1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're not walking on eggshells 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: and the Chris Westling podcast studio. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Because the Eagles won this week. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: We're not afraid of you, angry Colleen Wolf. Yes, I 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: am so happy to be joined by Colleen Wolf and 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Jordan rod Reege. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: Welcome. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 3: Ah, you know what it is. It is a good day, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: a better day than it was last week this time. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: So I'm not acting like a terrorist in here. 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Great. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: It would be fun if Colleen actually was like that, 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: like the type of person you couldn't bring up like 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: bad things around because she just acts out and lashes out. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: You know what, though, Colleen, if we can't handle you 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: at your Eagles loss, we don't deserve you at your 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: Eagles win. A. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so the Eagles, they got a big win on Sunday. 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I still feel like I'm riding the high from the 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Monday night games were next, Jordan, I sent you. 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: Like one hundred texts and thirty seconds. I was so excited. 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 4: I was so freaking fired up. 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: That was awesome. 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 5: Even just our show, text chain was going off and 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: I was like, comatos on my couch. 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 3: I'll text you guys in the morning. 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: But that was exciting. 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: That did feel like I mean, I keep replacing him, 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: but that felt like the first the next big moment 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: of the season, Like that was the best thing that's 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: happened this season. Jade and Daniels just going off and 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: so you know that that inspires us. We like that 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot, and we're going to keep it simple today. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what we like so far, 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: stuff we like and stuff we don't like. 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: This season. 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of like we've had a lot of I think, 38 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: big concept shows on the Connie Jordan Wednesdays. So this 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: is kind of like theme you know what a big 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: budget director he's got, you like, like Paul Thomas Anderson 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: has There will be blood and then you know, you 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: got to change a little tone. You can't just keep 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: You can't go higher than there will be blood. I 44 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think we can go higher than we did last 45 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: So this is our phantom thread. 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 6: Okay, you're making us chill a little bit, is basically what. 47 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: You're just saying. Fandom but sometimes those are the best 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: fandom thread. Yeah, better than there will be bludd. 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: I would I think that Greg was just tired of 50 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: losing to me and Judge. Connie so this is where 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: we come in with this outstanding theme. I am really 52 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: excited about this because we have. 53 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 6: Some fun things. 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do some not so fun things, yes, And 55 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: next week we will go back to big concept because 56 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: we are officially bringing back quarterback Island. We've afard from 57 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the listeners who have been proposing. Okay, 58 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, he's on the island. 59 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: Good thing, Greg, you. 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Didn't get Caleb Williams on the island because he would 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: have been being taken off. So four weeks, Jordan, I 62 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: know you're a woman that likes things to make sense, 63 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: and four weeks does make sense. For a time, we're 64 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: going to evaluate all the quarterbacks, but today we're going 65 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: to talk about what we like. 66 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Why don't you get us going, Jordan? Why not? 67 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 68 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 6: I'm excited about this. 69 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: I actually like that Offens's quarterback play passing in general 70 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: is down. And stick with me here on this because 71 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: I know that a lot of people are not super 72 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: thrilled with that. But I think that this is going 73 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: to be where we actually kind of weed out some 74 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: of the coaches who are actually great coaches, teachers, adjusters. 75 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: The frauds are going to exposed, and then we might 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: weed out some people who maybe aren't kind of ready 77 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: to meet this cycle of offense and of defense as 78 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: being smarter than ever where it's at right now, and 79 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: then it opens up more opportunity for people who are 80 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: ready to climb that ladder. I think that this is 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: super interesting, just watching the way that some of these coaches, 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: even when they I also like that. I don't like 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: when people get hurt, obviously, but I like that some 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: of these coaches have also hit adversity. I see you 85 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: guys have put Sean McVay and the Rams on this too. Well. 86 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I got Jordan with a burn book 87 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: of coaches that she's just waiting to be exposed. 88 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's like Ryan from the office, I'm just 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: scribbling in a no pot. 90 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: She has a little list that she's just watching. 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: It's true, though, like the same stuff never works for 92 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: that long in the NFL, and we're kind of seeing 93 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: league wide that the same stuff is not working and 94 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you can't buy a big play. 95 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 6: Well, I like it. 96 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: My point too, I like that coach is some of 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: these coaches who are hitting adversity. I'm talking about Sean mcvah. 98 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking about Matt Lafleur. I'm talking about Kevin O'Connell 99 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: and what they dealt. 100 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 6: With since last season. 101 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: Really, these being forced to deal and adjust and adapt 102 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: through adversity is making these coaches better. 103 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 6: You can see it in front of you. 104 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: You saw it the way Sean McVay completely changed the 105 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: RAMS identity last week. Greg, I know you guys talked 106 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: about that on the recap show. To a twelve personnel 107 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: team has had to completely overhaul certain elements, but they 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: had that ready to go just in case they did 109 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: hit adversity. They installed that entire package in the summer 110 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: and in the spring and then recalled it instead of 111 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: uploading it fresh, which is a godsend to players because 112 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: they can recall that memory bank versus actually trying to 113 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: create something new on the fly. The things that Matt 114 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: Lafleur is doing with Malik willis he is raising the 115 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 4: floor or of the quarterback. He's accentuating where he's gifted, 116 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 4: and he's giving him more answers. With all that they're 117 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: increasing their motion usage, He's giving him more answers to 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: what the defenses will show him in terms of their pressure. 119 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: The way that they'll move when space changes against them, 120 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: because defenses are smarter than ever, and these coaches are 121 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: using every tool that they have to try to get 122 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: those answers from these defenses. But in certain ways, some 123 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: coaches you're seeing already and you'll continue to see from 124 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: the real ones the way that these offenses and these 125 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: teams continue to adjust, and the ones who can't are 126 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: the ones who are probably we're kind of muttering about 127 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: behind the scenes. 128 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, let's do it in front of the scenes. 129 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Like we got a Cowboys Giants preview coming up. Mike 130 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: McCarthy stands out to me as a guy who maybe 131 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: doesn't like make game plans as specific to the matchup 132 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: that he has and maybe struggles to deal with adversary. 133 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: We'll get to Dallas Cowboys and Giants and our TNF preview. 134 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: But I love that. 135 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: I love that the league is always evolving in that way. 136 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: It's like it doesn't have to be off it. There 137 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: was actually a moment as I was watching some horrible 138 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: Broncos tape after Week two, and I was like, actually 139 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of miss offenses being this bad, Like it's it's 140 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: bringing it's. 141 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: That's the most greg thing I've ever heard in my life. 142 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: It's bringing me back to some like two thousand and five, 143 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers or Jimmy Klausen. 144 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, those were the big no. 145 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: But I just like diversity where there's there's some like 146 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: truly it's so bad it's good those type of movies, 147 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: or it's so bad it's good that it's almost fun 148 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: for me. 149 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: It's like a fast and furious like you just want 150 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 5: to like a compilation of that again. 151 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: But I just being like diversity, where there's there's big ups, 152 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: there's big downs, and sometimes it's so bad you can't 153 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: turn your head away. 154 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: Here's the moment we're at right now, though. This is 155 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: like defenses are smarter than ever, they're more multiple than ever, 156 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: they have more answers to all of the millions of 157 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: things that offenses are doing against them. Defensive coordinators and 158 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: defensive head coaches are better right now than they have been. 159 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: And I think that this is going to tell we're 160 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: at the precipice of the next big shift. We were 161 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 4: at one back in twenty seventeen, and we're at another 162 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: one again, and you're gonna see that become a catalyst 163 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: with a few people in the front and everybody else behind. 164 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: And that's what I like about this is that you're 165 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: and some of it's forced through people not raising their 166 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: hands and volunteering to be ahead. They just kind of 167 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: have to be because of the ways that adversity has hit, 168 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: injuries have hit, the ways that defense has started playing them. 169 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: They have to change and they are, but they're bringing 170 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: their players with them. I think we're entering this golden 171 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: era of coaching too with the right people. If the 172 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: right people, you know, continue to progress that they're reaching 173 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: their players in really cool ways where they're bringing their 174 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: players with them. 175 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 6: They're not assigning people into boxes. 176 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: They're kind of like, oh, you know, you look at 177 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: what Kevin O'Connell's doing, not just with Sam Darnold, with 178 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, absolute bona fide star All Pro receiver, but 179 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: he's not just using him to get him open. He's 180 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: using him to also open up all kinds of other 181 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: answers for the quarterback on any given play, whether the 182 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: defense is right or wrong. And I think that that 183 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: is what you see with coaches who are really like 184 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: seeking how many different things their players can do with them. 185 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's figuring out what your players do well. 186 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, that's in maximizing that instead of 187 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: just having a system and this is the system that 188 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: we run. 189 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: But I like that there's a push behind them that 190 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: they didn't necessarily ask for. Like I like that they're 191 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: kind of having have to do it versus. 192 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: And let's come down about the whole like defenses they're 193 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: dominating and like put like it's like when they were 194 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: talking about we got a ban the cover two and 195 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: stuff that was that was silly, But they were talking 196 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: about the seventies and eighties as if that was some 197 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: like great days of pass catch like points are still 198 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: way higher than they were like fifteen sixteen years ago. 199 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: It's it's fine. 200 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: You mentioned Matt Lafleur, and I know that you guys 201 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: already covered him, but I just absolutely love his tenderness 202 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: for Willis. 203 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: That's a like it's so bure there. 204 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, And when he talked about how like he can't 205 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 5: articulate the way that he has come in here and 206 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: been able to adapt and how he's only been there 207 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 5: for I mean that first week, what he had only 208 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: been in Green Bay for like eighteen days, and then 209 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 5: this twenty seven days. But he was like, I know 210 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: that you guys think you know how difficult this is, 211 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: but you don't know. And it was just so sweet 212 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: and genuine listening to Matt Lafleur talk about him. 213 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: I loved it. 214 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 2: I just like the use of the word tenderness. 215 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I felt, a tenderness. 216 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: It felt like there was a real love there between 217 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: the two of them. 218 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: And maliqu Willis seems to be a guy that does 219 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: inspire that sort of tenderness that he's just a very 220 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: likable person that you root for even in Tennessee. 221 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: I think that was the case. 222 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's been to me one of the coolest 223 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: stories of the entire season. That's a great like there, 224 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's throw out a random like let's go 225 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: defensive coaches, and I'm thinking about Monday Night, but I'm 226 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: also thinking about throughout the league. But Sean McDermott and 227 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn specifically were he Morris Raheem Morris like going 228 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: forward on fourth down, it's all just now so accepted 229 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: that like, oh, like the war is over, like we 230 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: on the fourth down evangelist one that you don't even 231 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: notice it, but shot like guys like Sean McDermott. This 232 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: year I've noticed are routinely going for fourth and two, 233 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: fourth and three, fourth and fourth because he realizes, oh, 234 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: I've got Josh freaking Allen. And he did it on 235 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: Monday Night's game, And if it had been a close game, 236 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: it would have been a bigger deal. But early in 237 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the game. I've noticed that over and over again, and 238 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I went and looked. They have traditionally been at the 239 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: very bottom of the league in terms of going for 240 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: it on fourth down. So far this year they've been 241 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: above average with it. And then dan Quinn doing it 242 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in a key spot knowing his defense actually isn't good. 243 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: And so I do like to see these defensive coaches 244 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: actually finding religion. And I think of McDermott with your 245 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: boy Ron Rivera back in the day. 246 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: It's like when Riverboat. 247 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: Ron started going for four down, we had a whole 248 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: like we had a whole theme of it for the 249 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: entire season on around the NFL was such a big thing. 250 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: Now it happens like his protecede, Sean McDermott, and it's 251 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: all happening quietly because it's like, oh, of course they're 252 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: going for fourth down in their own end, like early 253 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: in the game when it's close. But it's cool to 254 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: see defensive coaches now, it's like everyone's almost everyone's on board. 255 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 5: Like Aldamar Hamlin too last night get his first interception 256 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 5: while we're talking about the Bills, and it was just 257 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: so poetic that it came on his first start on 258 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: a Monday night since the January second game, and that 259 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 5: Troy and Joe were in the booth in Cincinnati with 260 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 5: the other game, and it just all kind of felt 261 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: so perfect the moment and the way that the Bills 262 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 5: bench reacted to him too, it was like it felt 263 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 5: really heartwarming. 264 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really crazy to think of what the Bill's 265 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: record is since the moment Tyler Dunn dropped that story 266 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: about Sean mc dermott trying to motivate his team with 267 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: nine to eleven analogies, because since then they've basically been undefeated. 268 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: So if it was like a different story, you don't. 269 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: Remember this, I remember, but when it was that, it was. 270 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: The very lowest moment of last season, when it was 271 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: all falling apart. They were one game over five hundred. 272 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: After that, they basically didn't lose the game again. The 273 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: rest of the regular season. Of course didn't happen for 274 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: them in playoffs, but they were a flat team and 275 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: then now they're starting out this season like a house 276 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: on fire. So I don't know, right at the lowest moment, 277 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, I like for me. 278 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: To just piggyback on the Bills talk because I think 279 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: we all like what the Bills are doing right now, 280 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: and that tomorrow moment was was so great. No, so 281 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: much joy in that too, and kind of relief probably too, 282 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: just but just. 283 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 5: Like and that the refs didn't like call anything either, 284 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: because they could have if they were kind of not 285 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: realizing the moment. 286 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, like excessive celebrations act is what she's talking about. Yeah, 287 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: So I like the general vibes around the Bills. They're fun, 288 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: creative on offense, Josh Allen, And it's too early to 289 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: say this, so I'm not really saying it is playing 290 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: at an MVP clip. 291 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 6: The defense is clear. 292 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Actually, it's okay to say if it fits really my 293 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: agenda host because I picked him to win MVP before 294 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: this season, so that Josh all right, it's. 295 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: Always really good to be reminded of when Greg is right. 296 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: So just doesn't happen show. 297 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: But the defense that we're all worried, I mean, they're 298 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: clearly getting coached up. And then I also really really 299 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: like that this is an offense with the quarterbacks room 300 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: and the skill players that all play Settlers of Katan together. 301 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Josh, I've been so excited to talk about this. 302 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: Josh Allen was talking about this over the summer and 303 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: ESPN Aleena Getzenberg does a great job over there. She 304 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: just did a story on it as well. But for 305 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: those who don't know Settlers of Catan a strategy board game, listen, 306 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: I am a Settlers of Catan player. I'm decent, good, 307 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: not great, But I will tell you if you can 308 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 4: healthily get through a serious game of Settlers of Katan 309 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: and still look this cohesive on offense, like that game 310 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: ruins friendships, destroys lives, makes people hate each other. So 311 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: if you can actually get through that game at that 312 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: competitive level that they're talking about, they do and as 313 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: a group and still look this telling you. 314 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: That Jordan's left on the road. 315 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: Have you lost friends over this game? 316 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it, but I'm just saying, 317 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: like this a game gets really intense. There's backstabbing involved. 318 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: So the fact that you can actually like have a 319 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 4: blast playing and then like you ever played Colleen, No, 320 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: and I'm what you guys are with. 321 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: The an average game. 322 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: Last yeah, ours, there's expansion packs you can you can do, 323 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: there's it's it's a whole thing. 324 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, I get into it. 325 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: I played it once set my friend the v Tex house, 326 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: uh identical twin brothers who are two of my best 327 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: friends growing up, and we went over there like all, 328 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: you'll love it, and we played risk together. Risk was 329 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: one thing I liked risk, but one time I came 330 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: over for Settlers of Catanna and it was like a 331 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: step too far. I couldn't focus for that long, and 332 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: I was the one that was just like, yeah, it's 333 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: too much for me. 334 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: Guys. 335 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: There's so much, like every moment is like constant strategy 336 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: and like trying to have it so like my worst deal, 337 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: it's very it's total anxiety. It's total anxiety. So I 338 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: already lived. 339 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: With total anxiety. 340 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: I don't want to play a game it induces more. 341 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: But that this team can do that like together, like 342 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: the skill players, the tight ends, the quarterbacks, they all 343 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: play it together. So that they can do that and 344 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: like get through it and look this good on. 345 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with Colleen, like and this has literally happened. 346 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes we're at a party and like people are kind 347 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: of playing like party games or whatever. Colleen and I 348 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: will just be kind of standing talking to each other 349 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: in the corner because it's like that's that's too much. 350 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: Having way less fun to me, so much investment, Like 351 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: how how long is. 352 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: This be playing on your phone? 353 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: Now? 354 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 6: There are apps different, like come on, guys, let's get it. 355 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I play Jenga and like Backgammon. 356 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: That's it all right, throw us another, like Colleen. 357 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Sam freaking I Yes we do. 358 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 5: Because I would love to remind you Greg that I've 359 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 5: been talking about Sam Darnold and the Viking since before 360 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: the season started, and I was so excited to watch 361 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: him throw four. 362 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: Touchdowns on Sunday. Thank god. His knee is okay, by 363 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: the way, but he's how about this. 364 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: He's the first quarterback start and win each of the 365 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: Vikings first three games since Brett Favre did it in 366 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: two thousand and nine. They haven't started the Vikings three 367 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: and oh since twenty sixteen. 368 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: And that was the first a year though. Twenty sixteen. 369 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, but outside of the At. 370 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: That hour, Sam Bradford, how could you not love. 371 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: The story of Sam Donald. 372 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick was on Pat McAfee and he had said, 373 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: everybody is. 374 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: Like Donald except the Jets. 375 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: The people in Carolina that I talked to really liked him. 376 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: I know Kevin O'Connell and some of the coaches of Minnesota. 377 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 5: They really liked the guy too, So it seems like 378 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: the only people that didn't like Donald was the Jets. 379 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: I just love that he prepped that line, and Greg, 380 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. He definitely did. He prepped that line. 381 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: He hit it twice. I love that about Bill Belichick. 382 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: He loves to just like stick it to the Jets. 383 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I'd noticed he was sticking it to the Falcons. Oh 384 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: we go, the team that turned him down for a job. 385 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: Don't think that was. 386 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 6: A good Oh my god, A petty TV moment for sure. 387 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: I hope Bill Belichick has a burn book. Actually probably does. 388 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: He definitely does. I think that's how he operates through life. 389 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 390 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 6: I love the Sam Darnald story. 391 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: I know that it's taking You're creaking into the lane 392 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: with us here, Greg, I know that you're like, you know. 393 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 6: Waiting for the bottom to fall out. The other shooted drop, 394 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 6: but you know. 395 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Let your hair down, Greg, I don't come join me 396 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: with the Viking. 397 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: I can recognize he's playing well. 398 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: I thought I heard you use the word awesome in 399 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: a recent recap. 400 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're using my own words. 401 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 4: I've never been more powerful in this moment. 402 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 5: Actually, twitch is faced it, Greg, You're passing touchdown leaders 403 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 5: through three weeks, Sam Donald, Josh Allen. 404 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is is Gino up there? 405 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 7: Oh? 406 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: He's not so well. 407 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 6: He's one of my my likes that I didn't get 408 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 6: on here. He's playing. 409 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 5: He probably has more backdowns because they are all tied 410 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: with four and then there's a five way tie for 411 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: second play with three touchdowns. 412 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? 413 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: We're getting entering week four and tied for three touchdowns? 414 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 5: Is like in fourth or fifth passing some of them 415 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: are mixing and passing touchdowns. 416 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: Is are so down yet only one game two three touchdowns. 417 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: It shows you just evaluate. 418 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: The ball as a side note too, on the Viking. 419 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: Again on the Vikings, but I really you know the 420 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: Brian flora is higher. I mean, I know that I 421 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: know that we're We've talked about this a lot, and 422 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: it's rightfully gotten praise. 423 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 6: I do love this is a sort of a nod 424 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 6: to the. 425 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: Ringer Stephen Ruiz, who I think came up with the 426 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: original meme for this. But Brian Flores's game plans have 427 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: sort of become acid tests for quarterbacks. I have to 428 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: think that playing against him in practice because just like 429 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: everybody who kind of has come through either the forty 430 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 4: nine ers buildings, they run a lot more of a 431 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: live scout or like good on good situations that everyone 432 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: calls them something different, but they run eleven on eleven's 433 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: as live as possible at certain periods through the course 434 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: of the practice. So you are getting those looks against 435 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: Brian Flores is like mad scientist scheme. I think that's 436 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: an ego less higher if you're like the quarterback, the 437 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: former quarterback, you know who was the journeyman backup, and 438 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 4: then you go out and hire like the guy who 439 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: tortures quarterbacks. Sure, I just think that this is just 440 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: a really cool pairing. And even against CJ. Stroud, what 441 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: was really cool that they did was they blitzed CJ. 442 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 4: Stroud on over half of his dropbacks in the first 443 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: half last week, and then all of a sudden they 444 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: completely flipped it on his head, on the plan on 445 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 4: its head, and then they totally stopped on not totally, 446 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: I mean twenty percent of time stop blitzing at that rate. 447 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 4: And then they just dropped everybody. So it basically is 448 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: like a blender situation. 449 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Sure we're having a different game plan for the second 450 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: half than the first half or the second quarter then 451 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: the first. 452 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: That's what the great one. 453 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 5: And Sam Darnold has improved significantly against the Blitz to 454 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 5: your point going against Bryan Flores, because he's thrown three 455 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 5: of his four touchdowns against the Blitz, which is a 456 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 5: far cry from twenty nineteen when he threw three interceptions 457 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: against the Blitz versus New England, which was the second 458 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: most in any game eighteen. 459 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: And so he was not good before. It is healing 460 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: same Darnald is healing healing us too. Oh, I love 461 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: the drop. 462 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna get spicy. 463 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: He is not getting on good job, and I gotta 464 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: I gotta check myself. 465 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: Greg needs a fourth in this room because the number. 466 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: Why are you available next week? Wherever you are? Okay? 467 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: I was wondering if I'm being like a little bit 468 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: of a hater watching Donald's tape every week and thinking 469 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: there are still like two or three of the Donalds 470 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: plays that I'm not putting him in like the top 471 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: five of how he's played so far this year. 472 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: And then I tried to I don't think rational people 473 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: are doing okay, okay, yeah, but the producing. 474 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: The numbers are great. 475 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: He when he holds the ball, I think bad things 476 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: still happen. So I did look at some of the numbers. 477 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: He has been great against the blitz, making quick decisions. 478 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: He has been great when throwing the ball under two 479 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: and a half seconds, So I think that's where the 480 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: offensive scheme is winning for him and he's being decisive. 481 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: But he still holds the ball a lot, seventh highest 482 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: time to throw in the league. He's not like having 483 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: these turnover worthy plays. That's good, But when he's held 484 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: the ball, he hasn't really been that effective. When he's 485 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: been out of play action, he hasn't been that effective. 486 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: It's like twelve yards per attempt in play action, like 487 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: six point eight with that, which isn't crazy, Like that's 488 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. If he can turn you into if he 489 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: can turn into Jared Goff. He's going to make a 490 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: lot of money and have a great, great career. The 491 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: thing that makes me wonder if he is going to 492 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: develop and have so much time to play in this 493 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: system and get better. Actually, in this game against Houston, 494 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I thought he was much better when he did hold 495 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: the ball, not making bad decisions that I think was 496 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: a problem for him for two weeks. So if that's 497 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: a sign of like progress, I thought his game against 498 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Houston was particularly good. 499 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: And using play action has often been like the go 500 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: to cheat code for coordinators and coaches and that when 501 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 4: they're trying to raise the floor of a quarterback. But 502 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: actually what they're doing also in tandem with that, and 503 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: it certainly is raising the floor for Sam Darnold, is 504 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: they're actually using their motions to reset and realign formations 505 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: to pull defenders back down toward the line of scrimmage. 506 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: They're using motion as sort of the cheat code in 507 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: this way because they're changing basically the spacing on the 508 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: field with it versus just sending a guy to get 509 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: information from the defense. So it's helping Sam find more 510 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: space basically. 511 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, like the numbers when when he is getting 512 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: rid of the ball third and completion percentage over expected 513 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: second in EPA per drop back second and success right 514 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: when he throws under two and a half seconds. So 515 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: that's coaching, that's Sam Darnold. And you're right about the 516 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: acid test for Brian Flores. It's like quarterbacks are taking 517 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: acid when they're playing the Minnesota can't wait to say that. 518 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: I love that for you. 519 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: What would happen? What did that look like? 520 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 6: Will Evis? 521 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: It might just be it might just be fun. 522 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: It might just be fun, like the month that me 523 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and like ten of my restaurant employee friends just were 524 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: like taking acid on Martha's Vineyard one of the best 525 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: months of mine. Were you a waiter with that? I was, 526 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break? 527 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: I mean it was. 528 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: It honestly felt like like this day last boy fun. 529 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: They got a quick break. Mostly back after this back 530 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: on NFL Daily. Yeah, we're feeling positive. 531 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: We're in the flow of the season week four, so 532 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot of likes. I do have a lot 533 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: of dislikes too, but we're gonna get to that next. 534 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna believe that we're gonna keep it ordered and 535 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: keep it with the likes why don't. 536 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: You go next, Kelly? 537 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I love First of all, I love when brothers 538 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 5: are both in the NFL. It's always super fun, especially 539 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: if they play against each other. But in this instance, 540 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: we have JJ Watt and t J Watt and JJ 541 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 5: Watt is interviewing TJ Watt and I think it was 542 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: at the half of the Steelers game, so in case 543 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 5: you didn't hear it, listen to what he said. 544 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 8: All Right, I know you're trying to get in that 545 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 8: right headspace. I know you and Danny just announced that 546 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 8: you guys are pregnant and expecting your first child. Me 547 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 8: personally knowing what that why means and knowing how important 548 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 8: that is, I wanted to give you a little gift 549 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 8: before you head back into the locker room to say 550 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 8: congratulations on your new child and wish you guys all 551 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 8: the best. 552 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Thanks, man, I appreciate you trying to mess up my headspace. Appreciated. 553 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back. 554 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 8: In ten days after I had Coha, So I'm just saying, 555 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 8: we've seen a lot of great things. We might see 556 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 8: some great We. 557 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: Get it, James, we get it. 558 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Keep pumping yourself up. 559 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 4: That's all. 560 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: Go back in the locker room, have a great day, 561 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: all right. 562 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 9: So that was on CBS's NFL today and it was 563 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 9: just so funny because JJ gives TJ this little tiny, 564 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 9: like number ninety jersey. 565 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: That says dad on the back of it. It's like 566 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: a very sweet, wholesome moment. 567 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: And then when TJ says, like, you know, I appreciate 568 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 5: you trying to get like mess my headspace up. 569 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Whatever, I'm gonna go lock back in. But when he said, 570 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: as we get it, James, we get it. Keep pumping 571 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: yourself up. That is so great. 572 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 5: I love it so much, and TJ Watt is saying 573 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: essentially what we all are thinking all the time when 574 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: JJ does what he does, and I love to see 575 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 5: it alive and well within the family. 576 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: It's very little brother, big brother energy. I absolutely love it. 577 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: And it is funny because I thought I thought about 578 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: this lately and when did JJ wat get the hair 579 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: he looks completely different. I don't know why I haven't. 580 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that for a while. No, no, no, 581 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: not that. But I'm just saying that the haircut he 582 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: has sort of like a CPS haircut where it just 583 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: looks very different. I haven't seen it, and I love 584 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: that because JJ Watt has made it a great transformation. 585 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: He used to be the target of a lot of jokes. 586 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 587 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: On the Around the NFL podcast, Chris used to get 588 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: Wes you know who this studio is named that used 589 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: to get so mad about his self promotion and just 590 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: you know. But then I really think as he got 591 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: older and more mature in the end of his career 592 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: and he has a baby and wife and everything, he 593 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: actually became much more likable and a little more self aware. 594 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: And so I like, I still he can't help himself. 595 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: I love the sibling like I'm going to use your 596 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: thing to talk about my thing. 597 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: Yes, that's the typical. 598 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: That's a classic. 599 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: In ten games after we had co o. 600 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: At already, it's like, yeah, all right, I'm going to 601 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: jump in with a couple of Steelers likes. Okay, first 602 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: of all, I just like the Steelers team. Was not 603 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: expecting them to. 604 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 6: They've grown on you quite a bit. They fit Art 605 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 6: Smith rebrand. 606 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: They fit the whole twenty twenty four mindset, except they 607 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: can't really run the ball, so I guess maybe they don't. 608 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: But just right, just that the Steelers are doing well 609 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: in this season fit somehow defensively, but number one, they're 610 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: young defensive players. Like it annoys me that it took 611 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: them this long to get Herbig out there, Nick Herberg 612 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: out there because they don't let TJ walk at any 613 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: rest whatsoever when he could use some rest. And you 614 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: have a great third rusher. But it took Alex Heismith 615 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: getting hurt for Herbert to get out there. He gets 616 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: out there for eight snap, eight past rows snaps, he 617 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: gets four pressures, two sacks. This guy has been electric 618 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Sometimes it's nice to see the preseason validate, 619 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: you know your time spent watching and he's awesome. 620 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: And then Joey Porter Junior is just he's like their nude. 621 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: How perfect Joey Porter and I know they played different positions, 622 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: but in terms of the attitude that he brings, in 623 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: the energy that he brings their defense I think feeds 624 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: off of him. And he's going one on one with 625 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: these great wide receivers. 626 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: He's a dog. 627 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: They are so classic to me, but in a very 628 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 4: new age way. The premium positions on this defensive roster, 629 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: pass rusher and corner, especially like elite number one corner. 630 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 6: That's so cool. 631 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: Classic it's vintage in a very steelersy way the way 632 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: that they play football. But it's also a very smart, 633 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: well coach team as well for what twenty four is 634 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: right now. And then the offense is catching up a 635 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: little bit on the other. 636 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: Side, Yes, Justin Fields is playing against the title in 637 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: the middle. 638 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we actually have a spray chart. 639 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: I believe that we could show if you're watching on YouTube, 640 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: by the way, appreciate you all. We've seen the numbers 641 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: go up in terms of the subscriber so like, subscribe time, 642 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: tell your friends about the podcast. Even if you know 643 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: you're not a video viewer, just listen to the audio. 644 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's see the spray chart of Justin Fields. 645 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: And let's also think about Yes, he's throwing to the 646 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: middle of the field. That's one thing he hadn't done 647 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: in the past very effectively. He has the third highest 648 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: completion percentage over expected in the entire NFL this year, 649 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: so they he's hitting the throws that he's being asked 650 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: to make. And I think the reason that's so high 651 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: is because it's a lot of out routes into tight 652 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: windows where you have to have a really strong arm, 653 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: and he's hitting those. He scrambled only once last week. 654 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: That was the lowest scramble rate he's ever had in 655 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: his career. Their design run game with him has not 656 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: been effective, but I actually think it's impressive that he's 657 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: playing so well without really his run game adding that 658 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: much to the mix. He is winning from the pocket, 659 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: and yeah, if you're watching, you can you can see 660 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: the charge. It's a lot of short passes, it's a 661 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: lot over the middle, but it's because that's what the 662 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: defense was going to do. They decided not to really 663 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: rush him to protect him against scrambling, and he made 664 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: them pay in a tough matchup against the Chargers. 665 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: And then one other thing in Week two. 666 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: He struggled against the blitz throughout his career, and they 667 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: blitzed the hell out of him, the Broncos did, and 668 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: he was really good standing up to him. So it's 669 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: stacking all these little small improvements you can tell he 670 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: worked on in his own game, and the coaching staff 671 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: deserves some credit too, and it's adding up to a 672 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: really effective version of justin fields. I think he's a 673 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback so far this season. 674 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: What you said about the designed run game with him 675 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: is not necessarily effective. But then you know, talking about 676 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: how the defense played him and so they changed their 677 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: game plan, show at least showing that designed run attack 678 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 4: or the threat of it is why the defense is 679 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: changing to play that, to play him like that, and 680 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: then him showing this extra element, Oh, we do have 681 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: another count. It is an adjustment. It is us showing 682 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: on tape what you're afraid of us doing, you as 683 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: a defense trying to counter and stop it, and then 684 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: us pulling out another card. That's not something this offense 685 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: has been able to do before in a free years. 686 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Which is why, like Mike Tomlin did the thing Tuesday 687 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: again where he's like, yeah, Justin Field is planning to 688 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: start again because Russell Wilson's not healthy. 689 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: I'll make that decision when I mean. 690 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: That's one of my dislikes. 691 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: Okay, anyone still talking about a quarterback switch in Pittsburgh? 692 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair, that's fair. Should we squeeze in 693 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: any more likes before we get to the disclay? 694 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: I have one like because I yelled about them. I 695 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: think for fair reasons because they were playing atrocially on offense. 696 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: But the Carolina Panthers, there's a lot to criticize them 697 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: for the first two weeks of the season. I'm going 698 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: to give them some well earned love here. I mostly 699 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: like the Panthers offensive line. Ikwanu is still strugglings. He's 700 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: sort of the weak spot here. Eleven pressures allowed. That's 701 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: obviously not great the left tackle, but the rest of 702 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: the four offive linemen have allowed only sixteen combined pressures 703 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 4: through these three games, and the interior of Austin Corbett, 704 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: Robert Hunt, and Damien Lewis have only allowed seven pressures 705 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: the entire season so far. And this is great for 706 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: the Dalton the Andy Dalton renaissance here the red haired 707 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: guys in the league are apparently. 708 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: You know, you know how I love Dalton and Darnold. 709 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's really great for him in terms of 710 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: it's still the same. It would still be the same 711 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: issue that they talked about of wanting to really shore 712 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: up the interior against interior pressure. That's the same thing 713 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: with Andy Dalton still needs that tool. And you know, 714 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: this offensive line I think deserves some kudos and some love. 715 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 6: I like them so far. 716 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Dalton sons doesn't really roll off the tongue. 717 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: I know, the way the glow up that he's had 718 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: just its looks later in his career and now he 719 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: could match it with his on field play. Panthers Bengals. 720 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I know it's one and two versus zero to three. 721 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: That's on my screen. That is one of my toph week. 722 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: That's this week, No Dalton. So exciting Dalton to bury 723 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the Bengal season at zero to four. 724 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty de listic. 725 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: I love that. 726 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: I do too. 727 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're run I'm checking out their running game. 728 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: It's been fine, Like, okay, it hasn't been great. 729 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 6: But the protection is there. 730 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: Last week it was fine. And so he's. 731 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: Throwing the ball of crap load still and product producing 732 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: the way that we thought other quarterbacks were going to produce. 733 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: Right this season and quarterback play is down and Andy 734 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: Dalton's riding in on a on a horse and saying. 735 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: I will see it. 736 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 6: I'll save the passing game. And like his protection is there, 737 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 6: it's great. 738 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 739 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: So you talked about anyone still talking about a quarterback 740 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: change in Pittsburgh. That was a dislike, we'll we'll switch. 741 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: I'll just do a quick one first. AFC South has 742 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: been bumming me out. Remember how I talked it up 743 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: as like, oh, this is going to be the season 744 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: the AFC South, But they are two and eight. 745 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 6: I remember you saying that two. 746 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: And eight outside the division. 747 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what is going on with the 748 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: Jags like. 749 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: All the like, And it was going to be exciting 750 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks were going to be exciting. Trevor Lawrence 751 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: is not happening, Will Levis. It's kind of a. 752 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: Way. 753 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: Even C. J. 754 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Stroud I think has been uneven. I think he's played well, 755 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: but their passing game has been uneven. Their success rate 756 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: is very low actually as a passing attack, like they've 757 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: had some big plays, but on a down to down basis, 758 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: they haven't been great. Not that I'm talking about the 759 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Texans when I'm talking about the struggles here and then 760 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the Browns, I mean, I mean not the Browns, what 761 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: the Colts and Anthony Richardson just rougher than I could 762 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: have imagined from a passing game perspective. 763 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 5: On it down to that, the Colts really thought this 764 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: was good. 765 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: They won the Colts. 766 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: They won last week. They won last week. 767 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that was a big week. 768 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: Like it's it's a long season, I would say for 769 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Colts especially here. I mean, Jags and Titans are in 770 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: a hole. But Colts, you just got to scratch out 771 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: some wins and maybe it'll round into shape by November. 772 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: If you're just like three and four after seven weeks 773 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: or something, they could be fine. 774 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 775 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: As I said in July and August and now September, 776 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: I really wanted to see not only Trevor Lawrence take 777 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 4: a step forward, but the coaching staff take a step forward. 778 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 6: That was really embarrassing. 779 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: Uh this this last game that they played, and it 780 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: just was disheveled. 781 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 6: It looked like not cohesive at any point. 782 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: And one of my dislikes, because I don't I don't 783 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: relish talking about this, but one of my dislikes is 784 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: that this is the time of year, from basically now 785 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: onward where you start to sort of, you know, do 786 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: the thing where you're walking down the hall and you 787 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: see someone who you know you want to avoid like 788 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: having a hard conversation with, and you sort of don't 789 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 4: make eye contact. 790 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 6: And this is like starting to be lame duck. 791 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: Have you fired? 792 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: This is all my Katan upon its actually, this is 793 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 4: all my This is all my settlers of Katan opponents actually. 794 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: Like I avoid them. I avoid them. Jordan is ruthless. 795 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 2: I hear you. It is a little early for that. 796 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: But but now onward is we're about to talk about 797 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Doug Peterson I spoke about on the Monday 798 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Night recap, how there was an edict before the season 799 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: they have to win and everyone in the building knows 800 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: the score, and that's and you have stuff. 801 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 6: And you know what though too. 802 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I cover a lot of coaching 803 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: cycle stuff, and this is the time of year where 804 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: you know, the agents start to gather all the materials 805 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: and start figuring out who would partner with each other 806 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: and what jobs might be coming open. So like it 807 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 4: or not, it happening this early. Those conversations about several 808 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: several places that are sort of either teetering or you 809 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 4: get sort of an ominous sense that things are just 810 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 4: continuing to go south. They're you know, you're you're thinking 811 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: about the possibility of who is going to be placed 812 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: in their. 813 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: Next Jaguars are Yeah, that's one where people are definitely 814 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: looking thinking, I chers guy, I can They're looking at 815 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and saying I can fix them, I. 816 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: Can fix them. 817 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: That is I just wonder if they're going to switch 818 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 5: play callers at some point. I know Press Taylor was 819 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 5: calling plays last year, he's calling plays this year. 820 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 3: But point Peterson. 821 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: Won't admit it. We could see his lips moving, Doug. 822 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: They have cameras, give me. 823 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: It's like the Geico commercial. We could see you, Carl. 824 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: I have so many more dislikes, but why don't you 825 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: do it? 826 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 5: Dislike, Okay, wow, Braxton Burios in Miami getting pants. Oh, 827 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 5: that's it. 828 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 3: I was like, where is she going with it? It was. 829 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 5: I just first of all, as because we talked about 830 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: it as soon as we walked into the studio. 831 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: How because put on his Instagram. 832 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: Did Colleen Colleen walked or no, you walked into this? 833 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 4: You've basically showed us what it was the photo And 834 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean we've all. 835 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Seen the photo, but Damna check had it on Instagram. 836 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I know I was, and then there was no and 837 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: I was, how does this not? 838 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: Like? 839 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 5: How does this happen? And Greg was like pretty easy. 840 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 5: I'm like, well then why doesn't it happen more? How 841 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: did this go so wrong? 842 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: For him? 843 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: Like? 844 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: I hate it. 845 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't seen on the broadcast, which is great for him, 846 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 5: but that's just very embarrassing. 847 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was, but there was a 848 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: player on the forty nine ers who I remember had 849 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: his pants pulled down years and years ago on the broadcast. 850 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: No, no, yeah you saw. 851 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 4: This section should not be called dislikes. It should be 852 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 4: called things were not over the moon about. 853 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 5: Wow. 854 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, thanks dad. 855 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: I did find a YouTube to a minute five second 856 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: long highlight reel of NFL's players pants falling. 857 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 6: Oh on your work computer. 858 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: This is not I don't. I dis like all of 859 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: I dislike it. I dislike it. 860 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 4: I dislike all the injuries that we're seeing. Yeah, there's 861 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 4: a lot of really fun, interesting players. Injuries happen every year, 862 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 4: it just seems like they're compounding so early in the season, 863 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: and you know, certainly there will be discussions about the 864 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 4: preseason and player safety, and especially as the seasons get 865 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: longer than ever and more players are putting more workloads 866 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: on their bodies, and also as the physicality, which we've 867 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: talked about out of this game increases towards the run 868 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 4: game versus a heavier passing game, you're going to have 869 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: a heavier toll taken on your body over time. This 870 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: is obviously like marginally marginal things over time. But if 871 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 4: you're really talking about this, I fear that this is 872 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: going to continue to be an issue. 873 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 6: Really really interesting. 874 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: Any proof that there's more injured players because we go 875 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: through this every year. I feel this and we're just like, 876 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: there's so many injuries. 877 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: It really happened as the stars do happen every year. 878 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 4: It just seems like every week though, we're seeing like 879 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: a headliner name. 880 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like five, Like so many teams get devastated. 881 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: But it's not a sport that should be played by 882 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: anyone expecting to have like short term or long term health. 883 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: It's brutal, correct, right, I mean it's getting but it's 884 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: getting more. Old fact of the sport, the off. 885 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: Season is getting less brutal in terms of you know, 886 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: what they are, the toll that they're taking on their 887 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: in terms of like what their the CBA says that 888 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 4: they can and can't do and practice those types of things. 889 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: That's getting less the game itself. I posit that it's 890 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 4: getting a little bit more because of the arc of 891 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: the philosophical shift that we're seeing, and over time, you're 892 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: going to see that brutality. You're going to have to 893 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 4: adjust everyone because of the arc of the league right now, 894 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 4: everybody eventually will have to adjust, including the sports science 895 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: departments and the the NFL training staffs. 896 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: Well, and they can start wearing the different helmets. 897 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: The Guardian, I'm kind of I'm surprised that didn't become 898 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: a bigger talking point after the tu A thing, that 899 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: we have this technology that literally everyone could do and 900 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: there's no reason that everyone's not wearing them except we 901 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: don't think it looks cool. So we are kind of 902 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: saying what we care about, Yeah, we don't care that 903 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: much like it. And it's not going to say it's 904 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: going to be one hundred percent prevention for concussions, and 905 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: that's only one type of injury, but so far it 906 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: has had one hundred par It takes. 907 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 5: A while for this like players to adapt to any 908 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 5: type of change, and when you're playing at this high 909 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 5: of a level and you have something at like that's 910 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: a signific choice out. 911 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Of there, and just like the NFL could do it, 912 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: they could just make they could if it was like 913 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: it's going to take either a rash of concussions or 914 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: something else drastically happening, and then it'll slowly happen I 915 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: shout out to the players that are doing it already, 916 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: like it is kind of cool to see the players 917 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: that have taken that initiative. There aren't that many. There's 918 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 1: a couple on the Colts I noticed, but there aren't 919 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: that many. Why Why don't you give me a dislike 920 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: Colleen Sad? 921 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: Travis Sad? Travis Kelcey, I don't love seeing it. 922 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 5: I he's not been involved in any of these games 923 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 5: as as much as he was last year, and all 924 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 5: of the shots of him just looking forlorn on the 925 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 5: bench are just crushing me. 926 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 927 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: I don't love it at all. 928 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: If only that guy could get a W somewhere, you know, 929 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 4: somewhere in life, if only the universe thro the league is. 930 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: Better and more ointaining. When Travis Kelcey is happy, I 931 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: think you're right, it'll take. 932 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: It'll happen eventually. Right, he really is drying lots of coverage. 933 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: I don't that's not totally made up. There was this 934 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: play where I saw Rashie Rice bust wide open basically 935 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: because the two underneath defenders go towards Travis Kelcey. It's like, 936 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to send those two defenders at Travis Kelcey. 937 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: Right now, I'd send a second one with Rashid Rice, 938 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: who's running right past you for about sixty yards. That 939 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: is said, all right, I've got some sad ones. I've 940 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: got a bunch still unfortunately, okay, all right, the Drake No, no, 941 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about, like laughing about the direction that 942 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and Drake May's seasons are going, in particular, 943 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: just in contrast to Jayden Daniels. Now, Drake May hasn't played, 944 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: but the situation that's there for him to enter in 945 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: New England is not good. They are dead last in 946 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: pass rush win rate so far. So like it's not 947 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: working with Jacoby Brissette. They have no wide receivers who 948 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: get open. I'm not really confident in the scheme to 949 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: get them open, and the pass protection isn't good. So 950 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: when he does play, and he should play eventually, I'm 951 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: just worried about how I'm not confident that they're going 952 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: to come up with good solutions. And then Caleb Williams 953 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. He had way more. 954 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 1: Caleb b plays against the Colts but still bears thirtieth 955 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: fifty two times. Oh right, a lot of that was 956 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: a lot of it was coming back when it was 957 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: effective late in the game when they were down two scores, 958 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: Like he was at a fairly I mean he was 959 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: at like thirty late third and then like it was 960 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: working kind of in the fourth quarter. It was the 961 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: best stretch he had of his career. But yeah, pass 962 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: rush winn't rate there thirtieth. Not sure if they're going 963 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: to be able to scheme their way out of it. 964 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's not healthy, might not be the full Keenan Allen. 965 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of a bummer. 966 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 6: There's some heat there too. 967 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: A couple of sort of social media posts whatever that 968 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 4: popped in terms of the linemen in the locker room 969 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 4: talking about their bewilderment at the speed option call late 970 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 4: in the game. I mean this it's starting early there, 971 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: frankly is what is what I'm saying. 972 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: And the tackles are playing pretty well, but it's three interior, Yeah, 973 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: interior guys, the forty nine ers. You mentioned the injuries 974 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: so Hardgrave, that's part of the injury situation to me. 975 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: He has a torn triceps. He's missing the season. That 976 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: was an injury that didn't exist in the sixties and 977 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, and you can surmise different reasons why 978 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: different muscle groups are happening to burst now or not. 979 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: But every you know, in terms of how you're training, 980 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: and lots of things could be affecting that. But like 981 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: there are more of those types of injuries. He's out 982 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: for the season, and so the forty nine Ers defense 983 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: is on my list of things. I just like, I'm 984 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna give you some numbers. Twenty fourth in defensive EPA, 985 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: thirtieth in net yards per attempt allowed to passers, thirtieth 986 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: yards per play allowed, twenty first in DVOA. In general, 987 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: they're just bad and I'm thinking, like why, And I 988 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: think if they're thin, like there's bigger weak spots. Leonard 989 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: Floyd is not playing well for them, and he's playing 990 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: a lot uh play, Yeah, and that's probably why he's 991 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: not playing well. I ter gross spot before, like there's 992 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: no rotation. Now you take away to von Hargrave. They're thin. 993 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: They have just problem spots. Isaac Yadam just picked Don 994 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: by Matthew Stafford in that game. That's a really weak spot. 995 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell who's playing at linebacker. They really missed Drake 996 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: Greenlaw and then their coordinator Nick Sorenson. It just might 997 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: be one of those things kind of that Belichick went through. 998 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: We talked about the disease of more in terms of 999 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: what happens to teams when you have a lot of success. 1000 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 2: This isn't the disease and more, but I think it happens. 1001 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: To winning teams that like they're now on what Kyle's 1002 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: on his sixth defensive coordinator he's ever hired. I mean, 1003 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: he nailed it with those first three or four, but 1004 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: then they fired Steve Wilks last year, and maybe it's 1005 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a brain drain situation and a 1006 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: talent drain. 1007 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 6: There was a report that. 1008 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 4: Came out last week too that Kyle Shanahan tried to 1009 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 4: hire Jeff Ulbrick. Oh my gosh, the New York Jets. Yeah, 1010 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 4: Mikelber that reported this at the San Francisco Chronicle and 1011 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 4: it was Jets defense. To me, yeah, the Jets defensive corner. 1012 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 4: To me, that was like pretty telling again that he's 1013 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,959 Speaker 4: thinking there is some brain drain. I know he lost 1014 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: his I'm not going to say this right continuitous guys, 1015 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 4: the ones who were there for a while who he 1016 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 4: developed in house, who stuck around for a while, he 1017 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 4: lost him, their head coaches. 1018 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: And they happen to be like some of the best 1019 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: defense lines in right. 1020 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and can't find the people necessarily who too right 1021 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 4: or wrong to his own specifications are doing the things 1022 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 4: that those guys did. 1023 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 5: Also, did you see by the way that Christian McCaffrey 1024 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 5: is going to Germany for his Achilles toll this? 1025 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never a good sign either. Another thing that 1026 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 2: wasn't happening in the seventies and eighties. But their offense 1027 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 2: has been fine. 1028 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: Brock Perty bawled out in that game that was one 1029 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: of the actually I think the best games of rock 1030 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: Perty's career. Weirdly, and they lost. I'm actually not worried 1031 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: about their offense. Their offense, by the numbers, in by 1032 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,479 Speaker 1: the eye test has been fine. Yeah, the floors cooked 1033 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: him up a little bit, but their offense is good. 1034 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: The last one I did want to get in Deshaun Watson. 1035 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: How brutal is watching Deshaun Watson play football right now? 1036 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: And then my dislike is actually the media coverage of 1037 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I actually think people are so uncomfortable talking 1038 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson because of who he is as a person, 1039 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: and also because of their relationships at the highest levels 1040 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: of our industry with his agent, David Mullagetta, who was 1041 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: very powerful, and I think they're at that relationship that 1042 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: he has with the media. I said it a lot 1043 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: that I think that trade would not have happened if 1044 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: there was more pushback from the media because of that 1045 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: that not only is that turning out to be like 1046 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: the worst trade in NFL history, but weirdly, he's not 1047 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: getting a ton of heat. 1048 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: For being the absolute like dog of a player that 1049 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: he is. 1050 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: I mean, he's lost, he's holding on to the ball, 1051 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: he's not accurate, he's not athletic. Imagine, like I'm trying 1052 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: to think of a good comp like someone that Young 1053 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: in his career was a top ten quarterback and then 1054 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: for a pretty long stretch of time last year when 1055 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: he played, you know, the year before, certainly these three games, 1056 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: was not just like not what he used to be, 1057 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: but literally one of the worst quarterbacks in the league 1058 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: by any metric. Like last he's second to last or 1059 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: third to last at everything. It's just a question of 1060 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: Bryce Young's behind him and everything. Skyler Thompson is now 1061 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: behind him in some things, like and that's Deshaun Watson. 1062 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: And yet there's like, weirdly, not a lot of like, hey, 1063 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 2: why are we benching this guy? Aren't we trying to 1064 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: win football games? 1065 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's because people are uncomfortable, and I 1066 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: think it's because of the agent. 1067 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 3: But I think he's getting baken out by a sniper. 1068 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: It's like if Trevor Lawrence was playing this bad like 1069 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: and that's not even a great comp Like I'm saying 1070 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: this bad like worst quarterback in the league, wouldn't that 1071 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: be leading all the shows? 1072 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: I mean, forget Dak Prescott. Imagine if Dak Prescott. 1073 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: Played this bad for a month, much less for three seasons, like, 1074 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: people would go in insane. 1075 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 4: I know it's Cleveland, but market to be fair, but 1076 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 4: I will I will say like or. 1077 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, that's a better example. Daniel Jones has never 1078 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: been close to the Heights. And again it's a different market, 1079 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: but no market. Deshaun Watson's a big superstar. We're not 1080 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: talking about this superstar who is sinking this franchise because 1081 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: of the way he's playing. 1082 00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 3: There's no upside. 1083 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: I think there's a part of the nuance here is 1084 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 4: that there's it seems to be a sense of helplessness, 1085 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 4: helplessness from the organization itself who made this decision because 1086 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 4: of the contract. So it's like, you know what the 1087 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 4: solution is, right and you know there is no sort 1088 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 4: of uh, you can't move in this. It's suffocating you. 1089 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 4: You know, it's just it is one of the craziest 1090 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 4: things I've ever seen. 1091 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 3: They have the ability to make a change, though, like 1092 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 3: I think they're going. 1093 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: I think they're going to if he plays like this 1094 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: another couple of weeks. I think it's like you think 1095 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: it takes two more weeks. I get why they came 1096 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: into this season like, well, let's try it again, but 1097 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: this time he'll stay healthy. And you know you had 1098 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: you had to try it again, maybe because of the contract. 1099 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: But I do think it's getting to the point he's 1100 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: unplayable that you don't think the other players on his team. 1101 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 4: I don't, and I don't think that people who general 1102 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 4: generally do know what they're looking at in terms of football, 1103 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 4: like the or they're smart people in that building. What 1104 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying is I feel like this is a ownership situation. 1105 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 4: We've put I feel like I feel like it's the 1106 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 4: contract it self is holding a lot of people's hands 1107 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 4: behind their backs in that building. 1108 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 3: Jamis Winston. Let's see, let's go. 1109 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 2: That would be fun. 1110 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the sneaks aren't really fooling anyone. All right, 1111 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: we alred that was it for the dislikes. I have 1112 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: to get that one, and let's talk about this Giants 1113 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: and Cowboys game. Will do it after the break. 1114 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 3: I like this game. 1115 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: We too. We are back on NFL Daily and yes 1116 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: it is time for our tenf preview presented by Prime Video. 1117 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1118 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: Jordan had the temerity to ask me, as we're going 1119 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: to break, do you really like this Cowboys Giants game? Well, 1120 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: first of all, I'd be dying for this game, and 1121 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, the desert of May. But second of all, 1122 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: how dare you imply that I would ever be anything 1123 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: but one hundred percent genuine with the audience? 1124 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 5: You know? 1125 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 6: How dare I? And how dare I suggest that I. 1126 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: Really am excated for this game because I think losing 1127 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 1: teams have bigger steaks early in the season, so there's 1128 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: actually a reason to it. When they enter the fourth quarter. 1129 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: In the Commanders Bengals game, I thought like, ooh, this 1130 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: is a big moment in this season. It's a real 1131 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: deal Super Bowl contender. We thought that's about to go 1132 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: to zero to three. So there's more stakes than if 1133 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: you're just two and one and it's like another game. 1134 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: And for the Cowboys, this is a big spot. 1135 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, this is a big spot. 1136 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: Yes, So Mike McCarthy has been taking some heat and 1137 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: he is starting to sound like he feels the pressure. 1138 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: His players just uniformly. 1139 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Dak Prescott all said 1140 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: separately that we need to do a better job with 1141 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: the details, with the preparation, as if they were sending 1142 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: a message to I don't know if it was other 1143 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: players or it was the coaches or what, but let's 1144 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: listen to Mike McCarthy asked about it on Monday. 1145 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 10: Big Harris Bowarsar Tellingery Monday, you said, you guys don't 1146 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 10: have a ton of time for corrections this week. But 1147 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 10: with Jordan Lewis talking about details, Michael Parsons last night 1148 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 10: talking about accountability, how do you kind of work those 1149 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 10: conversations And. 1150 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 7: It's pretty dramatic there, Nick I tell you must practice 1151 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 7: that one. I mean, well, hey, Thursday schedule. I mean, 1152 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 7: that's what we're on. I mean, it's, uh, we didn't 1153 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 7: win the game, so it's I think that's that's that's 1154 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 7: part of where we are. I mean, so yeah, I 1155 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 7: think they do a good job of, you know, answering 1156 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 7: your questions. It's emotional after the game, so I'm not 1157 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 7: I'm not ever going to referee motion on the field 1158 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 7: or after a game. 1159 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 3: That's some sass there from Mike McCarthy. 1160 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 4: I thought that question was the appropriate amount of dramatic 1161 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: considering how this is going. 1162 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't dramatic at all. 1163 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: That was said Nick Harris for asking a good question, 1164 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 1165 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, he accused him of practicing the question ahead of 1166 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm as well. 1167 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: That gave me, Oh, you're feeling some heat vibes, because 1168 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: that's just like a coach lashing out. 1169 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 2: It's like someone taking it out on like a preparation. 1170 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 4: What about being prepared to answer that question if your 1171 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 4: players were publicly talking about it. 1172 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard some speculation on. 1173 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: A Cowboys podcast just like you know, maybe that came 1174 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: right after a meeting with Jerry you know, what I mean, 1175 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: he's just in like a bad mood. 1176 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 6: You could see that. 1177 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. 1178 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 4: Well, also, by the way, it's genuinely like a good dude, 1179 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 4: seems like. But it just also is like, man, when 1180 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 4: you when coaches feel the heat like that, the lame 1181 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: duck conversation, you know that type of thing. Yeah, that's 1182 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 4: when oh man, people get real tight. 1183 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 3: You can tell that wasn't about the actual question. 1184 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't about the question or the person. That 1185 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 4: was about him and only him. 1186 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 2: Although maybe he would know that. 1187 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: He's taking it as a shot of like we're not 1188 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: that prepped and he's in a lame duck year that 1189 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: you mentioned I mentioned earlier. Like to me, they all right, 1190 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: not like a very game plan specific type of team. 1191 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: They kind of run what they run, and I didn't 1192 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: think they attacked some of the weaknesses of the Ravens 1193 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: that well Mike Zimmers had going into the game. It 1194 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 1: was a prove it game, approve it game to against 1195 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: the Ring. Wow, what they prove That's what I'm saying, Like, 1196 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: especially the lineback. 1197 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 3: They need help with their run defense. 1198 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: In safety level. I know the Giants aren't like a 1199 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: great running team, but I think they're a little more 1200 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: specific and intentional in what they do Brian Dable on offense, 1201 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: and they've had some positive things, and I think their 1202 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: offensive line is solid. I think this is the best 1203 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,760 Speaker 1: offensive line the Giants have had in like a decade. 1204 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: It's like a reasonable offensive line. That's a good place 1205 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: to start. 1206 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 5: Devin Singletary has a juicy matchup, I think in this 1207 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 5: game because the Cowboys defense, as we're talking about them 1208 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 5: right now, they've allowed one hundred and ninety and two 1209 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy four rushing yards the past two weeks, 1210 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 5: so more than twenty two hundred and twenty of those 1211 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 5: yards have come before contact. They've missed thirty two tackles 1212 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 5: this season, and on those plays, they've allowed two hundred 1213 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 5: and forty one yards, which is third most. DeMarcus Lawrence 1214 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 5: has missed nine alone. Singletary, he's done a really good 1215 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 5: job making guys miss force nineteen miss tackles through three weeks, 1216 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 5: which is third most in the entire league. But I 1217 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 5: think that because Dallas can't stop the run. They've had 1218 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 5: no pass rush either the past at least the past 1219 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 5: two games, so teams they just haven't been in long 1220 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 5: passing situations on those critical third downs. So opposing quarterbacks 1221 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 5: have had a ton of time to just like picnic 1222 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 5: if they wanted to, and we saw it with Lamar 1223 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 5: Jackson and what he was able to do. Plus the 1224 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 5: Cowboys offense was completely asleep for the first three quarters 1225 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 5: of that game, finally woke up in the fourth or 1226 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 5: I guess you could see it as the Ravens weren't 1227 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 5: able to close out a game once again in the 1228 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 5: fourth quarter. 1229 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 4: I think this is an opportunity to for Brian Dable 1230 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 4: and the Giants to start doing a little bit more 1231 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 4: of what has been somewhat effective, especially more recently, which 1232 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 4: is getting designed runs in for Daniel Jones. Next Gen 1233 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 4: says he's recorded the fifth most designed quarterback rushes this season, 1234 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 4: resulting in the fourth most such yards. And so if 1235 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 4: you can add that type of layer, that threat, like 1236 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 4: we talked about earlier, that threat of that type of 1237 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 4: run against a defensive front that's already poorous last in 1238 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 4: the league in yards per game rushing defense, if you 1239 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 4: can add that and then also just have a straightforward 1240 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 4: running back attack as well, that gives them all kinds 1241 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 4: of nightmares to think about when they're already struggling that 1242 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 4: much to defend the run. 1243 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: Right, let's give some love to the giants. Two weeks ago, 1244 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: were saying, is this going to be Daniel Jones's last game? 1245 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: That was me my bet. 1246 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,439 Speaker 1: Two positive games, two positive games in earw you're playing 1247 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: the Browns defense. Last week he got away with a couple. 1248 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones he plays, so there was some fortune there. 1249 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 5: I mean the way that they open that game, they 1250 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,439 Speaker 5: completely put up the beginning of that game. 1251 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: Colleen, this is a program. This is the best I 1252 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: want my child, So listen now I'm kidding. You're right 1253 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: they started that game that way. But then you think 1254 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: about what Daniel Jones And yeah, he had an interception 1255 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: that was called back, but he started eighteen for twenty 1256 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: in a game against the Cleveland Browns. That's good coaching. 1257 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: I think he's played better in terms of his decisions. 1258 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: And then they have a real football guy in Malik Name. 1259 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 6: Oh my god, he's a miracle. 1260 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: You know what, Like the great catches are one thing. 1261 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: I really got into the fourth down, like now you 1262 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: can give him the ball on fourth down as a 1263 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: runner in a key spot. And then he had a 1264 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 1: pass breakup where Jones was gonna one of those Daniel 1265 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: Jones plays where it was going to be intercepted and 1266 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: Neighbors comes flying in and knocks it down. 1267 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's a football guy. 1268 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 6: Oh here's what I think. 1269 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 4: So you're you're seeing like all of this potential here. 1270 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 4: They're trying different things with the quarterback in the run game. 1271 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 4: They're trying a couple you can, you can't, you can 1272 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 4: hand it off to Malik Neighbors, And what they're doing 1273 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 4: almost seems to hint to me like they're sneakily sort 1274 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 4: of setting up different types of mister plays, sweeps and 1275 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 4: end arounds, things like that, especially against the front that 1276 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 4: has just gassed on the other side, and he and 1277 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 4: lak Naghbors has been sent in motion on thirty one snaps, 1278 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 4: which is the highest of any anyone else on his team, 1279 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 4: and a lot of it's at snap motion, which to 1280 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: me talks about the potential down the road of taking 1281 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 4: these handoffs and again adding like three layers into your 1282 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 4: run game, three dimensions into your run game, that there 1283 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 4: is no way this Cowboys defense is prepared for. 1284 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 6: If they keep playing the way that. 1285 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: They have, giants are going to win this game, right, Like, 1286 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going that far. They're four 1287 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. 1288 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 3: Which to me is way too big, and so I'm 1289 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 3: taking the Giants. 1290 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm taking the Cowboys. 1291 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: It's a really important game for them, and I think 1292 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,439 Speaker 1: the Giants are better, and so I'm threading the needle. 1293 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: I feel better about the Giants picking both. No, yeah, 1294 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I feel better about the Giants 1295 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: plus four and a half than I do. 1296 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: Either team win the game. 1297 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: But I ultimately I am gonna trust in talent, but 1298 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: I think game plan wise, I trust Stable to do 1299 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: more to help his players win. Then then McCarthy coming 1300 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: up with some schemes, it's like where are there other guys, Like, 1301 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: let's get a little more for I literally wrote this 1302 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: down and thought, this is not a good sign. 1303 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 2: We need more Turpin, we need more lip Key. 1304 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: That's their god, that's their like fourth string receiver who's 1305 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: more of a gadget guy but is so explosive. And 1306 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: then Hunter Lipkey, who's their fullback but is actually kind 1307 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: of awesome. But the Giants secondary is is Cheeks. 1308 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: It's rough. 1309 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 4: So if like if you get see we got quite 1310 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 4: a theme on this showday. 1311 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: It's rough like they wanted Deontay Banks to be a 1312 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: top cornwreck. 1313 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: He's just not. 1314 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: Dorri Jackson is hurt court like there are there are 1315 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: there should be guys open for the Cowboy. 1316 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to throw it because they can't. They're 1317 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 4: not running it well either. 1318 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 1: No, they're not built for twenty twenty four. I've been 1319 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: thinking about who are the teams not built for this 1320 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: new run based world we're in. Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys 1321 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: might be your number one team on the list because 1322 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: they can't run the ball and they can't stop the run. 1323 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 3: They have no big plays they I mean, they can't 1324 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 3: score touchdowns. It's a real problem, man. 1325 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: It would be something Giants fans out there, I can't 1326 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: remember the last time I rooted for you, but I'm 1327 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: rooting for you in this game. Just same, the chaos 1328 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: of it all. But I've taken the Cowboys to win 1329 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: by three. Yeah, n you want to pick. 1330 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm I was waiting for you to introduce the my 1331 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 4: probably losing pick because I am terrible at picking. Listeners 1332 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 4: have not figured everyone is I am horrific at picking, 1333 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 4: but I am picking the Giants in this one. Sorry 1334 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 4: Giants fans if that means that your team loses, because 1335 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 4: I'm terrible at picking, but I am picking it. I 1336 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 4: just think the Giants just can do more things to 1337 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 4: antagonize this Cowboys defense. I think that that is very 1338 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 4: This matchup is glaringly obvious for those reasons. And Brian 1339 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 4: Dable is also kind of coaching with his back against 1340 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 4: the wall in a lot of ways. 1341 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: Yep, they hate their pass rush played awesome last week, 1342 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence one of the very best and league Brian 1343 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Burns coming a long against a Cowboys line that has 1344 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: been playing great like even Zach Martin Pac Martin's first 1345 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: bout Hall of Famer, but he is not at that 1346 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: high level. 1347 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: You just you just see the the erosion Cowboys. Let's 1348 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: let's enjoy it. 1349 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: On Thursday night, I'll be with Danny Hifitz, who's a 1350 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Giants fan from the Ringer. 1351 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 6: I really like, Oh, you're buckling in for a Giants 1352 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 6: game with Danny. 1353 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,959 Speaker 1: And the Dantasy uh Fantasy Hour over at the Ringer. 1354 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm calling it, all right. That was this 1355 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: week's tenf preview, presented by Prime Video. Be sure to 1356 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: watch the Dallas Cowboys take on the New York Giants 1357 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,959 Speaker 1: this Thursday on Prime Video. 1358 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Let's uh say goodbye to you. What a great show. 1359 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Enjoyed having you guys in the Chris Wesley Podcast Studio. 1360 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Love you guys and love our preview show. 1361 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: We will have like Deve, we not dislike. Yeah, like 1362 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: if we like this show, we like each other. Also 1363 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: like weish. Clay Bond will be with me and we'll 1364 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: do the preview h for Thursday. 1365 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 2: I'll see you then. Until then, football is back.