WEBVTT -  Don’t Get The Right Impression, MAGA Halftime “Show” 01.13.26

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<v Speaker 1>James. What's going on, man made?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm doing well. How are you guys looking good?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at look at the hair getting longer you and

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<v Speaker 1>your forest gump.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, I'm just not getting a hair cut, and it's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's done Korea very nicely by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn, bro. I felt like your your hair was

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<v Speaker 1>like way shorter last your hair you got, you got

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful hair manles do what those fuckles do?

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<v Speaker 2>I work on it once a year, whether I need

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, and get a haircut.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when's your annual haircut?

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<v Speaker 2>Right right before it gets hot, you know, like April May,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're good through the summer, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>keeps you warm through the winter and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then oh yeah, so we got a couple of months left.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta be looking like fucking Hosier out here, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. I tie it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, once you get to a point you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta tie it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're right right on the cusp of having to

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<v Speaker 2>do a man done right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do it, man, let those fluss let it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to let it ride as long asidea get

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<v Speaker 2>when you're running.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like a yeah, put a couple of beets

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<v Speaker 1>in there, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yees,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a yeah, get a problematic hair braid and

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna say, Yeah, you're doing it all Duane's Rosta colors.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, I was kind of kicking that up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Red is for the blood. Black is for the people

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, hold on, hold on, Pan African.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones who did them, the ones who did the braid

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>The one who did the braid for I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>Episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Dalis I guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a production of by Heart Radio. It's a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>where we take a deep dive in to America's shared

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<v Speaker 3>consciousness through the day's news. We also have a weekly

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<v Speaker 3>history version where we look at a different icon. We've

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<v Speaker 3>done Miss Piggy with Jamie Loftus, Arnold Schwartzenegger with Gabriis,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just did Elvis Presley with one Chris Crofton

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<v Speaker 3>That dropped yesterday. Go check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris said me, so many videos after we recorded that

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis videos, I didn't get to it. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>other Memphis Mafia video. Dude, you got us. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they are they are wild true true, Like I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>these people are mental.

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<v Speaker 3>The karate displays by Elvis or some of those videos

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<v Speaker 3>that I've ever seen of anyone, it's it's truly Steven

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<v Speaker 3>Segal esque, where like there's people like throwing punches into

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<v Speaker 3>his midsection but like pulling the like visibly pulling the punches,

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<v Speaker 3>and Elvis is just acting like he's just standing there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or as I say motto in Japanese, I really wish

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<v Speaker 3>he had just like gotten into a real fight at

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<v Speaker 3>one point and just had his whole his whole world rocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, bro, when you go, when you reach the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing like a like displays a physical power. But

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is a paid actor and helped me feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself. You're cooked, You're wat you are the bad

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<v Speaker 1>guy now.

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<v Speaker 3>But out Hey, but you can look for the episodes

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday or go back through there Evergreen.

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<v Speaker 1>That that one's out.

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<v Speaker 3>That one's out though that one is out. Currently it's Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>January thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday, it's National Rubber Ducky Day and also Korean American Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey in the area, Hey, shout out everybody from everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in this place called hell. But however, Korean Americans, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your day today.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations to my Korean American friends. Yeah, my name is

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<v Speaker 3>Jack O'Brien AKA. Look that that guy he's rolling down

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<v Speaker 3>that hill just trying to get some food. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>guy is Jay Leno. That one courtesy of First Blood

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<v Speaker 3>five twenty two, Little Coldplay Yellow jay Leno. We how

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<v Speaker 3>soon we forget about the good stories, like when Jay

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<v Speaker 3>Leno showed up ass fully beat in public and his

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<v Speaker 3>excuse was that he tried to go to a restaurant

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<v Speaker 3>next to his hotel, but it was down a hill

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<v Speaker 3>and he just like fell and landed on his face,

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<v Speaker 3>like just at every trip, he just like tumbled and

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<v Speaker 3>landed on his face fifteen times in a row. Might

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<v Speaker 3>have been the mob, I don't know. We're still looking

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<v Speaker 3>into it, the black Eye cult or whatever that's called.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co

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<v Speaker 3>host mister Miles Gray, Miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Ray, Hey, the show gun with no Gun, the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>of Lankersham, just you know, just hanging out doing my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had another AKA, but in the existential

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<v Speaker 1>dread that was this morning, I failed to search the

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<v Speaker 1>discord for AKA, but I will find one because I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw some. Finally, someone did a Jesse's Girl AKA

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<v Speaker 1>because of the news of how I told my child

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<v Speaker 1>that a picture of Jesus is actually called Jesse. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as Jesus is known in this home as just that dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse and Jesse's everywhere. But yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess the nuns. Nuns would be Jesse's girls, Mary Magdalen,

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<v Speaker 3>Mary Magdalen.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know, you never know, depends on depends on

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<v Speaker 1>where you look at it from.

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<v Speaker 3>And anybody wearing one of those promise rings, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse's Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you want to Jesse's girl. He starts saying that

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<v Speaker 1>shit older, They're like, what are you talking about? I

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<v Speaker 1>know the type.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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<v Speaker 3>by a journalist and historian from Kool Zone Media who

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<v Speaker 3>you know from his reporting on it could have happened here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's reported for Esquire and that Geo, The Nation Slate,

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<v Speaker 3>among many others, and his new book is now available

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<v Speaker 3>for pre order. It's called Against the State. Anarchists and

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<v Speaker 3>Comrades at Warren Spamimar and Rajava. Please welcome James st. James.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that was a great introt, like, I prey feel

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<v Speaker 2>better about myself now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you're I mean, look, the reputation precedes.

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<v Speaker 3>You, James. What a weird subject to cover in this

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<v Speaker 3>American moment. Yeah, no, I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I pitched his book in like twenty twenty two, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here we are, right, yeah, nearly four years later.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeahsing buzz marketing by the Trouble administration. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>gyal marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got it in at DHS or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not moist pity. I have not interacted with DHS

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<v Speaker 2>in any way apart from the way so everyone else has,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know, them shouting at me, deploying chemical liritons,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they love to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>They do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really out right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah about chemistry, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Show vapors, smokes, particulates.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. I think Greg Abbott was like recently saying

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<v Speaker 1>something about like just with like Glee talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the pepper balls that were being like fired at protesters.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cool, yeah, very unpleasant and peppable.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean I have to assume that they're recruiting

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of you know, chemical engineers people like that

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<v Speaker 3>and to be like interested in chemistry. So are we yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>come through or maybe not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they are. I think that they're recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>in other areas if anything. Yeah, or like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like amateur geneticists. Yeah, that's probably pretty hot right into

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<v Speaker 1>like phenotypes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Skull shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, we've got some Calipa guys who do

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<v Speaker 2>the phrenology. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, James, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about on today's episode. We are going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the the Trump administrations continued attempt at I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna say damage control, but you can't really call

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<v Speaker 3>it damage control because they're like, they're doing this while

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<v Speaker 3>releasing Hitler quote posters from the Department of Labor, So

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to control the narrative by putting it in

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<v Speaker 3>an illegal choke hold. I think is probably the best

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<v Speaker 3>way to describe what they're doing. We'll talk about Christy

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<v Speaker 3>Gnome on CNN and just other attempts from them to

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<v Speaker 3>put what happened last week in Minneapolis and context and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll of course talk about the upcoming you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL playoffs kicked off over the weekend, which to me

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<v Speaker 3>just means that we're one step closer to that turning point.

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<v Speaker 3>USA halftime Show. Yeah, so we we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>what the latest is on that, and then we'll also

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Soron's first week in office, what he's up to,

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<v Speaker 3>all of that plenty more. But first, James, we do

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<v Speaker 3>like to ask our guests, what is something from your

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<v Speaker 3>search history that's revealing about who you are?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this. First of all, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think you should use a search engine that keeps history

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty six in the American moment. But I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at some ship I searched. I've been buying some

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<v Speaker 2>really niche tomato seeds recently, So.

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder, no wonder.

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<v Speaker 5>You're on the love right, Yeah, you want to keep

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<v Speaker 5>it on the d L. Yeah, but the VP browser

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<v Speaker 5>niche tomato seed sounds so funny to me. But also

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<v Speaker 5>hold on, what is a niche tomato seed?

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<v Speaker 2>To begin, You've got your like mainstream tomatoes, right, we

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<v Speaker 2>go to the garden center, you get your tomato. It's

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<v Speaker 2>red crown to cherry whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you take it to the ones. I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>know cherry, I know vine ripened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not actually variety, Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, an heirloom yep is what I was assuming

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking when we get to the world of

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<v Speaker 3>niche to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, Yeah, when I was a lot younger, I worked

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<v Speaker 2>in it in a tomato growing facility, So I've been

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<v Speaker 2>exposed a lot of types of Tomorrow. Yeah, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to chip job, go and work. Was just marveling

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<v Speaker 2>at the way you say tomorrow. It's the one I

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<v Speaker 2>ride for the American accent. I'm like, it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>much better. The British accent that much better. But you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you got our ass on tomato. It's much better that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had a few l's over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's we're trying to condense all of ours into a

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<v Speaker 1>real umultuous twenty years. That really Yeah, takes the focus

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<v Speaker 1>under the heirloom umbrella.

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<v Speaker 2>Under the umbrella. Yeah, but then you're more niche types, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this one I like called orange Strawberry. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>going that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Not actually, James, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going to say, yeah, those are fruits.

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<v Speaker 2>That is Tomorrow is a fruit, right ya.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you got me there. So are you just

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<v Speaker 3>talking about oranges and strong think of them as tomatoes?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people didn't have frames of

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<v Speaker 2>reference back in the day. That's just they either call

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<v Speaker 2>it that or like they just call it like after

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<v Speaker 2>their friend. Paul Robison is the other tomato I've been

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<v Speaker 2>been ordering Paul, Yeah, like the guy like they just

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<v Speaker 2>went to went to the Spanish Civil War, the poet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, and it's he has a tomato named after him.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. Yeah. I thought that was tweet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like somebody, somebody like created this this tomato variety. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they went to the greenhouse, they did the work, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, what am I going to call it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna call it after myself. I respect this dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give this tomato to his legacy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So what a what a momo tato? Tomato also be

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<v Speaker 1>considered one of those niche tomatoes or is that mainstream still?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a Japanese like hybrid. Okay, like farmers at

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<v Speaker 1>farmers markets too that I'm yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think if it's a farmer's market only thing, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not its like supermarket, right niche. It's when you can't

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<v Speaker 2>buy them as plants, when you have to buy them

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<v Speaker 2>as seeds. That's when you know you're really deep in

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<v Speaker 2>Like is it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It illegal to get the seeds from abroad? Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's all above board.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to inside the US. It might be illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>You do sign that form right, Like do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any seeds fruits that I know? Yeah, when you come

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<v Speaker 2>back into the US that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what that's what I say, I say, not that

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<v Speaker 1>I know of. Meanwhile, my old jack, my whole jacket

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<v Speaker 1>is made of tomato seeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like it's like one of those bird feeders

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<v Speaker 3>all stuck together.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeds those lodge you covered yourself in loud and then

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<v Speaker 2>rolled into my ship kind of birds.

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<v Speaker 1>Also fun, These aren't my birds, man, Tell me I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want them with me, Tell me get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>They just attract birds man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and the more niche tomatoes are we are we

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with different flavors. They have anything that approximates the

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<v Speaker 3>cotton candy grape. I love when they're like oh yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the sweet fruit. Can we make it candy though,

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<v Speaker 3>But do they have a pizza tomato?

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<v Speaker 2>I bet they do? What this pizza tomato are gano

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<v Speaker 2>built in and like middle not that I'm aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>You could growe them next to each other though, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, in the same pot, like a companion planting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do basil. Yeah, I've got a good basil

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<v Speaker 2>plant going. You can't do like you know how you

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<v Speaker 2>can do with citrus where you graft different citrus onto

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<v Speaker 2>the same tree and you can have like a yeah

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<v Speaker 2>two t fruity tree. Never seen that done.

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<v Speaker 1>With Well you can do that with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, man, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Have like a definite they call them fruit salad trees. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you get them, get them grafted together. But that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not really possible. Cheese by the nature of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming from it coming from a different place.

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<v Speaker 3>Cheese plants have all failed. YEA sad, no matter what

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<v Speaker 3>what brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I take a baby, I take it out of their

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<v Speaker 1>wax and I bury it and I water it.

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<v Speaker 3>What is something that you think is underrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Underrated? I was thinking about this. I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>sock gifts, you know, like we just had Christmas right

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<v Speaker 2>or hanakah or ponto or whatever people are doing. They

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<v Speaker 2>get gifts, and people always like rag on getting socks

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<v Speaker 2>as a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, sure, sure, I'm actually.

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<v Speaker 2>A high quality sock. Appreciate it. Last year I received

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<v Speaker 2>a full like right same size, right right size form

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<v Speaker 2>my feet, but in different thicknesses. Oh sock brand. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's great, man, because I can just adjust, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get a bit warmer, get a bit cold's boots, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit loose, go thick a sock. Great gift. I

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<v Speaker 2>really I love use them all the time. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>touch them every day?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you. I have to say, if I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna trust someone's opinion on socks, it would be you

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<v Speaker 1>someone who runs a lot, who has like to run

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<v Speaker 1>traversed quite harrowing kinds of geography through the course of

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<v Speaker 1>their journalistic career. Wait, what, so, what's like? What what

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking here?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>If you need a good sock, it's not where we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking marino wool. It's had to be woolf Okay, So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be wool, or we're not talking to

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<v Speaker 1>James about socks. Okay, Yeah, remember what's okay, what's the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Marino wool and our pack a wool both pretty good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so these are like wolves again. Wolf socks are nice

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<v Speaker 2>because they keep they say warm. When they're wet, they

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<v Speaker 2>get less funky, they get less smelly, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>gotta they gotta fit right right there. Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to name brands?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if paying you, you know what I mean. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just need to know. I guess that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>thing is because I always know people who are like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta wear wool socks, like all the people you're

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<v Speaker 1>serious about socks, Like, what the fuck are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>if not wearing wolf socks?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, And then you've got to get the ones with

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime warranty so you can you can wear them.

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<v Speaker 2>You can run eight hundred miles in them. They wear out,

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<v Speaker 2>you send them back, they send you new socks. Oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an investment.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, man. I have Yeah, the way the way I walk,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really use my big toe to like balance myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That like I feel like I really wear out the

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<v Speaker 1>big toe real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, they get you got to get invest in

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<v Speaker 2>some lifetime warranty socks and you'll be sucking forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the gas station I buy him at. The guys

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<v Speaker 1>always coming to get the fuck out when I show.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, I will invest the wool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so wolf socks even even like when you're playing sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Woolf socks. Yeah, yeah, like thin ones, you know when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like thick, hairy, fluffy ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, especially when I'm playing sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've run some ultramarathons, and it's nice because you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go through a river at one point or other, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you you want the sock that doesn't sort

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<v Speaker 2>of oh yeah, you get get funky, get old, get

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<v Speaker 2>your feet cold. And I feel like Will does much

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<v Speaker 2>better with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not going to be going through a river,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. You may be, but I will not

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<v Speaker 3>be running America. I come upon a river, you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, at the end of the America finish line,

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<v Speaker 3>there's only like there's only like six hundred meters left.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah about this river, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And the river is a gift man. I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>did a few has to go to two hundred mile

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<v Speaker 2>bike rades, very hot, really hot day, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a river crossing. I just got off my bike, went

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<v Speaker 2>in there, bathed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt great after that, sat there for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wonderful thing. Embrace the river.

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<v Speaker 1>Bathing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I fell into one in Iceland that was not

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<v Speaker 2>not an enjoyable experience. That was very cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a cold plunged person? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do any of that. I mean not consciously.

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<v Speaker 2>I go in the sea and uh in San Diego,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's it's cold quite a lot. It's cold right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're not doing the thing of like I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get into this body of ice water. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not whim hoffing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>And how on the socks that go thick to thin?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the thinnest sock the equivalent of those little pantyhose

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<v Speaker 3>things that they put over your feet when you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>on shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty thin. Yeah. Maybe maybe maybe a smudge, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a smug stick of it that I can't see through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't use it as a mask to rob

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<v Speaker 1>a b No, do an immigration rate whatever you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Or socks not for ice?

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<v Speaker 3>What are something you think is overrated?

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<v Speaker 2>The song fairy Tale of New York Okay Okay by

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<v Speaker 2>the Pogues. I love the Pokes, right. I think Shane

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<v Speaker 2>McGowan's generational talent to objection to that song right, has

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<v Speaker 2>a homophobic slur and expresses positive sentiments about NYPD.

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<v Speaker 1>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't need either of those. Rainy Night and

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<v Speaker 2>Soho is a much better Christmas e pokes song if

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<v Speaker 2>you know that one?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? I don't know. I don't know either

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<v Speaker 1>these songs.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't heard fairy Tale in New.

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<v Speaker 3>York let me see as big as bars. They got rivers,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all I got.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this really well. Okay, well you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to fund YouTube half hour after we're done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what's Shane McGowan singing it? Because his ability to turn

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<v Speaker 2>up absolutely think of a broadcast word. He's off his face,

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<v Speaker 2>he's drunk, ship fist. Yeah, rat asked? Is the word

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to use? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there a specific performance I should watch

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<v Speaker 1>for the rat assery.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? If you had asked the opposite question, is there

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<v Speaker 3>is already together?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is that was that?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 1>The that is that kind of the legend of this

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>group is just sort of him as front man and

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>his antics or there's more to the I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard that name of the band, but I don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>completely ignorant as to like what their work.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, like Irish folk punk. I would say, no, they're great.

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 2>They have some really great songs. I think they've done

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<v Speaker 2>good things and like documenting Irish folk music and I

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.159
<v Speaker 2>struggle of Irish people being colonized by British people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, they're they're they're a good band. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the Pokes a lot. Everyone should listen to the Pogues.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't, but that song they feel like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>how everyone likes Rock the Casma, but it's the worst

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>clash song right right, right right, Okay, it's a similar

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<v Speaker 2>similar feeling I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I see, you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break while

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Miles watches a bunch of Pogues videos and uh, we'll

0:20:52.480 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 3>be right back, and we're back, We're back and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so this weekend was a weird mix of we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the video that was released where they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>check and mate, we got the video from the shooter's perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you're gonna see some ship here that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna change your mind, And it was like worse than

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<v Speaker 3>the other angle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it it's one of my colleagues mentioned this

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<v Speaker 2>when we were talking about it, like I'll work chat

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<v Speaker 2>it is start of think that your lawyer would fight

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<v Speaker 2>to keep out of disclosure in court, right, and just

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they just tweeted it. Let's put out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, not a lot of thought going into it.

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's also interesting too, Like it I

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 1>was saying yesterday's episode that on some level maybe they

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think that would help justify it to their base, which

0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, there's at least you got this angle

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<v Speaker 1>of the wife saying something back to the ice officer,

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<v Speaker 1>which in their mind because that a lot of people

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>jumped onto that details like why she getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car trying to confront the ice officer and like

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<v Speaker 1>what do they think is going to happen? So in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, I think they were trying to take it

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<v Speaker 1>from the headline, which is like this mother who was

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<v Speaker 1>killed to like someone who was protesting ice who was

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<v Speaker 1>also a mother who was killed, to try and give

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>people just sort of like that weird logical, you know,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 1>bit of something that like MAGA needs to completely contort

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>their brains and be like, that's not what I saw. Actually,

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's this other thing now, and that's okay now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to talk about it because it makes

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<v Speaker 1>whatever uncomfortable or maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>Backtalk is a capital offense, it was kind of the implication. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And so Christynome attempted to go on CNN and then

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<v Speaker 3>Jake Tapper was just like, so, if anybody gives any

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<v Speaker 3>sort of pushback at all to the Homeland Security they

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<v Speaker 3>should be killed. She's like, yes, absolutely, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, here's the video of January sixth. Yeah, how

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 3>are we making sense of that? And she didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't really know what to say to that. No

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<v Speaker 3>great answer.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So here's a Tapper just playing the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the body cam footage we've seen from January sixth

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<v Speaker 1>and just sort of narrating to be like, okay, so

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.239
<v Speaker 1>interfering with law enforcement is a capital offense, and how

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<v Speaker 1>about this plea attack?

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<v Speaker 7>By this standard, would any of those officers being justified

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<v Speaker 7>and shooting and killing the people causing them physical harm?

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<v Speaker 8>Every single situation is going to rely on the situation

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 8>those officers are on. But they know that when people

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<v Speaker 8>are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons

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<v Speaker 8>against them, when they are physically harming them, that they

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<v Speaker 8>have the authority to arrest those individuals, every single one

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<v Speaker 8>of those less and make sure that they're getting justice

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<v Speaker 8>for their actions going forward rosident.

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<v Speaker 7>Trump pardoned every single one of those and every.

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<v Speaker 8>Single one of these investigations comes in the full context

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<v Speaker 8>of the situation on the ground, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's just again it becomes a bunch of words

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. Yeah, well, it's all in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of the the context of people beating them with we

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>just said beating with weapons, and we just saw a

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>clip of that, smushing them indoors, punching them using bear sproll.

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was gonna say, do these people be

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>deserved the arrested? I said, every single one of them,

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>every single one of them. See, when every single one

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>of these situations is a case by case thing, which again,

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>this is just I'd imagine the hallmark of any authoritarian

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>regime to be like, no, what you're seeing is not

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>what you're seeing, and in fact, everything we do is justified,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you disagree with me, you you are actually

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<v Speaker 1>the bad one. Yeah, there was more like it goes

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on to where he keeps insisting, like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, the person who this ICE agent who shot

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>her was he's doing a defense. We know that he

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>was justified in doing it. And Jake Tapper pretty quickly

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>is like, I feel like you just there's no investigation.

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>We still don't know what's going on in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've clearly made up your mind. Is that is that

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<v Speaker 1>a benefit or is that a disservice to this ICE

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>agent that you so clearly care so much about. And

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because here she does like another word salad

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that like causes Jake Tapper to just audibly groan

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>because again it's another non answer. It's just a bunch

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of what about isms and deflections.

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<v Speaker 3>I think obfuscation is his kink, and I think he's

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 3>actually coming a little bit.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But go, oh, well, well, do you let your be

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the judge? Yeah, yours to say through.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm wondering if you're not doing a disservice to the

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<v Speaker 7>officer by reaching a conclusion before the investigation.

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<v Speaker 8>Things heard you say once, what a disservice it's done

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<v Speaker 8>for may Or Fry to get up and to Ice

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 8>to get the f out of his city. AOC to

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 8>stand up before she had any of the facts and

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 8>call this officer a murderer. Your individuals, well call them out, Jake,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 8>spend as much time calling them out. I have provided

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 8>you with facts and information to back up every single

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 8>word that we have said and every single part of

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 8>this investigation. And if you don't like it, that's fine,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 8>but we're going to continue to do the right thing

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 8>to keep the American people safe.

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 3>And that was not us coming up that during that answer,

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 3>that was Jake.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>That was Jake groaning, because again, it's just like a

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>stone wall. You're talking about something this consequential, and it's

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>just you get just fucking nonsense, just chest passed right

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>back to you. And yeah, it doesn't bode well too.

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>That.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you then have Tom Homan, who's the you know,

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>borders are He also had to go on the Sunday

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Shows two to do their whole like presentation to mainstream

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>media about why this is okay. Christian Welker pretty much

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>point blank was like, look the way you're talking, the

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way Christy Nome's talking, she called good a domestic terrorist.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Can we just define what that is? Are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who doesn't like ICE or is protesting and this

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is you get this very eloquent answer back from Tom Homan.

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Terrorist.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to be clear, is anyone who protests ICE a

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 4>domestic terrorist in the eyes of the administration. I can't

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 4>say that. You know, it's a case by case basis.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 4>But you know, if you look up definition of terrorism,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 4>is there violence? Is there a threat of violence based

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 4>on an ideology that wants to change the way the

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 4>government does what we do? Look on the definition terrorism.

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 6>With Secretary Nome correct to label her a domestic terrorist.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Mister Homan, look, we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what I don't know. If Secretary Nome knows what

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 4>I know, I can tell you is what they did.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 4>It's all legal. And if you look up this definition

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 4>of terrorism.

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Here he goes goes right back to it very narrowly. If

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you again, I mean like that that term terrorism is

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<v Speaker 1>made to sort of used by the States to describe

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>people that are like against me not And but again

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>in American culture, it's like that means the boogey man

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>al Qaeda nine to eleven, And you're one of these people.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Now because what you're just again purely off the definition

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of like they are against what we're doing and trying

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to change.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 9>The put like through a political ideology. Therefore you're allowed

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 9>to do that. Yeah, in America, you're allowed to do that, right,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 9>try and change what we're doing. Yeah, voice just what?

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Nah? Is it cool if I sound a little bit

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>drunk while I'm making this point?

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Is that?

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 9>Ye?

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Because are really loose? Yeah, let me sound a little bit.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>That's it sounds like a drunken barn cat. You gotta understanding,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>do we, Chris No, I gotta put my Danjerts in

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better to the Uh. Yeah, it's it's wild, James.

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious too, Like, in the context, especially in your book,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about people who also find themselves in quite

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary situations. You know, people living their lives and then

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>they come up against a state that is violently trying

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to upend their way of living, deeming everything they believe

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>in or their way of life illegal. What is where

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>do you kind of put the this this situation right

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>now sort of in the context of a lot of

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the things you've seen in terms of you know, people

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>led revolutions and things like that.

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it's not a good situation that we're in

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, fuck I actually I know you were saying,

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>they're like when they say anybody who protests against them

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>as a terrorist, I was hoping you said that that's

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>actually the the that they're usually going to call it off. Yeah,

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>that's their last step before the before they give we're

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 3>we're good here at.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember in twenty twenty two, early twenty twenty two,

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I was speaking to this young guy who was part

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>of the unit called the gen Z Army in Mianma

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and really like really nice young man, right, Like he

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 2>was kind of one of the reasons I wanted to

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>write this book because the way he talked about how

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>they organize themselves lines up with what I would consider

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 2>to be anarchism. Right, they didn't have authority structures, say,

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 2>they obtained consensus before doing stuff, and that he was like, Yeah,

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>for years, we'd hear the government talk about terrorists and

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>we'd be like, well, shit, that's awful, hope those guys die.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And then we saw the government, we saw the military

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>seize like the power from the elected government. Right, not

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>a great election, but election nonetheless, and now they call

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>us terrorists and we're not terrorists like, and we realized

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>that that's just that's just shit that they say. They

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>are the ones who are trying to make people afraid

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and to execute political change through fear. And I thought

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it was really interesting to see him and that word

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>in Burmese that he was using is very loaded rights.

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a word that I wouldn't I wouldn't want to

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>use to describe them still, and I sometimes don't even

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>use rebels because I know it can be translated in

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that way and people can feel like it's it's disrespectful.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But for him, he's like, yeah, I give a shit

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and call me what they want. They're out there killing

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>people like they're doing worse stuff and calling me names,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and like it's very clear which one of us is

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 2>a bad guy here?

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? I mean again that especially in American culture,

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it's such a thought killer as a description when you

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>just say terrorists, yeah and bad, instantly bad, no further

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>analysis needed. If you say domestic, oh, domestic terrorist means

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a person that lives here and is bad versus the

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>other one, which most people just go they just think

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>like Islamic extremism or something like that, and just yeah,

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>straight to isis and yeah, because they use the same

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of language that in rhetoric they've used for the

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>last three death three four decades to describe like other

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>kinds of extremist terrorism, like it's a whole network, okay,

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that they're part of a network, you understand, and like

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they're there in a cell of other terrorists in this network,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>rather than I think what most people saw I feel,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>which is like this is just a person who again

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is in their community saying what the fuck is going on?

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to record this And sure, maybe getting being

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in the road maybe quote unquote illegal or a violation,

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>but in terms of that leading to a summary execution

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>or just being shot just without any kind of anything. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where most people are like, yeah, but

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that's this is a lot. And yeah, I'm I'm wondering too,

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>how when it will help, Like how quickly American people

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>also see, like how cheap this this sort of descriptor

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>or like just casting anyone as getting in the way

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>as terrorism or terrorist will kind of hold up because

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they seem to really think that that is their like

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of rhetorical strategy here. It's keep saying this person

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is a terrorist or anyone that is not doesn't like

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Ice is a terrorist, and maybe we have enough logical

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>cover to keep doing this.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's I mean, I was I'm thinking. I

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>think a lot about like the situation in Meanmar, right,

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Like how it began. It's like these big, peaceful protests

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>and it became a revolution that now has liberated half

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the country from the government, and like there were little

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>they are little rubicons they crossed all along the way.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Another river crossing reference, but uh this time, like I

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>remember the first time the cops shot somewhat and people

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>were just like shit, Like these are the stakes, right,

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Like this is a game we're playing and there's a

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>choice there that people have, right, It's like do And

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>this happened in the Syrian revolution that have not all

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 2>across the Arab spring, right, it's happening in Iran right now.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>People were like, well, are we willing to play game

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>where the stakes are our lives? Or are we willing

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to live the rest of our lives subjected? And obviously

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>in the US and theory we have elections coming up,

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>but that's not necessarily the case. But that wasn't the

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>case in in Membar, in Sirior, and it's not in Iran,

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and people were like, you know what, fuck you, We're

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>all going to come out now, Like more of us

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>will show up, tens of thousands of US will show

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>up at this young woman's funeral in Memmar, right and

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>be like we're not afraid of you. And those little

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>rubicuns that they crossed, Like what made their movement what

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>it is today because they weren't they considered it to

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>be worth it, I guess, And like that's what every

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 2>every movement has to face. And like it's pretty pretty

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>disturbing to think that that's what we're facing in the US.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you can be executed for a traffic infraction, right,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of where we're at, right, Like people can

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>be killed in the street and the government is going

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>to investigate and find themselves innocent in five minutes on Twitter.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty bleak. What's wild? There's

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>like you know a lot of people I say, like

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it's all of these weapons we use abroader coming back

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>home to roost, you know, the same, this is the

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>same justification the US military will use to kill innocent

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>people and other quot war zones, and like, well, that

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>was a terrorist and like that looked like a family.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's your just description to kind of keep things

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>moving along to not you know, to not bring people's

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>attention to the humanity of it. And yeah, I mean

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where seeing all that is really Yeah,

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's alarming, which is like it doesn't even

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>suffice in terms of like a word to I feel

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>like Susan Collins right now, it is alarming right now

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to see what is happening.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we're going to ask questions and wait for

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the investigation that them. And it feels like the DHS

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 3>crossed like three rubicons in the last week basically love.

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.959
<v Speaker 3>They're just skipping over those motherfuckers. They're skipping the rubicons.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. And I'm also curious, like because rhetorically too,

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you see out of the administration more and more of

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this like ethno nationalist propaganda come out from official channels

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>as like these like you know, very Nazi inspired posters

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or phrases and things like that. But do you see

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that as sort of them trying to like shore up

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>support from people that will be receptive to seeing that

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of message or do you think that's them projecting

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>onto the viewing public. This is what this is the

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>hymnal we're singing from. Now you can get in line,

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like what or is that just trolling? I mean, how

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>do you look at that and sort of like the

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>larger power picture of it all.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think some of it's just trolling, right.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Some of it's just like they get a little little

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 2>excited thrilled because they've got some like someone who's probably

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like twenty one years old, it's manning that Twitter account

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 2>right like that that, and so some of it's they

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 2>they've been doing it for years and now they're doing

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>it on a government website and it's very exciting for them.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think some of it is trying to

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>tie that narrative to their narrative, right, or to try

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and like gradually move their base towards this open blood

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and soil position, which like they haven't really been that

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 2>subtle about to begin with r right, Like that's where

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they're at now, Like it moved and the Overton you know,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know about the Overton window right at the window

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>of acceptable political discourse, Like it's it's like the Overton

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>windows blown out the wall in terms of like it's

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a hole in the building, right, Yeah. Yeah, the outside

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>of the building has gone now.

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Expanded, the overton window of the Oklahoma City Federal Yeah

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 3>they yeah. And I feel like because nothing sticks to

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 3>them that they can just be like, yeah, we're gonna

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 3>do that, but yeah, why not. It'll it'll reach the

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>audience that we wanted to reach, and it'll piss off

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 3>other people. But the pissing off other people doesn't have

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 3>any consequences, right, so we're just going to keep going.

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, Or it's just owning the Libs, right, which

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>is a goal and an end in itself.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's funny, right, which is odd because I

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>mean not odd, I mean like if it's such a

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>fundamental misreading of America from like the MAGA politicians, because

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like you even see quotes or like like from DHS

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>spokespeople other politicians are saying, like, people, you gotta quit protesting,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>like saying it like, knock it off, like quit protesting

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 1>DHS and ICE guys like let them do their jobs.

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, what quit protest? What as if you

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't expect this to be the natural reaction of human

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>beings to see people just kidnaps by armed goons or

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>entering people's homes like that. That it's like, guys, quick,

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>prote what's going on? What's with all this protesting now?

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm curious. That's the other part is do you

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.439
<v Speaker 1>see anything in sort of the actions of the current

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>administration is like sort of like the hallmarks of a

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>truly like sort of weak regime trying to project as

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>much power as possible, or how do you how do

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you look at their actions in terms of like what

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, how the structural integrity of their movement is right, yeah, yep.

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean what they're going for is like there's this

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>thing at the end of chapter seven of nineteen eighty

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>four that I think about a lot, where these or

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Well says, people fucking love to be wrong about all Well.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess I should just start that, like the amount

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 2>of people who like to cite all Well whilst also

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 2>being the sort of people who all Well signed up

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to kill in the Spanish Civil War, like in.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty four was written about the Biden administration.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Just want to be yah, yeah, yeah, mostly concerned vaccines

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>and your kids not going to school, having to be

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 2>in the same space as your kids and you hate

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>them and they hate you, and yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>what It's a book about divorced dads. In Wrotdown, he says,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the party told you not to trust your eyes and ears.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>It was their final, most important command. And like that

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>is where we are at this week, right, Like that is,

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 2>but that is a ten year project, Donald Trump writing

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>down at an escalator ten years ago, shit talking Mexican

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 2>people eleven years ago, right, and they have gradually been

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 2>stacking bricks since then to get to this place where

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>they can, like you said earlier, right, they can post

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>a video of a dude who is for some reason

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>filming on his personal phone whilst doing copshit, who then

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>shoots a lady three times in the face and be like, see,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>seems totally cool, because they're going to tell you it's

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 2>totally cool, and you're going to watch it and believe them.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>And that is the totalitarian project, right, that they can

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>intervene in between the external world and you drawing conclusions

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>from the external world, and have you draw the conclusion

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that they want, right, Like, I there's that's scary, right

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>if whatever percentage of people will buy that, and it's

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not just a problem. I guess with Republicans. There's

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>like a sort of conspiratorial wing of Democrats who do

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. But it is overwhelmingly a problem right

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>now because the government is using it to justify murdering people. Right,

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that is what we should be focused on. And that's

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty scary, man. Like, I mean, any state there resorts

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>to violence, like deliberately does it because that is the

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>nature of the state. It doesn't mean that they're threatened, right,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 2>like that, the state at its core is the entity

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>that controls violence in a geographical area. Sure, sure it

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>always has been, right, that's what it is.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>They aren't allowed to use violence.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, they have the molopoly on legitimate violence, the

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 2>verbarian definition of the state. Right, So I think them

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>using violence is not an indication of weakness us. But

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>like them having to resort to violence so much, it's

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 2>not great, Like that's why they've gone so hard on

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 2>this blitz, right they get they straight up murdered a

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>white lady in the middle of the day, and like

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>it probably does matter that it's a white lady in

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 2>this country still, right, because a lot of suburban folks

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>can see themselves in the late dragon the mini bad

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>enough to dropping herself from school, dropping her kids at school.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 2>And if they can do that and walk away from

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it without consequences, that's pretty bad, right, It's pretty bad

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 2>for any any any checks on power. So I guess

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.439
<v Speaker 2>we're going to find out in the next few days.

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Here, Yeah, America the place where it's like, well, I

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>have to see it happen to someone exactly like me before.

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Right now, Yeah, she don't look that much like me, actually, right, yeah,

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 3>But do you see anything in the very beginnings of

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>nascent US resistance that kind of you've seen elsewhere that

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, you've talked about kind of resistance witnessing some

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 3>of these resistance groups like the gen Z Army, But

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>like you know, I think a lot of people in

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 3>the US feel helpless or like, well, what can we do?

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 3>And you know there's also people who are protesting and resisting.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.479
<v Speaker 3>But what just how do you how do you view

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 3>like the state of American resistance?

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so. Like the reason I write the

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>book like it's not it's not like to be clear

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 2>like a guide book or explaining how to do things,

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>But I hope it reminds people that really beautiful things

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>can happen out of really dark times. And like again,

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 2>if I go, if you go back to the early

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Arab spring, or perhaps the early protests in mem is

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.240
<v Speaker 2>a better example. Right in twenty twenty one, after the coup,

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>first everyone went out with like funny signs like what

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 2>I can remember one person had one that said say

0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>no to dictatorship, yes to relationship, and like stuff like.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 3>That, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>There was like a lot of a lot of like

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>young adult sexual tension, like don't fuck my country, fuck

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>my friend and has a little arrow and stuff. But

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>they were doing that because they thought that if they

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>were funny and peaceful, the world would be like, these

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>guys are cool, we should help them. And the world

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 2>did not do shit, right, And for months people adhere

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.720
<v Speaker 2>to the idea of peaceful protests because they genuinely thought

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 2>it would help. And like people are hero are doing

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>to peaceful protests because they generally believe that it will

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>make a difference. And I hope it does.

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 4>But like.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>One potential direction, it's a direction I guess at them,

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a direction that US will go

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in necessarily, right, Like I think's quite likely that US

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>will fragment in the way Meandmark has done because we

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>don't have many of the factors that they had. But

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 2>every one of these revolutionary movements starts like this, and

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>some of them end up in open armed conflict. Right,

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Like the Arab's ring was the same. Right, it was

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>thousands of people coming out into the street, like we've

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 2>seen in Minneapolis. Right, Like, that is how these movements

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that result in change, or they all begin that way. Right.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to be fighting against the government because it's hard,

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>lots of people die, and so everything, I guess begins

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 2>where we're at. Not everything, by any means ends where

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 2>they are at. But right, I can see and I

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 2>think so much of the young people in the m

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 2>are especially, so much of their discourse on politics was

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 2>informed by having the Internet, learning English and learning from

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 2>people in the US. So they just assumed that the

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 2>same tools would work there. Right, But you had a

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>different to take calculus there.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 2>If they can kill one hundred and fifty people in

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a single day at a protest that they did in Myanmar, right,

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole other scale compared to what we're dealing

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 2>with in the US. And it's understandable why things have

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>gone in the direction of people fighting back that.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is interesting, like the tone of the signs.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're a little bit different this weekend, Like.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one's trying to be funny anymore.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, La, definitely We've had some real, you know, funny

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>sign I mean like every American city too, but this

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>weekend felt it was truly about like like saying like

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Renane Nicole Good was murdered. Ice are murders a ball?

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Like just a lot of the it became less about

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>who has the best SpongeBob meme, and it translated like

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>not to say that every sign was like that, but

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>when now that you say that that that was an

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>observation I had from the.

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean you saw that in twenty twenty

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 2>as well, right, Like I didn't think anyone was trying

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to be funny about the murder of George No, No,

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 2>people were fucking mad.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like the funniest things were just like insulting cops

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's yeah, oh, that was a creative insult to

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>for a police officer. But that was like the extent

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>rather than like, what's I quip about this unjustified police killing.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and those skit skits where they like dressed up

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 3>as cops and like kept like slipping on ice and

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 3>like we're like slipping and then their gun would go

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>off and.

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>That was That's a real video jacket, like ice sky slipping.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>There's like a whole mixtape that I felt like, I've

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>seen like five different videos on people just being like

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to run on this icy sidewalk. Okay, genius. Yeah,

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean the vest doesn't protect your cocktics. Okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back, and we're back, all right, real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a little sidebar over to the world of

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 3>pop culture popular culture. The super Bowl is in sight.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 3>The NFL playoffs kicked off this weekend, and is that all?

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Anything good happened in the NFL play I saw it

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:04.479
<v Speaker 1>the Eagle game.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Did the Eagles lose? The Eagles lost?

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw people celebrating.

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Champion Eagles lost. Josh Allen, husband of the actress from

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Singers whose name is Escaping Me, had a bit had

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 3>a big game. Big wait second win, just wait?

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<v Speaker 1>What the state? What singers?

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 3>The Sinners singers? Yeah, Hailey Steinfeld, Hailey Steinfeld's husband.

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Hailey, ste Wow, bro, I don't know anything about anything,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay anyway, so they're okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the big football weekend. Big weekend for those of

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<v Speaker 3>us who can't wait to see what turning point USA

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 3>has cooked up the Super Bowl show.

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Ever since Bad Bunny, one of the most listened to

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>artists on the planet, was announced at the halftime show, obviously,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the MAGA freakouts began because A they don't know that

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Ricans are American and b that doesn't matter because

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>they're racist.

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 3>But and that people don't actually listen to music. Man,

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 3>come on, that's that's inflated. It's all bots, dude, that's bots, dude.

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>There's not even a billion people to listen to Bad

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Buddy that many times.

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 3>Man, that's right.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, countries outside the West grossly infliation.

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Do you see the new conspiracy theory that the world

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 3>population is vastly overstated and that countries from outside the

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 3>US are just inflating their numbers to get aid from

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>the sake. Yeah, this one. I feel like this one's

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 3>going to be real powerful. I feel like people, oh,

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.320
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna love this one. That we're actually like that,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 3>there's like only like a couple thousand people.

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, So here's my thing. What's the most people

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen in one place at once? Maybe what

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:53.720
<v Speaker 1>sixty thousand at the Rose Bowl? But yeah, so true

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>turning point in true reactionary fashion. Right at the top

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>after the bad Buddy thing was like, what an American

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>are artist who's really popular for a global sporting event

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>is doing the halftime show? Well, I think we will

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 1>announce ourselves of the true keepers of white American football

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.240
<v Speaker 1>halftime show and said that they would have their own

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>competing halftime show that will stun audiences with how white

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and boring it is. And like you said, Jack, we're

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>getting closer to the game and many are asking in

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the press, Hey, toilet paper USA, what's the deal with

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>your shit? Dude? Are you guys like, who's fucking performing?

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So a spokesperson confirmed a few things for us to TMZ.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the show is death. The show is.

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Definitely happening, sweet, but you'll have to tune in to

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 1>find out who's performing.

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh really okay.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And then they were asked, do you even have performers booked?

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>This is the turning point? Spokesperson Oh, there's performers booked,

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but we can't reveal who they are or even what

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of performer they are.

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Happy to ventriloquist. I do like they're taking a different direction.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 3>I think they might go like ventriloquist, like, yeah, there's

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 3>gonna be some like NBA halftime show type people, you know,

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 3>like the like spinning a plate on a stick and

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 3>like people who ride multiple unicycles. You know, well that

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 3>thing keeps getting bigger. This guy's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Where will the show be taking place? The answer yes,

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 1>mm hmmm, oh okay, will it be airing live? Or

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>their answer, uh huh yeah, yeah sure. There's a lot

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:48.399
<v Speaker 1>of tvvs UH to to actually get here. I do

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>wonder if Nicki Minaj just fully throws herself into the

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Maga mount Doom fires and gets it over with, because

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>she was on stage at a turning point event and

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 1>it's clearly been like, look, I don't know if you've

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>read anything about my husband or any but I might

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>need a pardon. So I'm gonna start, you know, sipping

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the Maga kool aid with everybody. She's I think the

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>only person that comes close to being quote unquote considered

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like considered quote unquote mainstream who has actually even been

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to a turning point event or although quote unquote popular

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>right right, and even now, I mean so many fans

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 1>have been like, geez, y'all, we were trying to ride

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:26.240
<v Speaker 1>with you through all this stuff.

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what has the response been to that appearance? Like,

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 3>because they know she has famously like die hard fans,

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people were like, this, this whole

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>thing's become a joke. Makes sense whatever I was done

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with her after, you know, just all the other shit

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that she's been doing the last couple of years. Other

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>people are just kind of like maybe not talking about it.

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But most of the response from like the you know,

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 1>black audience have been like okay, and you can go

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sit all the way the fuck down over there with them, goodbye.

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But the other it does feel like this would be

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>ripe for some AI company to be like, hey, hey, hey,

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can get fucking Elvis to perform at

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the show, just so you know, I can get Elvis,

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>I can get fucking Johnny Cash, and I can get

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Francis Scott Key to do that. One verse of The

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Star Spangled Banner where they talk about the slavery and stuff.

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, well, yeah, I mean Johnny Cash and Elvis,

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.280
<v Speaker 3>They're still gonna need to pay some money, Like they're

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna write some budget those people have. I'm wondering, like

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 3>how far back they're gonna have to go to get

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like some public Maybe it is Francis Scott Key, Yeah,

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:35.359
<v Speaker 3>and Andrew Jackson gives a speech about the trailer tears.

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Or something fucked up ship and they're like, and this

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>is entertainment.

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Al Jolson.

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, God, I honestly don't It's just so

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>hard to picture what this is gonna be and how

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>they could claim this as any kind of like win

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>for them, but they will obviously no matter what state

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the show is in. But wow, I can't.

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Wait, truly can't wait to see after the fact, like

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 3>what what they've put out there, because it's as we've seen,

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 3>like as they try and take over even things like

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon Press Corps, and they're just like, yeah, those

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 3>those are now influencers. There's just a bunch of influencers.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 3>It like it, it looks like it. It looks like

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 3>a high school journalism class out there, you know, not

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 3>not the age of the people, but just like the

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 3>type of questions and the level of professionalism, So like,

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 3>what are we going to see? I mean, the one

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 3>thing that we've seen they're able to do is buy

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.479
<v Speaker 3>a lot of fireworks. That seems to be their ones

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 3>their one strength. So maybe maybe it's going to be

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 3>just like a lot of fireworks and you can't really

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 3>tell who's up there.

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It's Eric Kirk, Erica Kirk setting off a pile of

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>fireworks and a fucking parking lot in Tucson.

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's like San Diego did that one time, you know,

0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 2>set them all off at once, like yeah, giant explosion.

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Catastrophic explosion. Well, look, don't tune in because I'm sure

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it once it happens.

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Let us no need whatsoever. I certainly won't be watching

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 3>it live, but I can't wait to see how it

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 3>goes for them.

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, firefest all over again.

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there is there. They had the poster that

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 3>was like kid Rock.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Is another one. Yeah, yeah he could be there. Yeah,

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 2>but that was the like, is he capable of doing

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a live show? Kid Rock? Yeah?

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't think I wouldn't recommend it as

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 3>he is doctor, but as somebody who thinks he sucks.

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 3>I think you should give it a go.

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, you.

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Know how like you look at old pictures of like

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the dust Bowl or the Depression, and it'll look like

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to us as like a fifty eight year old man,

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like this guy is thirty five, yes, you know what

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, And then like over time, you like look

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>people as look at now, they're like, damn our thirty

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>five year ols look like babies now and shit like

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that kid Rock for being fifty four looks like a

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>dust bowl ear of fifty four year old dust. Like

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he's maintained that like stress and lack of proper health

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure drinking beer and cigarettes and all that

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>has uh yeah, I'm like when I look at him,

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.399
<v Speaker 1>yeah he's fifty four, and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah,

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>yeah you look yeah, you look like dried up dog

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>shit yep there yeah yeah yeah yeah.

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 3>So he's see but everything above the hat band he

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 3>looks super young yeh. Never you know what I mean

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Above his hat band, which is he hasn't taken his

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 3>hat off. It's been crafted onto his head. Everything up there,

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 3>he looks like a newborn baby. He looks like he

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 3>looks like one of the pre cogs, Like he's been

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 3>bathing in a milk bath for the.

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Past you know he's got Yeah, he's doing the Bret

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Michaels thing where it's like, bro, the hair is attached

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>to the hat just so you know, so this thing

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>is not coming. I don't know if you've seen a picture.

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Of Lega seeing hard.

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you see me in a backwards trucker hut

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the ship, you're going to look in there. It looks

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like a field that is lying fallow.

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, James, such a pleasure having you on the daily side. Guys,

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 3>where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>that good stuff? Yeah?

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I can find me on It could happen here.

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 2>It's the Cool Zone podcast. You can find it anywhere.

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Good podcast given away for free. We also have a

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different feets. If you just want to listen

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to our immigration stuff, you can find that. If you

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>want to listen to stuff about Meanma, you can find that.

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 2>If you want to listen to other things that we've covered,

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you can find those all on the Cool Zone media page.

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 2>If they want to read my book, they can pre

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:42.880
<v Speaker 2>order it from akpress dot org. It's called against the state,

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and I sometimes go on social media. I'm trying not

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to can make it makes me so angry, but you

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 2>can search my name.

0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>It's designed to do that. Actually, James know.

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 2>That so many many people are saying it. But yeah,

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I will occasionally need tweet or skeep or there's a bus.

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you need to do.

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I do ye. I want to yeat my telephone into

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 2>the sign every time they go on those websites.

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>While listening to Is there a work of media that

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you've been enjoying?

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Uh, there are a couple.

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Recently I did a podcast It's not my podcast series,

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 2>just so unclear. I did a podcast series about the

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 2>people I met in the Daddi and Gap a year

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 2>ago and like where they are now, where they're at.

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 2>And in that series, I talked about a Woody Guthrie

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 2>song he wrote as a poem about these people who

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 2>were killed in the lost Gattospanion Canyon plane crash. You're

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 2>familiar with that, mm hmm. Forty eight people died just

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 2>outside of I think outside of Asalia there up in

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of central California in the valley, and the press

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>only named the immigration officer the pilot, the flight assistant,

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 2>essentially only the white folks in the crew, right two,

0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 2>pilot's flight assistant, immigration officer, and when you got three

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 2>years or something radio and he's like, damn, it's pretty

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. All those other people died. You didn't say

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 2>shit about them. So he wrote a song about it,

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and thos people have covered the song. So Johnny Cash

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>covered it actually, so maybe, oh.

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's not going to be doing Turning Point USA. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just heard about Johnny Cash. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's good for this show, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So I recently been watching some videos of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes me happy to think that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a point when even like, yeah, Johnny Cash was like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty fucked up how we treat those people. We

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't do that to migrants. It's wrong. All these people

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<v Speaker 2>here ender the Bracero program, right, So they were like

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote guest workers, and they were deported home at

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<v Speaker 2>the time that the plane crashed, and yeah, they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>even mentioned. It wasn't until like two years ago that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody built a memorial for them where the plane crashed

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<v Speaker 2>and this happened in nineteen forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've been enjoying listening to people singing what

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<v Speaker 2>do you go? Three songs? What do you gu three?

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<v Speaker 2>Chaeremany there you go?

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to you all right, miles Where can people

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<v Speaker 3>find you? As there a workI media you've been enjoying?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Catch the

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<v Speaker 1>new footy podcast Ain't It Footy? Where I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the English Premier League, the FA Cup all kinds of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Latest episode with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. You get

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<v Speaker 1>two Americans and a brit talking that shit about our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite international sport. Now a couple works. I like, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one from at lol on weed. He's got our

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<v Speaker 1>social posted just a quote, just a screencap of the

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<v Speaker 1>subreddit are no stupid questions and it says, quote if

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthy can buy up all the computer memory and

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<v Speaker 1>drive prices through the roof, what's stopping them from doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with stuff people actually need to survive?

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<v Speaker 1>And the account of their quote more quote posts at

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<v Speaker 1>half of the top. You reply, I start with brother,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, and homie, and then one more I like

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<v Speaker 1>is from obviously a lot of people saw the great

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<v Speaker 1>slip and fall of that ice agent in Minnesota who

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<v Speaker 1>really flanded on his key Star at digitalgeist dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>on Blue Sky posted that photo with this old screencap

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<v Speaker 1>of a tweet from twenty fourteen from at Mike Fossey.

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<v Speaker 3>It said, check this shit out, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Parenthetical I slide one foot out from under me and

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<v Speaker 1>fall on my ass. It's not clear what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>move I was trying to do along with it. Check

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<v Speaker 1>this shit out, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>The way he had to like scurry his little ass

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<v Speaker 1>back into that car, it must have been half concussed

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<v Speaker 1>or something he did not.

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<v Speaker 2>He must be in pain. Yeah, I like.

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<v Speaker 3>To tweet from Mark on Twitter at Ranch, who said,

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<v Speaker 3>if you walk up to the counter at Trader Joe's

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<v Speaker 3>without any grocery items, they'll have no choice but to

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<v Speaker 3>compliment your body. Hey nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Arms, arms, Yeah, grands.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me on Twitter at jack under Score

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<v Speaker 3>of Brian on Blue Sky at jack ob the Number one.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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<v Speaker 3>at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to

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<v Speaker 3>the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're at the bottom you will find the footnote,

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<v Speaker 3>which is where we link off the information that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about in today's episode. We also link off to

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<v Speaker 3>a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is

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<v Speaker 3>there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, this is a track from Temporary Blessings, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like an instrumental band from Australia, because all the

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<v Speaker 1>cool instrumental bands are on like Melbourn. Now this track

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<v Speaker 1>is called Goblin Mode. But this band's cool. I just

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<v Speaker 1>like it, Like just a group of musicians are like man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love like Anny O Morecone's like compositions and like

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like vibe the instrumental music they used

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<v Speaker 1>to be in like seventies sixties film. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>make a band that does that? That's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what this band does. So Temporary Blessings with Goblin Mode

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<v Speaker 1>feels very much like something your favorite hip hop producer

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<v Speaker 1>would probably sample.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're making it now, so Goblin Vega go all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We will link off to that in the foot note

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<v Speaker 3>will talk to you all then Bye bye.

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