Speaker 1: I okay, I'm gonna start going because I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to have you here. We're with Ben Mendelgarh. Did I
Speaker 1: say it right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty much?
Speaker 3: No, not pretty much.
Speaker 2: How do you say it, mandel Kurt? I think you
Speaker 2: said mendel Kerr. It's mandel Kerr. It was very close,
Speaker 2: mandel Kurt.
Speaker 1: Now, don't let people get away with close. Okay, Ben Mandelkerr.
Speaker 1: We've had you on the big show. We've had you
Speaker 1: on the podcast, yes, because Andrew found you at the
Speaker 1: podcast awards right podcast.
Speaker 4: Yes, I watched Watch What Crappens Well.
Speaker 2: I listened to it.
Speaker 4: It is a podcast for a very long time, and
Speaker 4: I found the recaps to be hysterical. And then they
Speaker 4: were there and I'm like, I don't think you understand.
Speaker 4: Your impressions get me every time.
Speaker 3: Impressions of what Andrew.
Speaker 4: The Housewives, Yes, specifically the Meredith marks one from Salt
Speaker 4: Lake City.
Speaker 2: And thank you very much for that, indoorse Man and
Speaker 2: also Angik I am greeg I am Greek. I literally
Speaker 2: had Greek food last night, and the entire time I
Speaker 2: was like, I feel like I am Angie.
Speaker 5: Kay.
Speaker 1: So you're in Diamond lose their crap over this all
Speaker 1: the time, and I don't watch the show. However, I
Speaker 1: have to say I'm very impressed with the impressions that
Speaker 1: you have done. And you you were echoing in my
Speaker 1: brain when we had the Countess Luann on uh, because
Speaker 1: you said, of all the housewives, she's got maybe the
Speaker 1: best character arc or a story in general.
Speaker 2: I will say this over and over again. I will
Speaker 2: always make my case for Countess Luan. She shows up
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight or nine, whenever the show
Speaker 2: begins as a countess married to big old money like
Speaker 2: built the Panama Canal money while she's taken on old
Speaker 2: money and she's like, I'm a countess and you are
Speaker 2: all beneath me. I can play tennis, which it really was.
Speaker 2: The Diamond can vouch that it was like kind of
Speaker 2: her character.
Speaker 6: Oh, the tennis matches and about her.
Speaker 2: Whole thing was that she played tennis and she had manners,
Speaker 2: and she wrote a book then about manners and like
Speaker 2: how you should carry yourself at an event. And then
Speaker 2: she did random things like came out with like plates
Speaker 2: with like a line of plates or something like that.
Speaker 2: And then she got divorced and then she winds up
Speaker 2: going down this other path. She winds up like having
Speaker 2: sex with a pirate in the Caribbean.
Speaker 3: She claims she didn't.
Speaker 2: She claims she didn't, but we all.
Speaker 1: Know she said her friend infacted. She just want to
Speaker 1: smoke a doobie with the guy.
Speaker 2: Well, technically, I guess Sonia did anal with the pirate.
Speaker 6: Yea to make sure that we whip that out, make.
Speaker 2: Sure we know who the pirates with. But for a
Speaker 2: long time we are we believe that. I mean, her
Speaker 2: relationship actually does fall. She is with a new French
Speaker 2: guy named Jacques. It falls apart because on TV it
Speaker 2: appears that she had sex with a pirate.
Speaker 3: Oh, that ruined her relationship.
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of the most common things that
Speaker 2: can end a relationship. A pirate a certain age, you know,
Speaker 2: a pirate rumor, a pirate rumor will take down any
Speaker 2: relationship absolutely. And then from there, she now was like single, desperate,
Speaker 2: winds up moving into her friend's attic. And the attic,
Speaker 2: by the way, has like a tube TV, like a
Speaker 2: tube TV, like a sharp TV from like two thousand
Speaker 2: and three. Like she's up there in this and there's
Speaker 2: no heat in there. Remember, no hot water, you know what.
Speaker 2: So she's so, this former countess is now in the
Speaker 2: attic of a decrepit town home with a tube TV.
Speaker 2: And then she meets a man named Tom Dagastino, not
Speaker 2: related to the Dagasino you know, grocery fortune. But we
Speaker 2: all like to believe he is. She all thought he was, yes,
Speaker 2: and he let us. It's like the pirate rumor, right
Speaker 2: like we we later on found out it was not true.
Speaker 2: But then she has a whirlwind romance with this guy
Speaker 2: Tom Dagasino. Turns out he is like fucked half the
Speaker 2: cast and my left by the way, Okay, I just
Speaker 2: want to double I always did every podcast. I'm like,
Speaker 2: is this okay? This is airing on? And so she
Speaker 2: gets married to Tom, and then within nine months they're divorced.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, she's like wasted in
Speaker 2: a hotel and palm beach. She's arrested and now she's
Speaker 2: gone from countess and you know, like the the the
Speaker 2: last word on etiquette. And now she's arrested in Florida.
Speaker 2: And then she resurrects herself as a cabaret star and
Speaker 2: she is and now she's like a sex kitten and like,
Speaker 2: this is like her arc just keeps on evolving in
Speaker 2: such fascinating ways.
Speaker 3: It's like it's not even an arc. It's just a rollercoaster.
Speaker 2: But there you go.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. And we saw her titties, you know what.
Speaker 2: Like that. I'm I'm jealous.
Speaker 3: I wish you would have been here.
Speaker 1: You were again, you were echoing in my head because
Speaker 1: I was like, man, Ben would have loved this.
Speaker 2: I would have I would have so much.
Speaker 3: It was a good time.
Speaker 2: She's just the best.
Speaker 1: But we're here to talk about you because you're doing
Speaker 1: all kind of stuff. So you have Watch What Crappens,
Speaker 1: which is an it's a podcast.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast, but you call it watch well what Crappins?
Speaker 2: Well yes, well, I mean technically we do have like
Speaker 2: a video component that we have on Patreon, but it
Speaker 2: would start the name as a parody of Andy Cohen's
Speaker 2: show Watch what Happens. Yes, so we started our podcast
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve and we're like, well how about this,
Speaker 2: why don't we make up a pun. Instead of being
Speaker 2: watched what Happens, We'll be watched for Crappens. And yeah,
Speaker 2: from there it was born.
Speaker 1: And it's been doing really well. And you guys, were
Speaker 1: you nominated for an award at the Podcast Awards.
Speaker 2: We were, We were nominated for Best pop Culture Podcast
Speaker 2: and we actually want it.
Speaker 3: Which tell Andrew what it's like to win.
Speaker 2: Oh, what does the awards sit?
Speaker 4: Because I would think that if I ever won, like
Speaker 4: an actual big award, I'd probably keep it someplace that
Speaker 4: I could see all the time, and I'd be really
Speaker 4: obnoxious about it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not unlike that one right up there. You're
Speaker 2: there's actually like an iHeart Award on the shelf in
Speaker 2: the studio, and yours is actually like has a nice
Speaker 2: chrome to it. Mine is kind of like a matte, like,
Speaker 2: you know, great thing, I.
Speaker 3: Know you liked class.
Speaker 2: We give the shiny ones to people who are on radio,
Speaker 2: we give the matt ones the podcasters. But it has
Speaker 2: on a shelf in my dining room. And yeah, it was. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it was the coolest thing ever. You know, Honestly, when
Speaker 2: you start a podcast called watchro Crappins, you just never
Speaker 2: think you're gonna win an award, you know, like you're
Speaker 2: you have crap in your name, right, and then you know,
Speaker 2: and we were we would get advice We once met
Speaker 2: with like a PR person and he was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here's what you gotta do. You got to rename your
Speaker 2: entire podcast, Like no one wants to no one wants
Speaker 2: to help beicize something that's crap in the name. How
Speaker 2: about call it gay Men watching Bravo?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that's like a horrible, like AI
Speaker 1: generated name, Like here are the things that I want
Speaker 1: and come up with a name.
Speaker 3: Oh, gay men watching Bravo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he was like, just say what it is.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm like, we get it. But it's like,
Speaker 2: that's like we want to be watchro Crappins. So it's
Speaker 2: been cool to finally get like get in the door
Speaker 2: at festivals and and be like taken seriously. I mean,
Speaker 2: we don't want to be taken that seriously because we
Speaker 2: were comedy podcasts. But yeah, it was cool to get
Speaker 2: it get this award.
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know, I was making a little
Speaker 1: shot at Andrew over there because he was nominated.
Speaker 3: He and the Serial Killers nominated was the best food podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they lost two.
Speaker 2: Uh the Eater three or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know that you don't know her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know her. They didn't even
Speaker 2: show up. That's so rude. It's so rude. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you showed up because when we met and then
Speaker 2: we bombed it over cereals. Yes not the body.
Speaker 4: Had you on that our podcast, the serial one? Yeah,
Speaker 4: actually have you on for a full one if Scottie
Speaker 4: clears out a.
Speaker 1: Studio Speaking of the studio, that studio over there, which
Speaker 1: is right next to us, we're in the big studio
Speaker 1: right now, Ben said this is his favorite studio of
Speaker 1: all the studios he's been in, and that includes Radio Andy.
Speaker 2: So I got it was my first time meeting Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen in person. Obviously, It's like really nice there too.
Speaker 2: I just I love I just love all the big
Speaker 2: bright lights in here. You know a lot of places
Speaker 2: I know, I just love I love I love a
Speaker 2: big brash light. But yeah, that was so cool. Andy
Speaker 2: was really nice and it was really fun just talking
Speaker 2: Bravo with like the grand Zaddie of it all, you know,
Speaker 2: like he was. He was so cool in the sense
Speaker 2: that like you didn't feel like you had to hi
Speaker 2: like pull any punches, like you know, he asked, like,
Speaker 2: what did you think about what do you think about
Speaker 2: the new Real Housewives of New York reboot? And we
Speaker 2: were able to be honest and be like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't really like it that much. And he was chill
Speaker 2: about it. You could tell he wasn't like, how could
Speaker 2: you say something negative about one of my shows? So
Speaker 2: I won't say I'm pleasantly surprised. I was just was,
Speaker 2: you know, because I kind of felt like that Andy
Speaker 2: would be like that. I just you know, it was
Speaker 2: just like really cool. It was really cool that he
Speaker 2: was so he I feel like he gets it. I
Speaker 2: feel like he understands like the whole podcasting vibe and
Speaker 2: like we just have to come in and say our opinions,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So was it a pincherself moment starting this podcast Watch
Speaker 1: what Crappens?
Speaker 3: And now you're on with Andy?
Speaker 2: It was weird to be such an outsider. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that we're an insider now, but like it felt
Speaker 2: like we were not on anyone's radar, and especially no
Speaker 2: one at Bravo. And then yeah, to now be at
Speaker 2: a place where actually sitting in a studio with Andy Cohen,
Speaker 2: it is kind of full circle.
Speaker 3: Do the Housewives follow you?
Speaker 2: We do have housewives who follow us? Yes?
Speaker 7: I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any that we know, and like, I don't know
Speaker 3: any of them, want to be honest.
Speaker 7: When I mean.
Speaker 2: Sandra Bullock, I'll just I'll just name famous these. We
Speaker 2: have several that follow us. Uh, Luanne, Luanne follows us.
Speaker 3: Luanne is a follower man, she is on it.
Speaker 2: She is great, like anytime she likes something, and I
Speaker 2: just see count just Luanne like this. I just because
Speaker 2: I also imagine her looking at something like hmmm, they
Speaker 2: posted a picture of an animal following over. I like that.
Speaker 1: So a little behind the scenes here. When she came
Speaker 1: in her people there wasn't it wasn't even people.
Speaker 3: A guy who was with her.
Speaker 1: Oh, they left and then they said, hey, we don't
Speaker 1: want you guys to air X, Y and Z. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, we're not gonna do that. One,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna put all of it on camera, which
Speaker 1: just a podcast, it's gonna be all audio. But two,
Speaker 1: once we have all of it, you can't then come
Speaker 1: back and tell us don't do these things. Then Luanne
Speaker 1: ended up sending me a message I didn't get for
Speaker 1: days until after it had been released.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, she's gonna be so upset because we aired
Speaker 1: some of these things that they didn't want us to,
Speaker 1: the flash shore boobs, but she flashed us vaping in
Speaker 1: the studio, which I mean that would have gotten aust
Speaker 1: In trouble more than no one can because you are
Speaker 1: not a lot of smoking here. But we air them,
Speaker 1: we put them in this little trailer, and she likes.
Speaker 4: All of it.
Speaker 2: Of course she gets it. She's like, oh, I was
Speaker 2: fabulous in that moment, and I think she was. The
Speaker 2: way I vaped, I really am an icon.
Speaker 3: Ye, it was amazing.
Speaker 2: Aren't you trying to go to the cabaret? Oh?
Speaker 3: I want to go to the cabaret so bad. It's
Speaker 3: in October, I think.
Speaker 5: Right, we're gone. I think it's November sixteenth or something like.
Speaker 5: That's on my calendar.
Speaker 6: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, you're gonna have a fun time. So the
Speaker 2: first time I went, I went to her first tour,
Speaker 2: which was probably like twenty eighteen or so, and so
Speaker 2: she really only was prepared to sing three songs. I
Speaker 2: think so. But it was actually really good because she
Speaker 2: would come out and she would sing like, you know,
Speaker 2: she'd say lovey, which is one of her one of her.
Speaker 1: Bossles I heard, I heard all the time, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe you didn't break into song.
Speaker 2: And then what she would do is she would sing
Speaker 2: one song and then she would just leave and have
Speaker 2: a costume change, and then while she was off stage
Speaker 2: shot like she would have like Broadway people like Cheyenne Jackson,
Speaker 2: oh wow, or I forget their names, but people would
Speaker 2: come on and they would like sing like numbers and
Speaker 2: they were like amazing singers. So you'd have like Luanne
Speaker 2: doing her campy thing, and then you get like real
Speaker 2: big deal caparet and then Luan again, and it was
Speaker 2: like kind of the best thing ever. She plays the
Speaker 2: bongos else on there. She like has like a moment
Speaker 2: she pulls up bongos and she's like, look at me,
Speaker 2: a musician. Bongo bongo Bongo's.
Speaker 1: Very Matthew mcconaugheyfer So you said when Andy asked you
Speaker 1: if you liked a new season, the new am I
Speaker 1: even saying it correctly. You can say the new season
Speaker 1: of Ronnie, the cast of Ronie, the new whatever, the reboot,
Speaker 1: what don't you like about it? I'm asking the entire
Speaker 1: room too. I want Ben first, but then Diamond's over
Speaker 1: there rolling her eyes so hard.
Speaker 3: I can feel it.
Speaker 2: Diamond and I are very bonded on this. I feel Yep,
Speaker 2: they got rid of the entire cast. Okay, the cast
Speaker 2: previously was like Countess the wimb But it's like a
Speaker 2: lot of women from the Upper east Side who were
Speaker 2: women of a certain age who would go out to
Speaker 2: the Hampton's and they were just like they lived a
Speaker 2: very sheltered life and lived in a bubble and would
Speaker 2: sometimes say like wildly offensive things and they just had
Speaker 2: just and they would get wasted, and they just had
Speaker 2: a very like Upper east Side mentality and you'd just
Speaker 2: be like, I can't believe I'm what I'm watching. And
Speaker 2: they replaced it with a bunch of like young, hip,
Speaker 2: fabulous women who you just want to be your best friends.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I want best friends. I want to
Speaker 2: look at like I want to look at women who
Speaker 2: have had their marriages, they've had their children, and their
Speaker 2: kids are all off to college, and now they're getting
Speaker 2: drunk and they're having sex and they're going to like
Speaker 2: the Regency on a Wednesday night and they're just out
Speaker 2: of pocket. I love that.
Speaker 3: So the new one's just like too.
Speaker 2: It's like it's an influencer from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: I'm already bored with it and I haven't even started
Speaker 3: watching it.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 2: It wants to see inside the world's up an influencer,
Speaker 2: Like that's their job. We already see it. I want
Speaker 2: to go behind. I want to get into communities I
Speaker 2: don't have access to and want to see how they
Speaker 2: operate and see how they in their logic works, you know,
Speaker 2: because I have a hard time reconciling how you can
Speaker 2: like live in society and say and think these things,
Speaker 2: Like I don't like going into the world of an influencer.
Speaker 2: That's not me, Like that's not exposing anything new to me.
Speaker 2: Like I know, it's like there's there's no like gated community.
Speaker 2: There there's nothing. There's no nothing I have to push
Speaker 2: through to be like, Wow, I'm finally understanding something. It's
Speaker 2: just like, no, you're opening boxes on Instagram.
Speaker 7: Then I'm sick of it, Diamond, what.
Speaker 2: Is your I say that as someone who opens.
Speaker 3: Boxes, I don't need to see more of me I need.
Speaker 5: I just miss the organic relationships that the women had,
Speaker 5: Like we heard stories about the fact that like castmates
Speaker 5: would hang out and do lunches while their kids were
Speaker 5: in school together and stuff like that, and these some
Speaker 5: of these arguments would be from like things that happened
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, like Sonya and Ramona arguing over literally
Speaker 5: address from like the early two thousands and they were
Speaker 5: arguing about it in twenty fourteen or something like that.
Speaker 5: Like I miss that, like these actual organic relationships, whereas
Speaker 5: like we're watching the New Ronny and they're like basically
Speaker 5: saying Hi, nice to meet you on camera.
Speaker 6: It's it's very weird.
Speaker 2: Diamond, It's totally right, like those relationships also on Ronnie,
Speaker 2: Like on top of everything else that I said, those
Speaker 2: relationships are real, and they are they go back a
Speaker 2: long time, and they're very intertwined and there's like a
Speaker 2: lot of layers there that's like really watchable.
Speaker 1: Which interesting take notes you're gonna boar with your castmates.
Speaker 2: A very long and detailed response to because.
Speaker 3: I have no idea and I would love to one.
Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts on the Jersey Housewives
Speaker 1: and if that in fact needs to be completely revamped,
Speaker 1: clean house, or if you think they can rebuild from
Speaker 1: where they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Honestly, I don't know with that one,
Speaker 2: Like if they decide to fully refresh it, I would
Speaker 2: be okay with that because I think unlike New York,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to say, Okay, here's the
Speaker 2: new New Jersey, here's all the movers and shakers that
Speaker 2: you want to be your best friends. I think they'll
Speaker 2: just find some more crazies and tend to fly, and
Speaker 2: you know, they'll find like like Marisa Antonia and you know,
Speaker 2: like Joanna, Jody Goldfarb or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just feels like that era of TV, like the
Speaker 4: New Jersey fan has gone, like it's coming gone, Like
Speaker 4: Jersey Shore was a moment that led to Mob Wives,
Speaker 4: that led to like all the Jersey shows that came out.
Speaker 4: I feel like we're kind of past that era of
Speaker 4: Jersey TV.
Speaker 2: My hot take is that there's always room for some
Speaker 2: like Jersey Rupperknacking.
Speaker 1: I went to a charity dinner not too long ago
Speaker 1: in Jersey, like in I forget which city it was,
Speaker 1: but it was in Jersey, and when I walked in,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, the hair almost took me out.
Speaker 1: You can get too close to people. It was like
Speaker 1: natural social distancing because it was so big.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that like Jersey will be fine because
Speaker 2: there's so many characters in New Jersey, and I think, actually,
Speaker 2: like they just have to I don't want them to
Speaker 2: go into like a fan beliep kind of place like Mob.
Speaker 2: I think the show is like, see, I like Mob.
Speaker 2: I want Mob.
Speaker 4: I love like the Mob wives, like I want that
Speaker 4: he discovered his greed.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well either way, I think I think that
Speaker 2: they can reboot it and be very successful. I think
Speaker 2: they can also bring back some people and I'll still work.
Speaker 2: I think Jersey is just such a cartoony place on TV.
Speaker 2: Like in real life. I know there's more to it
Speaker 2: than that, but like on TV, it's just like a
Speaker 2: whole big, cartoony, silly place. So I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I think that they won't fall on the same track
Speaker 2: trap as New York, where it's like, no, we're going
Speaker 2: to show it the real New York, and real New
Speaker 2: York is full of young, hot, fashionable people. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true, but it's not like good TV. But like Jersey,
Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: Just walked the streets of Williamsburg and see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need that ridiculous stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more like it's not so much that I'm
Speaker 2: team Melissa. I'm just more team not Teresa. There's no
Speaker 2: reasoning with her, and I think that she's like pretty toxic.
Speaker 2: And I agree that Melissa when she's every time she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to like I just want
Speaker 2: to bring this family together. I always felt like that
Speaker 2: was so insincere. But I do like the new version
Speaker 2: of Melissa where she doesn't do that anymore because she
Speaker 2: doesn't care. She like dropped that fakery and now she's
Speaker 2: just like I fucking hate this woman. I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk to her anymore. Go fuck yourself. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's a Melissa that like should have always been there.
Speaker 5: I think I would have appreciated that. But my thing
Speaker 5: that I don't understand, and I've said this to like
Speaker 5: Melissa in Joe when they were here, Right, if you
Speaker 5: are the level headed person in this situation, take yourself out.
Speaker 5: Like Teresa has proven time and time again that this
Speaker 5: thing in her brain, I mean in her head is
Speaker 5: not on all the time, Like and so like, what
Speaker 5: are we arguing with her about?
Speaker 2: Let her go? Yeah? No, And I'm like I actually
Speaker 2: totally get that. And my co host Ronnie is fully
Speaker 2: on your side about that. I wouldn't say that he's
Speaker 2: like fully a team Teresa person, but he hates Melissa
Speaker 2: and so like just for all that, all the stuff
Speaker 2: that you bring up, like the fakery, the phoniness, like
Speaker 2: the insincerity of it all. But I just I can
Speaker 2: never get over the fact that Teresa is.
Speaker 6: She's a villain. She's just dumb like it, Like I'm
Speaker 6: being honest, This.
Speaker 7: Is my question.
Speaker 1: Why do you get people a pastor being dumb instead
Speaker 1: of being like, I don't like the dummy as I
Speaker 1: watched her on The Celebrity Apprentice, and that is my
Speaker 1: only real exposure to her.
Speaker 6: And it was that was it.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind it was Donald Trump and Theresa. There
Speaker 1: was something that was going on there, right and then
Speaker 1: now then he became the president.
Speaker 7: Talk about him.
Speaker 2: One of the people we know is her working with
Speaker 2: the charity.
Speaker 4: Basically, like the only reason why she stayed as long
Speaker 4: as she did was because it was like just keep
Speaker 4: her on the show, Like they would make calls every
Speaker 4: week to keep her in. I think they were going
Speaker 4: to eliminate her at several points.
Speaker 1: It was astounding because my sister and I were like,
Speaker 1: she made it through again, huh yeah, speak right through?
Speaker 1: Howw I don't understand this? Then in the background, I think,
Speaker 1: like to Diamond's point, as far as you know, if
Speaker 1: you're the wiser person, if you're a more calm, cool,
Speaker 1: collective person, see yourself out of the situation. I feel
Speaker 1: like politics has taught us that that does not actually
Speaker 1: work anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they go low.
Speaker 7: We go high.
Speaker 3: Now when they go low, you have to meet them
Speaker 3: in hell.
Speaker 1: And that's it, and that's I feel like it's reality
Speaker 1: TV and it's where our politics are and I'm.
Speaker 3: Here for it. So we sort of mentioned this when
Speaker 3: we were talking off the air.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to convince me to watch The Real Housewives,
Speaker 1: how would you dive into it? Because I compared it
Speaker 1: to Marvel movies, like, you don't start with what you think,
Speaker 1: you start with?
Speaker 3: Yes, what would you start with?
Speaker 2: You know? I used to always say start with old schoolrony.
Speaker 2: But I had an epiphany yesterday because I was talking
Speaker 2: to some one about this, Wow, there's a fresh takes,
Speaker 2: A fresh take, a fresh take for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Instead of starting with old school Roning. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: start with Salt Lake City. Now, no, come on, here's
Speaker 2: here's the reason why. Yes, I completely, here's the reason why.
Speaker 2: It's just it's more digestible. There's only four seasons, and
Speaker 2: so I think it I think people will be more
Speaker 2: open in four seasons. They pack in a lot. I
Speaker 2: mean there's a whole FBI raid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's, oh god, a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: What do you think you're hurting me?
Speaker 6: Because I've had this conversation with my cousins.
Speaker 5: What I think it is cheating, right, because somebody like
Speaker 5: Andrew who only watches Salt Lake thinks that they understand
Speaker 5: Bravo and Housewives from.
Speaker 6: Just that those few seasons.
Speaker 5: No, but there are a lot of things that, like
Speaker 5: you're missing because no, he brings up like he brings
Speaker 5: up like okay, an FBI raid and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But we literally watch Theresa pretend as if she wasn't
Speaker 5: going to jail until she was going to.
Speaker 6: Jail, like she might not have it.
Speaker 5: Well maybe not, but like we've seen this before, and
Speaker 5: just because it's packed into like four seasons, it's great,
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, but there's so much more that
Speaker 5: happens and you think that this is like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: the best. It's like, hello, do we forget the Ninny
Speaker 5: Leaks was on TV for fifteen years, Like that was
Speaker 5: in sales.
Speaker 1: Her for The Celebrity Apprentice. She was great.
Speaker 2: You think think of like Sake City as like a
Speaker 2: gateway franchise, like it's it's the thing that will give you,
Speaker 2: like it's taste of lots of different things. I insist
Speaker 2: that this is the one of the very best television
Speaker 2: shows of all time. It is not just reality show
Speaker 2: television show.
Speaker 1: It is no in the same category as like the Sopranos.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think it's better than the Sopranos.
Speaker 5: And I just watched the Sopranos. The reason why is
Speaker 5: so much better is because the ship is real.
Speaker 3: I believe nothing anymore.
Speaker 2: It is. There's like layers of stuff going on on Ronnie,
Speaker 2: Like there are through lines that just pop up year
Speaker 2: after year. There's like there are relationships that are that
Speaker 2: are more complex, the most scripted relationships you will ever
Speaker 2: see on TV, like endlessly compelling. Like you you like
Speaker 2: it is. It is just one of the best shows
Speaker 2: of all time.
Speaker 5: No, because Andrew is also the person that I just
Speaker 5: don't like his takes on A Housewives.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you takes are now impacting my takes because
Speaker 2: I feel like I have a very good take, but
Speaker 2: I can see that there's baggage from Andrew's takes bothering me.
Speaker 2: If there were no Andrew you, if they had never
Speaker 2: heard and just takes.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't exist.
Speaker 6: I would always say rony.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: With Andrew, and this will be a good segue into
Speaker 1: the next thing I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: Andrew watched Game of Thrones, which I actually really really
Speaker 1: enjoyed that show.
Speaker 2: On tip like you said it as if like no
Speaker 2: one really liked watching a Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like after Game of Thrones there was
Speaker 1: just so much controversy based on the end of it,
Speaker 1: and there will be spoilers. So if you are in
Speaker 1: the midst of watching it, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 3: There are spoiler alerts.
Speaker 1: Andrew over here watched Game of Thrones and intently until
Speaker 1: the Red Wedding and stopped watching it after that.
Speaker 2: I was good. What that was good? That was like
Speaker 2: me with Breaking Bad. I watched like four seasons of
Speaker 2: it and then I was like.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's what it's up there.
Speaker 2: Also it was okay, well it was I finished like
Speaker 2: season four and I was like, okay, cool, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna step away for this from a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: So when Gus got his face blown off, you watched
Speaker 1: till the end of that, I don't remember who you
Speaker 1: would remember?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Ben, he was okay.
Speaker 2: The season that I ended on was someone was in
Speaker 2: the hospital. What's his face was in the hospital? And
Speaker 2: then no, no, I saw after that the wife found
Speaker 2: the phone. Then it's the season after that She's like,
Speaker 2: I want in on this. I think, was I watching
Speaker 2: it get breaking bad? I want to talk about Ron again.
Speaker 1: There was a point where she was like helping him
Speaker 1: wash the money, like clean the money, but she was.
Speaker 2: Still kind of like you thought was an affairs.
Speaker 7: I wanted to get his.
Speaker 3: Lung cancer taken out. She found the second phone she
Speaker 3: got pissed off.
Speaker 2: Was Gus the like the other person who had the
Speaker 2: high voice. No, you know the guy who was like,
Speaker 2: hey man, what's going on?
Speaker 3: What you then? What were you watching?
Speaker 1: Gus was the mastermind behind the Mexican cartel, the chicken restaurant.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's alive in my in my timeline.
Speaker 3: Really missed a lot there.
Speaker 2: I should I should finish it, Okay, I just the
Speaker 2: same for.
Speaker 3: Me a few things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Andrew got to the Red Wedding, which is
Speaker 1: like one of the most epic scenes of.
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, fantastic TV, insane, and then he just
Speaker 3: stopped watching it. He didn't want to watch anymore. He
Speaker 3: has no idea how it ended.
Speaker 4: Wow, reason because it was just kind of like then
Speaker 4: the fifth season started and they're like, oh, here's Cadacimir
Speaker 4: and this is his cousin.
Speaker 2: Like not even.
Speaker 4: Gwendolyn and they it's just so many characters that I like,
Speaker 4: I really thought I would need a notebook and with
Speaker 4: like a chart, but you.
Speaker 3: You can keep track of ten thousand housewives.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, because it's like, oh, this person's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's Dolores from New Jersey. It's not like all Lady
Speaker 4: Gwendevere of the House of the Targaris.
Speaker 2: In six different realms, butchering Nate to be fair in
Speaker 2: the Game of Thrones universe, and especially how's the dragon.
Speaker 2: Their names all sound the same, which is very annoying.
Speaker 3: I will give you that.
Speaker 1: And I know that there's also multiple names for one person,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, like Scenari's first of her name,
Speaker 1: house of whatever, blah.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: It's always like.
Speaker 3: Mother of Dragons and they pick them up out takes.
Speaker 2: Like twenty minutes for them to just walk into a
Speaker 2: room because they have so many names that they introduce.
Speaker 1: It clearly also separates the thinkers from the non thinkers.
Speaker 3: And here.
Speaker 1: So Andrew stopped watching it after that, so he doesn't
Speaker 1: know anything that I'm about to ask you.
Speaker 3: Wow, what were your thoughts on the way Game of
Speaker 3: Thrones ended?
Speaker 2: You know, we're running form.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could ruin it. I don't know it was
Speaker 2: it wasn't an well. First of all, I hated I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ruin it all right now.
Speaker 4: I'm totally coming one of the idiot kids becomes like
Speaker 4: a thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that Ran gets the iron thrown, And honestly,
Speaker 2: I hated that. I've always hated brand. I always was
Speaker 2: so useless, like the sickly, sickly kid who can see
Speaker 2: the future. Fuck him. He just is annoying the entire time.
Speaker 2: People have to carry him around.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people killed in the process.
Speaker 2: Gets a lot of people killed, and then they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll give the We'll give the West throws over Tim.
Speaker 3: Because it should have been John Snow, right.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 2: I didn't like John Snow either. Okay, okay, he was annoying.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Why didn't Snow annoy you?
Speaker 2: Oh he's always moping around and like every man, he
Speaker 2: did have a hard life, but like lighting up, you're
Speaker 2: in a good place now. He banished to the wall. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was bashed the wall. And guess what. Guess where
Speaker 2: he's not for a lot of the time, not at
Speaker 2: the wall.
Speaker 3: So thatshed and then he got killed and.
Speaker 2: Then he came back to life. Why are you not smiling? Okay,
Speaker 2: you should be so lucky. You have a lot of privilege, sir.
Speaker 3: And half a dragon. Turns out he was half a dragon.
Speaker 2: You can become half a dragon.
Speaker 4: No, he was born that way you're born.
Speaker 2: And lady really covers a lot of territory. Hello, I
Speaker 2: forgot that he was half a dragon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Denaries were related.
Speaker 2: Well I knew that they were, like they were he
Speaker 2: was like secret targarian, yes.
Speaker 1: Which is why well not he so he was a
Speaker 1: dragon from the House of the Dragon, right, that's why
Speaker 1: the dragon didn't freak out when he actually touched it.
Speaker 3: Yes, while the dragons were mean to everybody else and.
Speaker 2: Still not smiling. And he's riding a fucking dragon. He's
Speaker 2: supposed to bet a wall and so and like, here's
Speaker 2: the other thing, is that my favorite parts of Game
Speaker 2: of Throne, my favorite settings of Game of Thrones. I
Speaker 2: love being in the city and I like also the South.
Speaker 2: I really like Dorn and it's tropical confines.
Speaker 3: Beautiful tan people.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's just like lovely and lush, and I
Speaker 2: love being all around all the wealth of like King's
Speaker 2: Landing or like I guess it, like the rich people
Speaker 2: in King's Landing. I'm just like, I'm that kind of
Speaker 2: guy who just like likes watching rich people on TV.
Speaker 1: Okay, you want the access to.
Speaker 2: Whenever you have to watch John Snow, he's always north
Speaker 2: of the wall in some cold area where it's just
Speaker 2: nothing but like pine trees and skeletons, and like.
Speaker 3: That hated him because it was location.
Speaker 2: Well, like go somewhere else. He's always every okay, every
Speaker 2: season it's like this, I think I know what I
Speaker 2: have to do what is it, John? No, stay, let's
Speaker 2: go to a tropical paradise. No, I have to go
Speaker 2: to North of the Wall. I'm like, you were just
Speaker 2: you just were North of the Wall. Take care of
Speaker 2: it in one trip, and then go to Dorn. Go
Speaker 2: to Like, go to Ess is so fancy. Why don't
Speaker 2: we spend more time there?
Speaker 3: These are all great questions. We should rewrite this, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like John?
Speaker 3: Now, No, I don't understand.
Speaker 5: It, John.
Speaker 1: I really liked John, but I've so. I have a
Speaker 1: friend who hated the way Game of Thrones ended so much,
Speaker 1: and I actually liked the way it ended.
Speaker 2: But by the way, I was not nearly as outraged
Speaker 2: as the rest of the internet. I thought. I was like,
Speaker 2: it was fine, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, okay.
Speaker 1: So his argument is that it was very rushed. Long
Speaker 1: story short, Andrew, here comes the ruining Diamond is like,
Speaker 1: I know a foreignlanguage to you in general, Denaris, who
Speaker 1: was our heroine through the entire thing, and you were
Speaker 1: rooting for her and cheering for her. Yes, they kill
Speaker 1: her best friend, chop her best friend's head off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal.
Speaker 3: It was terrible.
Speaker 1: Denara snaps and she takes her dragon and she burns
Speaker 1: the city to the ground.
Speaker 6: You're gonna kill Medaria.
Speaker 2: That's what you're ning get away with.
Speaker 1: Anyway, she took that dragon and she burnt the ship
Speaker 1: to the ground, and they were ringing the truth bell,
Speaker 1: the bell of like, hey, we're not We're not here
Speaker 1: to fight, We're just here to be cool.
Speaker 2: Be cool.
Speaker 3: If you hear this bell ring, don't do it.
Speaker 1: She heard that, she was like, fuck it, I'm riding
Speaker 1: burn everything to the ground.
Speaker 2: See that sounds like a fun ending.
Speaker 3: It was great. And then plot to us.
Speaker 2: So you know that through the whole on for a
Speaker 2: very long time. I have to say, like it went
Speaker 2: on for like forty five minutes of air time. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I've seen a building fall down. This is like being
Speaker 2: north of the wall.
Speaker 3: I'm so bored now.
Speaker 1: But also throughout the entire thing, she she had this
Speaker 1: this air that she was the daughter of the mad King,
Speaker 1: the guy who went crazy and snapped and they had
Speaker 1: to kill him. So then she went crazy and snapped,
Speaker 1: and John Snow, her lover and kind of cousin, kills her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you want to watch it, don't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of maybe got me on it. I
Speaker 2: feel like maybe all he kills her. So I think
Speaker 2: here's my issue with the season that like one of
Speaker 2: the big existential threats of the entire series is winter
Speaker 2: is coming and the White Walkers, which are like the
Speaker 2: zombie kind of you know, you know, there's you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you have to get to them. If you
Speaker 2: watched like literally the first five seconds of the show,
Speaker 2: I saw that, like you got through the HBO screen.
Speaker 2: But they are coming, and so everything is like building
Speaker 2: up to this confrontation. It's like, I guess the two
Speaker 2: big questions are who's gonna take over the Iron Throne
Speaker 2: and what are we gonna do about these zombies? And
Speaker 2: so like the zombie, the zombie situation is resolved by
Speaker 2: episode three of six episode season eight episode.
Speaker 3: Season it was I think it was sixty seven either.
Speaker 2: Way, like zombies taking care of midway through.
Speaker 3: And by the way, who knocked out the zombies? Aria?
Speaker 2: I liked her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tia Aria gets the night King and they all dropped,
Speaker 1: even though.
Speaker 2: She went through a sort of an annoying season of
Speaker 2: being like in this weird.
Speaker 3: Many faces, many faces, yes.
Speaker 2: But like the zombies, like it ends, and that to
Speaker 2: me that felt a little like it felt very climactic,
Speaker 2: and so then the fact that the show kind of
Speaker 2: kept on going was like, oh, so like to me,
Speaker 2: the season loss and steam from that. I didn't love
Speaker 2: that aspect structurally of the season, but like people lost
Speaker 2: their minds and I don't think it was like.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that bad or I thought it was poetic.
Speaker 2: I liked it, you know what I here? So I
Speaker 2: have to say something, which is that my experience with
Speaker 2: the Game of Thrones I think was sort of unique
Speaker 2: in that I hadn't watched any of it, and I
Speaker 2: binged everything ahead of the final season, so I had
Speaker 2: like a month where I was watching nothing but Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones, And so for me, I would watch the
Speaker 2: show and I watched you know, you just go season
Speaker 2: after season after season. There's no downtime, so you're able
Speaker 2: to keep everything in your mind, you're able to track
Speaker 2: everything but that But what's different is that what you
Speaker 2: miss out on is that being part of that pop
Speaker 2: culture experience of like a season ends and you spend
Speaker 2: a year being like, what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? And you build it
Speaker 2: up and then a new season starts and you're so amped.
Speaker 2: You're like at level twelve and you're so excited to
Speaker 2: see what's gonna happen, and so everything builds on it.
Speaker 2: So I can imagine after like eight years of that
Speaker 2: or nine years, that you get to this final season
Speaker 2: and it's just built up so much in your brain
Speaker 2: that like, if it does not match these expectations, you're
Speaker 2: going to lose your mind. Where it's for me, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, Like I just watched the whole
Speaker 2: thing right now, and so this is just marching on
Speaker 2: with the show.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how it worked out for me too.
Speaker 1: I had to actually purchase HBO because I had a
Speaker 1: free HBO trial and that's when I started watching it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck is this? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this show's amazing. And then it went away
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, all right, HBO, you got me.
Speaker 6: But I binged it all.
Speaker 1: But I think streaming in general has sort of ruined
Speaker 1: that aspect of any TV show. When they drop it
Speaker 1: all at one time, even when they drop like half
Speaker 1: a show and then they wait to drop the second half,
Speaker 1: people are outraged. How could you make me wait so long,
Speaker 1: but it does ruin it. I tried, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's why I hate Friends.
Speaker 2: I think I like friends either High five Ben High five.
Speaker 3: So one, there was a lot you like that friends.
Speaker 5: I like Friends, But I think my roommate in college,
Speaker 5: she would turn it on every night before we went
Speaker 5: to sleep, So I feel like it's like a comfort show.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just was worried. I was like, for some reason,
Speaker 2: like I feel like Diamond, you and I are always
Speaker 2: so in sync with all of our takes, and I
Speaker 2: feel like today between Terresa and Salt Lake City, I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't take another third. I can't take
Speaker 2: a third take where Diamond and I are not totally synchronized.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I tried to watch Friends, but I watched it
Speaker 1: back to back to back, and one there was a
Speaker 1: lot of like physical humor in the beginning of it,
Speaker 1: which was probably like a huge thing in the mid nineties, Umbrella,
Speaker 1: early nineties, whenever it was. I'm sure that was like
Speaker 1: a thing, but I was very bored by that. But
Speaker 1: also the whole the Rows and Rachel arc because you're
Speaker 1: watching it back to back to back, it was like
Speaker 1: four episodes. It was very short when they were together,
Speaker 1: and then there was a break and then whatever happened,
Speaker 1: and then that shit carried on for the whole season,
Speaker 1: where when you're watching it really quickly, it was so fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, everybody, shut up, get over this. But
Speaker 1: if I was watching it maybe one episode at a
Speaker 1: time and it was spread out over a month or
Speaker 1: however long, I probably would have felt differently about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I find that show to be horrible.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like that funny. That's my shoe.
Speaker 2: It's not that funny. But I think that like with
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones. I read an article in the show
Speaker 2: by the way Thrones to come to the year, I mean,
Speaker 2: like the Bear. Yeah, you know what, if the Bear
Speaker 2: could be a comedy, Game of Thrones could just be
Speaker 2: slapstid for sure. It Actually Game of Thrones is kind
Speaker 2: of funny because there it is ridiculous some of the
Speaker 2: things that happened. But Wesley Morris and The New York
Speaker 2: Times wrote an article and leading up to the final
Speaker 2: season a Game of Throne saying same thing, like, I
Speaker 2: binge this show. I watched it, I watched it all,
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was great, And he was like,
Speaker 2: but I don't feel like it's mine. He's like I
Speaker 2: did not have to sit through years and years of
Speaker 2: anticipation and waiting and going on the internet and prediction
Speaker 2: reading predictions and what can happen? And like, I think
Speaker 2: to be a true Game of Thrones fan, or not
Speaker 2: to be a true Game of Thrones fan, but to
Speaker 2: have had the full experience, you had to have really
Speaker 2: waited and put in your time and soaked in every
Speaker 2: single trailer and focus on every single frame. And like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's I think the end. Like we just
Speaker 2: binged it, and so we just had we had privilege,
Speaker 2: we just could watch all it was. We had time,
Speaker 2: privilege we had we could just watch it and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: And with cool.
Speaker 1: I have a very good friend who truly wants to
Speaker 1: unfront me because I said I liked the way it ended.
Speaker 2: But as you were saying, well, you know, the other
Speaker 2: thing is though, like I like, how's the Dragon? But
Speaker 2: it does make me reflect on how rich and how
Speaker 2: like how multi layered Game of Thrones was, because like
Speaker 2: how's the Dragon's good? But it's just not nearly as
Speaker 2: like it does not have such a complete world as
Speaker 2: as Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4: And I kind of know that good tropical environments.
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, we saw our first tropical environment this
Speaker 2: past this past episode. I was like, why do we
Speaker 2: have to wait two years to get to a tropical
Speaker 2: there spent a lot of time in the cold and
Speaker 2: house the dragon.
Speaker 3: Actually that's all he cares about. I need sunshine, I
Speaker 3: need tand bodies and.
Speaker 2: We can we have yeah, can we have a palm tree?
Speaker 3: And John Snow smile.
Speaker 1: Okay, last question, and then I know you have to
Speaker 1: go because you're to get on a plane. If you
Speaker 1: could have picked somebody to rule at the end of
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, who would it be?
Speaker 3: Who should have inherited the kingdom? Since you erroneously say
Speaker 3: not John Snow.
Speaker 2: Hmm, let's see. Maybe Brianna of Tarth. I always really
Speaker 2: liked her because she could have sat, she could have
Speaker 2: sat on the throne and then she could have like
Speaker 2: trembled her her chin a little bit and she'd be like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe it doesn't It's like, Okay.
Speaker 3: You just wanted somebody who's very humbles.
Speaker 2: The night the last night. Yes, I liked her.
Speaker 3: Somewhere, yeah, sir Jamie.
Speaker 2: And she's the one with the guy who got his
Speaker 2: arm chopped off.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, Jamie.
Speaker 4: Jamie, Sir Jamie, Yeah, got it, Jamie character.
Speaker 2: I think you know what, I think you should finish
Speaker 2: watching it because there's some really fun stuff that happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some really crazy started book.
Speaker 4: I can't not finish a book. It's like a really
Speaker 4: like so I almost feel that same way that the
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones book is just open and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: Need to finish it.
Speaker 4: But now, going in like almost three years later, I
Speaker 4: will come over.
Speaker 3: And watch it with you, and when you have questions,
Speaker 3: I'll give you the answer something.
Speaker 2: It's like a fun journey, like I think that like
Speaker 2: it's it's you know, like and like I do anticipate
Speaker 2: that I will finish Breaking Bad. It was like I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't say like, oh I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure he started it.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either. I think I did, but I
Speaker 2: could have just been watching an in commercial.
Speaker 3: It's just a trailer on it.
Speaker 2: When he sold that that meat dehydrator, I was like, wow, diversifying.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: All right, is there anything you guys want to ask
Speaker 1: Ben before we let him go and catch a super No, I.
Speaker 4: Mean we'll chat later about packing cubes.
Speaker 2: So it's fine.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, okay, real quickly. You changed Andrew's life.
Speaker 3: Please tell us how Andrew changed my life, said, no
Speaker 3: one ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I went on a trip to Europe and
Speaker 2: I was concerned about like what my under the seat
Speaker 2: bag would be, and he was like, why don't you
Speaker 2: get a Duffel And I was like, that's and then
Speaker 2: I started researching Duffles. I actually did not get a Duffel,
Speaker 2: but it sent me down a path of underseat luggage
Speaker 2: research and I wound up with this amazing Patagonia bag,
Speaker 2: the Mini MLC, and I love it. I love it
Speaker 2: so and it has so much space and I was
Speaker 2: able to bring back so many stupid Schokis from Europe
Speaker 2: and it fit under my seat and no one know,
Speaker 2: not not a single flight attendant or gate agent in
Speaker 2: Europe badter than I, because they're apparently very strict. And
Speaker 2: I have to say, it was just the most fun
Speaker 2: ever researching that bag and then finally getting it.
Speaker 1: Have you brought Patagonia on to be one of the
Speaker 1: sponsors of your podcast?
Speaker 2: I would become like a full on Patagonian influencer, and
Speaker 2: then I could also be on Roney.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, they should let some guys on there.
Speaker 4: I feel like they And I learned packing cubes from
Speaker 4: Ben because I was he was talking about the importance
Speaker 4: of packing cubes.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm a new packing cube convert, and it
Speaker 2: makes the tubes.
Speaker 4: I was able to go to Japan for two full
Speaker 4: weeks with like full wardrobe inside of my carry on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was insane. I did. I did Europe for
Speaker 2: three weeks packing cubes. I mean, I had to do laundry,
Speaker 2: but like it still was you know, life. It was enough. Yes,
Speaker 2: well this.
Speaker 1: Could be really important for us because we're about to
Speaker 1: take a trip together, the three of us and Josh.
Speaker 3: We are headed out west.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do Yellowstone, Grand Teton, and Glacier National Parks.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Diamond and I were talking about, like what kind of luggage.
Speaker 7: Are you bringing bringing?
Speaker 3: Okay, is it going to be carry on or are
Speaker 3: you going to bring like a full suitcase.
Speaker 2: Are you guys camping or plating at a hotel?
Speaker 4: We call it off the grade, but really we're inside
Speaker 4: a hotel.
Speaker 3: It is very much on the rid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got for bears.
Speaker 6: Uh A lot about this now.
Speaker 5: Everybody is saying, like lookout for him, not just like
Speaker 5: oh you'll see one, but.
Speaker 3: Like look out diamond though.
Speaker 1: In all of my research, and we know a bear doctor,
Speaker 1: so we'll call her.
Speaker 3: And we'll find out.
Speaker 1: Okay, and all the things that I've ever read about bears,
Speaker 1: I can't remember a story where a bear attacked a
Speaker 1: group of people. So I feel like as long as
Speaker 1: the four of U state together will look bigger to
Speaker 1: the bear and it'll probably go away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you say, you know what, excuse me bear? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we our radio personalities and whatever you do us people
Speaker 2: will know about it. So think twice.
Speaker 3: I think that will be very effective. Yeah, so we
Speaker 3: did figure out our packing situation, so I'm excited.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So if people want to find you, how do
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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, thank you also, guys, because we're definitely going
Speaker 1: to have to wrap it up without asking me anything
Speaker 1: and stuff. If you want to find you, Diamond, where
Speaker 1: will they find you?
Speaker 5: Oh at Diamond sincere on Instagram, Andrew at Andrew Punk.
Speaker 3: We need to change your So can I win? Can
Speaker 3: I win?
Speaker 2: Roasted every day? I you can? I win every day?
Speaker 1: And on that know, everybody said bye bye