1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hey Christie, Hey will I don't often tell people this, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it to you. You're a vision 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: in pink. I don't know what else to tell you. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're a vision in pink. Some people 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: can't pull off pink and think, well, black works for everybody. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Pink doesn't work for everybody, but black works for you. Well, 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: because you're Batman. So oh, I thought you're going to say, 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: because you're fat, and we want to make sure that 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: you don't look too big, so we we cover you 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: in black. You are not. It's very sweet though for 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: you to not think that. But you are your vision 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: in pink. That's all I have to say. That's hashtag. 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: You know you pop? You pop, Christie. That's what it is. 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: One needs to pop. I'm very excited for today's guests 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: because we have a serious history with today's guests, don't we. Yeah. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Steve Loader, he is a huge animation director. In his 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: titles include Kim Possible. As of season two, he really 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: saw so much of Kim Possible, like growth that we're 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: going to chat with him all about just It's a 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: reunion of sorts, isn't it? Yeah? It is? And the 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: thing that's cool is and you really brought this up. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you did. During the interview about everyone's 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: gonna be like but we had the director, you know, 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Lisa Shaeffer came on. It's like, no, no, no no, there's 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: multiple directors that are involved in an animation project, and 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: so I was really glad that you you brought that 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: up because there's a big difference we did. Steve was 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: a director and Lisa was a director. Two completely different 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: jobs but really interesting in both amazingly necessary. So I 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: was very excited to talk to Steve. It's a cool episode, 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: it really is. So everybody, Steve Loder, stay, how are 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: you well? How are you guys doing? I was fine 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: until my computer decided to not be good anymore. Um Man, 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: computers are the worst. Terminator is a thing that could happen. 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't like any of it. You don't trust it. 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't trust that. I don't. I don't. I've been 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: watching alone, and I think that's the way to go. 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: The more I'm thinking about it, Loan, is that is 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: that is that contest where you go out in the 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: middle of the woods and try to live right? Yeah, 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: watched that. We watched that. Yeah, my my my wife. 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: My wife jokes that I would tap out on the 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: boat ride there one thousand percent thousand. I think that 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, Steve, it is a really 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: great show. But it's also you get to root for 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: people to like, Who's who are you rooting for? On alone? 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the mostly for the animals, but that's 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: just me. How are you, Steve? Thank you, Welcome to 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: the show. This is awesome. Yeah, I'm honored to be 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: his is incredible. We're so excited to have you here 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: because we have quite a hist Can you remember the 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: first time that we all work together? Was it two 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: thousand two? Yeah, somewhere in that zone. Yeah, so twenty 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: so we're twenty years Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. We should 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: probably introduce Steve, shouldn't we? I'm sorry, should be and Steve. 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: We are so happy to have Steve Loder here with us, 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: who's a director and a producer of animation, of all 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: types of animation. But really it should be most known 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: for Kim Possible, because that's where we know him from. 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: So that's really the only world we need to talk about. 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: But that's actually not true because we're talking American Dragging, 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Jake Long, Brandy and Mr Whiskers, the Tinkerbell film series, 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: The Ghost and Molly McGee Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: which is both upcoming that's February three. We'll get into 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff. But let's be honest, Steve. 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: It's Kim Possible, That's what we're talking about. Kim Possible 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: has been in my life, not only during production but 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: even past it. Um, because I'm I'm a comic book geek, 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,279 Speaker 1: I'm a film nerd, so I go to the conventions 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot. There's always a Kim cost player, always, always right, 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: always yeah. And it's amazing because yeah, it's it's the 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: legacy just continues. I mean it really people really love 73 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: the show and it's just really wonderful feeling. How did 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: you get involved with it? Yeah? You know. The funny 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: thing is I joined second season, um, and since then, 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: I've I've done fifty plus episodes of Kim I think 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I've expised Mark and Bob. I think I've probably been 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: on at the longest and you guys, so yeah, it's 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: it's it's been an amazing ride. But yeah, it was 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: slightly intimidating kind of coming on board because the reputation 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: was already there, the fandom was already starting to build. 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: So it was a little intimidating, but it was what 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: a what a marvelous feeling to, you know, to to 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: work on this amazing show. Well, now see, but let's 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: talk about like your exact job too, because we had 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Lisa Shaper talk to us a lot in studio and 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: then what exactly is it that you then did for 88 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: people to understand how you direct an animated show? Yeah, so, 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: so pretty much director of animated show is it's kind 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of involved in the beginning. So we, uh, we look 91 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: at this scripts. You read the scripts that that Mark 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: and Bob and his writing team we're putting out Mark 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: McCorkle and Bob school E, the creators of the show, 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: and um, we get an early idea of kind of 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the visuals and the timing and the pace and some 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: of the designs and some of the backgrounds. We start 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: to figure out the visuals of it. Um. And then 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: as we're starting to figure that out, we usually attend 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: the records that leads a Shafer is directing, which is 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: where you guys are doing an amazing job and the 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: thing that's that's great about going to the records is 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: we're listening for um peaks and values, because when you 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: animate a character, you really want to have a character 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: that has these kind of like just kind of peaks 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: in their voice and then it drops down. And because 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: that's really kind of where we anchor our drawings too, 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: that's where the expressions change or they the head gets bigger, 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the body arcs back, or the body reduces down. So 109 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: we really look for kind of those highs and lows 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: in the voice because we really like latch onto them. Okay, 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: And so peaks and valleys. Will has talked about the 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: fact that by season four, I guess um Ron was 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: so peaky. Did that change not a lot of valleys. 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: It's honestly, it was great because when you have when 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you have a voice that's kind of that that peaked 116 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: or that that kinectic um, you animate to that. And 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Ron kind of got if you look at the scenes 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: went on, he got a little more animated physical, which 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: was great because it provided great contrast for Kim, who 120 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: was very collected and calm. So it just it was 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: a really great visual you know, to to animate to. Actually, yeah, 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I think that Ron did get more and more like 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: a storylines as we as we progress, and he became 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: much more active during missions. Do you remember that? Oh yeah, definitely, Yeah, certainly. 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: I mean in season three, I think it's really where 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: it started to kind of pop, because, yeah, in season 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: two there was a couple of moments where trying to 128 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: bring him into the missions, but it was always a failure. 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: But it felt like in season three with Exchange and 130 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: the monkey Fist powers and it really started. And also 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: by the end of season three, we did so the drama, 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: so we had to be rawn leveled up to a 133 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: place that it really felt like, Okay, he could kind 134 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: of hold his own in a situation. Well, your first 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: episode ever was a run episode. The first episode you 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: did was the Wrong Factor, Right, Wrong Factor? That's right? Yeah, 137 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: and that was that was that was an interesting episode 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: because that was that was them trying to find a 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: new purpose for Ron. Uh So, which episode was? What? 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: What was the log line on this one? Ron Stop? 141 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: It was awesome film at eleven that yeah, And and 142 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: that was the the Agents of Shield group from Impossible 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: his name I cannot remember. At this particular moment, they 144 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: had they had interest in Ron and so they were 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: going to kind of enlist him for that. And you 146 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: know what's what's what makes the Ron factor so special? 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: So that was yeah, kind of what the episode was about. 148 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: The one makes special is this partnership with Kim. Honestly. So, 149 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: so wait, let me ask this because we always, Christie, 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: we always do this. We always jump in the middle 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and then we jumped to the end and then we jump. 152 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: How when's the first time you remember hearing the words 153 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Kim Possible? Um? Okay, this is an interesting story. Um. So, 154 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: most the genesis of Kim Possible actually started on an 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: animating series called Clerks, the animated series Kevin Smith's series. 156 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Here's here's why. It had the entire team on that 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: show except for Mark and Bob. So pretty much every 158 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: single person that worked on Kim Possible worked on that 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: show in Steve Silver, Chris Bailey, myself, Nick Philippi, and 160 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the Ice everybody, and so we kind of formed the 161 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: look of Kim at least partially on that show. So 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: that when Kim Possible kind of was starting to kind 163 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: of bubble to the surface and we kind of started 164 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: to hear about it, it was kind of like almost 165 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: trans finding that entire team onto Kim. So it was 166 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: it was an unusual experience because it was it was 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a type of thing where at that time at t 168 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: v A, there was a lot of kind of um 169 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: kids in school kind of shows going on, and this 170 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: one was kind of a spin on that. And also, 171 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: um what was great about hearing about this initially is 172 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: it was a female empowerment story, which is usual because 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: at that time I think you had Buffy the Vampire 174 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Slayer and maybe Xena, but there wasn't a lot of 175 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: strong female protagonists. Ye power Puff Girls Puff animated, right, Yeah, 176 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: so it was an exciting project to even hear about 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: to say, oh, this is really going to kind of 178 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: move the needle. So you're essentially saying that Kim and 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Ron were originally Jay and Silent Bomb. Yeah, was transition 180 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: in a way. You're definitely J then in that relationship. 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: I would imagine that would be that was probably accurate. 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny. That is so funny. When did 183 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Bob and Mark come in there? Yeah? When did When 184 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: did so? When did they kind of the whole team 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: get put together for the first time? Because they pitched it. 186 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I remember they said they pitched it in in in 187 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: the in the elevator going up to Gary Marsha's office, 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: they were like, they came up with it, and yeah, 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: she can do anything. He's run stoppable, he can't. Yeah, 190 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: like a lightning. I mean that that's what. What a moment, 191 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: just a creative moment to just get that level of inspiration. Yeah, yeah, 192 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: it was. It's it kind of I think, you know, 193 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: as as animation um goes through development process, it usually 194 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: kind of sticks with the show creators and the writers 195 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: just for a little bit of time, so as they 196 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: start to write out kind of longer log lines of 197 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the characters and who the characters are and things like that. 198 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: So there was probably a period of time spent of 199 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Mark and Bob just kind of isolated working on that. 200 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: But then probably right as Clerks was ending and there 201 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: was an opportunity to start to go into another production, 202 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: it just looked like, well, here's a seasoned crew that's 203 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: ready to just kind of jump into a show. And 204 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: and and also it was great because a lot of 205 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: the people had um experience on different types of show 206 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: other than Clark's. We had, you know, the kids stuff 207 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: we were doing for Disney, but a lot of them 208 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: had adult animated experience here and there said it really 209 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: just kind of made it made Kimpossibles kind of elevated 210 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: the quality of show. Oh my gosh, I mean, it's 211 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: so interesting to me in retrospect how many other shows 212 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: almost pirated the look of that animation. So like after 213 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Kim Possible came out, there was these commercials for Assurance 214 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, I was like, you've got to be 215 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: kidding me. Pink hair, she's got a communicator, Like she's 216 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: still flipping in, like flipping in and out. The direction 217 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: of it was very clearly ripping off of Steve and 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Well it involved they even those commercials even involved because 219 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: we we kind of for a moment in season three, 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: we gave Kim the super suit that right with the glow. Yeah, 221 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: and then they I think they did that in the 222 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: commercial too. She did have a suit. I know, I 223 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: was watching it fuming, and I was like, nowadays, I 224 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: think Disney would probably actually go after something like that 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: for for new But I will say, I will say, 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: what was it like using new technology directing with this 227 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: with the robots that we had in the movie? Um, 228 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: which movie was that that we had the robots? Yeah, 229 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: that was that was the It was the first time 230 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: the studio had been introduced to CG and it was 231 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of done out of necessity because we knew that 232 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: there was going to be armies of these characters and 233 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: it's really just at that certainly at that time it 234 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: was really hard to draw just the pencil mileage alone. 235 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: So we came up with the system of Okay, how 236 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: are we are we going to do this? And it 237 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: was it was a learning curve. Nowadays CG super easy 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: could do it at home, but then it was it 239 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: was pretty tough. Wow. Interesting you you laid the two 240 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: D animation that you guys were doing, and then you 241 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: did it almost like there was a temp non existent background, 242 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: so that inlaid the CG robots and at the time 243 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: of doing that, it was very I mean because we're 244 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: talking to Ago total and then right and then we 245 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: had to um, we were called rotoscope. We had to 246 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of take the CG model because we had to 247 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: put it then in our lines, so it had to 248 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: look like it was drawn so that it mixed with 249 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: the characters. And I remember the crazy thing about that 250 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: was you had the giant robots and that's okay because 251 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: they're big, and they take up a lot of space 252 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: on a frame. But there was moments where it was 253 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the tiny robot and Ron was holding the time like 254 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: interaction of that you know scope. So that was Yeah, 255 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: that was tricky, but it's a lot of fun. I 256 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: mean it was. It really felt like we were leveling 257 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: up the show. I mean, so the drama is easily 258 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: my favorite. Kimpossible uh project. It was great. It was 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, Steve, As much as we go down 260 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: memory lane, we also like to talk about just how 261 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: talented you are and that you you've continued to work 262 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: with you know, with Disney and well, wait before we 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: go forward, I want to go back. I want to 264 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: go back here. Yeah, exactly, you said. You you know, 265 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you're a comic book nerd and everything, A big nerd myself. 266 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: So it is animation something you always wanted to do? 267 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Or did you? Or you did you originally want to 268 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: be a filmmaker? What like, what were your plans when 269 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: you got into this industry? It was definitely cartooning? Um, 270 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, because the thing is, I how I got 271 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: into the business is, um, there was a Disney artist 272 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: drawing for kids at a shopping mall, like in New 273 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Jersey and so me and my brother, who's also an artist, 274 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: we went out, you know, to see this guy and 275 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: we showed him our drawings and he's like, yeah, these 276 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: are great, why don't you work for us? And it 277 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: was so straight up. So I worked for Disney straight 278 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: out high school. It was for consumer products, was doing 279 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: drawings for You were found at a mall. You were 280 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: found at a mall by somebody who works for Disney, 281 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and you started working right out of high school for Disney. Kidding, yeah, 282 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: day after high school. So they after graduated, boom right 283 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: right right into the Disney UM and go back east 284 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: or did you move out here? It was back east 285 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, so I was doing that UM 286 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: and then being back east, I had the opportunity I 287 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: did some work for Jim Henson, which was a lot 288 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: of fun, non Disney, non Disney Jim now Disneys and 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: everything Disney. UM. But yeah, we did some work for 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Jim Henson at the time. But the thing that kind 291 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: of pulled me into animation is I saw the pilot 292 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: for a show called Renn and Stimpy. Yeah, yeah, the 293 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Lightning Bolt, and yeah I had to work on that, 294 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I moved out to l A. I 295 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't know anybody out here. Uh, found the studio, found 296 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: a department close by, and and got the gig. And 297 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: not with your brother. You and your brother kind of split. 298 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: He came. He came later. He's he actually does um 299 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: book illustrations for Disney, so illustrated animator guy. Yeah, yeah, 300 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that's so. Was it was this Nickelodeon was in Burbank 301 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: at the time. Did you move to Burbank? Is that 302 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: what you just did? Yeah? Yeah. Actually it's funny because 303 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: they put Renist to be in a separate building, so Nickelodeon. 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: You had all the fun stuff going on Nickelodeon, and 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: I guess they kind of knew and they said, we're 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna put Rendist to be in a different building five 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: miles away, which won't be fun at all. You're in 308 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the warehouse. Yeah, basically, but you know what it was. 309 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: It was kind of good because it was a pretty 310 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: rebellious crew. It was a pretty eccentric crew, So that 311 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: was it was a fun experience. It was a challenging experience. Um, 312 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: my first gig, and it was a challenging show. Um, 313 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: but you know, since then, my my resume is all 314 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: over the map. I've done some more adult stuff. I 315 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: did a show called Duckman, I did preschool stuff. Thinking 316 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: Clubhouse a little bit um, yes, but but honestly, it's 317 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: impossible that it is always the one that people want 318 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: to reminiscent talk about, which I'm more than happy to 319 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: talk about. It's such an important part of my life. 320 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture of all of us right now. 321 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: We all look so young. We're posting that on our 322 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: on our Instagram. I have a shirt that's literally still 323 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: out of print. He says. Everyone loves an Italian girl. 324 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: You look like you just went to a Rusted Root concert. 325 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: I remember that picture. I remember that picture. That was 326 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: last record, I think, and it was like we never 327 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: got to really see each other in person, So I 328 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: do think if it was our last record, I think 329 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: I remember being like, this is sad that this is 330 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: our last recording, and that this is the only time 331 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I got to hang with Will. Yeah, we didn't see 332 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: We didn't get to really hang out much. No. No, 333 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I was in New York. You were learning, you were 334 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: at college learning. Yes, yeah, it should be twelve years 335 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: of finished. I should have just deleted. I guess see 336 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Steve and I are both smart. We went right from 337 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: high school to work. We decided to go to school 338 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: bills exactly. So Steve, if Kim comes ever comes back, 339 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: like if we were ever, if that ever happened, what 340 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: would you want for Kim? Like, who do you get Kim? 341 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Does Kim need to grow? Does she need to like 342 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: be a different person, and does she need to be 343 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: more modern an adult? Is she a kid? Like? That's 344 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: what I would if if like, if we're going to 345 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: bring her back, would you pick would you bring her 346 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: back right where we started, where they're in high school still, 347 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: would they be in college? Would they be adults now? Like? 348 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: What would I'm curious where you'd go with it? Well, 349 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: it always when we finished Kim in season four, Um, 350 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: I think we're all a little burnt out at that time. 351 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: And we've worked on the show for it for a 352 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: long long time, but we always felt that there was 353 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: more stories to tell than we always kind of hoped 354 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: that we were going to pick it up after a 355 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: short break or a short vacation, So it was always 356 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: in the back of our minds. And I remember, you know, 357 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: over years, you know, I'd run into Mark and Bob 358 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: and we just kind of joke about, oh, maybe it 359 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: would be this, or maybe it would be this, and 360 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: it just depended on the on the particular moment of 361 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: this is this is the future for for Kim and Ron. 362 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: There was one thing that was interesting on was it 363 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: the sitch in time or maybe the sort the drama 364 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: DVD release. I had to do some art where it 365 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: was like you show Kim and Ron as they get 366 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: older and younger and that kind of thing, and I 367 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: did drawings for that, and the drawings that I did 368 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: for adults Kim and Ron I thought were the best drawings, 369 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: and they decided not to use them, but they decided 370 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: to use the old versions of Kim and Ron. And 371 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: what was kind of sad about that is it was 372 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of a joke because we made Kim and she 373 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 1: was like an agent of of Shield or whatever that 374 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: you and but but here's the thing, we we we 375 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: we we did it so that again this was a joke. 376 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: We did it so that she looked like doctor Director, 377 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: so she had the I patching and kind of overweight 378 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And what was what was terrible 379 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: about it was it only worked and you saw the 380 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: adult versions of them, which were sleek and they were fit, 381 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: and they were fighters and and so the audience missed 382 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: the good middle part and that and man, they did 383 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: not like it. Wow, jumped right to it. Yeah, this 384 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: is well. I mean this is also at the time 385 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: what the the Internet was kind of in its infancy 386 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: at the time, so we were learning was not really 387 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: but starting to get you know, feedback and stuff like 388 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: that that was instantaneous. Was it was an entirely new thing. Um. Okay, 389 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: so now we're now we can jump ahead to what 390 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: you're working on now because you're working on a bunch 391 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: of different stuff, right, yeah, yeah, the So yeah, so 392 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: we have The Ghost and Molly McGhee, which is a 393 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: really great show. Um, it's currently on air. I got 394 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Ashley Birch and Dana Snyder are doing the voices on that. 395 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: They're incredible. Their chemistry is incredible. Um. And then coming 396 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: soon coming on February ten on the Channel and coming 397 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: up thereafter is Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. Um. 398 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: And this is this is an interesting project. This is 399 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: the first collaboration between Marvel and Disney TV Animation. That's awesome. 400 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of like what KP KP was the first 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: collaboration with Walt Disney Studios and Disney so I like, 402 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: I like being at the first of the Yeah, of course, 403 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: of course. And it's a great show. It follows the 404 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: adventures of Lunella Lafayette, who is one of the smartest 405 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: characters in the Marvel universe. She's a thirteen year old 406 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: super genius. She creates a portal which accidentally brings a 407 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: giant red dinosaur into New York's lowery Side. And of course, 408 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: when you have a giant red dinosaur, you know with 409 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: you you partner with him to fight crime on the 410 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: New York City. And that's my daughters are going to 411 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: love this show. Like I cannot tell you how much 412 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: my daughter is gonna be upset. And I'm so happy 413 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: to know that you're behind that. That makes me so happy. 414 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: It's a great show. And our cast is amazing. We 415 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: have Diamond Whitely, bee Be Rare uh Fred Taishore is 416 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: friend of the show. Yeah, um, And Lawrence Fishburne is 417 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: a executive producer on the show. Is Holly Robinson Pete 418 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: and Andy Cohen. And I mean there's a whole bunch 419 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: of method man. I mean there's a whole bunch of 420 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: people involved. Right, So you're so lucky, Like, I love 421 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: seeing that you you're still doing that thing with where 422 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: we had with Kim possibly so many amazing cameos. I think. 423 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of fun when you can 424 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: drop people in, don't you, Steve. It's totally because you 425 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: get you get a different flavor. And and what's great 426 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: is sometimes when you bring in kind of new voices 427 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, it just kind of shakes everything 428 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: up just a little bit. Every everyone has to, you know, 429 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: adjust to that new energy. And it really because all 430 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: we're looking for on the voice tracks is, of course 431 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: you're brilliant performances that elevate the animation and make our 432 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: lives like, oh we really punch out drawings this and 433 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: really make this exciting and move the camera around because 434 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: everything is just so kinetic and popping with the motivated. Yeah, absolutely, 435 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I see. So the motivation for you to create the 436 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: actual animation sort of comes from the the the spirit, 437 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: the energy of our performances. I never really realized that 438 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: that's where the vitality of animation comes from. I mean, 439 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: that's the right, I'm human in that place, but it's 440 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: the performance, that that we get from the voice actors, 441 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: that that that turns it to life and how we 442 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: start imagining what the animation looks like based off of that. 443 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Is that why you guys put the video camera to 444 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: watch us before you started animating the pilot? Totally? Oh? Absolutely, 445 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: And we would try to film as much as possible. 446 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: That's actually why. I mean, I couldn't come to every session, 447 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: but I try to try to come to as many 448 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: things as I can because we watch you. We'd see 449 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: some of the expressions that you guys would make, and 450 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: we kind of doodle it, you know, on our scripts 451 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: to go, okay, this for this, I remember this for 452 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: that because yeah, we're looking at you know, at your 453 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: whole performance. It's not just your voice. It's like we're 454 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: keying in on on on facial movements and body language 455 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: and everything. Oh yeah, Christy and I are very ying 456 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: yang in that we She always seems to like to 457 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: talk about the future and I always seemed to like 458 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: to talk about the past. Who knows why. But wait, 459 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: so you when you when you were getting into this, 460 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: not even as a kid, what were your favorite animated 461 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: series growing up? Like? What were you? What were you 462 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: couldn't miss what was your couldn't miss animated Joe wow Um, 463 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: I gotta admit I I was. I was living in 464 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: New York, so I think we had we had more 465 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: exposure to interesting and unique and rare animation than we 466 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: would have in a lot of other places. So there 467 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: was kind of an early introduction to the works of Miyazaki. 468 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Soto was, Yeah, that was a big film for me. Um. 469 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: There was a film called Castle Cagliostro which is looping 470 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the third so so it was kind of things like that. 471 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: But of course Uh tex savery uh cartoons and the 472 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: Bugs Bunny stuff that was done by Bob Clampett and 473 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: Chuck Jones. So it was a lot of that earlier 474 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: because what was you had that stuff when you would 475 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: come home from school, it would be on TV. They 476 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: would they would rerun all of the Warner Brothers cartoons. 477 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: The Disney stuff you had to kind of get on tape. 478 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: They didn't really there wasn't really an outlet to see 479 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the Disney stuff. But so there was a constant exposure 480 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: to kind of the animation that was done in the 481 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: in the fifties and fors and fifties, and I think 482 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: that also kind of found its way into impossible. I 483 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: think that the the art sensibility of styling, certainly the 484 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: backgrounds and the very much the backgrounds. The background, I mean, 485 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: there's almost something and this is it's a it's a 486 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: weird kind of correlation. But I always thought there was 487 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: something almost flint Stones esque about the background of MS. 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: It was very very cool. And so were you. Also 489 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: you talk about Mirazaka, you also like an Akira fan. 490 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: Did you go through your Cura phase and all all 491 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: the classic enemy Akira ghost in Michelle Ya, all that 492 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: stuff that just kind of showed up, you know in 493 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: New York was and it was we were all exchanging 494 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: tapes because at that time it was it was like 495 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: either poorly dubbed or poorly Yeah, so that was the 496 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: only wow. That's so that's so fascinating because when you 497 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: think about it, with Disney, their i P is is 498 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: making their i p accessible to everyone was probably a 499 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: lot harder to justify back then with the way that 500 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: people were making their money. Um, and now it's accessible 501 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: to everyone because everything is streaming. So I can only 502 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: think about how fast the learning curve will be for 503 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: like a young version of you now, Steve, like, who 504 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: is this? Do you mentor? Do you mentor like younger animators? 505 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: How does that work? Do? Yeah? Do that? At the studio? Um, 506 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: we we we bring up a lot a lot of 507 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: people that are either just kind of coming into the 508 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: industry maybe their interns and they're trying to figure stuff out, 509 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: and so yeah, like I've done a number of mentoring 510 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: projects over the past year in particular because yeah, look, ultimately, 511 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to retire at some point soon 512 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: and you're not not yet. Okay, I want you know, 513 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: I want to be able to enjoy you know, I'm 514 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: gonna sit back TV, so you get to enjoy nothing. 515 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: You have stuff to do still, Steve, you get to 516 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: enjoy nothing. Yeah, but I want the next generation there, 517 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I want. I want to enjoy their work. So yeah, 518 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: of course I want. I hope as much as I 519 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: can absolutely that. Yeah, we got to we got to 520 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: see you briefly at D twenty three, but we we 521 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: got to meet your son. Does your son? Um? Does he? 522 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: My son Nico wants to be a voice actor, Okay 523 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: in our contest contest, he's pretty great. Um, I got him. 524 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: I got him a spot on Moon Girl. So he 525 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: had his kind of his first taste of voice acting 526 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: in the studio, which was great. But yeah, that's something 527 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: he loves to do. He does a lot of the 528 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: dubbing on anime right now, okay for friends and stuff 529 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, but yeah, but he loves animation. 530 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: I think it was just it was part of the household. 531 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it was avoidable in a way. I guess 532 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great household to grow up 533 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: in when you're growing up around animation pen or a microphone. 534 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's like one of the other both. Yeah, yeah, 535 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: I think that's so well. Unfortunately, Steve, we've got you know, 536 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: we have a heart out today, which stinks. But but no, 537 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: we were we were so excited to get a chance 538 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: to talk to you. And again everybody, uh don't forget 539 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: we got Ghost and Molly McGee and moon Girl and 540 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Devil Dinosaur, which both sounds so great. The Moon Girl 541 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and Devil Dinosaur does sound like, uh, just the cool 542 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: the coolest idea in the world. Fans of Kimpossible who 543 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: will enjoy the show. It feels like a nice companion 544 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: piece in a way. So yeah, this is the coolest 545 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: thing in the world, and we hope we're not done yet, 546 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Steve with with whatever happens in the future, anything is 547 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: possible for a possible. Yes, that would be so cool. 548 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Now can people if they which I'm sure they're gonna 549 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: want it. They're gonna want to follow your career and 550 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: everything you're doing. Do you have any socials people can 551 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: follow you on? Yeah, I'm on Instagram and Twitter. Um 552 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: it's at Steve Loder on so yeah, check it out. 553 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: You guys, you for joining us. Kim Possible would not 554 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: have been Kim Possible without without you involved and kind 555 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: of helping to guide the ship. So now I appreciate that. 556 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: But honestly, you know, you guys did a lot of 557 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: have you lifting to make that show great? So all 558 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: your work, that's very sweet. You just made Christie blush. 559 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Look at that, you just made Christie blush. Thank you 560 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: so much Steve for joining us, and everybody please go 561 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: watch all the new stuff and the older stuff because 562 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: it's all it's just all good, it really is. It's 563 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: all good and Steve is attached to it's good. So 564 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: please come back too, because we have this conversation is 565 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: not done yet. We have a lot left to talk about. 566 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the past, Chris. He wants 567 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: to talk about the future. But we've got a lot 568 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: left to talk about. So if you can come back again, 569 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: we'd really appreciate it absolutely anytime. Thank you so much, Steve. 570 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon. Thank you. Bye. Oh 571 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: that was so cool. Yeah, I hate that we have 572 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: to cut it short, but we have to cut it short. 573 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: What is he He's going to a booking or something, right, 574 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: He's a busy man. He's a busy guy. And um, yeah, 575 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: my something happens. I think this the room I'm in 576 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: is destroyed in like fourteen minutes. The room is going 577 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: to countdown? Does a countdown? Um? If we got it? 578 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: But no, So yeah, everybody, go check out Ghost and 579 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Molly McGee and moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur of course 580 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: is coming out February tent And that does sound like 581 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: something that's going to be like your kids are gonna 582 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: love that. That sounds that sounds awesome. So thank you 583 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: everybody for joining us, and go check out Steve all 584 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the stuff he's done. You will not be disappointed. He's 585 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a phenomenal artist and a wonderful director and producer. Um, 586 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: so go check out everything, and until then, don't forget. 587 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing our super awesome contest to become 588 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the next big voice actor. It is real, people, it 589 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: is true. It is happening and January nine through February nine, 590 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: and you can submit all of you. It's gonna be 591 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: a video. Can't be over two minutes. I hear voices 592 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: at I heart radio dot com. Well, we really want 593 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that you, guys know where to submit 594 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: your two minute long sort of audition tapes for us. 595 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Don't just just do it, guys. You know you're listening 596 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: out there, if you're listening to the podcast, don't be scared. 597 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: We're here to help you and get you a really 598 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: great opportunity. Um we know you're out there listening. We 599 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: have great fans and uh yeah, let's do this. Let's 600 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: find somebody, right will Yeah. I agree. I can't wait. 601 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: It's this is getting very exciting, so I can't wait. 602 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some cool stuff in the future. So 603 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: thank you everybody for joining us. Don't forget to enter 604 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: the contest. Don't submit early. 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