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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on esp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's you're alive on a game weekend isship

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is

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Speaker 1: the great z. Here we go, Buddy. We spend all

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Speaker 1: of these weeks, we go all of these shows, breaking

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Speaker 1: down all of this stuff around the game, and now

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Speaker 1: finally we have a game and it kind of feels

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Speaker 1: like it could be a dandy. So it's got all

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Speaker 1: of the things that you want hitting into an opener

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Speaker 1: but have been found. I did take him, give back,

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Speaker 1: give a rolling. His eyes, of course, is yeah, that's right, right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. You know what I'm I'm pumped. We're two

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Speaker 1: days away from the kickoff of the NFL season. You

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Speaker 1: had a draft last night. I had a draft last night.

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Speaker 1: It's all starting to feel, in the words of the

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Speaker 1: great Jim Dunman, it's all starting to feel very real

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Speaker 1: that this season is coming. And uh for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: it begins obviously, September the eleventh, Charlotte, North Carolina in

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Speaker 1: a game that if you were to say, all right,

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Speaker 1: disagree anymore. Given the stat the fact that it is Baker,

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Speaker 1: got to find a way to win. This is a

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Speaker 1: monster one in my opinion. This is a big, big

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Speaker 1: and talk speculation, what's this seem gonna look like? With

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Speaker 1: think it's an important one to have the overreaction being Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna be just fine. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a it's we said before we started the show,

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Speaker 1: and this is the biggest opener since I've been here.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how you know, you predate me

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Speaker 1: important one for me, it's not a conference game, it's

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Speaker 1: not a division game, it's not any of those things. UM,

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Speaker 1: UM and the idea that there has to be when

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Speaker 1: And this, rest assured, is one that needs to be

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Speaker 1: a dub. So there's real pressure to this one, let

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Speaker 1: alone the Baker stuff. This is one where you looked

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Speaker 1: And so there is a great deal of importance on

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Speaker 1: this game on Sunday, and I think it adds some

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Speaker 1: It is very real. And why even though the Browns

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Speaker 1: But that their defensive line, and again this was Tobaccos,

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Speaker 1: career games, sixty three starts. He's got yards and twelve touchdowns. Um,

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Speaker 1: it all? Harrison Brian Improving is a blocker but more

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Speaker 1: When will we get coach again? Is he tomorrow? Availability

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Speaker 1: on him today? Tomorrow? Yeah, like it is one tomorrow

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Speaker 1: that's one that I would not have had either. As

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Speaker 1: your weekend? Was it rainy? I mean it's just brutal here,

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Speaker 1: your coaches. I mean, we had no shortage of of

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Speaker 1: individual time with our coaches. Just the ability to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it goes a long way in terms of

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Speaker 1: just getting into your teammates, getting in a a your coaches.

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Speaker 1: I think it's also we talked about this off the top.

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Speaker 1: I think it's as much pressure there is for the opener.

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Speaker 1: I also think you can have about as many questions

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Speaker 1: as you want about this one. I really I have

435
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Speaker 1: it in my head the way I think we'll approach

436
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Speaker 1: it offensively, and what I think it will look like,

437
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Speaker 1: because I think it'll be similar to what we've seen,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Baker over the in the Kevin Stefanski years.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that's probably simply what will be asked.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the case Keenom game on Thursday Football

441
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Speaker 1: from last year that potentially that's what it could be.

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Speaker 1: We've also had Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and Bubble

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Speaker 1: Rap for much of camp, you know, so like those

444
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Speaker 1: guys are going to be unfurled as as you get

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Speaker 1: into this game on Sunday. But I think the one

446
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Speaker 1: thing for out there, and I tell this, I'm sure

447
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Speaker 1: you know you talk about all the time to people,

448
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Speaker 1: what do you see? What do you see? The thing

449
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Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to is our defense is

450
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Speaker 1: ought to be terrifying, and Miles looks freaking natur ish,

451
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Speaker 1: even by his own standards. He looks ready to dominate.

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Speaker 1: And I think this defense is gonna have to be dominant.

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Speaker 1: I think Miles is going to have to have a

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Speaker 1: special season to help us navigate these first eleven games.

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Speaker 1: It's just the reality of the situation in terms of

456
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Speaker 1: what the Browns are dealing with, and so it's good

457
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Speaker 1: that it looks that way. You get your first opportunity.

458
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Speaker 1: He gets a team that's got some good talent at

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Speaker 1: the skill positions. D J. Moore they just signed him

460
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Speaker 1: to a big three year extension. They've got Christian McCaffrey,

461
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Speaker 1: who you know, is the last guy in the NFL

462
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Speaker 1: to have a thousand rushing in a thousand receiving in

463
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Speaker 1: the same season, which he did a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: They've got talent. Robby Anderson can run right by a

465
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Speaker 1: Terroris Marshall Jr. Was very productive down at L s U.

466
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Speaker 1: He's a big guy and now he's, you know, somebody

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Speaker 1: that they're hoping can take a bigger step. He's got

468
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Speaker 1: Hollywood Higgins, who he knows very well from his time here.

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Speaker 1: This is a it's a good test. It's a line

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Speaker 1: that we should be able to. We need we need

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Speaker 1: to control the line script and we should be able

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Speaker 1: to um. And that's gonna be key. And Yeah, Miles Clowney,

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Speaker 1: those guys together are as good a duo as there

474
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Speaker 1: is in the NFL. And and they're going to be

475
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Speaker 1: asked to get the pressure that allows our playmakers on

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Speaker 1: the back end to go out and make plays. We

477
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Speaker 1: need to take the football away. We need to be

478
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Speaker 1: ball you know, ball seeking, as Kevin Sefanski would say.

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Speaker 1: And then we need to capitalize on that and not

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Speaker 1: make mistakes offensively and lean on some darn good players

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Speaker 1: in their own right and Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt

482
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Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper and the chief. So that that's the

483
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Speaker 1: that's the mode for it. Yeah, it is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fun one and we'll build for it all week.

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Speaker 1: One of the men who is the architects of this operation,

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Speaker 1: Chief strategy Officer, Paul de Podesta, will join us. Coming

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Speaker 1: the Great Paul de Podesta joining the show. Paul, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time. Let's just start

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Speaker 1: just mindset for you heading into this one. What's what's

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Speaker 1: game week Like? You've spent this whole offseason with many

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Speaker 1: many others putting this roster together and be in a

510
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Speaker 1: position that that you like where you're at and now

511
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Speaker 1: here you are. What what's this like for you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You can't can't wait? So late late Sunday night, I

513
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: was sending an email to coach the Fanski and a

514
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Speaker 1: B and it was just titled Week one with a

515
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Speaker 1: bunch of exclamation points. Um, everyone's always super excited for

516
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Speaker 1: the year and uh, you know, ready to get going.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's certainly the way we all

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Speaker 1: feel this week. Did it feel like an unusually long

519
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Speaker 1: off season given everything else that that was going on?

520
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Speaker 1: And so that now okay, now we get to play

521
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Speaker 1: games and talk about games instead of talking about theoretically

522
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: what this team can be. Sure, I mean, I think

523
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Speaker 1: that it definitely felt long this year, But I think

524
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Speaker 1: that actually started with not ultimately achieving what we set

525
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: out to achieve last year, right, and having that bad

526
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Speaker 1: taste in your mouth and just not uh not, I

527
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: wanted to wait to get out there again. Remember last January,

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Speaker 1: you know all of the sayings, He's I wish I

529
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: wish it were September Like next week even though we

530
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Speaker 1: knew we had a lot of work in front of us.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously we've uh, you know, done a lot

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Speaker 1: with the team this year, and there's been some noise

533
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: around it, which we all know. But yeah, we're absolutely

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00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: anxious to get out there and you know, see what

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Speaker 1: this team can do. I think we're you know, we're

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00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: excited about the roster we have and um, you know

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Speaker 1: feel like we're really ready to go. Paul, You know,

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00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: this has been a couple of year process, uh, in

539
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: terms of identifying things that needed to be fixed and

540
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: amplified as the defense has gone along, and we got

541
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: to look at this defense a lot in camp. I

542
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: saw him against Philly. Uh boy, it's long, it's quick,

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00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: it's interchangeable. It's dominant upfront, certainly at the edges with

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jadevion. When you think about go back a

545
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Speaker 1: couple of years and think about what you were trying

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Speaker 1: to build big picture with this defense, how close does

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Speaker 1: this get to what you guys were hoping to do? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this is really looks like the picture we

549
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Speaker 1: laid out, you know, a couple of years ago, and

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00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: you already laid out a bunch of the points, you know,

551
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Speaker 1: long and fast. That that was something that we knew

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Speaker 1: we had to do and we and we didn't really

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Speaker 1: have those attributes at least on the defense as a whole.

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Speaker 1: You know, a few years ago, we wanted to be

555
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Speaker 1: able to disrupt the passer, which obviously, Kenna, we really

556
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Speaker 1: want to be able to cover. And we feel like

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00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: we've got some really terrific corners, um and and all

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Speaker 1: that's been built, you know, over the course of the

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Speaker 1: last few years. And I think we really saw the

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Speaker 1: defense come together in the second half of last season.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had so much turnover in the defensive

562
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Speaker 1: personnel from the twenty season to the twenty one season.

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Speaker 1: It was almost like having a brand new defense again.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was the second year of our defensive staff,

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Speaker 1: but it was really the first year for what nine

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Speaker 1: of our starters or something like that. So we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd be better in the second half of the year,

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Speaker 1: and we absolutely were. So we're really excited now to see, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this this is truly the second year now of of

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00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: of of the same defense, the same scheme. We feel

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00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: like our guys are playing faster, they have a better

572
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: understanding of everything going on. Um, and as you mentioned too,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys who can do lots

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Speaker 1: of different things, so we can present a lot of

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Speaker 1: different looks to various offenses. I think we match up

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00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: very well. Um in those matchups may look very different

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Speaker 1: week to week, just depending on what we're seeing on

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Speaker 1: the other side, but I think we've got the personnel

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Speaker 1: to match up. So we're really excited to see how

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Speaker 1: this defense plays. And um, you know, we didn't get

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Speaker 1: to see it all together in the preseason, so I

582
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Speaker 1: think we're all anxious to see it. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: not like last year where we think, oh, it's going

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Speaker 1: to take a couple of months for this to gel.

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Speaker 1: You know, we think we can be pretty good right

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Speaker 1: out of the shoot. Paull. On the defensive side, your

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Speaker 1: starters are back basically at every position with one exception,

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Speaker 1: which is the interior of the defensive line, and that's

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Speaker 1: the one that's gotten the most you know, outside discussion.

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Speaker 1: How much thought was given to maybe doing something there

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Speaker 1: at the fifty three man cut and how comfortable are

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Speaker 1: you with that room as it is currently? Instructive? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we like our entire d line room, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we really look at it as a as a composite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can separate the interior from the edge guys,

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Speaker 1: but we really look at it all together. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jorge Elliott I think has made really significant strides. He

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Speaker 1: made significant strides during the season last year, and we're

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Speaker 1: excited about what he can do in in a in

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Speaker 1: a bigger role. Uh. And then bringing on Tavan Brian

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Speaker 1: and we think we've got the right sort of scheme

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Speaker 1: fit for him. He's had some years already in this

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Speaker 1: league where he was a really productive player. We think

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Speaker 1: he can return to that. And then we have a

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Speaker 1: couple of you know, younger guys twenty one pick in

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Speaker 1: Tommy Toga and um, you know, with with Perry on

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Speaker 1: there in the middle, UM, and those guys are going

608
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Speaker 1: to get experience and and look this position in particular,

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Speaker 1: you know, it can take a couple of years for

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Speaker 1: guys to really get their sea legs. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: the the interior blocking schemes in the NFL, the physicality, UM,

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Speaker 1: it's hard. You know for those interior defensive players, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. There's a lot they have to recognize. UM.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just about being a big strong and fast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's there's a lot of mental games going on

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Speaker 1: there in the in the trenches, even though it may

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: not seem like it all the time on TV. So

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Speaker 1: it takes a while for guys to get comfortable. So

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Speaker 1: we know those younger guys, it's still gonna take some time,

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Speaker 1: but we're excited about, you know, the potential both those

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Speaker 1: guys have. But we feel that Jordan's um and Taven

622
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Speaker 1: you know, starting off for are in good shape for us,

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Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, we'll give us some good

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Speaker 1: stability there up front, Paul. Last one on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year it was Miles, it was Jadevian

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Speaker 1: and then when you get into Nickel or obvious passing situations,

627
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Tack McKinley was kind of that third d N in

628
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Speaker 1: our pressure package where we'd have those three defensive ends

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Speaker 1: out there. Has somebody kind of emerged in that role

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Speaker 1: to be that third pass rushing defensive end after we

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Speaker 1: saw you know, brought and win a bit and very

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Speaker 1: impressive stuff quite frankly from from our third round pick Alex. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you mentioned two of the guys

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Speaker 1: that I think stand out certainly is the way we

635
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: were putting the team together. Those are some of the

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Speaker 1: thoughts we had. We thought that Chase you know, certainly

637
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Speaker 1: has ability as a sub rusher. Again, he's another guy

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Speaker 1: that's had some good years in this league. He's um,

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Speaker 1: you know, sumulated a handful of sacks at times, so

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Speaker 1: we definitely think he can play that role. But I

641
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: hate the way we're looking at it is more uh,

642
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: not so much the players that fit into the scheme

643
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: that we ran last year, but it's really about what

644
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: our players can do, and then the players that we have,

645
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: what can they do? And then what are the best

646
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: schemes for us to run given that? Um. So we're

647
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: really excited about Alex right. Uh, you know, we think

648
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: he's a he's got three down potential as a defensive end.

649
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Um you know. On it again, with all these guys,

650
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: it takes them a little while to get their sea legs. Um.

651
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: But honestly, he's he's further along I think any of

652
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: us expected he would be. I mean, he was a

653
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: guy going into the draft that we had circled, you know,

654
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: two weeks beforehands and you know, this guy is going

655
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: to be a Cleveland Brown like someway or another. He's

656
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: going to be at Stavan Brown, so he was he

657
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: was a consensus pick for us. Everyone was excited to

658
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: get him. But I think if you ask any of

659
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: us who were excited about taking him, we'd all tell

660
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: you we're pleasantly surprised with just how how far he's

661
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 1: come in camp. I mean, he's I think he's uh

662
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule at this point, so we're he's gonna

663
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: get some opportunities. We'll see what he can do. We're

664
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: also happy with, you know, Isaac Rochelle and Isaiah Thomas. Um.

665
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I think those guys have done a really nice job

666
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: and showing that you know, they've got they've got uh,

667
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, potential to carve out real roles on this team.

668
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: They're both probably more based down packages as opposed to

669
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, sub packages, but who knows, you know that

670
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: that that could also change as the year goes on.

671
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: But they've shown real ability in those based packages, and um,

672
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna help us win. So we we like,

673
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, all six of those guys this year. So

674
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I think we have a little bit more depth than

675
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: we had previously. Paul, I think outside of quarterback Obviously

676
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: the biggest positional shake up was it wide receiver and

677
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: you bring in a Marii Cooper and that speaks for itself.

678
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: But you expect Donovan Peoples Jones to continue to take

679
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: strides as he has behind that. Uh, it's I think

680
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: it's fair to say it's been a little and you

681
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: can correct me. I'm sure you feel differently, but it's

682
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: been a little up and down in camp with with Schwartz. Obviously,

683
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: David Bell gets healthy and that's good. Woods was great early,

684
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: but then has the injury. Is that room? Is there

685
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: more to it than what we're seeing? Do you? Obviously

686
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: you guys believe in it a great deal. I guess

687
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: what are you seeing that we're not from that group early?

688
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I guess speaking me specifically, Sure, Um, well, I think

689
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: you you laid it out pretty well. I mean a

690
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: Maori Uh is a total pro. We're excited about having him.

691
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: There's a lot that he can do, both on the

692
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: outside and in the slot, so I think we'll we'll

693
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: probably end up moving him around some as as the

694
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: situation dictates, but there's a lot he can do. As

695
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: for Donovan, you know, this is the first time he's

696
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: he's at this point the year stepping into the number

697
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: two receiver role, you know. I mean a year ago

698
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: it was still you know, O'Dell and Jarvis. So uh,

699
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: you know, Donovan had a great camp and was really

700
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: stepping up, and but he wasn't he wasn't the true

701
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: number two at that point. There are certainly times where

702
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: he's had to play that role before that, but he

703
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: he clearly is in that role now. So I think

704
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: we're excited about what he can do this season. Um.

705
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, with some of the younger guys,

706
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, the draft picks from either this year or

707
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: last year, you know, they've they've all had some injuries

708
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, during camp, um, And so that that I

709
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: think is sort of set each of them back a

710
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. But I think we're confident in all

711
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: three of those guys, um, and we believe they're going

712
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: to contribute to us. The other guy had mentioned is

713
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Demetrich Felton, um, you know, and he I think he'll

714
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: end up playing a role in that room. I know

715
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: he's also playing a role in the running back room. UM.

716
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that you know, is really dynamic

717
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. And we're gonna certainly

718
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: find a way to get him the ball, um, you know,

719
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and uh, pretty routinely. Um, because he can he can

720
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: make a lot of things happen. So I were, you know,

721
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: the short summary, the three younger guys that have all

722
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: had some injuries in camp. You know, we're just gonna

723
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: have to see how it plays out through the year.

724
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: That may be a situation sort of like our defense

725
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: last year that hey, they may be playing much more

726
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: prominent roles in the second half of the season in

727
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: the first half, but but we'll see. Um, we think

728
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: that all three of those guys can can rise to

729
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: the occasion, and we really have a lot of belief

730
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: in all of them. And they all play slightly different

731
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: roles and have different skill sets, but I think they

732
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: all have skill sets that, uh, certainly that we can use.

733
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: I think we all know the running back room and

734
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: it's the best in the NFL, and we're very excited

735
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: about that. So we'll skip over that and go right

736
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: to the tight ends unless there's something you really want

737
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: to talk about with those guys. But how pleased are

738
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: you with with David and Joku? I think is that

739
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: have a great offseason at a nice a great practice yesterday. Uh,

740
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: and he and Harrison Brant kind of form in that

741
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: one to punch in that room. Yeah, I'm really happy

742
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: with those two guys. And we had an embarrassment of riches,

743
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: you know the last couple of years with Austin Hooper

744
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: also being part of that group. But you know, we

745
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: did see at times when we had some injuries to

746
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: that room over the course of the past two years

747
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: that when we only had two of the three, whichever

748
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: two they were, tended to be significantly more productive, you know,

749
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: than when we had all three. Um. And that isn't

750
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: a reason to not have more good players, you know, Um,

751
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: but I think it. It's certainly gets as excited about,

752
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, both Harrison and David and the productivity we

753
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: expect from them this year in those roles. Obviously, just

754
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: signed Jesse James too, and he's a pro. He's been

755
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: this league for you know, six or seven years at

756
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: this point, and uh, you know, we have I think

757
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: a lot of trust in him and what he can

758
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: also bring into that room. Um. But you know, those

759
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: those those two headline guys, Uh, you know, I think

760
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: they're they're both very athletic Um, they're both good in

761
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: both phases in terms of the run game and the

762
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: past game. So there's a lot that we can do

763
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: with those guys. So I would expect that both of

764
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: them will be, you know, an integral part of the offense. Boy,

765
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: that one of the strength of this team as long

766
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: as you guys have been here, and really for the

767
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: last decade plus has been on the offensive line. You

768
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: go all the back to the Joe Thomas era and

769
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: all the guys that were here there and then and

770
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: then continuing on a little bit of transition here obviously

771
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: at center, going from j C to Nick Harris and

772
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: the boy you want to talk about heartbreaking, that's about

773
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: as heartbreaking as a gifts. The injury to Nick early

774
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: on that that one just breaks your heart. But you

775
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: do make a move today as well with Joe Egg

776
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: rather over the weekend with Joe Hegg coming in at tackle.

777
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 1: Um is there? I caught us a little bit by surprise, Paul.

778
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Is there anything more to that or do you just

779
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: like the player because obviously you can have from my

780
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: account four tackles now in the mix. Yeah, you know,

781
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: I think if you were to ask Andrew Barry, he

782
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: would he would tell you that he's a self proclaimed

783
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: offensive line snob, and I think we all are. You know,

784
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: it's to some degree. It's it's something we you know,

785
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: really believe in just just how important it is obviously

786
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: in both the run game and the past game. We

787
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: also think we have two of the best offensive line

788
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: coaches and all football, you know, with Bill Callahan Scott Peters.

789
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: They've just done an unbelievable job with our guys, and

790
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: so we feel like we've got significant depth there. Really

791
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: like our starters. You know, as you mentioned, it was

792
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, really really tough to see Nick go down

793
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. UM, you know, otherwise not gonna well,

794
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: we've been able to stay reasonably healthy. UM. Really excited

795
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: about the year that Jed Wills has in front of him.

796
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: He's looked fantastic during camp. UM's played really really well,

797
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: playing confidently. UM. And then you know with with the tackles,

798
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, Jack Coughlin were really hopeful to get him back.

799
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: He's looked really good in practice. UM, he's really close

800
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: to you know, being game ready. UM. And until then,

801
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: you know, James Hudson's played well. You mentioned, we got

802
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Joe Haig we have Chris Hubbard. We just want to

803
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: make sure that, uh that we're completely covered in case

804
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: of any eventuality. Right. We don't want to be in

805
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: a situation ever where you know, one spot on a

806
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: line is compromising how we play offense at the end

807
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: of the day. And um, you know, I think our

808
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: offensive line is is good enough and now is sort

809
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: of deep enough. Uh that that shouldn't be the case

810
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: this year, you know, knock on wood. Um. You know

811
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: the interesting about Haig is it not only can you

812
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: play both tactical spots, he can also play both guard spots. Uh.

813
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: You know, we can only carry so many guys on

814
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: on game day, so ideally those backup guys can play

815
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: multiple roles. Um. You know, we really like Drew Forbes,

816
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: who unfortunately we lost on waivers, you know to the

817
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Lions yesterday. He's a really nice player. You know, he

818
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: stood for everything we believe in. He's smart, tough, accountable.

819
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. Um, but

820
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: he's a guard, you know as of right now. And

821
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: that's really what the calculus came down to, was like, okay,

822
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: as as a backup player, just you know, it really

823
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: helps to have that positional flexibility and and Haig brings

824
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: that to us and uh not to mention you know

825
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: a few thousand snaps in this league already where she

826
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: didn't have any. So I really believe in Drew. Think

827
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a really nice career. Again, hate that

828
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: we lost him, will be rooting for him. But that

829
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: was really the thinking behind the move with bringing Joe on.

830
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: Talk with Paul de Podesta, the Browns chief strategy officer,

831
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: and Paul, let's talk quarterback really quickly. You know, going

832
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: into this, I know how high you were and this

833
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: organization was on Jacoby Brissette. Now that he's been here,

834
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: it feels like the feelings are even more positive. If

835
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: you wouldn't mind talk about him, what you've seen from

836
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: Dobbs and then the decision to bring in Kellen mont Sure, Um,

837
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: Jacoby has been everything has advertised and more. You know,

838
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: he's he's a natural leader, not just in the room,

839
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: but among our whole team. Um. You know, we we

840
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: had an exercise during the during the off season at

841
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the end of the spring program where we took all

842
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: of our players over to the Cavaliers facility for a

843
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: day um and had a shooting concerts. Uh, and it

844
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: wasn't much of a contest because Jacoba just crushed everybody.

845
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. Um. Now, he's a terrific athlete, has

846
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: a really good feel for the game, and he just

847
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: has a calming presence. Um. It seems like the game

848
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: is relatively slow to him. He sees the field really well. Um,

849
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: he moves through progressions easily. Um, he's not rattled in

850
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: the pocket. He just again a very calming presence on

851
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the field, both in the huddle and while the play

852
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: is going on. So I really really happy to have him.

853
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: We think we can win with him. Um that we

854
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: know we can win with him. So we're excited to

855
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: see how this, how this looks, you know, in the

856
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks, and we're gonna get an early

857
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: taste of it because what we have three games and

858
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: what twelve days or something like that to kick off

859
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So um, but we think he's done a

860
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: really nice job. Dobbs has been fantastic. I mean I

861
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: think you know, when we signed him early, we knew

862
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: he was very smart and very athletic, and we thought,

863
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, we we need you know, we need more

864
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: guys at the position and um, as you're always doing camp.

865
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's exceeded our expectations. He played extremely

866
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: well during the preseason. Um. There are things that he

867
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: can do that they can help us win a game,

868
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: and I think he showed that throughout August. UM, and

869
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: he's lived up to that reputation as being again both

870
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: very smart and very athletic. UM. And then you know,

871
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: the decision to claim Kellen Mon. But the reality is this,

872
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: this position is the most important position in all of sports.

873
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think you can never stop taking shots.

874
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, guys, and Mom was a guy we like

875
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: last year in the draft. He ended up going in

876
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: the in the third round. You know, at the time

877
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: last year, it wasn't necessarily a priority for us, given

878
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks we already had on our roster, you know,

879
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to go to go draft a guy that high. UM,

880
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: But when he came available this year, thought, you know,

881
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: this is a guy we really liked. We think he's

882
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: got real potential in this league. He's also at a

883
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: very athletic guy. Um took a lot of snaps in college,

884
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: like he you know, he's got a lot of sort

885
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: of a time under his belt, um, and we really

886
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: want to work with him, so you know, we'll see,

887
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously for him, these next couple of weeks

888
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: going to be about you know, learning, you know, for

889
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: the most part, behind Jacoby and Josh and you know,

890
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: knock on would we stay healthy and um, he won't

891
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: be you know, pressed into duty right away, but um,

892
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, we claimed him with the idea that uh,

893
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, we think he's got a real future in

894
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: this league and with our organization. So we're uh, we're

895
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: excited about his traits, you know, his skills at this

896
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: point and looking to develop them. In a situation like

897
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: that where again he was drafted by Minnesota in the

898
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: third round a year ago, not by Quasi Adolpho Menza,

899
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: who was now the general manager of the Minnesota Vikings,

900
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: who him, We know him, Paul knows him very well,

901
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: and he says, you know what, you know, we're cutting them,

902
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: and I know they wanted to back on their PRIX one.

903
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: But is that a situation where you'd be like, hey,

904
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: what's the deal with this guy? I think A B

905
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: and Quazy definitely had some of those, some of those conversations,

906
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: but it is hard. I mean, look, We're obviously good

907
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: friends with him and root and hard for him. Uh

908
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: but but it's competitive, you know, and like you said,

909
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: they wanted him back on the practice squad. So it's

910
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: a little awkward to sit there and say, hey, you know,

911
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: should we be claiming this guy? You know what, what

912
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: can you tell me about him? Um? But we you know,

913
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: we did our homework. We you know, we did our

914
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: best to try to uh learn as much as we

915
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: could about his time in Minnesota. Obviously, our scouts have

916
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: done a tremendous job on him the year before, so

917
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: we felt like we had a lot of background information

918
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: on him going in UM and then had to tape

919
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: from you know, this preseason. Um. But uh but yeah,

920
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: we you know, maybe felt a little bit bad about it. Crazy,

921
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: but hey, that's you know, on what the cost of

922
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: doing business. I guess that's right, Paul. Not a lot

923
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: of homework needed on the opposition quarterback this week. We

924
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: know this guy pretty well with Baker, and as as

925
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: we all know about Baker, you know, emotionally, when he

926
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: can get going, it can be an incredibly positive for

927
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: him and people can rally around it. What what do

928
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: you make about the the idea of a guy who

929
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: has been in our building for four years being the

930
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: opposing quarterback on Sunday in the opener. Yeah, don't don't

931
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: love It's a good player. I mean he's a he's

932
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: a really good player. And there's a reason we took

933
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield number one overall. Uh, and he won a

934
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: lot of games for us, one of one, our first

935
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: playoff game in twenty five years. Um, as you said, Baker,

936
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: Baker has an edge, and he has an edge and

937
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: that that helps fuel him and just knowing him as

938
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: a person, um, he doesn't need he doesn't need the

939
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: extra fuel uh this week in terms of us being

940
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: the opponent, he'd be fired up regardless, um, and playing

941
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: with that edge. But um, you know he's as tough

942
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: as competitor as there is out there. So UM, look

943
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough game. And uh,

944
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately in this league, you figure you're gonna

945
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: run into you know, ex players all the time, as

946
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: we do. And it was inevitable that if he wasn't

947
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: gonna be our quarterback, he was gonna be starting for

948
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: someone else. Uh, and we're going to run into him.

949
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: It just it happens to be the very first week. Um,

950
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: but no, if we have a ton of respect for him, um,

951
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, in some respect, maybe even best

952
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: that we get this one out of the way in

953
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: week one and don't have to don't have to look

954
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: to it in the future. But I hope he has

955
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: a great year. I really, I really do think we're

956
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: all all of us have been with him for four years.

957
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: We're rooting for him, and um, you know, want to

958
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: see him do well. Thank you so much to bring

959
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: out his best on Sunday. I think that's all. Yeah,

960
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: the emotions will be running high. Paul, thank you so

961
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: much for your time. We appreciated a great deal, no problem,

962
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: happy to do it all right. That's Paul D. Podesta

963
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: joining us on the hotline. There we go around the league.

964
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,879
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965
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:59,520
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971
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: for Dogs. We had a long conversation yesterday. Uh, it

972
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: feels like it's time to get the dog for the children,

973
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: that it's that time to do Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

974
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna end on that. Yeah. I think we're gonna

975
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: go with I think probably the way it's gonna go

976
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: as a retriever, probably golden, like a nice golden is

977
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. That way. There can be some fetch,

978
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: some chase down efforts, some retrieving, retrieving of balls. This

979
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: feels like they're a good time a year to do it.

980
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: The kids aren't in school, so the blonde can focus

981
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: on it. Um, the weather, you know, other than today,

982
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: which is just pure crap, should be dry enough. Gotta

983
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: have gotta prepare for mud. Oh, I know. More importantly,

984
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: gotta get it early enough that you're not digging snow

985
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: paths for it for tin to go outside at three

986
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: in the morning. Yeah, you gotta get the You gotta

987
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: get the potty training done early. Here if you're gonna

988
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: get this dog sooner rather than later, no pressure, I mean,

989
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: what's the perfect window to do this? Usually spring, because

990
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: then you. Yeah, but you're all in the muck. Yeah,

991
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: but now by summer like July probably probably you can

992
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: get it trained by like September October. Easy, then you're fine. Good. Yea.

993
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: So this dog, as though as we is, where's this

994
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: dog living primarily outside with a piggyback in the entryway

995
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: of the walkout. It's gonna end up saying one of

996
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: the kid's room, No question, no chance that that's happening.

997
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean, it's not saying that the kids

998
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: room dog is seping going to stay in one of

999
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: their rooms. You think that's a lock lock The big

1000
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: dog Golden Retrievers a big dog. They're gonna love it.

1001
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: You want that dog, and whoever it choose, it's gonna

1002
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: be a kerfuffle. But it's gonna that do is gonna

1003
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: choose somebody's room to sleep in, and they're gonna love

1004
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: it to sleep at the foot of the bed. It's

1005
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: like a boy and his dogs. That dog, that dog

1006
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: one boy, and it is going to hate and chew

1007
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: up everything in another boy's bedroom. No, we're not gonna

1008
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: have that. I'm telling you, I don't. I don't believe

1009
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: that'll have That's how it usually goes just not your room,

1010
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: no right, and they're gonna love it. What's there are?

1011
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: Do they all have their owns or somebody anybody? It's

1012
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: gonna end up. I'm feeling the dog is going to

1013
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: be Boots. He's gonna want it. But the dog, I

1014
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: think is gonna go with Beams his genteel disposition. I

1015
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: disagree from the standpoint of Beams. He is scared of

1016
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: most things animal, and so I think the one who

1017
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: is going to be most willing to like literally sleep

1018
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: on the dog will be NBC. He'll be you know,

1019
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: he is getting scared of his own golden retriever. I

1020
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think I think it's in. Yeah,

1021
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be more cautious. Sure, yeah, he's going

1022
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: the boots. He's going to try to write it like

1023
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: it's like Swiss family. Robinson. There's no question that if

1024
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: you're every night angry and yelling that the dog, dog

1025
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: dog going into the other room. Now now that we

1026
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: get we're gonna have some strict things with furniture, like

1027
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: we can't have dogs and furniture, Like there's all sorts

1028
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: of this stuff that's gonna put so we'll see you

1029
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: want me to take a picture of the dog I

1030
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: found this morning in my kid's bedroom getting on the couch.

1031
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: It's now the big girl bed for the don't one dog.

1032
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: The dog's gonna be on the couch, head on their lap, petting.

1033
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Everybody to be happy except for you. Yeah, I won't be.

1034
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. There's gotta be rescue. Golden's right.

1035
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to do that absolutely, Yeah, for sure. Yeah,

1036
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: that's what I need to do. Maybe that's ideal. Then

1037
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about the puppy face area

1038
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: one that's already like it's like two. Yeah, I don't.

1039
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's that might be a tougher, very specifics

1040
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, puppy I would think would be too rescue.

1041
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Puppy puppies are tough. Puppies are a lot tougher. I

1042
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: think you could trying to rescue, just like both minor rescues.

1043
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah so, and they're awes, but you know if you

1044
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: get the rescue that yeah, our second one about broke us.

1045
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Forget about us breaking the dog. The dog about broke us. Yeah,

1046
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: it's time. It's I used to have to threaten ASA

1047
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: with the A one way ticket on the Shanghai Express

1048
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: team player. He help me help you, that's right. Can

1049
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: we give you a great life some sites? Staking then

1050
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: what's your what's your stance on that giving it food? Oh?

1051
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm for that. We did that as a kid, but

1052
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: we'd always not at the table like they would our dogs,

1053
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: remember in the house, but like we would take the scraps,

1054
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: the bones and stuff and then feed that to them.

1055
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: They go outside and a little plate and yeah, you

1056
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: can have that, not at the table though, We'll do

1057
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: that offsite site, off site. We'll do that. That's how

1058
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: that will go. So, yeah, you can't have it. I cannot.

1059
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm not having a dog. This dog is gonna be

1060
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: sitting there like this's going like like I strike you

1061
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: as the type that's going to be emotional. No, but

1062
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: you're not the word you as someone who does not

1063
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: rule with an iron fist. But you're going to see

1064
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: the joy that the dog brings to your boys. Hold

1065
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: on a second, I love the dog still a second. Yeah,

1066
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: this is I imagine in your union that it's not

1067
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: This isn't like a a patriarchy is it's a true union.

1068
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: And while you may be resolute as I've seen. I've

1069
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: only been around this dynamic a few times. You may

1070
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: be quite resolute and then they have an ability to

1071
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: look at their mother and make up and then they

1072
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: get they have some of what some so you were

1073
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: I will say she's hardened from the time that you

1074
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: saw her, because they're becoming more pains in the neck

1075
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: than they were then they were. That was three years

1076
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: ago at that time. This is another reason why we

1077
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: need transformer. Tricky situation the world. Have a better feel

1078
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: for where we're at. She's at the end of a

1079
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: rope a little bit. With the ten year old, there's

1080
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: we're approaching that time. Um, oh, he's the trouble. Well no,

1081
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: I just think like the you know, they just want

1082
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: different stuff like they're getting. You know. It's like I've

1083
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: always said on the show, I say yes everything they

1084
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: asked from Will you coach this? Will you do this? Yes?

1085
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Because there's gonna come a point where they ate me.

1086
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: I know that's coming, so probably than oh yeah, yeah,

1087
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: that's all happening. Hey, the Steelers are retiring Franco Harris's jersey.

1088
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: This is pretty cool. They're actually gonna do it when

1089
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: they play the Raiders. I was actually surprised to find

1090
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: out his number was not retired. Unto yeah, me too, um,

1091
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: so his numbers is not retired, but they will retire it.

1092
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: I like the idea of honoring the number versus retiring it.

1093
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: I like the idea of being able to wear a

1094
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: number again and maybe having some sort of notification if

1095
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: you wear Franco patch. So g r I n rescue

1096
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: dot org is Golden Retrievers in need the Grin Rescue.

1097
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: They've rescued thirty D Golden's adoption process. It's all right

1098
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: there available gold Are these guys they got They got

1099
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: me sorted out here thanks to Mark Bishop. He sent

1100
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: us and I mean from one bishop to another. Boy,

1101
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: there's actually I got several of those. Look at this

1102
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: little bing bing Is he ready to go? Booie buddy Brady? Oh,

1103
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: look at these guys, sweet little butter cup. All right,

1104
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: oh Charlie, Charles Chuck. I mean they're big guys though,

1105
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: right some of them. Some are puppies. Being is a puppy?

1106
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: Did you click on available Golden's I'll have to do

1107
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: this in the break Oh baby, yes, some of them

1108
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: are quite old, but like you don't want to be

1109
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: too old, like, because then although the timing of that

1110
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: might be ideal, there is that way. It's not a

1111
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: decade long commitment. I'm sorry to my father, Like goes,

1112
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: they had a Yorkie the thing less than six God

1113
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: bless her sixteen years. Yeah, but that's a whole life

1114
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: and getting another one, new one and done one and done.

1115
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: That's why this is the perfect time you get. If

1116
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I get I got a ten year life expenses attendance, Yeah,

1117
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: that's when that's too old. That's Oh my god. Look

1118
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: at all the ones Paul's got, He's got six of them.

1119
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Look at Google, they get all sorts of these guys.

1120
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: That's great. Um Steeler's depth chart, it's funny. So I

1121
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: had to explain this this warning. PR puts out a

1122
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: depth chart for all the NFL teams. But that is

1123
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: not the depth chart gets ran with every stinking year

1124
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: at this ridiculous people run with it and and oh

1125
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: this is it, and it's like, well, wait a second,

1126
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: it's just PR putting out a depth chart because do

1127
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: they have to? Is that the deal? It's an unofficial

1128
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: depth chart that has to be posted. Okay, So that's

1129
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: how it happened. So this part of this was the

1130
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Steelers everyone panicking that Mason Rudolph was ahead of Kenny Pickett.

1131
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: But then today they're made available pickets the two. That's right,

1132
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: So Travisky is the starter, he's the captain, pickets the

1133
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: two on the official depth. How do you think is

1134
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickets a gent getting hooked and worked into a

1135
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: shoot and calling going a client's got to be number two.

1136
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: It's not college football, there's not free transfer. So I

1137
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: don't think that doesn't matter. Is I think that there

1138
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: he probably played himself into it. I think the more

1139
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: stunning thing is they basically hung with Mason Rudolph for

1140
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: all those years, you know, trying to pass him off

1141
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: as the quarterback of the future, and you know he

1142
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: never was. And so I'm actually surprised for Whisky is

1143
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: the captain. I think that makes it a little tricky

1144
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: if you go to make a switch off of him

1145
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: at some point when you're talking about the captain. That

1146
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: surprised me that they did that. Uh, this not surprising.

1147
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: John Harbas saying Lamar Jackson is locked in ahead of

1148
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: week one despite the contract situation after yesterday's practice, So

1149
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: when is the date where he become where they have

1150
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: to franchise him is that they don't have to do anything.

1151
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: They're fine, that's next year. He basically if come week one, yeah,

1152
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: if it's not, that was his deadline, all right, so

1153
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: he will have, um, He'll play this year out on

1154
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: the current contract. Then next year he could be franchise

1155
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: twice or is it next year once? And then it's

1156
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: the Cousins situation. So next year he could be franchise.

1157
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: The next year he could be franchise the year after

1158
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: that at a massive premium if no contract happens. Honestly,

1159
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: that might be the best for both. And it seems

1160
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: like the Ravens don't want to do a six year

1161
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed to fifty or whatever, and he wants to be

1162
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: highest paid, so he can do he can do franchise,

1163
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: franchise back to back and then be free to be

1164
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: like Cousins three years from now. It's a long ways

1165
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: down the road, man. Yeah, you'll have plenty of money

1166
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: if you'd go that route. Yeah, yeah, his um. Their

1167
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: their situation is interesting. I've seen a lot of the

1168
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: previous stuff. I know, you guys have to and there

1169
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of people picking the Ravens to win

1170
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: our division, and I think it's out of habit. I first,

1171
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: certainly have a lot of respect for them, but it

1172
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: is hard for me to wrap my head around a

1173
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: team coming off of that type of significant injury being

1174
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: somehow better than Cincinnati. I don't see any scenario where

1175
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: since then he's not better than they were last year.

1176
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean they're gonna go to the super

1177
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Bowl again, but they're a better team. It's just again,

1178
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: it just is in the event that there's that super

1179
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: Bowl hangover. People really believe in that super Bowl hangover,

1180
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: and so I think that really it's not the Bengals.

1181
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: Who would it be the next most likely team given

1182
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: our situation and what's going on, the Steelers is going

1183
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: to be the Baltimore Raps. Raps are still quality football team.

1184
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: They don't scare me, but they're good. Yeah, and I

1185
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: think we have the perfect defense to deal with them,

1186
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: but I think probably not by accident. Not by accident

1187
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: or defense is set up for that perfectly. But now,

1188
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: I look, you have, you have all the respect in

1189
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: the world for for what they can what they can be,

1190
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: but I also think you also have to acknowledge their

1191
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: injuries were in many instances borderline catastrophic, Oh, no doubt.

1192
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: And they both corners, the running backs, both backs. Yeah,

1193
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: like so it does sound like there's chance J. K.

1194
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: Dobbins could play Week one for them. Yeah. He said,

1195
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: your new Golden is going to be like this, looking

1196
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: at you right from the couch, staring you down. How

1197
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: little you know that you guys have no idea the

1198
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: resolve that I had with dogs as a child, by

1199
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Speaker 1: the young, by Pops Bishop teaching me the ways. And

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Speaker 1: that's fine in theory, but until you love the ways

1201
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: of Pops Bishop. Yeah, it was fine. No, in general

1202
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: I hated him, but in this instance it was fine.

1203
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: Like I do say this, you can't let that. I

1204
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: have too many people I've been around you. The dog

1205
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: runs the situation that's I'm not dealing with. I can't run,

1206
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: not running any situation. But it's not a human. It is,

1207
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: but it's not a human, correct, So that's a different police. Yeah,

1208
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: they can't have. Yeah, but a dog sleeping in a

1209
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: in a child's bedroom or on the bed at the end, No, no,

1210
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't even say that. At some point

1211
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. Once we're through the training part, like

1212
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: a dog bed in the boy in one of boy's room,

1213
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: sleeping on the dog bed. I don't know. That's fine.

1214
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have a problem with that, um, but

1215
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have running a muck like running

1216
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: that's not that will not stand. I do think though,

1217
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: there's a slightly different situation from growing up on the

1218
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: ponderosas on like an active farm, then in a very

1219
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: nice community, a very large home and the state. I

1220
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know that, but I think what I need. The

1221
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: key to this operation was going to be the fencing,

1222
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: the permanent fencing, and that's not done. So I'm at

1223
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: the geo track head or something like. I do want.

1224
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: It's really important for dog to be outside and be

1225
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: able to run, and we have some makroage, so run

1226
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: them up. The best thing and it helps with disciplining

1227
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: them and teaching them discipline and whatnot is the use

1228
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: of the shot collar. Does that tie into the geo

1229
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: track so you can go underground fence, right, But I

1230
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: don't think you need that anymore. I think literally, but

1231
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: I also have a handheld like he doesn't like. Yeah,

1232
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: if I needed to, I could zapp her if she's

1233
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: chasing a skunk per se. She was a month and

1234
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: a half ago. Um, you know, something like that where

1235
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: you need but like she gets too far, just a

1236
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: little like just the slightest thing they know, and they'll

1237
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: come right back. Yeah, now there you go. Do it

1238
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: a couple, you know, take your bagine. I get this

1239
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: dog and I send it to Camp Gibby. Give me

1240
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: in for a month. Just the analyte. My wife is

1241
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: is pretty darn good at it. I bet she would

1242
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: be like, I come in, She's like, what are you doing?

1243
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: You are doing everything. You're doing everything that I don't

1244
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: want you to do. And I'm like, oh, well, dogs

1245
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: seems to be having fun. Dogs out of the time.

1246
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: It's life, all right. You'll hear from John Johnson coming

1247
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: up next year on the program a Little Better Worse

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Speaker 1: Coming up at the bottom of the hour. You list

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Speaker 1: apparently in appearance by Anthony Walker Jr. At the podium

1255
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: from yesterday. Defense right now possible the best possible shape

1256
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: to start the season. Uh. I mean it's never perfect,

1257
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: but I think you know, we're in a good place. Um,

1258
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of bonus days like to get

1259
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: ready for this one. So I think we're in a

1260
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: good place. Yeah. Yeah, I call a cute Um those

1261
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: preseason games like Live actually, and UM, I have watched

1262
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: a couple of things, UM, just stuff you see, you know,

1263
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: and social media stuff like that. But we're gonna put it,

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Speaker 1: put together a good plan. Like I said, we got

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01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: a couple of bonus days, so that helps us, and um,

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be ready. There some reports last week

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: off some things had said, talked about it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Last conversation didn't happen exactly like that. Greg said it

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't matter whether or not it was actually said that

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01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: you guys would find a way to use that. I

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: guess this motivation. Do you feel that way. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're gonna prepare, you know, like how we always prepare.

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's week one, we gotta win the opener.

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01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean we gotta go one and know that's what

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: everyone wants to do. Hav the team's gonna start with

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: a win. Half the team's gonna start with a law.

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: So we want to be that team. I mean that

1278
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: team that has a W. So it's just all preparation

1279
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: is not gonna change when it comes to mariority. Who

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01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: really has to advantage the quarterback who's familiar with the defense,

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: or the defense who was familiar with the quarter I mean,

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a little biased. I'm gonna say

1283
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: the defense. Uh, it's one of him and eleven of us.

1284
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: So you know we can move all around and disguised

1285
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: things and different guys different spots. So I think we

1286
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: got that. Man last week, you know how you feel

1287
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: about that? Disappointed man? We had that game one. Um

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01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: we laid down, I say, and um, we gotta get

1289
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: back to the drawing board and we gotta be better

1290
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: than that. It was very disappointed. Did north Western win? Yes,

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the college all week, all by the way,

1292
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: all week young how much the team was in position

1293
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: last year? How much blame? Oh, we never blame anyone,

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: let alone like one person. You know, it was a

1295
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: collective effort. You know, we could have been on special scenes,

1296
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: could have been on defense, could have been a better

1297
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: offense as a whole. You know, injuries happened, stuff like that.

1298
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: It's just the name of the game in this league.

1299
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: But it's a team game, and UM, you can't really

1300
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: put that blame on one person. Preseason games healthy, I think, no,

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: I think he's confident. I think, um, that was probably

1302
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: a big thing that happened last year. Maybe the confidence

1303
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: waiver a little bit. But looks confident, looks healthy, looks

1304
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: like he's whipping the ball. So it's gonna be a

1305
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: challenge hit anybody. I want to say, personally, I know, Um,

1306
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: I had like a little injury. I missed the previous

1307
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: two games, but I wanted to make sure I came back,

1308
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, just to play with my guys and stuff

1309
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: like that. So I mean, it goes both ways. It's

1310
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: just the character. Mean, maybe he was hurt. We don't know.

1311
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he really couldn't play. So UM, I

1312
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: think it's just something we don't know. Honestly, very unfamiliar

1313
01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: with this team, play them, they feel that quify the

1314
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: focus at all. Maybe a tabby, but we gotta prepare

1315
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: like we always do. Um, going there and get a plan,

1316
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: buy into it, study it, study them, and go out

1317
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: there and execute at a high level. That's each and

1318
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: every week. So I wouldn't say that. You know, they

1319
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: got a good group period. They got good receivers, probably

1320
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: outstand and running back. You know, he's been dealt with injuries.

1321
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: But it's a whole group that we gotta prepare for it.

1322
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: We'll be ready. Caffrey didn't play preseason, so how do

1323
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: you project into the Oh, he has tons of tape.

1324
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that aren't just gonna go out

1325
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: there and make things up with him. You know, he

1326
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: he has things that he's really really good at. I

1327
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna shy away from those things. And

1328
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: we gotta get ready for him. But he has tons

1329
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: to say. We go watch good stuff from John Johnson

1330
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: there at the podium the how did you did? They

1331
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: were turning about McCaffrey there at the end. Did your

1332
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: draft go fall the way you liked or did it

1333
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: fall good? Or were you pleased you're doing a draft

1334
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: last night? Did you like it? Yeah? I was pleased.

1335
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough. We're playing all these with all

1336
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: these keepers. So by the time I picked ninth. It

1337
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: was pretty slim pickings. Yeah. Do you have any league

1338
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: that isn't a keeper where you restart every year? Yeah,

1339
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: that's that's nice. That's fun. Now, first round picks are

1340
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: typically off limits. They are can't be kept, So that

1341
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: keeps some of the guys up there. But you know,

1342
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: if you get somebody good in the you know, fourth

1343
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: or fifth round, like Jonathan Taylor, he'll be back in

1344
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: the draft next year because he was rookie, was draft

1345
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, and then it was kept and

1346
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: then kept. You can keep somebody twice, okay, and then

1347
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: they got to turn it over. Okay, so it's not

1348
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: like forever. Yeah, yeah, I did. How about yours? You

1349
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: were picking fifth? I was picking fifth. Um, same group

1350
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: of guys for twenty one years. Um, a bunch of

1351
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: dudes from down in Florida. Um, it was picking fifth.

1352
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: It was fine, But if I felt like it was

1353
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: one of those drafts where everybody, I know that this

1354
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: isn't true, but it feels like I would put guys

1355
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: in the queue just so i'd have a list of

1356
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: guys and if the siphon through, and it feels like

1357
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: as soon as I put him in the queue, they

1358
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: get picked, and by the time I pick Spy the

1359
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: que was empty. I mean, so it's like what happened?

1360
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: It went fine? It went fine. I used our guy,

1361
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: the Guru. I used his a lot of his advice,

1362
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: So if he knows what he's talking about, then I

1363
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: think we should be very does and I think the

1364
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: Guru does, so I think it will work out okay,

1365
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. I don't feel like it was exactly

1366
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: the way that I wanted it. Plus, I think picking

1367
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: fifth is hard. How many teams is that ten? Because

1368
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: you're right in the middle, so it's like one pick

1369
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: and then you have to wait, and then it's one

1370
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: pick and you have to wait, and it sucks. I

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: love to get it's hard because you're Yeah, I ended

1372
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: up Dalvin and Javante. I think we're my first, so

1373
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: that works out, okay, But it's you know, nothing wrong

1374
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: with that. It worked out, okay. We'll see see how

1375
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: it all goes all right, we got a little better

1376
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: or worse kind of Oh, pois Sal's joining us. Ap

1377
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: is going to join us with a little better or

1378
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: better or worse. I see if he can follow the

1379
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: rules of the game that is coming up next, you'll

1380
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: stickle the roseln Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

1381
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: It's the regular season. It's the regular season. Ronky Waits

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Speaker 1: rounkey dot com to learn more Time for a little Higher, Lower, Better,

1385
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: or worse? Anthony Poisal with us our staff writer joining

1386
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: us Gibb A is here. I like more of a

1387
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: poisel poisel? Yeah, I like likeli. I don't you try

1388
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: to pisel so like Rosel like poisel, so always l

1389
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: You're right? So what I was helping you? Does that help?

1390
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: Can you hear that? Uh? Don't you want to do

1391
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: a little test one? We can hear you. So that's

1392
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: I can't hear Gibbs as well. You don't need to

1393
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: hear Gibbs. Well he's gonna actually does you're the This

1394
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: is amazing, This is a ridiculous. How many it's the

1395
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: regular season, how many people take to turn the bike

1396
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: on to get this show going? No, no, my mic

1397
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: is on. It is now right now, it is. It

1398
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: wasn't a moment ago. I can't hear anybody through here now,

1399
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: But that's okay. Well, now you can't hear anybody. I

1400
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: can't know what about that? Now I can't there you go,

1401
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: I can hear you now gives nobody can hear gifts

1402
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: for a while anything. Stevie and Gibbs are boused over there.

1403
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: It's all up down chick. No one's got a red button,

1404
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: so nobody knows who's on the off yeasting. No, all right,

1405
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: not after this. They're like Charlotte, like you guys are

1406
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be in regular season form. I think those

1407
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: are Harrod, want to know what what am I crying about? Now?

1408
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: Were you complaining about? To sell printing? It's so hard

1409
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: to keep like here, I'm here? Where is it? What

1410
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm here? I don't know where it is? Is this

1411
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: part of initiative? A green initiative? Here at the program?

1412
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: Are we having a green initiative? The problem is we

1413
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 1: got new printers, so we did so the settings are different.

1414
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: The setting is different. So when we printed it automatically

1415
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: printed both which one is the new content content? I

1416
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know what your printer is. You still can use that,

1417
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: but I can't. Yeah, that's because you suck. See that's

1418
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: where it just gets over the line and ventures and

1419
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 1: unnecessary territory after I'd made a big stink about someone

1420
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: taking my ball and go home on air right now,

1421
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: it would be better if he if he was off, yeah,

1422
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: not on the opposite whatever, You'll be fine. Rub some

1423
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: dirt on it, people, people gets it. Pepa's angry, Get

1424
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: off my lawn. I will tell a quick story. You

1425
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: would have loved this. You would have love it. This

1426
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: is this has been right up Pepau's alley. So when

1427
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: we were at um, we were up at the lake

1428
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: in Michigan, and then Kayla's grandpa who's called Cranpa with

1429
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: a C. He lives about like fifteen minutes a further

1430
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: way out of a lake called Party Lake, but not

1431
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: p A r t y p r d e E

1432
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: because it is not a party lake. And he's been

1433
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: on the you know, the h O A of the

1434
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: lake in the past, and it was very important to

1435
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: him that there was an eight p M no wake rule. Oh,

1436
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: he doesn't want after a PM no wakes, not even

1437
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of summer. Let me just say, no

1438
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: wake is really slow, really slow, is not even trolling? Yes, yeah,

1439
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: so eight pm, no no wake early and so the

1440
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: reason I taking an hour to get across, and we

1441
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: were saying, we're like, I was like, Crampa, why why

1442
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: a p M. He's like, well, the official law in

1443
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: the state is one hour after sundown. And he said,

1444
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: so we just picked the average of that. Well, he's

1445
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: probably the average of the summer would be the average

1446
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: you're looking for, as opposed to the average of each Yes,

1447
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: but cramp is absolutely not. So guy went out there.

1448
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: We're over there having some little apps and then we'll

1449
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: just sitting hanging out and having a grand old time.

1450
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: And as soon as like some seven forty five and

1451
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: jet ski comes out and another boat comes out of

1452
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 1: speedboat comes out, and he got he's on this banox

1453
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: immediately identifying the people and why I gotta come out

1454
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: here at like a great like get off my lawn.

1455
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: And he was like he was so ready, Like we

1456
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: got two seven fifty five and the boat was still

1457
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 1: get over there. I got a nice I say, cramp,

1458
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: but they got five minutes. And by the way, in

1459
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: July it's still sun by way, of course, Yeah, but

1460
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: that means like in the peak when sundowns nine oh

1461
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: three or whatever it is there out Yeah, he was

1462
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: though he was the press, never been taken out to

1463
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: do eight o'clock, and then he told us there was

1464
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: one one time and this was So he's not a voter,

1465
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: I told he is. He likes but he goes on.

1466
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: He's not an intense boter. He goes out, he's got

1467
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: his pontoon. He likes to just putter around the round.

1468
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: So does there a morning curfew as well? Like no wake?

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Speaker 1: Before that great question? I asked the same question I said,

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01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, people, just you know common sense

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01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, which is basically nine is what do?

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Speaker 1: He says? How big is the It's big enough that

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01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: you could tube on it whatever, But it's one of

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: the many small there's a billion of these weeks in Michigan.

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01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: It's big enough that you could get out there and

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01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: do some things. It's not as big as the lake

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: that Kayla's dad's cottages on, but it's it's you could

1478
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: do whatever you want out there. You can jet ski,

1479
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: you can do you can water ski. Um. I saw.

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. And he said one time when he was

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: the president, like back in the day, because you know,

1482
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: his wife was like, just let the people have fun

1483
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: on the lake and he wanted no part of that.

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: He didn't want to hear that. He said. The one

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: time a guy violated the rules, and so I got

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: him on camera, he said. I had my old VHS.

1487
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: I videoed him, and I went to his house and

1488
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: while I videoed himself, I got a tape of you

1489
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: breaking this rule. If you're breaking again, blah blah blah

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01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: blah blah. And the guy never broke the rule again. Alight, cramp, Wow, Yeah,

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: he's a stud. Alright. I feel like if Cramper or

1492
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: whatever it is shows up at my door telling me

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: that I what do you mean you guys, it would

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01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: be what are you complaining about? Somewhere? I don't think

1495
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: trying to cramp and have those bannocks, and they're like

1496
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: the most powerful bannacks you can buy. And it was

1497
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: so powerful that you could, like, if you think about it,

1498
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: you're seeing so far across the lager, like it's right here.

1499
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: You could read the numbers on the lights. You know what?

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: You know what used to happen to this guy? Sopranos

1501
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: pull the boat up with the giant speakers and just

1502
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: start playing like Grandpa does not to be trifled, just

1503
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: like you're not. There's no way music, just a bunch

1504
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: of loud music. That was a baller move out of

1505
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: Tony noise of boys from that's right. Speaking about speakers,

1506
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: I had a speaker city teacher for a long time.

1507
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: That's great, great company. Oh man, alright, I give it?

1508
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: What printer am I supposed to print to on you?

1509
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care about your printing nets,

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01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: tire loan better, Higher Lord, this is Poisel's maiden voyage

1511
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: on higher lower there were higher Lord? Did you do that?

1512
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: This is not mine what we're going to talk about.

1513
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: This is from Dan Hansas, NFL dot com. Kids. Would

1514
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: you say Boisel is already he did? Like you did?

1515
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: Like study of this you've looked at? I did take

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: a look. Did you not know by the I think

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate research? Alright? Two quick questions. Would you say

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01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: that the number twenty is a higher number than the

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: number one? What does that mean exactly? Would you say

1520
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: that a first round pick is a better pick than

1521
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: the seventh round pick? What kind of questions are that's

1522
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: a straightforward question? Yes? Absolutely no, that's because this is

1523
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: so confusing. He wants us to all of a sudden

1524
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: say that a team that's ranked twenty is actually lower

1525
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: than a team that's ranked like third, even though twenty

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01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: is a bigger number. Right, if you're saying, I'm saying

1527
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: better or worse really simplifies everything. Are they better? Are

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01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: the Raiders better than the Bears? They higher than the Bears?

1529
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know they're in Vegas? Maybe they are?

1530
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: Carefully or this will be your first in the last

1531
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: at least right went right back. I mean it's so

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: close to it. Didn't have to specify in the email

1533
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: what higher meant exactly exactly. I mean, I think him

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: higher on the list, So I want to come back

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: on higher lower, by the way games, so keep me

1536
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: coming knows hier or lower? Dan Hansas NFL dot calm

1537
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: play the travel. I'm musing you have been. We can't

1538
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: hear it. Well, that's a shame that we can't hear it.

1539
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: Hear it, so you guys can't get on the air.

1540
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: You can't hear fashion fashion of quality right here. I mean,

1541
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: it's amazing that adding a second person into the mix

1542
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: has It's like throwing give a into complete case. He

1543
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: has more help now and now it's just you. But

1544
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't have time to write the winning mix. We're

1545
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: not writing. You're writing your winning man. Nobody asked you

1546
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: to write the winning makes by the way, Yes, really

1547
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: it's weird. Nobody asked funny? How that funny? How that

1548
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: came down? For what? It's a union, It's an unholy

1549
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: union in there. Hey, what do you think about? What about?

1550
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: What about make a long field goal? Yeah, I'm gonna write.

1551
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get something. We'll get some clicks for you.

1552
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: We'll get you, We'll get you some quicks this week.

1553
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: Blow up? Hey, I got what baby like Stevie, I

1554
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: got one score more points than the other teape can't

1555
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: lose that weight. Perfect. That's that's how this will go.

1556
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: First and foremost, Dan hansis power pull poise. Ou. We're

1557
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna start with you because my other two hosts are

1558
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: mailed in. Browns are ranked. Should they be higher, closer

1559
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: to number one, or lower closer to two? I think

1560
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: they should be closer to number one, but not by much.

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01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: I think they're better. I do. I do think they're better. Well,

1562
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: when I look at the teams that are in front

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: of them, I'm like, okay, um, I I can see

1564
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: why they're ahead of them right now. Um, I wuld

1565
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: say I bumped them up above the Steelers. Uh, and

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: then I think the teams after that. Let me pull

1567
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: it up real quick. Can you have it right here? Yes,

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: we're better there we go so like the better I

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: mean the Vikings Dolphins. I think you can make an

1570
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: argument that the Browns are still better than them, but better.

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I see why they're they're ahead of the

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01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: Browns right now. To say something is higher invokes come on, baby,

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01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: light by fire by the doors. We're better than Pittsburgh.

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01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: We're definitely better than Pittsburgh. I don't think we're slightly

1575
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: better than New England. I think were I think it's fine.

1576
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: We should be around twenty. Yeah, that's why I better

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: than the Titans. And I also think I also think

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: that you're gonna I mean, are you ready to say

1579
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: that before you've seen Jacobe in a week one or

1580
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: week two games, that that that they're better than the type. Well,

1581
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: here's the deal, though this is a arbytrary anyway, I

1582
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: think the big key to this, I'm not saying they

1583
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: won't be eventually, but like, can you say that right now?

1584
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Here's something you're gonna you're gonna see us handled this

1585
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,440
Speaker 1: way for a while and we talked about this most seriousness,

1586
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: like where the villain? So this is now. I never

1587
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: bought into that. I never bought into that. I don't

1588
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: buy into Cleveland against the World, don't buy anything. I

1589
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have are are fine and

1590
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: or indifferent or whatever. But I do think in this

1591
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: instance there is going to be a little bit of

1592
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: a villain situation. So I think we'll be at wow

1593
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: wow Wow wow wow theme as our traveling music. That

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01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: would be good because that's who we are. Number one

1595
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: is Buffalo. We've talked about Buffalo a lot here in

1596
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 1: the off season. We got a number two and the Laws, Ange, Hells,

1597
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: Rams number two, Zaga higher lower or just right. Well,

1598
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: to be the man, you gotta beat the man. They

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: are ranked number two, and I think that is I'm

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01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: fine with that for now. Somebody's got to knock them off. Well,

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01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't they be number if they gotta be knocked off? Yeah,

1602
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: but I think the Bills are number one, So I'm saying,

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: after the Bills, then the Rams and the Hill is

1604
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: one to Oh It's so hard because everywhere I've got

1605
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: this simplified, and I have it on my laptop. Al right,

1606
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: here's the deal, thank you, I've got it on my phone.

1607
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not somebody. I'm not too different. It

1608
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: always when people are like, oh, well they they're they're

1609
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: the champion until somebody beats him, like teams change, right,

1610
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: So you don't like Rick Flair. I love Rick Flair,

1611
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: but that's a little different because he's the same Rick

1612
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: Flair every time they han't. He is the man, though

1613
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: he's not thinking of other people that are have to

1614
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: also be considered a men. UM. I don't think that.

1615
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I think that this list quite frankly, if I could

1616
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: find four or five and six there it is. UM.

1617
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: I think it's really skewed NFC and I don't buy

1618
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: that at all. So I think the number one and

1619
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: then I would move some a FC teams up into this. UM.

1620
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: I do not understand why there are three and four

1621
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: NFC teams in the top six for Dan Hansas. Yeah,

1622
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: that's San Francisco three with trade. Here we go, Here

1623
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: we go. The chargers number two, rams worse chargers, better

1624
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: mark me chargers second, Big Leap eight nine. You put

1625
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: them at second right now, I think if they added

1626
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and J C. Jackson, they got Derwin James

1627
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: be healthy to that defense. So you got Mac and Vosa.

1628
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: Now you have great corners. You've got a great playmaking safety.

1629
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Like I like, I think I can actually buy on them.

1630
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: What's not the like? I think sometimes people are worried

1631
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,919
Speaker 1: about the outcome rather than the process. He's a little aggressive.

1632
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he needs to be so aggressive

1633
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: this year given the talent influx. Let's se their defense

1634
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: wasn't great and they had to try to make up

1635
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: for that. This is their defense should be great. I

1636
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: would be fine with. I don't have the problem with

1637
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: the Rams at two. I just think the other NFC

1638
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: teams are a little too many. So are we still

1639
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: in the RAMS or can we move on to three yibs.

1640
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know how this works. You do whatever you want.

1641
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Poison Well, okay, we're gonna we can we can have

1642
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: an area of the grievances that somehow the San Francisco

1643
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: number the Niners at three there was not I mean,

1644
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: that's definitely lower. In my opinion, that was the most

1645
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: shocking team on the list, considering that we haven't really

1646
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: seen a whole lot of trade lands. I'm a big

1647
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: worserer worser. Yeah, they're worserer, Nix. I don't even believe

1648
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: the Niners are lower. That's my dad. Let me scroll

1649
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: down the number seven the Kansas City. She through three pages. Yeah,

1650
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. So just so y'all

1651
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,919
Speaker 1: get it's up to speed here. Number four is Tampa Bay.

1652
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: Number five is Cincinnati. Number six is Green Bay. It

1653
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: takes us the number seven in Kansas City is a

1654
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: girl higher, lower or just right better. I think we're

1655
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: sleeping on Mahomes's greatness. I think, in fact, his greatness

1656
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: got somewhat lost a little less year in trying to

1657
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: wait for Tyree Kill, trying to make the big play

1658
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He was completing past this to everybody

1659
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: under the sun, taking what they give him. I think

1660
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be nasty. I think they've got a good

1661
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: combination of marv kez Valda. Scanty can take the top off.

1662
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: You still have Kelsey. You're bringing the juju. Sky More, Yes,

1663
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: sky more, Oh baby, I think they're gonna be pretty good.

1664
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: Higher Lord destroy I could make an argument there too.

1665
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: I could have him as high as two. Uh yeah,

1666
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: they're they're better than seven. The idea that the Packers

1667
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: are ahead of him and the come on, yeah, yeah,

1668
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm also on the higher train as well. Um. I mean,

1669
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: I do think we're sleeping on path, but I also

1670
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: think that's that's sleeping on Travis Kelsey to not be

1671
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: as good as he has been, which I know he's

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Speaker 1: getting older, but Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey, and he's been

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01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: he's been the dominant tease last few years. And then

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01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean Juju, I know he's been quiet, and the

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01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: injuries the last couple of years have really heard his production.

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01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: But his quarterback is Patrick my Homes now, and that's

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01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger. Current Patrick Mahomes is

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01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: better quarterback than Ben ever was in Juju's career. So, um,

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: and I think he's still young. I think it was

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01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: he's six years old. I mean, he's I think they

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01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: have what they need to to make up for what

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01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: they need for Tyrek, and so I would put the

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01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs at number two or number three as well. Next

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Speaker 1: final one on this Tuesday, Denverse number eight, the Chargers

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01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: number nine, number ten, Baltimore Raven Ravens higher, lower or

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01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: just right. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with just right

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01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: for now just because I think, I mean, they're gonna

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: be a really good team still, but I don't think

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01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: the teams that are in front of them, with just

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: the teams just right off the Chargers, the Bronch, like,

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I think those teams are all still better than the Ravens.

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01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I think a big I mean, the biggest question mark

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: with them obviously is just what what can they do

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01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: in the past game with the receivers they have? Uh,

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01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: I mean, are we do you really think James Prochet,

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Devin Duberne and those guys, are they going to be

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01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: able to have big years? And like they just I

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01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: don't think they've shown that. Uh they Bateman will be

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: a dude. But and I mean, I know they still

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: have Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely made a lot of

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01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: noise in the preseason, but um, it's still a big

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01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 1: question mark. And then I think, um, you know, Ronnie Stanley,

1703
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: how fast he's kind of be able to come back

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: and start the season. I think he just had his

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01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: first practice a couple of days ago. But you know

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01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: that's the offensive line was a big problem, tire lower

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01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: just right, worser. I think the Eagles are a better

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01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: version of the Ravens, same with better talent. They've got

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01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: a better offensive line. They had huge injuries. Man, it's

1710
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: not like they had Ammy's ligament tears. That's right in

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01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: a lot of places. Good job at yours. I'm looking

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01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: forward to the next time, so much more to come.

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01:28:42,479 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Brown's daily sp and Cleveland, Well,

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01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: we got a game week on our hands, my friend,

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: we have coach tomorrow. Let's go right in the one

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01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. Scores the game on Thursday. Scores are coming

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01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: out like a like a happy shiver through my so

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01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: exciting the scores. By the way, last year, folks, for

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01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: the like the twelfth conect here combined about eighty games

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01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: over five d last year for the entire yet to

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01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: run through the playoff super Bowl. You're welcome. You keep

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01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: saying it can't keep going on, and yet this is

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01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 1: clearly the year it won't. This is the year it

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01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: all falls off a cliff. No, I did the I

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01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: did the college over the weekend, eight and three out

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01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: of the gates, So why is this the year It's

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01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: falling apart. I don't know, you never know. I just

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01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: wanted to expectations medium and then blast through. Listen, we're

1729
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: either going to be very valuable as we always are,

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01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: or we're gonna be very valuable and do the opposite.

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01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: So either way you're either way you win. There's no question.

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Speaker 1: The next level is coming up next. We're back tomorrow

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01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,680
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