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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's the week one instant reaction show coming to you

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Speaker 1: live right here on twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host of Seth Wilcock thrilled me back with

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Speaker 1: you tonight, and I'm joined by a few good lads,

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Speaker 1: including a man who is an orthopedic sports surgeon and

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Speaker 1: the founder of sportsmed Analytics. He's trained at institutions like Harvard, Stanford, You,

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Speaker 1: Penn and Yes, Vandy, places that I think as soon

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Speaker 1: as I walked onto campus I would instantly be escorted off.

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Speaker 1: He's doctor Deepak Chona.

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Speaker 2: Doc.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks for taking time from saving lives

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Speaker 1: to join us today.

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Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate that, Seth. No, we're doing well. Everybody

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Speaker 3: in Houston is keeping spirits up very intentionally, so we're

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Speaker 3: happy overall.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, glad to have you in here overall, man,

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Speaker 1: and thanks again for taking the time and also joining

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Speaker 1: us as a man who I can only imagine was Hooton.

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Speaker 1: He was hollering today as the Steelers got a big

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Speaker 1: win in New York. He's Scott, big time Bogman. How

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Speaker 1: you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good Man seven lead changes, heart fluttering the entire game,

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Speaker 4: BP way up, but we'll walk away with the win

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Speaker 4: and we'll be happy about it. So not the biggest

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Speaker 4: fan of Aaron Rodgers, but when he throws four touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: he's my guys, So there we go.

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Speaker 1: We're loving it, Deepak, What can you give us for

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Speaker 1: like a resting heart rate? Like how to get Boggs

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Speaker 1: is down a little bit because I know it's probably

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Speaker 1: been up the last few days with the Texas game

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Speaker 1: yesterday and the Steelers going back and forth today with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, all I could tell him would just

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Speaker 3: be doing Aaron Rodgers does it? Clearly works?

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Speaker 2: Lots of sleep, right, That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right on, right on watching Dolphins and Wales. Mate.

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Speaker 1: I think might be the cure for you, Bogman. Today's show, guys,

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Speaker 1: looks like this. We'll break down the most notable injuries

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Speaker 1: with Deepak. Then we'll recap all twelve games from the

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Speaker 1: early and afternoon slate, letting you know the biggest fantasy

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Speaker 1: football risers and fallers along the way. And before we

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Speaker 1: go ahead, gentlemen, let's jump into the infree front where

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Speaker 1: we got some big news on Thursday and Friday Deepak

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nineers running back Christian McCaffrey. He missed

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Speaker 1: practice with a calf injury, but did start on Sunday

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Speaker 1: with that calf strain. Deepak obviously quite a different situation

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Speaker 1: from a year ago because he was out there, he

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Speaker 1: Thursday again, so it felt like we've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about CMC and what you

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Speaker 1: saw out there today from him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked good. It doesn't look like they really

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Speaker 3: he has that history, you would think they would be

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Speaker 3: So I actually don't even think I would call this

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Speaker 1: So BOD, I mean, from a fantasy perspective, if you

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear that. And also we did

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Speaker 1: from a Friday night injury. Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy. He suffered a dislocated shoulder Friday night in

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Speaker 1: what do you think this means? For a timetable for return.

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Speaker 1: So, Bob and hearing this two part question one, where's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't Joseph my rankings yet. I'm waiting for

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Marquis Brown goes up sixteen targets in that game.

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Speaker 4: With Rice down and now Worthy down for an extended

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a tough scene out there if

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of Kansas City Chiefs fantasy options.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got Rashid Rice on the shelf for

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Speaker 1: at least five more games, and then at the same time,

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Speaker 1: he went for over one hundred yards on five receptions.

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Speaker 1: He said he's fine afterwards. There are no consumer concerns

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Speaker 1: moving forward. Deepak, do you trust the talented second year

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Speaker 3: I actually do. Yeah. The mechanism was relatively mild appearing.

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Speaker 1: Bugs. Will there be any adjustment for you in your rankings,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I do not care about one of

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Speaker 4: the very few players that I don't care about the

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Speaker 4: glad that Deepak is giving us, you know, potential good

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Speaker 4: news here. Obviously we have to get the report back

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Speaker 4: that he's going to be out there. It is weird.

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Speaker 4: We'll get more into that later, Seth. But not too

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I wanted to shout out a couple of

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Drake London here, Depak, where he exited

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Speaker 1: late with what looked like to be an upper body injury.

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Speaker 1: Do any updates on what this might look like with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was questionable is what they called it.

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Speaker 3: But it was towards the end of the game. It

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Speaker 3: think would result in most commonly in ac joint sprain.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Deepak, thanks so much for all your injury

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Speaker 4: tds here, So hopefully we get that figured out. Eight

432
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Speaker 4: Chan way over Allie Gordon, all Ollie Gordon. Stuff was

433
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Speaker 4: overblown a little bit here, I think to start the

434
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Speaker 4: year at least and a Chan got the ball thirty

435
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Speaker 4: four forty seven snaps only twelve for Alie and it

436
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 4: was ten touches to three in favor of eight Chen

437
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Speaker 4: as well. So I think I think that stuff was

438
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Speaker 4: a little overblown. A little worried about JT's touchdowns with

439
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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones sneaking at the goal line, but and I'm

440
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 4: worried about Tua in the offense, but more Miami defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm there with you. And honestly, can we get

442
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Speaker 1: a shout out to our guy Tyler Warren, like, well,

443
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Speaker 1: the real Tyler Warren Truthers please stand up, because Bogman,

444
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: what an absolute clinic. This guy put on seven for

445
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Speaker 1: seventy six on nine targets and a rush for three yards,

446
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: caught three receptions on that first drive. I think he's

447
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Speaker 1: really starting to eat in this Josh Downs role, like

448
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Speaker 1: a lot of us were projecting here. So what are

449
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Speaker 1: your thoughts here? I'm gonna reset myself and tell us

450
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I wasn't really sure where we were going

452
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Speaker 4: with that, but yeah, Tyler Warren, I mean he looked good.

453
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Speaker 4: You know, I mentioned that before a little bit where

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Speaker 4: you know, last season, traditionally the Colts have used multiple

455
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Speaker 4: tight ends, but this season we saw it in the

456
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Speaker 4: preseason from Week one right. It was all Tyler Warren

457
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Speaker 4: on that first drive with the starters, and lots and

458
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Speaker 4: lots of Tyler Warren. Here fifty three snaps for him,

459
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Speaker 4: twenty four routes run, only twenty three for Moley Cox

460
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Speaker 4: or thirty three with ten routes run and only six

461
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Speaker 4: for Ogletree. So your man running the routes is Warren

462
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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, and here's an interesting nugget I put out on

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Speaker 1: socials earlier today. Bogman Tyler Warren thirty one percent target

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Speaker 1: share in week one tight end target share leaders in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Trey McBride twenty eight percent, Brock Bowers

467
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Speaker 1: twenty six percent, Travis Kelsey twenty three percent. So I

468
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Speaker 1: think you got yourself a top five tight end if

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Speaker 1: you invested in Tyler Warren. That's where I had him ranked,

470
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Speaker 1: and I was way ahead of ECR. But hopefully you

471
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Speaker 1: know a lot of people started catching up by the end.

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Speaker 2: Not allowed for downs either.

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Speaker 4: Downs had what was it, three targets, two catches, twelve

474
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Speaker 4: yards when they had the ball that much, I mean

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Speaker 4: they ran a lot, but little concerning for downs as well.

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Speaker 1: I've kind of figured that Warren would almost kind of

477
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Speaker 1: overtaken for that role, So not totally shocked anything else

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Speaker 1: from you from a fantasy perspective from this game, like

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Speaker 1: h Chan, only player in double digits for the Dolphins,

480
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Speaker 1: saved kind of by that late game touchdown. Tyreek very

481
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Speaker 1: frustrate on the sideline waddle in and out of the

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Speaker 1: medical ten as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna save my pay for one more game, Okay, right,

484
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Speaker 4: I just think this lopside of times possession was the

485
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Speaker 4: big thing. But if they can't hold the ball and

486
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Speaker 4: they're going to be well under thirty minutes every single game,

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Speaker 4: then that's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Next up, in a game that had

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Speaker 1: a projected total that CREP under thirty seven points by kickoff,

490
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the New York Jets thirty four

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Speaker 1: thirty two thanks to a sixty yard field goal from

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of bos Baby. Both offense pretty efficient in

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Speaker 1: this one, surprisingly five yards per play for the Steelers,

494
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Speaker 1: six point four YPA for the Jets, and four touchdowns

495
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Speaker 1: for Rogers in his Steelers debut, four different players catching

496
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Speaker 1: those huge day for Justin Fields though from fantasy perspective,

497
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Speaker 1: Bogs sixteen twenty two two hundred and eighteen to one

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Speaker 1: through the air, twelve for forty eight and two on

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Speaker 1: the ground. Breis Hall Garrett Wilson. They did their things.

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Speaker 1: They both went over ninety five yards. And while there

501
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Speaker 1: was some truth to the Jets going to a committee,

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Speaker 1: we saw them really lean on haul down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile for the Steelers, so it was like, I

504
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Speaker 1: think they weren't lying about Caleb Johnson being third on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart. So who were the fancy football winners

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Speaker 1: and losers from just an explosive game in eth Retherford.

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Speaker 4: I mean it has to be Gainwell is the biggest

508
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Speaker 4: winner here, right, I mean because he had more snaps,

509
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Speaker 4: more routes than the other running backs here, and Caleb

510
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: got nothing. He had two snaps in this game outside

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Speaker 4: of kick returns, right which he fumbled one of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he's returning kicks. It's not really

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Speaker 2: built for that.

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Speaker 4: So I just Gainwell was twenty nine to fifty six.

515
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Speaker 4: He ran sixteen routes. Warren had more touches, of course,

516
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Speaker 4: eleven and thirty seven, and he scored the touchdown. So

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Speaker 4: I still think it's Warren by a decent margin here.

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Speaker 4: But it's gainwell over Caleb for now. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: drop Caleb, right because remember what we did when people

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Speaker 4: were dropping Chase Brown last year and he had the enormous.

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Speaker 2: Season or was that two years ago?

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Speaker 4: Everything's mixing for me now, But yeah, it was a

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Speaker 4: mix specifically that first drive for they. I know you

524
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Speaker 4: were paying attention set because this is our Steelers, but

525
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Speaker 4: Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis both got carries on that

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Speaker 4: first drive, So I was like, right, are we going

527
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Speaker 4: to be leaning more towards a real committee? That is

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Speaker 4: not how it ended up. Thirty seven snaps for Breece.

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Speaker 4: He also had twenty one touches to six for Allen.

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Speaker 4: He did score a touchdown. Isaiah Davis got in as well.

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Speaker 4: But I just I'm not worried about Breece. Breese is

532
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Speaker 4: the best running back by a lot on this team.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about Breese's maybe goal line carries because Fields

534
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Speaker 4: had two touchdowns and Braylin had one. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 4: my only real worry. I mean, Taylor played a lot,

536
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Speaker 4: which was nice to see, but only the one target

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Speaker 4: because the Jets want to run the ball and they

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Speaker 4: did so very effectively. Against the Steelers here.

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Speaker 1: Want to shout out a couple of new subscribers here

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Speaker 1: who just upped with Prime totally. Rad Cal just subbed

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Speaker 1: with Prime and M. Johnson Junior twenty three uh caps

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Speaker 1: for two five two two, also subbing with prime. Melson

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Speaker 1: as we as well just sub with Prime. So very

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Speaker 1: exciting stuff there. But Bogman, let's go ahead. Let's go

545
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: to duvall where weather delay there, but it didn't stop

546
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars from beating the Panthers twenty six to ten.

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Speaker 1: What are your opinions here on this game, Bogs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's I mean, let's just start I think maybe

549
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: you need to uh uh go in and come out again,

550
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 4: Sethy because your nuts a little garbled here. But uh,

551
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: let's just start out with the Jacksonville running back situation here,

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00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: Man Etn look great, he looks so good. Sixteen for one,

553
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: three three for thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: In the air, I belie la quin Allen was the

556
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: second guy to get touches here. Almost nothing in this

557
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: run game. Uh Bigsby fourteen snaps, laquin Allen nine toot

558
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: and only had four uh. But Etn seems to be

559
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: the guy here in Jacksonville. This is a situation that

560
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: I was worried about going in, so I kind of avoided.

561
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Speaker 4: But my whole thought process was, look, I think Etn

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: is the guy. Let's go with Etn here, and that

563
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 4: is what it wound up being. Unfortunately, I think I

564
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: only have one or two shares because it's too much

565
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: of a coward to buy on a running back here

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Speaker 4: in this situation. And Carolina last season, of course historically

567
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: bad run defense, so it has not improved even though

568
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: we thought maybe it would. But I mean, Bryce Young

569
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 4: looked ugly. Man. He did not look good either. Eighteen

570
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: for thirty five, one hundred and fifty four yards, two

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Speaker 4: picks he ran for forty Ted looked okay, lots of

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00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: targets nine he led them nine targets, five catches, sixty

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Speaker 4: eight yards. Nobody else really did much. There wasn't a

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Speaker 4: tight end to pull from this ugly performance from Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So am I worried about Carolina? Maybe a little, But

576
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Speaker 4: this this looked bad. Bryce Young looked back, Hubbard was fine,

577
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: tet look fine. So if they can get Bryce Young

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00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: back to somewhat normal, and now that the Jags have

579
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: a real coaching staff, maybe they're just a good team.

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00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: That roster's always been pretty good, but the coaching has

581
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: been miserable there for a while, so Jags might be

582
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 4: pretty dangerous here. The Panthers look pretty bad though, so

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to see next week which one is more truthful.

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00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: Are the Jags really good or the Panthers really bad?

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: Again? My gut tells me the Panthers are pretty bad again.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if you're an ETN manager, this is

587
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Speaker 1: the time to get out? While his values had an

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Speaker 1: all time high, I mean, we were drafting ETN eighth, ninth,

589
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: sometimes tenth round, so I think you could probably get

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00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good return on investment there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think if I if I invested

592
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Speaker 4: in ETN, I kind of want to hold him right now.

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00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: It looks good. He's a good flex option.

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00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: There are some injuries today and there will be moving forward,

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00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: So I think for the most part, you're probably not

596
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Speaker 4: going to get what you want back for ETN. Now, look,

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00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, float them, get that offer that you can't

598
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: refuse back and take it right, do one of those.

599
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Speaker 4: But I think for the most part, I'm not doing

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00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: a fair trade of Travis TTN right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and as far as the Panthers go, like, I

602
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: want to give this a little bit of time. I mean,

603
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: we have Hunter Renfro out there running routes right, you know,

604
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: and nothing against Hunter Renfro, but Xavier Loget, like, we

605
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: need to see more from this guy. He continues to

606
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: get a ton of targets, seven targets, but just made

607
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: nothing absolutely work with him, so that that was a

608
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: real bummer. But I think once we get you know,

609
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Jalen koger Ashag Koke heads back in the action, maybe

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00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit better down the stretch here.

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00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 4: And going back to I didn't even mention Travis Hunter,

613
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: but led this team in targets. Look good, play both

614
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: sides of the ball. So BTJ a bad day. I'm

615
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: not worried about BTJ. I'm just not so anyone wants

616
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Speaker 4: to hit the panic button trade min me, I'll take him.

617
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: You should be if people are worried, you should be

618
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: trying to acquire him. Right now, it's still scored a

619
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Speaker 4: touchdown on the ground, So yeah, yeah, I'm I like

620
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: the way the Jags offense looked. But this is a

621
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: cupcake here. This is like playing Charleston Southern to open

622
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: your season. This is not great, so hopefully the Jags

623
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Speaker 4: can continue this role.

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Speaker 1: Editor in chief of Mike A. Meyer in the chat, saying,

625
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: so many people O Travis Etn in an apology, his

626
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: demise was greatly exaggerated and lone start. I'm sorry, Etn.

627
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with your game. This was the twenty

628
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: twenty three Etn. Right, It just you know, skipped the years, so.

629
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Speaker 2: Great might have been the Clemson Etn right he saw here?

630
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, absolutely great to see that. And overall, you know,

631
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I think brighter days are ahead for Carolina and you know,

632
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: great first outing for Jacksonville. Let's move forward, though, to

633
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: a game that came down to the end, but the

634
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals beat the New Orleans Saints twenty to thirteen.

635
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Pretty even game overall in terms of efficiency, Saints even

636
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: holding a thirty four to twenty six minute time of

637
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: possession advantage. Here, Bogs, where do you want to start

638
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: from a fantasy PERSPECTI because pretty interesting usage both out

639
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: of the Saints pass catchers and the Cardinals backfield.

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00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Cardinals backfield is the

641
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: most interesting one, right, Like James Connor was the lead

642
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: guy here twelve for thirty nine. He also caught the touchdown,

643
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: but Benson mixed in more eight carries for sixty nine.

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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: The snap split was forty three for Connor to twenty

645
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Speaker 4: two for Benson, so over half still going to James Connor,

646
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: and I think that's going to just continue to be

647
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: the way it goes. But Benson is going to get

648
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: mixed in here and falling knife for Connor. He is

649
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: an older back who's had an injury history, so I

650
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: think it makes sense. But I'm good with this mix.

651
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: If this is the mix that we have moving forward,

652
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: I'm good with it. It makes Benson a little more valuable,

653
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: and then we thought maybe Connor a slightly less valuable

654
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: then we thought, but still an RB two. So but

655
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: if Benson creeps in more, maybe I'll start worrying about

656
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: Connor a little bit and getting touchdowns. But you know,

657
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: Connor getting the score and more carries, We're all good there.

658
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you there for sure. And for

659
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: the Saints, let's talk about Jawan Johnson, Foreigner, Penn State

660
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: and Indee line eleven for eight eleven targets, eight reception,

661
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: seventy six yards for Johnson here, and at the same time,

662
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: like Chris o' lobby didn't put it down on the

663
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: stat sheet, but thirteen targets for him. He was in

664
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: and out of this game with a potential injury. I

665
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: think he is healthy moving forward though, So Bogan thoughts

666
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: on the overall Saints target pecking order here.

667
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're gonna have a lot of passes

668
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: man Rattler through forty six in this first game here,

669
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be losing a lot of games and

670
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: playing from behind a lot. So when I talked about

671
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: George Kittle, Juwan Johnson is our game plan here, he

672
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: was like, gonna be tight end number one, so many

673
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: targets here. We know Chris Olave has the big injury

674
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: history as well, So if it's gonna be Rattler and

675
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: Jawan Johnson is gonna be on the field a lot.

676
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: He's a good tight end if one of yours got hurt,

677
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: or if you decided to skip that and your tight

678
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: end did not perform well this week, like Juwan Johnson

679
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: is there for sure. Love all these targets for a lave.

680
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: Hopefully he's going to stay upright for a long time,

681
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: and Shaheed had nine targets as well, Like these pass

682
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: catchers need to be picked up because the Saints are

683
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: going to be losing most games. And yeah, these guys

684
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: were good. I wish we had a little more for

685
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: Camara still fifty nine and seventy five snaps, and.

686
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: I wanted more receptions for him. I wanted more targets

687
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: because last time, you know, we saw Spencer Rattler out there,

688
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: he had fifty four to fifty five receiving yards in

689
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: those last two games, so I was disappointed. I was

690
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: also on the over of his receiving yards too, so

691
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe biased there, but I would like

692
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more camarow well, you know,

693
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: a little bless Kendre Miller, who.

694
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: The good news is Miller only had eleven snaps out

695
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 4: of seventy five and Nei only had seven, so only

696
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: eighteen snaps for the two backs behind Kamara when he

697
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 4: had fifty nine. So it's still Camara by a landslide.

698
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, good to know there anything else

699
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: for you in this one. I mean, it was great

700
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: to see Marv.

701
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Marna back in the zone. We like that.

702
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: Drey McBride leaden targets, so that was good. Kyler was

703
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: his usual meh so pretty standard Cardinals game there.

704
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as even Mike says in the chat, Call

705
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: of Duty isn't even out yet, so that drop off

706
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: will come, folks, that drop off will come one hundred percent.

707
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving here though, and before we do,

708
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: I did want to say, if Jawan Johnson is someone

709
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that you want to add from the waivers, if you

710
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: think he might be a good ad, first tread carefully.

711
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: Let's not go drop all our fab like we did

712
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: last year on Isaiah likely Guilty as charged, but also

713
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: don't miss it out on snagging potential difference makers like him.

714
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Use the Waivers Central tool at fantasypros dot com, slash

715
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: my Playbook, or on the Fantasy Pros app to instantly

716
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: view suggestions on who you should add and who you

717
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: should drop. It's been a life saver tool for me

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: in the past. I hope it is for you as well.

719
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: And it was another low scoring NFC East affair in

720
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: the Nation's capital as the Washington Commanders. They took down

721
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: the Giants twenty one to six. Giants pretty putrid offensively

722
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: here Boggs, averaging just three point seven yards per play gross.

723
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: As a result, pretty much all their skilled players really

724
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: came in under projections. Malik Neighbors salvage his day twelve

725
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: point one PPR points, Wondel Robinson continued to do his

726
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: thing two eleven point five. Meanwhile for Washington, pretty slow

727
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: start for Scary Terry. I was on that under of

728
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: his receiving yards, so I kind of saw that one coming.

729
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: But big days for Deebo, Samuel Jacory Kroski, mayor Ak Bills.

730
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: So where do you want to start with this one, Bogs?

731
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: Let's start with Bill. I mean the Bill breakout right.

732
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: This is ten carries for eighty two yards in a score,

733
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: caught one ball for nothing. But he was number two here.

734
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: It was thirty three for Eckler, it was twenty three

735
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: for Bill, and it was thirteen for McNichols. And I

736
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 4: thought maybe we would get some a nice Bill day

737
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: because Chris Rodriguez was inactive before the game. But he

738
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 4: looked great. He looked better than Eckler. So I think

739
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: that this is going to move move more towards Bill

740
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: Krosky Merritt moving forward. And if you drafted him late.

741
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: You snagged him on the cheap. You did a great job.

742
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: Divo was so good too, man. Debo ten targets, seven catches,

743
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: seventy seven yards, also had the rush for a touchdown

744
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: and you know, look they got rid of b Rob.

745
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of crazy because I thought,

746
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: you know, what do you have. You have a slow

747
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: back in c Rod, you have an okay guy and McNichols,

748
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: and then you have two pass catchers. But Bill is

749
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 4: proving to be way more than a pass catcher right now.

750
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: So he looks very strong. So and Debo working in

751
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: this run game as well, like they're figuring it out

752
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: and it worked today. I think the Giants defense is

753
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: pretty good, but their offense might be just as bad

754
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: as their defense is.

755
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: Good.

756
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: Man, this was awful, dude, say twenty miss passes for

757
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: Russ seventeen of thirty seven for one hundred and sixty

758
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: eight yards, ran for forty four. But he has to

759
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: be better. This was pathetic. So we're going to see

760
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: a change of quarterback real quick. If Russell Wilson does

761
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 4: not get this straightened out next week, I would assume

762
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: you gotta have a plan to put somebody else in Tracy.

763
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: He had fifty of sixty eight snaps.

764
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: Singletary and Scataboo got nothing, which is kind of what

765
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: we thought when Skataboo missed a bunch of camp with

766
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: the groin thing, he was going to be behind to

767
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: start the year.

768
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say, though Skataboo looked so good in pass blocking,

769
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: he absolutely pancakes someone, and even the couple times that

770
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: he caught the ball out of the backfield, he leveled

771
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: a few players. So like, I'm still holding on to Skataboo.

772
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm not dropping him in any leagues, are you?

773
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: No?

774
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely not so no, I'm not going to the wire

775
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: and dropping Skataboo. Singletary got nothing here. If you were

776
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: rushing him, even it deeply go, I think he can go.

777
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: The weird thing was Slayton played the most snaps and

778
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: didn't see a reception in this game. It was all

779
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: neighbors in wan Dale. But I mean, with only what

780
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: was that thirteen seventeen completions, I guess it's not that surprising.

781
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: I saw about fourteen balls bounce off with THEO Johnson's hands.

782
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: What's up with your boys, Seth, Dude can't catch the ball.

783
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 4: He's got flying panhands.

784
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: Good God.

785
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Ertz caught the touchdown. I'm not too worried

786
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: about Terry McLaurin quite yet, but Deebo looked real good.

787
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: He's gonna take a little steam away and so so

788
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: did Crossky Merit. But the fourteen points, I think this

789
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: was just a nice defensive game that Washington came out

790
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: on the side of because Russ couldn't do anything.

791
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Yep, good day to be on the underfits. And I

792
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: gave that one out on the Betting Pros YouTube live

793
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: stream this morning. So excited about that one. Shout out

794
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: to a couple of new followers here, Bear of Flux,

795
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: t Savage and Cheeky. Thank you guys so much. We

796
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: really really appreciate that. And it was a game that

797
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: came down to kicking as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They

798
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: beat the Atlanta Falcons twenty three to twenty no turnovers

799
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: for either team. Pretty clean game. Really kind of turned

800
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: into a field position battle who had the ball last

801
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: late in that one. A Mecca Buca got his career

802
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: off to a great start two touchdowns in his day.

803
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Mike Evans found double digit fantasy points in a very

804
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: tough matchup against cornerback aj Terrell as did Bucky Irving. Meanwhile,

805
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons, they finally did it bogg and they finally

806
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: got the usage we wanted for their skill position players.

807
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Man Vijon largely ineffective on the ground, but he did

808
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: take six receptions for one hundred yards and a touchdown.

809
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts he had eight targets for seven receptions fifty

810
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: nine yards and yes, seventeen or fifteen targets excuse me

811
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: for Drake Lennon fifteen. So are you encouraged by what

812
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: you saw out of both the Buccaneers and Falcons offensive pieces? Yeah?

813
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: I mean, how could he not be? Right?

814
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: Like, this is what we wanted for Bajon, for Drake,

815
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: for Pits, and it's happening right now, almost three hundred

816
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: yards passing. Like you said, they couldn't really run, nobody

817
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: could run. Tyler Eljier didn't have a good day running

818
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: two point four yards per carry less for Bajon, but

819
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: he made his place in space, which is exactly what

820
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: you want. Like I mentioned before, Casey Washington led this

821
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 4: team in wide receiver snaps and routes two seventy six naps,

822
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: forty six routes for him. London sixty seven and seventy

823
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: six obviously heard a shoulder at the end, but Ray

824
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: Ray was behind, but obviously had more catches than Washington,

825
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: but Washington had more targets. So, like I said, if

826
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: London misses Casey, Washington might be a little bit interesting,

827
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: That's all. But I mean, let's talk to big story here.

828
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: Seth a mecca Agbuka with a big breakout game.

829
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: Man.

830
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: I thought maybe it would take a little bit for

831
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: him to get ramped up and rare to go and

832
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: all that stuff. But with Mike Evans being tailed by

833
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: trell as you mentioned, it was this was a great game.

834
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: And I mean Mayfield missed that one by just the

835
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 4: slightest of margins to be a pick that ended up

836
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 4: for a touchdown. But man, Eggbuka was routing those dudes

837
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: up pits.

838
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: Look good.

839
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: This was this is the opposite of the Washington and

840
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: the Giants game. Everything looked pretty positive here for the

841
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: most part, outside of maybe Kate Atton not getting some

842
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: catches and Drake London being.

843
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: He was banked up a little bit this week.

844
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: Auden was, Yeah, like Bucky, Bucky wasn't great, but he

845
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: still caught a touchdown. Yeah, I think everything else is

846
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: pretty solid.

847
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very very happy.

848
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: Man.

849
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm like upset about with a Mecca

850
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: Buca is I drafted him so much in Best Ball,

851
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: in early redraft, in Dynasty, but when it got to

852
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: like the late redraft leagues, I just didn't have a

853
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: shot at and he was going fifth, sixth round at times.

854
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, people knew, people caught on. But definitely I

855
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: saw someone in the chat saying, like one of the

856
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: best rookie wide receiver performance we've seen here Beef saying

857
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: a Mecca might be him. For once, the rookie hype

858
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: paid off for a week one. It absolutely did, My friend,

859
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: thanks so much for hanging out with us. Let's move

860
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: forward here where. Even after playing their starters in the preseason,

861
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals failed to cover beating the Cleveland Browns

862
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: seventeen to sixteen. Super sluggish start for Cincy here Man

863
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: two point nine yards per play. As far as the

864
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: efficiency metrics that I've dove into so far, to night Bogs,

865
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: that's the worst on the slate. Their line absolutely cheeks.

866
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is terrible. Their defense could not get

867
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: off the field that this led to just one hundred

868
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: and thirteen yards passing from Joe Burrow. Terrible games for

869
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: just about everyone but Chase Brown, who had a ton

870
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: of volume, bad efficiency, you know, got in the end zone,

871
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: caught a couple passes, saved his days. Meanwhile, man, the Browns,

872
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: really good outings for rookies Dylan Sampson, Harold fannin junior,

873
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: the talented tight end from the mac Baby Bowling Green,

874
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: really really good stuff from them. Third year wide receiver

875
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Sedger Tillman caught a touchdown. But Boggs, I do want

876
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: to start with the Cincinnati Bengals because every year it

877
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: feels like it's just a rinse and repeat that they're

878
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: going to be better days ahead for the Bengals offensive players.

879
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: This defense is bad, but is it so bad to

880
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: the point where they're not going to be able to

881
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: get off the field and the Bengals aren't gonna get

882
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: as many drives as we'd like that these players we

883
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: took in the first two rounds of drafts end up

884
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: not returning value.

885
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I had Burrow as my number one quarter

886
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: back this week up against the Browns. I thought they

887
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: were gonna be in a nice shootout here with the Browns.

888
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: But you said it absolutely correct, like the defense could

889
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: not get on the field. The time of possession was

890
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: thirty five forty nine to twenty four to eleven in

891
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: this game in favor of the Browns, whose offense is

892
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: not great, right, like it shouldn't be good. It was

893
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: great today. They had the ball the whole game, but

894
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: that old line looked terrible. They couldn't stop anything. It

895
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 4: seemed like every third down Joe Flacco had a completion

896
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: on and I mean thirty one or forty five, two

897
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety yards a touchdown. The two picks obviously

898
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: sank them, but Dylan Samson looked good. Twelve of twenty

899
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: nine six target or eight targets and eight catches for

900
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: sixty four to Ford didn't get much. Ford led in snaps,

901
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: but Samson was getting all the touches, and Rocket Sanders

902
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: took the goal line snaps well.

903
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: So if you remember too, in that game, Sampson gone

904
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: to the end zone and he got called back and

905
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: then they put in Rocket Sanders. Of course, so I

906
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: don't want to overreact to that, but your voy rocks.

907
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: But he got three carries Rucket got three.

908
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody else got another goal line carry, so and

909
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: I think that was probably you know, Judkins was going

910
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: to be the main back here before all that off

911
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: the field stuff happened.

912
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: So but yeah, you're right, Fannon is the guy to

913
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: talk about here.

914
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: Nine targets, seven catches, sixty three yards. I mean in

915
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: Djoku ran more routes forty one, but there were thirty

916
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 4: two routes on this field for Fannin today. Now, look

917
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: they held the ball for thirty five minutes. That's a

918
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 4: big chunk.

919
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

920
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna have that every single week,

921
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: but if he keeps performing like this. This was my

922
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: worry for in Djoku because we've already seen the Browns

923
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: do this to in Joku before. Fannon is a he

924
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: is a big slot more than he is a tight end. Right,

925
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 4: He's a move piece. He's not gonna be on the line.

926
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: He's not gonna be in line snapping and blocking. They're

927
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: gonna have in Djoku do that if Fannin is the

928
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 4: third receiver year. So a little worried about in Djoku

929
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: because of how good Fanning was specifically Week one, we've

930
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: seen the Bengals have terrible week ones before. I believe

931
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 4: last year they lost New England. So let's hope they

932
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: can regroup and get this offense firing. But this was

933
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: a pathetic showing in Week one, terrible showing against a rough,

934
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: a team that is expected to be rough in Cleveland.

935
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: They look good, they could have. They should have won

936
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: this game, and Cincinnati somehow stole it from them. But yeah,

937
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: it did not look great for the since the offense

938
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: that we're expecting a ton from. But I expected to

939
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: get way better next week.

940
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I'm so mad at myself for betting them

941
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: ats today, Like I was on it that week, got

942
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: team total, so I pulled off and then I again

943
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: went right back. I always considered the team total too.

944
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: I wanted some piece of this and I just man, yeah,

945
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: they really laid an egg once again. But things better

946
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: days ahead. Don't panic if you have Chase. I know

947
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people I'm seeing the comments come in.

948
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: They're upset with him, They're up south, thee Higgins and

949
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Better days are ahead, and I'm with you

950
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: on fan and man, I've known Najoku exposure all across

951
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: all my leagues, even in best ball just because I mean, dude, guys,

952
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: do yourself a favorite. After the show, go look up

953
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Harrold Fan and Junior's college stats from twenty twenty four.

954
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: He set the record for tight end receptions, yards and touchdowns.

955
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: Last year he was awesome.

956
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, even even against the big teams, the Texas A

957
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: and M's the Penn States, the guy could not be stopped.

958
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: And I think he's proving once again why he is

959
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: the pride of Can't Ohio Baby. So shout to Harold

960
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Fan and Junior Dylan Sampson. Is he a guy? Like,

961
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: what are we thinking? Where are we ranking him next week?

962
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: Top thirty six guy? Probably with the eight seasons.

963
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: He has to be a top thirty six rbat until.

964
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: Judkins is until Judkins is like fully ripping, yeah.

965
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 4: Or until Ford has a good game, because Ford did

966
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 4: have more snaps than him and all that. But they

967
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: gave the ball to Sampson and he looked good. So

968
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: and like I said, I think when you draft Judkins

969
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 4: and Sampson the same last year, saying four is not

970
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: our guy. So I think Sampson is going to be

971
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: the guy they want to use moving forward.

972
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and round out the one o'clock slate

973
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Raiders beating the Elements and the

974
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: New England Patriots twenty to thirteen. Pretty questionable usage of

975
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders playmakers in the first half on my guy,

976
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly ak Schipper, But Gino smith Man he was

977
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: excellent considering this weather. Twenty four of thirty four three

978
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two yards won an interception and a touchdown.

979
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: Drake may Man, he threw the ball forty six times.

980
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us were expecting that. That

981
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: led to some big games from the likes of Kaishaan

982
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: Boody's still sticking around, Helenter Henry and Stefan Diggs, who

983
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: are the fancy football winners and losers of a Raiders

984
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: versus Patriots bugs.

985
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing we need

986
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: to talk about here is the Patriots slow rolling Trebon

987
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: eleven touches in this game, ten for Stevenson, but it

988
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: was not an even split on the field forty six

989
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: snaps for Stevenson to twenty five for so I think

990
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: that's going to change pretty quickly. But you know, rookies

991
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: get slow rolled sometimes, so I think Henderson just he

992
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: needs to have a big day, and they're gonna start

993
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: going to him more and more. So, uh, again, we're

994
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: not hitting the panic button, but it is closer. It's

995
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: fifty to fifteen touches, but way more snaps right now

996
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: for Stevens and so it's like a sixty forty I

997
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: would say, usually how.

998
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: It starts for rookie running back though, right, and and

999
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: the main thing I care about though, it's the six

1000
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: targets and the six receptions, Like he's going to have

1001
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: a floor every single week. Brighter days are ahead. I

1002
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: think if someone's panicked on Henderson, if they you know,

1003
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: spent up a fourth early fifth, you know, I even

1004
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: saw him go sometimes at the turn there in the

1005
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: third fourth round, So if they spent up in their panicking,

1006
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm buying. I'm buying absolutely.

1007
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, me too. And then the Patriots wide receiver rotation,

1008
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: so yeah, break that down.

1009
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: So was here. I'll just give you snaps and targets

1010
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: right all right. I don't have targets.

1011
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: I have snaps fifty eight for boute h five for

1012
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: Pop Douglass, thirty nine for digs, and eight for Kyle Williams. So, uh,

1013
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: those are your three those three, and Hunter Henry had

1014
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: a good day too, so but those are your three.

1015
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: It's boute, Diggs and Douglas are your three. And Kyle

1016
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: Williams just is gonna have to wait for an injury

1017
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: or earn his way through practice to make it on

1018
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: the field here. But Hunter Henry look good another guy

1019
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: if you're losing. Kittle, very viable. Eight targets for him

1020
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: in this game, and I think he's gonna be one

1021
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 4: of their tops moving forward. Trick may look good. Touchdown

1022
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: at a pick ran for a couple of yards as well, so.

1023
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: That on most weeks you think for you, I yeah, yeah.

1024
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: Like right on the borderline at least, you know, as

1025
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: long as these pass catchers can do something for him,

1026
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be okay. But lots of passes

1027
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: for Gino on the other side and Genti, you know,

1028
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: not the best game, twenty one touches, but he did

1029
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: get in the end zone, so that was nice kind

1030
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: of salvage to stay there. Jacoby by far leader in targets,

1031
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: ten targets, eight catches, ninety seven yards. But Tucker with

1032
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: the big touchdown, like this offense is just gonna be

1033
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: a little more efficient with Gino than it was with

1034
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: Aidan O'Connell. And you know the ghost of whoever last

1035
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: year was miserable in Vegas last year?

1036
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Are you picking up Boute or Douglas if they're on

1037
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: the wire right now where it's kind of a one

1038
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: game thing. I mean, we got to keep in mind though,

1039
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: like like Drake May is not gonna throw it forty

1040
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: six times per game. I don't know why he threw

1041
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: that much in this game. To be honest with you,

1042
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: that was the tight game.

1043
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: It was weird. But let me ask you this, would

1044
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: you rather have Bote or Cooper Cup?

1045
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup? For sure, they got rather.

1046
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: Have Bote right now, for sure, for sure, I said,

1047
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: I think, But I mean Cooper Cup still led in

1048
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: snaps and routes. But JSN got all the targets in

1049
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: that game, thirteen targets for him, So I can't We'll

1050
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: get to that game in a second, but I'm just

1051
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: thinking out loud of like who you would be dropping

1052
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 4: to pick these guys up.

1053
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of a good example right there.

1054
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get there yet. I need to see

1055
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. But honestly, like Boute was a guy

1056
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: last year if you were in a deep sixteen team

1057
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: league or so, I was sending him out in the

1058
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: flex occasionally, so you know it could be worse. He

1059
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: could do worse there. Let's move to four o'clock slate,

1060
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: though Bogs, where the forty nine Ers they pull one

1061
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: out late. The Seahawks were driving on them. It looked

1062
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: like they're gonna get done. But the forty nine Ers

1063
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: do win seventeen to thirteen in Seattle. Big games from

1064
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. You know, everyone, we were all worried about it.

1065
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: Man right, and he saw thirty two touches. Today Deepak

1066
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: says it's wheels up for now, still an injury risk.

1067
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: Not the best day for Brock Party in company. But

1068
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, he did lose George Kitto, he did lose

1069
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Shawan Jennings, and Ricky pier saw only seven targets, but

1070
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: he made the most of them, four for one oh eight.

1071
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: So let's start with San Francisco. Are you all the

1072
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: way in on piersol still? Are you even higher on?

1073
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: Like?

1074
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: Were we thinking like top twenty five?

1075
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: Guy?

1076
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: Rest of the way.

1077
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: I mean, Kittle's gonna have to miss time. I was

1078
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 4: this is another one, I'm like, all right, well, let's

1079
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's gonna be kittle. I think

1080
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 4: they're going to be running the ball a lot. CMC

1081
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: is healthy, he's gonna get a lot of carrieres.

1082
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: No it was. It was pearsal.

1083
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: It's a piercing uh four for one oh eight on

1084
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 4: seven targets. But yeah, I think I think he's going

1085
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: to be on that wide receiver two borderline probably right now,

1086
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: with lots and lots of room to move up. So

1087
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: but in this one, JSN, the solo act here, that

1088
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: was the big thing to take away from me. That

1089
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 4: and obviously Walker and sharbon A, like, what is going

1090
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: on there?

1091
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking.

1092
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you the snap counts right now, pulling

1093
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: it up, it was thirty with eleven routes run for

1094
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: sharbon A and twenty one with nine routes run for Walker.

1095
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 4: So maybe you know, Walker's got an injury history, banged

1096
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 4: up a camp a little. Maybe they're just slow rolling

1097
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: him a little bit. But that's definitely at least way

1098
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: more even than we thought, if not more.

1099
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: Charbona.

1100
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: This is Kobiak, a new OC coming in, so things

1101
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: are changing there. JSN just run a lot of one

1102
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: wide receiver looks even though KUP had more, you know, looks,

1103
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: he just ten more targets to JASN. JSN is getting

1104
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: open with anybody else. I did like to see Tory Horton,

1105
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: but going back to CMC Sethie fifty eight snaps of

1106
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 4: seventy six and.

1107
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: Be Rob got eighteen.

1108
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 4: Now, look, b Rob just got there right, and the

1109
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: other backs are hurt. So I don't know that this

1110
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: is going to keep happening, but I don't like it

1111
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 4: for CMC's future if it does keep happening, which is

1112
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 4: what has always happened under Kyle Shanahan, is he says

1113
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: he's gonna ratch him back, he never does, and then

1114
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: he gets hurt. So big game Week one they won barely,

1115
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: but lots of usage for CMC, so you know, you're

1116
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 4: you're riding the wave again just to see if he's

1117
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 4: gonna make it. And I'm not very confident.

1118
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, Like I don't want to be that guy.

1119
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: But if you have CMC, and like, depending what your

1120
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: risk tolerance is in fantasy, like if Christian McCaffrey's healthy,

1121
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be like the RB one to three

1122
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: rest of the way. But there's a solid chance, as

1123
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: Deepak tolls at the top of show, that he gets hurt,

1124
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: and I just can't deal with that. So I think

1125
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I would be using this as a cell high window.

1126
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: And I do want to talk about JSN Man, because

1127
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: you absolutely hit hit the hammer on the nail man right,

1128
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: like this is you know. Andrew Cooper from our friend

1129
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: over at Fantasy Laren put out a tweet a couple

1130
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago Boggman and he looked at like the Vegas

1131
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: over unders for targets and JSN was like top ten

1132
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: in that list, and like it really goes to show

1133
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: that like he was undervalued in drafts. Man, I had

1134
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: him as my wide receiver eleven in my draft rankings.

1135
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where you had him, but I think

1136
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people were too low on this guy

1137
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: because thirteen targets, man, Like this is what he does.

1138
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, nine for one twenty four. I think that

1139
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive and maybe not what we all saw

1140
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: coming the average chef. The target was pretty nice, a

1141
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: little bit better than it's been in the past with

1142
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: some of the older offensive coordinators. Blake is JSN a

1143
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver one moving forward the rest of the way.

1144
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: He's at least a top fifteen wide receiver, if not

1145
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: a wide receiver one. Yeah, he's got he's got to

1146
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: stay in that bucket. He definitely has a chance to

1147
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: move up. We'll see, Like Darnold look decent today, We'll

1148
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: see if he keeps looking that good. I kind of

1149
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 4: doubt it. But JSN is by far going to be

1150
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: the leader in targets for Seattle. He's the main guy,

1151
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: and I're gonna run a lot of those one wide

1152
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: receiver sets. And he's just by just in terms of skill,

1153
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: so far ahead of everybody else that he's just he's

1154
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: going to be the guy that sees the ball way

1155
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: more than anybody else.

1156
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: AJ Brown or JSN.

1157
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: I think A. J. Brown was hurt. I'm still going

1158
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: AJ Brown. It's a better offense. Wow, Lad, it can't

1159
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 4: just slightly, just slightly?

1160
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: What is Keenan Allen there? Dude, he's not going to

1161
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: get nearly the amount of volume. A right, dude, Keenan,

1162
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: I'll look great. Get get out of there. Don't throw

1163
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: shaite on Keenan Allen.

1164
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 4: Man, Okay, Keen Allen's old. Anybody goes it him A

1165
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: bunch of times, so I guess, yeah, look, I just

1166
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: he's in that mix. He's in that group for sure.

1167
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: Maybe put him on the bottom of it just because

1168
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 4: they're a run first team, that's all.

1169
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm seeing some questions get coming in the chat.

1170
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: We'll try to get to those rapid fire style at

1171
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: the end there. Thank you guys so much for dropping

1172
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: those to us. A lot of people tuning in so

1173
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,240
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1174
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,000
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1175
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,520
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1176
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,080
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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,320
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1180
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,360
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1181
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,880
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1182
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,440
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1183
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,840
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1184
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: at fanasypros dot com slash chat. All right, a couple

1185
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: more games to get to, starting with the Tennessee Tight

1186
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: at the Denver Broncos cam Wod looked fine in this

1187
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: one in his debut. I thought, despite the you know,

1188
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: really really good Denver Broncos defense, you know, poor efficiency form,

1189
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: the numbers don't look good, but I thought he handled

1190
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: himself well. Twenty to twelve for the Broncos. What are

1191
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: your fantasy takeaways on this one? And why is everyone

1192
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: just dropping Tony Pollard in the chat? Like? Is everyone

1193
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: that upset with Tony Pollard? I't think it was. It

1194
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: was inefficient, right, Like, it wasn't the most efficient, and

1195
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: I think we would have liked see a little more

1196
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: in the pass catching game. But yeah, I mean hat.

1197
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: Well, he fumbled, so if if you have negatives for

1198
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: fumbling and he didn't score, then you probably didn't get

1199
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: many points from Tony Pollard. But look, he had nineteen touches.

1200
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: Julius Chesson had two carries. So Tony Poller is still

1201
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: the guy here. It's just ran up again defensive silo. Yeah,

1202
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: for sure, cam Ward, I'm going to disagree with you, Seth.

1203
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: He did not look good.

1204
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 4: Now, look, Denver is a tough test on the road

1205
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: for your first NFL start, But this is why I

1206
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: bet on the Broncos. Twelve of twenty eight for one

1207
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: hundred and twelve yards and sacks six times. That is,

1208
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: brutally held the ball too long.

1209
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: You had a couple of big plays called back I

1210
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: will I did. I'm not trying to be the Camboard

1211
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: apologists here, but no.

1212
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: No, I love cam Moreton and I think he's gonna

1213
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 4: be really good this year. But this was just this

1214
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: is why Denver was my survivor pick is because they

1215
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 4: could not move the football against this Denver defense. Denver

1216
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: probably as the best defense in the league, and it

1217
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: wound up with sixty two yards passing and seventy one

1218
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 4: rushing yards for the Titans for a grand total of

1219
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty three yards in this game. I

1220
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: think if the Broncos were playing anybody else, they would

1221
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: have lost this game. With the turnovers that they had,

1222
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: this was not a good game. Bo Knicks had two.

1223
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: They lost the fumble on the punt from Mims. There

1224
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: was another fumble in there, I think also from Knicks.

1225
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 4: Three turnovers from Knicks in this game. They did not

1226
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: look good, but they did enough to win. Harvey looked

1227
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: better than Dobbins.

1228
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Talk about that.

1229
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about this six for sixty sixteen for

1230
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: sixty three and one for Dobbins on the ground and

1231
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: then six for seventy. As you said, Harvey, So we've

1232
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of discourse on the Fantasy Pros YouTube

1233
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: channel on the podcast this year about RJ Harvey. We

1234
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: know that Derek Brown, I think he's actually related to

1235
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: him at this point. I think he just filed to

1236
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: adopt r J Harvey. So with that said, Bogs like,

1237
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: is it just gonna take time for RJ Harvey to

1238
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: overcome Dobbins or does he never was? Based on what

1239
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: we saw in week one, I.

1240
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: Think it's just gonna take time because I do like

1241
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: Dobbins looked better between the tackles for sure, but the

1242
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: the snap difference was pretty decent forty for Dobbins, twenty

1243
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: two for Harvey. So it's gonna take a little bit

1244
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: moving forward. But this was just this is a weird,

1245
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: ugly game. You don't want Bonick to do on the

1246
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: ball forty times, right, like, especially when he looks like

1247
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: that and he's throwing a couple of picks and he

1248
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: fumbled as well. So I think this was just a

1249
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: weird start for Denver. But I'm Harvey with only seven

1250
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: touches is concerning, but I think they're gonna have the

1251
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: ball more against most teams, and I think things are

1252
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: gonna move better for him moving forward. I'm not looking

1253
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: to do anything with Harvey right now outside of if

1254
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: you want to bench him, that's fine. But when you

1255
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: take a rookie running back in the draft, you have

1256
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: to They're all conditional. You have to get another running

1257
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: back soon to start early in the season. So hopefully

1258
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: you've done that.

1259
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: Harvey or Pollard rest of the season. They were going

1260
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: right next to each other in drafts pretty much.

1261
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I still want Harvey. I think the

1262
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: upside for that offense.

1263
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Is okay, okay, all right, let's keep it moving here.

1264
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions thirteen, Green Bay Packers twenty seven get it

1265
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: done in Lambeau in the Michael Parson's debut. Just all around,

1266
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: I would say solid game for the Packers. Like you

1267
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: look at the box score, nothing's gonna stick out. But

1268
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: I thought Jordan Love was just so efficient in this game.

1269
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: We saw Jane Reed make a couple of big plays.

1270
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: Everyone left him for dad going in the like I

1271
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: got him in like a twelve thirteen rounds of drafts

1272
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: in a couple of redrafts this year. Bogman slow out

1273
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: of the gates for Matthew Golden, but Josh Jacobs did

1274
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: what he needed to do. Let's start with the Packers first.

1275
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: What did you like? Who's the fantasy winners and losers?

1276
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: If anyone? Because I don't see a lot of changing

1277
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: really other than I think Romeo Dobbs, as Debro would say,

1278
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: adjust the ranks on him.

1279
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're kind of coming in a little

1280
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: crackley there against Seth. But I will jump into this

1281
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Speaker 4: game as you kind of reset. But Jordan loves sixteen

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Speaker 4: to twenty two, one hundred and eighty eight yards and

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Speaker 4: two touchdowns. So just okay, right, that's fine. We'll take

1284
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: the two touchdowns. Obviously, Matthew Golden not great in this game.

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01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: Dobbs with a big catch, but no one for the

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: Packers had more than three catches. Jayden Reid had a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: Tucker Craft had a touchdown. This was a Josh Jacobs

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01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: some played defense game nineteen for sixty six in a

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: score and as Seth mentioned, the time of possession was

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Speaker 4: extremely lopsided in this game. Because Green Bay thirty five

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01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: twenty four to thirty five to thirty five to twenty

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Speaker 4: five for Detroit.

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Speaker 2: So Sjared Goff, he's an indoor cat. We all know that.

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01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 4: Not a terrible game from him, But thirty one to

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: thirty nine, two twenty five, a touchdown and a pick

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: Montgomery and they just couldn't get anything. Like Green Bay's

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: defense is going to be a tough match. I feel

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Speaker 4: like for most of this season. Seth eleven for twenty five,

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01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 4: two point three yards for Monty, two point one for Gibbs. Obviously,

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01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 4: Gibbs added with ten catches. So if you're in PPR,

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: you have no issues with Gibbs day, right, you don't

1302
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: have many issues with Gibbs day. But if you are

1303
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: in a regular league, you're like, oh my god, this

1304
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: guy got me five points for my third overall pick.

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: So better days are are coming for Detroit. They're not

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: gonna have to play Green Bay every single day. But Jamo,

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 4: you know, Amanra didn't do much either, Like Laporta was

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01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: the best receiver in this game for the Lions. So

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: I just think this was the Lions running into a

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 4: really good defense that was ready to go Week one,

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 4: and all they could do is complete short passes. And

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: they took what Green Bay gave them, and that just

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01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: wasn't enough to come away with a win here, and

1314
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 4: really to come away with anything great for your fantasy

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: team either.

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: Look, I hate to be this guy, but I am

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: panicking a little bit on a Monra. And like, I

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01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: don't say I'm panicking myself because I don't have any

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01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: Monro because I was lower on him than consensus. I

1320
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: him closer to wide receiver ten overall in my draft

1321
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: Frankings Bogs, and like, I am worried because this was

1322
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: a really gettable Like, I get it's a good upfront

1323
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: front seven for green Bay, but dude, this secondary is cheeks.

1324
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 4: This secondary, I think Seth froze up again. I look,

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01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: I understand panic on a Manra, right, but I think

1327
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: when the player is as good as a Manra, I understand,

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: Jamison just got an extension, right, Tesla caught that touchdown,

1329
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 4: He looked great, But I think I think when you

1330
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 4: face a worse offense than the Lions, you're just gonna

1331
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: see a much much better day moving forward for a Manra.

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: So if you if you I want to listen, I'm

1333
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 4: okay with that, but I'm just not gonna do anything

1334
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: with a manra as it stands right now.

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: I guess I.

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01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: Should probably just jump to the next game while Seth

1337
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 4: figures out his internet here we didn't, Let's go to

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: I think it's the last game. It's Houston nine the

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01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: Rams fourteen. In this one, Matt Stafford twenty one and

1340
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: twenty nine two hundred and forty six yards and a

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01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: touchdown Kyron eighteen for sixty six in a score. I

1342
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 4: just jumped into the Rams in Houston game here, Seth,

1343
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 4: you want to fire it off there?

1344
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely so. I don't know how far you got

1345
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: into this one just starting, so okay, just yell it

1346
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: from the top fourteen Rams nine to the Houston Texans.

1347
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: This was another one where I think we're all, you know,

1348
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to say over hyping what we were

1349
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: expecting in week one from a lot of these offenses,

1350
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: but I mean there's a lot of changing here, right.

1351
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: Davontae Abas didn't get a ton of time in training

1352
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: camp with Matthew Stafford, and at the same time, too,

1353
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Bogman like the Houston receiving room kind of diminished a

1354
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: little bit with injuries. Jalen Nole had his first start here.

1355
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: New running backs coming in in lieu of Joe Mixon

1356
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: as well, So like, I'm not overly concerned by anything here.

1357
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: What were your takeaways? I mean, huge day for Puka.

1358
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: I think anyone who got Puka end of the first

1359
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: early second you got to be thrown with ten for

1360
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: one thirty. Devontae Adams, you know, did what I think

1361
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: we thought he would maybe doing here, four for fifty one.

1362
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: So what are your overall takeaways? Any big fantasy winners

1363
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: and losers for you? Because for me, it's just Puka

1364
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: continues to go up the rest of the season ranks.

1365
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so much for Kyrone Williams getting split right like

1366
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: or any pressure from Blake Korm or dark Quest Hunter.

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: I think something happened to jar Quest. I think you

1368
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: might have got hurt on special teams or something, but

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01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: still it doesn't matter.

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 4: It was all Kyron eighteen for sixty six in a score.

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01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: Also the catch, I mean, just a great game for him, Puka,

1372
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 4: like you and Pooka went out like he took one

1373
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 4: to the dome early and cut his his head and

1374
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 4: had to like he had to leave and then come back.

1375
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: It was a weird thing.

1376
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 4: But eleven for ten for one hundred and thirty for

1377
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: him and nothing changes there for Puca, So wheels up.

1378
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 4: You know, there was a little like to me, I

1379
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: was like, where do we go? Because Davante was I

1380
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 4: believe third or fourth in first reads and Puca was first.

1381
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: So it was like, well, somebody's losing heir, right and

1382
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 4: right now it seems to be Davante a little bit.

1383
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 4: But on the Houston side, I think you're concerned because,

1384
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 4: as you said, like, I'm not gonna panic about Nico

1385
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 4: having a subpar day. You know, Nick Chubb was just

1386
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: okay with the sixty yards and nothing in the receiving game.

1387
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: I don't like that at all.

1388
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: But they got to off the field now after that,

1389
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be hard to trust him and Damian Pierce,

1390
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: who gave you like an absolute nothing burger.

1391
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: I mean, the O line was the worst part here

1392
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: and that is not fixable immediately. So it depends on

1393
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen with these injuries. I believe they had

1394
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: their center hurt and their guard hurt right tackle, maybe

1395
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: two offensive linemen out for a line that looked miserable

1396
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 4: all day. I guarantee you once we get like PFF

1397
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 4: grades and stuff, the Rams are gonna be low, low

1398
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: low on the totem poles. So not too much to

1399
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 4: do with Houston there. Like, I'm not panicking on Nico,

1400
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: And I think, what do you think korm safely cutable?

1401
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 4: If you're not just have you you just don't have

1402
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 4: him for a handcuff.

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, cor right, Yeah, Koram wasn't even draftable in my opinion,

1404
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: so yeah he should be on waivers like I I mean,

1405
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll roster what he marks over Koram honestly, and what

1406
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: he marks his garbage.

1407
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, just not a lot, just not a ton

1408
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: to pull away from a weird game here. I think

1409
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 4: your initial thoughts are gonna still be okay if Nico. Look,

1410
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 4: if Nico isn't good next week, we'll sound the alarm

1411
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 4: a little bit here. Yeah, I don't. I don't think

1412
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 4: that's going to be the case in Houston.

1413
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: Nets.

1414
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 4: Next week they're on the road against the Bucks, so

1415
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 4: I think they'll be able. I think they'll be able

1416
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 4: to pass the ball as long as CJ. Strout can

1417
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 4: get the ball out. That's the big thing here.

1418
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Lion can hold up man like I'm

1419
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: not panicking because, like I just really think the Rams

1420
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: they proved it down the stretch last year, man with

1421
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: Jared Verse coming on that, like, this is a really

1422
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: good defense and it's continued to get better. It's a

1423
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of young guys out there, so you know, you know,

1424
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: would I like better than force point six yards per play? Sure?

1425
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: But is it the Bengals bad down at like two

1426
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: point six or whatever? They rock and know, so you know,

1427
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: just hold on. I think that's like really the message

1428
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: here tonight, Bogs. It's like there are a few players

1429
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: I think we're both panicked on. We've said that, Like

1430
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more panicked on a Monross Saint

1431
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: Brown than I think other people. You're a little bit

1432
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: panicked on a few players as well, But like more

1433
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: than anything, like Week one is weird. It's always weird.

1434
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why it is. But even earlier in

1435
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: the day, I thought, oh, we might get some points here,

1436
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: and we did in a couple of games, our game

1437
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: over there, the Steelers in Jets. But for the most

1438
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: p our, you know, defense is usually ahead of the

1439
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: offense as we start the regular season.

1440
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and that's just in you know you don't

1441
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 4: want to hit the panic button, but you do want

1442
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 4: to recognize some of these trends. So we tried to

1443
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: figure out some of the things that we are actually

1444
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: worried about in the things that we aren't. So there's

1445
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: and it's eighty five fifteen not worried about things to

1446
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,559
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