1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Friday, The Jason Smith Show with 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: My Base frid Mike Harmon, Hobo. Have you ever wiped 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: with a piece of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: this as good as it gets? It's not switched to 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: life changing Wet extra large flushable Dude wipes because wet 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: or just clean's better. Available at Amazon and at major 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: retailers nationwide. Dudewipes best clean pants down. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: Well. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no football this weekend, but it doesn't matter. We 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: are leading up to the biggest NBA game of the 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: last decade. Nicks Lakers. The Knicks went in a blowout tonight. 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: The Lakers win in a blowout tonight. Mike Harmon, last 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I checked most expensive tickets since Kobe Bryant's finale I 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: mean maybe Nicks Lakers is bigger than the super Bowl. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: I mean it might be when it's all said and done. 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: You never know, at. 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: Least for a moment, in this moment in time, in 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: your universe, Earth, whatever number you ascribed to it. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I had at the. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: Trade deadline, where both teams are expected to do something 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: even if it's wrong. We've got that going for us, 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: and let's face it, eventually you have to move past 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: the Bill Belichick story and find something else to shout 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: about and chase Windmills down. 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 5: So here we are Nicks and Lakers. Why not? 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, any other writers say anything today? 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: No? 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: No writers? Okay, so they all think it's spygate and 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: hate the guy. Got it all right, We're good. 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 6: Hey. 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: Lebron was sad or not crying the other day. I 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: think on some level he watched a little interview clip 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: that Damon did where he was stolen praise upon the 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: Rock for the smashing Machine, and there's a there's a 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 4: scene in the hospital where where he starts to cry 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: and he raises the hospital blanket. 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: Over his eyes. 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: That's kind of what Lebron did when he was sitting 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: there waiting on you know, the tribute to finish, everybody 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: get my good side. And then he's got a documentary 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: crew following him this whole time. It's all Pho gayzy, 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: but it'll give us good theater good this weekend. 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: This will be the last time James suits up as 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: a Laker to play in Madison, to see what I 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: did there, See what I did there as a Laker 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: to play at MSG. Tickets were like eight hundred bucks 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: a piece. Now they've come down a little bit in 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, but you know this is like, 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: this is the most expensive regular season ticket game. I 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: mean since Kobe's last game, right, going all the way 59 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: back to Kobe that Jackson. That's the demand to see 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: this NBA Finals preview. 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 6: You do know Autin Reeves is coming back, right. 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's why that's why, that's why the price is 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: so high, because Reeves is coming in. 64 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 6: That's why you're gonna wear an aw Yeah. 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: So if you want to sit courtside, you're getting up 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: into a couple of thousand dollars. If you just want 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: to get in right now, you're under four hundred, yeah, 68 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: which is less than going to see Harry. 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 6: Smile to lose. That's a good price. 70 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Hey, and you never know. Every game you see could 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: be Karl Anthony Towns his last game as a Nick 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: before he's traded for you honest, So you never know. 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: You never know when that's the last one. Although if 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: he keeps pulling down twenty rebounds a night like he's 75 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: done the last few nights since the honest trade rumors 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: came out, hey, maybe he's gonna get to stay. Because 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The last few nights, the Knicks 78 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: have won three in a row. Karl Anthony Towns has 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: not been the offensive quote force, but the Knicks have 80 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: been better defensively. He's pulling down twenty rebounds a game. 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: The scoring load is going more Josh hart And and Unobi 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: in support of Jalen Brunson. Maybe the Knicks have figured 83 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: something out him, Maybe they have look out. 84 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: It always goes back to the old Arnold Schwarzenegger philosophy 85 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: always worked a balance in definition. In this case, work 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: to balance. You need to be a heavyweight in terms 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: of the scoring column. Actually do something there, and then 88 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: when they try to assign some sort of valuation for 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: your defensive work in the game, make sure there's a 90 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: positive coefficient there. 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, positive coefficients always good. Negative coefficients not good, not. 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: Good, And that's one to grow on. 93 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: So while we wait for this Titanic game that's going 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: to just completely outdo the Super Bowl, because I mean, like, like, 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: why wouldn't it. You want a great and crazy basketball 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: headline that you are good that has become this big 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: headline Friday night and you think there's no way this 98 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: can happen. Uh, just wait, just wait. Maybe you know 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the name Amari Bailey. Maybe you don't, but former UCLA 100 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: standout went to the NBA after his freshman year a 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, was drafted in the second round 102 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: and didn't see a lot of time with the Charlotte Hornets. 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: He played in ten games during his rookie year. But 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: he's a second round pick, so you know, he's an 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: two way deal. He's gonna play a little bit with 106 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the team, a little bit in the G League. That's 107 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. Now, he did spend two years 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: in the G League and he was cut over the summer. Okay, 109 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: So why is Amari Bailey suddenly a name on everybody's 110 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: lips Because he has hired an agent and a lawyer 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to fight for wait for it, wait for it, wait 112 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: for it, NCAA eligibility with hopes of joining a college 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: team to play one more season. That's right. He wants 114 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: to go from the pros back to college. He wants 115 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: to be a real life Rodney Dangerfield back to school. Example. Hey, 116 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, finding it you don't know 117 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the first thing about your writing. He wants to go 118 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: back to school to play one more season. Now to 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: hear Bailey talk about, he gave a statement to ESPN 120 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: he said, look right now, I'd be a senior in college. 121 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be twenty seven years old playing 122 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: college athletics. Not what I want to do. Other guys 123 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: want to do that. That's great, but I think he should. 124 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: I should be able to go back and hey, and 125 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: I want to play one more year. I want to 126 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: show what I can do and go back in the 127 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: drafting it back into the NBA. And already I have 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: seen blanketly across the board. No way, no way, no way, no, 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: you go pro. You forfeit your eligibility. You're not going back. No, no, no, 130 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: no no. And I just want to say this, are 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: you sure this isn't going to happen, because I can 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: absolutely see this happening. Right. We are eroding the student 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: part of student athlete every day, right, every day, nil 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: transfer being able to play immediately. The last few years 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: has just been this is not student athlete anymore. Right, So, 136 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: if you're eroding the student part of it, why is 137 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: this a hard line? We have shown this age we 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: are in now in the world, but specifically in college athletics. 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: In the world, there's no rules in anything anymore. You 140 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: don't like something, you can just decide I'm not gonna 141 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: abide by it and I'm gonna wait and what are 142 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: you going to do to me? 143 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: Right? 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: And college sports has been the same thing. Wait a minute, 145 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: we can't do this in college Why can't we We 146 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: can change the rules in college football and college basketball 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: whenever we want it. We don't need to subscribe to 148 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: a hard line. Why should we do that? And if 149 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you are now paying players and players are getting ten 150 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: to eleven million dollars, especially in college football, to go play, 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: what's going to stop a judge? What's going to stop 152 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: a case to say, hey, uh, why not? Right? Because 153 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I could see a judge saying a certain amount of 154 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: pro experience isn't an advantage over other people that are 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: playing at that level if it's a small amount, and 156 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: as long as he's within his normal eligibility, yes he 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: can go back to school if he goes pro and 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: he plays it doesn't play a certain amount of time 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: and he wants to go back to school and he's 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: within his freshman to senior year of what his normal 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: eligibility would be, Yes, you can go back to college. 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Now it would open up a whole can of stuff 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: in college sports. But do you really think that? Can 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: you really think in an age when we again this 165 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: line is being eroded, Why is this line suddenly we 166 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: can't cross. I can easily see that ruling coming out 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: that you were then your your regular eligibility of five 168 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: years whatever you want to say, four or five years, 169 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and you don't play a certain number of games in 170 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the pros kind of like you can keep your eligibility 171 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: if you don't play a certain amount of games in 172 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: college football. Right, you can see you can still, Hey, 173 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I want to keep my one year of eligibility. I 174 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: played in four games this year. They want to up 175 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: that for next year, so hey, you get to preserve 176 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: your eligibility. Playing less than four games in a year, 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you can red shirt and play again. Isn't that? Isn't that? 178 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, something that might be a little bit unfair, 179 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: but we allow that to happen. I can see this happening, 180 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. I know everybody is out. No, no, no, 181 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: no no, but just look at the world we live in. 182 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I can see him winning this, and I can see 183 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: college sports changing again after this ruling comes down. 184 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: Well, it's continuing in the theme. Think of the sanctity 185 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: the ours. 186 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 5: What have you done? 187 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: You've eroded the sanctity of this institution of this game. 188 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 5: It's gone. Okay, Tradition has. 189 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: Been blown out the door. It has been. 190 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: Torn asunder and filed somewhere else. It's shoveled in the 191 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: backyard and covered up with a nice rose bed. At 192 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: this point, all the things you remember, right usc Notre Dame, 193 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 4: all these rivalry games, all of these historical kickoff classics, 194 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: all of that, it's gone. 195 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: Bowl system for basketball. 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: We keep expanding the tournament, we keep creating new and 197 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: exciting ways to try to market the game, changing up 198 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: the television partners, changing up all of those things. Conferences 199 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: are now twenty large like it doesn't matter anymore. And 200 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: the student athlete thing, let me tell you, with the 201 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: exception of a select few schools, and then we start 202 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: looking at D two, d D three and the service academies, 203 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: there's a lot of shoulder shrugging. I mean, remember the 204 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: Carson question and answer that he had ahead of the 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: National title game. Hey, how'd you do in your classes 206 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: this week? 207 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Lady? 208 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: I've been graduating for two years. What are you doing now? 209 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 5: I don't play video games hanging out with my girlfriend. 210 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's done. And when you. 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: Talk about the billions of dollars that are transacted and 212 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: raised by each of these institutions, I'm not saying you 213 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: have to like it. I'm not saying that you don't 214 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: stand on the mountaintop with a little singular tier dripping 215 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: down your cheek. It happens. But the reality is the 216 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: door has been open. Nausey did this right. While he 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: didn't play ten games in the NBA like Bailey did 218 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: in the twenty three to twenty four season, he still 219 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: had his rights owned by your Nicks in the process. 220 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: And all of this to say that we've already eroded this, 221 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 4: that Lion has been erased. I mean you keep moving 222 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: the line to where you can't even see it anymore, 223 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: or some derivation of that from the friends line from 224 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: Chandler Bing from so many years ago. 225 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it can fight it. 226 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: But he's gonna go into the court and they're gonna say, hey, 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: will he help the school make more money? Yeah, it 228 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: doesn't help his life. Yes, what are we fighting about? 229 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Justin Frosburg has big news coming in right here. This 230 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: is news only from Fox Sports Radio involving this story. 231 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Justin Frosburg. We've just been doing this for about five minutes. 232 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: What do you have for us, man, Yeah, this just 233 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 6: in Carmelo Anthony back to Syracuse. 234 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: All right, well we're making the tournament, man, we are 235 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: making the tournament now. 236 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, another piece for me. You had another guy 237 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 5: going back to. 238 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 6: School, Lebron to duke. 239 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron finally after all these years. 240 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,359 Speaker 5: Hit rewind. 241 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh telling you, man, I'd love to see it. Oh Man, 242 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Mellow going back playing with his kid back to Sere. 243 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Mello's got three years. He's got three years. Yeah, I 244 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: mean he's a little bit older. I mean, you know, 245 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: maybe that would be a little bit of a sticky wicket. 246 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: But he's got three years left, why not? Why not 247 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: do it that? Let him go, Let him go. 248 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 4: But I just let Jason. Like we talk about all 249 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: of these different institutions. We talked about the Pro Football 250 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame voting that now they're they're shuffling. They 251 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 4: just changed their by laws and processes, and they'll probably 252 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: do it again as a backlash to the one year 253 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: rule now for coaches and what it does, uh, and 254 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: the way these candidates were looked at right, three players, 255 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: a coach, and a contributor. All of these things are 256 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: are subject to change. You know, whichever the way the 257 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: wind blows fiercest, you lick your fingers, stick it up 258 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: and say yeah that way, and then you bounce back 259 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: the other way. 260 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I mean you think this can't happen, 261 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: Watch watch it. If we weren't in the in a 262 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: time in life where rules are just like a do 263 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: we really need to follow the rules? I don't know 264 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: that we do. We're college sports. We can do any 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: whatever the hell we want to. I'm not what do. 266 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: I worried about rules and stuff. 267 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: I worried about other conference again. 268 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: I worried about play is good for the company to go. 269 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: All the commissioners stood in line, going gambling is bad. 270 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere near Las Vegas. How dare you? 271 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Hey? 272 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: Here's Lebron James and Kevin Hart with another ad to 273 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: sell me on a parlay. 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Well, 318 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: when you are on the eve of the eve of 319 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the biggest NBA regular season game in a decade, Well, 320 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: when those teams are gonna tee it up on Sunday 321 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: at MSG, well, you guys both get to be the 322 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: play of the day once again, just dominating the player, dominating. 323 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 8: All. 324 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Where Where's where's the Brunson play? We got? Luca had 325 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: thirty seven? Where's the Brunson play? They won by thirty tonight? 326 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Where's Jalen Brunson? He had twenty three? Around the Robinson 327 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: squad and rattles at home that it's eighty five sixty nine. 328 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: So you got an accommodating frostburn tyshir, I'm giving you 329 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: a Knicks highlight hell half frozen over. 330 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: TV. 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: No, well, no, And the reason and the reason I 332 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: know Frostburg is doing this because we're holding out hope 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: because this is the look. That's why this game is 334 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: so big, Right, it could be Lebron's last game at MSG. 335 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: It's Knicks Lakers. Everything is a big deal. And it 336 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: is also the first NBC Sunday Night basketball game. Right, 337 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: It's it's back now, and I am holding out hope 338 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: that it's going to be Marv Albert announcing the beginning 339 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: of the game when you hear the dead d ed 340 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Denta and tonight the Knicks and Jalen Brunson host Lebron 341 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: James in his final game in MSG as a Laker 342 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: because they're not making the finals and he'll be with 343 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: the Cavs next year. It's Lakers Nicks right now on 344 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: the NBA on NBC. Like I'm really him or is it? 345 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: Ai? 346 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Marvl and Alan Iverson not part of this game. It's 347 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: a different Ai since I've been retired from the game. 348 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: Time out, JJ Reddick. He wants to talk it over. 349 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, AI did not have a good week. I think 350 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: he should have probably used a different example. 351 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean how many other a all right? 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: And Andre Iguidala, former NBA Finals MVP, not involved in 353 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I mean he won something time out 354 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Mike Brown. He thinks he's still coaching Sacramento. I really 355 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: want like, come on, man, you get that. You can't 356 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: give me you Marv Albert opening things up right, We 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: can't get round Ball Rock and Marvel. I mean, come on, man, 358 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: we gotta be able to do that. 359 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: Tesh is ready for his spotlight moment. He's tuck seeded up. 360 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 4: He'll be courtside, get ready. Just might show up alongside 361 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: him from that great sketch. 362 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean, well there, Well we just 363 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: saw the the first pictures from ted Lasso season four 364 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: just published. Yeah, just came out. Yeah, it's gonna be 365 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: everything that we thought. He's gonna be coaching a women's team, 366 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: uh in back in England, and and it's gonna be 367 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: a whole new cast of characters that you know, I 368 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: feel like I would. I'm I thought like, am I 369 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna miss the guys on the team from the first run? 370 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm really not right? Like we 371 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, we we're keeping Roy Kent. Look, I'll miss 372 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Jamie Tart He's the only one that's not in it. 373 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: Uh. 374 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I think coaching a women's team, I 375 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: think that's really cool. And yeah, well no, I think 376 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Nate the Greats coming in. I think Nate the Greats back, 377 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: but it's fun paid. It's not Nate the Great the 378 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, the bad villain that he was. 379 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's nobody paid no penalty. It was like 380 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: it was a dream sequence. 381 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: No, he was a jerk. He deserves more. But that's 382 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: that's Ted. Ted's very forgiving. He's a forgiving guy, you know. 383 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like, oh man, look, but I'm like, 384 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: oh am, I gonna I'm not gonna miss a lot again. 385 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: I'll miss Jamie Tart, but a couple of storylines that 386 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: involve the players. I'm like, yeah, I don't know that 387 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: you can go any further with the with the storylines 388 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: that you have, But I'll really miss Sam because I'll 389 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: really want to. I really want to see a Kofu 390 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: back in. 391 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, good'und somewhere he has to And I mean, who 392 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: doesn't need more, uh Hannah wanting him? 393 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: You will never ever, ever ever play for the National Day. 394 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I got he's such a good act. I 395 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: gotta have I gotta have more Gofu. I gotta more 396 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: Super League. 397 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 9: Uh. 398 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: But to this NFL story today. And you know we'd 399 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: like to say we're ahead of the curve. All right, Jason, 400 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: give give me some proof ahead of the curve. 401 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: Oh, we don't punt it for forty eight hours win 402 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: to see which the winds blown. 403 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: It's a a couple of weeks ago we told you 404 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: that looks as things go on this NFL season, the 405 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: further the Seahawks advance, the better it is for them, 406 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: the worse it is for the Vikings. And you want 407 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: to talk about Kevin O'Connell and Quasia doo Famensa, Right, 408 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: these are guys we talked about with every advancing week, 409 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: the better Sam Darnold plays, the worse this is for 410 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: them because this makes them look like they are absolutely inept. 411 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: And we said two weeks ago this is fireable stuff 412 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna pay for their job. Sam Darnald gets 413 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean I can point to the 414 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: segment that we did it on we put it out 415 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: on social media. If they get to the Super Bowl, 416 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: someone's getting fired. What happened today, Quasi Adolfla Mensa got 417 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: fired by the Vikings. They are looking for their new 418 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: general manager. Our manager, Scott Shapiro was flying to Minnesota 419 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: right now to interview for the job. I told him 420 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: I'd write him a letter of recommendation. So look, we 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: told you ahead of the curve this is fireable stuff. 422 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: And I know that there's the window dressing we got 423 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: today from this story that wow, you're firing your GM, 424 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, this far away from the regular season. Yeah, 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: there's certain things that we got where maybe you know, 426 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: he rubbed some people the wrong way and and other decisions. 427 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: He had a spotty draft record. Yeah, all that is 428 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: part of it, sure, but that's all Like the side dishes. 429 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: The main dish, the turkey in this Thanksgiving meal is 430 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: they let Sam Darnold walk out the door and look 431 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: at what he has done. That is unforgivable. That is unforgivable. 432 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you had him and you let 433 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: him go and he hit it big, well, we didn't 434 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: know what we had. The guy was backing up JJ 435 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: McCarthy for here. We had no idea. Okay, that's one thing, right, 436 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: No one's really killing them for Daniel Jones, say noboded. 437 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was still any good? All right? Yeah, And 438 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: he wanted to go somewhere and start. You had JJ McCarthy. 439 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: But you it's the hardest thing to do in the 440 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: NFL is to get a quarterback. And you will keep 441 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: your job as a GM or a head coach as 442 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: long as your quarterback is good and you and a 443 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: guy come in and through a complete and total action. 444 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Right because McCarthy got hurt. Sam Darnald comes in and 445 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: has a Pro Bowl seat. And I don't mean I 446 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: don't mean Shador Sanders, Joe Flacco, pro Bowl season. I 447 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: mean a Pro Bowl season, thirty five touchdowns, four thousand yards. 448 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: But they said, no, no, no, the last two games 449 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: weren't great, and we really really want to go to 450 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. So we're gonna kick Sam Darnald out. We're 451 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: not gonna even try to franchise him. We're not gonna 452 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: make JJ McCarthy try to beat him out, even though 453 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: there was talking the offseason. We'll try to bring in 454 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. That could be a bit of a segue 455 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: to JJ McCarthy. What the hell are you doing? Man? 456 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: This is like NFL malpractice the Vikings had, Like again, 457 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: this is where everybody should be fired because you had 458 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: a guy that was that good. You saw the evidence. 459 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: This is not something where I need to look back 460 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: and say, well, an NFL guy with all the years 461 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: experience is going to see something in a quarterback that 462 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know everybody got to see. Boy, Sam Donald 463 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: came in and made it work. Man. You went to 464 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: fourteen and three with the Vikings. Yeah, the last two 465 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: games weren't great, but guess what, only one team ends 466 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: the season really happy when in the Super Bowl you 467 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: had the guy, You had the guy, and you said, no, 468 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: we want an unproven rookie so badly that this is 469 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. And immediately felt like they 470 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: wound up saying we don't want to do this because 471 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna slow play bringing JJ McCarthy along. Maybe we 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: signed Aaron Rodgers And now the end of this season 473 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: where he couldn't stay healthy and couldn't play well, what 474 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: did the Vikings say, We're gonna bring in some competition 475 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: for him. Like, I mean, this is where you say, Okay, 476 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: I gotta fire everybody involved in this, because there's no 477 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: other team in the history of the NFL that had 478 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: this kind of year out of a quarterback who was 479 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and said yeah, we're moving on 480 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you had to give Sam Donald 481 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: a ton of money and say, well we got a sign, 482 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: but franchise him for a year, keep him around for 483 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: a year if your plan was to make JJ McCarthy 484 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of earn it or keep Sam Donald around. But 485 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: had you had faith in a guy that you didn't 486 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: see anything from that was overdrafted, and now look where 487 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: you are now you may not have any quarterback. So 488 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: that's why two weeks ago said, if Sam Donald keeps 489 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: doing this, this just makes things look even worse with 490 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: every passing day. And now today, hey, their GM pays 491 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: for it with his job. We told you this two 492 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago because that is absolutely fireable throughout the NFL. 493 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: This has never been done before. 494 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: You go through the process and rewind the last couple 495 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: of years in draft choices and decide how good those 496 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: picks were in the moment, right, because hindsight always twenty 497 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: twenty most teams struggle in terms of the viability of 498 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: a lot of their draft choices. So you got that 499 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: that's fine, But on that roster you had three quarterbacks 500 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: because you also had good old Daniel Jones who was 501 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: hanging around there and if nothing else, he should have 502 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: been brought back to fight McCarthy for the spot, because 503 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: it would have been a much more amenable fifteen million 504 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: dollar hit as opposed to needing to franchise Old Sam, 505 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: which would have cost you forty Either way dollar cost averaging, 506 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: you still are pretty good in terms of what you're 507 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 4: paying at the quarterback position. But for Kevin O'Connell and 508 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: for that squad, we watched the dallions and the rumors 509 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: about Aaron Rodgers, which still just some of those were 510 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: in that room most likely and now confirmed to be 511 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: truly the coach weren't quite convinced that McCarthy was a 512 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: gonna be ready or p was. 513 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: Gonna be that guy, even if he was right. 514 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: So now you've got yourself in this situation, and we've 515 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: seen Rogers name floating again before the McCarthy hire in 516 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh to where that seems like a foregone conclusion. But 517 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: until and they're bringing back other pieces of that old 518 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 4: Green Bay squad, right line coaches and whatever to try 519 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: to get it all together to set it. 520 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: Up for Aaron Rodgers' return. 521 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 4: But in Minnesota you had a guy who went by 522 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: the formulas, went by the math. He was just there 523 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl representing the Minnesota Vikings. So that's 524 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: the timing of it all gets kind of funny. But 525 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 4: as soon as you see Sam Darnold start doing interviews 526 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: as the Super Bowl representative from the NFC, it's gonna 527 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: sting Ziggy Wilf a little bit more. Yeah, right, that 528 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: reality sets in a little bit more, especially as a 529 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure he went in and said, all right, what's 530 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: our ceiling here and how happy are the ancillary parts, 531 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: because that's the other part of this equation, right, is 532 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: that we saw justin Jefferson and he played pretty good 533 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: soldier over the course. 534 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Of the year. 535 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: He telling me he was happy with how he was 536 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 4: utilized in that system. He caught eighteen passes this year, 537 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: seemed about right. 538 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I think John Metchi caught more passes with the Jets 539 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: than he caught with the Vikings this year. But you know, 540 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the thing is is that there are some mistakes that 541 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: happen and teams get over them, but there are some 542 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: mistakes that just get worse and worse as time goes on, 543 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: where you know what, we can't let this mistake go 544 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: without there being some sort of responsibility or culpability for it, right, 545 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: Like you want to go back to to Sean when 546 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you go back to the ACFC Championship game. In Sean 547 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Payton's mistake of not taking the points in the second 548 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: quarter on the field goal, you could tell as the 549 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: game went on that mistake was just going to get 550 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, to the point 551 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: where he had to address it and it's something that's 552 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: going to haunt him for the rest of his career. 553 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: An offensive coordinator gets fired, he had to talk about 554 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: bo Nix's unhealthy ankle, which was not the right conversation 555 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: that now bo Nix is mad about. And look at 556 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: what's happened to the Broncos. They're an absolute mess. They 557 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: are a New York Jets, Cleveland Brown's tire fire of 558 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: a mess, all stemming from that mistake. Because some mistakes 559 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: just get so big, so big, you can't just say, well, 560 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: it happened and we're moving on. This is we need 561 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: some sort of responsibility taken and something has to have 562 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: an action has to happen so we can move on 563 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: from this. And that's what this was. Because if Darnold 564 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: went out in the first round of the playoffs, I 565 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: think maybe a dolfa mensa keeps his up because okay, 566 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: well yeah, look what he did. Well they went out 567 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: in the first round, and well that's what happened to 568 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: us last year. So okay, Donald's good. But all right, 569 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with the vikings and all 570 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: about what happened and with Donald and the Super Bowl. 571 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: Man he is costing people jobs. Now jobs are at stake, 572 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Mike Carmon because of Sam Darley. 573 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 4: Well, but you talk about windows and whether you believe 574 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: in the finality of things, you look around that division, 575 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: life is going to be hard. And you had someone 576 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: in the room and whether you love Sam or not, 577 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: and you just read cold hard statistics, you know, it's 578 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 4: easy to dismiss the year Sam Donald had to a 579 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: degree you actually had to watch some football. I know, 580 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: tough concept for a lot, but the idea that you 581 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: now are in an NFC North Packers aren't going anywhere, 582 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: Bears are now just getting run up this year. Obviously, 583 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: a lot of walls went their way, a lot of 584 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: forced turnovers in close range, still gave up twenty six 585 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: points per game, miraculous comebacks. So you're expecting a little 586 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: bit of a regression there, but they might be better overall, 587 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: but you don't know. 588 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 5: And then Detroit they took a step back. Are they done? No, 589 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: they're not done. 590 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: It's still a roster that's ready to at least give 591 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: you a hell the two times a year you got 592 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: a plan. So if you're Minnesota, you're looking at another 593 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: year of Addison and Hockinson and Jefferson. Jefferson after week five, 594 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: is he just gonna walk off the field like he's 595 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: DJ Moore? I mean, there's opportunities and there's craziness that 596 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: can happen here. 597 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason 598 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend my conference understand Sam 599 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Darnold getting people five. This is the most egregious epic 600 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: fail in the NFL in years because it was just 601 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: so obvious. Even the most average NFL fan would say, Yeah, 602 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: you don't make this move. No no, no, no, no, 603 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the opposite. We're gonna get rid of 604 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: that guy because you know, quarterback is too important to 605 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: get a guy that's really good. Time now to find 606 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: out what's trending in the wide world of sports. Someone 607 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: who's been called the Sam dar of Fox Sports Radio. 608 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to the Super Bowl. He's day He's glad 609 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to talk about the Jets anymore. It's 610 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Steve di Sega. 611 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been seeing ghosts. We do have a final 612 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 8: in college hoops. Number three Michigan on Fox TV is 613 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 8: just one at seventh thrand Michigan State eighty three seventy 614 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 8: one for the Spartans. Jeremy Fears did have thirty one 615 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 8: points in defeat. Number twenty one. Saint Louis won again 616 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 8: at home against Dayton one oh two to seventy one, 617 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 8: and we have four late games in the NBA. Mid 618 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 8: third quarter at Phoenix Suns now up seventy seven sixty 619 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 8: over Cleveland. Denver has Nicola jokicch back twenty points in 620 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 8: nineteen minutes on the court. The Nuggets lead in the 621 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 8: third against the Clippers seventy eight seventy two. Jokich, who 622 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 8: returned this evening, had missed a month with a knee 623 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 8: entry halftime, the Brooklyn Nets, who've lost seven in a row, 624 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 8: are leading fifty four to fifty two at Utah. The 625 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 8: late game has Detroit a head mid first quarter at 626 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 8: Golden State twenty nine to twenty two. By the way, 627 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 8: Saturday Spurs at Hornet's game was moved up to a 628 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 8: noon Eastern start due to bad weather. Charlotte's won five 629 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 8: straight the next one there fifth in a row tonight 630 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 8: blitzing Portland one twenty seven to ninety seven, Boston all 631 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 8: over Sacramento one twelve ninety three. The final Kings have 632 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 8: lost eight straight. New Orleans sent Memphis to a fifth 633 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 8: straight loss one fourteen, one to oh six victories for 634 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 8: Orlando and the Lakers. In fact, Luka Donsich had a 635 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 8: triple double in the first half at Washington. He finished 636 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 8: with thirty seven points, eleven rebounds, thirteen assists just one 637 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 8: NHL game tonight, Columbus early third period leads at Chicago 638 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 8: three to two. The Vikings fired general manager Quasiadolfo Menza 639 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 8: after four years. Minnesota will search for a new GM 640 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 8: after the draft. The Packers gave multi year extensions too 641 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 8: general manager Brian Gudokunst, director of football Operations russ ball, 642 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 8: and officially to head coach Matt Lafleur. The Steelers new 643 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 8: defensive coordinator is Patrick Graham from the Raiders. He worked 644 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 8: for Mike mccarthiat Green Bay. In twenty eighteen, the Ravens 645 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 8: hired Declan Doyle as offensive coordinator. He was with the 646 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 8: Bears this past season. He was a Sean Payton assistant 647 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 8: before that, and Buffalo's new offensive coordinator is Pete Carmichael, 648 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 8: a Sean Payton assistant at Denver and New Orleans. The 649 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 8: A's gave shortstop Jacob Wilson a seven year extension were 650 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 8: seventy million dollars. Former Stanford baseball coach Mark Marquis has 651 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 8: passed away at the age of seventy eight. Justin Rose 652 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 8: leads by four strokes in San Diego. Brooks Keepka barely 653 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 8: made the cut. The Australian Open women's final is very 654 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 8: late tonight our time. In the men's Semis, number one 655 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 8: Carlos Alcarez won in five sets in about five and 656 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 8: a half hours. Novak Djokovic advanced. Lindsay Vaughn injured her 657 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 8: knee in a crash in her final downhill race before 658 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 8: the Olympics. After the crash, the race was canceled. Today, 659 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 8: she says her Olympic dream is not yet over. NASCAR's 660 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 8: Clash is Sunday night on Fox TV. 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Coming up next, something happened today, 670 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: big news that now I kind of love the Pro Bowl. 671 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: Trust me, it's amazing news and it's coming up next 672 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. 673 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 674 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 675 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 676 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best 677 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. Your selfish bastard, you miss ading you 678 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: today's show. You want to catch the podcast, just search 679 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon wherever you get your podcast. 680 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Right after the show, Today's podcast gets posted, be sure 681 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: to follow the podcast rate at five stars. You can 682 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: even provide a review. Again, just search Jason Smith and 683 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon wherever you get your podcasts. You'll find today's 684 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: full show and a besta version posted right after we 685 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: get off the air. Well, today, there was a big 686 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: story that happened revolving around the Pro Bowl, And now 687 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: I kind of love the Pro Bowl because the Pro 688 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Bowl today said this is what we are. Love us 689 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: for what we are. Now Joe Flacco is going to 690 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl for the first time in his eighteen 691 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: year NFL career, which should ask answer the question, is 692 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco elite? Okay, his first Pro Bowl appearance is 693 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: this year fifteen touchdowns, ten picks, quarterback rating of seventy nine, 694 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: which is about twenty points below average. Split the season 695 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: with Cleveland and Cincinnati. He had a big four game 696 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: stretch with the Bengals in the middle of the season 697 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: when they tried to save their year by obtaining him 698 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: while Joe Burrow got healthy. He had eleven touchdowns and 699 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: two picks. It was, you know, four great games in 700 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: a row. They only won one, they lost to the Jets, 701 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: and then you know, he played a little bit after 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: that a couple of ok weeks and then sat the 703 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: rest of the way when Joe Burrow returned. But this 704 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: is now Joe Flacco going to the Pro Bowl a 705 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: few days after Shador Sanders was named to the Pro 706 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Bowl Games. And this should tell you that it's time 707 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: to embrace the Pro Bowl for what it is and 708 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: not what it used to be. Right, because how many 709 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: times did you get this week? Shaduor Sanders is a prome. 710 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch two people don't watch anyway, man, 711 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 712 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 5: What you had to watch? 713 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 4: What six to eight million people's are been consistently watching. 714 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 4: You're probably on the other side of that one. 715 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: There's not even a game anymore, right, it's just the games. 716 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: It's like going to a carnival and watching these NFL players, 717 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, try to win Teddy Bears. Right, it's a 718 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: but the Pro Bowl has become the Oscar of the NFL, 719 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: where we reward people for their careers and popularity, because 720 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: that's what the oscars is. It's not about who had 721 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: this best before? When can we reward you for your 722 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: career and your popularity? Which you're gonna see when boy 723 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: is Leo gonna win Best Actor again? Is Michael B. 724 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: Jordan gonna win because clearly he's made a lot of money, 725 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: He's incredibly popular. He was terrific in Sinners, Right. Is 726 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: Timothy Shallomey gonna win because it feels like his popularity 727 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: and what he says is through the roof. But that's 728 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: what the Oscars is, and that's what the Pro Bowl is, 729 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: and they're embracing it. Yeah, you could have found a 730 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: way to get to get two out of the Pro 731 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: Bowl because two have probably had the best year out 732 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: of a lot of guys that didn't wind up getting there. 733 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: But what's a better win for the Pro Bowl? You 734 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: get Shador Sanders, who is there, is gonna cut through, 735 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: is gonna make headlines over the next few days. When 736 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Chador said, we got a big story on Shador Sanders 737 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: coming up in about fifteen minutes. And here's Joe Flacco. Hey, 738 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco gets to go to the Pro Bowl for 739 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: the first time in his eighteen year career. It's the 740 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: first nomination acting nomination for so and so after a 741 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: thirty five year career. I love that they're embracing it. 742 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what people want sometimes of the Pro Bowl, 743 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: like they can't and don't take it seriously anymore. This 744 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: is now an event where we try to get headlines 745 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: surrounding it, kind of like what the NBA All Star 746 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Game does. So yeah, I get why Chador is there. 747 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: I get why Joe Flacco is there. This is not 748 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: we're putting the best players out there anymore. This is 749 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: we want to entertain over a week and a half 750 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: span where the game doesn't matter anymore. So I get 751 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl's doing. I love their doing this, 752 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: and if they do more stuff like this, guess what, 753 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get more headlines and more stuff out of 754 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: the problem. I'm waiting for Shador Sanders to say something 755 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: over the course of the next three four days like that, 756 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: that's what the Pro Bowl has become, and I'm here 757 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: for it. 758 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 4: I think we long ago jumped the shark to where 759 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 4: it was a full football game, right. It played out 760 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 4: like a lot of NBA games, And that's been the 761 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 4: running joke for a lot of years, like, Hey, you know, 762 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 4: text me when there's six minutes left in the fourth 763 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: and if that's exciting, maybe I'm in. Then text me 764 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 4: again when there's four minutes left in the fourth, and 765 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: then and so on. 766 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: And so on. 767 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 5: With the Pro Bowl. 768 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 4: I mean it was a nice vacation. All the stars 769 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: at least showed up. Whether they just did a nice 770 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: interview on the side, and you had shots of them 771 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: while doing shots while hanging out together during the practice week, yeah, 772 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: you got some of that. But where we're at at 773 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: this point, it's always been a popularity contest, So that's 774 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: no different. Now it's just a matter of, Hey, which 775 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: guy is gonna be willing to play and do we 776 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 4: want to release? How many of these guys actually say no? 777 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 4: Because the fact that we got to Sanders and Flacco, 778 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: other than the Atlanta Falcons fans really should feel the 779 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: good about the man they got, and Kevin Stefanski, he 780 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 4: is their man. That he got two Pro Bowlers into 781 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 4: the game. Is just that there's several others that clearly 782 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 4: said no and that they have not been shamed or highlighted. Specifically, 783 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: is no, they asked that guy and he told him 784 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 4: to beat it. Nope, we went straight down here and look. 785 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 4: I argued with Shoudor the other day that Flacco should 786 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 4: have gotten it ahead of him. So it's only right 787 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: that they get to relive their training camp moments in 788 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: early season. Uh, fun and excitement. 789 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: But just think about that. What you think about that 790 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: for a second. If I had said before the season, hey, 791 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: guess what, my carmon, guess what? 792 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: Why? 793 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: That's what the Browns not only have won, but two 794 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are gonna make the Pro Bowl on their 795 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: roster right now? Like, what could I have won? What 796 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: could I have won from Vegas on that? Like, like, 797 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what I mean, whatever the 798 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: national deficit is, I think I could have won that 799 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 1: amount of money. 800 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 4: Well, he also probably would have been cashing a ticket 801 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 4: on Stefanski being the uh the ending. 802 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 5: Is third Coach of the Year award. Yeah, instead, Oh 803 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 5: here we are. 804 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: So hopefully they can they can knock down the little 805 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 4: clowns on each level or or blow up the balloon, 806 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 4: you know, shooting from the hose faster than somebody else. 807 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: Either way, you've long either been in or out on 808 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl and the Pro Bowl games, and that 809 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 4: goes back to when it you know, this time it counts. 810 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: Man, I'm just thinking what I could have bet I 811 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: I really, I mean, I don't know, I don't know 812 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: what that'd have been. Like Todd Furman or Insider in 813 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: Vegas who joins us. You know every week on the 814 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: show would say Smith, I'll give you whatever odds you 815 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: wanted on that whatever rodd you wanted, I would have 816 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: given you whatever. Wrong. 817 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 5: That's probably true. 818 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: Face coming up next. You want a big, bold NFL 819 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: prediction on this Friday, ten days before the super Bowl, 820 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: we got one for you. That's next. Jason to Mike Fox, 821 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: her career coming later on in years. And I know 822 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: when I saw the headline break today, I'm like, what 823 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: what what? And I just I just couldn't believe it. 824 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: And it's just so sad. She was so talented and 825 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: she's one of those actresses Mike that like, you know, 826 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: there's actresses we talk about having watchability, right, I talk 827 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: about that, like, you know, if you're on camera and 828 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: you have a watchability, you're gonna you know, you're gonna 829 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: be a big star and you can do a lot 830 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: of roles. Right. Julia Roberts is she the greatest actress 831 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: know but she has watchability that is absolutely insane. Tom Cruise, 832 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: George Clooney watchability. They all have it. Michael B. Jordan watchability, 833 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: they all have that. She had this quality where seeing 834 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: her do her thing just made you happy to watch 835 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: her because you knew you were gonna get something funny. 836 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: But just seeing her on camera, it's weird, like it 837 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: released like that oxytocin in your body that you like 838 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: made you that made you happy, Like just seeing her 839 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: in something. You know, she was always so good and 840 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: it was like a breath of fresh air. And not 841 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: many people could do stuff like that, and and Catherine 842 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: O'Hara was able to do that throughout her career. 843 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you just go through the the IMDb 844 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: list and even just the recent things. I enjoined our Gyle. 845 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 4: I know that was not a movie that was embraced 846 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: by the masses, but a little departure of her normal character. 847 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: There Beetlejuice the sequel, right, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice the Last of Us. 848 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 4: So Pedro Pascal had his tribute from hanging out with 849 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: her for a couple episodes and then she was in 850 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 4: the studio and gave that was the last you know, 851 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: on camera stuff, But go all the way back and 852 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 4: all the different film clips from the mockumentaries on down. 853 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 4: For me, it's it's always that if she's in it, 854 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: it's gonna get get my attention raised that there's some 855 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: merit or she's doing a favor to someone she believes 856 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: deserves a shot, and so. 857 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: Like Beetlejuice too, all right, I'll do Beetle. I don't 858 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't really need to do it, but okay, I'll 859 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, everybody else, I'll do it. 860 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 4: And again, to me, that was one of those movies 861 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 4: that you went in and you accepted it for what 862 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 4: it was before the opening credits, right, just like all right, 863 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 4: I mean they're investing in this, you know, and letting 864 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 4: myself be entertained ish for a lot, for a lot 865 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: of it or not, but all of it to say, 866 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's for pick your actor or actress 867 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 4: or director or whatever the case is. You know, if 868 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: Bruckheimer's attached, I know I'm getting a throw ride, right, 869 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: I know I'm going on a big adventure from his 870 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: production company. When Catherine O'Hara was attached, like all right, 871 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get something funny. I'm gonna get the every 872 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 4: woman's sensibility, right that go to that Midwest sensibility to 873 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: a degree with it related to a you know a 874 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 4: lot of those characters sounded just like family members to me. 875 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 4: So all of that to say a huge loss. I 876 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 4: remember seeing her live doing Sally's Song as part of 877 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 4: The Nightmare Before Christmas with Elfman and the dearly departed 878 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 4: Paul Rubins on stage as well. So, you know, just 879 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 4: such a part of our filmography, a collective filmography. 880 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 5: I guess you know she was. 881 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: She was so good in the studio, right, she had 882 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: that small arc in the Last of Us, And I 883 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: just heard her career is dotted by so many great things, right, 884 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: Shit's Creek was fantastic, and that, you know, that really 885 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: gave her the the you know, another huge role like 886 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: when you're in your sixties and she hits it even 887 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: bigger with a role like that is phenomenal. But the 888 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: one thing I hope though, coming off of this, the 889 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: one thing I hope is that people go back and 890 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: watch the Christopher Guest mockumentary trilogy of Waiting for Guffman 891 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: a mighty wind invest in show. Because Spinal Tap gets 892 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: all the attention of Spinal Tap two and all those things. 893 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: I get it, But those three movies that were late nineties, 894 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: early two thousands, all the Waiting for Gufman, the first 895 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: big mockumentary A Mighty Wind about the reunion of all 896 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: these folk music acts from the sixties. And then Best 897 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: in Show, which is the mockumentary of the Westchester the 898 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: Westminster Dog and Kennel Show, and Fred Willard is unbelievable 899 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: in it, Like she's so good in all of these 900 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: and they are all incredible actors. And I hope that's 901 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: what gets more of a push now because everybody remembers 902 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: her from what's going on here here, But go back 903 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: and watch those three movies. They are absolutely genius, right, 904 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: that trilogy is incredible. 905 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely mighty Wind. 906 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: And you know what is it? 907 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 4: The the Kiss at the end of the Rainbow? I mean, 908 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: oh yeah, but you know you mentioned Westminster. I mean 909 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 4: that's this weekend one hundred and fiftieth anniversary. So what 910 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 4: better way to take it all in? Let me let 911 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 4: me change topics a little bit. How much you think 912 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 4: I could bench press? Well, I don't know. 913 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: I could do one hundred and fifty pounds. I could 914 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: do twenty five reps. She's walking at the end on 915 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: her on her bed leg and her shoes just keep spinning. 916 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: She's walking out there. She just can't even stand up 917 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: on her leg. 918 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be right here until I got another massage 919 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 6: from myself. 920 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: Katherine o'haratt. What an incredible career, so talented. Again, just 921 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: made you happy to watch her doing her thing The 922 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon Life 923 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now obviously, which is 924 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: our business. And hey, we got a big NFL story 925 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: today and we're ten days away from the super Bowl. 926 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: But it's time for a pretty big bold prediction for 927 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: next year. Why well today? Uh Todd Munkin, brand new 928 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: head coach of the Cleveland Brown's former Ravens offensive coordinator 929 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: h met Shador Sanders, pro Bowl quarterback for the Browns. Now, okay, 930 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: at should door, Sanders is really going to be the quarterback? 931 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: What's going on? The Browns are an absolute mess. But uh, 932 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: this is the first meeting that cameras were there for 933 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: when Monkin met shadoor a Shadeur walked into his office. 934 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 935 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: We'll go, oh yeah, welcome back to the state. Then 936 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: we try to draft your ass last. 937 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: It's all worked out, Todd Munkins saying, we tried to 938 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: draft your ass last year, remember which the whole story 939 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: that Dion didn't want Chador to go to the Ravens 940 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: because they had Lamar Jackson, even though that could have 941 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: been a big landing spot. I love the fact that 942 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Monkin brought that up. We tried to draft your ass 943 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: last year. But now it's all worked out, right, It's 944 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: all worked out. He's here in Cleveland. I'm gonna guarantee 945 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: you this right, just seeing this meeting here, Mounkin sounds 946 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: overly positive about Shador, and I will bet you opening 947 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: week of this year, Shador Sanders is the starting quarterback 948 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns, right for a couple of reasons, 949 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: not just because suddenly Shadoor Sanders is great, but here 950 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: comes munkin. He's a new head coach. All right. While 951 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna get their quarterback in the draft, there's nobody 952 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: to get, right, you're not getting anybody. You're getting you're 953 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: getting in a Shadoor Sanders Dylan Gabriel kind of way, 954 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: where you're taking a chance on someone who might need 955 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of seasoning, right, because the only guy 956 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: going really high in that draft that's gonna play right 957 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: away is for Nando Mendoza. Everybody else is gonna sit 958 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, Ty Simpson. Whatever he goes, he's gonna sit. 959 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: So the best thing the Browns are gonna do is 960 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: go get a quarterback like that. So Shador Sanders is 961 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a leg up on the competition there. There's 962 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: a desire to see him play when now he has 963 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: the focus and the attention of entire offseason being the 964 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: number one guy. Before you turn the page on Shador Sanders, 965 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: you want to make sure he can't do it. And 966 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: the Browns it's an easy year for them, right, Okay, 967 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: we'll draft a quarterback of the future later on. Right, 968 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: we'll get somebody or you know, but hey, Chador this year, 969 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: or hey, if Shador stinks, hey we'll get back in 970 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback market a year from now. But he's gonna 971 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: get the first shot at being the quarterback when you 972 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: think the draft options aren't great. He will try to 973 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,919 Speaker 1: fend off someone like himself, which is great news. He'll 974 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: be the starter. 975 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: Now. 976 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 1: The tough news is that this is his last chance. 977 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: If he doesn't have a great start to the year 978 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: or a great year, he's done and the Browns will 979 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: be moving on a quarterback. So he's got this year 980 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: to be his proven year, his second year. But the 981 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: good news is for a fifth round pick to come 982 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 1: in and say, yeah, you're gonna get the first shot, 983 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: and you're gonna walk into campus the starting quarterback, and 984 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna get every chance succeed in as long as 985 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: you don't blow chunks and a guy comes in out 986 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: of knowwhere and beat you out. Guess what, You're gonna 987 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback of the Browns opening day this fall. 988 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 1: That is absolutely going to have for all the questions. 989 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: You see monkn coming in, how excited he was to 990 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: meet sha Door Sanders. There's no other way this offseason 991 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: is gonna unfold the way the way where that's not 992 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: gonna be the case. Right. They're not gonna suddenly make 993 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: a big trade for Kyler Murray and say, hey, thanks, 994 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: but we got Kyler Murray. No, if they're doing anything, 995 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna want to go get his quarterback of the 996 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: future in the draft. Maybe next year. Trust me, Shador 997 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: Sanders number one quarterback of the Browns opening week this year. 998 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 4: See, I would have loved to have been a fly 999 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 4: on the wall. Once that door shut and they started 1000 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 4: having the real conversation. It's like you know, you could 1001 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 4: have had a year a learning and you probably would 1002 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 4: have played some substantive time because well, Lamar, get hurt. 1003 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 5: But you have the situation now. 1004 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 4: And I love how that was conveniently forgotten by folks, 1005 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 4: particularly you know, the ex playing dopes that always want 1006 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 4: to you know, Shie, the media folks and other talkers 1007 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 4: like no, no, you forgot about the fact that they 1008 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 4: wanted him in Baltimore a year ago, and that Monkin 1009 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 4: made Lamar Jackson, I don't know, an MVP along the way, 1010 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 4: and go back to what he did at Georgia, highly 1011 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 4: decorated run, a lot of stops, no question about it, 1012 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 4: but a lot of success culminating this. It's sad to 1013 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 4: whatever the relationship and however it ends with Schwartz on 1014 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 4: the other side of the field. But for now you've 1015 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 4: got a guy with a pedigrea, guy who's clearly excited 1016 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 4: to work with you. Because I have no doubt if 1017 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 4: you go back into what they were doing for ahead 1018 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 4: of the twenty five draft, Monkin was a guy going, hey, 1019 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 4: this guy could help us out right that he would 1020 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 4: have been pro shador Sanders coming on board, recognizing that 1021 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 4: the need to learn and acclimate to the NFL. Instead, 1022 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: you go to Cleveland, you played Trial by five and 1023 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 4: you post what you did a couple of big spots, 1024 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 4: a couple of big plays, but for the most spot part, 1025 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: scatter shot and some of the worst statistics ever. 1026 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 5: Even if you did end up in the Pro Bowl games. 1027 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 4: So you give it a shot and at worst you're 1028 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 4: still the Browns and you're back up near the top 1029 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 4: of the draft in twenty twenty seven. 1030 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look to tell me there's another solution 1031 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: that stops this from happening. I mean, there's not. If 1032 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: they were a team that hey, we're a quarterback away 1033 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: from winning, well, yeah, then they're going into free agency 1034 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: and then they're training for Kyler Murray or getting Kirk Cousins. 1035 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: But they're not. They're starting over. And that's going to 1036 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: be a very common theme for most of the teams 1037 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: who's stunk in the NFL this year is that, hey, 1038 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: we're starting over next year. Next year's a year to 1039 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. So okay, whatever we're gonna do this year, 1040 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. You already have a guy who 1041 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: played well in Spurts, and now he's going to get 1042 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: an entire offseasons as reps with the ones and go 1043 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: in as the as the unquestioned starter. So yeah, I 1044 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: mean there, there's no there's no scenario I can see 1045 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: this not happening wit obviously barring in injury or some 1046 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: but like of normal NFL offseason stuff like he's going 1047 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: to be starting Week one like that. That's how it's going. 1048 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 4: Well, just as we sit here and you start bringing 1049 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 4: up the other names when you talk about to Uh 1050 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 4: and Murray and Cousins and whomever else, that they would 1051 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 4: be viable options if you already weren't in salary cap. Hell, right, 1052 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 4: even with the announced estimated three hundred two million dollars 1053 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 4: another twenty million dollars plus bump to the cap, there's 1054 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 4: only five teams in a worse position as we sit 1055 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 4: here today in terms of where their moneys are for 1056 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, which means a lot of roster changing, 1057 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 4: but doesn't suddenly afford you the ability to go and say, Okay, 1058 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 4: maybe this guy would be our fix to go. We 1059 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 4: along with that defense, which probably doesn't include the guy 1060 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 4: that was running it last year. 1061 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 5: So lots of change and evitability there in clear. 1062 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders get ready your number one quarterback in Cleveland. 1063 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: Week one Exit outbout a Fresca Exit Swollen Dome. Jason 1064 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 1065 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: Facing a peak season, looking for a new team member. 1066 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: Work force solutions from Express Employment Professionals make hiring easier. 1067 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: Vi at expresspros dot com to find an office and 1068 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: see how Express can help you hire smarter and faster. 1069 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: Well Coming up next. He joined us on Tuesday when 1070 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick did not make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1071 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: He is Pro Football Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole, 1072 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: longtime friend of the show. In the last three days, 1073 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: we have seen other voters come out with reasons why 1074 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: they did not vote for Bill Belichick. We had Spygate, 1075 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: we had I wanted to vote for the players. I 1076 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: wanted to vote for Bob Kraft. How do we put 1077 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: a bow on this week? Does he agree with the 1078 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: reasons for his fellow voters? How do we stop this 1079 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: from happening again? Must Listen Radio Coming up next, Pro 1080 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole. This is Jason 1081 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason 1082 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon Hobo. 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So earlier this 1093 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: week we talked to Pro Football Hall of Fame voter 1094 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: Jason Clet you right, how now I can always say 1095 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame now? 1096 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah? 1097 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: He joined us. Tonight we found out Bill Belichick did 1098 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: not make the Hall of Fame. This has been a 1099 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: week long story. Gave us great insight on Hey, some 1100 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: people had some problems with stuff that went on in 1101 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: the past, meaning Spygate. Are we gonna find out anybody 1102 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: who's gonna talk about their votes? And Jason Cole said, 1103 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe one or two people will come out. Well, what 1104 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: did we get? Two people came out with their reasoning 1105 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: for not choosing Belichick for the Hall of Fame. One 1106 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: said he wanted to put the older players in first. 1107 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: The other one said, I voted for Bob Kraft and yeah, 1108 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: spygate was a thing. So now that we are putting 1109 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: a bow on this week, the week that Bill didn't 1110 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: make the Hall, Jason Cole joins us again to break 1111 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: it all down. He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. 1112 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 1: Also on thirty third Team, Jay Call, what's happening? 1113 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 3: Man, it's a beautiful Friday. But I haven't. I haven't. 1114 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 3: I have not had enough bears. 1115 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: But okay, all right, well, okay, so it's low. What's 1116 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: going to be the end of the night, you having 1117 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: more beers or more people who didn't vote for Belichick 1118 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame? 1119 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I think the beer. I think I'll get the 1120 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: people beat on this one. Okay a minute, I don't 1121 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 3: think I'm getting to eleven. Let's just say that thing. 1122 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: Could just for a second, could it possibly be like 1123 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: maybe half of the voters, could it maybe like twenty 1124 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: five people didn't vote for Belichick out of this because 1125 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 1: we don't think it's oh it's eleven or thirteen? Could 1126 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: it be twenty five. Could it be more? 1127 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 3: It could be I kind of would doubt that. I 1128 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 3: would think. I think that he got thirty to thirty 1129 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 3: five minimum. And this isn't just be getsing ooh knows, Okay. 1130 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 3: I think that based on the tone of the conversation, 1131 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 3: most people were voting for him, and a lot of 1132 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: people spoke up on his behalf. So that's just my 1133 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 3: read on it. But you kind of never know. Look, 1134 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,879 Speaker 3: I just have greater amount admiration for by Hey Gregorian, 1135 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: for my chapel for stepping up and saying they didn't 1136 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 3: vote for him and why, and again you may disagree 1137 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 3: with why, but they had their reasons. And I will 1138 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 3: say this, I think there's a real problem when the 1139 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame puts players in the same category with 1140 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 3: executives and coaches, because we need to look at players differently. 1141 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: Those of the guys are actually in the field who 1142 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: you know, they put their they put you know, literally 1143 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: put their lives and their health on the line for 1144 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 3: the game. So I don't have a real big problem 1145 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 3: with something wanting to put you know, whether it's Roger 1146 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 3: Craig or Kenny Anderson or Elsie Greenwood. It had a 1147 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. I don't agree with it in this case. 1148 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a lot closer. When you talk about 1149 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 3: like Tom Coughlin against Elsie Greenwood, that's a really tough conversation, right, 1150 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 3: And I think that I would I would say Elsie 1151 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 3: Greenwood in that case, Mike Shanahan probably decide with Shanahan. 1152 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 3: Mike Hongrim. I don't know. But when you get to 1153 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, there's eight super. 1154 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 9: Bowl rings in twelve super Bowl appearances. 1155 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 3: Or thirteen something like that, and it's like, you know, 1156 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: for the better part of half of the century that 1157 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 3: he was in the NFL, the road to the super 1158 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 3: Bowl goes through Bill Belichick. So I just that's where 1159 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 3: I think he was the best candidate. I think I 1160 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 3: said this the other night, and I'll say it again. 1161 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 3: If you take the five guys in that category that 1162 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 3: we voted on, you know, the seniors, the coach, and 1163 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 3: the contributor, and you put him together with the fifteen 1164 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 3: guys in the player of the modern player category, I 1165 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 3: still think Belichick is the best candidate of all twenty 1166 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 3: people there. But you know that's just me. So you know, 1167 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, and you know, 1168 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 3: cheating is not like I think it's an overstated thing 1169 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 3: in the NFL based on the history of how this 1170 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 3: league is operated and based on what we can sitter cheating, 1171 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 3: you know, whether that's Ted's or whether that's you know, spine. 1172 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 3: But I think he I think his record overwhelms us. 1173 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 3: That's all I'm willing to say on that. All right. 1174 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 1: So we talked about this earlier in the week where 1175 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: we said, you know, if you're looking for a villain 1176 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: from this whole storyline, the villain might be the voting 1177 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: process itself, and maybe that needs to be changed. Would 1178 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: you say that if the voting process was different, that 1179 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: Belichick would have got in Like like what I said, Like, 1180 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: are you seeing like Gregorian who was like, hey, there 1181 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: were more people like Gregorian who said, you know, I 1182 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: wanted to vote for the players first, or maybe more 1183 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: people like Chapel who said, well I had a problem 1184 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: with Spygate, Like what was what was the bigger reason 1185 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: you think he got he was kept out? 1186 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 3: I have no idea, Okay, because you know, I don't 1187 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 3: want to get too deep in the discussion. Let me 1188 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 3: just say this that I didn't get a sense of 1189 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 3: what was like if you want to put them in order. 1190 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 3: I don't have any idea of how to put them 1191 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 3: in order, whether it was other senior players versus spygate 1192 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 3: versus you know, who knows what reason you have, right, 1193 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 3: I can't order it. It's some conglabortion of them. But 1194 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 3: a big problem, this is absolutely true, a huge, huge 1195 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 3: problem with both this category and more so this category 1196 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 3: that we're talking about, that's the three senior players with 1197 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 3: the coach and the contributor, and then similarly with the 1198 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 3: modern day players. The fifteen is the voting system. The 1199 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 3: math does not work to get guys in. It works 1200 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 3: to keep guys out. And that is in some respects 1201 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: the current goal of the Pro Football Hall of Fame 1202 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 3: when they change these rules that you know a year ago. 1203 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 3: This is the second year that we've done this, and 1204 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 3: they have wanted to make it more exclusive because they've 1205 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of complaints from you know, guys who 1206 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 3: were you know, members of the Hall of Fame, you know, 1207 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 3: and you know, the chief sulfor of this is Dean Sanders, 1208 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 3: who had the unmitigated goal to complain about the process 1209 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 3: when he's been complaining about you know, too many guys 1210 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 3: getting in, right He's one of the guys who spurred 1211 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 3: this change, not not maybe not directly, but. 1212 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 9: There are a lot of other guys who sit there 1213 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 9: and say, you know, who's this guy? 1214 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 3: Why is he getting in? Why is he getting in? 1215 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 9: And you know, it's like once you get in that club, 1216 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 9: it's like you make you want to. 1217 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Make it even more exclusive than it already is. And 1218 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 3: I just kind of look at those guys and go stop. 1219 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, the Hall of. 1220 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 9: Fame did make a mistake, I think, and putting. 1221 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 3: Too many guys in one year when they had that 1222 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 3: kind of absurd blue ribbon thing that they did five 1223 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 3: years ago, I thought that went over the top, and 1224 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 3: that spurred a lot of this conversation. But the problem 1225 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 3: is not getting in modern day guys. And we do 1226 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: have this third backlog of five or six guys who 1227 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 3: were in the coaching contributor position craft and we just 1228 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 3: talked about the other coaches. They need to get into 1229 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. They deserve to get in the 1230 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, and instead we have put up more 1231 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 3: walls for them. 1232 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to start writing two letters a week to 1233 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 4: get my changes done. But since Deonne Sanders screwed this up. 1234 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 4: Let's talk about something else and screwed up and continue 1235 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 4: that road as Kevin Stefanski got fired after putting two 1236 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 4: guys in the Pro Bowl games. J. 1237 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Cole, it is a. 1238 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 3: Remarkable year that the Cleveland Browns had. That they know 1239 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 3: that they traded away one Pro Bowl quarterback to start 1240 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 3: another win and then fired the coach above. That is 1241 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: like fin essential Browns, isn't it? 1242 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 5: Suns it up? 1243 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Before before the season started, J. Cole, I went to Vegas, 1244 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: I said, I want to bet that right now the 1245 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Browns have not one, but two quarterbacks that are going 1246 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: to make the Pro Bowl on their roster. The odds 1247 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: they would have given me, I could have bought the Jets. 1248 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean really, I'd have made enough money just by 1249 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: betting very ten bucks. I could have bought the Jets 1250 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: with the odds they would have given me. 1251 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 3: You are begging you, you please. You know the best 1252 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 3: part of this week is that you know in getting 1253 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 3: Frank right consuming that that goes through, you'll at least 1254 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 3: have your next interim coach on staff. 1255 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, week six will be the head coach. Yeah, that's 1256 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: how it's going to go. 1257 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 3: There's no question about that now. I mean you were 1258 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 3: the one who was like, hey, the Browns will have 1259 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 3: five starting quarterbacks and yeah, that was a pretty good 1260 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 3: bad That was a pretty good bet man, all right, 1261 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 3: really was yeah, you're pretty close. 1262 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,479 Speaker 1: And of them made the Pro Bowl? 1263 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 3: Like what an a certain thing? I mean, like it 1264 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 3: just is. I just wish that I wish that Roger 1265 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 3: would put the Pro Bowl out of its adventury. Just 1266 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 3: it is really like I shouldn't, I shouldn't use that description, 1267 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 3: but it's a it's a lame animal. It needs to 1268 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 3: it needs to just go the way of the dinosaur. 1269 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Just name name the All Star team. Have them all 1270 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 3: stand up before the Super Bowl. But in the pregame show, 1271 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 3: everybody wave, here's the here's the Pro Bowl team for 1272 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 3: each conference. They can wave, they can wave at the 1273 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 3: crowd and then just have them, you know, walk away. 1274 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 3: Just it's not. 1275 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 5: Just way. 1276 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Here's our problem. Everybody everybody wave, We take the team picture, 1277 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and then we go yeah. 1278 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 3: That's that's really just I mean, this this is such 1279 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 3: a should do or see come on looking at this 1280 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 3: and going blow one here, like you know, like it's 1281 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 3: it's absurd. I bet eighteen years what is going on? 1282 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: Now we know that Joe Flacco is not elite. It's 1283 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: his first Pro Bowl, not an eighteen years, so I 1284 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: think that is Joe Flacco elite. Conversation can kind of 1285 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: go away. 1286 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,919 Speaker 3: How dare you well, he's elitely wealthy, that's what you said. 1287 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 3: That's yeah, there you go. 1288 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: All right, So let let me ask you this last one. 1289 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: So today the Vikings fire there, GM right, Quazy Duffel, 1290 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Metsic gets fired. We hear stories that, yeah, maybe he 1291 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: didn't get along. You know, they the baddest body track 1292 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: record with Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl and they 1293 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: let him walk out. That's absolutely the reason why he 1294 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: got fired, yes or no. 1295 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 3: I think it was the last straw of being too 1296 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 3: involved in the quarterback process. Like a certain point, you 1297 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 3: pick out players and you let the coach make a 1298 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 3: decision on which ones he wants he wants okay, and 1299 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 3: you can't supersede the coach because he's got to run 1300 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 3: the team the way he wants. And I think you know, 1301 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 3: o'conne will definitely wanted to keep Sam right because he 1302 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 3: didn't trust what he had. You know, he was still 1303 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 3: thinking about you know, he was out there, you know 1304 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 3: wondering about Aaron Rodgers, wondering about fam You know, let 1305 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 3: him keep the guy if he's trying to win right now, 1306 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 3: and let McCarthy sit for a while. I think that 1307 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 3: that was he forced himself on that decision too much, 1308 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 3: and you paid the price when you force yourself decision again. 1309 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 3: The job of a general manager is to gather players. 1310 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 3: You hand those players over to the coach and he 1311 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 3: runs the team at that point in time. I really 1312 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: firmly believe that. And if there's a question, yeah, you 1313 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 3: guys can debate it out, but ultimately it's the it's 1314 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 3: the coach. This decision, like Kevin Colvert in Pittsburgh, was 1315 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 3: the best ever at this in terms of understanding that 1316 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 3: there's a wall between the two right and I go 1317 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 3: out and scout, I go find players. I do my best. 1318 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 3: I gather them, I hand them the coaching staff they 1319 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 3: got to run at day to day because they're the 1320 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,919 Speaker 3: ones who have to live with these guys, and they're 1321 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 3: the ones who have to win with these guys. This 1322 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 3: gut messy, and he went he went too far. 1323 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: He is Pro Football Hall of Same voter Jason Colean. 1324 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, it's it's very good. 1325 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Look, can we call it full circle now? You say no, Listen, 1326 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm haull of very good. 1327 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 3: Uh, it's I'm defeated. I'm just I've lost. I can't. 1328 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 3: I can't, I can't have the gumption anymore. 1329 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,439 Speaker 1: An extra sandwich, buddy, Yeah, you definitely heard an extra 1330 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: sandwich this week, my friend, Extra sandwich for you next time. 1331 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: All right, take it easy, buddy, j Coley. There goes 1332 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Jason Cole. 1333 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 5: He's been beaten down this week. 1334 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 8: Man. 1335 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you could tell it's a it's 1336 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: a rough week. It's a rough week for the hall. 1337 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Life isn't easy in these Hall of Fame streets. You know, 1338 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: exit out about a Fresco exit. Swollen down The Jason 1339 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmett