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Speaker 1: Out podcast. I literally just walked into my office after watching.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hyperbole overreact, but as entertaining, I

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Speaker 1: I know some people. Not every one of my listeners

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Speaker 1: are millennials. I'm a millennial, but I'm an old school millennial.

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Speaker 1: I do like defense. Uh, you know, I texted some

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Speaker 1: one with the crowd that give l A some props. Now,

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Speaker 1: but there is no whether they I think they gave

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Speaker 1: away the tickets. But that was awesome. Just an absolutely

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Speaker 1: And also I'm gonna touch on the Bears and the

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Speaker 1: that's you're talking about. Mahomes is as talented a young

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Speaker 1: they they were just having fun. At one point, Booger

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Speaker 1: But as we're going into the fourth quarter, Booker drops up.

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Speaker 1: Now and he's really gonna let Patrick Mahomes loose. I

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Speaker 1: Both these cats have been let loose. Mahomes thirty three

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Speaker 1: or forty six, almost five hundred yards, six touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: three picks. Two of them are a little flukey, got

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Speaker 1: and it felt that way. But but to me, my,

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Speaker 1: And I was lucky enough for a couple of years

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Speaker 1: the points, there were I think three defensive touchdowns. You know,

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Speaker 1: having Monday night football games like it. Just that was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Jalen is not even right about most of his evaluations.

424
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Speaker 1: So I can see him driving the organization a little nuts.

425
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: And just know, like if I see your true colors

426
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: when you're not making that much money. Now, he was

427
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: a top five pick. He makes good coin. But if

428
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: you make five six million dollars and then I start

429
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: a pain in nineteen, you know, you think I had

430
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: the balls to say whatever I wanted before, I'm untouchable.

431
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: Now it has to cross their mind. It's not that crazy. Now.

432
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Jags would want that to

433
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: get out. Maybe they would. Maybe they're like, you know what, Jalen,

434
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: we don't mind you thinking this now. I know they

435
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: released a statement saying, you know, we're not considering trading

436
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: him or whatever. I that's what they had to do.

437
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they wanted to motivate, and guess what, it worked.

438
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: He had two picks. He played good. You know, he

439
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: is good. He's an elite player. If they traded him,

440
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: it won't be because of talent. It's because he's a

441
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: pain in their ass. You know. It's it's not under

442
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: players like Jalen Ramsey have been traded before. You know,

443
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: he's not. He never shuts up Like that's the crazy part,

444
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: going back to the clear MC trade. He's perfect. He

445
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: doesn't say a peep, never gets in trouble, no issues.

446
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Now you're one counter on Jalen be like, Okay, he

447
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: says a lot, who cares, He's not like he's ever

448
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: been in trouble. Again, it's it's difficult. I see both

449
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: sides of it. The other one condoles a Rice and

450
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where Chefter got this. She shot it down,

451
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: the brown shot it down. I honestly haven't been able

452
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: to figure this one out because there were some rumors

453
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: right on the Internet that she aspires to be the

454
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: commissioner of the NFL, which she might and maybe she's

455
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: openly talked about it. Here here's the problem, Like Roger

456
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: Goodell just signed an extension. Well, you don't just walk

457
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: away from jobs that pay a thirty million dollars. But

458
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Roger's doing this job for a while. He ain't going anywhere.

459
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: It's not Condie is getting any younger. She could not

460
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: be the head coach. I think it was universal. Anyone

461
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: that knows what they're talking about or has any common sense.

462
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: When they saw this was like, this is the dumbest

463
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: shit I've ever read, because it was It's not one

464
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: of those jobs like you can just learn on the fly. No,

465
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: it's impossible. Part of being the head coach is like

466
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: you have to be a good leader, but you also

467
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: have to know about scheme. You have to be able

468
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: to talk football and not just casually like I know

469
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: a lot about football. I couldn't begin to be a coach,

470
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: couldn't begin to be a head coach in the NFL.

471
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: It was not plausible. It was it was as dumb

472
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: as we all thought. When we read the headline. The

473
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Browns immediately had to shoot it down. Why because one

474
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: of their problem is going to be this offseason is

475
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: getting legitimate people to interview Because, as I've said before,

476
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: two things, you're the Browns. People think you're kind of

477
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: a clown show, which you have been consistently for the

478
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: last however many years, and two is like how what

479
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: what kind of dealings do I have to do with

480
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslem? Because I also think when you do retrace

481
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: this story, it's and I know reporters and journalists get

482
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: mad at this but I'm sorry. I I source guests,

483
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: I have judgments on everything else I talked about, So

484
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: I I take guesses and liberties and I have. I'm

485
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: not trying to discredit or anything on Adam Schefter. I

486
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: don't know where he got this, but if I had

487
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: to guess someone in the Haslm crew, why because someone

488
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: at the Haslem's hardcore Republicans no Condi Rice from politics, Like,

489
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think that they had this idea.

490
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslum has shown on his resume to consistently be

491
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: an idiot. Hired Hugh Jackson, you know, hired Paul D.

492
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Podesta wanted the University of Tennessee to hire Greg Shianu

493
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Like he does dumb stuff consistently. Let a bum tell

494
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: him to draft Johnny Menzel, Like, I'm sorry, I don't

495
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: give Jimmy Haslm to benefit of the doubt, third generation

496
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: rich kid even though he's old. I mean, he comes

497
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: from old money. Uh So, did would it be? Did

498
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslum or de Haslem his wife have conversations that

499
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: maybe we should interview Condoleeza Rice. I could see that

500
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: would John Dorsey in a million years ever? Think that. No,

501
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: would any respectable candidate willing to interview respect that idea. No,

502
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: So the Browns had to shoot it down. Maybe Condi

503
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: had never even heard of this, That's why she shot

504
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: it down. But it's just an incredible story. And then

505
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: when you look around to the action actually on the

506
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: football field. I took some shots to the Cowboys like

507
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: a month ago, and I've had to apologize since I

508
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: said I hated watching them. They were very boring. They've

509
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: actually grown on me a lot. Their defense is fantastic

510
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: to watch. Their defensive line is unreal. I mean that

511
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: they can really rush the pastor the two linebackers make

512
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: plays left and right. Zeke's coming on. Doc is playing well.

513
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: They are hot. They are five and five, but a

514
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: five and five team that now looks They're playing the

515
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: Redskins this Turkey Day and Alex Smith has a snapped ankle,

516
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: so they should win that and be six and five,

517
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: and then they have Sunday Night Football in ten days

518
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: against the Saints. Somehow they were able to win that

519
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: and be seven and five. I mean, they're going to

520
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They feel like a playoff team right now.

521
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, that they are in great

522
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: shape to win this thing. Lamar Jackson pretty clear. One

523
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: thing on Lamar Jackson he can't throw. He ran the

524
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: ball twenty seven times. That isn't sane, but even more

525
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: insane than twenty seven carries for your quarterback is the

526
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: way that he took hits. He doesn't slide, he doesn't

527
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: go out of bounds. He dived shoulder first. He was

528
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: taking so many hits from a violent defense. The Bengals,

529
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: they do hit you hard. He took some shots that

530
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: I was holding my breath and I'm not like I'm

531
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: on the side where I don't think he's gonna be

532
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: a good NFL quarterback. But I'm not selfish enough as like, oh,

533
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I want everyone to say I was right on Twitter.

534
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't care if Lamar Jackson becomes a great player.

535
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Good for him. Uh, I'm pretty sure he won't be

536
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: quite because he can't throw. But I know one thing

537
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: he cannot sustain. Like, he's not gonna be in the

538
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: NFL long. Why he's gonna get broken in half? You

539
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: cannot run that many times and not avoid hits. It

540
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: was crazy. It was like he was a running back.

541
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Now he basically is a glorified running back, but he's

542
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: gonna get killed. I felt bad watching him play because

543
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna get injured. Holding my breath

544
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: just thinking about it. The Vikings offensive line, their defense

545
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: is big time. Like you watch them against the Bears,

546
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: They're every bit of their equal. You watch Kirk Cousins.

547
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I know some people are down on him. I know

548
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Colin doesn't love him, but he's He's not the problem.

549
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Is he great? Is he worth the money? Probably not?

550
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: But their main issue is not the wide receivers, is

551
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: not their running back, and surely not their defense. It's

552
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: their offensive line. It's atrocious. They can't block a soul.

553
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: And when you put them against a good defense, a

554
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: good defensive line like the Bears have, they eat him

555
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: for lunch. They destroyed him. Look like Alabama playing I

556
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: don't know the Citadel, you know, the Alabama playing a

557
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: cupcake game. Alabama playing almost in Kentucky. But they're actually

558
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: pretty good this year. I don't know if the teams

559
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: they killed the Arkansas of the world like they have

560
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: no chance to block them. Khalil Mack and a Chem

561
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: Hicks look like players that would be on Alabama playing

562
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: a nonpower playing Fresno State like this isn't even fair

563
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: and there if they missed the playoffs, it will be

564
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: because their offensive line sucked. It's terrible. It's getting guys,

565
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna get cousins killed. Andrew Luck is a star.

566
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: He's not a good player. He's not a really good player.

567
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: He is a star, a dominant quarterback. We knew that

568
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: three or four years ago. There were legitimate questions once

569
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: he went under the knife and he disappeared for a

570
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: year and a half. Well he's back. He's seven straight

571
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: games with three touchdowns. They're five and five and on

572
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: a four game winning streak. They just beat the living

573
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: crap out of the Tennessee Titans, a division rival. They

574
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: are playing excellent. Their offense t wise bawling, Andrew's bawling,

575
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron's balling. Their offensive line is bawling. I don't

576
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: think he's been sacked in like three straight games. I

577
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't love Quentin Nelson at pick six, but he's been awesome.

578
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: Their offensive line has been awesome. Frank Reich's been awesome.

579
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: They are a fun team to watch, and if you

580
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: play daily fantasy, he Andrew Luck. You're crazy If you

581
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: don't pick him every game because he's gonna give you

582
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: three yards and three touchdowns. It's automatic. I mean literally

583
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: right now, it's automatic. He does it for seven stree games.

584
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. So anyone that you know that is

585
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck Hayter, call them an idiot because that's what

586
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: they are. A moron. Andrew Luck is a bawler. Before

587
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: we get into the Middlecoff mail bag, and you can

588
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: slide them into my d M s at at John Middlecoff.

589
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: I just got a touch on one college game, the biggest,

590
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: one of the biggest college games of the year, Ohio

591
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: State Michigan games in Ohio State, and it's pretty fascinating.

592
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I said a couple of weeks ago, the moment Michigan

593
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: beat Wisconsin that the path was kind of paved. They

594
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: took Cara, Penn State took Kara, Rutgers took care of Indiana.

595
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: They they've kind of handled their business. Ohio State luckily

596
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: has kept winning. They just played Maryland and uh, the

597
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: game going to overtime. No, they tried to win it

598
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: and they were holding on for their ass and they're

599
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: not playing well and there is tangible pressure on Jim

600
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Harbot to win this game or Urban Meyer. I call

601
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: him fraud Meyer. I can't take him seriously. He's just

602
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: such a hypocrite. The guys he's recruited, I mean, he's

603
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: had a murderer, domestic violence. Listen. He's a fantastic and

604
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: elite coach, but it looks like he looked like hell

605
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: every time the camera went to him on the sideline.

606
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Their team is not playing well at all. Defensively, they

607
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: look like a shell of themselves. Uh, to me, it

608
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: push all the I mean right now, Harbaugh and the

609
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines are like a four point favorite depending on

610
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: where you look. There is tangible pressure on Jim Harbaugh

611
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: to win this game. Uh. There have been constant rumors

612
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: about Urban quitting or retiring. It sure kind of feels

613
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: that way. His team. I don't know if they've quit

614
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: on them, but they're surely not play up to snuff.

615
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: They have way more talent than their showing hard bus teams.

616
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely rolling. He has a quarterback plan well for the

617
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: first time ever, an elite defense like do not get

618
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: it twisted. If Jim loses this game, and I don't care,

619
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: that's Ohio State and I don't care that's a rivalry game.

620
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: It'll be somewhat of a stain on his resume, Like

621
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: this thing is handed for him to win this game.

622
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: His team's rolling Ohio States and shambles. There's all these

623
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: rumors about the coach quitting and retiring. He looks unhealthy.

624
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: On the sideline, Jim is one win away, really too,

625
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: because then he'd go to the Big twelve Championship where

626
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: you played or excuse me, Big ten Championship where you

627
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: play an average Northwestern team. All he's gonna do is

628
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: win this game. Is in the playoffs again. I know

629
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: he's got another game, but I'm assuming he's gonna win

630
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: that game. He ain't losing the Northwestern, not with the

631
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: playoffs on the on the line. He's got to take

632
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: care of business at Ohio State. And I'll be honest,

633
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: and this would be the the red flag against Jim

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Speaker 1: as a great coach. I'm not that confident's gonna win

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Speaker 1: the game on Saturday. I would actually probably say he won't.

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, that's very Jim hardbug get really close and

637
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: then not win. But he's got to come through or

638
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: he would catch a lot of heat, and rightfully so

639
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: especially with Urban that I swear in that Maryland game

640
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: it looked like he was gonna have a heart attack

641
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: mid mid game. And I don't blame his team was terrible.

642
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: Shiano's defense is awful. But god, Jim, I mean they're

643
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Speaker 1: paying you eight nine million. You're in full control of

644
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Speaker 1: the program. You got him rolling. You are two games

645
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: away officially, unofficially one away from the playoff. Like time

646
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Speaker 1: to get it done, hardball. Okay, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back slide up in my d M s

648
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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff and I will answer your questions right

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Speaker 1: here on the three Now podcast. Hey John Jesse from

650
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin here, longtime listener of the podcast. I guess my

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Speaker 1: question is this the way the NFL is moving with

652
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Speaker 1: heavily favored offense of the rules on offense, is the

653
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: game gonna be unrecognizable in about ten years. I love

654
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: offense as much as the next guy, same, but I

655
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: grew up on ed Red, John Taylor's Brian Dawkins big hits.

656
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I can already see how different the game I clicked

657
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: it it's gonna be in ten twelve years? Do you

658
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: think the game? Do you will they even be allowed

659
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: to play defense. I mean practically you can at this point.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic this this question is actually like

661
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: a week old um ten days old. But I do

662
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: think they have a problem on their hands that their

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Speaker 1: first reaction is always throw the flag. Tonight there was

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Speaker 1: a flag at the end of the game that they

665
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: threw like targeting or spearing or whatever. With the helmet.

666
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: The tight end lowered his head and the dB was

667
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: just sitting there waiting to tackle him, and the tight

668
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: ends head hit his head and they threw the flag.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. There was a targeting, unlike the

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00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: first series of the game where the guy didn't even

671
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: hit the offensive player. My least favorite vocabulary word in

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: sports is defenseless player. If you're a wide receiver, you

673
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: are not defenseless. You know, running over the middle or

674
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: at least you used to that you could get hit.

675
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: And now they're they're defenseless because they don't think they

676
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: can get hit. The game is gonna change. AT's becoming

677
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: much more flag football esque. The one area you can

678
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: still dominate is the front. You know, it's the d lines.

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Speaker 1: As you saw to night for Kansas City, Aaron Donald,

680
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: you don't really here in the Dominican sue. But those

681
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: guys you get so tired. You know, even if you

682
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: play every snap, Like if you have one sack of game,

683
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: that's sixteen sacks, you know. I mean it's not like

684
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Speaker 1: a touchdown, you're not gonna throw like five or six.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have an unreal game, you have two sacks.

686
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: So unless you have like three elite pass rushers. That's

687
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Speaker 1: really what makes the Bear so special is they got

688
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: like four guys that can run to the passer. You

689
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: watch the rams that they really only got one. I

690
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: mean the Chiefs have what too, So it's just the

691
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: game's changed. It's definitely becoming a little more collegian at

692
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Speaker 1: the NFL level. Uh, they're very in c y A

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00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: mode in terms of they throw the flags because they

694
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get sued for head injuries. It's really

695
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: that black and white. Like, don't get a twist of

696
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: the league office is not worried about injuries and all

697
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: that crap. Besides injuries on quarterbacks ruining their prime time games.

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00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: That's all they care about. Like they don't want Jimmy

699
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Garoppolo hurt, though Jimmy cases himself. They don't want Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: They don't want Aaron Rodgers getting slammed to the ground,

701
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: which I'm okay with, But I'm not okay with you

702
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Speaker 1: having crazy protection for wide receivers. You know that there

703
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Speaker 1: should be some repercussions you go over the middle. There's

704
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Speaker 1: a dude in the numbers, which twenties or thirties, maybe forties,

705
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Speaker 1: you know, old school, ready to hit you and hits

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00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: you hard. I still like big hits. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people listening probably like big hits. They're just

708
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: fewer and far between. Now it's far or even a word,

709
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: but they're not even you know, fewer hits that they're

710
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: just not allowed because if you launch more than likely,

711
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: even if you connect fundamentally sound with your shoulder pad

712
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: and your head up and everything they teach you in

713
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: peewee football, the first move the referee does, naturally now

714
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: is reached for his flag. He thinks violence equals a flag.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that that makes me mad, makes me sad,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also embraced, Like I make my living off

717
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Speaker 1: talking about football. I don't want it to go away,

718
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: so you just gotta adapt with it. I mean, this

719
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: is just the hand the sport has been dealt. They've

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Speaker 1: adapted faster like Baseball's adaptation is the polar opposite of football,

721
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Like football just adapts at rapid speed. They've had to

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Speaker 1: change the rules, and they have not always for the

723
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Speaker 1: better us as consumers, but it's just a reality. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the game is just gonna be much more pass happy.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like the Big twelve. It's gonna be

726
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Speaker 1: hard to play defense. Okay. Uh A Maria has looked

727
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Speaker 1: really good in Dallas so far and still doesn't know

728
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: the place. Doc makes concerted effort to get on the ball.

729
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: In Oakland, he had been a non factor forever since

730
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Speaker 1: Car broke his ankle. Once the criticisms of Car came

731
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: returning last year, he was too timid in the pocket

732
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Speaker 1: and constantly checking down. Earlier in the year, when question

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Speaker 1: why they can't get a Mari the ball, both Gruden

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00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: and a Mari said he was getting open. On top

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Speaker 1: of that, we've seen Car makes some of really uh

736
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Speaker 1: so many bonehead plays. So my question is this, do

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Speaker 1: you think a Mari and the Raider's offense as a

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Speaker 1: whole disappearing is more to do with Derek than it

739
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: is the system these past two years, and do the

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00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Raiders need to trade him this offseason. I think it's

741
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: a the nation of both. I think the last couple

742
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: of weeks there two tackles. Colton Miller, whether his knees,

743
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: herd or whatever, it sucks. I mean, he's terrible, and

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00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: their right tackle, the young guy Parker, the third rounder,

745
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: is worse. So when you can't block anyone at the edges,

746
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Speaker 1: anyone listening to this a fan of any NFL team

747
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: has known that one year when you had an embarrassing

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00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: either a left tackle or right tackle that just is

749
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: not an NFL player, your whole offensive shot, like, you

750
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: can't function. I remember a couple of years ago, Uh,

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00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis retired from the forty niners and they were

752
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: kind of screwed. It happened in the offseason and they

753
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: signed Jonathan Martin and he was so bad they could

754
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: not function on offense. But I I don't think Derek.

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00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Him and Derek were not on the same page. I

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00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like a mari. He wasn't really

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00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: feeling Derek that much. And it didn't feel like Derek

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00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: was all in on a Mari either. Uh. It was

759
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: just one of those times where for a Mari it

760
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: was just time for a fresh start. But I do

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00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: know this is a Mari ever gonna be Odell Beckham

762
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Speaker 1: or even like a Michael Thomas or Davante Adams. No.

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00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are top five six receivers, but

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: he's definitely should be like a top fifteen wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He should be someone every year giving you eighty to

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Speaker 1: nine ten touchdowns and he has flash like he has

767
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: that type talent and I think we should still see

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00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: him growing Dallas. But to answer your question in a

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Speaker 1: long winded way, I think it was a combination to everything.

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Speaker 1: I think Gruden just didn't love kind of the non

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Speaker 1: alpha in a MARII I think he did appreciate a

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Speaker 1: Mari speed and route running, but it kind of turned

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Speaker 1: him off that he's just not a one and he

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Speaker 1: was gonna have to get paid. And then Derek. I

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00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: think there's some into Derek just getting timid, not being

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00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: the same guy since his ankle hurt. I think there's

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00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: a combination of the tackles sucking. It was just a

778
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: combination of like ten different things that just equal a disaster.

779
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: And that's what the Raiders have had a disaster of

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00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: a season. Heard the podcast the other day and you

781
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: discussed college quarterback draft prospects, and you said you're not

782
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: sure what kind of prospect tool will be. To me,

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: he seems like he can make every though throw. I

784
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: watched Justin Herbert the other night and I'm thinking this

785
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: guy question. Could you teach us a little bit about

786
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: projecting quarterbacks to the NFL? Specifically, I would love to

787
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: watch college with more of a trained I I think

788
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: the key with caught watching college quarterback now has changed

789
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: a little bit because the rules have changed. I used

790
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: to look for just body type. I mean, you couldn't

791
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: be a midget and play, and that's really changed the

792
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: last five six years because Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield was short,

793
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: went one. Hell, even Johnny Manzel went in the first round.

794
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: So height is not as uh big of a factor

795
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: maybe as it was ten twenty thirty years ago. But

796
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: the first thing you want to do is just see

797
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: a guy physically, Like I've been lucky enough to stand

798
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: on a lot of NFL sidelines during warmups, and for

799
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the most part, every good quarterback I've seen live the

800
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: last seven eight years, whether it was when I lived

801
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: in Philly and they all came through. I went to

802
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: a Raider and Niner games forever seeing all these guys,

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00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: from Philip Rivers to Eli. Now these guys are older.

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00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: Now the Flacco's that that whole crew of guys big

805
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: bends to Brady to Rogers. I mean, these guys are big.

806
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Like if you ever see like Eli now, I know

807
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: he sucks now, but the Rivers, Uh, I got Roethlisberger,

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00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: you know run By, Like the dude is massive, like

809
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, those guys are huge, like Jared Goff.

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00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I was just watching Louis Riddick and Steve Young. Steve

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Speaker 1: Young is not the tallest guy I worked with Louis.

812
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Like Louis is legit six to Golf was towering over

813
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: him on television. It's huge. You know, Donald's massive, Rosen's tall, obviously,

814
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's really big, Patrick Mahomes is tall. Drabinsky is

815
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Speaker 1: a little smaller, but he's thick and he's a really

816
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Speaker 1: big athlete. So I think then the other first key

817
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I always look for, and it's a balance, like there

818
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: is a a level of arm strength you have to have.

819
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: You don't need to be Mahomes or Mike Vick. But

820
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I I do have a soft spot for an above

821
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Speaker 1: average arm. That's kind of my mindset. Like I'm not

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Speaker 1: big into like the Alex Smith soft arms. But if

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Speaker 1: you are going to have an average arm, you better

824
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: be very accurate. That's what Baker Mayfield had. Now, Baker

825
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: had a better arm than let's say Alex. But the

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Speaker 1: accuracy now is so key because all these teams are

827
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Speaker 1: running basically spread offenses. So accuracy and then all the

828
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Speaker 1: pocket stuff, just your pocket presence, your pocket feel, your

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Speaker 1: feel for the russ, your the rush. There's also a

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Speaker 1: level and this is hard to quantify. It's just your

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Speaker 1: instincts as a football player. It's one thing I loved

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Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield. One thing you see with Patrick Mahomes

833
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: just very instinctive players. Even see it a little bit

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Speaker 1: with Mitch as a runner, great runner, Deshaun Watson, very

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Speaker 1: instinctive player. So I'd say the knock on two is

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00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: just small, like is he even six ft tall? But

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Speaker 1: the positives are You're right, he can make every throw.

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00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Another knock would be And here's the hard part about

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Speaker 1: college now the NFL game that I just watched guys

840
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: were wide open all night long. So you're throwing into

841
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: wide open guys for the most part in the history

842
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: of the NFL, you're throwing into tight windows. You're throwing

843
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: in a tight spots. That's changing a little, so you

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Speaker 1: might actually have to change the way you evaluate quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But if you're playing like Chicago Bears or a good defense,

846
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: it's not everything is gonna be as wide openness tonight. Now,

847
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: let's face the Chiefs dbs aren't not good, but you

848
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: have to be able to make pinpoint throws in in

849
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: muddy pockets on the move. Now is huge, and there's

850
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: a huge element to quarterback, like there is a baseline

851
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: intelligence level. Have you ever heard some of these coaches

852
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL talk about play calls, how much verbiage

853
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: there is in one play call, Like your intellectual capacity

854
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: has to be big. It's really hard to play quarterback

855
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: if you're dumb. Now, there have been slower guys than

856
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: others that have overcome it. Like I think Brett farm

857
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: would be the first tell you he ain't rocket scientist,

858
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: you know. But if I don't even think Peyton Manning

859
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: would tell you he's not the smartest guy. He just

860
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: outworks you. And then there are just some guys that

861
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: are brilliant, like Drew Brees. Drew Brees like the combination

862
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: of both produe guys smart but he's also super hard worker.

863
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Or Aaron Rodgers really smart. So I I I think

864
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: it's changing. I've had to adapt my philosophy. Maybe I'm

865
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: most harsh onto Uh. Maybe he might be the first

866
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: perfect quarterback in two thousand twenty or whenever he's coming

867
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Speaker 1: out just hit wide open guys. May be I'm the

868
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: outdated one I've I don't know, so I I would

869
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: say accuracy is accuracy, arm strength, size, mobility, pocket presence, uh,

870
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: and side. Like I said size, we had to adapt

871
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: that a little bit. And you don't need to be

872
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: tower over people. It's just just there's so many things

873
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: that you can't quantify, like if you play receiver, how

874
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: fast are you? How big are you? Uh? How how

875
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: do you jump? How many catches do you have? How

876
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: do you produce? What are your go too routes? What

877
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: are you not good at? Like, it's for the most

878
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: part pretty quantifiable, Like same with running backs, same with linebackers.

879
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, I mean not saying the tape still matters.

880
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: But you can quantify a lot of stuff with the tape,

881
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: with you know, a breakdown of the size measurements as

882
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: production with quarterback, IANN give me production. But now in college,

883
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: what does that even mean? If I told you a

884
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: guy throws sixty touchdowns in college, what you wouldn't even

885
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: know what to say. But when you watch them, you know,

886
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: you know. And that's why the eye test, that's why

887
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: so many people can't miss on quarterbacks. They don't know

888
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: what they're looking at. I was lucky enough to be

889
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: around a guy that I feel has a pretty good,

890
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, idea of what he's looking for in quarterbacks,

891
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: and just got to watch him, coach him and coach read.

892
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: Now I'll give Andy some credit, like he's more open

893
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: minded than me with quarterbacks. He loved Alex and he

894
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: loves Mahomes, and he loves Michael Vick, and he loved

895
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: far and he loves McNabb. He's liked them all, all

896
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. Runners, short guys, tall guys, average arms,

897
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: big arms. I mean Kevin Cob, Cobe Cob, Kevin Cobb Cob,

898
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: I can't even remember his name, and he was starter

899
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: when I first got there. He was a terrible arm

900
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: It was averages. The day is long, Like Andy's really

901
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: open minded. Not every coach is okay, last one, John

902
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Am I crazy as a Colts fan to think that

903
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: comes two thousand twenty, the Colts could be a legit

904
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender and even favorites in the a f

905
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Speaker 1: C with the way luck in the old line of

906
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: look this year, in addition to assuming they draft a

907
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: few more defensive playmakers in the next couple of drafts,

908
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: with Darius Landard and Malik Hooker and my nuts. To

909
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: think the Colts can be a super Bowl team in

910
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: two years once Brady and bennef retired or at least

911
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: well past the peak of their abilities. Well, the problem

912
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Speaker 1: with the last part is Brady's already forty one years

913
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Speaker 1: old and still kicking. Roethlisberg is like thirty seven, still

914
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: going strong. But two thousand, I mean they're five and five,

915
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: they won four straight games. They're not out of the

916
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Speaker 1: playoff mix at all. They still could get that six seed.

917
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they make a run this year? I mean

918
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Speaker 1: Andrew lux Strown touchdown three touchdowns and seven straight games.

919
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: He looks awesome. Their defense is playing well like you said,

920
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: Darius Landard makes big time plays every game. Mac and

921
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: Hines are making plays. T hy Hilton looks fantastic, like

922
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: you said, the offensive line. The head coach is good.

923
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Speaker 1: Give Gosh from Daniels some credit for uber flues, you know.

924
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean he just fired him even before Frank Reichel

925
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: was there, and he just stayed and he's been pretty solid.

926
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Speaker 1: The Cults are good. Are the Colts a playoff team

927
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: right now? I think so. I think they're gonna make

928
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, or at least get damn close.

929
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Speaker 1: If I had to put a thousand dollars right now,

930
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: are the Colts at five and five more likely to

931
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: go seven and nine or nine and seven, I'd put

932
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Speaker 1: it on nine and seven and eight and eight as break,

933
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Speaker 1: I'd go nine and seven. I think they end up

934
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Speaker 1: at nine and seven or ten and six. I mean,

935
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Speaker 1: there's beside the Saints, there ain't five teams playing better

936
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Speaker 1: than them right now. Chiefs stealers, aren't. They just played

937
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: terrible on Sunday like the cultural rolling. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to play the Colts in a playoff game. Like we

939
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: just talked about the rules seven on we talked about

940
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: physical attributes. Andrew Lux six five. He's too forty. He

941
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: can run, he can make every throw, He's accurate, he's

942
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: a killer. He has incredible pocket presents. His understanding of

943
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: what you're doing on defense is incredible. His best receiver

944
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: is a five seven speed midget that he makes look like,

945
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, an all pro. Now, t Y is a

946
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: good player, but I mean, come on, feature number one

947
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Speaker 1: wide receiver and Luck. Again, I like t Y Hilton,

948
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: but come on, I mean, he should be a really

949
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: good number two. And that's what he's dealing with, and

950
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: he's always this is what he's dealt with, and he

951
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: just kicks ass. He's incredible. Andrew Luck is awesome sleeper

952
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: MVP candidate right now? Uh so, yeah, I mean I

953
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: two twenty. I don't think you need to look that

954
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: for so let's even be realistic. Let's say they go

955
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: nine and seven this year, make a wild card and

956
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: lose in the first round. Yeah, I'd say they're a

957
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: legitimate Super Bowl contender with another good offseason, Chris Ballard

958
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: flexing his muscles, having a good little GM run. Here,

959
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: let's sleep on Chris Ballard left at the altar by

960
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels doesn't flinch, might have even upgraded with Frank

961
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Speaker 1: and now his quarterback shoulders healthy. He's on pace for

962
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: like sixty touchdown throws. I'm a big Colts guy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: What a fun pod man, What a week? What a

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Speaker 1: Monday night game? What an incredible night. God, I love football.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening three and our podcast, John Middlecoff. Because

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Speaker 1: it's Turkey Day, I don't know if I'll do one

967
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Speaker 1: on Friday. I might see a Friday. If not, I'll

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Speaker 1: see you next week. God, blessed football man. Whoop