WEBVTT - Why Do You Hate the Reboot?

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, I'm gonna start going because I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to have you here. We're with Ben Mendelgarh. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>say it right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Pretty much?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you say it, mandel Kurt? I think you

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<v Speaker 2>said mendel Kerr. It's mandel Kerr. It was very close,

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<v Speaker 2>mandel Kurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, don't let people get away with close. Okay, Ben Mandelkerr.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had you on the big show. We've had you

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, yes, because Andrew found you at the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast awards right podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I watched Watch What Crappens Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a podcast for a very long time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I found the recaps to be hysterical. And then they

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<v Speaker 4>were there and I'm like, I don't think you understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Your impressions get me every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Impressions of what Andrew.

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<v Speaker 4>The Housewives, Yes, specifically the Meredith marks one from Salt

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<v Speaker 4>Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you very much for that, indoorse Man and

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<v Speaker 2>also Angik I am greeg I am Greek. I literally

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<v Speaker 2>had Greek food last night, and the entire time I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I feel like I am Angie.

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<v Speaker 5>Kay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in Diamond lose their crap over this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I don't watch the show. However, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say I'm very impressed with the impressions that

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<v Speaker 1>you have done. And you you were echoing in my

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<v Speaker 1>brain when we had the Countess Luann on uh, because

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<v Speaker 1>you said, of all the housewives, she's got maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>best character arc or a story in general.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this over and over again. I will

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<v Speaker 2>always make my case for Countess Luan. She shows up

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight or nine, whenever the show

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<v Speaker 2>begins as a countess married to big old money like

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<v Speaker 2>built the Panama Canal money while she's taken on old

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<v Speaker 2>money and she's like, I'm a countess and you are

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<v Speaker 2>all beneath me. I can play tennis, which it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>The Diamond can vouch that it was like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>her character.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, the tennis matches and about her.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole thing was that she played tennis and she had manners,

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<v Speaker 2>and she wrote a book then about manners and like

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<v Speaker 2>how you should carry yourself at an event. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she did random things like came out with like plates

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<v Speaker 2>with like a line of plates or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she got divorced and then she winds up

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<v Speaker 2>going down this other path. She winds up like having

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<v Speaker 2>sex with a pirate in the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 3>She claims she didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>She claims she didn't, but we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Know she said her friend infacted. She just want to

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<v Speaker 1>smoke a doobie with the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, technically, I guess Sonia did anal with the pirate.

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<v Speaker 6>Yea to make sure that we whip that out, make.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we know who the pirates with. But for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time we are we believe that. I mean, her

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<v Speaker 2>relationship actually does fall. She is with a new French

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<v Speaker 2>guy named Jacques. It falls apart because on TV it

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<v Speaker 2>appears that she had sex with a pirate.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that ruined her relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's one of the most common things that

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<v Speaker 2>can end a relationship. A pirate a certain age, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a pirate rumor, a pirate rumor will take down any

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<v Speaker 2>relationship absolutely. And then from there, she now was like single, desperate,

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<v Speaker 2>winds up moving into her friend's attic. And the attic,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, has like a tube TV, like a

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<v Speaker 2>tube TV, like a sharp TV from like two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three. Like she's up there in this and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no heat in there. Remember, no hot water, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's so, this former countess is now in the

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<v Speaker 2>attic of a decrepit town home with a tube TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she meets a man named Tom Dagastino, not

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<v Speaker 2>related to the Dagasino you know, grocery fortune. But we

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<v Speaker 2>all like to believe he is. She all thought he was, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he let us. It's like the pirate rumor, right

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<v Speaker 2>like we we later on found out it was not true.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she has a whirlwind romance with this guy

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Dagasino. Turns out he is like fucked half the

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<v Speaker 2>cast and my left by the way, Okay, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to double I always did every podcast. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this okay? This is airing on? And so she

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<v Speaker 2>gets married to Tom, and then within nine months they're divorced.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, she's like wasted in

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<v Speaker 2>a hotel and palm beach. She's arrested and now she's

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<v Speaker 2>gone from countess and you know, like the the the

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<v Speaker 2>last word on etiquette. And now she's arrested in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she resurrects herself as a cabaret star and

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<v Speaker 2>she is and now she's like a sex kitten and like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like her arc just keeps on evolving in

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<v Speaker 2>such fascinating ways.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's not even an arc. It's just a rollercoaster.

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<v Speaker 2>But there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. And we saw her titties, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that. I'm I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish you would have been here.

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<v Speaker 1>You were again, you were echoing in my head because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, Ben would have loved this.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have I would have so much.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just the best.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're here to talk about you because you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of stuff. So you have Watch What Crappens,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an it's a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a podcast, but you call it watch well what Crappins?

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<v Speaker 2>Well yes, well, I mean technically we do have like

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<v Speaker 2>a video component that we have on Patreon, but it

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<v Speaker 2>would start the name as a parody of Andy Cohen's

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<v Speaker 2>show Watch what Happens. Yes, so we started our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve and we're like, well how about this,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we make up a pun. Instead of being

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<v Speaker 2>watched what Happens, We'll be watched for Crappens. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>from there it was born.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been doing really well. And you guys, were

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<v Speaker 1>you nominated for an award at the Podcast Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>We were, We were nominated for Best pop Culture Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and we actually want it.

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<v Speaker 3>Which tell Andrew what it's like to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what does the awards sit?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I would think that if I ever won, like

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<v Speaker 4>an actual big award, I'd probably keep it someplace that

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<v Speaker 4>I could see all the time, and I'd be really

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<v Speaker 4>obnoxious about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not unlike that one right up there. You're

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<v Speaker 2>there's actually like an iHeart Award on the shelf in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, and yours is actually like has a nice

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<v Speaker 2>chrome to it. Mine is kind of like a matte, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, great thing, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you liked class.

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<v Speaker 2>We give the shiny ones to people who are on radio,

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<v Speaker 2>we give the matt ones the podcasters. But it has

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<v Speaker 2>on a shelf in my dining room. And yeah, it was. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the coolest thing ever. You know, Honestly, when

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<v Speaker 2>you start a podcast called watchro Crappins, you just never

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<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna win an award, you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>you have crap in your name, right, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were we would get advice We once met

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<v Speaker 2>with like a PR person and he was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what you gotta do. You got to rename your

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<v Speaker 2>entire podcast, Like no one wants to no one wants

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<v Speaker 2>to help beicize something that's crap in the name. How

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<v Speaker 2>about call it gay Men watching Bravo?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, that's like a horrible, like AI

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<v Speaker 1>generated name, Like here are the things that I want

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<v Speaker 1>and come up with a name.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, gay men watching Bravo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what he was like, just say what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm like, we get it. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like we want to be watchro Crappins. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been cool to finally get like get in the door

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<v Speaker 2>at festivals and and be like taken seriously. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to be taken that seriously because we

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<v Speaker 2>were comedy podcasts. But yeah, it was cool to get

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<v Speaker 2>it get this award.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't know, I was making a little

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<v Speaker 1>shot at Andrew over there because he was nominated.

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<v Speaker 3>He and the Serial Killers nominated was the best food podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they lost two.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh the Eater three or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that you don't know her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't know her. They didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>show up. That's so rude. It's so rude. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you showed up because when we met and then

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<v Speaker 2>we bombed it over cereals. Yes not the body.

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<v Speaker 4>Had you on that our podcast, the serial one? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>actually have you on for a full one if Scottie

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<v Speaker 4>clears out a.

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<v Speaker 1>Studio Speaking of the studio, that studio over there, which

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<v Speaker 1>is right next to us, we're in the big studio

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Ben said this is his favorite studio of

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<v Speaker 1>all the studios he's been in, and that includes Radio Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got it was my first time meeting Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Cohen in person. Obviously, It's like really nice there too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I love I just love all the big

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<v Speaker 2>bright lights in here. You know a lot of places

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I just love I love I love a

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<v Speaker 2>big brash light. But yeah, that was so cool. Andy

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<v Speaker 2>was really nice and it was really fun just talking

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<v Speaker 2>Bravo with like the grand Zaddie of it all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was. He was so cool in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that like you didn't feel like you had to hi

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<v Speaker 2>like pull any punches, like you know, he asked, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think about what do you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the new Real Housewives of New York reboot? And we

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<v Speaker 2>were able to be honest and be like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really like it that much. And he was chill

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<v Speaker 2>about it. You could tell he wasn't like, how could

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<v Speaker 2>you say something negative about one of my shows? So

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say I'm pleasantly surprised. I was just was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I kind of felt like that Andy

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<v Speaker 2>would be like that. I just you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like really cool. It was really cool that he

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<v Speaker 2>was so he I feel like he gets it. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he understands like the whole podcasting vibe and

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<v Speaker 2>like we just have to come in and say our opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So was it a pincherself moment starting this podcast Watch

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<v Speaker 1>what Crappens?

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're on with Andy?

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird to be such an outsider. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that we're an insider now, but like it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like we were not on anyone's radar, and especially no

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<v Speaker 2>one at Bravo. And then yeah, to now be at

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<v Speaker 2>a place where actually sitting in a studio with Andy Cohen,

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the Housewives follow you?

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<v Speaker 2>We do have housewives who follow us? Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, any that we know, and like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>any of them, want to be honest.

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<v Speaker 7>When I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Sandra Bullock, I'll just I'll just name famous these. We

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<v Speaker 2>have several that follow us. Uh, Luanne, Luanne follows us.

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<v Speaker 3>Luanne is a follower man, she is on it.

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<v Speaker 2>She is great, like anytime she likes something, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just see count just Luanne like this. I just because

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<v Speaker 2>I also imagine her looking at something like hmmm, they

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<v Speaker 2>posted a picture of an animal following over. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So a little behind the scenes here. When she came

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<v Speaker 1>in her people there wasn't it wasn't even people.

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<v Speaker 3>A guy who was with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they left and then they said, hey, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys to air X, Y and Z. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, we're not gonna do that. One,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna put all of it on camera, which

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<v Speaker 1>just a podcast, it's gonna be all audio. But two,

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<v Speaker 1>once we have all of it, you can't then come

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<v Speaker 1>back and tell us don't do these things. Then Luanne

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<v Speaker 1>ended up sending me a message I didn't get for

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<v Speaker 1>days until after it had been released.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, she's gonna be so upset because we aired

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<v Speaker 1>some of these things that they didn't want us to,

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<v Speaker 1>the flash shore boobs, but she flashed us vaping in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, which I mean that would have gotten aust

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<v Speaker 1>In trouble more than no one can because you are

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of smoking here. But we air them,

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<v Speaker 1>we put them in this little trailer, and she likes.

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<v Speaker 4>All of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course she gets it. She's like, oh, I was

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous in that moment, and I think she was. The

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<v Speaker 2>way I vaped, I really am an icon.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't you trying to go to the cabaret? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go to the cabaret so bad. It's

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<v Speaker 3>in October, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we're gone. I think it's November sixteenth or something like.

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<v Speaker 5>That's on my calendar.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, you're gonna have a fun time. So the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I went, I went to her first tour,

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<v Speaker 2>which was probably like twenty eighteen or so, and so

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<v Speaker 2>she really only was prepared to sing three songs. I

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<v Speaker 2>think so. But it was actually really good because she

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<v Speaker 2>would come out and she would sing like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd say lovey, which is one of her one of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Bossles I heard, I heard all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe you didn't break into song.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what she would do is she would sing

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<v Speaker 2>one song and then she would just leave and have

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<v Speaker 2>a costume change, and then while she was off stage

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<v Speaker 2>shot like she would have like Broadway people like Cheyenne Jackson,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, or I forget their names, but people would

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<v Speaker 2>come on and they would like sing like numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like amazing singers. So you'd have like Luanne

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<v Speaker 2>doing her campy thing, and then you get like real

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<v Speaker 2>big deal caparet and then Luan again, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of the best thing ever. She plays the

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<v Speaker 2>bongos else on there. She like has like a moment

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<v Speaker 2>she pulls up bongos and she's like, look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>a musician. Bongo bongo Bongo's.

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<v Speaker 1>Very Matthew mcconaugheyfer So you said when Andy asked you

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<v Speaker 1>if you liked a new season, the new am I

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<v Speaker 1>even saying it correctly. You can say the new season

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<v Speaker 1>of Ronnie, the cast of Ronie, the new whatever, the reboot,

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<v Speaker 1>what don't you like about it? I'm asking the entire

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<v Speaker 1>room too. I want Ben first, but then Diamond's over

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<v Speaker 1>there rolling her eyes so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I can feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Diamond and I are very bonded on this. I feel Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>they got rid of the entire cast. Okay, the cast

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<v Speaker 2>previously was like Countess the wimb But it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of women from the Upper east Side who were

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<v Speaker 2>women of a certain age who would go out to

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<v Speaker 2>the Hampton's and they were just like they lived a

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<v Speaker 2>very sheltered life and lived in a bubble and would

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes say like wildly offensive things and they just had

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<v Speaker 2>just and they would get wasted, and they just had

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<v Speaker 2>a very like Upper east Side mentality and you'd just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I can't believe I'm what I'm watching. And

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<v Speaker 2>they replaced it with a bunch of like young, hip,

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous women who you just want to be your best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I want best friends. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>look at like I want to look at women who

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<v Speaker 2>have had their marriages, they've had their children, and their

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<v Speaker 2>kids are all off to college, and now they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>drunk and they're having sex and they're going to like

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<v Speaker 2>the Regency on a Wednesday night and they're just out

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<v Speaker 2>of pocket. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>So the new one's just like too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's an influencer from Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already bored with it and I haven't even started

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<v Speaker 3>watching it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>It wants to see inside the world's up an influencer,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's their job. We already see it. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go behind. I want to get into communities I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have access to and want to see how they

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<v Speaker 2>operate and see how they in their logic works, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I have a hard time reconciling how you can

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<v Speaker 2>like live in society and say and think these things,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't like going into the world of an influencer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not me, Like that's not exposing anything new to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know, it's like there's there's no like gated community.

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<v Speaker 2>There there's nothing. There's no nothing I have to push

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<v Speaker 2>through to be like, Wow, I'm finally understanding something. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, no, you're opening boxes on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 7>Then I'm sick of it, Diamond, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Is your I say that as someone who opens.

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<v Speaker 3>Boxes, I don't need to see more of me I need.

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<v Speaker 5>I just miss the organic relationships that the women had,

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<v Speaker 5>Like we heard stories about the fact that like castmates

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<v Speaker 5>would hang out and do lunches while their kids were

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<v Speaker 5>in school together and stuff like that, and these some

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<v Speaker 5>of these arguments would be from like things that happened

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years ago, like Sonya and Ramona arguing over literally

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<v Speaker 5>address from like the early two thousands and they were

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<v Speaker 5>arguing about it in twenty fourteen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I miss that, like these actual organic relationships, whereas

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<v Speaker 5>like we're watching the New Ronny and they're like basically

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<v Speaker 5>saying Hi, nice to meet you on camera.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Diamond, It's totally right, like those relationships also on Ronnie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like on top of everything else that I said, those

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<v Speaker 2>relationships are real, and they are they go back a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and they're very intertwined and there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of layers there that's like really watchable.

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<v Speaker 1>Which interesting take notes you're gonna boar with your castmates.

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<v Speaker 2>A very long and detailed response to because.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea and I would love to one.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know your thoughts on the Jersey Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>and if that in fact needs to be completely revamped,

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<v Speaker 1>clean house, or if you think they can rebuild from

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<v Speaker 1>where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, Honestly, I don't know with that one,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if they decide to fully refresh it, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be okay with that because I think unlike New York,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're going to say, Okay, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>new New Jersey, here's all the movers and shakers that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be your best friends. I think they'll

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<v Speaker 2>just find some more crazies and tend to fly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they'll find like like Marisa Antonia and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Joanna, Jody Goldfarb or whatever. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It just feels like that era of TV, like the

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<v Speaker 4>New Jersey fan has gone, like it's coming gone, Like

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<v Speaker 4>Jersey Shore was a moment that led to Mob Wives,

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<v Speaker 4>that led to like all the Jersey shows that came out.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we're kind of past that era of

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<v Speaker 4>Jersey TV.

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<v Speaker 2>My hot take is that there's always room for some

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<v Speaker 2>like Jersey Rupperknacking.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a charity dinner not too long ago

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<v Speaker 1>in Jersey, like in I forget which city it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was in Jersey, and when I walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, yeah, the hair almost took me out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get too close to people. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>natural social distancing because it was so big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that like Jersey will be fine because

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many characters in New Jersey, and I think, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>like they just have to I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>go into like a fan beliep kind of place like Mob.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the show is like, see, I like Mob.

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<v Speaker 2>I want Mob.

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<v Speaker 4>I love like the Mob wives, like I want that

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<v Speaker 4>he discovered his greed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, well either way, I think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they can reboot it and be very successful. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they can also bring back some people and I'll still work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jersey is just such a cartoony place on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in real life. I know there's more to it

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<v Speaker 2>than that, but like on TV, it's just like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole big, cartoony, silly place. So I think they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they won't fall on the same track

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<v Speaker 2>trap as New York, where it's like, no, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to show it the real New York, and real New

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<v Speaker 2>York is full of young, hot, fashionable people. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true, but it's not like good TV. But like Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just walked the streets of Williamsburg and see it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need that ridiculous stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's more like it's not so much that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>team Melissa. I'm just more team not Teresa. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning with her, and I think that she's like pretty toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree that Melissa when she's every time she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just want to like I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring this family together. I always felt like that

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<v Speaker 2>was so insincere. But I do like the new version

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<v Speaker 2>of Melissa where she doesn't do that anymore because she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't care. She like dropped that fakery and now she's

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<v Speaker 2>just like I fucking hate this woman. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to her anymore. Go fuck yourself. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Melissa that like should have always been there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I would have appreciated that. But my thing

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<v Speaker 5>that I don't understand, and I've said this to like

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<v Speaker 5>Melissa in Joe when they were here, Right, if you

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<v Speaker 5>are the level headed person in this situation, take yourself out.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Teresa has proven time and time again that this

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<v Speaker 5>thing in her brain, I mean in her head is

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<v Speaker 5>not on all the time, Like and so like, what

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<v Speaker 5>are we arguing with her about?

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<v Speaker 2>Let her go? Yeah? No, And I'm like I actually

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<v Speaker 2>totally get that. And my co host Ronnie is fully

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<v Speaker 2>on your side about that. I wouldn't say that he's

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<v Speaker 2>like fully a team Teresa person, but he hates Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>and so like just for all that, all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that you bring up, like the fakery, the phoniness, like

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<v Speaker 2>the insincerity of it all. But I just I can

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<v Speaker 2>never get over the fact that Teresa is.

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<v Speaker 6>She's a villain. She's just dumb like it, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>being honest, This.

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<v Speaker 7>Is my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you get people a pastor being dumb instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being like, I don't like the dummy as I

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<v Speaker 1>watched her on The Celebrity Apprentice, and that is my

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<v Speaker 1>only real exposure to her.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind it was Donald Trump and Theresa. There

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<v Speaker 1>was something that was going on there, right and then

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<v Speaker 1>now then he became the president.

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<v Speaker 7>Talk about him.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the people we know is her working with

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<v Speaker 2>the charity.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, like the only reason why she stayed as long

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<v Speaker 4>as she did was because it was like just keep

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<v Speaker 4>her on the show, Like they would make calls every

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<v Speaker 4>week to keep her in. I think they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to eliminate her at several points.

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<v Speaker 1>It was astounding because my sister and I were like,

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<v Speaker 1>she made it through again, huh yeah, speak right through?

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<v Speaker 1>Howw I don't understand this? Then in the background, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like to Diamond's point, as far as you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the wiser person, if you're a more calm, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>collective person, see yourself out of the situation. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like politics has taught us that that does not actually

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<v Speaker 1>work anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when they go low.

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<v Speaker 7>We go high.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when they go low, you have to meet them

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<v Speaker 3>in hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it, and that's I feel like it's reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV and it's where our politics are and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Here for it. So we sort of mentioned this when

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to convince me to watch The Real Housewives,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you dive into it? Because I compared it

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<v Speaker 1>to Marvel movies, like, you don't start with what you think,

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<v Speaker 1>you start with?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what would you start with?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I used to always say start with old schoolrony.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had an epiphany yesterday because I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to some one about this, Wow, there's a fresh takes,

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<v Speaker 2>A fresh take, a fresh take for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of starting with old school Roning. I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>start with Salt Lake City. Now, no, come on, here's

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<v Speaker 2>here's the reason why. Yes, I completely, here's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's more digestible. There's only four seasons, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think it I think people will be more

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<v Speaker 2>open in four seasons. They pack in a lot. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there's a whole FBI raid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's, oh god, a whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think you're hurting me?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I've had this conversation with my cousins.

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<v Speaker 5>What I think it is cheating, right, because somebody like

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<v Speaker 5>Andrew who only watches Salt Lake thinks that they understand

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<v Speaker 5>Bravo and Housewives from.

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<v Speaker 6>Just that those few seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>No, but there are a lot of things that, like

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<v Speaker 5>you're missing because no, he brings up like he brings

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<v Speaker 5>up like okay, an FBI raid and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But we literally watch Theresa pretend as if she wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>going to jail until she was going to.

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<v Speaker 6>Jail, like she might not have it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well maybe not, but like we've seen this before, and

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<v Speaker 5>just because it's packed into like four seasons, it's great,

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<v Speaker 5>don't get me wrong, but there's so much more that

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<v Speaker 5>happens and you think that this is like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>the best. It's like, hello, do we forget the Ninny

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<v Speaker 5>Leaks was on TV for fifteen years, Like that was

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<v Speaker 5>in sales.

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<v Speaker 1>Her for The Celebrity Apprentice. She was great.

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<v Speaker 2>You think think of like Sake City as like a

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<v Speaker 2>gateway franchise, like it's it's the thing that will give you,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's taste of lots of different things. I insist

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the one of the very best television

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<v Speaker 2>shows of all time. It is not just reality show

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<v Speaker 2>television show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is no in the same category as like the Sopranos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I think it's better than the Sopranos.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just watched the Sopranos. The reason why is

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<v Speaker 5>so much better is because the ship is real.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe nothing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. There's like layers of stuff going on on Ronnie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are through lines that just pop up year

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<v Speaker 2>after year. There's like there are relationships that are that

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<v Speaker 2>are more complex, the most scripted relationships you will ever

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<v Speaker 2>see on TV, like endlessly compelling. Like you you like

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It is just one of the best shows

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<v Speaker 2>of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>No, because Andrew is also the person that I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't like his takes on A Housewives.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you takes are now impacting my takes because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have a very good take, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can see that there's baggage from Andrew's takes bothering me.

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<v Speaker 2>If there were no Andrew you, if they had never

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<v Speaker 2>heard and just takes.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 6>I would always say rony.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>With Andrew, and this will be a good segue into

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing I want to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew watched Game of Thrones, which I actually really really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that show.

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<v Speaker 2>On tip like you said it as if like no

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<v Speaker 2>one really liked watching a Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like after Game of Thrones there was

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<v Speaker 1>just so much controversy based on the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there will be spoilers. So if you are in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of watching it, I'm telling you now.

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<v Speaker 3>There are spoiler alerts.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew over here watched Game of Thrones and intently until

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Wedding and stopped watching it after that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was good. What that was good? That was like

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<v Speaker 2>me with Breaking Bad. I watched like four seasons of

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<v Speaker 2>it and then I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's what it's up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Also it was okay, well it was I finished like

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<v Speaker 2>season four and I was like, okay, cool, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna step away for this from a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Gus got his face blown off, you watched

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<v Speaker 1>till the end of that, I don't remember who you

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<v Speaker 1>would remember?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Ben, he was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The season that I ended on was someone was in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital. What's his face was in the hospital? And

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<v Speaker 2>then no, no, I saw after that the wife found

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. Then it's the season after that She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want in on this. I think, was I watching

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<v Speaker 2>it get breaking bad? I want to talk about Ron again.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a point where she was like helping him

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<v Speaker 1>wash the money, like clean the money, but she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Still kind of like you thought was an affairs.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to get his.

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<v Speaker 3>Lung cancer taken out. She found the second phone she

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<v Speaker 3>got pissed off.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Gus the like the other person who had the

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<v Speaker 2>high voice. No, you know the guy who was like,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What you then? What were you watching?

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<v Speaker 1>Gus was the mastermind behind the Mexican cartel, the chicken restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's alive in my in my timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>Really missed a lot there.

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<v Speaker 2>I should I should finish it, Okay, I just the

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<v Speaker 2>same for.

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<v Speaker 3>Me a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Andrew got to the Red Wedding, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the most epic scenes of.

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<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones, fantastic TV, insane, and then he just

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<v Speaker 3>stopped watching it. He didn't want to watch anymore. He

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<v Speaker 3>has no idea how it ended.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, reason because it was just kind of like then

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<v Speaker 4>the fifth season started and they're like, oh, here's Cadacimir

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<v Speaker 4>and this is his cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>Like not even.

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<v Speaker 4>Gwendolyn and they it's just so many characters that I like,

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<v Speaker 4>I really thought I would need a notebook and with

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<v Speaker 4>like a chart, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can keep track of ten thousand housewives.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, because it's like, oh, this person's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Dolores from New Jersey. It's not like all Lady

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<v Speaker 4>Gwendevere of the House of the Targaris.

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<v Speaker 2>In six different realms, butchering Nate to be fair in

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<v Speaker 2>the Game of Thrones universe, and especially how's the dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>Their names all sound the same, which is very annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>I will give you that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that there's also multiple names for one person,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's you know, like Scenari's first of her name,

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<v Speaker 1>house of whatever, blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always like.

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<v Speaker 3>Mother of Dragons and they pick them up out takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like twenty minutes for them to just walk into a

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<v Speaker 2>room because they have so many names that they introduce.

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<v Speaker 1>It clearly also separates the thinkers from the non thinkers.

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<v Speaker 3>And here.

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<v Speaker 1>So Andrew stopped watching it after that, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything that I'm about to ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what were your thoughts on the way Game of

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<v Speaker 3>Thrones ended?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're running form.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could ruin it. I don't know it was

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't an well. First of all, I hated I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna ruin it all right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm totally coming one of the idiot kids becomes like

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<v Speaker 4>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, that Ran gets the iron thrown, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that. I've always hated brand. I always was

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<v Speaker 2>so useless, like the sickly, sickly kid who can see

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<v Speaker 2>the future. Fuck him. He just is annoying the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>People have to carry him around.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people killed in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets a lot of people killed, and then they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give the We'll give the West throws over Tim.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it should have been John Snow, right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like John Snow either. Okay, okay, he was annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, Why didn't Snow annoy you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's always moping around and like every man, he

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<v Speaker 2>did have a hard life, but like lighting up, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a good place now. He banished to the wall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was bashed the wall. And guess what. Guess where

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<v Speaker 2>he's not for a lot of the time, not at

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<v Speaker 2>the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>So thatshed and then he got killed and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he came back to life. Why are you not smiling? Okay,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>you should be so lucky. You have a lot of privilege, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>And half a dragon. Turns out he was half a dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>You can become half a dragon.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he was born that way you're born.

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<v Speaker 2>And lady really covers a lot of territory. Hello, I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot that he was half a dragon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, him and Denaries were related.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I knew that they were, like they were he

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<v Speaker 2>was like secret targarian, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why well not he so he was a

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<v Speaker 1>dragon from the House of the Dragon, right, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the dragon didn't freak out when he actually touched it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, while the dragons were mean to everybody else and.

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<v Speaker 2>Still not smiling. And he's riding a fucking dragon. He's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to bet a wall and so and like, here's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing, is that my favorite parts of Game

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<v Speaker 2>of Throne, my favorite settings of Game of Thrones. I

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<v Speaker 2>love being in the city and I like also the South.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Dorn and it's tropical confines.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful tan people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it's just like lovely and lush, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love being all around all the wealth of like King's

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<v Speaker 2>Landing or like I guess it, like the rich people

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<v Speaker 2>in King's Landing. I'm just like, I'm that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>guy who just like likes watching rich people on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you want the access to.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you have to watch John Snow, he's always north

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<v Speaker 2>of the wall in some cold area where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but like pine trees and skeletons, and like.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 3>That hated him because it was location.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like go somewhere else. He's always every okay, every

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<v Speaker 2>season it's like this, I think I know what I

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<v Speaker 2>have to do what is it, John? No, stay, let's

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>go to a tropical paradise. No, I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to North of the Wall. I'm like, you were just

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>you just were North of the Wall. Take care of

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it in one trip, and then go to Dorn. Go

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<v Speaker 2>to Like, go to Ess is so fancy. Why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we spend more time there?

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<v Speaker 3>These are all great questions. We should rewrite this, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, like John?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, No, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 5>It, John.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked John, but I've so. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>friend who hated the way Game of Thrones ended so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually liked the way it ended.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, I was not nearly as outraged

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>as the rest of the internet. I thought. I was like,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>it was fine, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So his argument is that it was very rushed. Long

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<v Speaker 1>story short, Andrew, here comes the ruining Diamond is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a foreignlanguage to you in general, Denaris, who

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<v Speaker 1>was our heroine through the entire thing, and you were

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>rooting for her and cheering for her. Yes, they kill

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>her best friend, chop her best friend's head off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, brutal.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>It was terrible.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Denara snaps and she takes her dragon and she burns

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<v Speaker 1>the city to the ground.

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<v Speaker 6>You're gonna kill Medaria.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what you're ning get away with.

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, she took that dragon and she burnt the ship

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to the ground, and they were ringing the truth bell,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the bell of like, hey, we're not We're not here

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to fight, We're just here to be cool.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Be cool.

0:29:58.200 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>If you hear this bell ring, don't do it.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>She heard that, she was like, fuck it, I'm riding

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>burn everything to the ground.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>See that sounds like a fun ending.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 3>It was great. And then plot to us.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know that through the whole on for a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time. I have to say, like it went

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>on for like forty five minutes of air time. I'm like, okay,

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a building fall down. This is like being

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<v Speaker 2>north of the wall.

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm so bored now.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>But also throughout the entire thing, she she had this

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>this air that she was the daughter of the mad King,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the guy who went crazy and snapped and they had

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<v Speaker 1>to kill him. So then she went crazy and snapped,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and John Snow, her lover and kind of cousin, kills her.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you want to watch it, don't you.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you kind of maybe got me on it. I

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like maybe all he kills her. So I think

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>here's my issue with the season that like one of

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the big existential threats of the entire series is winter

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>is coming and the White Walkers, which are like the

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>zombie kind of you know, you know, there's you know, yeah,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean you have to get to them. If you

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>watched like literally the first five seconds of the show,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw that, like you got through the HBO screen.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But they are coming, and so everything is like building

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>up to this confrontation. It's like, I guess the two

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>big questions are who's gonna take over the Iron Throne

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and what are we gonna do about these zombies? And

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>so like the zombie, the zombie situation is resolved by

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>episode three of six episode season eight episode.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Season it was I think it was sixty seven either.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Way, like zombies taking care of midway through.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, who knocked out the zombies? Aria?

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I liked her.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tia Aria gets the night King and they all dropped,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>even though.

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>She went through a sort of an annoying season of

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>being like in this weird.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Many faces, many faces, yes.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 2>But like the zombies, like it ends, and that to

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 2>me that felt a little like it felt very climactic,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and so then the fact that the show kind of

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>kept on going was like, oh, so like to me,

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>the season loss and steam from that. I didn't love

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that aspect structurally of the season, but like people lost

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>their minds and I don't think it was like.

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't that bad or I thought it was poetic.

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I liked it, you know what I here? So I

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have to say something, which is that my experience with

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the Game of Thrones I think was sort of unique

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>in that I hadn't watched any of it, and I

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>binged everything ahead of the final season, so I had

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>like a month where I was watching nothing but Game

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>of Thrones, And so for me, I would watch the

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>show and I watched you know, you just go season

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>after season after season. There's no downtime, so you're able

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to keep everything in your mind, you're able to track

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>everything but that But what's different is that what you

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>miss out on is that being part of that pop

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>culture experience of like a season ends and you spend

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a year being like, what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? And you build it

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>up and then a new season starts and you're so amped.

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>You're like at level twelve and you're so excited to

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.719
<v Speaker 2>see what's gonna happen, and so everything builds on it.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>So I can imagine after like eight years of that

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>or nine years, that you get to this final season

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's just built up so much in your brain

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that like, if it does not match these expectations, you're

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>going to lose your mind. Where it's for me, I

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, okay, Like I just watched the whole

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>thing right now, and so this is just marching on

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>with the show.

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of how it worked out for me too.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I had to actually purchase HBO because I had a

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>free HBO trial and that's when I started watching it,

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what the fuck is this? Oh

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, this show's amazing. And then it went away

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, all right, HBO, you got me.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 6>But I binged it all.

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think streaming in general has sort of ruined

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that aspect of any TV show. When they drop it

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>all at one time, even when they drop like half

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a show and then they wait to drop the second half,

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>people are outraged. How could you make me wait so long,

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but it does ruin it. I tried, you know what,

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why I hate Friends.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I like friends either High five Ben High five.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 3>So one, there was a lot you like that friends.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 5>I like Friends, But I think my roommate in college,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 5>she would turn it on every night before we went

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 5>to sleep, So I feel like it's like a comfort show.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just was worried. I was like, for some reason,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>like I feel like Diamond, you and I are always

0:33:58.320 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>so in sync with all of our takes, and I

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like today between Terresa and Salt Lake City, I

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't take another third. I can't take

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a third take where Diamond and I are not totally synchronized.

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So I tried to watch Friends, but I watched it

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>back to back to back, and one there was a

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of like physical humor in the beginning of it,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>which was probably like a huge thing in the mid nineties, Umbrella,

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>early nineties, whenever it was. I'm sure that was like

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a thing, but I was very bored by that. But

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>also the whole the Rows and Rachel arc because you're

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>watching it back to back to back, it was like

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>four episodes. It was very short when they were together,

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and then there was a break and then whatever happened,

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and then that shit carried on for the whole season,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>where when you're watching it really quickly, it was so fast. Yeah,

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Okay, everybody, shut up, get over this. But

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>if I was watching it maybe one episode at a

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>time and it was spread out over a month or

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>however long, I probably would have felt differently about it. Yeah,

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>but I find that show to be horrible.

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's like that funny. That's my shoe.

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not that funny. But I think that like with

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones. I read an article in the show

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 2>by the way Thrones to come to the year, I mean,

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>like the Bear. Yeah, you know what, if the Bear

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>could be a comedy, Game of Thrones could just be

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>slapstid for sure. It Actually Game of Thrones is kind

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of funny because there it is ridiculous some of the

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>things that happened. But Wesley Morris and The New York

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Times wrote an article and leading up to the final

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>season a Game of Throne saying same thing, like, I

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 2>binge this show. I watched it, I watched it all,

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. It was great, And he was like,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel like it's mine. He's like I

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 2>did not have to sit through years and years of

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 2>anticipation and waiting and going on the internet and prediction

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>reading predictions and what can happen? And like, I think

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>to be a true Game of Thrones fan, or not

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>to be a true Game of Thrones fan, but to

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>have had the full experience, you had to have really

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>waited and put in your time and soaked in every

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>single trailer and focus on every single frame. And like, yeah,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think the end. Like we just

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>binged it, and so we just had we had privilege,

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 2>we just could watch all it was. We had time,

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 2>privilege we had we could just watch it and enjoy it.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And with cool.

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a very good friend who truly wants to

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>unfront me because I said I liked the way it ended.

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>But as you were saying, well, you know, the other

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>thing is though, like I like, how's the Dragon? But

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it does make me reflect on how rich and how

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>like how multi layered Game of Thrones was, because like

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>how's the Dragon's good? But it's just not nearly as

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>like it does not have such a complete world as

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 2>as Game of Thrones.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>And I kind of know that good tropical environments.

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, honestly, we saw our first tropical environment this

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>past this past episode. I was like, why do we

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>have to wait two years to get to a tropical

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 2>there spent a lot of time in the cold and

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>house the dragon.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Actually that's all he cares about. I need sunshine, I

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>need tand bodies and.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>We can we have yeah, can we have a palm tree?

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 3>And John Snow smile.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, last question, and then I know you have to

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>go because you're to get on a plane. If you

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>could have picked somebody to rule at the end of

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones, who would it be?

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Who should have inherited the kingdom? Since you erroneously say

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>not John Snow.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, let's see. Maybe Brianna of Tarth. I always really

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>liked her because she could have sat, she could have

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>sat on the throne and then she could have like

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>trembled her her chin a little bit and she'd be like,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it doesn't It's like, Okay.

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>You just wanted somebody who's very humbles.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 2>The night the last night. Yes, I liked her.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere, yeah, sir Jamie.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And she's the one with the guy who got his

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 2>arm chopped off.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yes, Jamie.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Jamie, Sir Jamie, Yeah, got it, Jamie character.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you know what, I think you should finish

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>watching it because there's some really fun stuff that happens.

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's some really crazy started book.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I can't not finish a book. It's like a really

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>like so I almost feel that same way that the

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Game of Thrones book is just open and I'm like,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Need to finish it.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 4>But now, going in like almost three years later, I

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 4>will come over.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 3>And watch it with you, and when you have questions,

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the answer something.

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like a fun journey, like I think that like

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it's you know, like and like I do anticipate

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that I will finish Breaking Bad. It was like I didn't.

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say like, oh I'm done.

0:37:58.840 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even sure he started it.

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure either. I think I did, but I

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>could have just been watching an in commercial.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 3>It's just a trailer on it.

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>When he sold that that meat dehydrator, I was like, wow, diversifying.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.439
<v Speaker 3>This is crazy. Oh my gosh.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, is there anything you guys want to ask

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Ben before we let him go and catch a super No, I.

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Mean we'll chat later about packing cubes.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's fine.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait, okay, real quickly. You changed Andrew's life.

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 3>Please tell us how Andrew changed my life, said, no

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 3>one ever.

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I went on a trip to Europe and

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I was concerned about like what my under the seat

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>bag would be, and he was like, why don't you

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>get a Duffel And I was like, that's and then

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I started researching Duffles. I actually did not get a Duffel,

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>but it sent me down a path of underseat luggage

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 2>research and I wound up with this amazing Patagonia bag,

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the Mini MLC, and I love it. I love it

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>so and it has so much space and I was

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>able to bring back so many stupid Schokis from Europe

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and it fit under my seat and no one know,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>not not a single flight attendant or gate agent in

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Europe badter than I, because they're apparently very strict. And

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, it was just the most fun

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>ever researching that bag and then finally getting it.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Have you brought Patagonia on to be one of the

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>sponsors of your podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>I would become like a full on Patagonian influencer, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I could also be on Roney.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my gosh, they should let some guys on there.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like they And I learned packing cubes from

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<v Speaker 4>Ben because I was he was talking about the importance

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<v Speaker 4>of packing cubes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm a new packing cube convert, and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes the tubes.

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to go to Japan for two full

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<v Speaker 4>weeks with like full wardrobe inside of my carry on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was insane. I did. I did Europe for

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks packing cubes. I mean, I had to do laundry,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it still was you know, life. It was enough. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>well this.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be really important for us because we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>take a trip together, the three of us and Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>We are headed out west.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do Yellowstone, Grand Teton, and Glacier National Parks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond and I were talking about, like what kind of luggage.

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<v Speaker 7>Are you bringing bringing?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is it going to be carry on or are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to bring like a full suitcase.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you guys camping or plating at a hotel?

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<v Speaker 4>We call it off the grade, but really we're inside

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<v Speaker 4>a hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>It is very much on the rid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got for bears.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh A lot about this now.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody is saying, like lookout for him, not just like

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<v Speaker 5>oh you'll see one, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Like look out diamond though.

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<v Speaker 1>In all of my research, and we know a bear doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll call her.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and all the things that I've ever read about bears,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember a story where a bear attacked a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people. So I feel like as long as

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<v Speaker 1>the four of U state together will look bigger to

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<v Speaker 1>the bear and it'll probably go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you say, you know what, excuse me bear? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we our radio personalities and whatever you do us people

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<v Speaker 2>will know about it. So think twice.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that will be very effective. Yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 3>did figure out our packing situation, so I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, packing cubs will be great. You'll really like you're

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be surprised at how effected they are and creating

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<v Speaker 2>space in your bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Packing cubes and Patagonia. If you're listening, come on

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah say the live part? Uh no, actually don't. Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Cohen has his Watch What happens live ours just Watchro Crappins.

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<v Speaker 2>We do live shows, but we just we just stick

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<v Speaker 2>with Watchro Crappins.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So if people want to find you, how do

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<v Speaker 3>they find you?

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<v Speaker 2>I personally am at benmandel Kerr on Instagram and then

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<v Speaker 2>our podcast is at Watch with Crap. It's on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>and the podcast is available on any podcast, plapforge, iHeart Radio,

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<v Speaker 2>including specifically iHeart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, thank you also, guys, because we're definitely going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to wrap it up without asking me anything

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. If you want to find you, Diamond, where

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<v Speaker 1>will they find you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh at Diamond sincere on Instagram, Andrew at Andrew Punk.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to change your So can I win? Can

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<v Speaker 3>I win?

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<v Speaker 2>Roasted every day? I you can? I win every day?

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<v Speaker 1>And on that know, everybody said bye bye