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Welcome back. 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: As we move into our two of up one game 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: coming to you live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios. 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes could save you or more on car insurance. 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Visit Geico dot com for a free rate quote. So 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: as we move into the second hour, we need to 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: get into what we do best, the NFL coaches on 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the hot seat, which coaches up and coming coaches deserve 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity to finally get that head coaching um job, 37 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and which coaches are on the hot seat that we 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: know you're probably gonna lose your job, which is unfortunate 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: because it affects not just the head coach but a 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of assistant coaches and which coaches and or teams 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: that nobody is talking about might end up firing and 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: getting rid of their coach and be looking and searching 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: for a new head coach. I'm gonna jump right in 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: on that because I think that there's been a lot 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: of failures that have taken place this year. I'll start 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: with guys that have already lost their jobs with Dan Quinn, 47 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, and Matt Patricia uh And I'll just I'll 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: just say this, those seats were hot coming into the season, 49 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: and those seats got way too hot to stay on 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: them as the season continued. So when you look at 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: what Bill o'brown, I'll start with Bill O'Brien because everybody 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: knows I have a chronicled history ever since he went 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: to Penn State of having interesting perspectives and about that. 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, I heard that he was the type of 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: guy that you just don't you don't buy into, you 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: don't believe in, you don't trust from the people that 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: were close to it. That and I knew a whole 58 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of kids that went there because well, quite frankly, 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you are I know them very well. We'll put it 60 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: to you like that, and and so when I heard 61 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: how the people were treated that were in the office. 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: And now granted there were a lot of heavy things 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: going on at the time when O'Brien came in, but 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: the way I heard he handled people and the way 65 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: he spoke to people was less than flatter. Now you 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: fast forward to where we are now, the handling of 67 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre uh DeAndre Hopkins and and the handling of of 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: just the GM duties as the coach of of the Texans. 69 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I just felt as though, if you're not gonna be 70 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: a person to other people, and you're gonna be this 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: something else, then you had better get the results. It's 72 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: almost like everybody who comes from the Billow Bill Belichick 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: coaching tree tries to come with this this kind of mentality. Right, 74 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: you can just be like as void of emotion and 75 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: void of being able to connect with people on a 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: personal level just because of what I don't know what 77 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: that what is, but it ultimately led to his demise. 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn a different story in the sense that I 79 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: felt as though he was a player's coach. I was 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: really really uh interested as to why the train went 81 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: so far off of the rails. For the alattin Land 82 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: to Falcons and how that led to his demise. But 83 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: those were my two that I looked at. And obviously 84 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia being the same as Bill O'Brien, what say 85 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: you guys, Well, for me, I'll go the Bill O'Brien 86 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: thing was, it was just odd. You give up multiple 87 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: draft picks for Larmie Tonzo and you don't negotiate an 88 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: extension prior to that. That's just not smart. The player 89 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: has all the leverage, in which in the NFL we 90 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: never have that, and then you trade at worst the 91 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: second best receiver in the league for David Johnson and 92 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: a second round pick. And then you see a guy 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: like Stefon Diggs who is a really, really, really good receiver, 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: but people do not put him in the same category 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: as DeAndre Hopkins, and they get first round picks for that. 96 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Talking to Buffalo Bills when they got him from Minnesota, 97 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the team and he's completely changed their team because you 98 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: can't cover them one on one. And so you look 99 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: at that and say, oh, that's just at dan Quinn. 100 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: To me, dan quinns a defensive guy. You cannot give 101 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: up leads that the Atlanta Falcons have continued to have 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: and you're a defensive coach, you just and then that 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: he's gone, they're playing better on defense. So now it 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: really looks like you were the problem because now that 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: you're calling, they're playing better on defense without you, and 106 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: you're a defensive guy. And it's just what you said, 107 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: May Patricia your trade. You get rid of Darius Slay, 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: you get rid of uh you're saying queenn Um Seattle. 109 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: God when he's fired, people normally speak off the record. 110 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: You got guys that are playing right now. Marvin Jones 111 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: is like, man, we can be ourselves a different teams. 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: So it's warranted. Andrew and Peterson back to having fun again, 113 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: back to having fun again. And so it was more 114 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: of a dictatorship and you couldn't be yourself and have 115 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: fun and you can't. You can't do that with grown 116 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: men unless you're winning or you have the cachet that 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has, and they haven't developed and earned that yet. 118 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm You know, I played for a 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: great coach and he used to always say this, which 120 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: one could player or Coughlin and Mike Tomlin didn't play 121 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: for three good ones and Mike Tomlin used to always say, 122 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: he's a gentleman. We are in a performance driven business. 123 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: We are in a performance driven business. And I'm not 124 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: really fond of Bill O'Brien and Dan Quinn and Matt Patricia. 125 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't know them, but in the football world it's 126 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: a small fraternity, and when players talk, it's usually the 127 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: truth hundred percent of the time about their coaches, the organization, 128 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: and who they're playing for. You think about Bill O'Brien, 129 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: general manager, listen to this, DeAndre Hopkins, Laron B. Tuncil 130 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and Jr. Dave and Clowney. Those are three cornerstones of 131 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: your organization right there, and arguably the best at that 132 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: position in the whole entire league. And as far as 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: dan Quinn is concerned, the Super Bowl that happened years 134 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: ago here would never get They're still in recovery mode 135 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: from that alone. So as far as this Land is concerned, 136 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: they are not winning enough football games two basically recover 137 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl giving up what twenty eight points 138 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: in the second half by itself. So and and Mat 139 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: and Matt Patricia, we all know the truth. I mean, 140 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: let's just come on and be honest. I mean, he's 141 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: he was a product of basically they all were Tom Brady. 142 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: You know what, if you give us seventeen points, the 143 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: Patriots will in ten out of ten times because you 144 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: know why, because you had the greatest quarterback NFL history. 145 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: So it's easy to coach the defense when you know that. 146 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, you can give up ten, fifteen, seventeen points 147 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday and still win football games product of the environment. 148 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, all right, So let's transition 149 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: over to lead candidates. Obviously, Rob rob Sala, Uh, you 150 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: know has done well as a defensive coordinator in in 151 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco for for the forty Niners. Uh. One of 152 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: the facial figures of that that Super Bowl run team 153 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: became a household name. Everybody has been in constant debate 154 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: about Eric b Enemy and how long that that charade 155 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: will last in terms of him not getting getting that 156 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: that not to take over someone's team. Uh. A few 157 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: of you interesting names, and I mean Byron Leftwich in 158 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. Uh, what's what's his situation? Uh? Brian 159 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: the Ball, the the you know, and and Buffalo. There's 160 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: some really there's some really talented coaches out there right 161 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: now that should be in position to take over these jobs. 162 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: But how do you guys see it? Like? Where where 163 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: would the best fit be? Because there are some teams 164 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: that are going to fire coaches. I wonder if the 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Jets are going to fire Gates? What wonder is gone? 166 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm up being a New Jersey area. I get this 167 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: every single day because he's gone. It's New York. There 168 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: is no more seat. It's burnt up. He's sitting on 169 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: the curb and his legs ain't even hitting the car short, 170 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no more hot seat. What are you 171 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: talking about? Listen, NFL the New York Jets. Um, I 172 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: don't have any coaching experience, but I can coach. I mean, 173 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna garden. You're gonna garner respect, that's for sure. 174 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: But I know what I know one thing. I know 175 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: some players that I've played with who are very intelligent, 176 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: and I can put together a roster coaches, and I 177 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: can go out and win a ball game. I bet 178 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: you that I've never had any NFL coaching experience, but 179 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I think twelve years of playing the game and understanding 180 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: it and being taught how to play the game, not coach. 181 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: And that's where the NBA is still ahead of the NFL. 182 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: We just talked thing last last hour. They they do 183 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: you think that is they gave all these players like 184 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Steve Nash no coaching experience, gets the job. Why do 185 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: we think that is that guys in the NBA get 186 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: treated much differently like they're on the go ahead. I 187 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: won't just say, um, I won't just say NBA because 188 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I watched John Lynch go for the booth to being 189 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: a general manager, Mike may I. I mean think about that. 190 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Think about that he was you know, he was an analyst, 191 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: did drafts, did drafts, and it became a general age, 192 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: no front no front office experience. So it just doesn't 193 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: happen in the NBA. It's happening all this around us. 194 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: But you know, we have to be real about it 195 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and address the situation as it is. Well, what is it? 196 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Cronial cronyism? Huh? Is it? It's definitely nepotism and cronyism involved. 197 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: But I mean, so what, Like, I know a lot 198 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: of people have an issue with croniism. I'll say this, 199 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: if if I build a coaching tree, or if I 200 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: build a lane, going with friends, I'm going with the 201 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: people I trust. The most like, I don't. You can. 202 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: You can be mad at me all you want. I 203 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: could here less. I'm going with the because you know what, 204 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: when you're getting them trenches and you will getting them trenches. 205 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Like think some of these coaches we name it people 206 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: you trust. You gotta have people you trust, because if 207 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: there ain't people you trust, there's gonna be a knife 208 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: hit in that ground. It's gonna have blood on it. 209 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna look at and it's gonna be your DNA 210 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: on there. So I don't I don't subscribe to it anyway. 211 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: But is that is that the issue that the crony 212 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: ism is with the coaches or is it with with 213 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the organizations? Like where where do we go with that? 214 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that it's a it's a little 215 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: bit of buffing. And to get back to what you 216 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: were asking there, you look at Adam Gates, He's gone, 217 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Anthony He? He will be? What's 218 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna happen with Anthony Lynn and the l A charges will? 219 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Will he be brought back next year? You don't know 220 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Zach Taylor and Cincinnati. But the 221 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: Bengals have shown they don't like the fire coach that 222 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: has years left um on his contract. There's just so 223 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: many and you never know. There just might be a 224 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: team that is just fed up with what has transpired 225 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: this year, they get rid of their coach and you say, 226 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: who are these up and coming coordinators? To me, at 227 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the front of the line should be Eric B. Enemy 228 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: after Eric B. Enemy should be Salat in San Francisco. 229 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: And what what intrigues me about him is very rarely 230 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: do you hear your players come out and campaign for 231 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: an assistant coach to be given an opportunity. And when 232 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman came out and said he can lead man, 233 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. Um, I belief he deserves that. 234 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: That resonates with me because you don't see that where 235 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: players really come out and campaign for their defensive coordinator 236 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: and or assistant coach to be given a head coaching job. 237 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: But I'm sure Byron left, which I think that might 238 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: be a little too premature, um, But maybe he will 239 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: get an opportunity, and there'll be some guys that come 240 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, like Mike Tomlin when they hired him 241 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, kind of came out of nowhere, and so 242 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. But Marcella's will kind to give 243 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: us his viewpoint on Annie's coming on here shortly. Um Plax, 244 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: what you think, man Byron left Witch you said maybe 245 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: a little bit premature, maybe, but I think he's very 246 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: deserving at the top of the list, Eric Bingemy, no 247 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: doubt about it. He definitely deserves. He definitely deserves his 248 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: chance to go out and you know, be a head 249 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: coach and in this National Football League, and not just 250 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, coaches that will become first time head coaches. 251 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: There are other coaches that deserve another opportunity. Guys like 252 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier, you know wh who everybody has a ton 253 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: of respect for. Guys like Leslie Fraser deserve another chance, 254 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: not just you know, first time head coaches filling those seats. 255 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: So you gotta give some head coaches another opportunity. So 256 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: will be coming back. We'll be taking a break, but 257 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: when we do come back, we'll have that dude. If 258 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: you guys do not know who that dude is, that 259 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: dude is Marcellus Wally Um co host to speak for yourself, 260 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: will expand on this conversation, kind of get his viewpoint 261 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: on it um. 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What I do too. 330 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: So we we were talking about and we have Marcella's 331 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: coming in shortly. Still just trying to get a hold 332 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: of him. Don't worry about it, folks, We're gonna get 333 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: him on. But let's go back. Let's go back to 334 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: just talking about how difficult because you made an interesting 335 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: point plex about I don't have coaching experience, but darn 336 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: short could come in with my experience as a player 337 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: and what I've learned as a player from the coaches 338 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: that I've coached under. And you know what we're gonna ask. 339 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna pose this question to our next guest. He's 340 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: on our hot line. Speak for yourselves, super mega. What 341 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: should I say? Host or co host? He's the host. 342 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: He's got to be the host because he's the co 343 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: host Killer. It is the co host Killer. You can 344 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: find him at Marcelli is Wiley. Some of us know 345 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: him affectionately as that dude. What's up something ourselves? How 346 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: you doing coming? Welcome into the show, man, Appreciate you 347 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: coming in. Oh man, it's nothing the love right here 348 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: over here. Appreciate, appreciate. So so let's jump right into 349 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: this because you have a lot of of great insight 350 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: and you know, uh Accho always accuses you of cooking 351 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: up the books, but we're gonna let you cook as 352 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: much as you want to cook on this on this show, 353 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: talk to us about we're talking about coaches, hot seats, 354 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: and league candidates coming into this season. I was just 355 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: about the asplexico from his perspective, he said, basically, look, 356 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: I played for twelve years. Some of these hires and 357 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: some of these guys that are failing on repeated situations, 358 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: how should we be viewing hiring of coaches. We may 359 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: mention of the fact NBA UH players are showing the 360 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: type of love where they're able to come in on 361 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: fellowships and end up being on the sideline, end up 362 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: being head coaches. I think of Tyron lou you know, 363 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: you think of Doc Rivers. Most of these coaches are 364 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: former players that have played. What's what's your take on that? 365 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: And is that something that is possibly something that could 366 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: take place in the National Football League? Yeah? You know, 367 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting, man, when we talk about hires, we all 368 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: know about the good old boy club and how that networking, 369 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: whether it's through nepotism or cronyism, how those relationships just 370 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: always manifest into opportunities. And sometimes we draw those opportunities 371 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: by racial lines. Sometimes we look at them by status 372 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: in terms of former player or the relationships they had 373 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: with other coaches. It's it's really a mixed bag of 374 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: nuts when you talk about how do you climb to 375 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the top and get an opportunity like that. But the 376 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: craziest thing is, I think you have to learn as 377 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: a former player and talking to anybody who wants to 378 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: be a coach, that you got to play the game 379 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: within the game, and you gotta play it properly. A 380 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: lot of times we get caught up in just putting 381 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: up our numbers, putting up our stats, getting our checks, 382 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: getting our accolades, and we're gone. But there are a 383 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: lot of people out there plotting and manipulating and trying 384 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: to strategize to get to those same opportunities. So if 385 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: you just show up thinking that I could put your 386 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: jersey out there, put your name out there, and that's 387 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: good enough. Uh, there's more to the game than that. 388 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: And I think some coaches we could talk about. Um, 389 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: some Eric the Enemy comes to mind. That a guy 390 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: that hasn't necessarily benefited from playing the game within the game, 391 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: despite playing, according to him, to the to the same 392 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: rules as others. So Matt Naggie gets a job. Eric 393 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: the Enemy doesn't get the job, but they had the 394 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: same job before with the same amount of success. So 395 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: it's an interesting play man. But all things considered, I 396 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: just tell players, if you really want to coach, you 397 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: gotta dedicate to that as much as you did to 398 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: being a player, because it's a tough game to get 399 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: all right. Speaking of coaching, Marcellis, we know you're very fine. 400 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I believe you are a season ticket holder of the 401 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: l A Chargers. Um, what do you think is gonna 402 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: happen with Anthony Lynn. Will he be given another year 403 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: or will he be gone? He gone? It's weird in 404 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: this world, man, how they say, you know, you gotta 405 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: be PC and when you see strangers, you gotta be 406 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: for light to him. And then when you think your 407 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: people should be real to dog, I'm one hunter, no 408 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: matter who you are, especially if you're my family, and 409 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: like family, I respect him so much. I think he 410 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: was in balance, like no one knew what to do 411 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: with his job security until we saw them play the Patriots, 412 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: and I think that drove the point home that WHOA, 413 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: something's not right here. We have too much talent not 414 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: to just be losing, but losing by that number, losing 415 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: in that fashion. That's when things got ugly. And then 416 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: in the sun a week the Patriots get drugged by 417 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the Rams, right in your same stadium, and that makes 418 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: you realize how distant you are from your goals. So 419 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm not a hundred percent certain, but I think that 420 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: this fan base, and we all know how it goes. 421 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: You got to reset the fan base is expectations, and 422 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: basically you can't roll out with the same players, same coaches, 423 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: same team and say things gonna be different. Most people 424 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: don't invest in buy into that. Hey that dude, right, 425 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: I got I got two questions for you, man, Yeah, 426 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: you you're Compton l A guy, right, watch your back? 427 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: How the hell did you go from Compton to Columbia University? 428 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: They both started with a CEO, right, going from playing 429 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: football in California? How you end up in Columbia Universe? 430 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: An author? You don't want to answer? Plea? I mean 431 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to answer. Marcelisten said he had two 432 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: questions waiting on the second one or did we lose him? 433 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Did we lose them? We lost him, but we gotta 434 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: get him back. I'm interested to hear the answer to 435 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: that question as well. How you go from from Captain Tomba. 436 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: He was always a high i Q guy school and 437 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: you know school was more important to him in sports 438 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: at the time in Compton. In Compton, yeah, all I 439 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: heard was Compton didn't Hey, so growing up playing football 440 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: in California? How did you end up in Columbia University? 441 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: This don't make sense to me. It's like it's it's 442 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: like the Miami guys in the foot Law of their Guys, 443 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: like why did y'all leave Florida to come to Michigan State. 444 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: They never made a sense to me. Yeah, that's a 445 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: real question, man, I feel you in the short answer 446 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: of it. Man, growing up in l a and knowing 447 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: so many neighborhoods super stars, this guy has started for me. 448 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm eight years old and I'm getting my love. I'm 449 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: like a little Pop Warner beast out there. But there 450 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: are other guys older than me killing it, and I'm 451 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: watching them. I'm seeing where they go to high school, 452 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: where they go to college. Do they make it pro 453 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: or how do they transition into the real world because 454 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: they didn't make it. And I just kept seeing guys 455 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: as talented or more talented than I not making it 456 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: all the way, whether that's to the pro level or 457 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: to a smooth transition to the real world. So I 458 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: just started to think, seriously, Like at nine, ten, twelve, 459 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta do the game different. I 460 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: don't know how, and I don't know if you can 461 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: do the game different. But before I got to high school, 462 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I started to think I can't just be another dude 463 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: thinking I'm a Bahler and I'm gonna make it and 464 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: everything's gonna work out. So when I got my scholarship 465 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: opportunities and recruiting trips. I took like three or four 466 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: big ones, all the Pac ten schools and stuff like that. 467 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I took my big trips to satisfy the fact that 468 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: if I'm a bawler, I got to go to a 469 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: big school so I can make it to the League. 470 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: But then part of me reserved some space for the 471 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: transition to the real world. So I started thinking academically, 472 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: and I got recruited by my league schools, but really 473 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: Columbia was the only one that stepped up like that. 474 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: Took a trip to New York Man and then I 475 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: was sold because my features, my family, everybody was like, look, 476 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out, you're gonna have a great 477 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: safety net in your education. But if it does work out, 478 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you got the best of both worlds. Because people don't 479 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: just think you smart, even though you come down. Even 480 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: when you say Columbia just jumps off the page when 481 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: you just say Columbia University, Marcellis. But you know the 482 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: truth is they said you was gonna be like Tuik 483 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: from from Power Book on campus, and you even admitted 484 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: it yourself that you and Jay z and and did 485 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: he was it you jay Z And did he shut 486 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: down New York City when you go there for Cloud? 487 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: Was Cloud chasing? Tell the true I was trying to 488 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: get that love through seven. Yeah, you had your back then. 489 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: But look, but getting back to the coaching, you know, 490 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: getting back to the coaching. Um. You know, I played 491 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: for my two thousand seven uh coaching staff for the 492 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: New York Giants. We went on to win, to win 493 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and and none of none of the 494 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: coaches on that staff never played professional football. So what 495 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take away anything from the coaches 496 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: that are, you know, coaching that they don't deserve the 497 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: opportunity because there are great coaches out there who have 498 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: never played the game. That a great coach. But I 499 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: always say that if you study anything long enough, you 500 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: can learn anything. And you know, I look at a 501 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: coach like blind Brian Flora as what happened with the 502 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins last week, and you know, they had a 503 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: melee on the field and fight broke out and all 504 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: those kind of things. And he got in front of 505 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: the camera after the game and he said, you know what, 506 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: we have to compose We have to compose ourselves better. 507 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna stick up for my players and let 508 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: me know if you ever had a coach that you 509 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: know you have to be respected as a head coach, 510 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: I think to get the best out of your players 511 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: walking through the door in the morning as a player 512 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: and knowing that your coach says that and he has 513 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: your back like you, you played different, you play harder. 514 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a coach that you had that 515 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: much respect for that you was gonna give it extra 516 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: effort for? Yeah? Man, it's crazy and it comes so 517 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: many different ways. How you can respect someone. You can 518 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: respect him because you know that they did it before. 519 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: So you walk into day one before you see Mike 520 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Singletary coach, you know that he's your coach. Before any games, 521 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: You're like, yo, are kind of respect this dude because 522 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: he went out there and got it. Now, it's a 523 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: different conversation after you start coaching. You gotta keep the 524 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: door open. Opening the door is based off of what 525 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you did before and your reputation keeping it open. It's 526 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: based on what you do with your job and your title. 527 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I played for Bill Parcels, who instantly 528 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: because of reputation, you're gonna give him respect Marty Schottenheimer, 529 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: who you're gonna have to give that respect well. And 530 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: I also played for Wade Phillips, who you you look 531 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: at Ways Phillips and you think that he's a nice 532 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: guy and he's everybody's pal for he about his business 533 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: and he's so relaxed because he already got you prepared. 534 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: So he's like, job already done. Let's just go back 535 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: there and have some fun on that field. So I 536 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: played with guys that I respected, but we gotta understand 537 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that we respect the most the people that have the acumen, 538 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: have the intelligence, and have the commitment and where what's 539 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: all to make it happen. So Sean McVeigh comes to mind. 540 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people offer resume, will look at Sean 541 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: mcbaby like, I ain't respecting that dude. His granddaddy got 542 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: him in the door. All his relationships can played pro 543 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: And then you talk to Sean McVeigh. You're getting the 544 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: ruin With Sean McVeigh. You realize quick you better fall 545 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: in line because he's gonna lead you somewhere nice. And 546 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: I think there's just so many different ways pleas of 547 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: how someone can demand and command that respect and it 548 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have to come just from being a player. Some 549 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: sorry players are great coaches. Some great players are horrible coaches, 550 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: and they kind of everything in between. Marcelis speaking of 551 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: uh coming from Compton. You're also an accomplished author of 552 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the book Never Shut Up, you guys. Make sure you 553 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: check it out. It could be a great stocking stuffer. Um. 554 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: And and understanding what your journey and all those things 555 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: that you've been through. Uh, we certainly want to give 556 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: our appreciation to you in terms of us being a 557 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: part to speak for yourself a successful show that you 558 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: you co host and and that we are contributors to. 559 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Our last question before we let you go is who's 560 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: your m VP, and just give us a quick reason 561 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: as to why. Yeah, man, we speak for yourself. Family 562 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: with Fox family were just family before all. And I 563 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: love about this man. We're still making it happen m 564 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: my m VT right now, and I'm gonna bring in 565 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: numbers and narratives. In short, as Aaron Rodgers, I think 566 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the numbers to trump everybody else out there. 567 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Catch Up My Home is gonna be right there in 568 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: the conversation. We know he's actually the front runner, right now, 569 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: but he's not the front runner with a story, with 570 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: a narrative. This this trophy, m VP is traveling. They 571 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: love it to touch as many hands as possible, get 572 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: as many faces of the franchise and faces of the 573 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: NFL out there as possible. So I think when it 574 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: comes to a comparable argument and you have a tie 575 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: a tugger war, I think that Aaron Rodgers, who they 576 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: thought was on and declined drafted at his position, moved up, 577 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: got a quarterback in the first round, and he still 578 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: went out there and said middle finger, let me show 579 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: you'a I'm still a feat to say. When they drafted 580 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: old boy, they say, man, I went home and have 581 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: four fingers at the killer. I ain't worried about nothing. Job. Sure, Hey, 582 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: when you say most valuable player, it's think of the 583 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: word most valuable player on the team, obviously Patrick Mahomes. 584 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: But if i'm if I'm to say who's the most 585 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: valuable player? If you take one player off that team, 586 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: they are they don't even make the playoffs, I'm gonna 587 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: go with Dereg Henry. I have to say that because 588 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: if you take Derrick Henry off that football team, what 589 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: do they have offensively. Oh do they have Tanny here? 590 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: They got brown? They got some, they do. But I'm 591 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: just saying I played Rodgers. Take Aaron Rodgers off green Bay. 592 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Watch what happens. See what happens? Like I would think 593 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: that they will be worse than Kansas City without Patrick 594 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes because they still have all those weapons. Like Green 595 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: Bay has the Adams and you know obviously Aaron Jones 596 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: and running game, but they ain't got no quarterback to 597 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: make that happen. So what's gonna happen without Aaron Rodgers? 598 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: You're so doortan about there to see what happens. Yeah, 599 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna It's gonna get ugly. Marcelis Man, truly truly 600 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking time out your day. I know you 601 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: got the babies running around the house. Many right here 602 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: right here looking at me like like a put on 603 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: speaker phone up. Appreciate you coming on man, Thank you man, 604 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: Thanks listen, thank you, thank you dude, peace man, Thank 605 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: you appreciate it. So so now we're gonna get some news. 606 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: What our main man, David Gascon give it to us guys, 607 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: National Football League. Since you guys are there right now. 608 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: Steelers activated center Marquise Pouncy from the reserve COVID nineteen list, 609 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: looks like he'll be able to give it a ghost soon. 610 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals place Jonathan Joseph and I are with a neck injury. 611 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Then kickers Gonzalez has been rolled out against the Giants. 612 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of them, Quarterback Daniel Jones passed his final hurdle 613 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: today with a hamstring check. He's expected to play to 614 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Marlon Austin Hooper of the Cleveland Browns will be a 615 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: Game ten decision against the Baltimore Ravens. Top twenty five 616 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: in college football today, it is a rounde. Arkansas getting 617 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: beat down by Alabamati to three. Matt Jones no touchdown 618 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: passes on the day, two eight yards passing though Georgia 619 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: blowing out in Missouri. JT. Daniels nearly three d yards 620 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: passing and three scores of his own. Northwestern opened up 621 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: account on Illinois to three. Camp Port twenty four carries 622 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: for a buck forty two and to touchdown. Utah has 623 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: the lead at Colorado. They scored fourteen the third quarter 624 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: and now lead is account Ty. Jordan eleven carries for 625 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: eighty four yards and a touchdown. That one in Minnesota 626 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: over Nebraska on FS one seventeen fourteen and lowly Penn 627 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: State leads Michigan all night. What a hateful that is horrible. 628 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: You should be saying Spartans. This is not Spartan, is 629 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: not right now? Four Penn State's got the leader. Oh 630 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, uh Fellas, that is it for their one 631 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: quick note college basketball Florida Florida Gators Kante Johnson who 632 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: collapsed earlier today during the game against Florida State. He's 633 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: now in stable condition at Talent Hassee Memorial Hospital. Did 634 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: you guys know um Penn State Michigan's data combined four 635 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: and nine this season. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, 636 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,959 Speaker 1: it's bad. TJ. At least we can talk about Jamar 637 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: Jefferson right touchdowns far off. Hey, keep it locked. You're 638 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: listening to up on game and we come back. We 639 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 1: will be taking callers. Who's your m v P. Call 640 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: in at eight seven seven, six, three six nine. See 641 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: you on the back end. 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Our imagination, our sense of wonder, and 651 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from 652 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: this and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. 653 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 654 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot org, 655 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 656 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: the AD Council. Adoption of teams from foster care is 657 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: a topic not enough people know about, and we're here 658 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: to change that. I'm April Dinnuity, host of the new 659 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: podcast Navigating Adoption, presented by adopt us Kids. Each episode 660 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: brings you compelling, real life adoption stories told by the 661 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: families that lived them, with commentary from experts. Visit adopt 662 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: us Kids dot org. Slide podcasts are subscribed to. Navigating 663 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: Adoption presented by adopt Us Kids, brought to you by 664 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: the U. S Department of Health and Human Services Administration 665 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: for children and families and the council. Welcome back, We 666 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: are back. We have breaking news from David Gascon. What 667 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: we got Dave, breaking news from Fox Sports. And imagine 668 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: you guys getting ready for opening kickoff about an hour 669 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: hour and a half away, and your game gets canceled. 670 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: That's exactly been calin Washington State. We're supposed to kick off, 671 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: so Cal travels to Pullman guys and with contact tracing, 672 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: they find out one player tested positive for the coronavirus 673 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: and the entire game gets wiped out. That's according to 674 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman and Fox Sports. That is awful. Yeah, I'd 675 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: be I'd be highly upset, especially once you get there 676 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: and you realize you're not gonna play. Wow, be like, man, 677 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: my mama came, well you're here to wash this good man. 678 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: I would be be really upset if I will as 679 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: Plexico Burr is watching his alma mater play LaVar Arrington's 680 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: alma mater touchdowns. Now, this is getting this is getting personal. 681 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean why not? Well, i mean I'm just saying, 682 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: I mean we're winning, so I might as well take 683 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: full advantage of it. Right, the only won two games, 684 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: just like us. Yeah, but we're gonna have a win 685 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: over you, Hey, Tim, Tim in Indiana, we were coming too, 686 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: You were coming to you shortly on who is your MVP? 687 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: My MT right now, And I'm gonna bring in numbers 688 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: and narratives in short at Aaron Rodgers, I think he's 689 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: going to have the numbers to trump everybody else out there. 690 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: Touching my home is gonna be right there in the conversation. 691 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: We know he's actually the front runner right now, but 692 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: he's not the front runner with a story, with a narrative. 693 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: This this trophy m VP is traveling. They love it 694 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: to touch as many hands as possible, get as many 695 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: faces of the franchise and faces of the NFL out 696 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: there as possible. So I think when it comes to 697 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: a comparable argument and you have a tie tugger war, 698 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that Aaron Rodgers, who they thought was done 699 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: and declined, drafted at his position, moved up, got a 700 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round, and he still went out 701 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: there and said middle finger, let me show you'all I'm 702 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: still a piece. Say when they drafted old boy, they say, man, 703 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: I went home and have four fingers at the killer. 704 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well that was that dude. Marcell Tim what 705 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: do you think, man? Marcellis gave us his uh m 706 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: v P. What say you? I've given to um Rogers. 707 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: But that's not what I called for. Okay, I wouldn't 708 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: drunk to the bar because he's I've been listening to 709 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: him in this time slot for weeks now and he 710 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: seems to be a very very intelligent man. And I 711 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Big Ten briefly, Okay, okay, Well, 712 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: let's Indiana play in the Big Ten title game and 713 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: then Ohawo State we're played, irwa that we're boat raced them, 714 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: and then you've got Big Ten going out to the 715 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: UFC and just trump and damn that would be Indiana 716 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: and the festival. Ohio State still would have got their 717 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: final because they're brandy. I mean, I think what you're 718 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: saying makes absolute sense. It just it just it just 719 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: hurts that, you know, COVID has disrupted the approach to 720 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: being able to get to where your destination is this year, 721 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: and quite quite frankly, I mean you you gotta look 722 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and the reason why they're making concessions 723 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: around Ohio State to be able to play in the 724 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship void of some of those games that 725 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: those matchups that you just when you move the needle, 726 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: they changed for you. And that that's the Big ten 727 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: is looking for a representation in the playoff and that's 728 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: the reason for that. So appreciate the call, uh, And 729 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate the compliment. Usually when you get a compliment 730 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: before questions, it's back handy. I thought you were about 731 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: to get me. But let's go back to m v P. 732 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: Justin talk to me from Cincinnati. Who's your m v 733 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: P for the NFL. Well, first of all, I want 734 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: to say this, Uh, your new guy, that he should 735 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: have been a m VP of the Super Bowl. And 736 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: he knows what I'm talking about. It was a great thrill, 737 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: but a better catch, that's right. And it's not even closed. 738 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: He's Jordan. He's doing things said we've never seen Rogers 739 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 1: is Rogers. But you guys are doing a great job 740 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: on the new show. Thank you, thank you so much. 741 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate just who he said, Tarek kill Now he sat 742 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: my home, my homes Okay, so I can, I can, 743 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 1: I can? I can see that. And but marceliss point 744 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: is this Patrick Mahomes has Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, 745 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Migo Hardman, Levian Bell, Clyde and words Hilary. He has 746 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: a lot to work with. Whereas you say Aaron Rodgers, 747 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: you say Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, no one else. So 748 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: I can see it both ways. And that's why these 749 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: last uh four games of the season is gonna be paramount. 750 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna show you who really deserves to win this MVP. 751 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: Al Right, well, I think my m VP right now 752 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: is going to be And if you don't know who 753 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: that is looking up, he's gonna win. He's gonna win 754 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: the MVP award every single time. Now, Seriously, seriously, you 755 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,479 Speaker 1: know my m VP of this year. I'm I could 756 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: be crazy, but why am I thinking Ben Roethlisberger as 757 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: the MVP of the If you don't, are you serious? 758 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: I just figured up. I know I want to get comeack, definitely, 759 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: but but I mean has a better record than did 760 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: you no? Come on the top? Alright, alright, valuable player, 761 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: get right to the romance and find the way to 762 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: wow this Valentine's with one hundred flowers dot com from 763 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: classic roses and bouquets to decadent chocolate covered berries, gourmet 764 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: treats and more. Surprise your Valentine with one h flowers 765 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: dot com right now. 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