at
Speaker 1: Nightcall Podcast at gmail dot com. You can also just
Speaker 1: call or write about whatever, speaking of creatures that may
Speaker 1: no longer exist but still are with us in a
Speaker 1: spiritual way. Good one. Thanks. I wanted to in the
Speaker 1: Creature Corner a new segment that is based on many
Speaker 1: other segments about new animals. Uh the night calls new
Speaker 1: patron animal, saying, I believe the tiny dino your own
Speaker 1: night mouse has been found above the Arctic Circle. Finally
Speaker 1: found it. There's a drawing that shows a bunch of dinosaurs,
Speaker 1: and then somewhere in this pile of dinosaurs is a
Speaker 1: tiny little mouse. It's like whereas well, though it's so
Speaker 1: hard to say, can you even find it on there?
Speaker 1: I just know this is the thing on the Life
Speaker 1: Science article. Okay, so there's like an artist rendition of
Speaker 1: the age of dinosaurs and dinosaurs running about and stuff,
Speaker 1: And at the bottom of the article there's an editor's
Speaker 1: note that says this article was updated to indicate the
Speaker 1: fact that the night mouse, which was supposed to be
Speaker 1: scampering at its master dinosaurs feed in the illustration, is
Speaker 1: in fact not there. I was gonna say, it looks
Speaker 1: just like here's some compatriots, some mouse of the imagination
Speaker 1: again a perfect mascot for us. Was supposed to like
Speaker 1: just like kind of be like it was almost like
Speaker 1: a page a parasite of dinosaurs, like it would just
Speaker 1: like hang out around on their feet or something. Tiny
Speaker 1: marsupial that lived in the twilight of the dinosaurs as
Speaker 1: well as in literal twilight for much of the year.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They're saying it's not a mouse, it's mouse sized,
Speaker 1: but it's a marsupial and you just have to imagine
Speaker 1: what it likes. It lived sixty nine million years ago
Speaker 1: on the northernmost land mass of its day. It's high
Speaker 1: latitude would have put it in total darkness for four
Speaker 1: months out of every year, which is why it's the
Speaker 1: night mouse. So it's kind of like an early mole
Speaker 1: or vole, but this is a marsuits marsupial. So it's
Speaker 1: like a little teeny tiny kangaroo. Yes, all right, now
Speaker 1: we're talking. It was It was found amidst dug Build
Speaker 1: dinosaurs in Alaska. Oh, I found the artists conception. I'm
Speaker 1: going to show tests it's that a foot. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's nothing like what I wanted it. I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. The first like bad review of it. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, the way it's drawn, it looks like
Speaker 1: it's heads on my cupside down, and it has like
Speaker 1: its mouth is just goes way too far up to
Speaker 1: its ear. I think it's a bit. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it would be better if what I think is a fern.
Speaker 1: It would be better if that were an antler. I
Speaker 1: don't see anything. Okay again, then it would be a
Speaker 1: jackalope and I'd be like a hundred playing God. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not really into that night mouse. Um. I like
Speaker 1: how it looks like a tiny, weird antelope with teeth.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a head and say that. Instead of that,
Speaker 1: I want the bumble bee bat, which is the world's
Speaker 1: smallest mammal. I'm gonna nominate that. Somebody sent us something
Speaker 1: on the Instagram about a giant hornet. Also no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. The bumble bee bat, which should be called
Speaker 1: the bumble bat but isn't, is like super adorable. It
Speaker 1: can fit. It's like the size of one section of
Speaker 1: your index finger, and it's super duper cute. And it's
Speaker 1: like does that include wingspan or just its body? No,
Speaker 1: I'm watching I'm looking at a picture of it hanging
Speaker 1: out on someone's finger. It's it's only two point seven centimeters.
Speaker 1: It has like the world two little teeny tiniest little feet.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. And I love bats and they also
Speaker 1: are nocturnal. So I'm gonna go ahead and say, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not into that night mouse. Are we gonna take
Speaker 1: on the Twitter and we're going to have will be
Speaker 1: bat square off against the night mouse? Fair? The bumble
Speaker 1: be bat shoulda in having a picture of the night mouse. Molly, Well,
Speaker 1: the night mouse is extinct, Tess is out here. Are
Speaker 1: you even defending the night mouse? Because I'm not into
Speaker 1: like luxism against ancient polar fauna. Um. By the way,
Speaker 1: the bees are back in town. There's a bunch of
Speaker 1: bees seemingly making a hive right outside my house because
Speaker 1: I set it up on the word got out. They
Speaker 1: listen to a nightcall and they're like the bees. There's
Speaker 1: this lady who's a fan of bees. We got to
Speaker 1: go all live at her house. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: about that? I feel great about it, Molly, You're gonna
Speaker 1: loving it. Are you going to start a farming them?
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it. I might. I don't think
Speaker 1: my neighbors would love it. But whatever they should, I mean,
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be good for them for their plants and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Some people have an irrational fear of bees. I've heard. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. If my gral if they've seen Migra.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never seen my girl. You've never seen no,
Speaker 1: but I know. But what happens? Um? We have one
Speaker 1: other call, and it's a call if I'm not mistaken
Speaker 1: about flash animation. Okay, I just want to say that
Speaker 1: Strong Bad and Homestar Runner are probably registered trademarks of
Speaker 1: Mike and Matt Chapman. Um, but I'm not making any
Speaker 1: money off of this. In either you or so? Okay,
Speaker 1: here you go either like, oh, making a night calling.
Speaker 1: You're so excited that I might call dear night call?
Speaker 1: Definitely really strong good and not a guy named that
Speaker 1: to reform the Facebook group a freaking voice. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was just calling because I wanted to know what's
Speaker 1: your favorite? Uh, mid two thousands of cards, please answer correctly.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. The cheek just came home and he uh,
Speaker 1: he's got the soundtrack to The Big Chill on vinyl.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Oh my god, thank you. You know what,
Speaker 1: we had not listened to that first. We get a
Speaker 1: transcript of the call, so we're usually actually hearing the
Speaker 1: audio for the first time, which was definitely the case there. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Uh, Andrew slash strong bad for
Speaker 1: the call. Um. This is because of like I feel
Speaker 1: like it was a couple of weeks ago. We were
Speaker 1: just like had an outro that never ended and then
Speaker 1: just started like quoting ting Girl squad Um. We were
Speaker 1: talking then. I think after we finished that recording, just
Speaker 1: about like the weird era. That definitely feels like it
Speaker 1: was a couple of iterations of Internet ago where watching
Speaker 1: flash animations was like a featured activity on the Internet,
Speaker 1: a way to kill time at your job perhaps, or
Speaker 1: something you would send to somebody on my Space. Um,
Speaker 1: yeah I was. I was definitely a homestar runner watcher
Speaker 1: for a while and not ashamed to admit it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we all I think we all were. This is yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like we call it like the old weird Internet.
Speaker 1: It's like before before whatever this hell world is. Did you,
Speaker 1: guys Dove that article today about the people who have
Speaker 1: to Facebook videos? Emily you posted it right? It was
Speaker 1: a Verge article was, well, yeah, Casey Newton did it
Speaker 1: at the Vergi and it was it's about, I mean,
Speaker 1: something that Adrian Chen reported a few years ago. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the New Yorker, but this was kind
Speaker 1: of a little more in depth about the working conditions
Speaker 1: that one that that was. It's in the United States,
Speaker 1: because I think the article that Adrian Chren did was
Speaker 1: I think in China one of these um content hell
Speaker 1: whole farms uh in in other countries, but there's one
Speaker 1: in the United States. So there's an article about this.
Speaker 1: It's in Arizona, and they like anyone to know that
Speaker 1: it was connected to Facebook. But it's like some company
Speaker 1: called something And then Cogni isn't sitting cubicles all day
Speaker 1: and look at like beheading videos. Oh yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: the Adrian Chen article about the yikes. Anyway, this is
Speaker 1: not that. Anyway, I wanted to say that my personal favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just when the Internet seemed like a fun, weird thing
Speaker 1: to explore and not like a horrible thing that you're
Speaker 1: just trapped in forever. Um. I loved You're the man
Speaker 1: now dog. Oh I loved it. Yes, that was my
Speaker 1: time waster. That's to me, it's just the perfect art form.
Speaker 1: It is. On the Facebook group, people were talking about
Speaker 1: both salad Fingers and Fight kikoman Um. I don't know
Speaker 1: much about salad fingers, but my boyfriend always mentioned salad
Speaker 1: fingers gave me. I couldn't. I did not enjoy the
Speaker 1: feeling it gave. Yeah, he described it. I think then
Speaker 1: some of that stuff turned into like off putting anti comedy,
Speaker 1: and that was asked me, maybe, yeah, it was the
Speaker 1: kiko was fight keikoman like the superhero the Keiko mon
Speaker 1: Superman guy. Yes, it is Koman. I will never forget
Speaker 1: that song. It's so amazing. That was great. There was
Speaker 1: there were several like add like brand flash animations for
Speaker 1: various Japanese companies. That was That was one, and then
Speaker 1: uh like the company that has like um like really
Speaker 1: Kuma and like san X. They had one that was
Speaker 1: Beer chron that had like a full um full length
Speaker 1: like animation about it. That was I swear to I
Speaker 1: hope it's still online somewhere. It was the funniest, cutest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I feel like I watched it
Speaker 1: once a week in college, so I feel like there
Speaker 1: was one called like Strindberg and Helium that was like
Speaker 1: about like August Strindberg and like a little pink balloon
Speaker 1: that followed him around that my friends were into. I
Speaker 1: was lessened to that one, but I remember that being
Speaker 1: like passed around a lot. Yeah, did you guys ever
Speaker 1: do like horror flash animation? I I could never do
Speaker 1: for some reason. It was too scary for me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I find that too scary. It's like, what's an example,
Speaker 1: like all those like scared Maybe they're just YouTube videos,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about. I feel like
Speaker 1: an image and then something scary happens when you're not
Speaker 1: working it. Yeah, something jumps out and screams at you.
Speaker 1: That those are YouTube, those are mostly YouTube, but even
Speaker 1: like I feel like there was something and I might
Speaker 1: be making this up, but watching salad Fingers, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think that there was another thing around this same
Speaker 1: time that was just creepy. Like salad Fingers is just
Speaker 1: visually kind of like unsettling and it just doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense, which gives you, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: sid saw the salad fingers. Salad Fingers is it was
Speaker 1: created by David firth Um, and there's like always kind
Speaker 1: of like Brian eno ish music or like a f
Speaker 1: X twin. I think he used the one in the
Speaker 1: background and it's like like homestar runner. I think it
Speaker 1: started from like an in joke that he had with
Speaker 1: his friends where it was like, you know, just a
Speaker 1: silly like salad fingers, and then he created this kind
Speaker 1: of like gone yeah, like a like a who likes
Speaker 1: rusty I like to feel rusty spoons. They feel orgasmic,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's not funny. It it's sort of
Speaker 1: fun it's when it's it's sort of funny. It's like
Speaker 1: in that Mighty Bush like acid trip. Yeah, like unsettling,
Speaker 1: just unsettling. Yeah, but I think there was another, but
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. And definitely let us
Speaker 1: know if you also share this memory. If I'm making
Speaker 1: it up of their being a more creepy, more surreal
Speaker 1: flash from around that same time, that would have freaked
Speaker 1: you out. I want to say so many of the
Speaker 1: creepy ones, but yeah, go ahead, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 1: I Also I wanted to say, my dad confirmed stairs
Speaker 1: on planes. Yeah. See, there's so many confirmations of the
Speaker 1: stairs on plane said they're just in first class. There
Speaker 1: was like a lounge route first class only could go
Speaker 1: to you before it was upstairs. I was like, where
Speaker 1: the plane on top of the plane. I'm just picturing
Speaker 1: these like giant sick planes, like picture the flintstones, like
Speaker 1: when people like ride on a plane and they're on
Speaker 1: top of it. And it seems like I didn't make
Speaker 1: that up just now. I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1: One other thing that I feel like is for me
Speaker 1: at least, the progenitor of like the era of watching
Speaker 1: funny cartoons on the Internet was the Fenclor films G I.
Speaker 1: Joe shorts, which I feel like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: poured many hours into and probably all of them are
Speaker 1: just permanently embedded in my brain, like the entire text
Speaker 1: of them. Uh those were the yeah and the like.
Speaker 1: It's all these things too. Still where I was saying, like,
Speaker 1: I still have like bits of of like a quote
Speaker 1: that's not even like a full quote, it's just a
Speaker 1: sound or a word said in a certain way that
Speaker 1: like will like sometimes just be drawn out of me
Speaker 1: out of context. Test and I were both really Intociphil
Speaker 1: and Ali, which yeah, we've talked about that before in
Speaker 1: the pod too, but every time we talk about old
Speaker 1: school Internet. I'm like that like things that existed right
Speaker 1: before YouTube, that this was made for YouTube. There was
Speaker 1: like a brief like a brief era of things that
Speaker 1: were like both on MTV and or like felt like
Speaker 1: they were from that world, like Wonder Shows and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, cashing in on that digital video crazy. Um, guys,
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up, I thought of my murder song,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Bulbs by Van
Speaker 1: Morrison just because there's a part in that song where
Speaker 1: he goes like ha ha ha ha, like a weird
Speaker 1: sinister laugh. But it's a very uppy song. And so
Speaker 1: I've been stewing on it the whole time and now
Speaker 1: and now I'm officially going to peg that for my
Speaker 1: murder songs. What's a great answer? Okay, thanks guys, good job, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. And changing my answer to be the theme
Speaker 1: song for Succession, which I think I mentioned last week
Speaker 1: and I was still stuck in my head a week later,
Speaker 1: So that's going to be how I die. We can
Speaker 1: do a succession you don't, you don't have to, don't
Speaker 1: want to. It's great, but you'll have the song stuck
Speaker 1: in your head. Forever just be warned. Um well, thanks
Speaker 1: everybody for listening to this week's Nightcall. As always, you
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