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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty four, episode

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Speaker 1: two of dar Daily's Eight Guys YEA for March two

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Speaker 1: thousand eight. Team, my name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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Speaker 1: Captain Jack will get O'Brien tonight. That is courtesy of

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Speaker 1: Jordan Fenced and Billy Joel, and I am thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yes a k A hashtag justice for Alton Sterling because

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Speaker 1: today we found out that the Louisiana Attorney General will

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Speaker 1: not file criminal charges against the two police officers who

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Speaker 1: basically shot a man selling blueleg CDs on a street corner.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, shout out to you State Louisiana. And by that,

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Speaker 1: I mean what the fun is going on? But yes, hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. I just wanted to fit that

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Speaker 1: But I still need to let people know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: being black is a executional offense sometimes in this country.

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Speaker 1: So no, no play is on your name. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm using Gray. Uh okay, I mean just to lighten

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Speaker 1: it up, Gray away, Gray Away Gray? Wait, there we go.

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Speaker 1: The Orinoco Flow by Enya and we are thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat. But the very funny

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Speaker 1: comedian Casey Lie. Hello, everybody, welcome back back back, back

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Speaker 1: back again. Happy to be here, Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to have you. What is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that will tell our listeners a little bit

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Speaker 1: about you? Um, I have something in my search history.

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Speaker 1: I was just um searching drag queen from RuPaul's Drag

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Speaker 1: Race Again. I probably talk about this last time a

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Speaker 1: little bit, But there's a drag queen that's my favorite name,

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Speaker 1: Thorgie Thor, and everyone um kind of hates her. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out there and say that I'm

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Speaker 1: on Thorgy Thor about thorg I wanted to look up

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Speaker 1: her good qualities because everyone on the internet always talking

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Speaker 1: about how she um sucks as soon as your head

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Speaker 1: is so petty and all that stuff. And I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I just think that she's smarter than everyone else. And

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Speaker 1: then all I could find where memes of her like

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Speaker 1: She is she really petty? Like? Is she indefensible? No? No,

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Speaker 1: she's not indefensible she's the best. Um. But she was

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Speaker 1: on v H one, And um, she is a very smart,

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Speaker 1: weird person who just feels like the world is out

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Speaker 1: to get her. And you know what, probably it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes when you're better than everyone else,

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Speaker 1: everyone just comes for you all the time. And then

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Speaker 1: all of sometimes all the memes that you get turned

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Speaker 1: into our those memes which have you, um being like

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Speaker 1: this bitch sucks and that bitch sucks, which sucks. But

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Speaker 1: so hey, this goes out, this this search history thing

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Speaker 1: goes out to all of the people who are just

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Speaker 1: who just know they're smarter and better than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: What is something that's underrated? Something that's underrated is the

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Speaker 1: power of sex workers. UM And I'm sure you've talked

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Speaker 1: about Storby Daniels and two much, but um, I just

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Speaker 1: people who may be part of like leading the resistance

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Speaker 1: to against the Trump administration hashtag not one sided. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Your listeners have come in many shapes and forms and

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Speaker 1: and political stances and all that that being said, um,

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Speaker 1: to end gun violence in America, you have this very

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Speaker 1: articulate and large breasted, beautiful sex worker who is completely

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Speaker 1: shameless and shameless in the best form, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is shameless in the worst form. He has

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Speaker 1: It's crazy too because when you bring up sex workers,

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Speaker 1: is such a weird I mean, America such a weird place,

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Speaker 1: that's just about like drunk, rowdy people get so much

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Speaker 1: What is something that you think is overrated? I think

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Speaker 1: the state of Oregon is overrated. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: A lot of white people are going to come from me.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I'm sorry, Jack. You come you come

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Speaker 1: from You come from an overrated state. Then you moved

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Speaker 1: And that's basically the story of Oregon. Right. Oh and

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Speaker 1: that seriously. Um casey, what is a myth? What's something

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Speaker 1: let's get into this. So I am HIV positive, and

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Speaker 1: the documents, documents, they would follow. They would follow these

425
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: people and they would like go out to a gas station,

426
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: pull their car up next to the gas pump, not

427
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: pump any gas, walk off like into a field, do

428
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: laps around this tree like three times, and then go

429
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: back to their car. And then like another car of

430
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: Russian diplomats would do the same. This is how Russians

431
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: exercise every just Russian cardo. But it's just like soci

432
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: would call in the intelligence community tradecraft and they kind

433
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: of marked all these different places where they were doing

434
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: this weird ship on a map, and they said that

435
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: they think they're either nodes of fiber optics that are

436
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: passing underground that they're basically like figuring out how to

437
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: interfere with, or their paths that spy planes are flying over,

438
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: and they're basically transmitting stuff up to the spy plants.

439
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: But it's just interesting context for all this like Seattle

440
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: stuff is that the last consulate we closed it was

441
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: for ship like this, like just like really weird sort

442
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: of almost stereotypical tradecraft stuff going on. What's weird too,

443
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: because like the reason is because it's proximity to like

444
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: a US nuclear submarine base and like the Boeing manufacturing

445
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: like plants and stuff, So damn like what's weird shit, Like, Okay,

446
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: we got we got the subs figured out. It's just

447
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: hard to like handle, like to know that all of

448
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: these agents are clearly operating within our country and to

449
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: think that we similarly have something going on over there,

450
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: But to know that we're being led by people whose

451
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: intentions are unclear on our side, you know, or at

452
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: least it feels that way. It's like I just want

453
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: to know what is happening, like because I feel like

454
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: we are either super vulnerable, which is clear, we've been

455
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: vulnerable to some forms of espionage, um, but like, what

456
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: are they trying to do beyond influence our elections and

457
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: or get a man Charian candidate in there who may

458
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: already be in there. Well, it's all like a technological

459
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: arms race. Like it's basically in everything arms race. There's weapons,

460
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: there's technology AI, and we're all racing against each other.

461
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: And so anytime one of our you know, best and

462
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: brightest comes up with something, even if it's in the

463
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: private sphere, they're going to try and steal the secrets.

464
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: Stephanie Rule, she's an MSNBC contributor, and she said to me,

465
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: she was like, Trump doesn't even know what AI is.

466
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: He thinks it's a steak sauce. She's a sick burner.

467
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that. And that's it's like, there's

468
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: so many complicated issues and all we are ever talking

469
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: about is just like pps in wear wares exactly. Well,

470
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: the thing is too with these like with these expulsions.

471
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: It keep in mind, it's the least we could do

472
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: in response to all of this, you know what I mean,

473
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Speaker 1: Like we did this to be not left out of

474
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Speaker 1: a really like broad coalition of other countries who were

475
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Speaker 1: taking action against Russia. Although the number I think was

476
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: pretty high. It's the highest. But if you on paper,

477
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: we kicked out spies, right, so we should do that. Yeah, cool, yeah, yeah,

478
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: that's the lead. Yeah if if I'm tough on gather spine. Meanwhile,

479
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: I don't see any sanctions on fucking Putin himself, you

480
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, or like other oligarchs around him

481
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: that could really get him his ass in a fucking grind?

482
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Are they getting the next World Cup? Like the World

483
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: Cup is in Russia? But it's just happening. It's just happening,

484
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: and we're going and everyone is not the US foresaw

485
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Russia and you know what, we're not even go out

486
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: of protest where we will fail to qualify. But devoted

487
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: in Italy and so did the Netherlands, so they're onto

488
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: something like England is England going. England is did qualify

489
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: but there was talk of not going, but like then

490
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: every English football sam was like, yeah, okay, we're not

491
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: going to woke up now, but they could be in hell.

492
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the world that we live in now,

493
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: where it's like nothing really matters. Because if this was

494
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: the eighties, of course, like we wouldn't be the UK

495
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: wouldn't be going because there was a real serious threat

496
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: coming from our nuclear foe, the Soviet Union. But now

497
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean they met an elections and because

498
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: he's people, but like we love football, there's really and

499
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: their level of sucking around isn't quite reached the egregious

500
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: levels of people like, okay, we have to do it,

501
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: just like is it worth trying to do? They took

502
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: they literally annexed part of Europe and then we have

503
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: the Olympics there, you know, and it's just like that's

504
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: where we are right now, where it's it's hard to

505
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: convince a population that really terrible things are happening or

506
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: and or are these really terrible things? It was crimea

507
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: really part of Russia that just wanted to be back,

508
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, And that's like the world like there is

509
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: no real actual fact or answer or anything because everything

510
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: is disputed by a slew of other information. Well, one

511
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: fact that is probably undisputable is, like, you know, every

512
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: time there's been sort of expulsions like this, there's expulsions

513
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: in kind from Russia. They're like tip for tat explosions,

514
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: and so they're most likely it's going to happen again.

515
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: The only time it hasn't happened was when Obama did

516
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: it in and that was probably because Michael Flynn was like,

517
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't worry about broad don't worry about this broad right,

518
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to look at, because that

519
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: really is one of the few times I think, maybe

520
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: one of the only times where there wasn't in kind

521
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: expulsions or or clap backs from Russia. Did they kill that? Yeah,

522
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: they killed that that British he's still him? Is our

523
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: so critical? Okay? But like and we're like giving them

524
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: playing tickets to go home, right, you know, I mean,

525
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: like that's that's how we're fighting in kind, and like,

526
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying we should poison their spies,

527
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: but no, it does feel like we're not playing I

528
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, we're not playing with the same game.

529
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, sprinkle a little salmonilla on their salad bar, right,

530
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're yeah, it's true. We're definitely not doing

531
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: enough to combat like the election meddling, and every expert

532
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: and even in the Department of Defense has been saying

533
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: that they're like, bro, we're not really doing anything to

534
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: combat this, aside from like, yeah, we'll sanction people that

535
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: were already being sanctioned. Yeah, we'll expel spies. Of course,

536
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: just let Daddy meel or take control. We just want

537
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Daddy millar. So I mean, speaking of sort of the

538
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: way that the tenor of these things has changed. The

539
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Russian embassies have Twitter accounts that are essentially like trolls. Ye,

540
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: like representative of a fucking government. These are like, they said,

541
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: US ambassadors ordered the closure of the Russian consulate in Seattle.

542
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: What US consulate general would you close in Russia if

543
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: it was up to you to decide? And they just

544
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: did a Twitter poll and and I think they're going

545
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: to go with the answer St. Peter was St. Petersburg. Yeah,

546
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: it's weird that their response, Okay, we're closing down at

547
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: your consulate, your spies are getting kicked out, and then

548
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: they get petty like, oh well, which one should we close?

549
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Fans tell me Russia Hive take this poll and decide

550
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: which one we should close. In response, yeah, and they

551
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: tweeted a picture of what's the inspector Poiro from Agatha Christie. Yeah,

552
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: very famous inspector BBS BBC. David Shoes was the actor.

553
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: And so when we accused them of poisoning this guy

554
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: and his daughter. To the New York Times podcast this

555
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: morning had a description of it was really horrifying, like

556
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: people just came up on them and they said they

557
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: were sitting on this bench just frozen where they were

558
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: the two people who had been poisoned with their eyes

559
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: wide open but like completely white because they were rolled

560
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: back in their heads and just like frozen and in

561
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: a coma after getting hit, after getting hit with their

562
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: agent nerve agent. And then they do they remember how

563
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: they got hit with it? No, and they I think

564
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: they I think they found out that it was something

565
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: when they eat something where they ate because they had

566
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of all this stuff at this restaurant

567
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: and throughout the mall because it had all been exposed

568
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: to this toxin. They had to throw cars away because

569
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: then they had to take the bench out too. Didn't

570
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: they that they were on that. See, and that's why

571
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Trump is onto something because he only eats at fucking McDonald's,

572
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: where you can never be poison you get poisoned in

573
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: a different way. Long term, he seems to be thriving. Yeah,

574
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: he's the healthiest come on then we've ever had. According

575
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: to that might be his pillow to live forever is

576
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: eating too Big Max? That was I got it wrong. Yeah,

577
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I've been taking this goddamn pill one today and I've

578
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: been eating Big Max and chicken wings, chicken fingers what

579
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: do they call them? Chicken in a while? Man of

580
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the people. Yea. But yeah, so after the two people

581
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: get hit, they post a picture of poar Row and

582
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: the embassy and UK official has in absenceive evidence, we

583
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: definitely need poi Row and Salisbury on the case, Like

584
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: what the fun fucking people were poison like a political

585
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: hit job or attempted hit job, and you just want

586
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: to get cheeky and be like, okay, hit him with

587
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the Sherlock Holmes mean the pot role me That is

588
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: funny is their taste in television is the same as

589
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: young hipsters and my grandmother's because those the only people

590
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: who watched Inspector parrow Um. Also, it is nuts that

591
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: they used a nerve agent that only the Russian army has,

592
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: so they're like it was us, but you can't. Can

593
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: you prove? We're going to get away with it? See

594
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna what you're gonna do? Like that, they're taunting us.

595
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: We're not doing anything. Oh whoever could have? Yeah? Who

596
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: could have done that? Another tweet from the Russian embassy

597
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: in the UK is in today's paper Pundits call on

598
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: tersa mad to disrupt possible Russia US thaw, no trust

599
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: in Britain's best friend and ally, and then a picture

600
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: of Peppe the fraud Oh my gosh, like yeah, like stroking,

601
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: like um so cool. They like to use what has

602
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: become now racist. It's just crazy that Russia's consulates and

603
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: embassies are tweeting in like the exact same voice as

604
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the conservative media and like conservative trolls. It's like identically.

605
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: It's insane. There is zero doubt in my mind that

606
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: it's collusion, collusion, collusion, collusion. Like there's like it's not

607
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: hard for the like smart people like those people in

608
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: the Russian consulates to like see what's going on. And

609
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: to um appropriate the language being used. But also like

610
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that there are not people on

611
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: the ground here, whether they be spies or just trade tourists,

612
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Americans who are much more conservative and feel like liberals

613
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: are the true enemy, like working somehow in tandem with

614
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: these people, like prove me wrong. That's the thing, par

615
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Row proved me wrong, par Row. I mean, it could

616
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: also just be that they're both really good at trolling,

617
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: and like they've seen that the way that they troll

618
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: is effective, the way the other side trolls is effective.

619
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: So you don't think that the right has any sort

620
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: of communication with these people whatsoever, Like that, I don't

621
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: know the alt right leaders of some for you don't

622
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: think there's some alt right leaders in America who are

623
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: colluding with Russians to put out this type of stuff.

624
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't know. I haven't seen

625
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: evidence of it. Yeah, I'd be interested, But it's like,

626
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: but we it's interesting, like they haven't really done a real,

627
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: at least for my knowledge, like a real forensic study

628
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: of Reddit, because they say on the Donald Trump that

629
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: are the Donald. There's a lot of like Russian that

630
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that where they go to feed their watering.

631
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: A lot of the alt right is unknowingly represented by

632
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: like Russians and stuff, and like there are people who

633
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: are like, you know, commenting as all right, people who

634
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: are actually just you know, working in Putin's like internet search,

635
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Speaker 1: internet researching. What is their endgame? What do you think

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Speaker 1: is their their endgame? Just so discord, So what is

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Speaker 1: to just crumble American society? Yeah, as much as I

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Speaker 1: guess breakdown people's faith in this democracy. And also if

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Speaker 1: it's enough chaos here that means we can't keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on what they're doing at And do you think

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Speaker 1: that that's possible that people this endgame that do you

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Speaker 1: There was a poll about how people were bec I

643
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: forget what it was that there was like a surprising

644
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: number growing number of people who aren't quite sure, like

645
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: their faith in the country's all governance system is all

646
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: of our institutions are losing. There's no faith in any

647
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: sort of institution whatsoever. And then we have a person

648
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: in power who is sewing discord and all the exacerbating purposefully.

649
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Speaker 1: That's the thing that why I'm saying, like it's hard

650
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Speaker 1: for me to believe that there is not some sort

651
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Speaker 1: of conclusion. Is Donald Trump just singularly the most perfect

652
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Speaker 1: person that they could have gotten into power because he's

653
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: such a moronic figure and he's doing this because of

654
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: narcissism to create zero faith in these institutions, because that's

655
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: what his instincts are. Or is there some sort of

656
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: like tandem process going on. I don't know. I mean,

657
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: I think he just naturally is I think this is

658
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: how he would have operated with or without like a

659
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: distinct mission or whatever in mind. I'm starting to believe

660
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Speaker 1: that that's not real. I'm starting to believe that he's

661
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: a legitimentarian candidate. I'm not I'm serious on this. I

662
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: think he I think he's he's as bad as a

663
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Speaker 1: person who has ever been in this world, and and

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Speaker 1: he's working with a group of people from from the

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Speaker 1: Russian side who want to who want who have offered him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's dumb enough and narcissistant enough to be

667
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Speaker 1: like to be offered a bunch of ships from them

668
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Speaker 1: and will do it. And they probably have something on him,

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00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: like pep tapes and all that stuff too. But like,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how like this perfect storm is creating

671
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Speaker 1: this because um it's so effective. YEA, well, I think

672
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: there's enough evidence to make any conclusions sort of believable.

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00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: I guess that's the most cynical one. And that's really

674
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Speaker 1: hard for me to wrap my head or it's hard

675
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: not wo like really like you just got somebody in

676
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: the White House like that and bringing it down from

677
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the inside terrified, just with regard to whether he has

678
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: done something specific and like brilliantly designed, either with Russia

679
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: or by himself. Just by the numbers, one and a

680
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: million people is going to get like crazy lucky once

681
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: in a while and just become president because they have

682
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the right shaped personality defect for like that moment in time.

683
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: And I guess that would be my question is whether

684
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Speaker 1: like he is able to survive and stay in the

685
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: media because his personality defect is just exactly right for

686
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: a world that just happened to evolve into a place

687
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: where there's Twitter, where the media is defective the way

688
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: that our media is defective, and like will focus on

689
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: whoever is making the most noise. And you know, he

690
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: became famous because he is perfectly suited for those things.

691
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: So Roger Stone colluding with wiki leaks to release information

692
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Speaker 1: given to them by the Russia ends is not some

693
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: sort of grand plan too Well, I don't know. I'm

694
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Speaker 1: just saying that Trump might just be like a convenient

695
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: du fist for for them. And I'm also not coming

696
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Speaker 1: down like definitive. I'm just getting the other side of

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying it's just like it was

698
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: looking more and more like, um, like this is a

699
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: grand plan. And it's certainly it's certainly weird that we

700
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Speaker 1: keep catching them like wanting to set up back channels

701
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Speaker 1: with Russia ahead of the Trump presidency. It's like, well,

702
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: what did you guys want to talk about? Like we

703
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: we have all sorts of official channels to y'all can't

704
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: check ye spicy, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's

705
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: like we got our own little slack channel. We use

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Speaker 1: that all right. Well, well we'll find out soon enough.

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Speaker 1: I guess when this show is brought to you in Russia.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in a moment. And we're back, and uh,

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Speaker 1: interesting things we learned during the break when super producers

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Speaker 1: on A. Hosnier and Nick Stump are able to talk

711
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: is uh, first of all, that no other time can

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Speaker 1: no other times and including during the rest of the

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Speaker 1: work day, just during the break. So, uh, the Russian

714
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Speaker 1: double agents who were poisoned in the UK, apparently it's

715
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: been found that they were poisoned through their car, so

716
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: that's why that car was thrown away, as through their

717
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: car events apparently is how they delivered the nerve agent.

718
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: And then uh, you think it was like one of

719
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: those for Breeze clip lines the event and they're just

720
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: like like, it's just blown nerve guys. I mean, not

721
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: to make light of them right there, just just trying

722
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: to make sense of this crazy world. And then uh,

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Speaker 1: super producer Nick Stump pointed out that apparently four hundred

724
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Speaker 1: people in Congress voted for the Russian sanctions that have

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Speaker 1: yet to be implemented by the Trump administration. It was

726
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: nearly unanimous. Like I feel like like Dana Rohrabacher or

727
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: something like that was the person to vote against it.

728
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Speaker 1: No collusion, No collusion, right, So that's hey, But we'll

729
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Speaker 1: do the thing that we'll just renew the sanctions that

730
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Speaker 1: are existed, and then it looks like we're doing something.

731
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Speaker 1: We will kick out the people who need to get

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Speaker 1: kicked out, and look like we're doing something. Alright, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna cover a handful of stories here in the third section, quick, right, quick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So there was the school shooting in Maryland that we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I think last week. And you know, the n r

736
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Speaker 1: A has been psyched about the school shooting because it

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Speaker 1: was stopped by a hero with a gun, an armed guard,

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Speaker 1: right stopped the shooter. So young man went into his

739
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Speaker 1: high school, shot his ex girlfriend and then we'll stopped

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Speaker 1: by a hero with a gun. The school resource officer

741
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: took him out, right, is what the n r A

742
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: told everybody and got that information now real quick. However,

743
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: the truth is a tricky thing because apparently now that

744
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: in the Baltimore Sun that like the official reporting of

745
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: the incident shows that actually the shooter had actually killed himself. Uh,

746
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. I think the initial reporting had

747
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: said that the school resource officer did shoot the guy,

748
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: but what had happened was recording to the reporting quote,

749
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Speaker 1: their weapons went off at the same time. Ron shot

750
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Speaker 1: himself in the head and the school resource officer fired,

751
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: shooting Ron's in the hand. Officials said, uh, they said

752
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: that the shot that Ron's fired to his head was fatal.

753
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes the bad guy with the gun and the good

754
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: guy with the gun are going to be the same person.

755
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: And it's just the bad guy with a gun is

756
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: going to turn into the good guy with a gun

757
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: and shoot himself, thus stopping the bad guy with the gun.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the gymnastics are going to be

759
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: that the n A has to do. Now, They'll be

760
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: like he actually, through the power of telekinesis he Charles

761
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: Xavier the shooter and make control of his mind. Like

762
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's it's going to be interesting. Yeah,

763
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: they're one way or another. A gun took care of

764
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: the problem. That's how. Yeah, they're crazy cynical about all

765
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: this stuff and that good guy with a gun. There

766
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: was also a teacher who got in trouble because she

767
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: was caught being like I'm gonna blow up all of

768
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Speaker 1: my students or something like that. Like she was saying

769
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: as like kind of like a joke comparedly, but she

770
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: got like sent to jail because of texting it or

771
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: emailing it or something like that. And that goes to

772
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: the idea of like, oh, teachers should have guns because

773
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: teachers are better people than all of the rest of us. Know,

774
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: they're just normal people who were hating students sometimes too.

775
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: I've worked in schools. I've seen teachers snap, you know hard,

776
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: and like there's no way of doing with this except

777
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: by taking away everyone's guns. That's the solution. He speaking

778
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: of that. Uh, the former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens,

779
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: who we actually talked about on yesterday's episode of The

780
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist. We mentioned that he uh talked about the

781
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Speaker 1: Second Amendment being outdated in a dissenting opinion of a

782
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: two thousand eight Supreme Court decision. Uh that basically made

783
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: it so that the Second Amendment gave people the right

784
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Speaker 1: to you know, have guns and have handguns no matter

785
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: what wherever they wanted. Uh. So he wrote a op

786
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Speaker 1: ed in The New York Times today that was like, yeah, no,

787
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna outright call for a repeal of the

788
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Second Amendment, which is spicy. I mean, he's old enough

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Speaker 1: to have actually had conversations with George Washington, so I'm

790
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: pretty sure he has an expert on this. Yeah. I

791
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: actually have first information what the framers of the Constitution work,

792
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Speaker 1: and they were like, no, A K forty sevens promised

793
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Speaker 1: me that JP S promise you that. Okay, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I mean this is, on one hand, exactly what the

795
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Speaker 1: n r I wants. The n R I wants somebody

796
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: on the left calling for the taking back of their guns.

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Speaker 1: He was a Republican though, really he's just yeah, he

798
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: was a lifelong Republican. He was appointed by Republicans. He's

799
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: just become and he was like, my my views never changed.

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Speaker 1: The conservative views changed. Interesting, yeah, the Republicans views changed.

801
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: I was right down the middle of the entire time.

802
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Speaker 1: So that's like, I mean, I mean, you know, he's

803
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Speaker 1: a hundred and seven year old like former justice and

804
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: all that. But like I think he was nominated by

805
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Ford or something like that. But still, um, the n

806
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Speaker 1: r A has taken the gun debate similar to like

807
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: how like the Christian Conservatives took the abortion debate way

808
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: far to the right and aligned it with the Republican Party.

809
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: But like, um, it's not crazy nineties something like percent

810
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: of Americans want there to be stricter gun laws, just

811
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Speaker 1: like four hundred people in Congress wanted there to be

812
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: um or sanctions on Russia. Like the crazy uh, like

813
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, they're all right, So he's talking about the

814
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Speaker 1: deep state. You know, there's no deep state. There's a

815
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: completely well fashioned uh state right now that is working

816
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: against whatever the American people wants. And it's right in

817
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: front of our eyes. But there's nothing to do. I mean,

818
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Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to break and I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Our country is being torn apart literally by bullets and

820
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: by Twitter, and we can't do anything about it. For

821
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Speaker 1: whatever we are, yet we're failing to act on it.

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Speaker 1: That's why these kids like marching in Parkland. I mean,

823
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Speaker 1: whether it wasn't big enough to like to shake the world.

824
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a million people. It was only

825
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand people and stuff. But like these

826
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Speaker 1: kids don't care about what politicians are doing, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like Rick Santorum was like, oh, these kids, they should

828
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Speaker 1: be learning CPR. However, dumb. That is what he also

829
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Speaker 1: said was these kids want, oh they think like laws

830
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Speaker 1: are going to change their lives. They should be taking

831
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Speaker 1: action to actually change their lives themselves once democracy. Democracy

832
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Speaker 1: is like formulating large groups of people to make a

833
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: movement to change laws to make life better. Kid kids

834
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Speaker 1: who don't know being told what to do by Hollywood.

835
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Speaker 1: You know, Lady George Clooney and George Swords, a bunch

836
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Speaker 1: of George is trying to tell us what to do,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I really have a lot of faith

838
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: in this younger generation because that's the other thing is like,

839
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: we're living in the reality TV h Like our generation,

840
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: I don't even know what we are. I'm like late

841
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: millennial and we were raised in reality television. So nothing

842
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: what is real is not real because it's all produced

843
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: and all this. These kids are raised on Snapchat, their

844
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: their friends being killed in the next classroom next to them,

845
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Speaker 1: and that's the media that they're consuming and that's real.

846
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Speaker 1: So there, I honestly think that their reality is going

847
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Speaker 1: to be like as long as virtual reality doesn't take

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Speaker 1: hold before this all gets gone up, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: that their vision of what is really going on in

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Speaker 1: the world is realer than our generation and older generation

851
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Speaker 1: right now, and that gives me a lot of faith.

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Speaker 1: I think. I would just like to add a fact

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Speaker 1: about John Paul Stevens born on four yet is that true?

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Speaker 1: I was looking like, yeah, he was appointed by Gerald

855
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Speaker 1: Ford and then like years old, about to be ninety.

856
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Speaker 1: I was wondering why that article was so short. Yeah,

857
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Speaker 1: years old? But yeah, I mean he talked about the kids.

858
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Speaker 1: He was like, what these kids are doing is amazing

859
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and it's going to change the world, but they should

860
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Speaker 1: be asking for more. Basically, at his point, he's like,

861
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Speaker 1: don't just ask for a ban on a couple of

862
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: different types of weapons, and yeah, go hol hog, just

863
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: repeal the Second Amendment. It was built for a world

864
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Speaker 1: that no longer exists. It's absurd to keep what a

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Speaker 1: disgusting activist judge right, So he actually quotes another Supreme

866
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Speaker 1: Court justice in this New York Times op ed uh

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Speaker 1: saying that then are as current interpretation of the Second

868
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Speaker 1: Amendment is uh, one of the greatest frauds and then says,

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Speaker 1: I repeat frauds that has been you know, carried out

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Speaker 1: against the American people. And you know, so it's not

871
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Speaker 1: just this guy went crazy in his old age. It's

872
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, to Supreme Court justice luminaries. And actually, I

873
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Speaker 1: was reading this article recently about um corporate personhood, and

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Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a tangent on this,

875
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Speaker 1: but it's aligning with the idea of fraud being a

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00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: part of of the way that our our government works.

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Speaker 1: Corporate personhood was passed by the Supreme Court based on

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Speaker 1: the fact that the lawyer who was representing the side

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00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: of the corporations in that time said that when he

880
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: was working with the people who crafted the Fourteenth Amendment,

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00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: which was about due process and equal protection and all

882
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: of that, that the framers of that constitutional amendment had

883
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: wanted it to include corporation corporations And it was a

884
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: straight up lie. He literally perjured himself in front of

885
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court on behalf of corporations. And um, now

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00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: we have this idea that corporations deserve all of the

887
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: protections that no, no, no, this is like Roscoe conkling.

888
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: This goes way back to like, uh, the four Citizens United,

889
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: way way way back. Corporate personhood is the idea that

890
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: like all corporations deserved. And I only bring it up

891
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: because it's just like, so much of what rules are

892
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: lies right now is based on lies and fraud. Yeah, because, yeah,

893
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: that allows special interest groups to inform our policy. They

894
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: get free speech, corporations get free speech based on the

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00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: fact that a lawyer lied to the Supreme Court about

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00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: what the original framers of equal protection meant. Right, Alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's get into our Netflix review of the week. Pivot

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Speaker 1: Sick Pivot Miles. Last week you told us about Go

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Speaker 1: Back to Where You came from? WHOA, what was that

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Speaker 1: you from? Ohio, South Ohio? Yeah, yeah, you can get

901
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: cakes open. Now the the Australian reality show you told

902
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: us about last week, I go back to where he

903
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: came from. Now we have a new sort of documentary

904
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: series and it's the one that Casey was talking about earlier,

905
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: Wild Wild Country. This man fucking documentary is crazy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's like executive produced by the Deplas brothers, but that's

907
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: not really important. The story is really good. It's about

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Speaker 1: Bugwan Rajni Shri a k a oh show um and

909
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: sort of Yeah, this group that he had uh and

910
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: their efforts to create this community uh in a town

911
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: called Antelope Organ uh. And it's like it was like

912
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: a sleepy retirement community and all of a sudden, these crazy,

913
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Speaker 1: free loving people showed up and yeah, they were like,

914
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Speaker 1: it's a sex gold here. Um and it's just wild.

915
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Speaker 1: I don't want to even tell too much because when

916
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: you watch this documentary, it unfolds like a full on

917
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: action spy thriller drama. It's got everything. It's got people

918
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: that are so down to not snitch Scott people who

919
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: were down to do crazy fucking crimes. Uh, and the

920
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: women powerful women, you know, and like, you know, it's

921
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: one of those things Like I was watching the whole time.

922
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well, when's other shoe going to

923
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: drop about this? Anyway? And again, I don't want to

924
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: reveal anything because I think the most enjoyable version of

925
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: you guys watching this is just to watch Wild Wild

926
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: Country and watch this whole story unfold, because by the

927
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: end of the first episode you're gonna be like, what

928
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: what what? Where am I? Where's this going? Yeah? I

929
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: loved it so much. Yeah it's crazy. Um. And you

930
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: guys might see this mentioned on the front page or

931
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: Drudge Report because apparently people are speculating that Ariana Huffington

932
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: was actually a member believe it. Yeah, they said she

933
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: was a member of the sex cult. And that's even

934
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: to call it a sex cal It's not sex. It

935
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: was a religion that wanted to change the world for

936
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Speaker 1: the better and sure that they had like orgiastic experiences

937
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: all night long, which is how one of the like

938
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: the townspeoples, like you can hear them having orgiastic experiences

939
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: all night and I was like, sounds pretty cool that, Like, um,

940
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: because in the late seventies and eighties, Hollywood just wanted

941
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: to transcend, baby, you know, and these people. I just

942
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: can't believe we didn't. I didn't know about this, Like

943
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: it seems like it like was a huge part of

944
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: America for a moment, right, And because like sixty Minutes

945
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: was like they have all these interviews from sixty Minutes

946
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: and all these things, and and I had no idea

947
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: that this was a thing. Yeah, I mean I've I've

948
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: heard of like, oh show like as like the spiritual

949
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: practice or the philosophy, But yeah, I didn't know. Again,

950
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that it took on this whole

951
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: being from Oregon? Did that? Did it? I was born

952
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: there and moved when I was like two years old,

953
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: but by that time they were in Oregon. I think, yeah,

954
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: no it was. But again, yeah, it wasn't like it

955
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 1: like the early eighties. Right. Who's to say that your

956
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: parents and you weren't that might be where I came from.

957
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: A uh, well, Casey, it's been a pleasure, head. I

958
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: love you guys. Daily podcast. Where can people find you?

959
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: Follow you? Follow me on Twitter at Casey w l

960
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Speaker 1: e y Lie. Uh so, I hate having to do that,

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Speaker 1: but Casey w l e Y on Twitter, Casey l

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Speaker 1: e y Lie on Instagram, and then, um, I love

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Speaker 1: my podcast. It's called The Gay Power at half Hour.

964
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Speaker 1: You can find that all over the internet, iTunes, SoundCloud.

965
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Remember where you get this podcast. You can probably find

966
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Speaker 1: it too with my co host Tony Soto and I

967
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: do uh gay weekly updates on the world that we

968
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: cared up. But it's very accessible for straight people too,

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Speaker 1: so please turn in Gay Power. Check out out miles

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Great. You can find me at

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at

973
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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, where at the Daily Zeist on Instagram.

974
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily

975
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: like guys dot com, where we post are soodes and

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Speaker 1: their foot No but no, we link off to the

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Speaker 1: articles that we used as sources of information for what

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Speaker 1: we talked about today. That is going to do it

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Speaker 1: for today my own Do you have a song to

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00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: write us out on? Yeah? I was just listening to this,

981
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: like this thing just popped up on my Spotify called

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00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: the Hypnotic Brass Ensemble. Uh and it was just kind

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: of a weird I a full disclosure. I grew up

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00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: play trumpet because my name is Miles, so so fulfilling

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Speaker 1: prophecy uh and I just like grass bands and this

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Speaker 1: was kind of like a funky brass band thing. It's

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00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: from album called Hypnotic Joints and it's called one Honey.

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00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: Uh so you know, making grass accessible. So yeah, peep

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: this little track from Hypnotic Grass Ensemble. All right, and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for today. We will be back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, talk to you

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