1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm making good progress. You know, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting more. I'm getting more used to hearing the 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: calls and repeating them and you know, breaking them up 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: to where everyone's understanding it and really being able to 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: direct guys. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented by t I 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Osher, Ashlyn Sullivan 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: and j P. Shagwan pretended by t I A A 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Bank starts right now. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters. Today is Monday. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: May see then. Thank you for checking out the Official 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Jaguars Podcast Network of free subscription on Apple, Live Tunes, Spotify, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: or wherever you download your podcast. Give us a comment 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: and a five star rating. J P Shadrick John Oser 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: has his phone ring happening this morning. That's the alarm 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: for one day after we start. That's Brian Sexton, Ashland 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Sullivan here and let's just get right into it with 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: our big things this week. Ashlyn kick us off. My 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: big thing is we are coming off Cookie Mini Camp 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: weekend and we were out there Saturday for practice. And 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a bold statement because it 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: was just rookie mini camp and football pajamas and all 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: of that. But that was the most efficient and well 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: organized practice I have seen since starting here with the 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars in two thousand seventeen. They had an m C 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: in between periods telling them exactly where they were going. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: There was ten seconds left in the water break, there 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: was zero time wasted. Lenn's dazzled. I was like, this 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: is legit. I like my cat. I mean, part of 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: that is, I think the new regime and the coaching 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: staff and all that, but new players and everything was 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: so new this weekend. I wonder if that will even 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: happen during veteran camp, all the MC stuff, because you know, 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: at that point everybody will know where they're going. Well, 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I had heard from somebody that they had been out 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: and rehearsed it before, you know, with all the staff, 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: because there had been so many people who never been 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: out on the field essentially, and this is a new 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: staff together and they needed to learn how they worked 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: and where they worked. And so it makes sense, especially 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: with those rookies, that you would get them into the field. 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: And that's what rookie camp is about. Here's what we do, 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: when we do it, when we move, how we move, 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: what we do next? Um so it was efficient. I 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that I hadn't seen that before, back in 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: the early days when Tom Coughlin had so I hit 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: a horn and cards and it was different but highly 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: structured organized. I would say it's much more hightened, much 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: more structured organized than it has been in a long time. Absolutely, 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: and much more I thought hands on coaching as well. 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Just they were very into it and every single drill 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: great John Uh. I thought it was a mini camp practice. 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was definitely up tempo, it was definitely 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: fast uh to me. The eight teen players uh made 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: me not pay that much attention to the details of it, 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: But I did like the m C like Slen did. 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if they don't do that, just 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: because it feels like that's the sort of I'm surprised 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: of Verdenmire has it in this practice and doesn't continue 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: with it, just in terms of I think it gets 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: players minds, Okay, that's the ten second mark. I got 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: get ready for the next thing. So I kind of 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: thought that was cool because I like shiny objects to 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: and you don't have coaches yelling whatever, you know, there's 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: a less of that, at least in the early stages 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: and we'll see how it looks moving ahead. And by 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the Urban said after the fact, that wasn't a Jaguars 66 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: practice tempo. That's Saturday that we saw. They went apparently 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: a little harder on Friday when we weren't out there. 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: A couple of guys got nicked up, it felt like, 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: so they pulled back the reins a little bit. It's 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: hard to go full tempo with eighteen guys. It was, 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, it was almost comical to call it a 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: practice when you had a team layers and you look 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: over in the offensive line is two guys and they're 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: going back there no water bricks free offensive line, by 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: the way, because they just come going back to back 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: to back to back, and you know, there's a lot 77 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: of running around. And we'll get to some of our 78 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: thoughts on it. And I was asked by a No 79 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Zone reader, Hey, you you didn't give me any takeaways 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: and you see you having takeaways after a rookie camp, 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, my takeaway is there eighteen 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: players out there, so there wasn't that much to take away. 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: When you had Trevor Lawrence, you know, throwing a little 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: bit not able to hand off. So there were some takeaways, 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: but I think as O T A S get going, 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: we'll have a lot more uh insight into this. Our 87 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: next big thing today I'll go next is the overreaction 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: to the Travis E. T N working at wide receiver business. 89 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: It just feels so strange to me. A lot of 90 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: it's from outside of the local marketplace. I get that 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: some of it seems like it's sniping in urban because 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: a lot of people like to snipe at urban It 93 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: feels like in the national media that may not be 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: around here a lot. And Uh, that's been the plan 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: the whole time, is to cross train him and to 96 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: give him some time at wide receiver because that's going 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: to be what his position is, not just wide receiver, 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: but he's a running back. He's both And how can 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: you work at running back when nobody can hand it 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: to you during rookie minicamp? The Trevor is not going 101 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: to hand the ball off. They were gonna let him 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: do any of that stuff, So why not give him 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: three days working at wide receiver. I just think it 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: was so overblown nationally. Um that it's but it's kind 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: of expected to be overblown nationally, right, it's your classic 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Twitter reaction. News. You take a quote did you see 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: on Twitter? You as a national guy, you react without 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: knowing any context. It was made to sound initially like, well, 109 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: it just working in a wide receiver, which means he's 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: just gonna play wide receive. What Urban never said. He's 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: just gonna play wide receiver. He said from day one. 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: And if you go back and listen to the availability 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: when Urban talked after the draft, he said they would 114 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: not have taken him as just a running back. They 115 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: saw this guy as an explosive piece to the puzzle. 116 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: They were either going to get Kadarius Tony or they 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: were going to get him there. Why wouldn't you work 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: him a wide receiver this weekend? What in the world 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: is he going to gain in a fifteen to eighteen 120 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: person practice taking handoff from the quarterback? If the if 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback could even hand off, they wouldn't let him 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: do it. Why wouldn't you work him a wide receiver 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: this weekend? When did you think they were going to 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: start working a wide receiver? November December? I mean, now 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: is the time to do it. It was the stupidest controversy. 126 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Well that's what they do it's people want to be 127 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: outraged so that they can get a reaction on social media. 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: That's all it is. Because I was listening to the 129 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: availability on Saturday and he said, we've always had a 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: guy like this. Anywhere he's been, they've had a multidimensional 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: guy like this. So that's what he was from the start. 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: And eighteen players working give me a break. Yeah, And 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I saw something where if he's working at wide receiver, 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: this might take away from him being a running back 135 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and he might lose some of this. How hard is 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: it to play running back? He's done this right, Yeah, 137 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows for years it's the easiest position. It's not easy. 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm not interesting. But if you can easiest position to adapt. 139 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: You take the ball, you run to a hole, you 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: run fast, you run over guys. And he knows how 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: to run in power, he knows how he's been here, 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: done that. He's the all time leading rusher in the 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: A C. C. We're not really that worried about it. 144 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: They get into vine and have to pitch to E. T. N. 145 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: He'll know what to do with the ball. At some 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: point nature and instincts will take over and that John, 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: your big thing could be part of that too, nature 148 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: your big thing. And you know it was difficult because 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: full disclosure here, I picked mine after JP had picked his. 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna go with the t N and that 151 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: was obviously going to be the main topic this morning. 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: But you know, the more I watched Walker Little and 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: the more I think about the Walker Little pick. Yeah, 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams in the draft who 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: penalized Packed ten guys for sitting out in I still 156 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: for the life and we can't figure out why that happened. Um. 157 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I look at this kid and he's two years moved 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: from an A c L. He's the number one high 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: school prospect, and I get that doesn't matter, but he 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: was first team All Packed ten as a sophomore. He 161 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: was coming out. When I talked to David Shaw a 162 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, the head coach at Stanford, he 163 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: said they were planning their left tackle position for whatever 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the next year was. Teams when he heard his A 165 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: c L they were trying to figure out what they 166 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: were gonna be left tack with. They n he was 167 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: coming out and he's gonna be a first round pick. 168 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Um in watching him, the way he moves his feet etcetera. 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: Who knows how I play Once he's out there and 170 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: is the home run pick, home run pick, well, I 171 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: mean has the potential. Yeah, just seeing him walking out 172 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: there and you see him, you hear about a size 173 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and the way you can move, but then you see him, 174 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: it's okay. He is six seven, he is said body fat, 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: he's in great shape and the draft guys, for you 176 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: draft guys, did you hope are gonna be good? And 177 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: he's got percentage, everything's risk. Uh, this is like a 178 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: great pick to me, Brian. I'm gonna talk about him later, 179 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: so I'll pass right now, Okay, Slynn, It's it's something 180 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: that this guy could you know, we'll see when camp 181 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: comes around. Who he pushes and why. But they're in 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: pretty good shape with him. It feels like yeah, and 183 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: it's a position that you look at the offensive line 184 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: and yes, the coaching staff likes where they are right now, 185 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: but there's nothing wrong with a little competition. And I'm 186 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: curious to see what happens with Cam Robinson with this 187 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: guy pushing right behind him. I think it's a great 188 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: thing for the unit as a whole. I love I 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: can't wait for the first padded practice one on one's 190 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: him to see who he lines up again, you know 191 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that whole thing. That's going to be fun to watch. 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about him later, so alright, yeah, So 193 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily something that I felt on the field, 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: although you kind of could through Urban, just the way 195 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: he moved, the way that he interacted with players and coaches. 196 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: The culture shifted last week when the players arrived, and 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: then it really hit me. I was driving while I 198 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: was listening to Urban and uh A, A T N 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: and Lawrence on Saturday. Just the way their manner they 200 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: that's all they've known, right, I mean, these are guys 201 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: who have won at the highest level Ohio State, Florida, Clemson. 202 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Their expectation is we're going to be here to win. 203 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: I think the question two Trevor was how are you 204 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: going to handle losing? I'm paraphrasing, but you know, how 205 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: are you gonna handle because you're you're you're off. Your 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: next loss in the regular season is your first loss 207 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: in the regular season. I'm gonna handle that, And just 208 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: it rolled right off of him. I'm not here with 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 1: the expectation of being a rookie and losing. I'm realistic. 210 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm planning on winning. That's why I'm here, 211 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: That's why they brought me. So it just struck me 212 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: that it didn't take long for the culture to shift. 213 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Now you get the veterans in UM, they will buy 214 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: into this in a hearty guys like Josh Allen who 215 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: were so hungry for success and to win. Um. It's 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: it shifted last week. It will be even more noticeable 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: when the veterans get in here. UM. And it didn't 218 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: take long. No, it isn't it. I was really curious 219 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: to see what coach Meyer's coaching style would be like 220 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: on the field, if he be really hands on. Really, 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: he kind of just walked around and let his coaches coach. 222 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: There was very few times when he went up to 223 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: a player and said something. It was kind of just 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: surveying the scene, which I was impressed by. It was 225 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: like I saw a few times right before practice started, 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: the early part, he would go to a guy like 227 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: I saw him talking to Jordan Smith a couple of 228 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: guys before practice like that. But once it started, it 229 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: felt like he's, Okay, we're just managing this thing. If 230 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: he needs to jump in, fine, but let him go well, 231 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: he's he's not given to uh what has been since 232 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: he gotten here and ever dealt with him before, he's 233 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: been very transparent. And he said from day one since 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: he got here that he's not going to be particularly 235 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: hands on coach. And I'm paraphrase and I hope I 236 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: get that right, but you know what, you follow what 237 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's gonna be a guy who hires good coaches. 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Let's stam handle the details. He didn't retain George Warhop 239 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: so that he can go coach the offensive line during practice. 240 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: He's a Bucky Brooks on our podcast. JP has talked 241 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: about it at nausea. He's a program builder, he's an overseer. 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: He knows how it's supposed to look and uh and 243 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: that's his role. So certainly the practice that Slynn and 244 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: I were so excited about um had his field because 245 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: he knows how it's supposed to look. When anyone looking 246 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: at a head coach, you're looking at somebody who comes in. 247 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Who are you gonna hires your coordinators? What kind of 248 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: style are you gonna run? Well, you're gonna you're gonna 249 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: hire someone that's going to do that work for you. 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: So that you can look at the big picture. The 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL is not the coach in 252 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: terms of being out there working on technique. I mean 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: they all can because they've all come through the ranks. 254 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is the guy who manages 255 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the whole process, which includes the media and the equipment 256 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: staff and the medical training staff, all of those pieces 257 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: in place. If he hasn't hired good coordinators, he's not 258 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna win big things in the book here on Jaguars 259 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: reporters for this Monday May and single game tickets are 260 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: on sale now for regular season and the preseason, visit 261 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com or called nine oh four six three 262 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: three two. There's a team of representatives ready to help 263 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: you get back in the bank in twenty one time 264 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: now for did you hear this Trevor Lawrence getting used 265 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: to voices in his head. Yeah, it's different. Um, it's 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: definitely a lot different than what I'm used to tell me. 267 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: We signaled in college, so uh, NFL is completely different. 268 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I think I'm making good progress. You know, 269 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting more I'm getting more used to hearing the 270 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: calls and repeating them and you know, breaking them. Up 271 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to where everyone's understanding it and really being able to 272 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: direct guys because, um, some of the guys were just 273 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: trying to learn everything still. So I think that's helping 274 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot me being able to, you know, take take 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: charge and lead a little bit there. Um, And it's 276 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: just getting more and more comfortable with that, which which 277 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I am. But that just takes a bunch of reps. 278 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, to get good at something, you've got to 279 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: practice it a lot. And I guess I've never really 280 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: thought about this until Trevor disgusted after practice on Saturday. 281 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: You know, they always used hand signals at Clemson. They 282 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: don't have the radios of the helmets in college. It's 283 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, something I guess and oversight on my part, John, 284 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: but it's something that he has to adjust to. I've been, 285 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, with voices in my head for years, right, 286 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you and I can both speak 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: to that. That's perfectly It's and I'm dealing with something 288 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: right now. It's a it is an adjustment, and Urban 289 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: talked about it as maybe the biggest thing they're working 290 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: on with Trevor right now, and maybe one of the 291 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: biggest things that he had to deal with Uh, I've 292 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: never been in that situation. Uh, So, I don't know 293 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: how difficult it is. I don't anticipate that it's gonna 294 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: be something that holds him back, but it's certainly one 295 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: of those behind the scenes things that through training camp 296 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: it's worth asking him about each week. I can't imagine 297 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: he won't doo fine because he's gonna be dedicated to 298 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: it and he's an intelligent kid, but it's certainly an adjustment. Yeah, 299 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: and this is the perfect time to work on that 300 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: right here, right now, the acclamation period, to get that 301 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: nailed down. To training camp, you can make the most 302 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: out of every rep. What was it the Travis said 303 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: he was super smart? Right that the Trevor has always 304 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: been super smart and this this is just a blip 305 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: in its radar. Let's move along now to everyone asks. 306 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: This is a portion of the podcast where I talk 307 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: about Walker Little. Well, we all ask a question and 308 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: then we all answered said question, and Brian, I think 309 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: you've teased it enough time. Yeah. So the question is 310 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you know which player interested to the most affter this 311 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: last weekend, and and for me it was Walker Little. 312 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I was standing over with Jeff Loghman and we were 313 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: watching and we were talking about the way that he 314 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: drops his hips. Uh. Jeff made note of the fact 315 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: that he could drop his butt almost to the ground 316 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: and still turn his whole body, you know, I mean 317 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: get really low for a six ft seven offensive tackle. 318 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: That's a really important thing that a guy can get 319 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: low to get under the pads of a defensive end 320 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: or a tackle who lines up on the inside of him. 321 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: So it's remarkable the flexibility that he has. And then 322 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: something that a term that urban Meyer used in his 323 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: post practice press conference was heavy hands when he hit 324 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: the bag. You heard it from twenty yards away. I mean, 325 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: this is to me, this guy is going to be 326 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the future at left ackle. And so you understand why 327 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: they franchised cam Robinson. They weren't sure they were going 328 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: to get him, and they wanted him to have the 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to come in and earn the job. Um, but 330 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: from what you see, there is no reason to expect 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: that that is not your long term solution at left tackle. 332 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: That's a premium position, one of the five at least 333 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that I classified as a premium position. And you got 334 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: him with I forget who said it after the draft 335 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: is here Balky or Urban that he's one of these 336 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: guys that makes the hard look easy at his positions, 337 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: and Brian just spoke to being able to do that 338 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: is hard. He makes it look easy. I've only seen 339 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: what five minutes of YouTube highlights in him running around, 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: but the way he moves, uh, it's when you watch 341 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: offensive linement over the years. The guys who sort of 342 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: have to work to get into position, the guys who 343 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: have to make themselves into players, Um, they can do it, 344 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: but you'd rather have the guy who's put on this 345 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: earth to do it. This kid feels like he's put 346 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: on this earth. Yeah, you asked me, you said home 347 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: run pick earlier in the show, and I declined. If 348 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: he's the guy and he's a left tackle at forty 349 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: five in the second round, that's a grand slant. Yeah, 350 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: it's not right. Yeah, what's your answer to the rookie 351 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: leaving an impression question? I will say it is Jordan's smith. 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: And I will say that because it seems like he 353 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: was getting very heavily coached on Saturday, especially by Joe Colin, 354 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: who the hype was real about. Joe Colins, by the way, Yeah, 355 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen him in a practice setting before and 356 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: he was animated, even with eighteen guys out there. It 357 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: was very cool to see. But Jordan Smith, you could 358 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: tell they're they're working heavily to get him adjusted and 359 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: they see a ton of potential in him. I think 360 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: Coach Meyer probably spoke to him more than anyone on 361 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: the field on Saturday. So I'm curious to see how 362 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: quickly he adapts, but there is definitely some potential there. 363 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: It's tall seven and did you see how long his 364 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: arms were? I mean, I think he had the second 365 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: longest a wingspan in UH in the draft this year. 366 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: I think it was like eighty four interest and big 367 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: hands to I mean meat cleavers for hands. You can 368 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: see why they tried to catch lightning and a bottle 369 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: with that, because if you've got that in a three 370 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: or four based scheme, with him coming off one edge 371 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen coming off of another, you've got a 372 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: lot to contend with. And John, I think you said 373 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: this right after the pick and coverage, that that's worth 374 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: giving up your seventh round pick to move up and trust. 375 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: Especially in this draft. I mean you saw there were 376 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: six undrafted rookie sign UH, A lot of teams didn't 377 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: sign very many. The pool was not very deep once 378 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: he got to this free agency, and in the reality 379 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: is in drafts, the seventh round is simply guys who 380 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: you're going to sign as free agents who you don't 381 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: want to take a chance and pay signing bonuses too. 382 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit why not give up a 383 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: seventh round pick if you think you see an element 384 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: in this kid that you can develop. I just you know, 385 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: I didn't. I've never seen him in person. So just 386 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: the size and the speed and the ability to come 387 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and do that stuff. Still needs 388 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: a little work at wide receiver. I think in the 389 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: route running they should work him over there. Good idea. 390 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there was a reason you should do. You 391 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: have a couple of practices in the spring method method 392 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: to his madness that urban Meyer. John, give us your 393 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: everyone asked question today? Uh, well, I had an answer 394 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: um for the last one. Go for it. What rookie 395 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: left your impression on you? It wasn't Trevor beautiful the hair, No, 396 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't talked about her walked out on 397 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: the field. But but there he is, and that's what 398 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: it's real. It's real. That the amount of replies on 399 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: Twitter to that all you have to do was posted 400 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: video and just say here he is, and everything's like, 401 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, black head bands are going to explode 402 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: the sales. I mean, unbelieve it. You know he's here. 403 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: The way he throws all that stuff, you don't as 404 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: you want to get through this podcast without talking about 405 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: him a little bit. Uh, he didn't do that much, 406 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: but the way he handles and stuff in the press 407 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: or the way he he's the guy. He knows he's 408 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: the guy. He knows at some point he's going to 409 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: be the the guy. And he was putting the short 410 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: to do it, and you saw a presence and you 411 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: didn't not expect it, but it wasn't it cool to see? 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: And then when for Nette was on mute, Oh that 413 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: was beautiful and no one, I don't even know if 414 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: anyone had to tell him. It was just a natural segway. 415 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, getting Genie right. Yeah, I will say I 416 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: was watching him. I was watching him throw with Marcus 417 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: Pollard and I mean every single ball right between the eyes, 418 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: just warming up. And he threw one that was maybe 419 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: at like the left cheek. It wasn't like beautifully right 420 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: between the eyes and he looks at Marcus and he goes, 421 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: my bad, that's on me, and a warm up that 422 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: wasn't right between the ass. It was just what are 423 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah, come on, let's go. What's your question? John? 424 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: The question is and it's not the most a no 425 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: question one of these And I put some effort into 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: it and this is what I got. And Uh, what 427 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: rookie do you think it makes the biggest impact? Anyways? 428 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: I asked this outside Lawrence, right outside Lawrence. Anyways, I 429 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: asked this. Now we've had a chance to see him, 430 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: had chance to think about it a little bit um, 431 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna, I know, we're gonna be talking about 432 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Walker little a lot. I don't know how much impact 433 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: he'll make initially, you know. So now that you've had 434 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: time to think about the draft a little bit, what 435 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: rookie or rookies do you think we'll actually have an impact? 436 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: Because Frank, a lot of times they don't. The first 437 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: year Brian, Well, I think a t n you know, 438 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: it's clear that they're going to put him, uh in 439 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: that role like tygreek Kill was early in his career 440 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. They lined him up in the slot, 441 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: they put him in the backfield, they put him in 442 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: a flexed position next to a tight end. He's going 443 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: to be that guy. And John is something you've talked 444 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: about for years. When you we talked about Paydon Manning, 445 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: he always knew where Reggie was right and he knew 446 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: where Marvin was. Well, this is a guy who he's 447 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: worked with for a couple of years. He's gonna know 448 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: where et N is. He's going to be his safety 449 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: valve where he can get it all the time. So 450 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: and and with his speed and explosiveness and understanding, I 451 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: just I think he's going to make the biggest impact 452 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: outside of and then you know, if he gets the 453 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: ball a few times, has some big supposed to plays defenses, 454 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: will you know, draw to him to try to shut 455 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: him down, they might open up for somebody else In 456 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: the reality for a kid like this is a rookie, 457 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, I get what people talk about during the offseason, 458 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Well is he wh what kind of yards does he 459 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: have to get to? You guys have watched this team. 460 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: We've all watched this team for four or five years. 461 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: If somebody comes in and it's capable of having a 462 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty yard play every two games, shifting the field like that, 463 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: would you take it? But haven't? Right, So that's the 464 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: sort of impact that they want. I think would be 465 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: more than that. I'm not saying that, but uh, flipping 466 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: the field like that when you haven't had it, if 467 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: he gives you that, if he converts the first own 468 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: or two, those are the moments and the big momentum 469 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: changing plays. They haven't had enough, and there's and there's 470 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: no staff for that, which is worth bringing out, you know. 471 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: I mean people won't remember necessarily in the second quarter 472 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: with two minutes left and you're at third and sixteen, 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: that he got eighteen yards Percy Harvin's for example. And 474 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: I didn't follow his NFL career enough, but I do 475 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: know that in games I watched, you worried about it. 476 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: He was necessarily in all pro, not a Pro Bowl guy. 477 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: If you look at his stats, he didn't have fiftd 478 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: yards receiving in years, but he made plays that matters, 479 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: and he made plays that scared you as a defense. 480 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: To your point, what that does for d J Chark, Yeah, 481 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: thank you for DJ, for the sake of what it 482 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: was already picked. I'm gonna go Andre Cisco. I think 483 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that was very much a position of Mead at safety 484 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: at rays Sean Jenkins and free agency. But you made 485 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: the argument who would be the other guy? And I 486 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: think Andre Cisco has a lot of upside, very underrated. 487 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: I thought in the draft and everything I've heard from 488 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: people who have dealt with him is this is the 489 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: ultimate pro. And I think when we talked him in 490 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: the press conference, we got that vibe but doing everything right, 491 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: very professional, ready to work. UM. So I'm excited to 492 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: see what he brings. I asked the scout buddy about him, 493 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: by the way, and he said to me, I he 494 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: couldn't pick where he would have gone had he been 495 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: healthy and played all year. But much higher than the 496 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: top of the third round was the response that he's 497 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: that impactful or was that impactful of a player on 498 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: the college level at a position that you guys know 499 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: has become much more prominent with the the three and 500 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: four wide receiver sets. It's in a really important spot 501 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: on the defense. Let's knee right, unhurt. I think he 502 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: goes higher than more or right around More. I mean, 503 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: same smell, same level. So Brian, have you yeah he 504 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: d t M Yeah, but that's a that's a great pick, 505 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: thank you. Let's get Let's get his knee correct and 506 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: see if he can come to camp really ready to go, 507 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll find out because he can make an 508 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: imp act on that defense. I'm gonna dig deep here, though, 509 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of the roll of dice, 510 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: because you don't know about Dylan Moses. Alabama. Might get 511 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: here Abama because when he was healthy at a high 512 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: level of Alabama, he was a fantastic linebacker for that team. 513 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Played through pain last year, knee injury two years ago. 514 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: I think he had meniscus surgery, and like February of 515 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: this year, will he be right for camp. He's an 516 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: undrafted guy. If he contributes somehow, maybe there has to 517 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: be special teams first. Then he finds a role in 518 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: a three fourth scheme here, there's a little more opportunity. 519 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: I think he could down the line be one of 520 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: the biggest steels of this class. Well, the name that 521 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: comes to mind when you think about Dylan Moses is 522 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, the Notre Dame linebacker who was injuring the 523 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl, and they drafted him in the second round 524 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: in Dallas and then he didn't really play until you know, 525 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: midway through his second year, and then all of a 526 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: sudden and he looks like Now, I don't know that 527 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: he's been consistently at that level, but he's played at 528 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: a very high level of times. And the Cowboys who 529 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: paid him, so he's been a big time Yeah. If 530 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: you get a Jalen Smith sort of impact from Dylan Moses. Wow, 531 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Remember they spent a second run pick on j Smith. 532 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: This guy comes undrafted. Holy hold on. And the other 533 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: thought on him is you need a lot of linebackers 534 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: when you play the base three four, you need a 535 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: lot of them. Yes, Smith, I think was a top 536 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: five Oh yeah, Miles Jack type talent. I think Moses 537 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: was maybe a an inch below that. But to your point, Brian, 538 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: you got him for nothing, and what a huge deal 539 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: if he's even a second round level linebacker, And yeah, 540 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: it would be a great pick up. Um can I 541 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: go with Tebow here? Now? Uh? I'm gonna I'm gonna 542 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: who said that? Um, I'm gonna go with j And uh. 543 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I was a little skeptical right after the draft when 544 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: Brian spoke of him so highly as a guy who 545 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: could come in right away contribute and be the base 546 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: of your defense. Um. I talked to his position coach 547 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: at USC last week, and obviously he's going to be 548 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: very high praise of him. But the more you look 549 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: at it, this is another guy much like Walker Little, 550 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: who I think was hurt by this strange stigma of 551 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: opting out. Um. And I don't necessarily know why that 552 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: hurt guys, except perhaps the NFL just has this attitude 553 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: during the draft, I'm going to find something to knock 554 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: somebody for and find some reason to lower you. If 555 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: you thought that this kid, which most people did, was 556 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: a late first round pick, second round pick, and he 557 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: was available in the top of the fourth round because 558 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: he didn't play because of COVID, because his family had issues, 559 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: and because the pack tin canceled the season. Um, he's 560 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: very very intriguing to me because they needed defensive tackle help. 561 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: It was a bad defensive tackle class overall. But it's 562 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: it's not hard to envision him being a real fine 563 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the fourth round. And if he is, 564 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: what a fine. Well. Brandon Williams was the comparison that 565 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: I made that day. The the guy who plays the 566 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: nose in Baltimore, and he's a really good player. Now 567 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: most fans don't know him because he has, you know, 568 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty eight tackles on the year. But he destroys the 569 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: middle of an offensive line. He creates a pile up. 570 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: And this guy is bigger and stronger than to Fele 571 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to file, is bigger than Brandon Williams. So 572 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: here's a guy who can not only create a pile 573 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: up John, but who can get some penetration. I mean, 574 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a home run pick if he comes 575 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: in and plays to the level that he had played 576 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: before the Pac twelve canceled football. Say this, So I'm 577 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: walking through the hallway here on Friday, going out to practice, 578 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: and that is a wide, large human being. And it's 579 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: not as as Logs and I talked about on the 580 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night show a lot. It's not pumped up size, 581 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: like it's just a large human band. It's not You'd 582 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: rather have guys who carry it naturally, uh, because it 583 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: just feels like this is what they're meant to do 584 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: rather than having to make themselves into a player. Yeah, 585 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: this is the guy that was brought en to stop 586 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: the run. Pretty obvious when you just look at him, 587 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and they need that help. We all know that you 588 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: think about there's been times over the last ten years 589 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: where you've gone out and you looked at the team 590 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: had to play the Jaguars said, boy, that's a bigger team, 591 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: and so I don't think it's gonna be the case 592 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: very long with this much. I think these guys want 593 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to look picker, stronger, and faster than the other team. 594 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Our next question, I'll take it, what game are you 595 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: most looking forward to this season on the schedule came 596 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: out of course last week. So I'm gonna go with 597 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: the home opener Week two against the Broncos. Who knows 598 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: what's Aaron Rodgers or not. That's another story for later 599 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: down the off season, whatever, But just the excitement everything 600 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: running out of the tunnel the first time, presumably ever 601 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence is the starting quarterback, Urban on the sideline with 602 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: the whist, the whole thing. Right Head said on um 603 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: that as you talked about the change of culture, the 604 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: first time they run out with a full stadium, everybody's 605 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: fired up. The Jags are one to know after coming 606 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: back from Houston, that's the one I'm looking forward to. 607 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I think we think ashell it's gonna be really hot 608 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: to September. I heard a rookie say on the field, 609 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: He's like, man, it's not too bad today. And it 610 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: was a beautiful weekend in Jacksonville. By the way, it 611 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: was like seventy five and breezy. I was thinking of, 612 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: isn't that adorable? Yeah, just wait till August, buddy, You're 613 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna love it because that home opener against the Chiefs 614 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: with the hottest I have ever been in my life, 615 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and you're from South I didn't think I was gonna 616 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: make it. I thought it was a goner. What will 617 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: I say. I'm in between week one and the lending game, 618 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go week one because there's so much 619 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: hyper on this team. I was watching sports in our 620 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: Sunday morning and there's Trevor throwing the ball and there's 621 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: all this excitement and build up. And you always say 622 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: there's that hot, flashy t in the off season, and 623 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: you can make the argument that Jaguars are that team 624 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: this season, and that's when it really becomes real. And 625 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: I've heard people say, well, oh, this is a fourth 626 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: preseason game against the Houston Texans. I don't know if 627 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: that's the case. I mean, this is still a divisional opponent, 628 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: and I'm really curious to see what happens when it's real, 629 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: when all the talk is over and you have to 630 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: go do it now. But people are putting a w 631 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: in the books already because that's what I've seen. Yeah, 632 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: seemed like one in fifteen last year. Let's get it 633 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: for you. Let's you start writing them down, Let's get it. 634 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Um Well, I'm gonna go, and I hope for everybody's 635 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: sake that the back is healed by the time this 636 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: game starts, because it would be fun to see. I 637 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: knew you were going, Jalen Ramsey, that would be a 638 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: shame against this team and it would be I mean, 639 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: all kidding aside, that's one that I'm not one that's 640 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: that into that sort of storyline. I joke about it. 641 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: It's whatever, But certainly that will be one where I 642 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: don't think there's that many people here that are going 643 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: to care about it inside the building because it's been 644 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: the new groups. There's some players, most players don't care 645 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: about that. They're fine, but boy, won't the fans have 646 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: fun with And uh, yeah, it'll be fine. I will 647 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: say I would I'd like to see DJ Chark and 648 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Jalen because they had some really good training camp battles. 649 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: If you can remember, I got a little chippy at times. 650 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: DJ is not the type to get chippy. But I 651 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: think that'll be a great matchup to watch that week. 652 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: I'll go with them Halloween night in Seattle or Halloween 653 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: afternoon in Seattle. Uh. That's one of the toughest places 654 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: to play. It has been for the last couple of years. 655 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: It's a long trip. Even when they weren't a great 656 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: team like oh nine. Uh, the Jaguars have never played 657 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: well out there, right. They will beat forty one to 658 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: nothing that day. They've been outscored like a hundred and 659 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: thirty and their three losses. It's it's loud as all 660 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: get out. It's a long trip. I mean it is 661 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: six full hours. And you said, well, you know you've 662 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: got that thing going to London. Yeah, well, I mean 663 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: you've got Friday and Saturday to get read. Most teams 664 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: now go out on Saturday. So it's long. It's loud. Um. 665 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: They're good, Yeah, and they're good. Russell Wilson is phenomenal 666 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: and and but you've got a young quarterback here who 667 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: you want to see how he performs in the most 668 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: hostile of environments, and you can in any stadium in 669 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: the league. It doesn't get any worse than this. So 670 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: let's see what he does on Halloween night coming off 671 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: the by How we can play this? Should we take 672 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: our costumes and go trigger treating Saturday? Do you wear 673 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: him on the plane like that? Coach Mayer doesn't strike 674 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: me as a big costume on the plane type of guy. 675 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna wear it. John walked on 676 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: the plane dress and his Pumpkins suit? What pumpkin? A ghost? 677 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: Something like square that night? Yeah, you got it, Ashlyn? 678 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Take us home? Oh gosh, what's my question? Slynn? Prepared? 679 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Are you you're sitting by John? Now? That's why the 680 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: osmosis Okay's he is coming up next week? Number one 681 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: is Monday. And there's a kind of different ways that 682 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: you can go about ots. Normally we're on the field 683 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: for every single one of them. We're not this year. 684 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: So what normally are you paying attention to during an 685 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: O t A? What's what's your goal? What are you 686 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: going out there trying to figure out? Brian? Uh Well, 687 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean it would be disingenuous if I said it's 688 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: anything but urvit Lawrence. I mean I want to watch, Uh, 689 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's got to earn the job. I mean 690 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: that any coach is going to make even the number 691 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: one overall pick proved that he's ready for the job, 692 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: which means that starts next week when they're on the field, 693 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: or this week started Friday, whenever. Um So let's just 694 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: see the progress that he makes from practice to practice. 695 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: But beyond that, UM, I'm gonna watch the secondary. I 696 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: want to see some of these young corners and safeties, uh, 697 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, blend with the Shakille Griffins of the world, 698 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: and see how how that unit comes together because it 699 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: wasn't very good last year. I think the offense as 700 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: a whole, what is this thing really going to feel like? 701 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, and Trevor is the big piece of that obviously, 702 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: but the t n the receivers, how does this thing? 703 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: You may not get a full picture of it, but 704 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a better idea as we move along. 705 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: Of Okay, they're gonna use this type of attack and 706 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: and you know they won't throw out the whole bag. 707 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: It's certainly in an open O t A setting. The 708 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: few that are open this year, that's number one for me. UM, 709 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: with you on the secondary, like, what is the what 710 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: is the front of the defense look like? And you 711 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: won't get a whole lot of that without pads on either, 712 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: But okay, three four, what does that really mean? Um? 713 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: What does that equate to on the on the practice field? 714 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious what that looks like? John, Yeah, I mean 715 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: and the front of the defense is gonna be fascinating. 716 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: And again I don't know how much. Like JP, I 717 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: don't know how much we're gonna get in an open 718 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: O T A S. And how much you're gonna show us. Uh, 719 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: you know the switches late before the play. You know 720 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: it's Baltimore scheme if you call it that, which there's 721 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: some elements of that is big on pre snap confusion, 722 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: So they'll be trying to confuse us as well, I'm sure. 723 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: But you were looking for that to see who lines 724 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: up where. I don't know how much of that will 725 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: be able to share it first until they start speaking 726 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: about it. Um. To Schlenn's point earlier in the show 727 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: that I joked about, you will be watching to see 728 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: how Urban runs a practice because that will be the 729 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: first time that we'll be able to really see what 730 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: they look like, how much tempo is involved. Um. I 731 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: think overall these questions are so tough because what you 732 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: want to watch is the offensive defensive line. There's not 733 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: that much to see inn O T A s uh. 734 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: So I'll go with receivers. It'll be interesting to see 735 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: how they're gonna use E T N and that. Um, 736 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see sort of where these receivers 737 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: start shaking out look form Marvin Jones DJ Shark. These 738 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: receivers have a lot of talent and a lot of 739 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: ability and a lot of potential. How it's actually gonna 740 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: look and who steps up as the main guys. Uh, 741 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: we know they're gonna be. How good are they going 742 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: to be? How good Laviska going to be in this? Um, 743 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: that's a fascinating group to me. Moving forward, the receivers, 744 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: I will say, and I'll be honest, I'm going out 745 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: O T A when we're able to go out, and 746 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm bringing the coaching headshots because there were so many 747 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: times I was on the field and I was like, man, 748 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't I know who the Dene coaches, but it 749 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: doesn't look like this, And that's what I'm curious about is. 750 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we really don't know these guys that 751 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: well yet, and it was very cool to see how 752 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: they communicate and how they operate. Like we're so used 753 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: to seeing a different coaching staff out there. It's it's 754 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: a whole different ball games. Like four pages. A lot 755 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: of people I kept people would ask me, man I, 756 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: I can't help you. I don't know who that is. 757 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: It was funny there was eighteen players or whatever, and 758 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: there's like triple the amount of people around them, and 759 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: hence the need for somebody to tell everybody, you know, 760 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: what's going on and where they're going to get the 761 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: most out of practice. Yeah, it was I'm bringing the 762 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: head shots next time. Good idea. That'll do it for 763 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars reporters today. Well done, everybody. We will do this 764 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: again next Monday. You're on the official that's what it says. 765 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: We'll see if we're all here. But the Official Jaguars 766 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: Podcast Network is where this lives. It's a free subscription 767 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you've download your podcasts. 768 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Of course, this program every Monday, the Huddle Up Pod 769 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, the Ozone podcast, We've got Happy Hour, and 770 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: drive Time Archive. Give us that five star rating and 771 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time on Jaguars Reporters