1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Yea, we are back on normally normal things for when 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: the news it's weird. I am Mary Catholic and I'm 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: You know I'm noticing. I'm like in a heavy hoodie 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: and you are in a tank top and you live 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: in Virginia and I live in Florida. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: You know what, It is very cold right now. But 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: perhaps I have just become like more northern, I guess 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: since I've been here. No, it's it's warm in my 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: room so here, I am. Yeah, I think that's what 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: it is. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: We end up like either heating or cooling our houses 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: to the temperature that we like them. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: And yeah, so this is because Barack Obama is not 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: president to tell me not to, but we want Al Gore. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Although al Gore, of course famously his house had like 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: the largest carbon footprint of any house in the area 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: because he did whatever he wanted while telling us not to. 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: It's for all of you to fix the problem, not him. Right, 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: He's just going to speak and get a million dollars 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: about the problem. All right, let's get into it. 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: It is Martin Luther King day, our kids are home 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: from school. We're just going to have to roll with this. 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Indeed, we'll see who sneaks in. Oh yeah, all right. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: So there was a protest over the weekend at a 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: church in Saint Paul, and it is one of the 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: most vile things I have seen in some time. A 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: group of protesters, anti ICE protesters invaded a church in 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: Saint Paul. They yelled at the congregants, They shamed the 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: pastor for not standing with them and not letting them 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: just run rampant in his church. And Don Lemon was 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: there for all of it because he is part of 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: their group. When he got to the protest, he kisses 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: the main protester, lady Hello, and proceeds to interview her 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: about her amazing work of going to various police officers' 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: houses and harassing them there. And he's just interviewing her 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: and nodding along. 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: With all of it. 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: It was I truly, I can't imagine that most Americans 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: watching this aren't going to be as disgusted as I am. 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: And I hope that there are arrests. I'm very much not. 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: You know, I at no point was I a lock 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: her up chander in twenty sixteen or any of it 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: in general. Don't think that arresting your political opponents. Is 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: a great idea, but this is not acceptable. And this 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: is so across the line that liberals need to understand. 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: That, well, yeah, it is against the law right and 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: against the law correct. 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: What they believe is that they are operating under the 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: First Amendment. In fact, they are not. They are violating 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: the First Amendment rights of the people in the congregation 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: to gather peaceably in worship. Now, the ostensible reason for 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: this is that the pastor is in some way is 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: named in some lawsuit about ice peak because he's like 55 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: a director of a field office or something. Yeah, doesn't matter, 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: doesn't at all, It doesn't matter. 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: What's funny about this. Sorry, I was going to say 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: just for the arrest part. If they do get arrested, 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: it's likely going to be under the FACE Act, which 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: is the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, a US federal law making it illegal 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: to use force, threats, or physical obstruction to prevent people 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: from obtaining or providing reproductive health services or exercising religious 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: freedom at places of worship. It's going to be some 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: level of irony that the same law that doesn't allow 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: protesters to invade say, a planned parenthood location is going 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: to be the law that gets the people that protested 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: inside this church. 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, Carol, is that you're right. People 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: who see this will be appalled. People will not see 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,559 Speaker 1: it largely, people who are not deeply engaged in politics 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: will not see it. The press is not going to 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: cover this. In fact, I think the only way the 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: press will cover it, which could come back to bite them, 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: is if they cover that people are being rightly arrested 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: or prosecuted or fine or something for this behavior. Because 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: you are not allowed to roll up in a church 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: take it over, and it's doin their service. These poor 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: worshipers are just walking out the door like I guess 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: we're done now. And then women actually interviewed We're going 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: to play a clip of him, but he interviewed another 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: guy who was just wouldn't have the gaslighting and was like, 83 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: what good have you done here? What good have you 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: done here? None? And that's this is just so characteristic 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: of the left is that they will in this case, 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: as they do in many they will push the boundaries, 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: push the boundaries, push the boundaries, do things that are 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: flatly illegal. And then when someone says you could be 89 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: in trouble for this. We're gonna get you in trouble 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: for this. They go, oh, oh, rightly violated. Yeah, yeah, 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: the norms aren't being violated. You violated the norms, you did, 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: and then you paid the price for doing so. And 93 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: this is the theme of our discussions of all these 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Minneapolis protests is yeah, once you have pushed the boundary, 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: pushed the boundary, pushed the boundary, every interaction with law 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: enforcement becomes exactly more pitched, becomes there's a greater chance 97 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: of someone making a mistake or having to defend themselves 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: against real threats. So this all just sort of gets 99 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: really pitched, and you can't pretend as if you have 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: done nothing to create the environment in which you're operating, 101 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: which is obviously what happened here. 102 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: That's right. So what's interesting about Don Lemon, and we'll 103 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: get to that clip in a second, is that he's 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: going to say I'm a journalist and I am just 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: covering this as a journalist. That didn't work for people 106 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: who said they were journalists on January sixth, and I 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: don't think it's going to work here because when you 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: break the law as a journalist, when you invade a 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: church during their service, stop them from praying, you should 110 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 2: be held accountable. And I think Don Lemon absolutely should 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: be here with all the protesters that were there that day. 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: What a career arc this guy is on my God, 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Like he had a primetime show. I guess it was 114 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: late night, but primetime is show at CNN, and then 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: he which was famously off the rails, and then they 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: give him a mourning show, which Don Lemon is not 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: a morning It's not Mark at all. 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: Ye. 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: He's abusive and hateful and he has the Morning for 120 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: Sunny Mornings. 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like nasty and bullying and at 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: times misogynist to his two female co hosts, Poppy Harley 123 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: and Caitlyn Collins. And then he almost started a show 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: on X with some sweetheart deal with all Elon, but 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: because he was unwilling to even like sit for one interview, 126 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: that didn't work out. And here we are live streaming 127 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: invasions of churches in Minneapolis. 128 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: Don Lemon, what you could have been? 129 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he was always irresponsible and errand this 130 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: is just another latest example of it. Yeah. I do 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: think this is the kind of situation where look, the 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: Renee good shooting incident. A lot of people saw video 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: of that, and a lot of people differ from us 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: and came to the conclusion that this is this is 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: just horrible. I'm not giving benefit of the doubt to 136 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: the officer feeling concerned for his life. Yeah, I think 137 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: once a vehicle is coming at you, you can make 138 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: that decision. Agree completely, and you shouldn't be coming out 139 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: an officer, whether you intend to hit him or not. Right, 140 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: But people saw that and made a different conclusion. I 141 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: think reasonable people can disagree about that. No one's going 142 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: to see this video of the left basically taking what 143 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: could be a political win because the numbers on immigration 144 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: enforcement and Trump have changed. This constitutes the best way 145 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: they know how to screw that up as a political 146 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: advantage because this kind of thing people do not take 147 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: kindly to. There's also a video of them, uh ironically 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: pulling over citizens and asking them who they are because 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: they think their vehicles sort of look like Ice. You 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: don't have the right to do that. Unlike Ice, you 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: have no right to do that. And then there's one 152 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: of a couple tech bros inside a cafe getting accosted 153 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: by people because they just looked like, I guess non 154 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: being cried dude. 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought racial profiling was wrong, man, Catherine, 156 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: was I mistaken about that? 157 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: Apparently it's okay. But if those if those kind of 158 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: videos do break through and you have a Minneapolis twenty 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: twenty feeling or a DC your outdoors dining and you 160 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: have to raise your fist feeling going back to brunch 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: gets to normies by the way, it was brunch before 162 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: they've escalated to church. You can't even have church anymore, 163 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: no going back to church. That this could turn what 164 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: would otherwise be a political turn in their favor against them. 165 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: If it gets some sort. 166 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: Of play, let's roll that Don Lemon clip. 167 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: Let's see what this man has to say. I mean, 168 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: this is unacceptable, it's shameful. 169 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 5: It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 170 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: But there are folks I have to take care of 171 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: my flock. Listen, we live in there's a constitution in 172 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the First Amendment to freedom of speech and the freedom 173 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: to assemble and protest. 174 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope of 176 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: the world is Jesus Christ. 177 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: He's very respectful, but please don't push me. 178 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 5: Then we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's why 179 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: we're here. Okay, that's why we're here. That's what we're about. 180 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 5: Who do you think Jesus would be understanding we're about. 181 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: We're about straying to love that Jesus did try to 182 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 5: talk to them. 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Ayone is willing to talk. Okay, Sickening truly handles that. 184 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: He handles that very well, by the way. 185 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: And the past you're talking from the church, Yeah. 186 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: That's the pastor. And another part of that that is 187 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: emblematic of this move is Don Lemon has entered the church. 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: They have forcibly disrupted this event, and he's like, talk 189 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to them. They are yelling. Not just that they are yelling. 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: They have been the aggressors at every step of this process. 191 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: And that pastor puts an arm undn Lemon and he's like, 192 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: don't push me, don't push me. Right, the flopping is 193 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: out of control. Yeah, the flopping is out of control. 194 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: Italian soccer stars would be impressed. 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just amazing stuff. But you know, I kind 196 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: of hope that Minneapolis stays cold enough that we do 197 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: not get a full scale burning, Yeah, as we did 198 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. That's the thing you and I are 199 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: hoping for. 200 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 6: That. 201 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: What are these protesters hoping for? They're hoping for that 202 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: full scale burning and timblewalls. Who will get two more. 203 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: In the next segment, he wants that he is not 204 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: bringing down the temperature at all. 205 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: He keeps ratcheting it up. It's out of. 206 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Control that they're willing to burn their own city down, 207 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: and you and I are sitting here in not Minneapolis, 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: saying please don't, please don't. 209 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: By the way, there's a fantastic clip of Jacob Fried 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: talking about and I'll just act it out and describe it. 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Talking about and he puts the words in other protesters' mouths, 212 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: but he says, we have citizens here, activists who want 213 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: our local police to fight ICE agents in the streets. 214 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: The chief of police is standing over his shoulder and 215 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: you should see his eyebrows. A seat to the moon. 216 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: He is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: will not be doing that, and you will not be 218 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: sending that message from an official podium. But that is 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: what he's doing. And I just think that is you 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: can look at the totality of the situation and you 221 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: can ask for ICE reforms, and you can say that 222 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: these things need to be trained better. And also no 223 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: to that, Yeah, no to that. 224 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: I mean you think the mayor of the city would 225 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: not want that. But here we are again saying why 226 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: do you want that? Why do you want violence. 227 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: In your streets? 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: What do you think you win? You think you're going 229 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: to win the midterms on this? And speaking of the 230 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: MIDI I absolutely think Republicans have to be showing this 231 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: church riot in ads. It's important that Americans see it. 232 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: Like you said, I don't think the media is going 233 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: to cover it. I don't think most Americans are going 234 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: to see it until it becomes front and center. And 235 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: if a rest's happen, I think those should be in 236 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: the ads too. 237 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: I do also think that talking about the actual people 238 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: who are being arrested in these operations is important, and 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I wish that the administration was clearer about that on 240 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: a regular basis. There's another viral clip of a man 241 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: who is an ICE agent telling activist we are arresting 242 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: a man who is a child sex offender right now, 243 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: and you are whistling to warn him that's who you're protecting, 244 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: and then he just calls it insanity and drives away. 245 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: A lot of normal people would feel that way if 246 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: it were framed that way. It's not often framed that way, 247 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: and it's the administration's job to do a better job 248 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: of that and to make sure that people think it's 249 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: being done competently, because federal law should be enforced. As 250 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: you saw in my locality, like just a couple of 251 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: weeks ago, they released a guy didn't honor an ice 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: detainer and he murdered someone allegedly because he murdered someone 253 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: the next day. The next day, so there is a 254 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: human cost on that front too. Speaking of Virginia, we 255 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: have a new governor. 256 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Yes, you do have a new governor. How is that 257 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: going for you? 258 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh? Not great, Carol. Abigail Spamberger was sworn in in Virginia. 259 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Democrats have full control in the state of Virginia of 260 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: the Senate and the House. And I don't say this lightly. 261 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: The Senate Democrat leadership in Virginia is out of their minds. 262 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Louise Lucas you can look her up on X is 263 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: one of the members of leadership in that August body, 264 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: and she is the only Democrat I have seen come 265 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: close to touching Trump level trolling. And it's not that 266 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I like it, but there's a part of me that's like, 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: she's she's given it college try here. Nonetheless, despite the craziness, 268 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: the Virginia voters wanted this. This is what they asked 269 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: for and this is what they want to get. Yeah, 270 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: let me tell you a couple of things that they 271 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: are working on and proposing right now. Taxpayer funded suggestions 272 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: for taxpayer funded housing assistance for local government employees only, 273 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: free education for illegal residents, expanding sales and retail taxes. 274 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: They are proposing taxes on investment funds. Of course that 275 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: sound you here as investments leaving Virginia. Can't we talking 276 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: about this is the last episode? 277 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Like billionaires are the most mobile, but people who have 278 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: investments also mobile. 279 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Well, and they also think these things through. And when 280 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: they hear this, they go, what should we do with 281 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: this money? Should we lay it right here so that 282 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Democrats and Vertidy take it, or should we move it? 283 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Another fun one is moving to ban gas power leaf blowers, 284 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: and then they're also going to tax anything you have 285 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that's an electric leaf flower it's good. You can't can't 286 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: can't leaf flow. No more leaf flowing in Virginia is 287 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Oh. Also, immediately, the first thing Spamberger did 288 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: was eliminate the youngkin Era Agreement or requirement that localities 289 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: cooperate with ICE. 290 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: So yes, obviously that's the most important thing on the agenda, 291 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: number one, number one. 292 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, the onslaught is going to be pretty serious. 293 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: And you know, elections have consequences. They do, they do. 294 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: You know what I'll say, I'll say that Florida is 295 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: waiting for you. My locality just reduced our sales tax. 296 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: I've never had that happen before my life. In my life, 297 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: I've never had the county say hey, we're going to 298 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: reduce their sales tax. It's only by a penny or two, 299 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: but like, come on, that has never happened to me. 300 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know what I was, like, what is this? 301 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: They're making it lower? Meanwhile, meanwhile, my area in. 302 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: A purple county, so you know, Meanwhile, our area just 303 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: raised takeout taxes and they're also going to on the 304 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: state level, they're attempting to impose taxes on all online retailing. 305 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Man affordability Carol, it feels great. 306 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: I feel like you could get used to the heat. 307 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Come on now, man, I mean that part's not an 308 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: issue for me. 309 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: All Right, We're going to take a short break and 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: come back with a little in case you missed it 311 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris, be right back. We are back on normally, 312 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: and Kamala Harris, she is just. 313 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Still frequently in the news. 314 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: I saw a clip of Kris Wisher telling a story 315 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: about Kamala maybe a week ago, and I was like, Oh, 316 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: if something else happens with Kamala, will save this. 317 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Clip for that. 318 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: But and here we are, because we're going to get 319 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: into what Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania, says he was 320 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: asked during his VP vetting process. And it's a good one. 321 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: But let's start with this Kara Swisher clip about Kamala. 322 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 6: I just had an experience with Kamala Harris where we 323 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 6: were joking about something backstage about Robert Kennedy Junior. It 324 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: was specifically around circumcision and autism, the link he was 325 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 6: making a link which is not there. And then when 326 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: I got on stage and mentioned it, she looked at 327 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 6: me dead and said. 328 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: People will die because of what they're doing. I can't 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: laugh about that. 330 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, And she had just laughed about it, and 331 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 6: then she went into this sort of high handed kind 332 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 6: of thing where she was like yelling at me. 333 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: Kara, it's personal for me. 334 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm going to kill you. 335 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: I literally can't believe you just did that. I sometimes 336 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: get the sense that she doesn't realize her political career 337 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: is over. I was like, where's the person backstage? You 338 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: just had a very insightful comment about this. What a faker, 339 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: what a fraud. And we knew this. 340 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: We knew this about Kamala Harris, and the Kara Swishers 341 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: of the world assured us that wasn't so. And the 342 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: fact that she's telling the story now and not during 343 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: the campaign is very very telling. But this is who 344 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris was. She was one person behind the scenes 345 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: and another person in front of an audience. And it 346 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: was obvious. It was obvious it. 347 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Never worked, dude. Yeah, No, that's the thing. What Kara 348 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: felt in that switch is what everyone felt watching all 349 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: the time. They knew that whatever they were getting was 350 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: some weird like attempt at being a human that was 351 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: not real. And for all as we've said many times 352 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: for all of Donald Trump's weirdness, and there's a lot. 353 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: He is Donald Trump, right, Yeah, Kamala not the same deal. 354 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: And this reminds me. Also, do you remember when Eugene Daniels, 355 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: who's the head of the White House Correspondence Association, interviewed 356 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: her in one forum and it was like a very 357 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: friendly forums black journalists and she was being interviewed by YAE. 358 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: He was among them. And if you watch the live 359 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: stream when it ends, the look that Eugene Daniels gives 360 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: to his fellow panel list is like, oh my gosh, 361 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: I can't believe this person is the nominee. Yeah, y'all 362 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: all knew it. Y'all all knew. Everyone knew. Everyone knew. 363 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: They kept it a secret talk about something else everyone knew. 364 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: It turns out that Josh. 365 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: Shapiro was too Jewish to be the vice presidential nominee 366 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: for Kamala Harris. We kind of knew that, and we'll 367 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: get a little bit more into that. But also they 368 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: openly told him that he's too poor, Like yes, it's like, wow, 369 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, though you know, normally it's like 370 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: Jewish and too rich. That goes in in. You know, 371 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: this is very interesting. I'll read you a little clip 372 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: from the New York Times. Shapiro eventually returned to Pennsylvania 373 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: with his mind made up, though not before we misspoke 374 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: with him again, he writes, and suggested that the role 375 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: of vice president might be a financial burden for him 376 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: and his wife. Shapiro's financial vetting showed that he didn't 377 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: have much money, and the vice presidency would require Lori 378 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: to buy a new wardrobe and pay the costs for 379 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: second lady level hair and makeup, even as the couple 380 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 2: would be required to pay for food and entertainment at 381 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: the vice president's residence. Shapiro said he was taken aback. 382 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: Are you trying to convince me not to do this here? 383 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: Paul's asking remisresponded that she just wanted him to be 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: sure this was something he wanted. In the end, Shapiro wrote, 385 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: he realized that it was not. 386 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: So. This is what we said about Shapiro at the time, 387 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: is that it read like he didn't want to be 388 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: part of this. He did not want to hitch himself 389 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: to this that star. Yeah, and he was right, but 390 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: they also didn't want him. And here's why Kamala Harris 391 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: would have made an absolutely awful president. The reason they're 392 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: telling him he's too poor or too Jewish is because 393 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: they want him to remove himself from the process because 394 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: they are too cowardly to do it themselves exactly. 395 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: But it's funny because there's something gratifying about the fact 396 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: that she rejected Josh Shapiro and then picked Tim. I'm 397 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: a man I swear walls. It's like this, you got 398 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: what you deserved. 399 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: You got that guy. Tim Moles doesn't have any money, 400 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: so it gives the lot. But he was just poor, 401 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: not poor and Jewish. Oh, yes, that's true. That's true. 402 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: By the way, this all comes from uh Or. This 403 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: new news cycle comes from Shapiro's new book, which is 404 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: called I Believe, Where We Keep the Light. I love 405 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: political memoirs. They just like sort of switch around light 406 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: and hope and make up new Like there's at somewhere 407 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: that's full of different memoir names. George W. Bush was 408 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: a charge to keep. Yes, that's a pretty good one, 409 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: is it. I do think, I do think against my 410 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: own interests. Audacity of hope was kind of a catchy 411 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: phrase that doesn't make sense though. Audacity of hope. That's 412 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: why it's that's why it's perfect for black Obama actually 413 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. But no, this is true. In the book, 414 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: the Governor is measured in describing his interactions with Miss 415 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: Harris herself. The New York Times says, but mister Shapiro, 416 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: who is Jewish, details a contentious vetting process in which 417 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Miss harris Is team focused intensely on his views on Israel, 418 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: so much so that at one point, he wrote, he 419 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: was asked if he had ever been an agent of 420 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: the Israeli government. 421 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: It's so good and that he goes on, had I 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: been a double agent for Israel? Wrote mister Shapiro, describing 423 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: his incredulous response to a last minute question from the 424 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: vetting team. He responded that the question was offensive, he wrote, 425 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: and was told, well, we have to ask have you 426 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: ever communicated with an undercover agent of Israel? The questioner, 427 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: Dana Remis, a former White House Council continued, according to 428 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: mister Shapiro, who recounted, if they were undercover, I responded, 429 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: how the hell would I know? 430 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: It's so good, that's fantastic. Are you aware of the 431 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: definition of undercover? Yeah? 432 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: If I knew, then they wouldn't be undercover. I you know, 433 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: Shapiro goes on to campaign for Kamala Harris. And that's 434 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: the thing about Democrats is that they will take this 435 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: and still go in campaign. I shouldn't say just Democrats, 436 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Republicans do it too. There's so many lines where I'm like, 437 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm in ninety five percent agreement 438 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: with this person, I'm not supporting them if they ask 439 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: me if I'm an agent for Israel. And again, Republicans 440 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: absolutely do it too. I can think of some examples 441 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump making comments to people who ended up campaigning, 442 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: and I personally couldn't do it, couldn't do it. I 443 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: would just be like, all right, I'm out of political 444 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: life for everyone. 445 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't care. 446 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm out. 447 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: That's why we don't run for office exactly. 448 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: I will go be a greeter at my local target 449 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: before I do this shit. 450 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Understood. Same here, We're going. 451 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: To take a short break and come back with a 452 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: feel good story because there's been you know, a lot 453 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: of negativity here, so we'll be right back. We are 454 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: back with a story of a YouTuber who has decided 455 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 2: to take a break from the youtubing to better himself 456 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: and really improve his knowledge. His name is Kai seen It. 457 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: I think I'm saying that correctly, and he has gone 458 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: viral for sharing videos of himself reading a book I 459 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: believe the book is Atomic Habits, and then looking up 460 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: words that he doesn't know. Let's roll that clip. 461 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 7: Spontaneous, spontaneit, spontaneity. 462 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: How do I pronounce that? 463 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 7: Spawn spontaneity, spawn spawn two. 464 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: Oftentimes when I don't know what a word is pronounced, 465 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: I want to I get to look at how it's pronounced, it, 466 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: what it even means. Spontaneity, spontaneity, the condition of being spontaneous, spontaneity, spontaneity, spontaneity, spontaneity, 467 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: and spontaneity, spontaneity of life. Hardly such questions set up 468 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 4: a false what does that mean? 469 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 7: Uh? 470 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Dichotomy? Dichotomy a false dicomedy? 471 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: What does that mean? A dicomedy a division or contrast 472 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 4: between two things that are or represented as being opposed 473 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: or entirely different. Hmm, repeated branching into two egs, dicomedy. 474 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: It's wonderful. 475 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: I love seeing that you are, Especially if you learn 476 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: words while you're reading them, you may mispronounce them. And 477 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: I've always seen that as a sign of intelligence and 478 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 2: not stupidity like it's considered in I feel like our culture, 479 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: we'll just see we see it as somebody dumb when 480 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: they mispronounce a word, but that they likely learn that 481 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: word by reading. 482 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: It's a good thing. 483 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: I showed that clip to my kids. I was like, 484 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: I love this. I love that this guy is bettering 485 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: himself reading a book, challenging himself, looking up wards. He 486 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: doesn't know. 487 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Love all of that. 488 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: Please do it, you know, I told my kids, as 489 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: you get older, I want you to read challenging books 490 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: that you don't know all the words, and then yeah, 491 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: go look them up, go find out how they're pronounced. 492 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: Do it well. It's funny. I was writing a piece 493 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: for National Reviews two fifty issue about literacy, and I 494 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: was talking about how there is this trend now where 495 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: there are a few influencers whose thing is that they 496 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: read or they are learning to read. There's one guy 497 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: named Oliver James who was thirty two when the pandemic 498 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: began and realized, like, I can't even read a restaurant menu. 499 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I was left behind in school. I fell through the 500 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: cracks and so he started to read on TikTok and 501 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: taught himself to read, moving up amazing from picture books 502 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: to Charlotte's Webb. He's now reading C. S. Lewis. I mean, 503 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: it's amazing. There's another guy called Chris Kinda Reads, who 504 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: is a young man who was a reader but had 505 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: never read classics. So he starts reading classics. Penguin Classics 506 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: sends him an entire library. He love it. He's like, 507 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: East of Eden is great, guys, you gotta get into it. 508 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: So I love the idea of things that are not 509 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: part of the dopamine hit attention economy, the old good 510 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: things becoming a trend. That is what we want as 511 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: a culture is people like this leading millions of young 512 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: people to say, perhaps I should read a book. 513 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Yep. And anybody mocking these people is no friend of mine. 514 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I just anybody mocking somebody trying to better themselves at 515 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: whatever age. If you realize at thirty that you're not 516 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: a great reader, and you set out to become a 517 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: better reader, good for you. Good for you. 518 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: It's like people who make fun of people who go 519 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: to the gym for the first time, right, they're new 520 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, they are learning. Yeah, I hate this 521 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: is what we should celebrate and I love to see it. 522 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: There is nothing like so close to magic as when 523 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I saw my kids click and learn to read. I mean, 524 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: it is an amazing thing to see it get so 525 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: much joy out of it while they're doing it that 526 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: you can see it's really cool. 527 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: I love it. 528 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Let's have more of that please. 529 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, 530 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get 531 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. 532 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, act normally