WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Lamar Jackson Gets His Money

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>It's our two Come on in, stay awhile, glad to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on board eight seven to seven to three,

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<v Speaker 2>TP show. It was up there with Aaron Rodgers finally

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<v Speaker 2>getting traded to the Jets, with Lamar Jackson and the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens come to terms. And now we have both of

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<v Speaker 2>those stories to completion, and we'll talk to Mike Floria

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<v Speaker 2>from Pro Football talking about fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Who got the better of that deal? Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal for both?

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<v Speaker 2>And Lamar flowers to him, you got a seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good deal, one that you're satisfied with the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like they were going to get a deal

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<v Speaker 2>done and telling you the information that I heard yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>from somebody who is a source there, that they were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty confident they were going to get a deal done.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't like the fact that I brought up that

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners were kicking the tires on maybe trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make a play for Lamar Jackson. They didn't want anything

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<v Speaker 2>to get messed up here. If there was quiet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, when there's silence. It feels like that's when

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<v Speaker 2>things get done. But Lamar Jackson got his deal. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Florio about that deal. And the Aaron Rodgers situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Reportedly is now making one hundred and seven million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Because I thought he was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>paid like just under sixty million. Then he restructured his

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<v Speaker 2>deal and I'm like, gosh, I want to give him

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<v Speaker 2>less this year to make sure he comes back next

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<v Speaker 2>year because there's no guarantee. But we'll talk to Florio.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Jets failed him last night. They may

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<v Speaker 2>have money to spend under the salary cap, but they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need a defensive player. If you don't get an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive linement and he needed one, then go after another

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, a skilled position player, because playing defense is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to win you a Super Bowl. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to outscore people. They do have a good defense already.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they failed him. I thought the Cowboys whift.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they wanted Dalton Kincaid, the tight end from Utah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they settled for an interior lineman from Michigan. They

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<v Speaker 2>got jumped by the Buffalo Bills. You know, strategy is

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<v Speaker 2>really important. We're not sure how these draft picks are

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<v Speaker 2>going to play out yet, And you know, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to assess grades, but we're assessing a grade based off

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<v Speaker 2>of the mock drafts. Oh they got that guy there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he was supposed to be there, or maybe you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, took him higher than you needed to. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Lions strategy, I think it was flawed yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>or last night. But these two players could be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had told you about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a week ago where my source who's scouting

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<v Speaker 2>for AFC teams said, Hey, by the way, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is not Jean Robinson, but he is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great player. He'll be a steal in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamiir Gibbs, the running back from Alabama, Well, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a steal. I don't think at well by the Lions

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<v Speaker 2>because if you look at the players the lowest salaries

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<v Speaker 2>for franchise tag players, it's middle linebacker and it's running back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what the Lions did.

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<v Speaker 2>They took Jack Campbell, a linebacker from Iowa, and I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Iowa play twice and the guy makes plays. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those guys and he had to because the

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<v Speaker 2>offense was so bad. They had two defensive players taken

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<v Speaker 2>in the first round. Green Bay got Lucas van Ness

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<v Speaker 2>and edge rusher from Iowa. But do you need to

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<v Speaker 2>take them where you took them? That was the surprise there.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Lions have running backs. They got Montgomery from

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears. You got Swift, You have running backs. He

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<v Speaker 2>better be special. Yeah, Pauline, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was watching the Dan Campbell, the coach of the Lions

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<v Speaker 3>forum shiver people all over the war.

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<v Speaker 4>Really do you think it's one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cases where Dan Campbell bulldozed the people around him at

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Bielman's an advisor there. He's an old school tough guy.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to run the ball. You can't have too

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<v Speaker 3>many running backs. We need an old school linebacker that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, eighties mentality that blew up your draft strategy

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<v Speaker 3>or or flew in the face.

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<v Speaker 4>Of any other draft strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm watching Dan Campbell fist bump everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he gets excited over everything. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>open up a loaf of bread, he's excited. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eighties style football not winning now. But these these are playmakers.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think you could have gotten them later in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. That's they can turn out to be really

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<v Speaker 2>good players. But it's it's the your strategy here, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles have a strategy and that paid off. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo said we want the guy, go get the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's sometimes you get that luxury pick. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the Jets were waiting for alignment to fall into

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<v Speaker 2>their lap and then all of a sudden, somebody jumps you.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're like, uh, take a wide receiver, take

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<v Speaker 2>a tight end, take a luxury item here for Aaron Rodian. Not, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we took a defensive What do we need a defensive player?

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<v Speaker 2>We have a top five defense right now? But the

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<v Speaker 2>Jets they took Will McDonald from Iowa State, and he

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<v Speaker 2>could be good. But if I'm Aaron Rodgers, it's win now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Super Bowl. Now does he help us? Now we

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<v Speaker 2>got a defense?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we need?

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<v Speaker 2>We have to have somebody who fills that need. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that, you know, you're seeing Broderick Jones where

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers jump up, and I think that was the surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>They jumped up where the Patriots were and they took

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<v Speaker 2>Broderick Jones. And I think that the Jets were attached

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And then the Cowboys I thought for sure

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to go tight end, thought for sure

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<v Speaker 2>they would. They got Mazy Smith, the defensive tackle from Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Michael Parsons liked it, but if you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys in their war room, and it really felt

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<v Speaker 2>like they were shocked, they were surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, so what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and then they sort of stared at

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<v Speaker 2>it's Mossy and now hey, everybody applaud Okay, yeah two yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety cities around America. Seaton Poll question for hour two

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Hour one was a doozy. Okay, who goes first today?

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<v Speaker 6>Will Levis or Hendon Hooker? We've got a fifty two

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<v Speaker 6>to forty eight situation happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and who Who's Who's leading that? Hendon Hooker? Hendon Hooker? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two? How about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 6>Got any ideas where both of those fellows go? Where

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<v Speaker 6>they land?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Minnesota is getting one of the two.

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<v Speaker 2>You do, Yeah, but I don't have any I came

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<v Speaker 2>into this mock draft. I assume Bryce Young was going one,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all I figured. After that, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. And then you start to look and

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<v Speaker 2>you go, okay, this team needs this. Did you get now?

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<v Speaker 2>You can always get those players in the second or

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<v Speaker 2>third round. But when you're on the board, they're on

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<v Speaker 2>the board and you have your opportunity. I always feel

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<v Speaker 2>like in the first round, if you want them, go

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<v Speaker 2>get them. Want them, get them, don't sit there and go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Maybe we can wait for him. Falcons said,

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<v Speaker 2>we want me Jean Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go get him. Did they go higher than

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<v Speaker 1>most people thought?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably so did the Lions do that, Yes, but they

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<v Speaker 2>got who they wanted. It's tougher when you go, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, they got him, like the Cowboys today. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way you can tell me that they're going, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we got him. But the Buffalo Bills are going, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we got him. They wanted a tight end, they got

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<v Speaker 2>a tight end. They already have a tight end. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's the luxury item. If you want it, go get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Poling, if you take the guy you want too high,

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<v Speaker 3>you get critiqued the day of the draft, but three

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<v Speaker 3>years later it could be the right pick. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the twenty nineteen draft. The New York

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<v Speaker 3>Giants had two first round draft picks. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>had six and twenty six or something like that. They

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<v Speaker 3>took Daniel Jones in the sixth spot out of Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>They got crushed for taking him way too high. They

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<v Speaker 3>said they could have got him with the other draft

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<v Speaker 3>pick nobody wanted. They could have taken Dwayne Haskins. They

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<v Speaker 3>could have taken Drew Locke. I could find you twenty

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<v Speaker 3>articles that critique it. Daniel Jones is working out for

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<v Speaker 3>that team.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they took the right quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>They just went up too high in my opinion to

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<v Speaker 2>take him there, because you know, Daniel Snyder said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that, but he was taking Dwayne Haskins and they

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<v Speaker 2>had a higher grade on him. I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you got somebody who's going to have that thought process,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have traded down and I think still got

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones there.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes though, you'll be criticized because maybe you went up

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<v Speaker 2>too quickly, too high.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he gave up too much to move up.

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<v Speaker 2>Because keep that in mind with the Texans, they gave

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot for an edge rusher out of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina gave up a lot to move up to get

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young. Those are the things that crush you. They better,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have to be franchise players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paul, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Got a little bit of news.

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<v Speaker 3>Ish Ian rapport and others are reporting that the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>who have the number one pick, their trade the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>Our fielding offers for trades that they rapport and others

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<v Speaker 3>say that's the best draft pick to have because you've

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<v Speaker 3>got twenty hours to deal it. Which team And he

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<v Speaker 3>says that that team would is probably trading up.

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<v Speaker 4>To get a quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I said that. Start the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we guess it?

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers have the first pick second round? And you know

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's going to go up and get that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like you have to look at Will Levis

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<v Speaker 2>or Hendon Hooker and say it is he worth going

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<v Speaker 2>up to get him? And who's going to feel that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Do the Vikings feel that way? Is there's somebody? Is

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<v Speaker 2>there an outlier there? With the Rams move up? How

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<v Speaker 2>many teams need quarterbacks? And how many teams want to

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<v Speaker 2>go after the quarterback this year when we know three

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<v Speaker 2>years or next year there'll be three quarterbacks that'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>be taken in the top ten and maybe top five?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Washington you know you got Sam Howell? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to How much is it going to

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<v Speaker 2>cost to get up there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he worth it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Pull?

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<v Speaker 3>The Rams have the fifth pick of round two, so

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<v Speaker 3>they are only a couple spots away from the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 3>How about the Tennessee Titans. There's rumors that they're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at Will Levis in the first round. They have the

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<v Speaker 3>tenth pick, the forty first pick of this second round.

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<v Speaker 1>Noah, but you already have Malik Willis there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but now you could replace him for one fourth

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<v Speaker 3>the price.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I wont another guy? Unless you're trading Tannehill, then

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. It's not like I want to bring in

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<v Speaker 2>another one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 7>There.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the the all new Will Levis game to play.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what the rules are with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam as before Dan, it's we're gonna go around the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Quickly, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Who ends up drafting and keeping Will Levis?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right, Todd.

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<v Speaker 8>With the tenth pick in round two, Levis goes to

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<v Speaker 8>the Tennessee Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, See, no, Connor, can.

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<v Speaker 6>I say two two teams? I'm going to say two

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<v Speaker 6>teams anyway? I'm going to say it's either the Raiders

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<v Speaker 6>or the Lions, or the Lion or the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Sneaky because this last year contract for Jared Goff and.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been making some crazy picks, so it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why not?

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<v Speaker 2>And Will Levis in those lines uniform piercing blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he had a first round draft pick

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<v Speaker 2>sitting next to him. I will say that she was

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<v Speaker 2>a lottery pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually had a couple sitting next to and his sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Sisters are I mean, don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk out of school here, but I'm just saying, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he had nice comp there.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, Marv, Le'll go with the Raiders also, okay, Paulie

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<v Speaker 9>mav I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Go Washington Commanders. They got traded up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but they'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll go I'll go Rams. Uh what about

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<v Speaker 1>Hendon Hooker.

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<v Speaker 7>That's where he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Hendon Hooker's going to the Rams at the fifth spot.

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<v Speaker 6>I have the rams too for Hendon Hooker. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 7>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, nobody can call you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the great outs in our business. All

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is say, you know I'm hearing that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm hearing. You know I got a source. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who's your source? I can't tell you, Marv.

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<v Speaker 9>I got the Seahawks, all right, Paulie oh Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>going Vikings, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Go Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Based off nothing, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much our show. It's based off Saturday podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is starting, based off nothing, based off oh.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way way podcast yesterday, Dan Patrick takes a

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<v Speaker 2>gamble and uh, we have Bad Larry, we have Shan Irving,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Dylan the graphics guy, and they were making

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<v Speaker 2>some picks, not only on the draft, also golf this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the uh Azer by Johnny Grumbri. They were

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<v Speaker 2>betting on that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you coming to the party of the Ozerbaijanny Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Prix partyuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a viewing party.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a portion of the podcast yesterday where I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>with bad Larry the time that we played basketball against

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<v Speaker 2>one another. By the way, I have played basketball against

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Larry and I walked off like Larry Bird at

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<v Speaker 2>the three point shoot at the.

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<v Speaker 10>After that week Falcoll.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago, he's forging this, I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we played, started to compete. I went to the hoop.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Larry fouled me, and he said it was a

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<v Speaker 2>cheap foul.

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<v Speaker 7>He called foul.

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<v Speaker 10>So then, of course, you know, I was just getting

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<v Speaker 10>a no home I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like him go into his next show, would

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<v Speaker 1>like him to. So I let him shoot. You let

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<v Speaker 1>me shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, you must have let me shoot a load because

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<v Speaker 2>I've made them all. Yeah, I got so. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so angry that I'm playing. It's one on one on

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<v Speaker 2>one and one guy played college ball at Providence and

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't make a shot, and I got so mad,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, all right, I'm just gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was playing against.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Larry, and bad Larry was decent basketball player. Might

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<v Speaker 2>be better at that than picking games. All right, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. We'll get some more phone calls coming on,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Florio is going to join us. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the nuts and bolts. Where does he think? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Levis is going to go lamar Jackson's contract, a few

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<v Speaker 2>things to talk to him about. And in the final

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<v Speaker 2>hour this show, the draft expert from the mother Ship,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Miller, will stop by as well. Got basketball coming

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<v Speaker 2>up tonight, King's Warriors, Grizzlies and the Lakers. The Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>closed out the Hawks last night. We'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>the DraftKings lines, NFL Draft player props, over under passing

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns Bryce Young year one Todd, I'll start with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Seat O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 11>Twenty one, Hey Marv nineteen and a half, Pauli seventeen

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<v Speaker 11>and a half, twenty six and a half, twenty six

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<v Speaker 11>and a half no pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>How about cjstround passing touchdownuns over under Todd twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, Seat O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen and a half, Mark.

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty two and a half, Paulie.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one, twenty three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Over under over under rushing yards Bijon Robinson, seat O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine to seventy five Mark.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh, twelve hundred all right, Paulie one thy sixty god

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<v Speaker 12>eleven o seven eleven hundred and a half yards just

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<v Speaker 12>over Toddler, Yeah, sorry, he went over.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring in Mike Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live,

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<v Speaker 2>co host, NBC Football Night America, contributor and the show

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<v Speaker 2>The Preseas Hours on Peacock. Let's start with Lamar Jackson here.

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<v Speaker 2>How did we get to this point? And we always

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<v Speaker 2>love to say what's the true value of the contract

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<v Speaker 2>and who won and who lost?

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<v Speaker 5>Here, Well, we don't know the true value yet because

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<v Speaker 5>we haven't seen the full numbers. We have limited information

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<v Speaker 5>so far. But it's a five year, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>sixty million dollar contract from signing. Usually it's an extension

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<v Speaker 5>and we ignore the fact that there's old money involved.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me give you a great example, good comparison, Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 5>He actually has a six year, two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 5>nine million dollar contract when it's signed and when it's applied,

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<v Speaker 5>Lamar five years two to sixty. Lamar makes more over

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<v Speaker 5>five years than Jalen Hurts makes over six years, because

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<v Speaker 5>Jalen Hurts had that one year left that gets attached

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<v Speaker 5>to the five year extension making it a six year contract.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's little things like that that need to be explained.

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<v Speaker 5>It's easier though, once we get the full numbers, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get the full numbers Dan, full guarantee it's signing,

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<v Speaker 5>and also how much of the injury guarantee becomes fully

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<v Speaker 5>guaranteed after the first year because they're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>cut him after one year. How much flips what's that

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<v Speaker 5>total number that helps us understand how good of a

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<v Speaker 5>deal it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Any chance the Ravens regret this or will I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they regret it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they regret the fact that they couldn't have

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<v Speaker 5>gotten it done sooner. I think it should have been

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<v Speaker 5>done last August. Look, we reported in the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 5>the Jalen Hurt steal, and I think the Jalen Hurt

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<v Speaker 5>steal Dan was a very valuable piece of this. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it snapped Lamar Jackson out of his Deshaun Watson

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<v Speaker 5>fever dream. It finally got him to realize, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>getting five years fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and forty two hundred and fifty million. It's not happening.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the aberration. It's the outlier. I have to do

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<v Speaker 5>a traditional deal like Jalen Hurts, and that's what he did. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I think he should have done it last August. Last August,

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<v Speaker 5>he would have gotten one hundred and thirty three million

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<v Speaker 5>fully guaranteed. Its signing last August, he would have signed

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<v Speaker 5>a deal that would have flipped another thirty five million

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<v Speaker 5>to fully guaranteed in March of this year for one

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<v Speaker 5>sixty eight that would have been fully guaranteed. As a

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<v Speaker 5>practical matter, he should have done it in August. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be very interested to compare the key

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<v Speaker 5>factors from this deal to what I know about the

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<v Speaker 5>deal he rejected in August. But he finally woke up

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<v Speaker 5>and realized this is the key. Because people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>he won, or he didn't need an agent after all,

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. He needed someone to wake him up, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it was Odell Beckham Junior, whether it was Jalen Hurt's contract.

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<v Speaker 5>Something woke him up to get him to realize, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not going to get what I want. I better just

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<v Speaker 5>take what I can get.

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<v Speaker 1>What's Aaron Rodgers getting paid this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Sixty million?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did I see one hundred and seven million.

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<v Speaker 5>There's all sorts of different numbers that flow around. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>his cash flow is one hundred They did something with

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<v Speaker 5>his contract, yeah, and I don't I haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 5>actual document yet, so I'm not ready to accept at

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<v Speaker 5>someone else's characterization of its accurate. There was something about

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<v Speaker 5>his salary next year being one hundred and seven million,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's including the sixty million he's due to make

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<v Speaker 5>this year. But he's still going to make sixty million

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<v Speaker 5>this year. He's not playing for a million bucks this

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<v Speaker 5>year in New York. They did something in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 5>so they could trade the contract in a way that

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<v Speaker 5>reduced the cap hit. But the Jets aren't paying him

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<v Speaker 5>any less this year than what he was supposed to make.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't take a pay cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Paying him one hundred and seven million dollars this year.

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<v Speaker 5>No sixty million because what he was doing to make

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<v Speaker 5>this year, And I've heard nothing to suggest he's taken

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<v Speaker 5>a penny less than sixty million. But that's still pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good for a guy who's pushing forty sixty million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in cash flow this year under the contract he signed

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<v Speaker 5>last year with the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to front load this because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to enticing to play next year and there's no guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did you make of what happened with the

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<v Speaker 2>Jets in the draft with a team that needed offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line and they ended up getting somebody for the defense.

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<v Speaker 5>Hidden cost of that final Aaron Rodgers trade. Look, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Jets got fleeced here when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at everything they gave up. They were desperate to get

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<v Speaker 5>this guy the pick next year, the second round of

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 5>the comes a first rounder. All it takes is Aaron

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<v Speaker 5>Rodgers playing just over eleven games this year and the

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<v Speaker 5>second round becomes a first rounder. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>make the playoffs for it to become a first rounder.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have to win a playoff game. They don't

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 5>have to win a single regular season game. That could

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<v Speaker 5>be a top five pick. Let's say he gets injured

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 5>and misses five games and they struggle, they got a

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 5>tough schedule, they fail to make the playoffs, they're in

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 5>the top ten. Hackers get that pick if he plays

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 5>sixty five percent of the snaps and then the kicker

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 5>was the flip flop thirteen to fifteen, you fall to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>What happens Steelers cut the line, they take the tackle

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<v Speaker 5>that you may have wanted, and you have to go

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 5>either side of the line. That's the hidden cost of

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.640
<v Speaker 5>this deal. But they were desperate to get it done.

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<v Speaker 5>My theory is Woody Johnson, the owner of the Jets,

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<v Speaker 5>said to somebody on Monday, get this bleepity bleep thing done. Today.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sick of this hanging over our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching the body language of the Cowboys in the

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<v Speaker 2>war room, and I think they got surprised by the

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo Bills. What do you make of what the Cowboys

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 2>did that they You know, you have to you're on camera.

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:06.199
<v Speaker 2>You got to be excited for the cameras. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think the Cowboys got the player that they truly wanted?

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<v Speaker 5>Mike, Well, look, they're never going to admit it. They're

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 5>always going to say they got the guy they would

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<v Speaker 5>have taken even if we had the first overall pick

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<v Speaker 5>in the draft. But that moved by the Bills. Sims

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 5>and I were talking about this earlier today. You know,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 5>the Bills need playmakers on offense. All they have is

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Tefan Digs, especially a receiver, and Dawson Knox. Look, he's

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 5>no slous, but they need they need a receiver. You

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 5>get through nineteen picks and not avery single receiver he's taken.

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 5>This is great for the Bells and then receiver receiver, receiver, receiver,

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 5>And you know the Cowboys are lurking for a potential

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 5>tight end. And I thought the Bills were going to

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 5>move up even higher than they did, but I think

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 5>they got desperate to get that guy. And now they

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 5>have Dawson Knox and Dalton Kinkaid. How's that going to

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 5>work out? I don't know, but they need pass catchers

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 5>for Josh Allen.

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 2>He's Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk Live. Let's play

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the Will Levis game. Who takes him?

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 5>Well? You know you got teams out there that were

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 5>potentially looking at quarterback that didn't take one in round one?

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 5>What happens in round two? Does Tennessee try to move up?

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 5>Do the Steelers dangle that pick all day long to

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 5>whoever wants will love us? Somebody explained to me. I

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 5>haven't written this yet, but somebody explained to me this morning.

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 5>What can happen when a slide begins? There are so

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 5>many insecure teams about their own evaluation that when a

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 5>guy starts to slide, they doubt their evaluation and they worry,

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 5>what are others going to say? What's the owner going

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 5>to say? What if he doesn't work out? You have

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 5>your evaluation And the person I talk to today thinks

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 5>twenty to twenty five teams had a first round grade

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 5>on Will Levis, but once he starts to go, people

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 5>get wobbly about what they really think and that slide

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 5>gets fueled. So that raises the possibility one of these

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 5>teams out there, Dan, that is thinking we need a quarterback.

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 5>We didn't get one last night. Let's see if we

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 5>can trade up and get in position to get Will Levis.

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 5>And it's good for Levis. From this standpoint four year contract,

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>not five years. It's better to go high round two

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 5>than low round one because you don't have to worry

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 5>about the fifth year option. Like Dak Prescott, even though

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 5>he went far later than round one, he was able

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 5>to put the Cowboys in the corner pretty quickly.

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that made him feel good last

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 2>night at eleven o'clock as he's trying to slink out

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>of the green room.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 5>Dan, somebody did not properly set his expectations. That's the

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 5>most important thing. The agent can do. You got to

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 5>prepare your client for your worst case scenario. Where is

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<v Speaker 5>your floor? I told him his floor is all the

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<v Speaker 5>way out around one.

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to play this from his pro day, Marvin

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 2>play Will Levis.

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<v Speaker 5>If I get invited in, like, if I know like

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 5>I'll be pretty high pick.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll definitely go. I'm looking forward to going, but I

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 7>don't want to go if like I could be like

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 7>a second round pick. You know you don't want to

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 7>do that. Don't want to have the camera just sign

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 7>you all that?

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, exactly exactly.

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 5>We have a new agent, hey Gino Smith. Remember when

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 5>he fell out around one? Yeah, he didn't come back

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 5>at first on day two, and then he gets the picked.

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 5>He changed agents not long after that. Somebody failed to

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 5>prepare him for what was gonna happen, or he wouldn't

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 5>have gone.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Why go?

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 5>Why put yourself through that if you think there's a

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 5>chance you're going to slide all the way out around one?

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Does he go today?

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 5>I think he goes today. I don't think it's going

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 5>to continue.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I think no. Does he show up today?

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Good question, good question. I wouldn't I know. I

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have gone unless I'm damn sure I'm one of

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 5>the top five guys. I wouldn't have even gone, So

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 5>I think that's going to be a real tough one

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 5>to get him to go back.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>But hasn't the commissioner said before, Didn't they say, hey,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 2>stop putting a camera on some of these guys who

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>start falling.

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>It's good TV.

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>But you know, at some point you're like, come on,

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I cut the kid a break, Dan.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 5>It's on my list of things to track down. I

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.479
<v Speaker 5>feel like at some point over the past fifteen years

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 5>I wrote a story about that. Now I just have

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 5>to go find it. You know, it moves pretty quickly

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 5>in these parts, but I'm pretty sure my adult brain

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 5>vaguely recalls something like that where they wanted to make

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 5>it less taxing on the player, more humane, more positive,

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 5>less negative. They don't want that dramatic moment where we're

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 5>all enjoying in a weird sort of way, this stress

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 5>and strain. So we saw a few shots last night,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 5>and it was clear that will Levis was not prepared

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 5>for what ultimately happened.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Where does Hendon Hooker go.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, he's a prime candidate for the Titans,

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 5>because you don't need him this year. Torn Acl not

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 5>going to be ready this year. Don't rush him into

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 5>the fray this year. There's a thought maybe Hooker actually

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 5>goes higher than Levis if people are really freaked out.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>The Malik Willis era over before it even started in Tennessee.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 5>I think the moment they benched him for Josh Dobbs

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 5>last year is when it ended. I mean, think about it.

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 5>They're in the playoff push and I remember that Thursday

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 5>night game was approaching against the Cowboys, and it's like

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 5>they're what they're starting Josh Dobbs instead of Malik Willis.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 7>What are they doing?

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 5>They're saving Malik Willis for the playoffs. He just assume

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 5>they're making the postseason. It makes no sense to me.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 5>But think about the disconnect that apparently was there between

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 5>John Robinson, the former GM and Mike Rabel, the head coach.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 5>Remember last year the scene when they trade aj Brown

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 5>and Rabel looks like he's ready to throw someone through

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 5>a wall. That may have been a pick where Robinson

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 5>thinks Malik Willis is the guy and Rabel was never

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 5>really sold on it. And so now we move on

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>from Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 1>The best pick Last Night was made by who.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 5>I really was fascinated by, Jean Robinson, and I think

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 5>the Falcons went from fringe team of relevance to real

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 5>contender in one fell swoop.

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 2>They do love to run the ball, Mike, you know,

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>over fifty percent. They're one of three teams that they

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>run the ball more than they pass.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 5>They were seven to ten each of the last two years,

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 5>and it doesn't seem that they were that good. They're

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 5>in a wide open division in a conference where all

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 5>the great talent keeps leaving for the AFC. Yes, the

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 5>Eagles are really good. Yes the forty nine ers are

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 5>really good. But when you look at the skill position

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 5>players they have now Kyle Pitts and Drake London and

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 5>Tyler al Jeer who still has a role in that team.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 5>And I forgot about Cordero Patterson. People are like, oh, well,

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 5>Desmond Ritter, he's not a good quarterback. Well, I could

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 5>be a good quarterback with that many great players around.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>God forbid, all you got to do is hand the

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 5>football off and off they go. So Arthur Smith a

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 5>great offensive mind. I think now with Jon Robinson, the

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 5>Falcons are the team I'd pick to win that.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>And aljier Ran for Yeah, I know, and they got

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>him out of nowhere. Is Joe Burrow's contract bigger than

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jacksons? Yes, Is justin Herbert's bigger than Lamar Jackson's.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 5>Yes, maybe by a little bit. If I'm Herbert, I

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 5>want to see what Burrow gets, and then I want

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 5>to try to come in between Burrow and Lamar Jackson.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you don't. If you're Herbert, you don't go now.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 5>No, I want to see what Burrow gets. If I'm Herbert, Okay,

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 5>I think Burrow is the one guy who may come

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 5>out of this day and with like a ten year

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 5>contract and his compensation is tied to a percentage of

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 5>the salary cap. Players have tried to get that. Teams

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 5>have said no. I think Mike Brown, the owner of

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 5>the Bengals, is enough of a renegade to tell the

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 5>league I don't care. This makes sense for us. We're

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 5>going to give Joe Burrow a set percentage so as

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 5>the cap goes up, his pay goes up. The contract

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 5>is never obsolete. Look at the Patrick Mahomes deal in

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 5>light of all these other contracts. No, Patter Mahlmes getting

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 5>robbed right now? And the Chiefs are lucky that he's

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 5>he's wired in a way that he's not kicking in

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 5>someone's door saying take care of my contract. But they

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 5>need to take care of his contract. I think the

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 5>Bengals avoid that if they give Joe Burrow a percentage

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 5>of the cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good weekend, Mike, thanks for joining us. Thanks

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Nancy Pout, Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live. Yeah, we

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>said it at the time with Mahomes, that is a

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>team friendly deal, and it didn't take long for that

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a really, really team friendly deal. Andrew in

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Washington is back. Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Dan, and then it's Happy Meet Friday. Well,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 10>our Carolina Panthers got the draft pick they wanted. I'm

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 10>really excited. I hope that Frank Reich uses a little

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 10>different offensive scheme to get the most out of Bryce

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 10>Young and we could move forward in this new era.

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 10>Will Levis, I don't know if it was just all

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<v Speaker 10>the mock drafts that made us feel like he was

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 10>a first round draft pick. But like you said, Dan,

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 10>I didn't see anything, and I watched a few games

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 10>last year. I do have a stat of the day

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<v Speaker 10>but real quick, Paulie, if you could give me a

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 10>couple of types of pie to put to my face.

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 10>I still owe you Draft Day pies, which I'll have

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 10>to do this weekend when I'm off work. But I

0:32:52.320 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 10>do have a stat of the day if you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 10>In all five of their postseason games together, Kevin Durant

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 10>and Devin Booker have each scored at least twenty five points.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 10>That makes the longest streak to start a postseason, also

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 10>done by Shaq and Kobe for a pair of teammates

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 10>in NBA history. Go Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think do you Todd is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I like it?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened before? Or was there a six? It was

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<v Speaker 2>just Mambo number five? Yeah, Pum.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this irrational concern about irrational rational concern about

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<v Speaker 3>one hit wonders like guy's names Lou Baker, Right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he made this song. I'm guessing like fifteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know that he had a follow up hit.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess is no, like, did he save it? Did

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<v Speaker 3>he did he make like three million dollars in six

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<v Speaker 3>months and then that just ends up?

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<v Speaker 2>Or or did he think he was going to have

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<v Speaker 2>another big hit right Mambo number six?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till you get the extended version.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I saw about three months ago I saw

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<v Speaker 3>like a commercial for something and this song was in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Does he make like fifty grand off?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he make ten grand off?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fascinated by this? What do you got? Seaton knows

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<v Speaker 4>more about this stuff to me?

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<v Speaker 3>But these guys I think make They're set once and

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<v Speaker 3>they're set forever.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the song though? That You can't see it commercial?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't see that product without thinking that song. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought Bob Seger like a rock you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was what Chevy trucks that was? That one was

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<v Speaker 2>a big one attached to it. Is there another one

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<v Speaker 2>that you think of when you hear that song?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I hear Sam Cook and he has don't know

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<v Speaker 2>much about his and I always think of Animal House?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't get the credit it deserved because it was really

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<v Speaker 2>more about the movie in Belushi going through the food

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<v Speaker 2>line there ton.

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<v Speaker 7>Wasn't there a song?

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<v Speaker 8>My baby is a very fine baby song that it

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<v Speaker 8>became my beer is a very fine beer matte back

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<v Speaker 8>in the day.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe not the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Example, but that wasn't but it allowed you to sing it,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what you wanted in the first place.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, mart I have answer. I do not have an answer

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<v Speaker 7>for that question at all. Oh, but my question for

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<v Speaker 7>you is when are we doing that reality show? Like

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<v Speaker 7>what's what's montel Jordan's life? Like? Like does he go

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<v Speaker 7>on toward do this is how we do it? But

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<v Speaker 7>picks up?

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<v Speaker 1>Do people care about that?

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're a one hit wonder, at what point

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<v Speaker 3>in the set do you play your song? Let's say so,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say lou Bega is doing a show and he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing fifty minutes and he's got eleven songs.

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<v Speaker 4>He has to do it, he has to do an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I don't know if he could

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<v Speaker 1>do a concert.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, see see, I think lou Bega is in a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of a different spot because the rest you're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna dance the whole time that you're at his concert,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's really.

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<v Speaker 1>What people are interested in, right.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you're there and you're waiting for Mumble number

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<v Speaker 6>five and you're like, oh yeah, this one. If they

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<v Speaker 6>were like a rock band. Okay, give me an example,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh like the verve pipe and that song the Freshman, right, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Were really we were only freshman. That's like they're one

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<v Speaker 1>big song.

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<v Speaker 6>They have a whole concert, and then you're kind of

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<v Speaker 6>waiting for that one song. That's a pretty depressing song.

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<v Speaker 6>That's tough. There's not a lot of dancing there. There's

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<v Speaker 6>not a lot of like whatever, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But like Dexy's Midnight Runners, Yeah, they got come

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<v Speaker 2>on Eileen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when do they play that?

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<v Speaker 4>You don't open?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you gonna wait until you close? You gotta hold

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<v Speaker 6>that for an encore? Good grease, I think you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But can you how many songs constitute a concert here?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know if some of these these artists

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<v Speaker 2>have enough songs?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah more, my wife went to a concert like this.

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<v Speaker 7>I love the nineties concert where they have all these

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<v Speaker 7>acts where they had like Color Me Bad and All

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<v Speaker 7>for One and.

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<v Speaker 1>How many songs do they get to perform?

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<v Speaker 5>All? Right?

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<v Speaker 7>So All for One had maybe about three hits, and

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<v Speaker 7>so they did maybe like five. Young MC did like

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<v Speaker 7>his minor hit and then he did bust the move

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<v Speaker 7>and that was it. And then Montell Jordan also came

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<v Speaker 7>on and he did He's got mine like R and

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<v Speaker 7>B hits, but this is how we do it. It's

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<v Speaker 7>the big pop hit. Yeah. So he did maybe about

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<v Speaker 7>twenty minutes twenty Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I would have had the under on that, not.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he was. It was the extended version of

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<v Speaker 7>this is how.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes Todd.

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<v Speaker 8>I would think the Natives would get restless after a while.

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<v Speaker 8>You're sitting there and they're like, here's another one from

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<v Speaker 8>our new album.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, well the one we were like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing you don't want to hear when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to see an older band or artists when they go,

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<v Speaker 2>here's something that we just put out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, uh, that's not what I came here for.

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<v Speaker 1>Private Ezze shut up.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah that was as you know, I've seen Bare Naked

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<v Speaker 6>Ladies no fewer than one hundred and fifty times.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were at this one period in.

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<v Speaker 6>Their u like this one point in their career where

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<v Speaker 6>they really didn't want to be known for like quirky

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 6>fun songs and they were making serious not that those

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 6>songs weren't serious, but there was I think trying to

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 6>tackle more serious subject matter or something not be known

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 6>as so quirky, you know, and they would throw these

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 6>songs into their set and the place would just die,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 6>like there was just no energy whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, the something then my apartment

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>But if you know this, like imagine you're on stage

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<v Speaker 2>and you start to sing a song and then you

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<v Speaker 2>everybody getting up to go, you know, go to the

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 2>bathroom or getting something to drink, right, I mean it

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 2>has to affect you because you I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, you put your heart and soul in that that song.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, hey, we're gonna play that next, and you

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<v Speaker 2>play it and all of a sudden, you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>A great example of that is John Mayer right now.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got all these like poppy acoustic rock hits right

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<v Speaker 6>that everybody knows, but he really wants to just be

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 6>a blues Yes he are, yes, And so he's up

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<v Speaker 6>there just wailing on the blues for twenty minutes and

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<v Speaker 6>people are like.

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<v Speaker 1>Bust through the double doors. Your body's a wonderlayer.

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<v Speaker 6>Georgia's and he's just screaming on the guitar. He's a

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.959
<v Speaker 6>phenomenal guitar player. You're like, man, this dude, he really

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 6>just wants to play the blues. But he's like, Okay,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 6>let me get the acoustic out of I mean.

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me get it out of all way.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no one came here to see your Buddy Guy tribute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you got famous. Now play the songs that

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>we help make you famous. Not Hey, I'm tired of

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 2>playing these. I'm gonna be known as you know, the

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>next BB Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And what if you bring your girlfriend? You're not a

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 7>John Mayer fan, but she is. You're like, all right,

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 7>I like a couple of his songs. Oh my goodness,

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 7>this is what I paid one hundred and fifty dollars

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 7>a pop for. Should break up with you right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Boom man one hit wonder Girlfriend?

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's who's who? And what's what? Right?

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 4>What's everybody there?

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 3>A concert that was just awful, just purely like either

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 3>bulls acts were off or they put on a bad show.

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 4>O man, that was awful.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you don't see I don't know, no one

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 3>sees bands they don't like unless you go with someone

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>else or.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'd go to a show where

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that it had the potential to be bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen some bands sometimes like where you see them

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 6>in a smaller club and they're great, and then you

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 6>see them outside at a big festival and it's like,

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 6>that's not really great, that's not really fun.

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Todd, what about telling about surpassed expectations.

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<v Speaker 8>You were pumped and it was even better than you

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 8>could have even imagined it would be. Like when I

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 8>saw Billy Joel and Elton john and two piano's rising

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 8>from the stage and they're playing each other's songs and

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 8>they're facing each other.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Wow, this is just yeah.

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>You have two of the great entertainers of It was

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really good.

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 8>But I was like, even that much more wonderful than

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 8>I envisioned it would be.

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know Jack Johnson, the surfer singer guy. My

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 3>wife is a big fan. I casually knew his work

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 3>and I saw him in like the Bronx at this

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 3>small place. And what he did was he played for

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 3>two hours, and every song he added another instrument, and

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 3>he started out with just himself and then by the

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 3>end of the song there was like fifteen people on stage.

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>By the end of the two hours, and it was

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 3>jamming and it built really well.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 6>See, I was never a fan of his music, but

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 6>Marilyn Manson put on one of the best concerts I've

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 6>ever seen in my entire life.

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Was phenomenal.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But it's more theatricals the music itself. But the music

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>works so well with the theatrics.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was super impressive.

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Two hours in the books on this meet Friday. One

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>more to go back after this