WEBVTT - #880 Packers Unscripted: That’s a wrap

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to this season ending edition of Packers

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<v Speaker 1>Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined

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<v Speaker 1>as always by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you hear from our studios at lambeau Field, and

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<v Speaker 1>this will be our last episode of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five season. We're gonna wrap it up here and take

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<v Speaker 1>a break so Wes and I can kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the office here and there over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple months. I'm sure we'll be back, you know, sometime

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<v Speaker 1>before the Draft, leading into all the excitement that will

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<v Speaker 1>surround that. But Wes, before I get into some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of season ending topics, i'd like to run past you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to ask if there was anything because we

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<v Speaker 1>covered a lot of ground in our last episode, anything

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<v Speaker 1>from the game, from the Final Locker Room interviews on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that we didn't get to on our last show

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to touch on.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved you ask me this because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The Final Locker Room is always sort of the epitaph

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<v Speaker 2>right to the season, and a lot of times it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up just being a couple guys that maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>thought you're going to talk to. Maybe you didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to talk to and I'd only I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to not use the word stragglers here in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are traversing the locker room on that day.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a hit or misproposition. Yeah, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>have said this to each other, We've said this to

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much every coworker that was willing to listen. I

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<v Speaker 2>was blown away by the Packers' final locker room on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday morning. That was the most people that have ever spoken,

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<v Speaker 2>That is the most amount of players who were injured,

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<v Speaker 2>that provided clarity on their situations and what they're dealing with,

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<v Speaker 2>what they dealt with, what the offseason is going to

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<v Speaker 2>look like for them. There was a time about midway

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<v Speaker 2>through that locker room where I was I was perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>content with Zach Tom speaking, Nate Hobbs speaking, and I thought, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>these will be some of the stories we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this week. But then in came Micah Parsons, In came

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Wyatt, In came Tucker Craft, and in Wyatt's case

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<v Speaker 2>and in parsons case, both of these guys crutches. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the bikes that you use to keep how you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wad off your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really inspired by those guys doing that because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have to do that. There's been so many

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<v Speaker 2>times where guys suffer season ending injuries, Mike and we

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<v Speaker 2>won't talk to them again, maybe during the off season program,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly in some cases training camp. Right, none of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys had to speak to the media on Monday, but

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<v Speaker 2>they felt it necessary, and the message that specifically Micah

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<v Speaker 2>Parsons and Tucker Craft drove home, I feel was really

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<v Speaker 2>important because, yeah, you hope everything gets settled. At the

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<v Speaker 2>time in which we're taping this, we still don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's exactly happening with the head coach position, the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the coaching staff, what the moves are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be for the paswers here moving forward. But Kraft talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in addition to the importance that Matt Lafleur has

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<v Speaker 2>and the job he's done here in Green Bay, but

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<v Speaker 2>also just the expectations he has for himself in this

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<v Speaker 2>football team. Micah Parson's talking about how he has just

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<v Speaker 2>attacked his rehab here in these opening weeks and the

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<v Speaker 2>motivation that he feels now wanting to be a leader

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<v Speaker 2>for this football team, wanting to be the player that

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers brought him in to be in, the player

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<v Speaker 2>that the city of Green Bay and the surrounding communities

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<v Speaker 2>have embraced him. As that was, I felt like that

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<v Speaker 2>final locker room sent a message. It sent a message

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<v Speaker 2>of hope, It sent a message of potential and also

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling everyone always talks about, Oh, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>move on and you don't want it to be like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to do better next year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to use this to feel meat. There was almost

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more vigor. I feel like within that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I used the word. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I used it on our last show, and I used

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<v Speaker 1>it in what I wrote. The word that I came

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<v Speaker 1>out of that final locker room with was resolve, because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just the as you said, It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of the the cliched overused lines of you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna use this to motivate me. Et Cetera said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that was all there. And the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who said that, I mean, are you know, are certainly genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has their own personalities, but there was a different

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<v Speaker 1>feel to that in you know, and I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>finding the right words for it right now, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say it. It was sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>message from that locker room was, Yeah, this sucks, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything's gonna be okay. That's that's really what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody was happy with how the season ended.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was trying to, you know, to make that look

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<v Speaker 1>or feel any better than it was. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>as looking to the future, it's like, every everything's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be all right like this, you know, things things will

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<v Speaker 1>be okay here and uh and yeah, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there's going to be some some determination, some resolve

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<v Speaker 1>to to not be in that situation again and to

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<v Speaker 1>not be talking about a playoff game that you have

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<v Speaker 1>in your grasp that gets away, and then that's how

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<v Speaker 1>the season ends. So, as you said, at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that we're taping this, there hasn't really been any updates

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the coaching thing. All we know is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Packers are still working on a contract with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafleur, Jeff Hafley is out interviewing for jobs. We

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<v Speaker 1>even heard that DeMarcus Covington the defensive line coach has

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<v Speaker 1>been requested by the Cowboys for their defensive coordinator opening

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<v Speaker 1>after they moved on for Matt Eberflus.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still a lot going on, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into all that because by the time this

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<v Speaker 1>actually posts and some people are listening to it watching

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<v Speaker 1>to it, all the news could potentially change. I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a handful of questions for you, though, that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw at you, as far as this being our

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<v Speaker 1>season ending episode, and you can take this first one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take it in any direction you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is what was your favorite moment from

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<v Speaker 1>the two season.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything surrounding the Detroit Lions game. It's probably also the

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<v Speaker 2>first time my glasses have ever been off on after

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<v Speaker 2>unscripted in ten seasons. I couldn't handle it anymore. Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>was so much fun. There were so many layers to

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<v Speaker 2>that game. Micah Parsons two and a half sacks, he

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<v Speaker 2>gets over the twelve sack mark on the season, so

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<v Speaker 2>that actually gave him that record of since nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two when it became an official statistic, the first player

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<v Speaker 2>in NFL history forty years over forty years of statistics.

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<v Speaker 2>First guy to have twelve plus sacks in each of

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<v Speaker 2>his first five seasons kind of laid the foundation for

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<v Speaker 2>that All Pro year.

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<v Speaker 3>But then the way that Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved Dontavian Wicks, the way that guys played down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I felt that energy inside Ford Field. How

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<v Speaker 2>difficult it has become to play in Detroit, specifically on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 2>a day that's always been the Lions holiday. But now

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the fifteen wins, coming off the NFC Championship appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>they're on a different level. Now, those fans are energized

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<v Speaker 2>to a different level.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hell's Bells on third down hits a little different

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<v Speaker 1>in that building than it did a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't It.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure does, especially in the second half of competitive football games.

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<v Speaker 2>So I felt like that was was amazing. You really

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<v Speaker 2>could pick out any moment from Micah Parsons season, even

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<v Speaker 2>the chase down sack of Jared Goff in the opener

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<v Speaker 2>against Detroit was a big moment. But I think when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about the Packers making the playoffs, that was

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<v Speaker 2>such an important day on Thanksgiving and for green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>to take the power back, and yes, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a major rivalry now with Chicago would not surprise

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<v Speaker 2>me at all if they open against the Bears in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. But I felt like the Packers being

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<v Speaker 2>able to avenge their recent losses to Detroit, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to win there and also win in the opener that

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately was what kind of set the tone for Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are those are some good choices for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of odd, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>gave maybe the opportunity to take it anyway, any which

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<v Speaker 1>way you wanted to. My favorite moment of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>of the season was turning on my phone after the

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<v Speaker 1>flight I was on landed in Washington, d C. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking my daughter on a grad school perspective visit.

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<v Speaker 1>Turning my phone back on and seeing that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are traded for Micah Parsons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's my least favorite moment because.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you were you were left here by your

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<v Speaker 1>lonesome to deal with it because I was gone for

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<v Speaker 1>a few days. But but one, there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>excitement about it, obviously, But the other thing is too

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<v Speaker 1>is it just took me back to and for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know the story, there is a in my

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seasons of covering this team. There is a long

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<v Speaker 1>list of major, major things that have happened when I

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<v Speaker 1>have been out of the office, when I've been out

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<v Speaker 1>of town, on vacation, whatever the case might be, and

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<v Speaker 1>all it Actually it goes back to the summer of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight when I was at cub Scout

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<v Speaker 1>camp with my son and a message while I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>in a big field playing Capture the Flag with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of cub Scouts and a message comes on my BlackBerry,

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<v Speaker 1>I might add, which is what we had back then,

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<v Speaker 1>that Brett Favre had decided to apply for reinstatement with

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<v Speaker 1>the Commissioner's Office and come out of retirement, which, of

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<v Speaker 1>course then just you know, set off everything. So this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing of me always being gone when something big happens,

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<v Speaker 1>it started then. And it includes when the Packers signed

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Peppers in twenty fourteen and I was in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they traded DeVante Adams in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and I was out of town, and there are a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of other things in between. But anyway, like

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<v Speaker 1>that moment just brought me back to oh yeah, here

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<v Speaker 1>it is Packers are doing something huge and I'm not there.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to be out of town again.

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<v Speaker 2>The weird thing about the Parsons, and obviously I say

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<v Speaker 2>this in Jess, I hope that doesn't get taken out

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<v Speaker 2>of context in terms of it was very exciting to

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<v Speaker 2>get Micah Parsons, although it was you know, was tough

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<v Speaker 2>that the lost Kenny in that trade.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was funny about the Parsons One that I dude,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna go down as an all timer because Davante

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<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of rumblings to that point that

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<v Speaker 2>there might be a trade. You know, they're tagging them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, possibly moving them. Maybe he wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Raiders, maybe he wants to go closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the West Coast. Obviously reunite with Derek Carr. And

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<v Speaker 2>while there were some rumblings about Micah, none of it

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<v Speaker 2>felt real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember doing an interview with Matt Rammage a week

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<v Speaker 2>before the trade actually happened, and I'm like, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that the Packers didn't want him. They obviously want him.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants him, But how the Dallas Cowboys would let

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<v Speaker 2>him go a guy that he's not thirty two, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have his best years beyond. The guy's twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>years old. He hasn't even signed his second contract yet. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's on this Hall of Fame trajectory? Are the Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys really going to let him out of their grasp?

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't like there was a public bidding war.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the Packers might be interested. And the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have traded for Micah Parsons. Yeah, And while you were

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<v Speaker 2>getting off the plane, I'm sitting there on the club

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<v Speaker 2>level of lambeau Field at a Mark Murphy Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame press conference, and I will never forget that moment

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<v Speaker 2>where Market's done with his just opening statement and John

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<v Speaker 2>Miller from WGBA is behind me and goes, Mark, we

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<v Speaker 2>just received word here that the Packers have traded for

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<v Speaker 2>Micah Parsons. You know basically what your reaction is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting here staring at Mark, and I hear

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<v Speaker 2>John's voice in the back of my head, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, this is not real, this is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mark gave a good answer about, well, you know,

0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.520
<v Speaker 2>that's not my decision anymore, that's other people's, But that

0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.839
<v Speaker 2>that whole weekend was a fever dream. But I'll bring

0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it all around by saying this, Parsons ends up coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>He has an amazing press conference with everybody, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that also up until the last.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just the the amount of discourse we had

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<v Speaker 2>with him. Yeah, and for him to be the player

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<v Speaker 2>that he ended up being for the Packers the season.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about the reasons for a bright spot here,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are three staples. Honestly, I think there

0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.680
<v Speaker 2>are three staples right now with this football team, with

0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love becoming the player that he's become, Micah Parsons

0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.960
<v Speaker 2>looks like one of, if not the best defensive all

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<v Speaker 2>around football player right now. And then, honestly, I really

0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.960
<v Speaker 2>do throw Tucker Craft into that. I wrote about an

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<v Speaker 2>insider Inbox today, the treck that he was on. He's

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<v Speaker 2>on pace for a thousand yard season, double digit touchdowns.

0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.680
<v Speaker 2>He was bringing a dimension of this Packers offense that

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never seen before. I didn't cover, you know, Paul Kaufman,

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<v Speaker 2>so like to have all these type of things come

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<v Speaker 2>together a very solid foundation for the green Bait Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I enjoyed just getting to know Micah Parsons a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit as a player and a person over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the twelve plus thirteen games. However many it

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<v Speaker 1>was that he ended up playing, and I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to more years with him in Green Bay. Question number two,

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<v Speaker 1>play of the year in your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's so many good ones here to pick from.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go first if you want to think a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, Yeah, why don't you? Okay, had I had

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<v Speaker 1>two options here. One is right out of what you

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<v Speaker 1>said with regard to my last question Detroit on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>Dontavian Wicks catching that fourth down pass with his shoe

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<v Speaker 1>coming off and the whole thing to seal that game

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit. I know both you and I were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>up there in the press box at Ford Field not

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<v Speaker 1>even thinking the Packers were actually going to snap the

0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>ball that it was just kind of it was kind

0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of a ruse. And and okay, if they don't get

0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.440
<v Speaker 1>him to, you know, jump off sides, you take the

0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.480
<v Speaker 1>delay game, you punt the ball and and the defense

0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is gonna have to close it out. And then they

0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.200
<v Speaker 1>snapped the ball, and then Love gave Wix a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to make the play one on one against Brian branch

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<v Speaker 1>and he loses his shoe when he jumps up and

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<v Speaker 1>he makes the catch, and it was like, oh my gosh,

0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they just won the game. Like it was boom, like

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<v Speaker 1>there the game was over. So that's one. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one for me is Keishawn Nixon's interception to seal the

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<v Speaker 1>win against the Bears at lambeau Field. I never would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought in a million years that that was the

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<v Speaker 1>last victory we were going to write about and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on the season, but that was a big moment

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<v Speaker 1>and it put the Packers in first place in the

0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.160
<v Speaker 1>NFC North and things were pointed in a certain direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the following week is obviously when Michael Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>went down with the injury and then everything changed for

0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season. But those are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of my list.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, those are good picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty much torn between two, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just sticking on offensive side of the football.

0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.800
<v Speaker 3>The Tucker Craft fifty.

0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Nine yard touchdown is always going to kind of stick

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<v Speaker 2>out to me a little bit, just because he was rumbling, bumbling,

0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 2>stumbling to everybody, and I thought it really demonstrated just

0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.520
<v Speaker 2>the type of player he is and when he is

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 2>in the open field. How difficult he is the tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's almost like a running back out there, right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just like he catches the ball and he goes down.

0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy's going to make a play happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I wish I honestly, I would love to say

0:14:59.920 --> 0:15:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that the Romeo Dobbs one handed catch against Chicago, because

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<v Speaker 2>that was just I don't I still this day, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, days later, I don't know how rome caught that.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously the phenomenal catch game.

0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And then the other one is just the leaping Christian

0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Watson catch in New York. That Christian Watson, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit one in the yeah, for the go ahead touchdown and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's double covered. He's six foot four and he's using

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<v Speaker 2>every single inch of his body to make that catch.

0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Christian Watson. The ultimate tragedy of the twenty

0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty five Packer season is for the other than what

0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.200
<v Speaker 2>two quarters we did not get to see Christian Watson

0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and Tucker Craft on the field together. Yep, Tucker was

0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.840
<v Speaker 2>there the first eight, Christian was there for the last nine,

0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and it just or last ten and it just you

0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:45.960
<v Speaker 2>know you would have loved to see them all together.

0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:50.840
<v Speaker 2>But in New York Wild game, you know, Jordan JAMS's

0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.600
<v Speaker 2>shoulder and you know Malik does some crazy stuff, I mean,

0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.200
<v Speaker 2>just weird stuff happened all over it and it ends

0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.840
<v Speaker 2>up being a down to the wire football game with

0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the team that ultimately ended up, you know, being right

0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.640
<v Speaker 2>up at the top here for the number one pick.

0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.320
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, because Jameis Winston kept throwing the ball to

0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the Packers and the defenders couldn't catch it until Evan

0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Williams finally caught the one at the end in the

0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.480
<v Speaker 1>end zone to get the I N T for the win.

0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.200
<v Speaker 2>In Green Bay finally ended up seeing the door. But

0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the Christian Watson one. I just think, when I think

0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of the most beautiful plays, if that if that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like the litmus test I use for my

0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.240
<v Speaker 2>favorite play of the year. That was just that's something

0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you'd put on a poster, the way that that play unfolding.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I got two more for you, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>one word to describe this season when you reflect on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a good one, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can go first again because I'm the one

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<v Speaker 1>who got to prepare for this and I'm throwing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>putting you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you gave me, you gave me some breath

0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.280
<v Speaker 2>on the last one. I'm trying to think of something

0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that's not overly emotional but also somewhat honest, well, definitely honest,

0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.120
<v Speaker 2>but somewhat apropos of where things were. I think the

0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 2>word I would use is close in both variants of

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.359
<v Speaker 2>the word right, where they were so close in so

0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.760
<v Speaker 2>many instances to being I think the team that we

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.920
<v Speaker 2>all were talking about the first two weeks of the

0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>season right, and even with all the injuries that they

0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.960
<v Speaker 2>dealt with, the Packers still didn't. With a few exceptions,

0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe two exceptions where they really truly just got beat.

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't those type of performances. Everything was close. And

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously the finish piece comes back to that. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>the buzzword all week long, need to finish more. I

0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 2>somewhat laugh at it because the conversation down in Chicago

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.040
<v Speaker 2>all week is they need to start faster, and Green

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Bay is talking about need to finish more. But ultimately,

0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 2>if you have those two things, it is going to

0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.200
<v Speaker 2>come back to how do you finish football games? And

0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 2>for the Packers to be as good as they were

0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.560
<v Speaker 2>this season, as talented they were, and Mike the trade happens,

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and obviously he goes down, Craft goes down. Why it

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.720
<v Speaker 2>goes down, Elton goes down. All these guys go out

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.120
<v Speaker 2>with some pretty big injuries. It just never quite ended

0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 2>up being the season I think all of us thought

0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 2>that it could be.

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 3>And this is what happens.

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 2>This is how in the National Football League when there's

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty one teams and thirty two teams. Excuse me, there's

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that much parody, but there's thirty one that are going

0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.080
<v Speaker 2>to ultimately be dissatisfied at the end of the season.

0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.439
<v Speaker 2>It's in those narrow margins. And there's eight teams at

0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the time in which we're taping this that still have

0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.920
<v Speaker 2>a shot at it, and the Packers are on the

0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.440
<v Speaker 2>other side of the twenty four. Yeah.

0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.679
<v Speaker 1>And my word is it's similar to yours. But the

0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Speaker 1>word that keeps coming to mind for me is the

0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>word tease. And I mean that both there's a negative

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.680
<v Speaker 1>connotation and a positive connotation to it. On the kind

0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of the negative side of things, it's that we saw

0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.760
<v Speaker 1>so many moments of how good this Packers team could

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.560
<v Speaker 1>be whether you're talking, you know, having a nine point

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.199
<v Speaker 1>lead in the third quarter against the team that is

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.199
<v Speaker 1>sitting as the number one seed in the AFC, and

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.119
<v Speaker 1>how well the pass were playing in that game up

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.720
<v Speaker 1>until that point on the road, tough place to play,

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>really good team, one of the best teams in the league.

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>And you throw in the performance in Detroit on Thanksgiving,

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the performance on the road at Pittsburgh under the lights,

0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, a primetime game, and obviously the way the

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Packers for large stretches of both of those games in

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Chicago played so well and dominated the NFC North Champs.

0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>But the inability to finish off enough of those games

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and to put themselves in the position where we all

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 1>felt they should have been it just it, you know,

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it just it felt like it felt like a tease. Now,

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the positive connotation of that is, I think it also teases,

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>going back to our earlier conversation in this very episode,

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.919
<v Speaker 1>it also teases that there's a lot of pretty good

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff in place for this team moving forward and that that, yeah,

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 1>there are gonna be some changes in this and that

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, nothing is ever the same, but everything's going

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to be all right, and uh, and this team is

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>going to come back and be in a pretty good

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 1>spot and and you know, some of these things that

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we saw in twenty twenty five, I think we're going

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to see some of the get that again in twenty

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:19.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, and can the Packers go from being close

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to being there to being where they want to be.

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's, uh, that's sort of how I look at

0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it if I were to, you know, try to encapsulate

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it in one word.

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like how you laid that out, Mike, and

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you obviously had to edit my inbox. And one of

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.919
<v Speaker 2>the things I raised in that is, I think one

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.879
<v Speaker 2>of the hardest parts to swallow about the Packers, you know,

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.640
<v Speaker 2>number seven seed knockoff, you know, Dallas, number seven seed

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.639
<v Speaker 2>lose to Philly, Number seven seed lose to Chicago is

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the reason the Green Bay was even

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>in that conversation to begin with was the fact that

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that twenty two draft class, in those in the twenty

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.919
<v Speaker 2>three draft class just completely shot jet fuel into whatever

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 2>you want to call rebuild or whatever, reloading after the

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers era.

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>The whole transition, the.

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Whole transition, and you don't get draft classes where you

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.919
<v Speaker 2>find three starting offensive linemen in the same class actually

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 2>last year. This also shows you just how different this

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.480
<v Speaker 2>season was. Last year was the first time since what

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the merger, I believe it was that the Packers had

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 2>an offensive line that consisted of three guys who started

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>every game that were all from the same class. That

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>had never happened before with Rashid Walker, with Zach tom In,

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 2>with Sean Ryan. This year, different story. Romeo Dobbs after

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the game, we're talking to him and very you know,

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>reflecting on what he'd been through and the fact that

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>he is an unrestricted free agent. This could be the

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>end for him in Green Bay as he gets a

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>new opportunity and gets a chance to finally you don't

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 2>get that big paycheck everybody talks about. And he's a

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 2>kid from la that you know, played at Nevada that

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 2>never thought he'd end up in Green Bay and then

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 2>he ended up being a contributor for four seasons. Here

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>and Christian Watson reflecting on how the time they spent

0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 2>together at the combine, you know, at the Senior and

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that group was so tight and one of the tragedies

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of it is that they weren't able to take that

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the entire group wasn't able to take the next step.

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Watson will get a chance, maybe some other guys will

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 2>get the opportunity z act Tom obviously, but the whole

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 2>group that really contributed to Green Bay being in the conversation,

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>being an eleven win team again, not being able to

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>get to the NFC Title Game, not being able to

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 2>get to Super Bowl again. So it'd be very interesting

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to see now next year, with this twenty three draft

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<v Speaker 2>class and its final year together, so many great players

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>out of that class, seeing if they can finally launch

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<v Speaker 2>it forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. Last one for you? Favorite story you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Season?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Good one. That's a really good one. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season, Michael? Or is it twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Any any at any point? At any point?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Baron Surrel one then, because I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't get any better than that in sports. Is

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>such a unique story you and I. You could do

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<v Speaker 2>this for another two twenty five years. I'm sure you

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>want to. I could do this for another ten. I'm

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 2>not going to write another story like that. I don't

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 2>think there'll be another story like that. The fact that

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>this young man from Texas comes up here at the

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>draft just decides, Hey, you know what, I want to

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 2>be there, And then that clip of Brian Goodikun's drafting

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>him being like, wait, he's here when he comes out

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 2>on the stage.

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then getting a chance to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know his mom, you know, Selena, and just talking to

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>some of these people that know him so well, unbelievable

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>to see him. And then at the end of the

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 2>year gets some opportunities and really take advantage of them.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Baron strel is gonna be a real player

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 2>for this defense. So learning his life story and who

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>he's all about, it made it so much more clear

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>how this guy ended up in Green Bay, not only

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 2>literally but figuratively too, you know, him and his family

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 2>coming up here and being a part of the draft

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>process and waiting until day three and the fourth round

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to get taken made a memory for himself. And now

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 2>it looks like for the Packers have an edge rusher

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>here to really develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For me again, I've got a couple. So I

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>cheat because I give multiple answers. As far as as

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>far as game coverage, my favorite story as most of

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the regulars to our website, No, after every game I

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>write the game recap which is the five takeaways from

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the game, and then I write Rapid Reaction, which is

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>sort of like a column or an editorial type of

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>thing on just what I'm feeling like and what I'm hearing,

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, processing after a game. And the rapid Reaction

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that I wrote after the Thanksgiving game in Detroit was

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>my favorite one of the entire season, because not only

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>is it okay, We're on the bus and on the

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>plane and I'm looking forward to getting a home and

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be this big Thanksgiving meal that my

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>family is prepared and they're waiting for me to get

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>home and all that, and that was all really exciting.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But to be able to focus that entire column on

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the Packers were converting these fourth downs, they were stopping

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell on his fourth downs, and just how you know,

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>it was this whole flip of the script the Tide

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the previous games, the previous year's games against Detroit,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>when those things would go the other way. And how

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking back to how the clutch fourth down completion to

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Craft and Arizona kind of set the stage for

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>these big fourth downs in Detroit, but he didn't have

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Craft in Detroit, So it was Romeo Dobbs and

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>it was Dontavian Wicks and and so that one was

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>just all the circumstances surrounding it and the fact that

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>it was Detroit and Dan Campbell and the defense was

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>stopping them on fourth downs. That was a really fun

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>one to write. And then the other one was actually

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>one that I wrote very much towards the end of

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>the season, and it was kind of the farewell and

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>the tribute to doctor McKenzie, doctor Pat McKenzie, who is

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>officially retiring. He had already shifted into kind of a

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>consultant role as the Packers are making a transition to

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>doctor Michael Ryan. He will be the new full time

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>team physician now for the Packers. But I got a

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>chance to sit down and I have obviously Doc mackenzie

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 1>has has been here almost twice as long as I have,

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>so I I have known him since kind of like

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the day I got here, and he's been here the

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>entire time. And for this story that I wrote, I

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to sit down for about a half

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>an hour and talk to him just about his career

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and how, you know, how did he establish trust amongst

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the players and the agents, and and and the coaches,

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>and how did he navigate all these relationships and and

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>do his job? And I was absolutely just fascinated, blown

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>away by everything that went into a guy who's whose

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>reputation precedes him, you know, not only just in the

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay medical community, but the NFL medical community at large.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And I could have written five thousand words on Doc mackenzie,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>and I condensed it down to about.

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 3>A thousand just it was me.

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have just so that it would be

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>digestible for the readership out there. But that one, that

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>one definitely was is a memorable one that I'll take

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>with me for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, it was a great piece and obviously getting

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>a just not even just Doc's perspective on it, but

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>also you know with Brian Ingele and some of his comments.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Obviously Aaron and Rogers and you know what their relationship

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 2>was like, they amount of trust that Aaron had in him.

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>They navigated those two collar bones together, Yeah, which was

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 2>not easy. Do you remember remember that conversation thirteen seventeen

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>was something different because Packers announced right away Rogers broke

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>his collar bone. He may miss the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see. Yeah, But the.

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<v Speaker 2>First time it was about a two and a half

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>month stretch of just like every single week, we're asking.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I was still at the newspaper at the time, pres Cozette,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and we're asking, Okay, what's the update and is there

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be another scan We're and I'm learning about ink

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>die and how that goes into your bones and shows

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>where the stress is or where the fractures are. And

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>kudos the mackenzie man. Rogers has talked about this numerous

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>times after the fact. He wanted to make sure that

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Aaron was right. First. If they win, they win, and

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 2>if he gets back, he gets back. But he had

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that there wasn't going to be a

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 2>risk there for him. And obviously airing on the high

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>side of caution is not easy. But when you have

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>principles that you're guided by, I think it shows that.

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when when a doctor, when a doctor looks at

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.479
<v Speaker 1>when a team doctor looks at a player as a

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>patient and not a player, you know, then you make

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the right decision for the patient. And that's how That's

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>how Doc McKenzie went about it. As frustrating as that

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>might be sometimes to the player, to the coaches because

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>they want the guy wants to get out there. The

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>coaches want their guy out there. But to Doc McKenzie,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just a player on the team, it was

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a patient. He was going to make sure that that

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>patient was taken care of and was not going to

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>be at any undue risk. But anyway, a tremendous career

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>from Doc McKenzie and attribute an a farewell there. If

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<v Speaker 1>last thing before we go divisional playoff weekend in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll rattle off all four matchups here to you. On Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Buffalo at n for San Francisco at Seattle.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>On Sunday, Houston at New England, the La Rams at

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears. You just tell me what you want

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, what you think with regard to any

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of these matchups, or if you want to throw out

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>any predictions. I'm open to those two.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's funny. I have a rooting interest. I feel

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>like in all, well, three of the games, four of them.

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Kind of sort of a stretch. This is Marcedes Lewis's

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>last season twenty years.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>He's out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think still forty one. I think he turns forty two. Yeah,

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I think he's forty two in may so. Sadies I

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>think presently is on the practice squad for the Denver Broncos.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>But probably more than anybody, I'm pulling for the Broncos

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way. Okay, not the easiest thing

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to say, considering some of the things about the Broncos team,

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.239
<v Speaker 2>but I love Sadies. I would love nothing more than

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to see him get a chance to be in a

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, to win a ring. That would be an ultimate,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>ultimate ending to a career that I don't think we'll

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>ever see again.

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 3>In the National Football League, the.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>New England Patriots, they're basically their personnels are general manager,

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever title you use is Elliott Wolf, the you know,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the son of Ron Wolf, also a guy that you

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and I worked with here. I love the fact that

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he turned them around, helped turn them around as quickly

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>as they did. They obviously knocked the higher out of

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the park this year with Mike vrabel. I have nothing

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>against Houston, you know, fine football team, but it'd be

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>cool also to see New England with Elliott at the.

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Helm take control.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>DeVante adams comments this week, not only do they reflect

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>his feelings on Green Bay. You know, once a packer,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>always a packer, but this is there is a reason

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>why DeVante Adams won our Stand Up Guy Award three times,

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>something that nobody else has done yet in Green Bay.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>It's the way he carries himself. It's the professional that

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>he is on the field, and just the dude as

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a person. And yeah, people are going to talk about

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the Bears and Ben Jonson nerves. I don't care about

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>any of that. I just want to see DeVante make

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl yep. And so I think for me personally,

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the team on the NFC side of things I'm rooting

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>for this weekend. Rooting for the rest of the way

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>is the Los Angeles Rams to see Tay and Mercedes

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>over on the AFC side of things, if those two,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>if it could be a Denver LA Super Bowl, I'd

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>be pleased. Pie And then lastly, Packer fans will probably

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>hate me for this, but I wouldn't mind seeing Kyle

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Shanahan also get over the top here. This is a

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>guy that has been an innovator in the National Football League.

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>You look at his tree, It's like none other, even

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the teams that have won Super Bowl. So nobody has

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a tree like Kyle Shanahan right now in the NFL

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>so basically there's four games. I have four rooting interests

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>in all those games. But if you ask me right

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>now weeks out, if Denver or Los Angeles walked away

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>with the Super Bowl trophy, I'd be Lombardi Trophy.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I'd be happy.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in with you on DeVante Adams, for sure.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's not I think that's an obvious one,

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and not just because the Rams are playing the Bears

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and I have absolutely no interest in seeing the Bears

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>get any further this season. I do think I was

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, and this is nothing against Houston, who

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>has a tremendous defense and New England, who I couldn't

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 1>be more impressed with Drake May at quarterback as a

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>young rising star in this league and what's going on there.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But I just have a feeling that the winner of

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Denver game is going to the Super Bowl.

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think if Denver is able to beat if

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Denver is able to win that game, and then they'll

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be hosting the AFC Championship. We had talked about how

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Denver has its flaws, but playing at home, that's going

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a very tough place for anybody to come

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in and beat them, and it's going to be tough

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>for Buffalo to do it on Saturday. But I also

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like with Josh Allen getting his first road playoff

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>victory last week in Jacksonville, now he's on the road

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and you would be on the road again if they

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>were to beat the Broncos, they'd be going on the

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>road in the AFC Championship. But if Josh Allen gets

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<v Speaker 1>past this one on and has back to back road

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>wins in the playoffs under his belt, I think he

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>goes in. He could go into either Houston or New

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>England and and win and get there. And it's interesting because,

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, huge opportunity for Alan when Lamar Jackson, Patrick

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes and Joe Burrow are all out of the playoffs

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and not in this thing. And some people are going

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know that, some people are going to

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>say that that would that would taint it somehow if

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Alan is able to get there. But just remember in

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the regular season he beat all three of those quarterbacks.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that he won all three of those

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>games is part of the reason they weren't in the

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>playoffs to challenge him. Right now, So I have. I

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of affinity for Buffalo, not only having

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>watched them in my college years lose the four consecutive

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls and and you know, and what that fan

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>base went through. But then also my son went to

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>graduate school out in Buffalo, and so they've sort of

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>become my second, like adopted team, and I enjoy I

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>enjoy cheering for Josh. He's a fun player to watch

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'll definitely be pulling for him in the NFC.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I think the San Francisco Seattle game is I think

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a little more competitive than it

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>was a couple of weeks ago. But I'm telling you,

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the Niners kind of got screwed here because they are

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>playing on a short week for like the third time

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in their last four games. They ended the regular season

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>with back to back short weeks where they had to

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>go from the Monday night against Indy to then the

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Sunday game against the Bears, and then they went from

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>the Sunday game against the Bears to the Saturday game

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>against the Seahawks, and then now here they are in

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the second round of the playoffs, and they got stuck

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with a short week again where Sunday night, they're flying

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.280
<v Speaker 1>back home from Philadelphia, all the way across the country,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and then they get stuck on Saturday night. So on

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Friday they're hopping on a plane again to go up

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to Seattle and play their division route for a third time.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I think this is a just a huge challenge, a

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>huge task for the forty nine ers, and the fact

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that now, amongst all their other injuries, they don't have

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>George Kittle, So I think things definitely lean towards Seattle.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But man, if Kyle Shanahan, if they're able to pull

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>this one off, there's definitely no stopping them. Like if

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco wins this game, they're going back to the

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, and Shanahan's going to get a chance. It

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>does going to get a chance to win one.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>It feels kind of like if Green Bay would knock

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>off Atlanta here right in twenty ten. Yeah, Like it

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>feels like that type of game. If you can find

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 2>an answer for that defense after you struggled against it

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago, Yeah, be a be a big difference.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>How far it'd be, by the way, not to jump over you,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 2>but how funny it would be By the way, if

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Denver actually does go to the Super Bowl, like you say,

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>ten years after the fact that their defense drove them there. Yeah, right,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 2>And I would say that bo Nicks has been more

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>effective than what Peyton Manning and brock Osweiler were in

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen. Yeah, but he's the compliment to what they're

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>doing defensively, right, what they're doing offensively compliments how like

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>much they've had everybody in a stranglehold defensively. Yeah, if

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 2>they would go back with this really high octane pass

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>rush and everything they do, that that would be very

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>apropos ten years after the fact that they kind of

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>rode that.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.280
<v Speaker 3>To a Super Bowl fifty title.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it's a It's some it's some fascinating matchups,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and we may in both instances in both conferences. And

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting considering that the Packers season ended in a

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Round three against a division rival. We I mean, we

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>could get Buffalo, New England. That would be a Round

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>three for the AFC East. And if the Rams the

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Rams beat the Bears, no matter who wins the other game,

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you're getting a Round three of the of the NFC West.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, hats off to the NFC West. They

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>got three teams in the playoffs and they're three of

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the last four standing in the NFC. That those those

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.760
<v Speaker 1>are some real quality clubs and they've and they've proven

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it regardless of what happens.

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Is Yeah, and Couda's of them too. I mean they

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>get beat up. They're beating up on each other, especially

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>down the stretch in December. And then you had both,

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, the forty nine ers and the Rams come

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 2>out on top on road games in the first round

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of the playoffs and the wildcard round, and see if

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>they keep riding that wave of momentum.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Now it was Super.

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Bowl, absolutely well, it should be a fun weekend of football,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>even though the Packers are not in it. I'm gonna

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>sit back and enjoy watching it. Instead of a laptop

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>in front of me, I'm gonna have some beers in

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>front of me.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 3>They go, I might have a brisk iced tea. We'll see. Uh.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Curtain call for the studio too, BROV.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, I forgot all about that yet.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable job that our broadcast apartment. Craig Schielbauer, Adam Holbeheinrich,

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 2>their crew, Mike Vanderschnik got a rest his soul. All

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 2>those guys had their fingerprints over this place. This is

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a fun place to do the podcast all those years.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has been a lot of fun. We will

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 1>be moving it's actually geographically not that far from here

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>in the building, but we will be moving to a

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>new studio for next season. We're gonna have a whole different,

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>whole new podcast set up and everything. Kind of excited

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to see what that's going to look like. But yeah,

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>this is uh, this is it for this one with

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>our two little round tables and the big.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Remember when we behind us, Remember when we started this

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>whole thing with.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 3>That Yeah, what is this table?

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>This is season ten?

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Is pas unscripted? We're wrapping up season ten here.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>In our first uh what was it the first four

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 2>seasons we're in the corner with that metal table. You

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>and I are basically shoulder to shoulder, breathing a lot

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of the same air. And then they stretched us out

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit here, and slowly but surely we're making progress.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>We're looking more and more professional. It's only taken ten

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:32.919
<v Speaker 2>years to get us there.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now we're gonna have a whole new look for

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>for season eleven. But you'll have that to look forward to.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>And for now, we have to call it a wrap

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>on this edition and this season of Packers Unscripted. Be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to continue. We continue following all of our coverage

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of the team on Packers dot com. And I would

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just like to send a huge thank you. I know

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I say at the end of every episode, thank you

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>for tuning in everybody, but sincerely, thank you for tuning

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.439
<v Speaker 1>in everybody, because we wouldn't do this if we didn't

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>have an audience or a paycheck that too, and we

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>really do appreciate everybody who tunes in and sends us comments.

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0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.040
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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next time.