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Speaker 1: spoilers four the Star Wars prequels, various Clone Wars animated

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Speaker 1: hopefully we are also right. Helloah, my name is Jason

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Speaker 1: Concepcion and I am at approximately ninety eight percent of

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Speaker 1: full health and welcome to x ray Vision, the Cricket podcast,

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Speaker 1: where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture. Today. On today's episode, on previously on,

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Speaker 1: an announcement of a new Daredevil show on Disney, plus

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Kennedy's recent comments about her helming The Star Wars

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Speaker 1: IP plus a primer and watch listen Ubi Wan Kenobe,

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Speaker 1: which drops the day this podcast comes out, which means

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Speaker 1: we have not been able to see it because we

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Speaker 1: didn't get screeners. Nobody did. In the airlock, we'll be

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Speaker 1: diving deep into everything that we see in the new

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Speaker 1: the timestamps and the show notes that those will help

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Speaker 1: you with that. Enjoining me now is the best, the greatest,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling so much bad. I'm still I feel like

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Speaker 1: feel better. It's great that you're feeling better as well.

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Speaker 1: I would advise everyone out here to wear a mask

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Speaker 1: and not get this version of the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully this ends soon. But we're better. Thank you everyone

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Speaker 1: for your kind words, and yes, right, we're better and

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Speaker 1: we're back. Let's get into the news. New Daredevil show.

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Speaker 1: According to Variety there is a new Daredevil series moving

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Speaker 1: sources that Matt Corman and Chris Ord are attached to Right,

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Speaker 1: And basically, what we have to say about this is

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Speaker 1: We know we're right. It's nice to be It's nice

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Speaker 1: twelve and sixteen from season two, which is here on

431
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: this list, is that moment where I think they're in

432
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: there on I believe it's when they're transporting Setine back

433
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: to Corroussant because she's going to make the peace speech,

434
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: right and they're in the elevation and then it's it's

435
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: so funny when it ever, Seteen and Ov want it

436
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: together because they're just like bickering like old lovers. They

437
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: truly are like, well look at you, you're you're you.

438
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: You preach peace, but you're actually a warrior. You're you're

439
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: involved in war. Yeah, well I'm trying to stop the war.

440
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: And then just like doing this back and forth and

441
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: back and forth, and Anakin, like having watched this realizes like,

442
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, hold on a second. You're in love

443
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: with Setine, aren't you. It's a great moment. And I

444
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: think that that's a great pull, Like that would make

445
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: a lot of sense if I'm obi Wan, I would

446
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: feel terrible about that. Then here I am preaching this

447
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: thing that I can't even hold myself up to.

448
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: And I think something that makes the Clone War so effective,

449
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: and the thing that definitely convinced me really to get

450
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: into it was catching like a random episode that really

451
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: dealt with this stuff. Is like the getting to learn

452
00:26:52,400 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: that interior motivations and emotional strife behind Anakin's existence and

453
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: kind of how he could turn to the dark side,

454
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: and this notion of of destiny and.

455
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 4: Free will is so deep, Like there are episodes, there's episodes,

456
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: and the Clone Wars where you're like, this is a

457
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: kids show and there's episodes when you watch it and

458
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: you're just like, I'm gonna die, Like this is heartbreaking.

459
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: It is tremendously sad how everyone in Anakin's life essentially

460
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: fails him at every turn. The Jedi fail him at

461
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: every turn. Obi Wan, despite obi Wan's best intentions and

462
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: and uh and uh and real wisdom, absolutely fails and

463
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: again at every turn they completely miss uh, the manipulation

464
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: by Palpatine, they miss like everything, and then the whole

465
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: time like here here again is obi Wan deeply in

466
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: love with this really remarkable woman who is risking her

467
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: life every day to try and bring her people out

468
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: of its warlike past. And here he is, like completely

469
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: obviously to anyone who is looking at them, in love

470
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: with her. And yet he's telling his pat On, Hey, yeah,

471
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: we got to detach. You can't. Yeah, you like that,

472
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: You know you can't. You can't have it in your life.

473
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: You need you need to put it away. PS. I'm

474
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm you know, part of the security detail for my

475
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: for my lifelong love. I'm traveling with her.

476
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: Course, does that sound familiar to you?

477
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: You can relate to Yeah, as soon as we arrived,

478
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: you know on mandalor we went on a walk through

479
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: the park together. Ps you have to detach from everything.

480
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, Yeah.

481
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: I mean I always like this is not on their list, right,

482
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: but I I think about this episode so much, and

483
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: I feel like if they can bring even the tiniest

484
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: bit of the gravitas and like heartbreak. It's the seventeenth

485
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: episode of the third season, which is called Ghosts of

486
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: More and it's where the Jedi is like stranded on

487
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Mortis and Anakin like sees his future as Darth Vader

488
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: and he is like broken by it and the s

489
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: it's the it's the son and the father and and

490
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: and then he essentially has his memory wiped and he

491
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: has to like go back to living not knowing. And

492
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: I think about that all the time. And that was

493
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: the episode where I was like, I randomly caught it

494
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: on TV and I was like, Okay, I need to

495
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: watch this show. This is like gut punch TV, especially

496
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: if you care about these characters. And I really hope

497
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: with the Clone Wars being something that they're pointing people towards,

498
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: I just really hope that they're going to be able

499
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: to bring that kind of emotional theft to this show,

500
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: because that's one of the great things about longer format

501
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: storytelling and TV is you can kind of have these

502
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: these these explorations of these characters who are often just

503
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: very archetypal, like you know, Darth Beda and and Anakin.

504
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: You know, we didn't get We got to know a

505
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: little bit about him in the prequels, but not so much.

506
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: A lot of what people love comes from these expanded shows,

507
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: from the books, from you know, the kind of fan

508
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: love that keeps these characters alive. Even Dave Filoni, he's

509
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: a fan, you know. That's that's how this stuff gets made.

510
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: So I pitched this in pre pro and now I'm

511
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: going to say it here with the caveat knowing that

512
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: this will never happen. I think that they should reboot

513
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: the prequels. I think that they should do that.

514
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: I love this idea.

515
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: I think they should do them again. You take all

516
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: the emotional depth explored in Clone Wars and Rebels, you

517
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: take all those lessons learned and all the extra Star

518
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: Wars stuff that has come out in the intervening years.

519
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: That adds to the richness of the characters of Anakin

520
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: and oh we want and even Yoda and everybody else

521
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: in Palpatine. You take out all the races stuff, right, well,

522
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: anti Semitism, it's gone.

523
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: All the anti semitism.

524
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Of all the fucking trade Federation ship, all that stuff

525
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: you'd throw You do the jar Jar binks, all the lists.

526
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: You keep him as a character if you want, but like,

527
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: but throw out the kind of like the really terrible

528
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: racist stuff.

529
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Right.

530
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: You have massive advances in CGI technology. They've taken place

531
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: in the in the intervening three decades, right and and

532
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: you and you rebot them, you do them again. I

533
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: think it would like listen, it won't happen, but it

534
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: would be fucking great, like they would be. I think

535
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: you could make them legitimately great. They are. Of course,

536
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: these prequels are beloved because for a lot of people

537
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: that was their Star Wars, right and and they're beloved

538
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: in a very interesting way, and certainly the Clone Wars

539
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: helped with that. But I think you can make them

540
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: like legitimately heartbreakingly like a real Star Wars space tragedy.

541
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: That's great storytelling. Like, I think it could really be

542
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: great if they did.

543
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: If you'd have told most people ten years ago, maybe

544
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: five years ago, probably ten years ago that they were

545
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: going to be making an obi wan Anakin show with

546
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Hayden and you and McGregor. Most people wouldn't have believed you.

547
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: We're a reality a joke. It's untrue.

548
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: This is not gonna happen. So I don't think we're

549
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: that far off. I think that these stories and this

550
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: era is very ripe for the picking. And we know

551
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: how much familiarity breeds like corporate excitement when it comes

552
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: to IP, So I don't think we're that far off.

553
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I love this era. I think it's like

554
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: it's almost like George Lucas at his most on, like

555
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: he's least reined in, like he was just allowed to

556
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: do whatever he wanted, and in some places that was

557
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: really bad, like the aforementioned racism and anti semitism that

558
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: we want to see go on. But like I will

559
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: never stop respecting the man for just like being like

560
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: I love bureaucracy, Like yes, that's why I'm I'm space

561
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: bureaucracy and I'm doing you know what that is has

562
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: become a very big part of the lot. We impressed

563
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: the TV as well. Think about the Game of thrones.

564
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of bureaucracy and.

565
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Game like the death of democracy, whether in space you know,

566
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: like many many, many, many many millennia go or or

567
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: in a fantasy universe is pretty Germane right now. So

568
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. I think it would

569
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: be I think it would be so fun if they

570
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: do it again. Okay, up next the airlock.

571
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: All the board the goat boat, Folks.

572
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Get aboard, Toothnasure is here, is here. And today we

573
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: were diving into the Thor Love and Thunder trailer, priming

574
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: you for what to expect as we enter, as we

575
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: fly deeper into cosmic Marvel territory, cosmic God territory, and

576
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: of course we'll be talking about some of those cosmic

577
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: characters that that are referenced in the trailer. And Plus,

578
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: since we're in a fantastic mood, seeing as we are

579
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: almost all the way back from our tussle with the

580
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: novel Coronavirus COVID nineteen, Rosie and I are going to

581
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: give you our reactions on the first two episodes of

582
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel in a completely non spoiler fashion. First Love

583
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: and Thunder the trailer, kids.

584
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: Get the pop corner.

585
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the story of the space Viking.

586
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: He was no ordinary man.

587
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: He was a god.

588
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: After stating planet Earth for the five hundredth time, throws

589
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: it off on a new journey, would he go and shape?

590
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: He went from dead board the god Bard.

591
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: And after all that he reclaimed his title as the

592
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: one and only four.

593
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Oh spook too soon, Jane.

594
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so first off, what did you think of the

595
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: trailer before we dive into the kind of some of

596
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: the details of the stuff that we that we see

597
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: and they're in. I love this trailer.

598
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like a thor Ragnarok superstar. That to me, Yes,

599
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: one of the best recontextualizing of a character ever, one

600
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: of the best outrageous third sequel in a franchise that

601
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: just somehow like completely reinvigorates the character I and I

602
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: I love how much this kind of leans into the

603
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: van are of it all, Like it's yeah, you know,

604
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: the dulcet tones of like orchestral sweet child of Mine

605
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: are in the background, and he's wearing his he's wearing

606
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: his strongest avenga you know, truck a cap while he's

607
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: exercising with Suta's chains. Like I just the vibes I matcula.

608
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: Let's go through it. So we open with Thor meditating

609
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: and you can see like two two humanoid creatures like

610
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: in in profile and shadow like walking up to his

611
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: little meditation tree. Korg is there with a bunch of locals. Now,

612
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: this is probably the planet the movie version of the

613
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: planet Indigar, which is the planet that we open on

614
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: in Thor, God of Thunder, Jason Aaron's opening to this

615
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: arc in the comics. They are a planet of really

616
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: like almost innocent aliens who worship these gods, the sky Lords.

617
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: And I don't know how Thor comes here or why

618
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Cork is with him, but it feels like that's what

619
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: this is. This is like an opening of God in Thunder.

620
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: And it seems like in a moment in the trailer

621
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: that kind of comes up quite quickly, he throws his

622
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: duster off on this planet and he seems to be

623
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: with the Guardians, and it looks like it's the same planet,

624
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: So I think this is gonna be I agree they

625
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: they probably arrive with the Guardians, or he goes there

626
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: with the Guardians and Cork meets him there, and it

627
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of this trailer hints to me that The Guardians

628
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: will be the opening part of this movie.

629
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: I agree. I completely agree with you. I think it's

630
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. I think it's gonna be five minutes or so.

631
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: And then we leave the Guardians. Something is going to happen.

632
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Thor is gonna find something, probably you know, murdered gods, right,

633
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: and then he's going to say, I've got to go

634
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: back to New Asgar, to go back, go back to

635
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: Earth to you know, check in. There have been away

636
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: for however long so that that senior is talking about,

637
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: So I think we're probably still on Indigar. You see

638
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: the he's fighting with the Guardians. There's all sorts of

639
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: like laser shots coming in, so they're not fighting Gore

640
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: at this point in time. I think they're kind of

641
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 1: like do you think they're fighting?

642
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: What? Do you who?

643
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: Do you think they're fighting?

644
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: You know? I think they're kind of like a hero's

645
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: for hire, like Cosmic Ghostbusters. I think they're they're less

646
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: eight team, a team in space kind of like think

647
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: I think that they're I think that Thor's presence has

648
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: probably made them a little less criminally inclined and also

649
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: post the kind of carnage and then second chance of endgame.

650
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: I think that the Guardians will kind of be going

651
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: around and I think that we will hear the term

652
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: as Guardians of the Galaxy, which was kind of the

653
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: comic book joke of Thor joining them, and I think

654
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: like we will probably see him and them in a montage,

655
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: probably to some hair metal and they're like kind of

656
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: helping different people. Thor is get going from as they

657
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: call it, and the trailer Dad Bod to God Bod

658
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: and he's doing his training. I think we'll see some

659
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: kind of montage and it will end with them on

660
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: this planet that could be Indigar, and that will kind

661
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: of be where the meat of the story actually begins.

662
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: It's add that during those opening Indigar scenes, when Thor

663
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: throws off his jacket, he's wearing like the Eric Masters,

664
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: and Thor like, yeah, what certainly appears to be the

665
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: thunder Strike outfit. And we mentioned him before. Eric Thunderstrike

666
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: is Eric Masterson, who is like an architect, a New

667
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: York based architect. He was also blonde, also very tall,

668
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: also buff. It turned out was worthy of lifting me

669
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: on your and so wielded the power of Thor for

670
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: a certain part of time. During Roger Stern's run on

671
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: the Avengers, and it's man, every I'd mentioned this before,

672
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: but every issue is really funny of the Avengers during

673
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: this time because it's like there's always that thought bubble,

674
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, rogerter needs to remind the audience, like you know,

675
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: somebody will say, oh, Thor remember that time back on

676
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: as Guard, and then there'll be this little thought bubble

677
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: where thunderstrikeer is like they all think I'm Thor, but

678
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: really I'm Eric Masterson.

679
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and like and he first debuts is like

680
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: Thunderstrike in Thor three ninety one, which was in nineteen

681
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: eighty eight. But I will say the character design, it's

682
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: Tom Defalcon and friends and Ron Friends' character sign is

683
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: so extremely nineties, Like he is so ahead of the

684
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: cub and they are really leaning into that here. Like

685
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: something I think is really interesting that I don't even

686
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: think we've talked about because we've talked about Thor, God

687
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: of Thunder a lot. I was reading it, and we

688
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: know that God the god Butcher is is a big

689
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: part of that. But something that's really interesting in that

690
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: story that I feel like comes across in this trailer

691
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: in a kind of unexpected way. In that story, we

692
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: learned that there's three different versions of Thor, and they're

693
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: all fighting Gore, the god Butcher in their own timeline

694
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

695
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: Right, King Thor, regular Thor and then the young impetuous Ye.

696
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: And something I think is really interesting is that in

697
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: these trailers we have seen different versions of Thorn. Now

698
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: it's all the same timeline, but we are seeing we

699
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: are seeing an Eric Masterson style Thor. We see him

700
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: in his battle armor, which we get to see his

701
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: mask for for the first time. We're also seeing Jane

702
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: as Thor, and I hope that we'll probably see like

703
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: a beta ray Bill, who's a cosmic alien who held Molnir.

704
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: You know, I think that there's something to this notion

705
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: of Even in this trailer that Cork's voice over, you know,

706
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: he says, and he got his god bod back, and

707
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: he was going to reclaim Molnir and his place as

708
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: the one and only Thor, and then he goes spoke

709
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: too soon, and Jane is there. So I think that

710
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: while we're not going to see necessarily three Odin's sons,

711
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: I think that we are. This is all about the

712
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: notion of like who is Thor and different versions of Thor,

713
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: whether it's Jane, whether it's maybe Valkyrie, maybe it's Beta

714
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: ray Bill, maybe it's this Eric Masterson iteration. I think

715
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: the notion of many different Thaws and the idea of

716
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: who Thor is and what Thor is gonna really play

717
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: into this movie in a way that kind of leans

718
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: into that.

719
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned that Thor armor from the comics. I forget.

720
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like it's like four hundred

721
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: or three something. So that's the Thor battle armor. Thor

722
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: had to wear that, and it is very nineties or

723
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: three seventy eight. So he had to wear that because

724
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: Hella had like cursed him and his bones became like

725
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: super super prittle, like maybe you know, you could just

726
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: like hit him and then he'd break his bones and

727
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: so he was like always in pain. So he had

728
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: to have this armor forged so that he could hold

729
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: that in. I it'll be interesting to see if that

730
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: is part of it. My thought is that Thor is

731
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: like has to go to some Yeah, I wonder why

732
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: he forges it, but it'll be interesting to see. I

733
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: wonder if it's like he has to go to some

734
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: kind of ceremony some like special because because he has

735
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: to go back to new Asgarden. There is a scene

736
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: in there where it seems like they're at either a

737
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: museum opening or some kind of ceremony with a bunch

738
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: of other humans around. And I wonder, and he's wearing

739
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: the armor, so I wonder if it's like somewhat ceremonial.

740
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: So I think this is this is out there right.

741
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to be true. But

742
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 2: one thing we know about that MCU is they love

743
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: to tie something back to Tony Tony start right. They

744
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: love that guy. Robert Downey Jr. MC wouldn't exist without him,

745
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: Tony Stark MC wouldn't exist that In the comics, Thor

746
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: gets the idea to build the armor because Tony makes

747
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: him like a cast when his arm breaks, and the

748
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: battle armor is kind of inspired by Slash, similar to

749
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: and I wonder if you know Thor has the hat

750
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: that says, you know, strongest Avenger and his dream was

751
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously by Tony and for Tony to

752
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: see him as this kind of important part of the team.

753
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: I wonder if part of his journey will be finding

754
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: that Tony made him a prototype armor. I feel like

755
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: that I would love it to be something more cosmic,

756
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: But I feel like there's there's some the fact that

757
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: Tony is connected to it in the comics, and that

758
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: MCU loves Tony and everyone's kind of had their Tony journey.

759
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if at least part of it

760
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: is connected back to or Tony was the one who

761
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: found it. And we also see we see what looks

762
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: like a kind of like dead Star. So I do

763
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: wonder if we'll maybe go back to the to the

764
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: the heart of the Star where he forged Stormbreaker at

765
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: some point as well. I think those two kind of

766
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: big bits.

767
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: So after that kind of opening battle scene with with

768
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: the Guardians, we go to New as Guard and its

769
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: clear New as Guard is doing great, is doing fucking rate.

770
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: There's a killing course, there's three like Viking Cruise line

771
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: cruise ships that are top there, and it's very clear

772
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: that like New Asgart is for whatever else has been

773
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: going on. Of course that the people have been through

774
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: through some real tragedies in recent MCU movies, but now

775
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: despite that being the case, they are clearly making a

776
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: lot of money from tourism, killing. Yeah, absolutely killing it.

777
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: We get that clip that you mentioned with Thor with

778
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the struggles Avenger like knockoff hat training with the chains.

779
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing that's out there. You mentioned that

780
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's Surter. There's like an internet rumor going out

781
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: there that it could be a watcher, Like, maybe that's it.

782
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: That's it.

783
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: Definitely the the the I assume that because of Marvel

784
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: and Easter Eggs, it's probably sat As Chains. But I

785
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: do think that the dead body that we see does

786
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: not look like him, and it has a very different

787
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: shaped face, and that would be really interesting if it

788
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: was a watcher. There's a lot of things there can

789
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: be a watcher. We can lose a few.

790
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can lose it. There are many many watches.

791
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: I wonder if do you think that that person because

792
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: when I see like chains and torture, I think Gore's victims.

793
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's like sor found this and that's victims. Yeah,

794
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: it either inspires him or he later realizes, oh that's

795
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: what that was. Yeah, I think that while.

796
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: I think you're right, I think maybe the moment that

797
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: we saw in the first trailer that was so impactful,

798
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: that was taken from Asad ribbiks are directly. Maybe that's

799
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: the moment when Thor starts putting it together, that this

800
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: isn't a one off thing, but in the moment that's

801
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: more of like a funny. He's just training, and yeah,

802
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: there's skeletons, because you know, in the beginning of Ragnarok,

803
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: he's just chilling with a skeleton and that's just what

804
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: it is. And then he starts putting that together. I

805
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: think that's really clever.

806
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: And now if that is a Watcher, it also calls

807
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, just the fact that we're dealing with a

808
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: movie where Jane Foster as thora calls to mind original sin,

809
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: which I think we've mentioned before, which is that the

810
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: Who Done It kind of Marvel Comics arc from five

811
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: or six years back where the Watcher is murdered and

812
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: no one knows who've done it. I'm not going to

813
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: spoil who done it, but at the end of that

814
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: arc there is another mystery in which something is whispered

815
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: into Thor's ear and all of a sudden that whatever

816
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: that is, that secret, it makes Thor unworthy and he

817
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: can't he can't hold Melier anymore. And that's essentially how

818
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: Jane comes into possession of it, so that that could

819
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Then, Okay, so then we have

820
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: a scene of Jane riding either Valkyrie's horse or maybe

821
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: she gets one. Now maybe she has her own Alchyri

822
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: horse now which I think in the comics is it

823
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: called myster horse? I forget what the da.

824
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: Uh?

825
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: And then she crashes through the ceiling of a temple

826
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: on some some world somewhere, and you have a theory

827
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: on what this world could possibly be. And then in

828
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: that kind of like secret chamber, we see statues of

829
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: several cosmic degaties. We see a watcher, probably a watu,

830
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: we could guess it's a watu the watcher. We see

831
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: the three headed, three faced rather living tribunal. We see

832
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: the Mistress Death, who is of course Thanos's girlfriend.

833
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a big like to see Death

834
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: in the MCU thing. That's yeah, like that's huge for

835
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: fans of the Jim style and Thanos stuff, and also

836
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: just like for Thanos fans in general. Death is that's

837
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: the major change that they they made in the in

838
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: the Infinity War saga.

839
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: And then Infinity on the end and then either Eon

840
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: or Eternity next to Infinity. Now, if it's Eternity, it

841
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: makes sense because Eternity Infinity are brother and sister. And

842
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: if it's Eon, it kind of makes sense because Eon,

843
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, is a huge, very ancient cosmic deity who

844
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: is directly related to Quasar and yeah, and he quantum bands.

845
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: So that would make sense to have it be Eon

846
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: or Epoch. Both of them have this kind of like

847
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Epoch is his daughter and he created Yeah, he created

848
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: the quantum bands, and Epoch was the one who was

849
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: took over and was able to bestow it upon the

850
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: you know, the protectors of the universe. So it will

851
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: be interesting. This is a very interesting collection of characters.

852
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Let's discuss these cosmic duties. So we've been dealing a

853
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: lot whether it's you know, Moonnight previously, previous Thar films,

854
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: we've been dealing a lot with Marvel gods, Marvel deities.

855
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: Cosmic deities are like the gods of the gods kind of.

856
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: So you have Watsu is not really a god, who's

857
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: just kind of like a cosmic peeper whose.

858
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Job it is cosmic.

859
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: Cosmic warriors job is to like watch everything that happens

860
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: in their particular realm of the galaxy in the universe.

861
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: The Living Tribunal very interesting cosmic deity. It basically judges. Yeah,

862
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: he's a judge.

863
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: He's a judge. Guy just be judging, judging all times.

864
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: He's judging, you know, whether something is in balance or

865
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: not and should be part of the cosmos.

866
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: That to me seems like a really interesting inclusion because

867
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: at the end of everyone's favorite Marvel movie e Tunnels

868
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: the Arisham, you know, the celestials, they kind of like

869
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: warned the humans, They warned the eternals that somebody was

870
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: judgment was coming, that somebody cosmic was coming to judge

871
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: Earth to see whether or not it was worth them

872
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: killing a celestial and saving humanity. I think that the

873
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: Living Tribunal would be a very choice option for that.

874
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: There's also the notion that that could be a way

875
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: of introducing like a galactus or something like that as

876
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: basically a punishment or a judgment on humans. But yeah,

877
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: the fact that these characters are here is it feels

878
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: like more than an Easter egg.

879
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mistress death iconic was iconic, and if you think

880
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: back to our original Avengers movie, the stinger of that

881
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: is the reveal that you know, Thanos is behind all

882
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: of this, and Thanos's lackey says, you know, to the humans,

883
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: they are powerful, but you know, to tempt to go

884
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: against them is to court death. And that was the

885
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: court death line was our signal that, oh shit, this

886
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: is Santos. Because in the comics, everything Santos does he

887
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: does because he has been brutally friend zoned by Death

888
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: and he's just trying to impress her all the time.

889
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to impress her. And how better to

890
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: impress Death than to kill half of the living creatures.

891
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: That's the thing in the comics. This is not like

892
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: a Oh it's not like a weird eco fascist like

893
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: that everyone will survive if we kill half of the world. No,

894
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: this is no like, oh, couldn't he just use the

895
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: reality gem to make some more potatoes. No, he just

896
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: did it because he loves death. He loves death. He's

897
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: gonna kill a lot of people so Death will be

898
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: impressed alas she is rarely ever impressed.

899
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's rarely rarely ever. And then finally, either Eon

900
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: or Eternity and Infinity it the attorney Infinity are the easiest.

901
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: Their brother and sister and they're just basically like the

902
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: manifestations of different kinds of infinity, right, Eternity is basically

903
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: like everything in the universe.

904
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like time and space, matter, energy, like everything, and

905
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: and it's really these are really like abstract.

906
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: It's incredibly abstract. And don't worry if it's weird, folks,

907
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: because believe me, it is weird. And when they hear

908
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: in the comics, it's always like a drizzle of them,

909
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: because if you think too hard about it, you're like,

910
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: this is super weird.

911
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is more like this is that stuff where

912
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: comics can be so fantastical and where a lot of

913
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: this stuff is not really codified in like canon or anything.

914
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: It's more just like these are weird things that these

915
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: creators sprinkled in to make writing these comics every single

916
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: week more exciting for them, more strange, more experimental. And

917
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: so a lot of times when we're talking about this stuff,

918
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about characters who have appeared in a few things,

919
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: or who's Who's canon kind of stretches and changes and

920
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: is absolutely abstract, and uh yeah, so and in the comics,

921
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: like infinity is really interesting. Google them because this is

922
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: an or this is an audio experience, but Infinity has

923
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: like an outrageously sick character design that's really weird. But

924
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: in some versions, like the Quantum Bands actually like tap

925
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: into Infinity, So there's kind of all these different It

926
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: feels like it's not a coincidence that this trailer has

927
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 2: this really big cinematic shot of these cosmic entities, which

928
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 2: is I believe what they in the comics, they usually

929
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: call them cosmic beings, but I think that the Collector

930
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: at some point calls them cosmic entities and the MCU,

931
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: so it's kind of the Infinity Gems versus Infinity Stones.

932
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a I don't think it's

933
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: a coincidence that we're seeing these cosmic entities in a

934
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: movie that is essentially going to come out a month

935
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: after Miss Marvel debuts. I agree with you, and we

936
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: know that just from the trailers and what we've seen

937
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: so far of the powers that we've discussed before, that

938
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: she has these kind of gauntlets that seem like they

939
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: could be related to or inspired by the Quantum Bands,

940
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: And in the trailer she even says say how does

941
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: it feel? And she says cosmic, So you know, the

942
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: notion of the Marvel cosmic is becoming more and more interesting.

943
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: The question is in the context of seeing this in

944
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: the Thaw trailer and knowing that Gor, the god butcher,

945
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: who we meet for the first time in this trailer

946
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: and is terrifying. Yeah, are these are the statues of

947
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: these deities because they're dead? Has Gore killed them? Are

948
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: these are these deities who existed so long ago? That

949
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: are the gods now worship them? Like? That's what I

950
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: find really interesting.

951
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Well, I found myself wondering like where this place that

952
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: mm hmm Jane finds herself is because you know now

953
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: you had texted us that maybe it's Chronux, which is

954
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: this like hidden realm beyond space, beyond time that is

955
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: like the it's basically like the temple of the origin

956
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: of like the universe.

957
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: And it's in for God of Thunder, our favorite referring

958
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: to Arc Jason Aarron and Assad again asad Ribbic, and

959
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: it plays a major part in that. But that would

960
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: be like if if that's what this is, it would

961
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: be it would be an expansion and different version because

962
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: in there the generic kind of time gods live there

963
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: and they get killed by Gore and then he uses

964
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: their blood to travel to a different timeline to build

965
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: this weapon, the god bomb, right, the god. So in

966
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: that version, I think if this was the MCU adapting

967
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: that and maybe that's why Jane is there, then it

968
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: could be something along the lines of kind of like

969
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: a situation where it's like the time gods maybe worshiped

970
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: the cosmic deities and that's why they're there.

971
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: Like that, you know, something like that.

972
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: So with like, Tiger's done a great job of establishing

973
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: through production design the existence of characters that he obviously

974
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: really cares about. So like in thor Ragnarok on the

975
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: planet where that was essentially like the the kind of

976
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: World War hulk like planet, like the Sakar. On that planet,

977
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: there was this huge kind of totem and one of

978
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: the faces that was translated there that had been like

979
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: kind of sculpted was Beta ray Bill. So in that way,

980
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: I really like the notion that you can kind of

981
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: introduce these characters into existence by being like other people

982
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: worship them, and then whether or not we get to

983
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: truly explore they are. I mean, I think that Death

984
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: being here is a big deal because I am truly

985
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: a believer that they're going to resurrect Banos, and if

986
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: they do it, death being a part of it, death

987
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: resurrecting him potentially. I think it just makes so much sense,

988
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: especially with Adam Warlock about to appear. This is going

989
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: to be the most cosmic phase of the MCU.

990
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, okay. So then we

991
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: get some battle scene on the streets of a new Asgard.

992
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: We get to see Jane and Thor back together. Very

993
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: interesting note here. He's like, She's like, how long has

994
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: it been? And clearly like Thor has been out in

995
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: space like doing stuff for years. She's like, it's it's

996
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: been like something like three years and he's like, no,

997
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: it's been eight and a half, five year difference, Jane,

998
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Jane was blipped right right. That's like, that's the only

999
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: way it makes sense. Okay, So I agree with that.

1000
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Then we get the scene of what is either Olympus

1001
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: or like Omnipotent City from from jacent Arians run on Thor.

1002
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Omnipotent City is this like meeting place in the cosmos

1003
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: where like all the gods like come and hang out

1004
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: and they talk about stuff that's happening.

1005
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: And we do see a bit later on in the

1006
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: final like kind of stinger, which has like a comedic

1007
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: a great comedic moment that we'll get to. We do

1008
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: see that that it looks like there are seats for

1009
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: multiple different gods. Whether or not that's different gods from

1010
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: different spaces or if it's just the pantheon of Greek gods,

1011
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting to kind of know. I think you

1012
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: could really be onto something there.

1013
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, this is a staple of Thor comics throughout

1014
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: the years, This like council of godheads when all the

1015
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: different gods from all the different world cultures get together

1016
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: talk about shit. I would imagine if there is like

1017
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 1: a man add alien butcher running around is a necro

1018
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: sword killing gods all through the timeline, that the gods

1019
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: would need to get together and talk it out. So

1020
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: that's probably what that is, you know, I actually you

1021
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: know what I.

1022
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: Think as well, Like so we kind of see that

1023
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: the Greek the Zeus, at least in this is kind

1024
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: of a comedic figure, which is very realistic to the mythology,

1025
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: but also like I want, we saw an Empire magazine

1026
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: I believe, released an image of Jane Foster Valkyrie and

1027
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: a woman who looked like Bass sitting in front. I

1028
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: wonder if they go to the gods, to the infinite embassy,

1029
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: to the omnipotent space and in the hopes of finding

1030
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: that serious counsel. And I wonder if they're two bacchanal

1031
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: and two kind of like lax and I wonder if

1032
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: we see that. My gut says Zo is not long

1033
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: for this world. I think that there is going to

1034
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: be a god massacre. And I wonder if Jane and

1035
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: Valkyrie and bast have to create their own more serious

1036
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: we're going to do something about it version.

1037
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think. However, they arrive there on the you know,

1038
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: on the goat boat. It's not exactly planned because they

1039
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: crashed through like the ceiling of it. Yeah, I think

1040
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: you're right. Zeus is at the end fight where we

1041
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: see Valkyrie, Jane and Thor fighting Gore. Valkyrie is like

1042
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: wielding ye look like Zeus's lightning, his lightning spear and

1043
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: his like like lightning weaponry. The only thing that I

1044
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: can draw from that is Zeus.

1045
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: He's dead.

1046
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: He is God because he's I can't imagine Zeus being

1047
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: the type of guy be.

1048
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, take my spear.

1049
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah.

1050
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: So something that we haven't really talked about, but like

1051
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: we do get is so in all the trailers, in

1052
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: the promo images, we'd said, like you kept bringing out

1053
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: this is a villain who doesn't appear in the trailers,

1054
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: but this is a very Gore heavy trailer.

1055
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So what did you think when you saw him?

1056
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved the design. I loved that

1057
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: you could see his face. Maybe that is like from

1058
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,959
Speaker 1: the early days of Gore and that he evolves into

1059
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: this more like demonic thing. But I thought it was

1060
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: really chilling. We got a view of the necrosord, which

1061
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: was amazing for those of you who maybe haven't heard

1062
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: us talk about this before. So, the necros is Gore's weapon.

1063
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: It is in Marvel cannon, like the original symbiote, Like

1064
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: Venom came from this, Like this is the thing that

1065
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: created Venom, that created the creatures that would go on

1066
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: to become Carnage, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And

1067
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he looked super scary.

1068
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: He looks so scary and like really gross.

1069
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: I think like gross, which I like.

1070
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: Something that people often say about Marvel movies and have

1071
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: said pretty much since the beginning is it. It's hard

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: to make like a great Marvel villain. And obviously I

1073
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: think Thanos is the is the contradiction to that that

1074
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of treves the rule like I think people but generally,

1075
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: you know, like I like the cartooniness of a lot

1076
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: of the villains like Ultron, and I even like Iron

1077
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: Man two. I love you know that those are I'm

1078
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 2: not a whiblash hater, but like this is a very

1079
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: different vibe. Like and Christian Bale is playing at Shakespearean like, yeah,

1080
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: you have a shot of him looking at the camera

1081
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: saying like all God's must die, and it's like chilling

1082
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: and something that I think is really cool that I

1083
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: can't I cannot wait to see how this translates. It

1084
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: feels so comic, Bookie is it looks like whenever Gore

1085
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: killed as a planet or he has a space that

1086
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: is entirely gray scale and everything there is black and white,

1087
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: and that just looks so cool. And depending on when

1088
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: we see him fighting other people, sometimes they are also

1089
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: black and white, or sometimes they are in color and

1090
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: he is in black and white. I'm really excited to

1091
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: see how that is, how that kind of comes across.

1092
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: And also something and I know. I'm sorry it's always

1093
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: going back to the eternals, but I did. I'm sorry,

1094
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: it has to happen. This came back. I'm sorry it

1095
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: is in the mc guys. I'm sorry. It's it is

1096
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: likely that it could play a part. But something that

1097
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: I was when I was reading up on All Black

1098
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: the Necrosword, the first symbia that was actually created by Null,

1099
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 2: another character that we've talked about who's been very big

1100
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: in Marvel in the last couple of years. But they

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: tempered the sword using like the the power that came

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: off of a dying celestial. So I just think that

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01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: there is a version where the celest the death of

1104
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: the Celestial at the end of the Tunnels, could have

1105
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: been how Gore suddenly has this sword.

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: I have.

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: I have a similar theory. I love to kind of

1108
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: sort of. So at the end of this trailer, we

1109
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: see this battle taking place on this like dead desolate moon, right,

1110
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: that's either Cronux or some other place where you know

1111
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: in the comics, as you mentioned, like Gore goes and

1112
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: enslaves a bunch of gods to build this god bomb,

1113
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: which she's then gonna set off and it's gonna kill

1114
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: all the gods. We see in the midst of this fight,

1115
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: like Gore shove the neckro sword down into the into

1116
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: the surface of this moon. I think the moon could

1117
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: be the god bomb.

1118
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: I think it's the moon that is so sick.

1119
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's Listen, this feels like

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01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: another thing where I like, probably gonna be wrong, but

1121
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: I do wonder if the I think the moon could

1122
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: be the godbomb.

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Speaker 2: I love that because if you think about it as well,

1124
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: just on like a basic scientific level, and the number

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01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: one way to decimate like a solar system and specifically

1126
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: a planet is to fuck with the moon. Let alone.

1127
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: If you actually make it into a legitimate weapon, that

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01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: also could be really interesting because I think Awatuo lives

1129
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: on the moon or a moon at some point, so

1130
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: maybe there is something there connected to like the death

1131
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: of a watcher and the moon. I mean, this is

1132
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: just so exciting, Like how often do we get a

1133
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: trailer that has this much stuff that you can just

1134
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: blak it down like it's it's so fun And that's

1135
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: before like there's so much action in this trailer and

1136
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: so many fun nods and moments that you don't even

1137
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: really like we haven't even really touched on just how

1138
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: good the character beats are, like for seeing Jane and

1139
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: also like it could be a misdirect but the trailer

1140
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: and one of the last things see in the trailer

1141
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: is Gore says, you know, he's looking really gross and

1142
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: he's like got black stuff like coming out of his mouth,

1143
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: and he's like, Oh, you're not like the other gods

1144
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: I've killed. You know, you have something worth fighting for.

1145
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: And we see what looks like Jane and four connecting

1146
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: like Pinky to the.

1147
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: Park and that's that Actually, like that that I felt

1148
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: a swell in my heart when I saw that. I'm like,

1149
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: I would love to.

1150
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: See this have a romantic element to it or have

1151
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: that kind of at least the notion of like love

1152
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: being this really important part in a lot of comics,

1153
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: you know, love does save the day, Like that's a

1154
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: big part of Young Avengers, Like that can happen, And

1155
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: I would Tiger's the kind of person who I think,

1156
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: especially after watching like our Flagman's death, and I think

1157
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: that he's the kind of person who isn't afraid to

1158
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: bring that element to these stories. And I think that

1159
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: Jane and Thor is a pairing that a lot of

1160
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: Marvel fans have really loved for a really long time,

1161
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: so it could be cool to see it go in

1162
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 2: that direction. But who knows, Maybe they're just Todden fingers

1163
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: because they're friends, and Jane and Valkyrie will be gay,

1164
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: or maybe it'll be a thropple.

1165
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: Who knows a wild man he is.

1166
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: I believe him.

1167
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I'm a little I don't want to

1168
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: put this bad juju out there, but I'm a little

1169
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: bad jee and there's gonna be there's gonna be a

1170
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: lot of gods that die. I'm a little worried about

1171
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: Valkyrie surviving this movie a tiny bit.

1172
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: I I feel your fear, and you know what I

1173
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: have to say. I made short karra before The Eternals

1174
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: came out. I made a ranking of the Eternals of

1175
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: who was gonna survive right, And I was mostly absolutely wrong,

1176
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: And I that movie changed my the amount of trust

1177
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: that I put into these movies to keep characters alive,

1178
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: especially queer characters and people of color. So I'm hoping

1179
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: that Valkyrie does survive because she's one of my all

1180
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: time favorite characters. I was actually gonna wear my Valkyrie

1181
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: t shirt, but it's like a kid's T shirt and

1182
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't really fit me. It's really uncomfortable. I need

1183
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: to turn it into like a cool jacket patch. They

1184
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: made the romance between Thor and Jane seem so cute

1185
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: here that I am worried that that will be the

1186
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: tragic romance because of the nature of how Jane gets

1187
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: her powers in the comics and the cancer storyline.

1188
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to bring that

1189
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: into it, but I agree with you that trouble. Also

1190
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: the fact that she's riding the Valkyrie horse, which shouldn't

1191
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: happen if it is Valkyrie's horse. So there's a lot

1192
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: of stuff that I'm concerned about. I hope it's fine.

1193
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: I want to want to survive. Don't hurt my children,

1194
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: my good gay Marvel children.

1195
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I agree. Okay, let's go quickly to we've

1196
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: now we we got screeners for the first two episodes

1197
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: of Miss Marvel, uh and we've watched them, and now

1198
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna give our non spoiler, non spoiler, non spoiler

1199
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: zero spoilers. Just vibe good emotional reaction to this, Rosie.

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: You go. First, I thought this show was so lovely.

1201
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: It reinvigorated my excitement in kind of new Marvel stuff.

1202
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: I thought the production and set design was spectacular. The

1203
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: cast is super funny, and I loved the element of

1204
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: Kamala's fan art that they built in and the way

1205
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: they use it. I think it is they've teased it

1206
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: in the trailers, but the way they use it in

1207
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: the show is so engaging, and it feels like a

1208
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: love letter to comics and how this stuff is even

1209
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 2: this stuff only exists because artists made beautiful artwork in

1210
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: comic books and then it could be adapted. So having

1211
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: a kind of artist at the center of this show too,

1212
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: it was I just thought it was so lovely and

1213
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see it feels very different. I

1214
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 2: know people say that about every Marvel show, but this,

1215
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: to me feels decidedly different, and I'll be very interest

1216
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: to see how it lands.

1217
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: I love that too. I thought that creativity in the service,

1218
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: as you said, of fleshing out Kamala's character, is so

1219
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: fun and great. There's a tremendous energy here that feels

1220
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: youthful in a way that is of course natural to

1221
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: the character, and I thought that it just felt like

1222
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna sound hokey, but this is

1223
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: like I think this is gonna be my favorite Disney

1224
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: plus Marvel show. And it just made me feel like, man,

1225
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: this is what I love about this energy right here

1226
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: is what I love about comics and comic books stuff.

1227
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about it, you know, because, like,

1228
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, I never respond to the like MCU DC

1229
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: comics movies or for babies like discourse that's out there

1230
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: like a lot, particularly from like the cinephile like corners

1231
01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: of the Internet. But this show made me reach connect

1232
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: in it, you know, like rediscover or find again that

1233
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: feeling that I have when I really like I'm into

1234
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: a comic that I like, you know, like I think

1235
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: that I think that running from the fact that, like

1236
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: comics are very often something you find like as a youth,

1237
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: as a youth, you know, as a young person, and

1238
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: the fact that like many people are still into it

1239
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they've grown into adulthood, I think

1240
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: like running from that part of it, or framing it

1241
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: as like a negative to me is actually like really

1242
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: shitty because you know, as I think I've said I've

1243
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: said numerous times, like in different ways, like I feel

1244
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: like the lessons. The reason that people find comics often

1245
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: is like because they feel like outside, like they are

1246
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: outside of uh, they're the people, they're growing up around,

1247
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, they're growing up around they and they're looking

1248
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: for a place in the world that comics gives them that.

1249
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: And I also feel like, you know a lot of

1250
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: the questions that young people confront often through comics, but

1251
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: in just in their lives, like do people love me?

1252
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: Do I have friends?

1253
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: Like?

1254
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Am I good? Like this show is going to be

1255
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 1: a lot about Kamala discovering if she's good at anything

1256
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: and wondering, like am I good in it? Is there

1257
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: anything I'm good at? Like? That is such an important

1258
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: question that I think people carry with them throughout their

1259
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: entire life, and this show like dives right into those

1260
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: really existential questions that people have when they're young, that

1261
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: they continue to have and don't admit throughout their entire life.

1262
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I loved about. It was only two episodes,

1263
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: but it just had a tremendous energy and heart that

1264
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: I loved, and like the visual style is so.

1265
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 5: Appealing, like so appealing, and like the jewel tones, like

1266
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 5: the Palette is that the tone is in between, like

1267
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 5: it feels very authentically young and cute, but also absolutely

1268
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: stylized and cool, and I just want to live in

1269
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 5: that world.

1270
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: And I think something that's really nice about this I

1271
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: feel like that will also really appeal to people who

1272
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: loved Hawkeye, even though I have to say it feels

1273
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: so different, which I thought that would be the one

1274
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 2: it's most similar in tone to. But something I think

1275
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: people will really love is in the same way that

1276
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: Kate is a fan of the heroes and of Hawkeye,

1277
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 2: Kamala is even more of a fan of all different

1278
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: kinds of heroes. And so if you grew up with

1279
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: the MCU, and if you love the MCU, even if

1280
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: you love the comics, amazing, but if you are an

1281
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: MCU fan, this is definitely a show that's going to

1282
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: speak to you on that level. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: really lovely. I think there's a lot of love for

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Speaker 2: the comics in their two and that speaks to me.

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Speaker 2: But I love the notion that people who love the

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Speaker 2: MCU will be able to watch this and have that

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Speaker 2: as like a relatable part of it. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to talk about this show properly when it comes out,

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Speaker 2: because there's just so much stuff listeners are gonna love.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's it for our show today. Big thank you

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Speaker 1: to the number one co host, Rosie Knight. Rosie, it

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Speaker 1: was so great to do the show with you. What

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Speaker 1: do you have to plug? Give us the plugs? What

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Speaker 1: are you plug in? What do you got?

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Speaker 2: I okay, So you can find me writing articles at

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Speaker 2: nerdist Igen, Polagon, all those good places. I am on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: Rosie Marx. That's my only social media Marx. And this

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Speaker 2: week I'm just gonna plug. It's been a tough week.

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Speaker 2: I love that we've been able to talk about all

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Speaker 2: this amazing stuff. So I'm just gonna plug the amazing

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Speaker 2: notion and feeling and action of doing mutual aid. I

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Speaker 2: would say, like I live the area I live in

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Speaker 2: La County, there is so many brilliant mutual aid organizations

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Speaker 2: of neighbors who do brilliant things like filling up community fridges.

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Speaker 1: And La Community Fridges. Yeah, one of those.

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Speaker 2: Homie made me where you can essentially like cook meals

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Speaker 2: and then you can either drop them off to somebody

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Speaker 2: to take out to your homeless neighbors, or you can

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Speaker 2: drop them off yourself, and I follow some brilliant people

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Speaker 2: on Instagram who if you follow me on there, you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to see them who do park lunches for

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Speaker 2: unhoused people in LA And no matter where you live,

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Speaker 2: whatever city, if you just search mutual Aid, if you

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Speaker 2: search on Instagram, you will find someone who is doing

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Speaker 2: this work and you can either vemmo them if you

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Speaker 2: don't have the energy or the scope or the time

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Speaker 2: to go out, or you can get involved. Are amazing

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Speaker 2: friend and co host Sig does Mutual Aid posts out

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Speaker 2: on his Instagram, So that's another great resource. And I

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Speaker 2: just think in these times when stuff is really tough,

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Speaker 2: yes it feels like you can't do anything, but actually

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Speaker 2: doing something really small and making a difference to like

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Speaker 2: one person or one or two people in your community

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Speaker 2: is a really great way of making a much bigger

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Speaker 2: difference than you realize. So that's that's something that's got

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Speaker 2: on me through the hard times, and I feel really

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Speaker 2: lucky that there's so many amazing people do that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that no matter where you live, there will

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Speaker 2: be people in your area who are doing that who

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Speaker 2: needs support, who would love to have you involved.

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Speaker 1: Well said folks. For everything that we do here, check

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Speaker 1: out our videos on Uncultured on the Uncultured YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: et cetera, check the show notes in our listener's guide

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Speaker 1: We love hearing from you. Don't forget. Catch the next

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Speaker 1: episode on June third, and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: in the five star ratings. We love them, folks. X

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Speaker 1: ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show is

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Speaker 1: produced by Chris Lord and Soul Rubin. The show is

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Speaker 1: executive produced by myself and Sandy Rhard are editing and

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Speaker 1: sound designers by Vascilla's Fatopoulos. Dilon Villanueva and Matt Group

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Speaker 1: provide video production support. Alex Rella for Handle social media.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Brian Vasquez for theme music. See you next time,

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Speaker 1: Bye by