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Speaker 1: out the podcast this week of the radio show. You know,

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Speaker 1: of the podcasts that we do with you guys. And

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Speaker 1: here's one of the cast members of season twenty nine

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Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars. It starts on Monday. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's already started by the time you hear this, but

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Speaker 1: it's AJ McClain. He stopped by my house to do

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Speaker 1: an episode of my music podcast called The Bobby Cast,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you subscribe to that, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: you to hear this. You know, we talk about him

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Speaker 1: starting over with a country music career, We talk about

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Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys, we talk about the one song he's

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Speaker 1: tired of playing live. It is a great hour long

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Speaker 1: conversation with Aj that I wanted to share with you.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. If you do, you'll have good luck for

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Speaker 1: the next day twenty four hours. If you don't, you

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. But let's go back to episode two oh one.

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Speaker 1: He's on Dancing with the Stars. He starts this week

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Speaker 1: a J McClain from The Backstreet Boys. Welcome to two

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Speaker 1: o one with AJ McClain that I I was talking about

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Speaker 1: talking about you. I guess yesterday because we were in

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Speaker 1: Like they're about to go on like thirty seconds, he's

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Speaker 1: And then you run up and like almost right in time,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I gotta go see it.

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Speaker 1: A Batio's like, I was seeing you in like forever,

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Speaker 1: and I hadn't had a chance to congratulate you on

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Speaker 1: were a little bit worried. So we're like, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: literally like you're pretty much spot on. As soon as

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Speaker 1: You must do that so much. He's got no fear,

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Speaker 1: just often on. That's pretty much par for the course

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Speaker 1: for me with my entire life as as of late,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about a lot of the new stuff that

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Speaker 1: you're in Nashville now, You're at my house obviously, so

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Speaker 1: past twenty six years that could easily be on country radio,

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Speaker 1: songs like Drowning, Save Us Place, to hide help us

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Speaker 1: know shot, And they were like beyond supportive. They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: people this is one direction, one kind of side of

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Speaker 1: where I want to take country from me. Just a

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Speaker 1: the Big Island and we were staying in this remote

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00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 1: part where I'm like, there's nobody around. Is like one

426
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: food store, there's like one golf course, there's whatever. First

427
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: day on the public beach done, and I'm like, well, okay,

428
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to the hotel, We're gonna go

429
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: back to the airbnb. We're gonna go to the back

430
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: to the little private beach where there's nobody there. But

431
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the public beach. There's more

432
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: activities for my kids. But yeah, Like literally within ten

433
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: minutes of being in the hand, I'm taking selfies and

434
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: taking pictures and I'm like, am I My wife's she

435
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,719
Speaker 1: obviously gets it. My kids not so much like my

436
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: oldest now she wants to be in the pictures. My

437
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: youngest is like, what you're doing? My daddy, Like she

438
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 1: gets mad. I'm like, it's okay, babe, I'm just taking

439
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: a quick picture. I'm gonna come play with you. But like, yeah,

440
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: it's it's still this weird shock. I think to both

441
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: my girls and they both got the bug though. Man,

442
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: they both sing, they both danced, they both want it.

443
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, I'll support them if they want

444
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: to be neurosurgeons. I don't care as long as they're

445
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: happy and healthy. But they definitely have the itch to

446
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: be on stage. Like awesome, when was it for you

447
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: that it got to be where you couldn't walk outside?

448
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: At what age was it for you? Um? Probably like

449
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety nine was like when we shut down

450
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Times Square four at TRL. Yeah, when we shut down

451
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: Times Square, that was the craziest day because it was

452
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: the first time any artists that were shut down Times Square.

453
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: We left, we did a live performance from the rooftop

454
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: of the Vicom building, and then literally after we left

455
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: TRL walked right next door and saw the premiere of

456
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: episode one Star Wars and sat next to George Lucas.

457
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: It was the most surreal day in my life because

458
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Star Wars fan and to like have

459
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: this moment happened all in the same day was just insane.

460
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: But I was still living in Florida, so I had

461
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: the same mall that I would go to back when

462
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: we used to call the the you know States, no

463
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: fan Land. Because we blew up in Europe first Europe

464
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: and the rest of the world, and we come back

465
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: to the States. It was like crickets. And then all

466
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm at my my typical mall that

467
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: I would go to every single weekend, and now things

468
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: have changed, and it kind of hit me like, whoa,

469
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I can't go out anymore. But I'm the

470
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: opposite of some of my bandmates. I don't mind the attention.

471
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: I'll stop and take the pictures. I'll stop and take it.

472
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: You know. The only the only time I don't want

473
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: to really be bothered is when I'm eating. Plus nobody

474
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: wants to watch anyone eat. It's not that flattering, you

475
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, but I will always stop

476
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: even if I'm in a bad mood. It doesn't matter.

477
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: For that one moment, you're changing someone's life, you're making

478
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: somebody happy, You're bringing someone joy. You know. I don't

479
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: look at what I do as a job I look

480
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: at it as a privilege. I get to bring joy

481
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: and happiness for two hours a night, whether it's solo,

482
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: whether it's with the group. Let those people forget about

483
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: their job, their boss, whatever it is, and just come

484
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: out and just enjoy good music. That's what brings me happiness.

485
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: So it's a it's an honest to God privilege, and

486
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more grateful. How do you meet your wife?

487
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: She was a bartender waitress at Saddle Ranch on Sunset Boulevard.

488
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: How long he has been together? Ten years? Ten years together?

489
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: And when in one day on a Sunday morning, which

490
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: is you know they have the food, there's amazing. And

491
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: I have written the bull if you if you've ever

492
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: been to Sidle Ranch, I have actually written the ball.

493
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: I had the record until a couple of years ago.

494
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: I held on for twenty eight seconds before they threw

495
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: me off. But she was working my you know table,

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: and she just she just caught my eye and we

497
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: started talking. I asked her out. She said she was

498
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: single and cool. She claims she didn't know who I was,

499
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: which I think is a bunch of bs. And then

500
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: and when she found out who I was, she panicked.

501
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: Our first day was supposed to be dinner in a movie.

502
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I just had three long nights in the studios, so

503
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I was like, what about just I make dinner at

504
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: the house and I'll watch something at my house. Then

505
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: she's probably thinking, oh, your house. I know genuinely did

506
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: not think that. So she made up some weird story

507
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: and then it just never ended up happening. Two years

508
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: went by, I ended up dating someone else, thank god,

509
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: it fell apart, went back in she had quit for

510
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: that two years, went back, saw her again, asked her

511
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: out again, left to go on tour like immediately after

512
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: I asked her out, but she waited. In March twenty second,

513
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: two thousand nine was our very first date and we've

514
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: been together ever since and have two beautiful kids. She's

515
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: my rock. She's amazing. She deserves every award in the

516
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: world to put up with my antics and has put

517
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: up with me for the last ten years. So hats

518
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: off to her. So no secret stash Backstreet Boy posters

519
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: that you found. No, she was an in Sync fan.

520
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: She liked well. She she she liked their dancing better

521
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: and liked our singing better. But there's a photo of

522
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: her at our Black and Blue tour. She was seventeen

523
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: years old. She drove her friends out to Vegas from

524
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: Santa Clarita in California, up in the nosebleeds, and I

525
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: always asked her, I'm like, so, looking down at those guys,

526
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: did you ever think one day you're gonna that you

527
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: might possibly marry once? She's like, absolutely not. She she

528
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: had a crush on and you'll see where I'm going

529
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: with this. She had a crush on Jonathan Knight from

530
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: from New Kids, had a Shawan Lance bass Women Sink,

531
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: and then married me. So I'm like, no, babe, no, no, no,

532
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: no no no. I do support my LGBT community, but

533
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: I like women. So but you know, they're still trying

534
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: to pinpoint one of us in the group. They're saying,

535
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, every boy band has to have I'm like, no,

536
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: not always, you guys. Whenever you guys were, were you

537
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: ever officially like hiatus? Like, did you guys ever just

538
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: go We're done? Yeah? I mean I don't know if

539
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: we're coming back. Like after we finished the Black and

540
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Blue Tour, before we made it Never Gone record, that

541
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: was the gap that I think the media, fans, a

542
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of people thought we quote unquote broke up. We've

543
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: never broken up in twenty six years. But we took

544
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: a well needed break, and we took about a year

545
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: and a half off of doing nothing, and then about

546
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: a year and a half to make the Never Gone record,

547
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: So it became a three year break that again out

548
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind, and then shortly after Never

549
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: Gone is when Kevin decided he wanted to go take

550
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: a true hiatus for almost seven years. Um, but we

551
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: four kept on going. So there's never really been a

552
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: proper like break break. I mean, which I was leading

553
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: me to ask this, Like, whenever you guys are are chilling,

554
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: you all go to your own homes. You have families, ye,

555
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: Like who who's who's like your boy? Like? Who do

556
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: you still stay closer? I mean, I'm I'm I'm the

557
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: one that I feel is closest to everybody for different reasons.

558
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin and I are the only ones that

559
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: live in California. I've gotten to his house every Easter

560
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: for the last five years. Um, the Easter bunny shows up,

561
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: wink wink um, and it's just awesome. Uh. Brian and

562
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: I have definitely I feel gotten closer over the last

563
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: few years. Um uh, just I think with with all

564
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: that he's been dealing with with his vocals and with

565
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: his voice in that whole situation, I feel like, um,

566
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: there's been this interesting comparison between me and the world

567
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: of sobriety and trying to you know, stay sober and

568
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: like recovery in the work to stay sober, and the

569
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: same thing for him putting in the work to get

570
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: his voice back. There's just been this really interesting camaraderie

571
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: between him and I lately a lot, and we're both huge,

572
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: huge golfers, so we golf almost every day on the

573
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: road that we have a day off. How we have

574
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: known for thirty years. I've known him the longest. We

575
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: used to always go to all the same auditions when

576
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: there was any audition back in Orlando for someone who's Latin,

577
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: or the two Latin guys, so we'd always show up

578
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: like in our full like minuta outfits. And then Nick

579
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: and I are the youngest, so Nick and I have

580
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: always we've always had our own little special you know, bond.

581
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this for a fact, I

582
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: know I'm the only one that calls everybody when we're

583
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: on downtime just to say hi. Nobody calls me, then

584
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. But nobody calls me. I

585
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: call them and like, Hey, what's up, Rock, how you

586
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: doing it? Hey, keV? I want to go see a

587
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: movie or whatever. Like I've had to be the one

588
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: to like instigate like double date night with Kevin and

589
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: his wife, or like, you know, if if Nick's in town,

590
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, come over and like we'll watch football. But

591
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: nobody really ever calls to me. I don't know what

592
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: the deal is, Like, I mean, this, this particular tour

593
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I feel has been the closest we've ever been. I

594
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I think now just again,

595
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: we're all married, we're all family men. There's a different

596
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: level of respect and appreciation for each other. And now

597
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: we've kind of taken the bull by the horns and

598
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: we can really kind of plan our life and have

599
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: that and healthy balance now, like we're not just needle

600
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: to the grindstone, go go go, Like we need to

601
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: have a balance. And now that we're all dads, priorities change,

602
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: you know. So if I can be home with my

603
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: daughter to go see her dance recital, and there's an

604
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: opportunity to do a TV show or something like that.

605
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: If it's not that important, I'm gonna say no, That's

606
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: where I want to be with my is, with my kids.

607
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: So you know, it's nice to have that balance now

608
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: where before it was just point and we just went,

609
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, but things have definitely changed, I feel for

610
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: the better. And that's why the overall just energy is

611
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: just much more positive. What was it like at home

612
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: as a kid for you? I kind of walking me

613
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: through what AJ's life was like, you know when you started,

614
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: like memories of four or five years old? What was

615
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: that like? I mean I started. I was always performing

616
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: as far back as I can recall, Um, I did

617
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: musical theater from when I was six to twelve. UM

618
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: did about seventy five different plays without side of the performance,

619
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: like as a human Like what I mean, what the

620
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: scenario would be at your house? It's weird, Like I'm

621
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm an only child. UM My mom had twin girls

622
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: after I was born. They both did not survive UM,

623
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: which my mom always says I was more than enough

624
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: to handle anyways, which I get it now. Um, I

625
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: was just kind of a I was a real goofy kid,

626
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: like um. When the when the Nintendo Power Glove came out,

627
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I cut the cord off of it and wore it

628
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: to school because I wanted kids to think I was cool.

629
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Did not work out in my favor. I didn't wear

630
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: a backpack at school. I carried a briefcase. I took

631
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: my mom's glasses and popped the lenses out and wore

632
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the frames because I wanted to look smart. I was

633
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: friends more so with girls than with guys. I wasn't

634
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: big into sports. I was the kind of outgoing, like

635
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: always on, performer type personality, Like that's just who I was.

636
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: But I always took care of my family. It was

637
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: my you know, a single mom, living with my mom

638
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: and my grandparents and me in a three bedroom apartment,

639
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: and you know, just going to school, just trying to

640
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: be a normal kid, still doing the acting thing, you

641
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: know whatever, going to dance class. My goal and my

642
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: dream as a child was to be a backup dancer

643
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: from Michael or Janet Jackson. That's all I wanted to

644
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: be when I was growing up. I love dance, and

645
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: now I get to do all of it. I get

646
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: to act, I get to dance, I get to sing

647
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: and it's all within the same world. But I was

648
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: just a goofy, dorky kid. I'm still a dork and

649
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: I will forever be a big kid because you know,

650
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: I've actually started when I was fourteen. So I got

651
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: pulled out of high school, I got tutored, I graduated,

652
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: but I never I never went to homecoming. I never

653
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: had a problem until my fortieth. My wife gave me

654
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: my prom is the most amazing I'm even getting emotional

655
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: thinking about it. It was the most amazing thing, most

656
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: amazing night in my life. I mean literally, spot on

657
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: DJ played every song from from the class in ninety six.

658
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: They had the little cheesy photo boothe with all the props.

659
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Of course, my wife and I were prom king and

660
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: queen all my boys. And if you weren't, what an

661
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: upset if that would yeah, that would have been like

662
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: a Monica from Three Houses of Down. I'd be so mad,

663
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: been like if she would have picked her best friend

664
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: and like her boyfriend, I was like really really? But yeah,

665
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, looking back on it, I've kind of gotten

666
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: past like feeling like I'm feeling that moment of like

667
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: missing out. But again, I had to grow up really fast,

668
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: so again, I'm always going to be a big kid.

669
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Now I'll get to live vicuriously through my kids, which

670
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: is awesome. You know. Like I'm a huge sneaker head.

671
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm a huge gadget guy. At one point I had

672
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: every nerf gun you could ever think of. And I

673
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: was in my thirties. Like I had a nerf war

674
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: at my house at back in my old house with

675
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: me and tea pain. It was a weird night. But

676
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: like again, I just that brings me happiness, just to

677
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: keep that youthfulness, you know, living in this three bedroom

678
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: apartment with my parents, and it was interesting the apartment

679
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: complex that we lived in, Britney Spears lived in Ryan Gosling.

680
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: A lot of the Mousketeers lived there. So I played

681
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: basketball with Ryan almost every afternoon unless he was taping.

682
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget I actually kissed Brittany on the

683
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: basketball court. This is before she became the Britney Spears.

684
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was an interesting life growing up.

685
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Whenever you guys pop as a band and you're so

686
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: famous that you can't move, do you actually feel it

687
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: as it's growing? Like are you working so hard that

688
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: you're not actually understanding what's going on around you or

689
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: or do you do you really know all the time.

690
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: My wife just asked me the other day. We're watching

691
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: this this CBS Morning show that we had just filmed,

692
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: and just how this entire tour now has been sold out.

693
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: It's our biggest arena tour in eighteen years. And She's like,

694
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: is it freaking you out that this is happening again?

695
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: Like getting this second chance, getting this renaissance, this resurgence

696
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: to happen again on the level of I said, you know,

697
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: all of it still hasn't hit me too. Twenty six

698
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: years I've been doing this and it still hasn't hit me.

699
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't know when that well. I feel like for me,

700
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna finally hit me when we finally win a Grammy.

701
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: That's what I feel it's gonna because to me, that

702
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: is like the creme de la creme of our of

703
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: our world, is to win a Grammy. We've been nominated

704
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: nine times, which is amazing in itself, but to finally win,

705
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I feel will solidify that kind of respect and credibility

706
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: that some of us feel like how much longer? Because

707
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: I had my whole speech plan and I'll say it

708
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: again because and I'll just I'll put myself out there.

709
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to speak last, and I wanted to dedicate

710
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: our Grammy to Leo DiCaprio and then say nothing else.

711
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the press would have been like, what

712
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: are you talking about? I look at us like the

713
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Leo Dicaprios of the music world. It took him how

714
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: many years to finally get an Oscar? And he should

715
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: have been winning multiple times departed I mean, Gilbert Grape

716
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: so many movies he should have won for and it

717
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: took him getting mauled by a fake bear to win

718
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: a freaking Oscar? So you know, what is it going

719
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: to take for us to finally finally get there? What

720
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: is it gonna take? That's the real question. I'm I'm

721
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: wondering if it's going to be us together for thirty years,

722
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean twenty six years. It's unheard of for groups

723
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: like us, and I still don't know what is it

724
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: going to take. Is it gonna be this amazing collaboration moment?

725
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Is it going to be um? You know? Is it

726
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be like that lifetime achievement thing? Like,

727
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: what is it gonna What's it going to be that's

728
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: an interesting question. I'm I'm thinking, like my wheels are

729
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: spending a little bit, and there are the there are

730
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: the positive things. That could be a really interesting collaboration

731
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: from someone that you wouldn't expect the critics love because

732
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, the Grammys are it's such a critic thing

733
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's more internal base as opposed to

734
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: like the AMA. He's just like fan based, Billboard Awards,

735
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff is more about the music and the fans.

736
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: But the Grammys is like the Oscars. It's that it's

737
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: that more corporate side of things. So let's talk to us.

738
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Who would you guys, Who could you guys do do

739
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: a project with? Like right now? Like her, her could

740
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: be cool who was loved both by the critics because

741
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: she wins at the Grammys. Um, Janelle Monee, I would

742
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: love to do something with her. We gotta think it

743
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: just can't be somebody super cool. But also because Janelle

744
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: money is also there. But I don't want to get

745
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: off just doing cool things. Um that the Grammy voter,

746
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Grammy voter. Yeah. And then you look and

747
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: there's so many also, there's so many categories. You don't

748
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: even look at all the categories, Like I would like

749
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: us to do something outside of our comfort zone, Like

750
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: if we were to do something with like the Marcus

751
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: King Band, or like Saint Paul and the Broken Bones

752
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: or something that's so avant garde that you'd be like,

753
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: what did I just listen to? Like you know, Saint

754
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Paul is like that big band, and a Marcus King

755
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: is just ridiculous, like in the jazz like in jazz,

756
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: or like I'm obsessed with. I mean, I'm probably like

757
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: the like last man to get on board with Tuxedo,

758
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: but like even that kind of that old Roger and

759
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: Zap type type vibe as well. I mean, who knows.

760
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's something so far left field that

761
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: everyone goes, wait a minute now, Like you said, there's

762
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: there's positives and there's negatives. The positive would be we

763
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: finally get the Grammy. But the negative to me would

764
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: be like, but we had to do it with someone else,

765
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: what is it going to take for us to do

766
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: it on our own? Okay? You know what I mean? Um, well, uh,

767
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: let's see, someone could die. You don't want that to happen? Yeah, no, no,

768
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: no that you don't want that to happen. Somebody already

769
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: went to rehab, we've we've we've already played that one out,

770
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: that one's done, or they make it, or or I'm

771
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: just rolling through scenarios. They make a movie about you,

772
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: like a real serious like someone we've talked about it.

773
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: Someone hops in like a major director and they make

774
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: a movie and there's some story because as you know,

775
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: these biopics have a thread that maybe you haven't followed

776
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: always exactly, or they embell as certain scenarios, like you know,

777
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think we just figured it out.

778
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: But he mean, Rapsody to me was phenomenal, Okay, phenomenal.

779
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: So if you did do a biopic about us, um,

780
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: because there is a lot that we've never shared or

781
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: that the press and media don't know about. I mean, yes,

782
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: everyone knows about the lou prom and stuff. Everyone knows

783
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: about this and that and the other, and but there's

784
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: so much more. Like after we did our documentary, we

785
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: did get a lot out. But if you put it

786
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: in a film aspect who knows like and we have,

787
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: you need a couple of big actors. Yep, you can't

788
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: be in it. No, we would be the producers. So imperious.

789
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: We'd be in the room we like we'd be. Basically,

790
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: we just figured out how you're gonna win your game,

791
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and then you do the soundtrack. Yep, done, and we

792
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: record all of our music. There's a redemption at the end. Yep,

793
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: you're back selling at tours. There it is, it's done.

794
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: Just go ouad and Okay, twenty twenty two, which rock

795
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: and roll Hall of Fame twenty five years after the

796
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: first record? Right, that's that's that's the It's almost that time.

797
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll get hit from your twenty six years?

798
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: The twenty six years? Now? Okay? Do you feel like

799
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: you you should have been reached out to buy me? Now?

800
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: There's there's been I've heard rumblings about that. I've heard

801
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: rumblings about the MTV Vanguard. I've heard rumblings about all

802
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: kinds of things. But again, until we see it, who knows.

803
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: But I mean, how do they not like Let's let's

804
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: aside from if you think um pop music is your jam,

805
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: if you think boy bands or your jam or not,

806
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, people have all these feelings about it. Um

807
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: you can't deny. And I know this is gonna be

808
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: where you're frustrated with just the data exactly Like I mean,

809
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: if you just look at it on paper, it's all factual,

810
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: like nothing's embellished. This is actually our career, this is

811
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: what we've achieved, this is what we've done, and this

812
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: is what we've set out to do, and this is

813
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: our and this is where we where we want to go. Um.

814
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've often I don't want to say

815
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: joked about, but I've I've often thought to myself, Man,

816
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: how bad would it be if one of us goes

817
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: and does a solo thing and that's the one that

818
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: gets the Grammy before the group does, or that's the

819
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: one that gets the whatever before the group does. But

820
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's all because of the group.

821
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: There would be no platform for any of us to

822
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: stand solo if it wasn't for the body of Absolutely

823
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: I feel that, you know, this is the epicenter that's

824
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: been set for us too. And we've always said we

825
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: we will let each of us go spread their wings

826
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: and you know, go do what you want to do.

827
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: We know there's power in numbers, but you never know,

828
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: one of us may have that moment that just shines,

829
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: you know. Brian Brian did have it in the Christian world.

830
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: He won multiple Dove Awards, which is the equivalent to

831
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: a Grammy in the Christian market, So it can be done,

832
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: but not that nice little Grammy. That's an interesting question.

833
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: I think people would because again, everything is driven by

834
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: data and money, right. Yeah, man, you guys make the

835
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: right movie, people are gonna go see it, obviously. What

836
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: else is really interesting to me is like Neil port

837
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Now used to work at Jive Records, and we were

838
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: with Jive Records. So whenever I see Neil, I'm like, Neil,

839
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: what's up, buddy? You know, are we Is it gonna

840
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: be our thirtieth? Is it gonna be our twenty seventh?

841
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be our twenty? Like? What's it gonna be?

842
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: And he just always smiles with that, with that nice

843
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: silver beard in those glasses. But I'm like, again, I

844
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: think we're on this ing here. I think if you

845
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: did do like a raw biopic and make it just

846
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: raw and emotional, what people are expecting the same way

847
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: with the movie. As you're talking about the music, Yeah,

848
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: like you know, you go you could do original music

849
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: as well as go in and rerecord, which we've we've

850
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: actually rerecorded a bunch of our music already, um for

851
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: legal reasons. UM kind of like no, we we have

852
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: a secret project up our sleeve. Um. I hopefully, hopefully

853
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: we'll be out next year. Um. When we made the

854
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: DNA album, we also made another album. But I can't

855
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: say what's on it. But I can say that a

856
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Polka album spanulm that was seeing I'm telling us in

857
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: US and weird Al duet would be fantastic. That's the

858
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: weird I'll ever do any Backstree stuff. Yes he did. Uh,

859
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: I bought it on eBay as opposed to I wanted

860
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: that way. Um. He put Backstreets Back in one of

861
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: his Polka um songs um, which was amazing, and I

862
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: believe it came after like a White Snake song and

863
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: it was it was like a weird transition. But he

864
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: did Backstreets Back. Um. I think he did a third one,

865
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I feel like, but yeah, he's like back in the day,

866
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: like if either Weird Al parody like did any kind

867
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: of parody with you or or or Bibs and butthead

868
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: had you on the show, like then you were like

869
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: super super cool so and weird I was an amazing

870
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: guy at least, I mean that guy's got a lot

871
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: of Grammys. I'm just saying that guy, he's got a

872
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: lot of Grammy. We got just a few more minutes here.

873
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm not that funny though, So let me ask you

874
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: a few let's so here's I wrote down some notes

875
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. I've always wondered the financial part of being

876
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: in a group asking A lot of my friends are

877
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: in band and so you know, they have a company

878
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: and the company gets paid and they split it. And

879
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: also something with artists, a country artists is that people

880
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: just assume once they're on the radio they start to

881
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: get rich immediately, like it's as bad at something. It

882
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. That's just not true. Where did the

883
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: fame and then where did the fame of the money

884
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: actually meet? Because I'm assuming you would be famous for

885
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: a while before you actually got I think, honestly, like

886
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: it'll always go back to the Millennium album. I feel

887
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: like ninety nine is when things really kind of came

888
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: to a head, you know, because we're doing our show

889
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: is in the round, so we're doing domes, we're doing stadiums,

890
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: we're doing all these things, multiple arena Knights guarantees were

891
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: the highest they've ever been. But again, that's a different

892
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: time where like a person could sell one point three

893
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: or one point five million albums the first week week week. Now,

894
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: if you sell a quarter of a quarter of a

895
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: million albums first week, you're gonna go to number one.

896
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's it's completely different now, you know. Like

897
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: I was reading about Taylor and you know she like

898
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: there was like two two forty, and then Tool came

899
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: out with theirs and it was like two sixty six,

900
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, like, wait, two forty for Taylor.

901
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: But again, that's the new standard. I mean, it's completely

902
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: different now, even though she's still gonna go out and

903
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: sell out stadiums and she's beyond talented. I bought both albums.

904
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Tool and I'm a huge

905
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: Taylor fan because of my kids. That Tool record was nuts, right,

906
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: wasn't so good? It's so good? I mean I fifteen

907
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: minute songs on it too, Like every other track was

908
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes plus. It's you know, going back to their

909
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: first records when I was growing up, Like I became

910
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: a fan of them run around the same time that

911
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I really started listening to a lot of like slip

912
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Knot and just I kind of went in this weird

913
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: direction musically as a fan. And then they just kind

914
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: of stopped and I was like, all right, man. And

915
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: when I heard they were making a new record, I

916
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: got stupid excited. I was like, this is gonna be

917
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: interesting and saying with like Radiohead, like I mean, massive

918
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: Radiohead fan. I don't know if if if if if

919
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: you've seen I don't know the name of the song,

920
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: but they have a new video about Radiohead. That's just

921
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: it's it's a thirteen minute video. It's unbelievable. It's all choreographed.

922
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: It is the most It's one of the most beautiful

923
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: videos I think I've ever seen ever since Weapon a Choice,

924
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: which was one of my all time top three videos.

925
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: Spike Jones, I mean, Christopher walkin dancing is one of

926
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: the most iconic things you'll ever see in your life.

927
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I mean, it's weird how the numbers

928
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: have changed so much now compared to what it was

929
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. You know, a million albums sold first

930
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: week or first day, you know, I think eminem didn't

931
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: like three days, just doesn't that will never happen again. Ever,

932
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: that's a whole different time that will never ever come

933
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: back to ever. You know, you bring up Radiohead, and

934
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: I like Tom York. I like Radiohead. You know, it's

935
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: growing up when we did and you're in that scene.

936
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Radiohead kind end of created a lane for other people

937
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: to jump in and out of. But they they had

938
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: definitely had their own lane. Oh yeah, And they don't

939
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: play creep, right, They just they don't play creep. You

940
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: know that you can't go to radio if you could

941
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: not do one song, if you could creep one song,

942
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: what would you do? It would be quick playing games.

943
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, if you don't do

944
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I want it that way, fans are gonna probably stampede

945
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: the stage. Um, you know. Like I was fortunate enough

946
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: to go see Prince one night before he passed away

947
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: years ago, and he did four encores just to mess

948
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: with people, because by the end of the of the

949
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: first set he didn't do a Purple Rain and people

950
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: were mad as hell, And he came out for the

951
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: first encore and just died Purple Rain and then left,

952
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: didn't do when Doves Cry came out, and like just

953
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: kept keeping people into it and I was like, Okay,

954
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: thank god, because you know, if you come to a

955
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: Batchet Boy concert and you don't see these certain songs.

956
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: But what we've found a way to do it so

957
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: it appieces our fans and it also gets out of

958
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: our head after so many times doing it. Is you

959
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: do Medley's or you do remixes of the songs. Um,

960
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: but my creep would be quit playing games. I mean,

961
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 1: that's that's why we've done since the very first Red

962
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: album back in ninety ninety seven. Yeah. I just there's

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: no amount of remix for that song to be cool

964
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: to me anymore. I just just I'm over it. How's

965
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: your body with the dancing? I've had knee surgery on

966
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: both my knees. Um, probably gonna have to have it

967
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: done again. Um. You know, surprisingly we're all in pretty

968
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: decent shape for all being forty plus knicks not forty yet,

969
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be sooner than later. Um, you know,

970
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: we we definitely pop a lot more. I'd be profen

971
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: after the show. And UM, I actually partnered up recently

972
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: with a pharmaceutical company, UM called Yva, and we're we're

973
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: putting out two different products. One is for pain management,

974
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: all CBD based and the and the one that's for

975
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: pain management. I've literally give to all my boys. Now

976
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: it's a topical cream. And I tell you what, man,

977
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I kicked that stuff on after every show now and

978
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I am a million I feel like a million bucks. Um.

979
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: But uh, you know we do the ice bath stuff,

980
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know. Then then the nice thing

981
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: about this this new show is it's paced so well

982
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: that we have a nice big gap in the middle

983
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: where we're not dancing at all, and we can just

984
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: kind of get that energy built back up to just

985
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: take it home for the whole last act. Like Vegas

986
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: that was just go go go dance, dance, dance, dance.

987
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: That that definitely hurt me a lot more than this

988
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: particular show right now. So, do you guys have what

989
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: they call a B MIC B dance something else where

990
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: you can talk to everyone in their ears while this

991
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: show is happening. We um, well, well, or do you

992
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: have a button? Like how are you guys communicating? We

993
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: so like we we started really messing with each other

994
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: on this on this last leg, especially Howie God bless Howe.

995
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: We love the death I love that dude, but he

996
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: gets nervous still to this day, he gets nervous, especially

997
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: in cities where like if like La in New York,

998
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: he gets nervous, or if he's got family coming out

999
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: or any of his like you know, celebrity friends. Whatever

1000
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: he gets, he gets nervous. I'm like, dude, we've been

1001
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: doing this for twenty six years, you still get nervous.

1002
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, So we each talk individually during the

1003
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: course of the show, and he's the first one or

1004
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: the second one to talk, and then he does a

1005
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: little bit of a solo song from our album. That

1006
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: way we can get more new songs in the show.

1007
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: And three different times he called the song on the

1008
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: wrong name, and so now we're purposely telling him the

1009
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: wrong name in his ears while we're quick changing, We're like,

1010
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: it's chances. The song is called shat till we're like,

1011
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: how he chances chances, And we just keep we keep

1012
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: messing with each other. Kevin doesn't have any patience for it.

1013
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: If Nick messes with Kevin, he'll put Nick on blast

1014
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: on stage. I'd be like, Oh, Nick's talking much crap

1015
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: in my ears right now, Sorry, I gotta pull these

1016
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: out because I can't pay attention me talking to you guys,

1017
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: So we definitely like to mess with each other quite

1018
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: a lot. Do you guys think to click track or

1019
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: do you just have it all down at this point

1020
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: it's all The only one that we have a click

1021
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: with is the a cappella, just so we don't lose time,

1022
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, even though we got our in ears in

1023
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: that particular song, we're out over the audience about twenty

1024
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: feet up in the air, so it's a lot of

1025
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: slap back if we don't. Aside from that, we have

1026
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: a click on a couple different things. If if it's

1027
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: a bare bones intro where it's just you're coming in

1028
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: on that first on that first line, you got to

1029
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: know where it's starting. Aside from that, No, usually there's

1030
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: a good like thirty forty second intro musically that just

1031
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: gets you into a song. But we have a couple

1032
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: of songs that have clicks for sure. All right speed round?

1033
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: What was the last concert yet to buy tickets for?

1034
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: H Taylor Swift? The last movie you saw in theater

1035
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: it Chapter two, which you think loved it? What was

1036
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: something that did live up to the hype? Um that

1037
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: did live up to that did live up to the hype. Huh,

1038
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I have to say yeasies, Yeah, they're all I did

1039
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: not want to like them, and they are very comfortable.

1040
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: I did not want to like him, and my wife

1041
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: is like why. I'm like, don't ask what is your

1042
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: most humbling while it's totally wrong about that person? Moment

1043
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: totally wrong? Who are you wrong about it? And you're like,

1044
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: oh man, they're actually are pretty cool or they're not

1045
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: pretty cool or wow, um Tom Brady, Um, I'm married

1046
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: into a Steelers family, so I have to stick to

1047
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: that or I'll be disowned. But um, when I got

1048
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: to meet Tom, I because I just did not like

1049
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots because they just they won't let anybody else win.

1050
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: It's like for crying out loud gives them else a chance.

1051
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: And then like knowing more about him and knowing that

1052
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: he takes a pay cut and that the rest of

1053
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: the team gets more money and his wife makes more

1054
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: money than him, but he's all about charity and this

1055
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: and he's just this, like he's such a good guy,

1056
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: Like you can't not like him. And then when I

1057
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: met him, I'm like, damn, you really are this nice.

1058
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: You got that pretty smile too, You're killing me, Bro,

1059
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: that'd be there. He's such a such a great guy.

1060
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: All right. Final one, what piece of advice from an

1061
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: artist has stayed with you the longest your career? Someone said, hey,

1062
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: listen here, I have the perfect answer for that. We

1063
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: opened up for the remaining members of the Temptations at

1064
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: a festival back in Orlando years ago, like nineteen ninety

1065
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: five or six, and after we finished, the founding member

1066
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: shaked our hands and said we did a great job.

1067
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: And he said, just want you boys to remember something.

1068
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: This is show business. It's called that for a reason

1069
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: because while you're on stage doing your show, your business

1070
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: could be walking out the back door behind your back.

1071
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: So just always remember that. And I guess that was

1072
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: a prelude to what ended up happening to us through

1073
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: our career with lou and everything else. But it's show business.

1074
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: Always keep an eye on your back. Well, good luck

1075
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: recording the record. Thank you man. Which song Let's let's

1076
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: hash this out here. Which of these three songs, because

1077
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: I'll do it, don't tell you, but we had this

1078
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: talk all those that this will be in everybody. I'll know, yeah,

1079
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: but unless they don't know. But so, which of these

1080
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: songs would you like me to play? I'm gonna let

1081
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you pick and don't tell you what we're doing this outwardly, right, Okay,

1082
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be like, because again we're on a

1083
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty radio stations, my show is, and

1084
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: we have enough people listening that I can I feel

1085
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: like the sample size will reflect back if they like

1086
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: the song without knowing exactly who it is. Which of

1087
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: the songs Night Visions, Boy and a Man or Give

1088
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: You Away? Would you like me to conduct that experiment

1089
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: with you pick? Wow? Ah, I would say Boy and

1090
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: a Man. Okay, Yeah, that's the deal. We're gonna that's

1091
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Yeah, So probably next week or so,

1092
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let this breathe a little bit. Yeah, and

1093
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna play Boy and a Man and I'm

1094
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: just gonna set it up and go I don't even

1095
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: tell it's not out of what I've done before. So

1096
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: everyone's like, like, what is happening. I'm like, hey, we

1097
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: got another one. I'm gonna tell you who it is.

1098
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: You just tell them if you like the song, cool,

1099
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: hit me up, and uh, let's see what happens. I'm

1100
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna get your number, and then you're gonna text me

1101
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: and tell me what the end result is. I want

1102
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: to know. Well, the end result is it takes a while, right, well, yeah,

1103
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: it's not nobody even calls radio station. That's not any thing.

1104
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious to see over time, like what

1105
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: you can feel after about a couple of days, you

1106
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: can really want to know. I want to know, so

1107
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: mine remember that we're gonna do Boy the man got it,

1108
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: and we're gonna play it. We're not gonna say anything

1109
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: about it. And I think that'd be a good experiment. Awesome,

1110
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: and I like that. And while I'm here as I

1111
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: cut these songs, when I get these things nicely fine

1112
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: tune this week, I'll start sending you some more stuff

1113
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: and you tell me what you think. I don't want Nope,

1114
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Okay, you want to

1115
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: be surprised. I in my general rule, and this is

1116
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: how I can keep friends in this world. I don't

1117
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: listen to anything new ever. I mean, if it's not

1118
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: out with're my listeners right here, yes, I won't listen

1119
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: to it. Okay, ever, okay, good, as much as much

1120
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: as you know, yeah, because then you can get jaded

1121
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: about it, or you can get or biased, and then

1122
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slop. Everybody wants to yeah, because you

1123
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: don't want to. I love you. Oh no, I get

1124
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: it's get here. It is. Yeah, there's the line. And

1125
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: if I if I stay consistent then yeah, you know right,

1126
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: consistency is currency. Then I'm jealous. Mine's literally coming tomorrow,

1127
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: the new iPhone. Do you like it? Have you really

1128
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: messed with it yet? I don't know that I've messed

1129
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: with it enough. Mike has one too, and he thinks

1130
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: the camera is freaking cameras really good on it. That well, see,

1131
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: like that's their biggest selling point. Like I this is

1132
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: the longest I've actually had an iPhone, to the point

1133
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: where I actually ran my contract out, so I'm getting

1134
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: money back by getting the preodor done. But what's crazy

1135
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: to me is I was beta testing the new iOS

1136
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: thirteen on my eleven worst idea I've ever done in

1137
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: my life. Too much for it's it's it is throwing

1138
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: my phone so much out of whack. So no to anyone,

1139
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: don't beat a test the new iOS before you get

1140
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: the new phone. The stickers are cool, like the emojis,

1141
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: you can send emojis that your own head yeah neat. Yeah,

1142
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: but again, I'm sure there's so much about it. Yeah,

1143
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: but I mean I've been trying to get all the

1144
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: research done before I get mine, so I know what

1145
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But it's it's probably so much more. But

1146
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: it looks it actually looks cool. And I was worried

1147
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: about how we would look with this with the lens. Yeah, yeah,

1148
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: that is pretty freaking sweet. And I'm blind and I

1149
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: had to get Yeah. Well, it's like once you go big,

1150
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: you can't go downsize, like you don't know someone. That's

1151
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: not the case with the ladies, but yeah, like no

1152
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: one nobody buys in as Clayton then goes and gets

1153
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: a smart cart like it's yeah, it's the other way. Well, listen,

1154
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: my friend, we're gonna because I had a friend hit

1155
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: me up who works for ABC. I don't know even know,

1156
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: do you do? We know how this all got together

1157
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: here because I had a friend works RABC. It's an executive.

1158
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I do shows for ABC. Right, They're like, hey, I'm

1159
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: friends with aj Um and I'm like, dude, I've met

1160
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: a j twice. It's been awesome to me. It was

1161
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: before we saw each other in Vegas, right, it was like,

1162
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: love to have him buy we do you know this

1163
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: long form show that gets a ton of podcast downloads

1164
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: we played on the radio two. I would love to

1165
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: have him come by and just kind of talk a

1166
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit. My first time met he was at the Rhyman.

1167
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: That's right. I was yeah, and then no, I guess

1168
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: also Darius. Yeah, yeah, you're Darius. And then I went

1169
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: up and I did I want it that way? And

1170
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: then uh, did you ever see the photo of me

1171
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: in your parking space? Yeah? I was like, you're all

1172
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: your broyes, yes, yes, so uh and it was like

1173
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: what about AJ? I was like, dude, I'm gonna tell

1174
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: one day. I would love to see him. Yeah, and

1175
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time. Now it's it's

1176
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: it's been great. Well, okay, we're gonna leave it at this.

1177
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. You're in town cutting a record.

1178
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: Let me know if you need a good uber driver. Okay,

1179
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: bringing man, I love it. Uh, we're done, Mike. You're good.

1180
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Anything you want to anything with you, we're good. All right.

1181
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: There is episode two O one. AJ McClain give me

1182
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: a time. I don't need a date, but you're trying

1183
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: to get this body of work out by win, like

1184
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: what's the goal by top of the year? Um album titles,

1185
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: long road, um and uh you know, I was trying

1186
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: to do it this year, but just I just want

1187
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: to take my time and do this right. So top

1188
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: of the Year January is, Mom, we're looking at having

1189
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: the album out. Do you play guitar? I am learning

1190
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: right now. UM, my player that travels with you, I do.

1191
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: My MD has been helped me and whatnot. I played drums, um,

1192
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: but um and a little bit of piano. Um, I

1193
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: play harmonica, but I don't. I've always wanted to learn

1194
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: how to play guitar, even before this whole thing started,

1195
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: Like it's just been my passion. My daughter is taking

1196
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: lessons and she's got better chops than I do. She's

1197
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: six and she can play better than I can right now.

1198
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I definitely, I definitely want to learn.

1199
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: On CMA Country Christmas, which you're gonna be at this week?

1200
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you part of the show? I am literally,

1201
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I was invited by you know, CMA just

1202
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: to come and just enjoy the show. So I'm just

1203
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: sitting and come out and have some fun and just

1204
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: enjoy some good Christmas music, and it'd be good for

1205
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: you to be around, like listen, you just around people.

1206
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: As you know, it's all relationships people like you know,

1207
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: I like that guy. Let me, let me give a

1208
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: little opening and see if people then it's like how

1209
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: good as is it actually exactly you know it is.

1210
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm a social butterfly and I just love people,

1211
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: so they're fun right from the airport over Here, Episode

1212
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: two of one A J. McClean, good to see you,

1213
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: buy you two brother,