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Speaker 1: H Hello, level you. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice

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Speaker 1: I'm your host from Shooter and it's Thursday, my favorite

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Speaker 1: day of the week. Loopy, Loopy lou Are you.

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Speaker 2: There, Loopy Louise? Here?

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Speaker 1: Hi ro Hey, coming to us from our Florida bureau,

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Speaker 1: which is your mom and dad's magnificent new house. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at you on the skype now when we normally

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Speaker 1: do this. You have a lovely apartment Mark, You've got

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Speaker 1: great taste, and the view from your living room window

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Speaker 1: is spectacular. However, I think I like this even better.

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Speaker 2: I think I do too. It's it's quite nice here,

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Speaker 2: and it's also warm.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so cold in Hey. Happy birthday to your mommy.

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Speaker 1: You're down there for for your mom's birthday. Happy birthday, Doris,

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Speaker 1: and also your dad, who we never talk about. It's

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Speaker 1: like Doris as a single person. The way we talk

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Speaker 1: about your dad is retiring too, so happy retirement. A

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Speaker 1: little shout out there on the Naughty but Nice Show.

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Speaker 1: Did they ever think that would happen? When she met

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Speaker 1: me ten years ago at Del Fresco was in Rockefeller

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Speaker 2: I love how this gift is the gift that keeps

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, Happy, happy birthday, Happy retirement. Let's jump into

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Speaker 1: the show. What time is it? My friends? It is

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Speaker 1: tea time. A big story at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: Mark Meghan Markel's new podcast has hit even more delays.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. So Meghan signed a new deal with

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Speaker 1: a different company after her Spotyfy podcast fell apart. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, she got about twenty million to do podcasts

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Speaker 1: with Spotify. They're great. They're not iHeartRadio, Hello Hello, but

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Speaker 1: Remember we listened to some of them, Mark Archie types

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Speaker 1: remembers that is that what we're called very strange interviewing celebrities,

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Speaker 1: famous people. But the problem was is that the stereotype

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Speaker 1: with Paris Hilton and Andy Cohen. Not bad, I'm not

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Speaker 1: putting them down, but they're not quite what they had

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Speaker 1: Meghan went to a different company gave her We don't

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Speaker 1: know how much she got paid, but she signed a

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Speaker 1: deal in February mark twenty twenty four. Well, it's almost

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Speaker 1: February twenty twenty five. It took a year. Now. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: if you're working on a massive production, mark you've been

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Speaker 1: you to do a podcast. We don't know what it's about.

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Speaker 1: And now we're finding out it's been delayed. Agay, in

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Speaker 1: what is going on. This is not a good sign.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good sign. And I I will say

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk that Megan and Harry

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Speaker 2: They show up, they want these grand projects, they really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have the ideas. We've been in so

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Speaker 1: So when we started this show, Mark, I sat with

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Speaker 1: you with all your TV experience, and we mapped this

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Speaker 1: have sections, it's the same section every day. They're naughties

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Speaker 1: And it's really worked out well for us. The show's

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Speaker 1: doing very well. Thank you, thank you, thank you. However, Mark,

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Speaker 1: And I wish that somebody could say that to Harry

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Speaker 2: to listen to the people that are being called scam wortis.

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Speaker 1: And I think you've gone on that journey to Mark.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm obsessed with this story. Blake Lively

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Speaker 2: and Justin Baldoni's flirty texts have been leaked amid their war. Okay, so,

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Speaker 2: The text paint a picture of two co stars who

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Speaker 2: and to do it together Lively, text of Baldoni. According

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Speaker 2: the flirty undertones didn't stop there. Valdoni added, I also

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Speaker 1: This is going to be trouble, Mark, because they really

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Speaker 1: did have a flirty, nice relationship, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: you're talking about suppositories, it's a different relationship. Then I'll

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Speaker 1: meet you at Bottinos at seven point thirty tonight, Mark.

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Speaker 1: It's very difficult me and you know each other very well.

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Speaker 1: We've never said that to one another. You could read

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Speaker 1: with Rob and Mark Lupo show Hi Dari's Happy Birthday?

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Speaker 1: You or John? Of course, you're such a bray that

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