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Speaker 1: This is the OTP. I'm Amy Wells. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. We are joined by coach mac

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Speaker 1: Rett Brian, our resident draft gurus. And I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: you guys, as we are getting closer and closer to

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Speaker 1: the draft, we are going to start doing a lot

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Speaker 1: more position previews, starting to really dive into who these

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Speaker 1: players are, what they look like, both on and off

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Speaker 1: the field. And it occurred to me that we use

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Speaker 1: a lot of very interesting, very specific language to describe

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Speaker 1: people throughout the draft. There's a lot of terminology, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of phrases, there's a lot of maybe comparisons

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Speaker 1: or analogies that we use that you pretty much never

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Speaker 1: ever used to describe a human in polite conversation, don't,

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Speaker 1: and so you just don't. And nobody in the world

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Speaker 1: does it better than coach Mac. Mac has the best

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Speaker 1: just vocabulary of descriptive terms and phrases. So I figured

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Speaker 1: we should all get together here for the ot people

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Speaker 1: so that they are prepared for all of the draft

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Speaker 1: coverage that is to come. And let's define some of

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Speaker 1: these macisms. Let's really get into what these things mean.

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Speaker 1: Are you down, Mac, Yeah, I mean it's plain English.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it is. It's completely plain English.

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Speaker 3: There's plain English involved with the English words, right, And

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Speaker 3: I know what Max saying. It's with the way things

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Speaker 3: are described by people in football evaluation that describe what

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Speaker 3: a player is. But then there's also West Texas coach

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Speaker 3: Dave McGinnis flavors on his own lingo.

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Speaker 2: In which again we speak English in West Texas. Rat. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I would just talking about talking to Amy about goat roping.

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Speaker 2: She says she's never been to a goat roping and

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Speaker 2: a rattlesnake round up. I'm gonna have to take her

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Speaker 2: to West Texas.

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Speaker 3: We're just trying to get people to understand Mac. Ease, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I have prepared a list of common mac phrases.

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Speaker 1: It is alphabetized for your convenience. And I say, we

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Speaker 1: just go back and forth and get Mac to describe

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Speaker 1: what these words. Give us a definition of what these

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Speaker 1: words and phrases.

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Speaker 3: Mean, just like he would do a thumb nail description

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Speaker 3: of a player exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Mac, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's go. I like this.

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Speaker 1: So if somebody is a good anchor, what does.

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Speaker 2: That mean you're talking about somebody basically on the offensive

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Speaker 2: from the defensive front. And an anchor means when you're

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Speaker 2: getting to charge ahead of you that you can set

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Speaker 2: hold your ground and you can reset. Now the way

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Speaker 2: that they do that, some people do anchor just by

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Speaker 2: pure mass. Some people do anchor by the ability of

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Speaker 2: their lower body to have explosion and extension. But the

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Speaker 2: anchor part comes with its lower body strength, but it's

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Speaker 2: also lower body strength being able to hold your position,

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Speaker 2: whether it's offensively or defensively, and most of it's on

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Speaker 2: the front. Now, it can involve linebackers. When you call

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Speaker 2: about set the edge, I don't know if you have

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Speaker 2: set the edge in there in pure English. But you've

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Speaker 2: got to be able. You've got to be able to

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Speaker 2: hold your ground. And that's why at the combine they

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Speaker 2: measure the broad jump and they measure the vertical jump

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Speaker 2: because that's the lower body flex and that's a lower

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Speaker 2: body power.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm so glad we're doing this. Raret take the

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Speaker 1: next one.

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Speaker 3: When a player has bend or lean.

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Speaker 2: Bend or lean, and most of the band starts from

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Speaker 2: the knees, down. And it also when you're looking for

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Speaker 2: players that are either going to have to turn the

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Speaker 2: going to have to change direction. It's not only the

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Speaker 2: bend at the at the in the in the knees,

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Speaker 2: and you've got to have you've got to have an

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Speaker 2: athletic bend at the knees. It's also the flex of

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Speaker 2: the ankles. The flex of the ankles. The ankles are

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Speaker 2: extremely important because Jerrell Casey is a grit for for

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Speaker 2: all of O T people. That was one of Jerrell

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Speaker 2: Casey's biggest attributes, huge attribute because Jerrell Casey, you know,

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Speaker 2: height wise, did was not you know the measure that

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Speaker 2: you you look at when you when Jerrell Casey was

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Speaker 2: if you just saw him in street clothes, you'd say, well,

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Speaker 2: you know this is a big guy, but he's not.

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Speaker 2: But his lower body flex, especially his ankle flex was

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Speaker 2: was elite. He could, he could, he could he could

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Speaker 2: flatten out quickly. If I'm coming this way and Rhett

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Speaker 2: is a quarterback here at his launch point. The lower

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Speaker 2: body flex for these guys that they've got to be

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Speaker 1: So sometimes you refer to that as a motorcycle lien.

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Speaker 1: Is that the same kind of concept where they're able

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Speaker 2: Now, see now you're talking, you're talking it. The motorcycle

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Speaker 2: you ever watched a motorcycle race, when they when they

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Speaker 2: they bend and that's why they've got those pads on

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Speaker 2: wind resistance around the curve and still stay on their

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Speaker 2: a lot like a runner, you know running you know

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Speaker 2: in the four hundred meters that have to run the curve.

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Speaker 2: You've got guys that are great relay runners, that are

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Speaker 2: that are the stretch runners, and then you've got guys

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Speaker 2: that can that can run the curve, can lean the

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Speaker 2: curve without losing forward momentum, but also without without losing

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Speaker 2: any speed. The motorcycle bend for edge is a huge

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Speaker 2: thing that that is something that you look for and

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Speaker 2: a lot of that is God given that motorcycle lean.

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Speaker 2: When you go to the combine or you're watching the

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Speaker 2: combine on television, when they run that figure eight hoop

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Speaker 2: drill and lay the towels down, you might wonder, how

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Speaker 2: does that relate. I mean, Jim Washburn, who was a

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Speaker 2: longtime defensive line coach here, was the guy that put

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Speaker 2: that into the combine drills. He put it into the

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Speaker 2: combine drills because that's what he wanted to see. Not

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Speaker 2: only could a guy run the hoop, but he put

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Speaker 2: the towel into it where he had they had to

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Speaker 2: reach down and bend because that's where the lien came in.

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Speaker 2: And it was a great, great innovation by Jim Washburn

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Speaker 2: because then you not only could see I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: easy to run the hoop straight up and down, but

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Speaker 2: you're never straight up and down when you're running the

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Speaker 2: edge to go after a quarterback. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, and I mean it seems like that's one

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Speaker 1: understanding that, oh that's why they do that. That makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. It's very transferable to football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: another one, when you say that somebody looks like a

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Speaker 1: dog or worse, a puppy in traffic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, there's a difference. Okay a dog.

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Speaker 2: A dog is a dude that no matter what is happening,

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Speaker 2: they're imposing their will. That's a dog. Now someone that

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Speaker 2: looks like you just set a puppy out of a

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Speaker 3: Glad no animals were harmed in the filming of this OTP.

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Speaker 2: And there's nobody there's nobody that loves dogs more than

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Speaker 2: I do. But if you've ever and again I mean

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Speaker 2: I'd been in the country with a lot of dogs

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Speaker 2: in the city, but we used to do all the time,

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Speaker 2: and that dog, ever either jumped out when the truck

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Speaker 2: you know, because they'd like to run around, and they

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Speaker 2: first thing they start doing is just spinning because they

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Speaker 2: then they're just they're they're they're spinning without going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's what I talk about when you look at you

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Speaker 2: look at players, that they're their spatial awareness of what's

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Speaker 2: happening on the field. They're they're disoriented, they're lost, they're lost,

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Speaker 2: they just can't find their way.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: When a player is fluid, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: The two things that you don't want in your description

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Speaker 2: want stiff, because this game is played in short burst.

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Speaker 2: It's short, violent, quick burst. And if you're fluid, if

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Speaker 2: you can transition from start to stop and you don't

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Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of wasted motion. If you're ever,

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Speaker 2: if you're ever having to to to transition like a

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Speaker 2: defensive back from back to up. If the the lack

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Speaker 2: of wasted motion, then someone has fluidity. In other words,

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Speaker 2: they're flowing, they're flowing through the process, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: If you're stiff or if you're segmented. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you have segmented down there, but segmented means it

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Speaker 2: takes you a while. I mean, it's like you're grinding coffee.

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Speaker 2: It takes you a while to get started one way

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Speaker 2: or the other. I mean, you know, if you say,

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Speaker 2: if I'm they're sitting there watching tape with you, Amy,

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Speaker 2: and I go, that guy's grinding a lot of coffee

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Speaker 2: right there, you know, it means you know, it's really hard.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to make that movement. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. What about foot or horseback?

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Speaker 2: All right? For the horseback is this and and this

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Speaker 2: is something that's really that's really easy. You're either riding

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Speaker 2: gotten thrown off and you're walking. Okay, So if you

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Speaker 2: don't know whether you're foot no horseback, you're completely lost.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: People have heard you for years talk about a player

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Speaker 3: that is a gidget gadget player. What is a gidget

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Speaker 3: gadget player?

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Speaker 2: Gidget gadget are mostly smaller players. Smaller players that can

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Speaker 2: move really really quick in a short area. They may

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Speaker 2: not have the requisite size that goes with the position.

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Speaker 2: They may not have the requisite strength that goes with

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Speaker 2: the position, but they are so quick and and and

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Speaker 2: And now mostly when you talk about gidget gadget dudes,

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Speaker 2: you're either talking about receivers because they you're talking about

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Speaker 2: players that operate in space, but you're also talking about

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Speaker 2: players that can snap ankles, in other words, make the

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Speaker 2: defender think they're going one way and snap them off.

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Speaker 2: And that's just you know that that is being that's

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Speaker 2: a gidget gadget dude. That is a short area quick

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Speaker 2: elite player.

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Speaker 1: What if somebody has a good GPS to the ball.

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Speaker 2: Well, GPS, I mean we've all figured you know, that

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Speaker 2: just means you know where you're going. You can you

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Speaker 2: can you know where you're going your zero rode in

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Speaker 2: on the ball, you can track in. It's just like

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Speaker 2: putting in the GPS on your car when you're getting

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Speaker 2: ready to go on a trip. It tells you exactly

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Speaker 2: where you're going. You don't even have to think about it.

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Speaker 2: A GPS player doesn't have to think about it. He's

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Speaker 2: always going to the right spot. And most of the

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Speaker 2: time you're talking about a defensive player because what they

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Speaker 2: have to do is find the football. Some guys can

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Speaker 1: A problem, all right, Mac. This is one that you

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Speaker 2: We're sitting there watching tape, the three of us together,

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Speaker 3: On, making declarative statements about players. Yeah, is the best

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Speaker 3: he is. We don't I don't think we know that

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Speaker 2: It takes research and I E. I mean I was

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Speaker 3: And you took it to heart and you lived.

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Speaker 2: You can have a defensive back that may have exceptionally

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Speaker 1: to the OTP. We're getting Coach Mack to define some

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Speaker 1: This one's a really strong one. Oily hips. What are

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Speaker 2: All right? Think about it. You're running your car engine, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if it runs out of oil, how does it run?

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Speaker 2: Okay, not good? Not good. I know you've probably done

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know you have, so I'll just let

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Speaker 2: the OT people know that. So if you don't have

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Speaker 2: You've got you've got good movement, and changing direction has

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Speaker 1: So oily hips are good, really good. You want oily.

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Speaker 2: Heads, you want you want oil in your engine.

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Speaker 1: You want oil in your engine.

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Speaker 3: They want the football field and the dance floor. According

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Speaker 2: If you're never seen anybody win dancing with the stars

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Speaker 1: True, that's true.

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Speaker 3: True. What about a player that you say is more

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Speaker 2: It's it's so much why the wave drill, the shuffle

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Speaker 2: That see Old Ricado, who is an oilers entight legend

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Speaker 2: We're working, we're working right here. How fast does it

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Speaker 3: All right, we've heard this term for years and it's

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Speaker 2: And he scratched them off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 1: We gows you're pressing.

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Speaker 2: You know what impresses me or not not impresses me.

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Speaker 2: It kind of humbles me that y'all been listening all

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Speaker 3: Would we try?

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Speaker 3: What is a tweener?

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Speaker 2: That's when your position you're not quite sure because of

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Speaker 2: Great example threet one hundred percent. It's a one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: What if a guy is willing to throw his face

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Speaker 2: This guy seeks contact because this is not a collision sport.

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Speaker 2: in their movement. They're not saying, oh, that looks like

434
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Speaker 2: a collision maybe, oh not, oh no, please, No, they're

435
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Speaker 2: willing to throw their face in the fire, and they're

436
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: willing to go. I mean, it's like a fireman and

437
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: those people, those guys that run into the fire, even

438
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: though you know it's it's something that's very dangerous. Throwing

439
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: your face in the briar patch as a football player

440
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: means that you are that that part of the game

441
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: doesn't intimidate you, and a lot of times that separates players.

442
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's when you hear somebody over the years

443
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: talking about this player plays with reckless abandon That's what

444
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: that is. Yeah, they're going into the action constantly. Firefighter

445
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: was a great example, because they're going to the fire

446
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: to put it out while everyone else getting away from

447
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: the fire.

448
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: And again it's against human nature. I mean, you know,

449
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: when you first start playing, I mean, you know, just

450
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: go run as fast as you can into that human

451
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: A big human.

452
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, big scary human. Right.

453
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: This this term has used a lot when we're talking

454
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Speaker 3: about offensive tackles. What does it mean when you're called

455
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: a waste bender?

456
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: That's that's the worst thing you can be when you're playing.

457
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: It all goes back to flex. It all goes back

458
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: to playing with leverage. That's the way offensive linemen get

459
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: in trouble the quickest. If you just if you'll just

460
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: think of the dynamics of the human body. If you

461
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: want to move and you want to move quickly, or

462
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: if you want to shadow something and stay with you

463
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: need you need to have good flex from your hips,

464
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: from your knees, from your ankles. If you are trying

465
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: to keep stay in front of somebody, if you bend

466
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: at the waist here, think what happens. First of all,

467
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: your knees lock out. Your lower body becomes Now now

468
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: you're not spring loaded your board, your lower bodies. Your

469
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: lower bodies are two by four, and you lose all

470
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: your power because you you never have any power like this.

471
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: Think of anything that you want to do physically, especially

472
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: in I mean, start with a martial arts or anything else.

473
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: There's nothing you do like this because when you bend

474
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: at the waist, you also do what you lower your head.

475
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: You lower your head and so I mean you look

476
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: like one of those little toys that that you know

477
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: with a bird that sticks his head. That's beacon that

478
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: glass of water and raising back up, beacon the water

479
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: raising back up. That's a wastebender. You're not going to

480
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: move very many people doing that?

481
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: Is it typically? Uh? That that ear mark uh? Typically

482
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: with taller tackles.

483
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, OK, But you can be a wastebender no

484
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: matter no matter what if if see being able to

485
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: stay in a in a in a power position is

486
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: something that you learn very quickly. If you've ever watched

487
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: you know, just watching offensive line coach, a lot of

488
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: times they just start with stance. Now, not only stance,

489
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: not only I'm not talking about their hand on the

490
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: ground stance. I'm talking about stances with the lower body

491
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: flex we're talking about and and don't bend. Don't don't.

492
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: If you've bend at the waist to go after somebody

493
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: like this, you lose them because now what have they got?

494
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: They got you know a lot of things that are going on.

495
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: If you've ever seen wrestlers, you very seldom see wrestlers

496
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: because they've been their head and they do like this,

497
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: then the first thing to do, Yeah, so that's what a

498
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: wastebender it don't be a wastebender.

499
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: The final one that I feel we need to throw

500
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: in just to make sure that all the OT people

501
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: are up to date on what all these terms mean,

502
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: because the number one term you hear out of Coach

503
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: Max's mouth more than anything else, and we've heard some

504
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: of these a lot of times.

505
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: Sure.

506
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: The number one thing, ladies and gentlemen, keep your powder dry.

507
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: Don't panic, don't panic, don't panic. And it comes from

508
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: back in the days, you know, when the musket loader

509
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: was something that was really important if you were having

510
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: any kind of conflict in war. It always involved putting

511
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: the ball in the putting it down, but you had

512
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: to you had to put powder with it. And if

513
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: the powder ever got wet, the gun didn't fire. And

514
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: if the gun didn't fire, whoever was coming after you

515
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 2: with bad intentions you had a problem. Yeah, So don't panic,

516
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: take care of your business before you go into the fray,

517
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: and keep your powder dry. Don't panic. Don't panic. And

518
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: that's something that people have a hard time with, not

519
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, panicking and being an ie go a lot together.

520
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: They're in the same neighborhood.

521
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: We're hearing, Rhett, how many times have you been told,

522
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: we'll say this week to keep your powder dry.

523
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd say a couple by coaching.

524
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when I first came here. You know,

525
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: red rat's pretty powdered dry dude. I mean he he doesn't,

526
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't. There's not a lot of panic in rets game.

527
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: Not a lot of panic in rets game. I can

528
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: I can say that.

529
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I get told it like three times a day.

530
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: Well we're talking about a different human now, Wow, I.

531
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Get it all the time. What am I jumpy?

532
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: I think some people are sitting on go more than others.

533
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think so.

534
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: Mine comes from and listen, it's we're all human and

535
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: it's tested every day depending on what happens. Life throws

536
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: stuff at you, at your job, whatever. But mine comes

537
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: from being an old boy scout be prepared. I just

538
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 3: try to be prepared.

539
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: I drink a lot of coffee. Anything's possible.

540
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: There it is.

541
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm a loose cannon.

542
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: There, you go write that down for.

543
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: You, you know, Mac. Listening to you talk about all

544
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: of these things, it is very interesting how much physics

545
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: you have to understand as an evaluator of athletes, how

546
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: much human anatomy you have to understand as an evaluator

547
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: of athletes, Like, there are so many things that go

548
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: into this other than good football player yes or no.

549
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: And so we laugh about this terminology because some of

550
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: it sounds kind of silly, but in all seriousness, these

551
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: are very descriptive, easy ways to understand some pretty complex

552
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: things that you're trying to describe, and that has to

553
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: be helpful in a draft room.

554
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's I mean, I've been in I've

555
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: been in legitimate draft rooms, draft preparation. You know thirty

556
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: one years that I coach in this league, and this

557
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: is the way you talk. This is the way you

558
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: talk when you're writing a report, and your report. They

559
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: are not looking for a lot of as I tell Rhett,

560
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: they don't want the Charles Dickens part of it. I

561
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: don't need a lot. I need a lot of work.

562
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: I need things to describe this player really quick, and

563
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: I need I need I need points, counterpoints, good, bad.

564
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: And the longer that you're in it, I mean, the

565
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: more you I mean this. I didn't make any of

566
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: these up, all of them. I mean, there's a lot

567
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: of these come from a lot of these you know,

568
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: come from you know, playing ball from high school on

569
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: up and having and listening and having coaches tell me,

570
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: and you know it, don't be a wastebender or coaches.

571
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, you know all those things. But in a

572
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: draft room, you're a one hundred percent right, I mean,

573
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: you're it's not you're still you are still trying to evaluate,

574
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: but you're evaluating traits and and you try to because

575
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: everybody's got good and bad traits. And then you try

576
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: to you try to describe them, and then you try

577
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: to weigh them because you're never to have anybody that's

578
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 2: got all pluses, and if somebody's got all minuses, then

579
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: you're not going to talk about them very long. Yeah,

580
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: that's just the way it works.

581
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,560
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Speaker 1: the OTP. Well, thank you for playing along with my game.

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Speaker 3: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: I hope it was helpful to the ot people. I

592
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Speaker 1: hope that you guys got a little better idea of

593
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: some of the things we're talking about. Some of the

594
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: concepts we're trying to explain and describe, but also some

595
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: of it's just kind of funny, and we've got to

596
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: lean into that too. I always like a funny way

597
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: of describing people. So for Coach Mac, who does not

598
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: have oily hips, or maybe he does have oily hips,

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00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Oily is good so oily hips, and is not a

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Speaker 1: dog in traffic. Coach Mac, he is not an I

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Speaker 1: E and his powder is always dry. And Rhett Brian,

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Speaker 1: I'm Amy Wells and this has been the O T P.