1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: All good. It's been going well good. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Uh, got the family up here situated, so I'm probably 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: the only person that has my phone on ring in 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: the building during the day. My wife's could be hours 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: or days away from our our son being born. So it's, uh, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: we're on we're on high alert. So she she probably 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: got us riled up about ten days too early. So 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: now it went from excitement to like, all right, like 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: when's this kid gonna get here? 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: So, but it's going good. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: Transition has been been outstanding. So what can you tell 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: us about the defensive front that you're bringing from Tennessee? 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't bring anybody from Tennessee. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Uh, but you know, I'm excited about the guys that 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: are here, you know, excited for the for the additions. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a new year, so it'll be 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: it'll be different, but definitely excited about you know what 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: what we have in the building and then obviously what 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: we added, and then you know what we'll continue to 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: do up to up to the season. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: What does Milton Williams bring to the table for you? 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: What does he allow you to to upfront? 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: I think the great thing with Milton, like he adds 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Obviously what you see on tape, like a level of 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: violence and explosiveness has an ability to affect the quarterback, 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, which is everyone kind of got to see that, 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: especially in the in the super Bowl. But you know, 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: just adds another piece for us just to you know, 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: help us play good defense, help us continue to. 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Try to. 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: Build a front and you know, limit points. So just 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: excited to have another talented piece. You mentioned violence. I 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: know that's a big, big wint role. He was philosophically, 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: what does that look like exactly on cape? You see 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: you later and you're like, that's our kind of guy 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: who plays. 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: With that Violet. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: I think violence is something that you know when you 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: see it, you know what it is if you have 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: to go in depth and describe, but it's probably not violent. 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: So you know, just again, I think we've all seen 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: stuff and football fields. You're watching MMA fights, boxing like violences, 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: violence across pretty much whatever you're watching. 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: So it's easy to uh, it's easy to see White. 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 5: I am curious what you think about him and how 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: you could see him taking a step forward in. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: The system and under the staff. 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you know he's a he's a talented player, 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: I think he's got you know, there's there's room to grow, 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: just like every player, so excited just to to get 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: him and you know, between the defensive staff, just let 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: him do the things that he he does well. Let 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: all these guys you know, play fast, play aggressive, and 54 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, make sure we're doing everything to help the 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: team and then continue to help the players. 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: Have you been involved in all in helping scout some 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: of the prospects and if so, your take on Mason Graham. 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of a franchise wide process. Everyone's 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: got their piece. You know, we we scout all different players, 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: so you know, I think the class as a whole, 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: there's you know, definitely things that can help help teams improve. 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Making sure man. 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: You know, so again, I think there's multiple players that 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: can can help all different teams. You know, every guy's 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: a little bit different, so you know, I prefer to 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: talk about the guys that are that are here, but 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: definitely I think there's a there's a lot of good 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: front players in this class and you. 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: And you're getting back to the violence element. You're looking 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: for that violence factor in some if if you were 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: to draft one of these prospects. 72 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to think that, you know, for for 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: me my process, I want to evaluate guys we bring 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: in the same way it is with free agents, like 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't think get For me, it doesn't look any 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: different if I guy coming out of college a free agent, 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: like we want the they're all evaluated the same to me. 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: One young guy who was here last year, cable on 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: kind of waiting was truly jokes from Harvard. 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 6: I know you have to be able to work with that. Yeah, 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 6: but what do you know or what are you seeing 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: frog him on Hilm or anything like that? 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Uh, I mean just kind of what's on tape. 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when when the guys get here 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: for that voluntary portion, the guys that you know will 86 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: voluntarily be here, I'll kind of get to you know, 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't really like to judge until I have my 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: own information on on any player. You know, if he's 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: in the building, we're excited to have him. 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Truth already, But how do you see it putting him 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: of this defense? Uh? 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Again, I think you know, he's a player that's gonna 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: help us try to do what all these players do, 94 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: try to help us win games. But you know, I 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: think he's again he has an ability to affect the quarterback. 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: There's a level of violence he plays with he you know, 97 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: we're going to need you to do multiple things here. 98 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: It's not just about doing one thing. Well, we're gonna again, 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: I want to limit points, stop the run, affect quarterbacks, 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, the same thing. 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Every player is going to do. 102 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: They want to help us, you know, build a good 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: defense and win football games. 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: Have you spent any time yet with Christian Barmore. I 105 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: know he's been in the building, but have you been 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: able to kind of say hello and see how he's doing. 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a conversation the other day, spoke on 108 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: the phone. Also, Like you know, I'm definitely excited to 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: just to get around him. And again, like we've had 110 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: limited interaction, but for sure in the small amount of 111 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: time that we've been together, great personality. Look forward to 112 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: to getting around him and you know, just continue to 113 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: build that room up. 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: O believe. 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Obviously he's been here, been a productive player, and you 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: know we want to continue to build on his on 117 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: his development, no problem, you bet. 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 7: Yeah. 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 8: I mean my first thought is that we I don't 120 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 8: think any of us I haven't been in the league 121 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 8: that long, but that anyone that has has seen someone 122 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 8: that does something like this at that level, both college 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 8: level and at the level we perform, to me, it's you. 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: You're taking. 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 8: Whoever takes him is taking a guy that can do 126 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 8: things that you can't coach. But then when you do 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 8: have him, now it's how do I best coach him 128 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 8: to do something that he's only minor in. And I 129 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 8: think at that point that's when you really start to 130 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 8: get a feel for it. Here's what his ceiling could be. 131 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 8: And if you feel like his ceiling is not quite 132 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 8: as high at one position and you have the luxury 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 8: of taking a look at another one. 134 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 9: Yesterday, Todd Downing, we asked him sort of a similar question. 135 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: He said, well, you know, as receivers coach, I would 136 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: fight for him to get him in my meeting. So 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: that a cornerback coach, is that something that you would 138 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: do as well? 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 6: You try to, like, you know, fight for the player 140 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 6: to get him in your meetings, get your practice reps. 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 8: I think Springer just left. He fights for him to 142 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 8: be a kicker. So everything I've heard is scene I 143 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 8: think for sure. I mean, he makes your team or 144 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 8: whatever team he goes to better. And when you see 145 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 8: a guy that has the traits that he has, has 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 8: the boss skills, has the speed, has the movement ability, 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 8: you especially coaching wide receivers and coaching dbs, you feel 148 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 8: like this guy could help us. 149 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: So for sure that yeah, what do you think about that? 150 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 8: Just that combination of Christian Gonzalez and a cornerback of 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 8: Carlton David. 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: So what can you bring well? 153 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 8: I mean, I think you have two guys that are 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 8: both at different points in their careers, but both very 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 8: similar physically. You know, in Carlton's case, a guy that's 156 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 8: been doing it for a little while now, and in 157 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 8: Gonzo's case, you know a guy that has he kind 158 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 8: of took the world. 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: By storing a little bit this past year from Afar. 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 8: But both guys that every day they can come in 161 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 8: and work on things to get better. And I think 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 8: the hope is in Carlton's case and it always helps 163 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 8: when I think, probably in anything when you're talking about 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 8: talent acquisition, when you've got somebody in the building that 165 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 8: has been with the player in this case that you're 166 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 8: talking about with Big T in Detroit, you hope that 167 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 8: some of the veteran aspect will rub off in terms 168 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 8: of the things he's seen, the things that he's done 169 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 8: to help Gonzo. And then in both cases it's the 170 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 8: expectation is that they come in and they do everything 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 8: they can do when they're in this building to help 172 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 8: us win games. If they can do that and get 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 8: that part done, then they help us. 174 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 10: With Marcus Johnson always kind of a unique player, plays 175 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 10: on offense, plays on defense, special teams, but. 176 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: Could you see him being a fit for what this 177 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: team is looking for in nicole cornerback. 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 8: I think Marcus is not the same as Travis Hunter, 179 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 8: but you can see a lot of similarities in that way. 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 8: I do think that he's a good fit for He's 181 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 8: a fit for us in the dB room. You know, 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 8: in my conversations with him, it's been a young man 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 8: that has an older soul and very mature and communicates 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 8: really well. Watching his tape, saw a more physical player 185 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 8: than I expected to see in the tape that I saw. 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 8: And then obviously I knew coming from being an indie 187 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 8: having played late in the year up here that I'm 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 8: telling the coordinator on the heads twenty fives in the 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 8: game and we're coaching on defense, So to know what 190 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 8: he can do with his hands on the football in 191 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 8: the return game. 192 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 4: I think he's just an asset for a football team. 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 8: And I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from 194 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 8: last year's film when I watched him play at Nickel 195 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 8: and that corner. 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 7: How big of a realized Mike Creable played in your career. 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 7: And you know, I'm excited you just to join this staff. 198 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Up here in one league. 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 8: The thing that probably I don't know how much it's 200 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 8: gotten talked about or will, but Graves hired me. I'd 201 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 8: come out of college, and I took a year off 202 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 8: and I did an internship with them in Tennessee, and 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 8: then I took the twenty two season off. He hired 204 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 8: me when I was at home being dad and husband. 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 8: So I'm forever grateful for that. And then really from 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 8: day one in the internship and from the entire twenty 207 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 8: three season in Tennessee, rarely a time that he speaks 208 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 8: that me personally, I don't feel like I learned something 209 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 8: or take something away from that. So I'm certainly grateful 210 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 8: for the opportunity. 211 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: To be here. 212 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 8: I believe in him, believing the people that he believes in, 213 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 8: and you know, I'm looking forward to seeing what we 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 8: can do here. 215 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much. 216 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 8: Sure to a quick question of your history in the past, 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 8: So you're to say this that a really fast opinion. 218 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: So what's special movie? You're thinking? 219 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 8: That's funny because if you ask my wife, it's been 220 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 8: a long ascension. 221 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: It's not been a quick ascension. 222 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 8: We there were times in the early twenty tens that actually, 223 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 8: for most of that decade that I was working for 224 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: not making a lot of money, spent a lot of 225 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 8: hours doing it just at schools that people had never 226 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 8: really heard of unless you were from Virginia. But since then, 227 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 8: I've been fortunate to be with really good people, been. 228 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: Fortunate to really just have a lot of mentors. 229 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 8: Not from the standpoint of they called me a mentee, 230 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 8: I called them a mentor, but just being able to 231 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 8: observe people, seeing things. 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: Done and what I thought was the right way, or. 233 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 8: In some cases seeing okay, maybe I would do that 234 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 8: a little different based on the situation of the personality. 235 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: But ultimately, you know, I've just been blessed with favor 236 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: to be. 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 8: Honest with you, I mean, I haven't in my mind, 238 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 8: I've just tried to do my job the best that 239 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 8: I could. 240 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: There's nothing special about. 241 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 8: Me, but that's where I think the favor comes in, 242 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 8: and just been fortunate to get some good opportunities. 243 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Well that's quite quick thing. 244 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 8: That's a high ceiling, a guy that has potential and 245 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 8: is really just scratching the surface. I mean, I was 246 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 8: impressed with really and when you watch the silent tape 247 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 8: you can't tell this, but it seemed to me as 248 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 8: a player that knew not only what he was doing, 249 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 8: but how the other team was trying to attack him, 250 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 8: and then played with a level of maturity that again 251 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 8: it's you can't really gauge that, but his footwork was efficient, 252 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 8: his movement skills were efficient. 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: He was never rushed or in a hurry. 254 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 8: He was moving at a pace that tells me based 255 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 8: off of that that he understands what he's looking at 256 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 8: and what it means to him. But you know, again 257 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 8: a guy that's younger, earlier in his career that the 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 8: jury is still out, but I was very encouraged by 259 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 8: what I've seen and gotten to know from him to 260 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 8: this point. 261 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 6: I think when when Vrabel was introducing Carlton Davis, he 262 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: kind of said that, you know, played cat coverage with 263 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 6: Gonzo and Davis, and I'm just curious, you know, those 264 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 6: conversations about being a little bit more man to man 265 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 6: heavy with having two guys like that that can do 266 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: that at a high level. 267 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that part. The last thing you said 268 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 8: about having two guys that can do that at a 269 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 8: high level, That to me is that's encouraging in that way. 270 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 8: It's a man coverage league. We know that even if 271 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 8: you playing zone coverage, at the end of the day, 272 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 8: you're gonna have to make the fifty to fifty play 273 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 8: and guys get. 274 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: Paid well to do that. 275 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 8: But it's where offensive gotten so smart is they never 276 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 8: snapped the ball and what they broke the huddle in 277 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: so to be able to play cat coverage is great. 278 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 8: Everybody's looking for those guys. But at the same time, 279 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 8: you have to have flexibility and multiplicity because you can't 280 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 8: just say, hey, go cover this guy. And sometimes you 281 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 8: could do that, but with motions and everything that can happen. 282 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 8: It's not feak set ball snapped. I'm doing what I 283 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 8: practiced all week. So to me, guys have to have versatility, 284 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 8: have to be able to do multiple things. 285 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: But when you know that you've got to line up 286 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: and make a play. 287 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 8: It is comforting to know that you've got guys that, 288 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 8: in Carlton's case, have proven for almost a decade that 289 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 8: he can do that and do it well, and in 290 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 8: Gonzo's case, has proven really over the course of this 291 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 8: past year, but parts of his rookie year that you feel. 292 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: Confident about that. 293 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 8: I know when I watched to take the thing that 294 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 8: out to me the most was last year's staff believed 295 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 8: in man cover situations, go to the best guy, and 296 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 8: that spoke volumes about how they. 297 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: Felt about him, which is also encouraging. 298 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: I know you haven't had him on the field, but 299 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm just curious how you feel about your collection or 300 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: the collection of cornerbacks in the room. 301 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 8: Honestly, I feel kind of like how they should probably 302 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 8: feel about me. Where it's a group of guys that, 303 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 8: for the most part are younger and early in their careers. 304 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 8: Me I'm not young, but in the NFL standard, this 305 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 8: is my going on my third year. But guys that 306 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 8: are hungry, guys that are eager guys that are willing 307 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 8: to learn, and from every guy that I've talked to, 308 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 8: a guy that it's very important to them to protect 309 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 8: the bond and camaraderie within the team that the DBS have. 310 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: Had to this point. 311 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 8: So that's something that stood out because that's been a 312 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 8: common thing amongst the guys that I've spoken to, which 313 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 8: is encouraging because in those situations, those environments, hopefully what 314 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 8: you want is that everybody. 315 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: Pushes or pulls someone else and that. 316 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 8: One success is shares success, and then you now are 317 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 8: able to challenge each other in ways that aren't confrontational. 318 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 8: They're about rising the tides so that all the boats rise. 319 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: Just generally. How do you see the slot position in 320 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: the NFL right now? I know there's smaller guys, there's 321 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: bigger slots. There's different philosophies on that. How do you 322 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: see that position involving right now in the NFL? 323 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 8: You mean slot receiver, yeah, or the slot course, slot corner. 324 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 8: I see it very much like the slot receiver. It's 325 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 8: it comes in all shapes and sizes. To me, there's 326 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 8: significant difference from a corner perspective. Looking at the game 327 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 8: from an outside in everything's inside of me versus at 328 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 8: the slot corner spot where there's action on both sides. 329 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 8: That's an intangible thing that is super different, and then 330 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 8: you have, in my opinion, the two hardest things to 331 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 8: coach are coordination and instincts. The coordination piece that's at 332 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 8: any position, but the instincts element, that's the instincts that 333 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 8: are involved. 334 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: It's much easier. 335 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 8: In my experience, it's been more what did you see 336 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 8: that allows you to do more so than me saying 337 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 8: if you'll see this, you'll be able to do that. 338 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 8: So I think that it's based on what type of 339 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 8: offense you're playing, based on do you want to be 340 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 8: in a nickel defense versus bigger personnel on offense or 341 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 8: is it a pass only. You could have multiple guys 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 8: do it, but it's not a one size fits all 343 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 8: position and it's a difficult position to play. But once again, 344 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 8: if you have guys with instincts, then usually the body 345 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 8: type is not as important. The coverage skills are, but 346 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 8: the instincts are where the difference lies. 347 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: In my opinion, is becoming more. I think you're kind 348 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: of saying it's a little bit more. You need versatility 349 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: out of everybody to kind of do everything. 350 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 8: Do you still see that though, as being multi safeties 351 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 8: on the field and trying to get guys on the 352 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 8: field that way. 353 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 11: Well, I always say, as a safetiest coach, you'd like 354 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 11: to have as many guys on the field as possible, right, 355 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 11: And so you definitely like the position flexibility. 356 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: So we have a. 357 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 11: dB room obviously with the safeties, the corners and nickels, 358 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 11: and then we get more specific with you know, safeties, 359 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 11: corners and nickels, but we also have linebackers potentially on 360 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 11: third down, situational football, all that type stuff. So again, 361 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 11: guys understanding the holistic defense, right and understanding how each 362 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 11: position you know works together and how what you're doing 363 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 11: affects the other guy really helps in that learning of 364 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 11: multiple positions, multiple positions. So you know, I think to 365 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 11: answer your question, I think, yeah, you want versatility within 366 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 11: the safety position, like being able to play high being 367 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 11: there playing in the box, but you also want versatility 368 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 11: position by position. So a guy that can potentially play 369 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 11: safety but also can play nickel, a guy that can 370 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 11: play safety but also come down and play linebacker on 371 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 11: third down. We're looking for those guys, and you know, 372 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 11: it starts building the foundation of our old defense. 373 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: You might have been answering your question about Mapu. 374 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if You've been asked. 375 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: About Peppers, but just you know, Gabrell, tough year for 376 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: him last year, never really got back on track. 377 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: But what do you see from him and what does 378 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 4: he bring down on tape when you watch him? 379 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 11: So when you talk about tough year, the good thing 380 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 11: I talked with someone else about I think was MAFU. 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 11: But just kind of everyone has clean slate, right, and 382 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 11: so we're coming in with clean eyes. So when you're 383 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 11: evaluating Pep, the first thing is that he's a veteran. 384 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 11: He's been in multiple systems, he's been productive in multiple systems, 385 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 11: and you've seen him do kind of some virtual things 386 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 11: throughout his career, you know, coming from Michigan, playing closer 387 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 11: to the Boss, playing some nickel, playing deep in the secondary, 388 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 11: all that type stuff. So, like it's exciting to have 389 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 11: a guy that's been in multiple systems, has had a 390 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 11: career that he knows how to be a pro, and 391 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 11: so that's exciting. When you watch his tape, the first 392 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 11: thing that jumps out is violence, Right, he is a 393 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 11: violent dB. And you know in today's age where you 394 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 11: can hit wide receivers and when you can't, like you know, 395 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 11: you don't see as much violence as you may have 396 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 11: seen twenty years ago from DB's and from Safeties, and 397 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 11: so love that violence from him. And you know, so 398 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 11: that's one thing that sticks out also, like I just said, 399 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 11: it's versatility. You know, he played multiple positions lad last year, 400 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 11: in his and in his past. So just excited to 401 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 11: get him here, excited to talk talk to him, and 402 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 11: decided to teach him kind of our defense. 403 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's appreciate it more for me. 404 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 10: I know, Evan Ashtley about Carlton and Gonzo, two guys 405 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 10: who've shown they can they can lock somebody up on 406 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 10: or take them away. 407 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: What kind of a luxury is that for you? 408 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 10: And how does that allow you maybe more maneuverability, more 409 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 10: flexibility in terms of what you're doing, or does it 410 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 10: in some ways kind of limit you know, what you 411 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 10: ask those guys to do just because they know they're 412 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 10: gonna take that guy away that guy way. 413 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: That makes sense, No, it does. 414 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 11: And so what I say to that is that those 415 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 11: guys have shown on their film. Obviously, like everybody sees 416 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 11: them as lockdown corners May and the Man, but really 417 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 11: when you actually watch and study of the film, those 418 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 11: guys have been proficient in more than just playing man, right. 419 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 11: And so moving forward, like I've said, our defensive structure 420 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 11: and our back seven structure is multiple coverages, right, So 421 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 11: we are going to play multiple coverages with those guys 422 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 11: and utilize their strengths, but within our coverages, right. So 423 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 11: you're going to see man for sure, and that's exciting 424 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 11: to have those two guys being able to lock down 425 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 11: that cat and lock down that cat. But we're also 426 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 11: going to have situations where they're playing zone coverage and 427 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 11: they're have vision on the quarterback. That's whenever you can 428 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 11: get ball disruptions and interceptions when you have the vision 429 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 11: on the quarterback and you can break on the ball. 430 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: So we're excited about that too. 431 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 11: Those longer guys that are able to okay a seven 432 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 11: route going over their head. Yeah, the quarterback may think 433 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 11: he can stick that in there, but you got versatil 434 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 11: you got six to one long arms and you're making 435 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 11: a play a ball in the air or a thirds 436 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 11: corner overlapping on a seam route right and being able 437 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 11: to make a play on the ball there. So I 438 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 11: think there's going to be a lot of multiple coverages 439 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 11: that you'll see. And Yep, we're excited about their man covers, 440 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 11: but we're also excited about. 441 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: The other things that they can do as well. 442 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 10: Well, one more for you, I'm sorry, Yeah, Terrell. Tell 443 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 10: us about Terrell, what it was like to work with 444 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 10: him and now him being elevated to coordinating. 445 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 446 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, I've known Terrell since two thousand and four, so 447 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 11: he was coaching at Akron University and I was coaching 448 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 11: him AMA out of Kent State University, and so we've 449 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 11: known each other for over twenty years. And you know, 450 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 11: he to see him, you know, obviously be a D 451 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 11: line coach for all of his time that I've known him, 452 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 11: and now being able to be the defensive coordinator, it's awesome, 453 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 11: you know, for me to see a guy that I've 454 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 11: known him for over twenty years work his way up 455 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 11: through this profession. 456 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Right, he was at Akron University, Purdue. 457 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 11: Texas, A and m went to the NFL three teams 458 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 11: in the NFL or four I'm sorry, and now has 459 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 11: his opportunity as a coordinator. I'm excited for him, you know. 460 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 11: It's kind of cool. Also me on the staff where 461 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 11: we were in Tennessee, right, we were on the staff 462 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 11: position coaches Braves elevates him to the coordinator. That's cool too, 463 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 11: just as far as you see him the head coach 464 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 11: being able to see talent within his coaching staff, right 465 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 11: and being able like yep, you know, I identify that 466 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 11: and wanted to make you know, guy be elevated. So 467 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 11: I think that's all of that's cool. Super excited for Terrell. 468 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 11: Really feel like he, you know, is the guy that 469 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 11: you know, I'm excited to be, uh, you know under 470 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 11: as the coordinator, Scott. 471 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. 472 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been like working on being back here with 473 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 7: you know, I know you're familiar with some of these 474 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 7: guys here. 475 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's good. 476 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 9: Well, I say, first, like, my brother lives here, so 477 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 9: that was what's your brother do here? He is a 478 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 9: landscape architect, so my brother and my sister in law 479 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 9: he actually so he went to school in New York. 480 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: That's where they met. They got married a Brooklyn she's 481 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. 482 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 9: And then like in the middle of his career, he's like, 483 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 9: you know what, I want to go back to school, 484 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 9: and he got accepted at Harvard for grad school and 485 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 9: like just completely changed fields and did landscape architecture and 486 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 9: then she got a job at mass Gen Right. 487 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: So they've been here ever since. I just had a 488 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: new nephew born sin. 489 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 9: My other brother now happens to live in like New Haven, 490 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 9: so he's like two hours away. Yeah, but we're from Florida, Ohio, 491 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 9: living in Florida, living in Florida. So now the eight though, 492 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 9: this is like the first time Northeastern family. 493 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, weird. I mean that's that's great though. Yeah, that's 494 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: wild o. 495 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: Our parents close by enough there. 496 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 9: So they are in Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Okay, I'll go back 497 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 9: all the time. They're they've been living up here way 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 9: like in the New York Connecticut. 499 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Got she's there, so they're they're here. That's awesome. Though. 500 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: You got a little you got a little ecosystem, Yeah, yeah, 501 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: for sure, A bunch of course. Yeah, hanging out a 502 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: bunch of that's true. That's great. 503 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 504 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 7: So what made you excited about coming in and taking 505 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 7: this this shot? 506 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, aside from knowing people that yeah, I mean that's 507 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: that's the big thing. Was like Frames and Terrell. Yeah, 508 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: I love them, like. 509 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 5: They do ship excuse the language, they do stuff the 510 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: right way, and you know, like the opportunity for my 511 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 5: career as well, get back to like running my own 512 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 5: room again, like back when. 513 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 9: He's doing college. But I just know, like the way 514 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 9: Rapes does stuff in at least in my opinion, it's 515 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 9: the right way. And yeah, like I you know, it's 516 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 9: good knowing like every day you feel comfortable in his 517 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 9: hands and like, Okay, where we're doing today is it's 518 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 9: gonna take us another. 519 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 7: Step to where we want to go. What's your relationship 520 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 7: with with Terrell? We don't know a whole lot about Torell. 521 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 7: I know he's not here today, we can't talk to 522 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 7: him today. But somebody who knows him, what can you 523 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 7: tell us about him? 524 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh, he's just he's the best, Like. 525 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 9: Smart as hell, he's probably like he's truly probably one. 526 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: Of the best guys ever seen. 527 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 9: Like to be able to make connections and relationships with guys. 528 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: It's just crazy. 529 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 9: Anybody like who spends a year with Torell's now like, dude, 530 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 9: Torell's on my face or people of all time. Yeah, 531 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 9: you know, he's he's just he's smart, personable, it's a funny. 532 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah. 533 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 9: Uh, he's just like a perfect blend and like coach 534 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 9: is hard, but he's one of those guys like I 535 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 9: truly can coach hard and the players like don't blink 536 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 9: it on because they love them. 537 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, they connect with him. 538 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 7: How important is that not only for the coach to player, 539 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 7: but like coach to coach or coordinator to coach, you know, 540 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 7: like to have that. 541 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, you're like just way more in tune now, and 542 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 9: like you know, there's times. 543 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I've seen it before. 544 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 9: Maybe like you said, like coordinator to coach they might 545 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 9: have a great relationship or coach a player Like how 546 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 9: how how truly invested is that person really listening to 547 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 9: what the direction he's getting whereas like truly, like especially 548 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 9: with t like you want him to be successful, Like, hey, bro, 549 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 9: what am I gonna do to help you out? Like 550 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 9: I think his players have always been like that. He's 551 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 9: just great at building those types relationships, Like that's like 552 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 9: a superpower of his. 553 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: I think the comments that he had he did an 554 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: interview like with. 555 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: The team media oh and and said something. 556 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 9: About you know, like we want to have like a 557 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 9: violent defense like it used to word violent. 558 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like how do you see this? 559 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 12: It does feel like you know where people that have 560 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 12: covered the team for well, we're seeing like a scheme 561 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 12: change for you know, a shift in some ways you know, 562 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 12: used to see for instance, like big line like two 563 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 12: hundred and fifty pound linebackers and like getting downhill and 564 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 12: like and now it looks like, you know, there's a 565 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 12: there's a whole new linebacker group almost. 566 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: And a little bit different type of player there. 567 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 7: So I guess what should we expect in terms of 568 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 7: like what you guys want to do defensively and how 569 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: your your position group kind of fits into that. 570 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think any style of like we've 571 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 9: been a part of, like the unwavering violence is a 572 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 9: huge part of that. I don't think like size so much. 573 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 9: Like if you're you know, six foot three, two hundred 574 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 9: and fifty pounds and you're doing like that unwavering violence, 575 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 9: you know attribute at that position, it could be the 576 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 9: same from like a five foot eleven, two hundred and twenty 577 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 9: pound guy. It's just I'm a firm believer, like you know, 578 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 9: your actions speak for everything. So yeah, like being aggressive, 579 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 9: being violent, like not turning down blocks, you know, having 580 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 9: like a good toolbox of tools to defeat the offensive player. 581 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 9: But it's not just like always finesse and there's some physicality, 582 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 9: there's some violence. 583 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're We're huge into guys that don't 584 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: mind playing violent football, you know what I mean. 585 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 9: I don't think there's you can't really just like pinpoint. Okay, Well, 586 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 9: like the linebacker we want, he's gotta be you know, 587 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 9: six foot two twenty and be able to run like 588 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 9: a four to four. It's like no, I mean, like, shoot, 589 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 9: we had guys in uh in Tennessee, like like you know, 590 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 9: Jack Gibbons, we had in Tennessee. 591 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. 592 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 9: I don't know for a fact what the forty was, 593 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 9: but it wasn't four, right, I'll tell you that. But 594 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 9: plays with violence smart, you know, a great communicators, a 595 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 9: lot of stuff that you might not you know as 596 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 9: a fan. 597 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: Like truly see like the. 598 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 9: The tangible or the physicality or the like the physical 599 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 9: size and whatnot. So I wouldn't like pigeonhole somebody just 600 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 9: based off of the measurables. 601 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 7: More play style, Yeah like that, it is like yeah 602 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: a hole a physical hold. 603 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah I would say that, yeah for sure. 604 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of guys come over here from Tennessee. 605 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: What's my careerble mean to you in your career and 606 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: how excited you to work with. 607 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: Very grateful for Braves. 608 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 9: Gave me my first oper tunity in the NFL. 609 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 610 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 9: We were actually my first year together with him. I 611 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 9: was a student assistant. It was his first year coaching 612 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 9: at Hio State, and very grateful that. You know, he 613 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 9: remembered me years later when he hired me in Tennessee, 614 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 9: and I was willing to take anything. It was the 615 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 9: first time went in the defense and it just him 616 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 9: give me the opportunity and kind of help, along with 617 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 9: a bunch of other people there, you know, Terrell, Shane Bowen, 618 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 9: a bunch of those guys like grooming me defensively and 619 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 9: I just took and ran with it, and forever grateful 620 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 9: for Grapes give me that first opportunity. 621 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Glad to be back with him. 622 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: Do I understand? Do you have a relationship with Stretch? Stretch? Yeah, 623 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: you guys are really close, right. 624 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: And multiple multiple multiple stops together. 625 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 9: Ohio State, James Madison, Texas State, Yes, read uh yeah, 626 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 9: Tennessee and here. 627 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: Was number five. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys meet each 628 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: other at Ohio State? We did? 629 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 630 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 631 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 9: I was a student assistant coach and he was an 632 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 9: equipment manager who became like the next year a student 633 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 9: assistant coach. 634 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's my guy. 635 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 7: Do you ever think when you're student assistants or you're 636 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 7: at Texas State that like you're gonna end up having 637 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 7: prominent roles with the NFL teams pretty soon? 638 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: We were students at Ohio State but. 639 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 9: Then but then Texas State later, like never, And it's 640 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 9: wild how this stuff just like falls into place like that, 641 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 9: like wow, Like I don't think, honestly, I don't think 642 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 9: I was even I think I was like a down 643 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 9: the line higher at James Madison how it worked out, 644 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 9: And I don't think I was at Old Dominion at 645 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 9: the time, and I don't know if I was even 646 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 9: gonna go to Jamie next thing, you know, we do 647 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 9: all reconnect next you know, it turns into five stops, 648 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 9: which is really. 649 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: Rare in this business. So totally, Yeah, what what can 650 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: you tell us about about him? And just like what 651 00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: he'll bring to the team. 652 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 9: You know, we've seen him around with with Rabel and yeah, 653 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 9: I mean it seems like he's a pretty important guy 654 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 9: in the overall operation. This is funny because like the 655 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 9: guys of the Giants used to make fun of me 656 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 9: because I talked about stretch a lot of the Giants. 657 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: The dude does like everything. 658 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like even I have a different perspective too, because 659 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 9: I was with him when he was like a DFO 660 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 9: in college and he did everything. 661 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Was DFO for director of football. 662 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 9: Okay, gotcha, gotcha, But it was like he wore he 663 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 9: wore like twelve different hats. And then you know, when 664 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 9: you get into the pros, like you don't have the 665 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 9: academics all that stuff and have to do that, and 666 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 9: he's not the DFO, so he's not like, you know, 667 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 9: planning the travel on stuff. But still sure enough, Like 668 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 9: halfway through my first year and the Titans, I realized, oh, 669 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 9: Stretch still wears like twelve different hats, like like he 670 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 9: goes searching for hats to wear, and he's like his. 671 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: His guy, I don't know the world I'm looking for it. 672 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 9: But like the fact that with football knowledge and personnel 673 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 9: knowledge and like logistical knowledge and like setting up practices 674 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 9: and so it was almost like anything you talk about, 675 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 9: you feel like Stretch somehow is tied into that. 676 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: So he's he's he's kind of uh, kind of kissing 677 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: his kind He's kind. 678 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 9: Of a remarkable dude, like a glue guy, kind of 679 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 9: like connecting maybe different parts of Oh absolutely operation, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 680 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 9: Like everybody knows him for a reason because he somehow 681 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 9: helps and everything. 682 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: How important is it to have like guys that you 683 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: have good relationships with like. 684 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: That, Like it sounds like between Terrell and Stretch and 685 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: it just feels like, you know what you're talking about 686 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: these guys. 687 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 7: It makes it seem like they're they're easy people to 688 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 7: be around too, which I imagine has to be helpful 689 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 7: when you're spend as much time as you're spending at work. 690 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: It makes the work day, it just goes so much easier. 691 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 9: Like when you have that relationship with guys and like 692 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 9: rapes at grade job bringing good dudes on it. I mean, 693 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 9: that's I would I would have to guess, like that's 694 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 9: probably one of the top qualities I'm being on this 695 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 9: staff is like being a good dude. 696 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: And you can see it, like. 697 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 9: From day one, even for the guys like I don't know, 698 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 9: like mesh really well with you know, like never really 699 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 9: met Josh or TV or or Doug Maron before hearing 700 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 9: meshing well with all those guys. But obviously when you 701 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 9: have guys you have relationships before, already they're good relationships. 702 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 9: It makes it coming to work fun. It's it's it's 703 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 9: good flow. Stuff gets done like you don't have a 704 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 9: lot of hang ups. It's good that we all came 705 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 9: from different spots and now different ideas get put out 706 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 9: there too, and it's good. It's gonna have like this 707 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 9: little mini reunion. 708 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 4: Should I'll let you go. 709 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, no worries, Yeah, too much more but really nice 710 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: to meet you. Yeah, I appreciate it.