1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tirec 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: dot Com studios tyrec dot com. We'll help you get 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: and over ten thousand recommended installers. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Tirec dot com. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be aeron tours in our 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tire Rack, Los Angeles Studios. Jmart down 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: in Nashville, Jamart, what's going on, man, how's your Saturday going? 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 4: Not too bad? Not too bad watching. I don't know 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: that we're getting gonna get any fireworks or anything over 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: the rest of the evening, but there's still some opportunity 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: for some crazy things to happen in college football, even 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: though we've kind of seen escapes and some things that 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: we were expecting all day so far. 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, a couple things worth noting. One BYU 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: which is leading the Big Twelve. They are playing right now. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: They trail seven nothing into the first quarter at home 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: against Kansas. Kansas coming off of a win against Iowa 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: State last week, which was the top twenty five wins 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: so they're playing pretty good. 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: Football, so we'll keep an eye on that one. 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: That would obviously, in theory, I would it won't necessarily 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: shake up the Big Twelve title race because BYU is 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: alone atop the Big Twelve standings at six to zero 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: league play, but it would still. 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: You know, it wouldn't be nothing. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: Also worth noting, Georgia is up twenty four to seventeen 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: a little over two minutes left Georgia in the red zone, 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: so a field goal would essentially seal the victory. There. 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: Jmart I think there might be an interesting conversation about 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: the SEC if Georgia does hold on, because Texas and 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Texas A and M would be tied at five and 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: one atop the league standings. Then you have this jumbled, 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: chaotic mess of Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama Tennessee Georgia, Alabama 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: and miss all with two losses. That's again, assuming that 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Georgia holds on. They're up twenty four to seventeen here 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: at about the two minute mark in this game. Really quickly, 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: let's go ahead, just very quickly, because this score is 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: kind of fresh and you know, just in the moment. 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: But as we keep updated on Georgia Tennessee number one 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: team in the country. Oregon does survive at Wisconsin. Final 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: score sixteen thirteen. In this game, Oregon actually trailed thirteen 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: to six going into the fourth quarter. Really quickly, I'll 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: just say this, you know, we really haven't spent a 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: ton of time talking about Oregon. They are the deserving 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: number one team in the college football playoff poll. I'll 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: just take half a second to say I don't think 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: there's an incredible takeaway in this game. As Oregon approves 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: to eleven to zero. What stands out to me j 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: mart is this is a year where everybody has two buys, 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: just the way the schedule worked, the way the schedule broke. 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: Oregon has not had a buye since midsipteen. This is 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: their eighth straight game, so to me, I'm not totally 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: surprised that they struggled, and I just I think it's 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: a nice win. Wisconsin isn't playing very well right now. 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: They're five and five on the season, but this is 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Oregon's third trip to the East Coast or the Midwest 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: in the last six weeks, and I think they deserve 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of credit for surviving. And now I 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: think they basically sounds weird to say, but I think 63 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: they've essentially sealed a college football playoff berth. They're eleven 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: to zero. Even if they were to lose the finale, 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: it would be hard for me to imagine that. If 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: they make the Big Ten championship game, I think they're 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: basically in. I don't know that that's the big story, 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: but Oregon did survive that game just went final seconds ago, 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: so figure we at least talk about it for half 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: a second. 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, most most teams that end up winning a championship 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: or in position to do so, they have to get 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: lucky or they have to find a way to escape 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: or get through when they don't have their best And 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: this was not their best performance, no question about that. 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: Campra know it can be a tough place to play, 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: even when Wisconsin is average. That's a I mean, that's 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: a big time atmosphere, and they played a little above 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: their skis and Oregon was a little bit off and 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: it was just enough to make that sort of a 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: doubtful performance. But you still end up winning the game, 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: you stay undefeated. It's a road win in conference in 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: a tough building. Not the best year for Wisconsin losing 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: their quarterback early in the year and just kind of 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: just you can just tell it wasn't wasn't gonna be 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: in the cards for them this year. But that's a 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: game a lot of teams with the because the pressure 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: is not on Wisconsin trailing or even when it's tied, 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: all the pressure's on Oregon because they're the ones with 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: something to play for at that point in time. A 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: lot of teams fold and they just maybe they don't 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: have it that night, and somehow Wisconsin's able to pull 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: that out. Oregon pulling it out is relatively impressive because 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: nothing really felt particularly stand out special anything like that 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: from them, and they did just enough. They even got 96 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: past a questionable decision late in the game from their 97 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: head coach and still found a way to win the game. 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: And sometimes that's what you have to do. You just 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: have to find a way to get a w. And 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: that's what they did. And you're right, I mean, I 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: don't see any universe where they're not in the College 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: Football Playoff as of right now and with on basically, 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: whatever happens after this is not going to change that. 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oregon is eleven and zero. They have a bye 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: next week. 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Then they play Washington at home to close the regular season, 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: and I, you know, unless there's some tiebreak rule that 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: I don't understand, I think because of the head to 109 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: head over Ohio State, they would get in even if 110 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: they were to lose, regardless of what else happens. 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: I could be wrong on that. 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: We'll get our Fox Sports radio research team here to 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: do our best to get on it, but realistically they 114 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: should be in Jmart. Well, we wait for a final 115 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: in Georgia, Tennessee. I do want to ask you a 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: little bit about a team that you know. It's a 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: little bit of a follow up because I think we 118 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: were actually a little bit ahead of this last week. 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: But a week ago, you and I came on after 120 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: the big game, which was LSU Alabama. LSU got destroyed 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: at home. The final score in that game last week 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: was forty two to thirteen. LSU's only touchdown came basically 123 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: in the final minute, when the game had long been 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: since been decided. I bring it up because LSU goes 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: to it. And by the way, I only bring this 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: up because I think you and I were pretty critical 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: and I think there were a lot of people, Oh 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: it's Alabama Alabama's had success against them. 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Whatever. 130 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, I only bring it up because LSU went to 131 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Florida earlier today on Saturday. They lose twenty seven sixteen. 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: It's their third straight loss. They look completely inept again. 133 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: And I'll just say this. You know, I was always 134 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: a Brian Kelly supporter, but it's year four. You look 135 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: at the resume, They're sitting at six and four right now. 136 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: They lost to what we now know is a bad 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: USC team, got destroyed by Alabama, got destroyed by Texas 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: A and M Florida. I'm not gonna give LSU a pass, 139 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: but I do think Florida is probably a little bit 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: better with DJ Lagway the fresh quarter back. Yeah, but 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: it does feel like I don't know that this Brian 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: Kelly one hundred million dollar transaction. Uh just don't really 143 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: know exactly what to make of who LSU is right 144 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: now as a football program. 145 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either. I mean the text that I 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: sent you midway through the third quarter of that game 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: was LSU were the biggest frauds this year. And the 148 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: reason I call them frauds isn't because people had them 149 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: winning the national championship, but because at some point a 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: lot of folks tried to talk themselves into LSU being good, 151 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: and they're not that Texas A and M. Although it's 152 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: gonna be this huge game and all this, there's just 153 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: nothing there. There's there's no there there and Nussmeyer's fine, 154 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: but there's nothing special there. Nothing on the offense scares you, 155 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: Nothing on the defense scares you. And I would suggest 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: that Brian Kelly comes back next year and does this again, 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: that'll be the last year he's there. They can't They're 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: not going to abide this for very long. And things 159 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: have gotten tougher, more competitive in the SEC, and LSU 160 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: is now just kind of one of those middle of 161 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: the road teams. They've been leap frogged by a couple 162 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 4: of other schools that I don't think are coming back down. 163 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: So something has to change because they have to be 164 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: seen as one of the most disappointing teams of the 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: year with everything that happened last year. Then you come 166 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: back this year and you find out again and you 167 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: said this last week, Aaron, you find out how good 168 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels actually was, right, Yeah, yeah, because now you 169 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: see what it looks like without him. 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: Well, and what's crazy about LSU. 171 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: And this is going to sound weird because you said, 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: you know, you said something a second ago, but you know, 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: you could actually argue even though they play most of 174 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: their big former SEC West rivals, the schools that they 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: would play every year, Old Miss, Alabama, Texas, A and M, 176 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: you could actually argue that this year they kind of 177 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: got the schedule breaks Old Miss at home, Alabama at home, 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: no Texas, no Tennessee, no Georgia. So like this was 179 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: kind of the year that you know, you were supposed 180 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: to kind of make moves. It is year three, you 181 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: have a lot of your guys, and yes, you didn't 182 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: lose a Heisman Trophy winner. And I'll say this is 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would sit there and say, oh, 184 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: this was a team that was gonna win a national championship. 185 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: But to be six and four in a year where 186 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: you don't play Texas, you don't play Tennessee, you do 187 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: not you get Alabama and Old Miss at home. That 188 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: is not ideal. By the way, A quick update in Athens, 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Georgia now up thirty one seventeen on Tennessee with two 190 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: twenty six to go. Tennessee will get the ball back. 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: They have two timeouts plus the new two minute timeout 192 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: in college football, Jamart, We'll get to that game, I 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: think once this one goes final. But to kind of 194 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: put a bow on LSU, it is it is like, 195 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: like I think that's the crazy part is you could 196 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: argue they actually got a couple of nice schedule breaks 197 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: this year with no Tennessee, no Texas, no Georgia. As 198 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: I said, Alabama at home, Old Miss at home. By 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: the way, worth noting like Oklahoma's not good, but they're 200 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: at home. And so it is kind of interesting because 201 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 2: for people who don't know the schedule, the sec the 202 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: way the schedule works is they're just gonna flip the 203 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: schedule next year, so your home games are now road games, 204 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: your road games are now home games. So next year 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: LS he's gonna have to go to Bama two, Old 206 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Miss two Oklahoma, et cetera. I just don't think it's 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: gonna get much better. Not sure if you have anything 208 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: else on LSU. J Mart did want to ask you 209 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: really quick in this game. You know, a few weeks ago, 210 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Florida makes the decision to bring back Billy Napier for 211 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: another season. I was actually okay with it, only because 212 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Lagway had really shown some flashes in the Georgia game 213 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: that he got. He had shown flashes all year, but 214 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: Florida was playing very well against Georgia two weeks ago 215 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: prior to his injury, and I think basically the administration 216 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: of Florida just basically said, we think we have our 217 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: quarterback of the future in this transfer portal world. We're 218 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: gonna lose him if we fire the coach. We want 219 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: to run it back. We want to see what it 220 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: looks like for a full year with Lagway. Don't know 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: that that's one hundred percent the reason, but I just 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: bring it up because Florida gets the win. I thought 223 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: it was the right decision given the circumstances, to bring 224 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: back Billy Napier for one more year. And it looks 225 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: like because they have Florida State to end the season, 226 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: who might be the only bigger fraud this year that 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: LSU Florida is going to, at the very minimum get 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: Bowl eligible. 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: I know that's not. 230 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: The standard at Florida, but I think there is a 231 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: little bit of momentum there. 232 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: Just a couple weeks after they decide to keep Billy 233 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: Napier for one more year. 234 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree, and I think, you know, 235 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 4: I definitely believed a month ago there's no way Napier 236 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: was keeping that job. And now I kind of feel 237 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: the same way you do. I'm glad they're bringing him back. 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: And you hear you know, they like playing for him, 239 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: they like him around the university, things like that, And 240 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: I think you can see it because you know, when 241 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: we host a Breadzone Radio a couple of weeks ago 242 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: on the Sunday, you could tell Dallas had checked out. Yep, 243 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: they were just done right like you could just see 244 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: a team that had quit or they were just finished. 245 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: They didn't have any interest in doing very much. The 246 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: Bears kind of look like. 247 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: That right now to me as well. 248 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: Yes, Florida looks like the opposite, because their schedule tells 249 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: you they were just gonna get boat right down the stretch. 250 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: Yet they're showing up and playing hard. They're showing up 251 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: and playing hard for their coach, they're showing up at 252 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: winning games like them. Being five and five right now 253 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: is actually pretty impressive in my opinion, considering what they've 254 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: dealt with and where they started and kind of the 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: trajectory of what we thought they might be. I think 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: Napier's done an okay job, and I certainly do not 257 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: think he's lost the locker room or lost the football team. 258 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: And you mentioned Lagway and trying to keep him from 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: entering the portal. I think all of that plays to 260 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: Napier's strainths and for. 261 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: Him to win. 262 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: I think you win this game. I think most Florida 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: fans are probably just going to say, yeah, you know what, 264 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: probably a good call. Let's see it one more time. 265 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: Let's make sure before we move on too quickly. This 266 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: guy might be okay. 267 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple quick thoughts here as we put a 268 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: bow on this opening segment and then wait for the 269 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: final of Georgia Tennessee. We are at the two minute 270 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: time out, Georgia up thirty one to seventeen in that game. 271 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: First of all, with Florida, two things. 272 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: One, some of those losses early in the season that 273 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: looked really bad at the time not so bad. You know, 274 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Miami listed We could criticize the defense and how they've played, 275 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: but Miami is clearly a very good team. They were 276 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: ranked nineteenth at the time when they played them. It 277 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: looks like Miami's probably going to be an eleven to 278 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: one team playing for an ACC title, and then Texas 279 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: A and M all of a sudden, not quite as 280 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: bad as as maybe they looked at the time. And 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: then what I would just say really quickly with Florida 282 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: is for people who maybe don't follow them on a 283 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: day to day schedule. But since that A and M loss, 284 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: you beat Mississippi State, you beat UCF, you lose to 285 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Tennessee in overtime. Yeah, you beat Kentucky pretty handily. And 286 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: then the Georgia game, as I said, you basically you 287 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: basically were in control until Lagway gets hurt. 288 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: You lose to Texas last week. 289 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: So basically, the three teams that you've lost to since 290 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: since about mid September are three teams that are consensus 291 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: top ten teams right now. And it looks like Billy 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Napier is going to be back, but Florida really gets 293 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: the signature win of his time there less you not 294 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: so much. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live 295 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: from the tire Rack dot Com studios. There's two minutes 296 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: left in Athens. Georgia's up thirty one to seventeen in 297 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: that one will come back. See if Georgia can hold 298 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: on and what are the ramifications in the all of 299 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: a sudden very interesting SEC. We'll discuss that next. Fox 300 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 301 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 302 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 303 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 304 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: listen live. 305 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin. 306 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tierraq dot com studios 307 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: and we do have a final in the big college 308 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: football game of the evening, Georgia, which in the most 309 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: recent college football Playoff poll was ranked twelfth. They would 310 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: have been the first team left out of the playoff 311 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: field if the brac IT was out because of the 312 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: way the bracket fell. 313 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: They take care of Tennessee. 314 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: Final score in Athens thirty one to seventeen j Mark 315 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: and with the loss to from Tennessee to Georgia, we 316 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: now have Texas and Texas A and M atop the 317 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: SEC standings, both at five and one overall. Texas A 318 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: and M still has Auburn and Texas. Texas plays Kentucky 319 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: next week at home. Looking like the winner of Texas 320 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: Texas A and M is going to play for an 321 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: SEC title, and then as we said, to lead the show, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, 322 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: Ole Miss all tied with two losses in the lost 323 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: column in the SEC. So things getting getting interesting in 324 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: the Southeastern Conference right now for sure. 325 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: And I have no idea how it's going to shake out, 326 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: but luckily we are going to have to see that 327 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: at some point. So we're going to get some kind 328 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: of a finish and some kind of a now to 329 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: all of this, and there is going to be a 330 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: national champion. But you look at that, and just as 331 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: you laid it out, that's a mess, man. I mean, 332 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: you've got five eight and two teams overall. You've got 333 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: your two teams at five and one in the conference. 334 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: Then you've got four teams with two losses. I could 335 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: argue right now that the one that I think I 336 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: could argue the whole Miss is the best of all 337 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: of them right now in terms of how they're playing football, 338 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: and they have a just incredible roster as well. You 339 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: look at one loss that they had where we would 340 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: be having a completely different conversation if they hadn't blown 341 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: that one, But they found a way to lose one 342 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: extra game that they should not have lost. All of 343 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: these teams are not going to get in, So the 344 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: question is which ones don't. And it isn't necessarily because 345 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: of which one is better. It's because of what the 346 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: schedule has for them and where they stack up in 347 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: terms of tie breaks and all that getting to an 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: SEC championship and all that. We've talked about this sort 349 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: of on and off for weeks, but the unbalanced schedule 350 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: is going to rear its head big time this year 351 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 4: because somebody that might be deserving is not going to 352 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: get an opportunity over a team that maybe is even 353 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: less deserving, just because of the way the schedule played out. 354 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 3: Zero doubt. 355 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's gonna be very interesting because you know, listen, Texas, Texas, 356 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: A and M. One of them is going to get 357 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: to the SEC championship game. Let's say it's Texas. I mean, 358 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: that would probably eliminate Texas A and M because they'd 359 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: be nine to three in the regular season. But I mean, 360 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: you just look at how about this just Georgia Tennessee Alabama. Georgia, 361 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: by the way, their SEC schedule is completely done, so 362 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: they are done in league play. Tennessee plays Vanderbilt at 363 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt end the season, which. 364 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: All of a sudden is not an easy game. 365 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: But let's presume they win that, and then Alabama will 366 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: be favored in their final two games at Oklahoma and Auburn. 367 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: Just those three teams. Georgia just beat Tennessee, but Tennessee 368 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: beat Bama, but Bama beat Georgia. 369 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: It's like, what do you do with that? 370 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: Man? Transitive property doesn't work at all in this circumstance. 371 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then to your point about imbalanced schedules, Old 372 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: Miss has the win over Georgia, but they didn't play Tennessee, 373 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: didn't play Alabama, didn't play Texas A and m or Texas, 374 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy. Unlet's you know, and and 375 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: and I'll say this is like, I know, it's too early, 376 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: and people are gonna get mad that we're even having 377 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: a conversation. But as great as that win for Old 378 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Miss was last week against Georgia, they're probably gonna be 379 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: on the outside looking in because they have that bad 380 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: loss to Kentucky. Uh, the loss to LSU, even though 381 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: it was at LSU, looks increasingly not necessarily look, and 382 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: you know, it's and I'll say, this is like, you know, 383 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: it's funny. And I think we've talked about this a 384 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: few times the last couple of weeks, but I think 385 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: we all kind of thought that, like, oh, twelve team playoff, 386 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: if you get left out, you'll have no there's a 387 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: good no one's gonna have a legitimate gripe at number thirteen. 388 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: It's like, we'll tell Ole Miss that because right now 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: I would guess that Old Miss is probably gonna be 390 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: the team on the outside looking in. 391 00:18:59,600 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 392 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: And I would guess that Georgia, if they went out, 393 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: which they should, they have UMass in Georgia tech. I 394 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: sure hope they went out. You look at George. They 395 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: beat Georgia head to head, and it's like, but Georgia 396 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: has wins over Texas and Tennessee, so how can you 397 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: leave them out? 398 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting. 399 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: And I just I think fans the fog is starting 400 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: to clear and they're starting to realize is like I said, 401 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: I really think that we all thought this twelve team playoff, like, man, 402 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: if you can't make a twelve team field, you're not 403 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: gonna have much to complain about. Don't tell that to 404 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: old misfans if they get left out by the way, 405 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: it could be Tennessee. I mean, I guess in theory 406 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: it could be Bama. I don't think it would be Bama. 407 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: They but but you know, you just never know. By 408 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: the way, if it's if Tennessee somehow gets left out 409 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: in Alabama gets in Tennessee, will have the head to 410 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: head win over Alabama. So I just think it's an 411 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: interesting byproduct that I don't think any of us, including myself, 412 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: like took time to consider. Is that for the third time, 413 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: and I'll shut up, But it just I don't think 414 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: any of us really thought you'd have a leg to 415 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: stand on if you were number thirteen, number fourteen. And 416 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: I think the way things are trending, it looks like 417 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: there are some teams that are gonna have some real. 418 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: Grapes, yeah, or certainly yeah. I think that one thing 419 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: that's going to be strange is when you look at 420 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: the two losses for the two loss teams, that's where 421 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 4: ole Miss struggles. Even though ole Miss has beaten one 422 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: of the teams that would also be part of that competition. No, 423 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: but George has lost to ole Miss is better than 424 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: either one of ole Miss's losses. Yep. So that I 425 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: understand yes, head to head should matter, but it doesn't always. 426 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: We've seen that historically as a matter of fact, that 427 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: that it doesn't always. Georgia lost to two far better 428 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: teams than ole Miss did, and I think ole Miss 429 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: is the better team Between ole Miss and Georgia. I 430 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: think they have the better roster. I think they looked 431 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 4: like the better team last week when they played. They 432 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: may not get an opportunity to show it. They really 433 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: might not, because twelve spots. When you think about how 434 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: many have to come from various places, champions from each 435 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: league and stuff, all of a sudden you recognize that 436 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: it's not gonna be unlimited spots. And when you have 437 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 4: six teams that all have decent arguments out of the 438 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: best conference in America, you can't get them all in, 439 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: even though maybe you should, or maybe you'd want to. 440 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: In a perfect world. It is the most imperfect sport 441 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 4: that you could possibly find. It makes it great like 442 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: watching this playoffs gonna be unreal and we're gonna feel 443 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: sorry for the team that doesn't get in. We can 444 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 4: ultimately say, yeah, you shouldn't have lost those two games, 445 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: those two games, but then everybody else that did that 446 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: gets in. Above you, that's gonna be a hard pill 447 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: to swallow. 448 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: Real quick. 449 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: I have two kind of big picture questions. One have 450 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: we taken the time to consider? And I'll ask you this. 451 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Let's say Georgia gets into the SEC. It doesn't matter. 452 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: It could be Georgia, could be Tennessee, it could be Bama, 453 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: could be all missed. Let's say, you know, tech, Let's 454 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: say Texas beats beats Texas, A and m okay, And 455 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: let's say Texas wins the SEC championship and Texas is 456 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: clearly the best team in the SEC. But obviously whoever 457 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: would lose to them in the conference championship would take 458 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: a third loss? Do you think that team do you 459 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: think won? Your opinion, but then, well your opinion on 460 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: two different things. Do you think that a team that 461 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: loses in the conference championship should be punished for playing 462 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: an extra game? 463 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: So in theory, yeah, right, you know what. 464 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, and for the for the audience that 465 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: might you know, you're in your car, you're doing a 466 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: million things. Georgia finishes the regular season ten to two. 467 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: They then go to the SEC championship game and lose 468 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: a third game. Should they still get in over A 469 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: Tennessee over and Old Miss over a Bama, And that 470 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: could apply to Bama, that could applied to anybody that 471 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: gets in at ten to two, because you would essentially 472 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: be punishing that team for making the SEC Championship. 473 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's gonna depend. Like 474 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: I think the two things you laid out are a 475 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: little bit different. If they lose the third game, I 476 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 4: would still put them in over Tennessee, but I wouldn't 477 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: put them in over all Miss because of the head 478 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 4: to heads. Those are the And I understand that that 479 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: doesn't make entirely all the sense because they did have 480 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: to play the extra game, but that's kind of part 481 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: of that territory, right like they that's kind of like 482 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: the playoff. The playoff begins a little bit early for them, 483 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: and it's sort of the thing is it's like, do 484 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: you even want to play in that game? I know 485 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 4: in that case and the answer might be no as 486 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: a matter of fact, but you also know if you 487 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: don't play in it, you're probably not getting in because 488 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: at that point in time. Yeah, Like, man, it makes 489 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: my head hurt. The whole thing makes my head hurt 490 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: because there's no perfect answer to this question. But you can't. 491 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: We have to at least maintain the integrity of the 492 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: regular season to the extent that if Georgia goes to 493 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 4: the SEC title game and loses, I still think they 494 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: have to get in over Tennessee because they beat them 495 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: head to head by two touchdowns. But I also think 496 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: all things equal, ole Miss should then get in over 497 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: them because ole Miss beat them head to head. So, yes, 498 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: this is this is a mess. It's an absolute mess. 499 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: It's gonna be crazy good content, but it's also going 500 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: to be infuriating. 501 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one more thing before we get to the sacred 502 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, big picture of your opinion. What do 503 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: you just think in general about the the auto bid philosophy. 504 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: You know, I'll just be transparent really quick. I'm okay 505 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: with it. 506 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 7: Uh. 507 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: You know, listen, we expanded the playoff, and the argument 508 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: at the time was, oh, you know, we need to 509 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: capture all corners of the country and it's become too 510 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: much of an SEC dominated sport. And at the time, 511 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve never gets in and da da da dah, 512 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: and so like we you know, by the way, the 513 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: group of five has no real pathway to the playoff, 514 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: et cetera. I personally have no fundamental issue with the 515 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: auto bids, but I also know that, you know, if 516 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: one of these SEC teams, whether it is Tennessee, whether 517 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: it is Old you know, Ole miss they're gonna have 518 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: a great win over they might get left out. Tennessee 519 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: might have a great win over Alabama, they might get 520 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: left out. And then you look at say a Miami 521 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: team that has a bad loss to Louisville and really 522 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: like their best win. Of course, could in theory be 523 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: like a Florida team that no, you know, like half 524 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: the SEC bet. Like again, I'll just be quick and 525 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: I'll get it back to you. I have no issue 526 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: with with with the auto bids, but I know some 527 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: people will. And I do know that if some of 528 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: these SEC teams get left out for you know, a 529 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: three loss Big twelve champ or whatever, there's going to 530 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: be an argument. 531 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: There's going to be a conversation. Just curious for your thoughts. 532 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I almost feel like you have to do it 533 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: in order to maintain the hope for the country. Like 534 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: for other conferences, it can't just be the top six 535 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: from the Big Big ten and the top six from 536 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: the SEC. Even if those are the teams that you 537 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: would make the strongest argument for in a given year 538 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: or whatever like that conference champions if those conferences exist, 539 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: they have to have some kind of a pathway. They 540 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 4: have to have some way to get there. And I 541 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: do think the argument that you push back on is this, 542 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: everybody starts at zero and zero. Everybody has an opportunity 543 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: to win a championship. Everybody has an opportunity to win 544 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: a conference championship. If you lose a couple of games 545 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: and you actually leave it in the hands of someone else, 546 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: then that might bite you. Like you have the opportunity 547 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 4: to control your destiny until you don't. And at this point, 548 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: unfortunately for one or two of these teams in the SEC, 549 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: for a team maybe in the Big ten or whatever, 550 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: they have put that they've lost their agency. They no 551 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: longer have the freedom to determine their own destiny. They're 552 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: going to be dependent upon something else. And I think that, 553 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: all things being equal, I'm with you. I don't have 554 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 4: a fundamental problem with it. I actually think it's the 555 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: way it has to be. I just I don't think 556 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: that you can run a system sports where it feels 557 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 4: so lopsided and where. And we've all said we want 558 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: the little guys to get an opportunity at least one 559 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: of those teams. We wanted Boise State and TCU to 560 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: have opportunities for years and all this kind of stuff. 561 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: Making sure that they at least have a representative, I 562 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: think is a good thing for the sport. 563 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: So I agree, I agree, I will be curious you 564 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: know what the reaction is. By the way, the other 565 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: counter to the SEC argument is that some of the 566 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Big ten teams that could in theory get in really 567 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: will have pretty light schedules. And you know, we've talked 568 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: about this, we just talked about with the SEC. But 569 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: you look at Penn State in Indiana right now, both 570 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: in the top five. By the way, Texas as well. 571 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: So this isn't an SEC bias segment here, but right 572 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: now Texas, Texas, Indiana, and Penn State have zero combined 573 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: top twenty five wins. Now, Texas will have to beat 574 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: Texas A and M and probably you know, not necessarily 575 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: win the Big Ten Championship, Big SEC Championship. But if 576 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 2: Indiana loses to Ohio State next week, I mean those 577 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: two teams are going to those two teams being Indiana 578 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: and Penn State will both likely finish eleven and one, 579 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: So wouldn't it just be a small school acc big 580 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: twelve thing. But I do think it's an interesting conversation, 581 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: and I'm already afraid of where it's probably gonna go. 582 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: J Mart, because you do know, if a ten and 583 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: two old miss gets left out, if a ten and 584 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: two Tennessee, whoever it is, you know, come that Sunday, 585 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: somebody's gonna be demanding expansion, anything else. To put a 586 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: bow on this jamark before we get to the sagam No. 587 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that the inevitable expansion probably comes 588 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: at some point. I hope that they can shut that 589 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: flume off. I kind of if it never goes past twelve, 590 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 4: I think we're probably gonna be best off. Even though 591 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna remain imperfect, you're still gonna get an unbelievable product. 592 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: And that's the one thing we have to remember is 593 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 4: once we get to the twelve team. 594 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: Playoff, man, that's gonna be fun. 595 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: That's gonna be so great, and it's gonna be I 596 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be kind of game changing when it 597 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: comes to the way we consume college football in the 598 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: bowl season and in. 599 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: January, and so I just can't wait to get there. 600 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: And I think one of the great things about college 601 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: football is we end up having all these kind of 602 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 4: debates of hypotheticals and all of this that you just 603 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: don't get in other sports. 604 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not sold that just with the way 605 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: the schedules worked out and just how the how things 606 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: fell like, I don't think it's gonna be a potential 607 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: scenario where we get five teams finishing tied for second 608 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: most years. I think it'll probably balance itself out a 609 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: little bit better going forward. But again, you know what 610 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: the calls will be if somebody through the SEC feels 611 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: like they should have been in and get left out. 612 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio erin Tors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting 613 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: live from the Tirek dot com studio. Should mention Rapid 614 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: Radios or the official communication device of Fox Sports Radio 615 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: in an emergency. 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For you do though first time this 622 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: evening to Seger, what is trending? 623 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 7: Hello, gentlemen, and it is a twelve team playoff field now. 624 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: The final playoff bracket will be announced in well less 625 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 7: than a month, December the eighth. It's the five highest 626 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 7: rank conference champions that get the automatic bids. Only the 627 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 7: top four get the first round buys. They mentioned on 628 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 7: the Notre Dame telecast today the Irish could be home 629 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 7: for a first round campus site playoff game before Christmas. 630 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: They're not at a conference. 631 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 7: As for the quarterfinals, New Year's Eve, the Fiesta Bowl 632 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 7: and the other three quarterfinals will be New Year's Day, 633 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 7: including as the Rose Bowl wants in its regular afternoon 634 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 7: January first time slot, even if that means they're a 635 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 7: quarterfinal every year. Number one Oregon is still undefeated after 636 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 7: winning sixteen to thirteen at Wisconsin with ten points in 637 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. Georgia, ranked twelfth, got the home win 638 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 7: over Number seven Tennessee thirty one seventeen. Georgia has beaten 639 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 7: the Balls eight straight times. There are four late games 640 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 7: in college football right now, about two minutes to go 641 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 7: in the first half at number six BYU Cougars were 642 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: down seven nothing to Kansas. After the first quarter. It's 643 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 7: BYU ten seven in the lead for the moment Kansas 644 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 7: had as the third and goal coming up. Eighteenth ranked 645 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 7: Washington State, with an eight and one record, is playing 646 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 7: on FS one right now, early third quarter leading at 647 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 7: New Mexico twenty eight to fourteen, under two minutes to go. 648 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 7: Memphis ready to go to nine and two leads forty 649 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 7: six eighteen against UAB, and it's mid second quarter at 650 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 7: UNLV Rebels ahead of San Diego State twenty one to nothing. 651 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 7: Thirteenth ranked Boise State now nine to one after its 652 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 7: win at San Jose State forty two to twenty one. 653 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 7: Ashton gent three touchdown runs. Arizona State won twenty four 654 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 7: to fourteen at sixteenth rank Kansas State. Stanford kicked a 655 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 7: fifty two yard field goal on the final play to 656 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 7: beat nineteenth ranked Louisville thirty eight thirty five. Clemson scored 657 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 7: a late td to win it Pitt twenty four to twenty. 658 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 7: Top two twenty five matchup at South Carolina went to 659 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 7: the game Cocks over Missouri thirty four to thirty in 660 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 7: a back and forth fourth quarter. At Florida, Gators defeated 661 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 7: number twenty two LSU twenty seven to sixteen, and Tulane 662 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 7: clinched the spot and its American Conference Final with a 663 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 7: thirty five nothing victory at Navy. In the NBA Boston 664 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 7: in overtime edge Toronto, which has lost seven in a row. 665 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 7: Lakers won their fifth straight with a win at New Orleans. 666 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 7: Victories for Dallas and Charlotte as well. Houston Texans wide 667 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 7: receiver Nico Collins will play Monday night at Dallas. He's 668 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 7: off the injury report after missing five games with a 669 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 7: hamstring injury. 670 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger. 671 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Towards 672 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. 673 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: We'll come back continue the conversation on week twelve of 674 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: the college football season, including something very interesting Deon Sanders 675 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: had to say after Colorado got another win this week. 676 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that. Next, we'll discuss what Dion said. Fox 677 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 678 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 679 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio. 680 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: Eric Towards Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the 681 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: TIREC dot Com studios. 682 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: A important score to keep an eye on. 683 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 2: BYU alone atop the Big Twelve standings, they are playing 684 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: Kansas at home. It is ten to ten with a 685 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: minute to go heading into halftime. BYU has the ball 686 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: in the red zone. As we just discussed a moment ago, 687 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: the winner of the Big Twelve does get an automatic bid, 688 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: so BYU U looking to get to the Big Twelve 689 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: championship game, where in theory, if everything breaks the way 690 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: it is right now, they will play the Colorado Buffalos. Jmark, 691 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: Colorado one again today. I want to get something Deon 692 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: Sanders said in half a second, Jmark. But listen, I 693 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: know we keep being on it on this show. I 694 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: think this is an incredible story. Two years ago Colorado 695 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: was not only one and eleven. They were they were 696 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: getting embarrassed. I mean, they lost by thirty one to 697 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: Air Force, they lost by forty two to Minnesota. They 698 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: lost by forty two to the same Utah Utes that 699 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: they beat today pretty convincingly. I know Utah is dealing 700 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: with a lot of injuries. I know we've talked about 701 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: it a lot over the last couple weeks. I give 702 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders coach prime, so much credit. This team is 703 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: so improved, and as I said, they're eight and two 704 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: control their own destiny in both the Big twelve race 705 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: and of course the college football playoff race as well. 706 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: Not much to add, you're right one hundred percent, he's 707 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: coach of the year. I know Elko's done a nice job. 708 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: You can and signetti right there, But I mean, you 709 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: look at what Colorado was expected to do. You've got 710 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 4: the Heisman front runner, You've got obviously his son's playing 711 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 4: outrageous football. Two But eight and two Colorado, like I pray, 712 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 4: I think I said to see you last week. But 713 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: I am really hopeful they're in the playoff me too, 714 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 4: because I want it. I want to see them there. 715 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: I think that I think it would be so much 716 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: fun and for all of the and I think deserve it. 717 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: Scrutiny that Dion took in the off season, especially with 718 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: just some of the self inflicted wounds, with some of 719 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: the things he said, and the way the journalists and 720 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: the media kind of that whole rigamarole and everything that 721 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: was going on. Everything's been shut down and they've just 722 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: played football. In one and there's nothing negative to say 723 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 4: about them. They're not a story for the wrong reasons. 724 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 4: They're a story for the right reasons. And all the 725 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 4: credit in the world what he has done. I don't 726 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: think anybody expected this to be what Colorado did this year, 727 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: and it is extraordinary. 728 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: It is extraordinary. And you did mention the quote rigamarole 729 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: involving the media. Well, you know, you said it was 730 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: all over and it was all about football. 731 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: Now, maybe not, maybe I missed something. 732 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: No, it's okay. 733 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: After the game, coach probably was talking a little bit 734 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: about Travis Hunter, his Heisman capabilities and all that, and 735 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: you know, should Shudoor be in in New York, all 736 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: that good stuff. 737 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say. 738 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 8: Don't allow their hatred for me to interfere with our kids' success. 739 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 8: They got to stop that. Y'all got to stop some 740 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 8: of y'all like that. Y'all got to stop that. Man, 741 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 8: get the kids what they deserve. Man, I had my turn, 742 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 8: you had I played fourteen years and fourteen years to 743 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 8: hate me and now let it go. 744 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: Do you believe that there's any type of disdain like 745 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: do you believe that hatred for Dion Sanders is keeping 746 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: I guess you know that what now that I hear 747 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: it again, I don't really know that that was necessarily 748 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: like a Travis Hunter isn't gonna win the Heisman because 749 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: of me thing. I think it's more about the team 750 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: and the players. Do you have any problems with anything 751 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: that he said right there? 752 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: I know what he's saying. I don't think it's something 753 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 4: that needs to be saying. I think that's the mistake 754 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 4: that he makes here, is he is he's revealing too much, 755 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 4: like there's no reason to even do this. They're gonna 756 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: get their flowers. Travis Hunter is the Heisman front runner, 757 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: and if you look at the odds, he's pretty far 758 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: in front. I think Gens's behind him, but fairly far 759 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 4: behind him. Gabriel I think faded tonight. Cam Ward is 760 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 4: now like a I think it was like plus fourteen 761 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: hundred or something like that. So that ain't gonna happen. 762 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: So Hunter's probably gonna win, and deservedly so. And I 763 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 4: just don't think that you need to do this while 764 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 4: come after me because whatever, or let it go, man, 765 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: and don't let this affect it. I just don't think 766 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 4: it's a positive. I don't think there's any reason to 767 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: do it. I had not heard that audio, But I 768 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 4: don't think that Colorado's not being talked about right now, 769 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: like Colorado is gonna be increasingly talked about because they're 770 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: winning games. It's not because of who the coach is 771 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 4: or is not. Is there animis from the media towards 772 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: Dion Some members absolutely no question, And it's not dating 773 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 4: back to his NFL days. It's dating back to some 774 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 4: of the altercations and things that have happened in the 775 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: past couple of years, and maybe even their opinion on 776 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 4: how many players exited the program, and who knows. There's 777 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 4: all sorts of reasons for that. But in terms of 778 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 4: I think like holding that against Shador or holding that 779 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: against Travis Hunter, I find that I wouldn't say it's 780 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: it lacks full credibility. I just think it's overdone. Like 781 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 4: that just sounds like an overreaction from Dion emotional when 782 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: trying to defend his kids, and I understand him trying 783 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: to defend his players in that spot, and of course 784 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: he's also speaking to possible recruits to or watching that like, oh, 785 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: he's got my back, and that's an important thing. If 786 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: he's still in college next year. But I just think 787 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: that's an unnecessary place for him to go because I 788 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 4: don't think that's a thing unless he makes it one. 789 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So so I tend to agree, And I 790 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what that was intended for. By the way, 791 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: I think I have a shador take that I might 792 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: have to run by you here in an hour three. 793 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's nothing bad, but I think there's something to 794 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: maybe the son of another prominent player in another sport 795 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: that is getting. 796 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: To talk feeling I know what this one might be. 797 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, i'll tell you what. 798 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk Brownie an hour too anyway, So maybe 799 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: i'll bring that up in hour two because I think 800 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: there's something there. 801 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: But i'll tell you what really quick. 802 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned Travis hunter is a overwhelming 803 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: favorite right now for the Heisman minus three seventy. That 804 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: means you would have to bet three hundred and seventy 805 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: dollars to win one hundred if you wanted to take 806 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: him in the odds right now. So Travis Hunner the 807 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 2: overwhelming favorite Colorado sitting at eight and two. 808 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: They play Kansas next week. 809 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: Kansas, by the way, is playing BYU right now tied 810 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: at the half. 811 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Erra toorards. 812 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios, 813 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: will come back inside the NBA, back like they never left. 814 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 815 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio. 816 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios. 817 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: Tirereck dot Com will help you get there, an unmatched selection, 818 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road has for protection, and over 819 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers. Tireck dot Com the way tire 820 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: buying should be. Jmart Do you want to get to 821 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: another story in a second? Something did just strike me 822 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: about We talked all about the college football Playoff and 823 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: all these SEC teams. I don't think this rises to 824 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 2: the level of an old miss or anything getting left out, 825 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: but I find it interesting. Right now on FS one 826 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 2: number eighteen, Washington State is playing. 827 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: Washington State is eight and one. They their only. 828 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Loss is to Boise on the road, which is obviously 829 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: in position to get the group of five bid boys 830 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: themselves is sitting at nine and one right now. 831 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 3: They're only loss at Oregon. 832 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 2: I only bring it up I don't want to spend 833 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: too much time talking Washington State football, but I bring 834 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: it up because the way the quote unquote PAC twelve 835 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: is structured, which this year is obviously only two teams, 836 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: that's Oregon State and Washington State. They are not part 837 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 2: of the group of five, so I only bring it up. 838 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: They're basically an independent like Notre Dame. So I'm just 839 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: thinking they finish eleven and one only loss at Boise. 840 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't think. 841 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: They're really gonna have a leg to stand up, but 842 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 3: I was just thinking, like, I mean, come on, eleven 843 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 3: and one the only loss. 844 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 4: It's fun It's funny, though. It's like I feel like 845 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 4: Notre Dame has a better chance as an independent with 846 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: one loss than Washington I think that's finishing. But it's 847 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: an interesting but I mean, I hadn't even thought about it, 848 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 4: I either one. Them being in the PAC two just 849 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 4: kind of you don't even pay attention to what they're doing. 850 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 4: But all they're doing is win a lot of football 851 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 4: games and having a really quietly excellent season, and it's 852 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 4: going to end in a meaningless exhibition bowl game Like there, 853 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 4: I don't see any pathway for them. 854 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I didn't expect you to have a scorching 855 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: hot take here at twelve oh three Eastern time on 856 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: Washington State. 857 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: It was just we're trying to drum one off, but 858 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 3: we'll save that for hour four. 859 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I was just I was just thinking about 860 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: it because they are not part of the group of 861 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: five as far as I know, and I'm almost certain 862 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 2: on that, and uh, you know, we're talking about Notre Dame. 863 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 2: If they went out, probably will get not probably they 864 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: will get one of the at large bids. Washington State 865 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: would fall in that bucket as well. Yeah, I don't 866 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: think eleven and one is going to get in. I'll 867 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: be curious if they, you know, put up a stink 868 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: or if you know, their coaches out there politicking in 869 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: the coming weeks. I don't know if anybody would listen, 870 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: But it was something that I was just thinking about. 871 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: Let's switch gears to the NBA, where we got some 872 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: interesting news about something that is very near and dear 873 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: to a lot of NBA fans, maybe more so than 874 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: the actual product. 875 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 3: On the court. 876 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: Neither here nor there, but no so so right before 877 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: we came on air, interesting story comes out and it's 878 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: finally starting to make headway. So obviously, you know, we 879 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: all know about the the the new TV contract that 880 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: kicks into place next year. ESPN and ABC will still 881 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: be the primary rights holder. They'll have the NBA Finals. 882 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: But obviously we know that that, you know, TNT lost 883 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 2: their part of the NBA package and from their NBC 884 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: and Amazon are coming in. And I think some people 885 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: probably knew this, some didn't, But there was some litigation 886 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: between Time Warner, which owns TNT, and the NBA, basically 887 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: Time Warner feeling like that, you know, NBA breached the contract. 888 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: Whatever. 889 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: I bring it up, because Time Warner and the NBA 890 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: settled their contract, settled their legal dispute today and as 891 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 2: part of that, we found out that inside the NBA, 892 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 2: we didn't know what the future of it was. Well, 893 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 2: it's back from the dead because apparently it has been 894 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: licensed out to ESPN. 895 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: This according to the Wall Street Journal. 896 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that I have very many details right now, Jmart, 897 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 2: but it sounds like, if I'm reading and understanding this 898 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: all correctly, that inside the NBA will be ESPN's postgame 899 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: show once this new contract is up and TNT no 900 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: longer has no longer has an NBA package. 901 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: I mean that's what it reads like. I mean I 902 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 4: read the article and licensing out. I mean they would 903 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 4: have the rights obviously to air inside the NBA, and 904 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 4: presumably it would replace what they would run in that spot. 905 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 4: I that's not how I expected this to go. Let's 906 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 4: say that, first of all, you look at it now, 907 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: they're gonna have Turners, gonna end up with rights to 908 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 4: Big twelve college football and basketball and or at least 909 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 4: the ability to run those ensimulcasts and all this other 910 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And you can, I will say this, 911 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 4: your Big twelve college football ratings will dwarf what. 912 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 5: You can do with the NBA. 913 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 4: Well, especially Ieah right, well, I mean just ask to Sager. 914 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 4: He'll tell you all about the ratings of the NBA. 915 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 4: Like it's not a like world class great television product 916 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 4: from a numbers standpoint, even if the games are good, 917 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 4: but inside the NBA going there. The part of this 918 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 4: that's intriguing to me. 919 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,479 Speaker 3: Is just how it works. 920 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how it's gonna work. And how angry is 921 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 4: Steven A. Smith, because like, you can't have inside the 922 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 4: NBA licensed to air on ABC and ESPN and then 923 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 4: still run your show out there, Like it's not possible 924 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 4: because it's gonna look like a minor league game compared 925 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 4: to a major league game. It's not gonna work. So 926 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 4: the only other option then is Steven A finds his 927 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 4: way like on inside the NBA, at which point inside 928 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 4: the NBA is not as good a product anymore. Like 929 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 4: with with due respect to Steve and A, he's a 930 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 4: good entertainer and everything else, but I don't want to 931 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 4: see him anywhere near that show. And I don't see 932 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 4: how you can have both, Like there's there are nights 933 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 4: inside the NBA's not on, and then maybe you have it, 934 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: it's still gonna feel like the B team now, Like 935 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 4: that's a that's a really interesting way. Does that also 936 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 4: mean they're going to have them as personalities on their 937 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 4: debate shows or discussion shows or anything to that extent 938 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 4: as well? Does this mean that there's going to be 939 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 4: talent exchanges to some degree? Like there's a lot that 940 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 4: needs to be ironed out here, But I definitely was 941 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 4: not expecting that inside the NBA was going to be 942 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 4: licensed content to ESPN and ABC, And I'm sure that 943 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 4: we will find out more in the days to come. 944 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one where you know. 945 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: I love being on in this time slot because we 946 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: get to react to so much in real time. 947 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: This is what that like. 948 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 2: I need some more details before, you know, much like 949 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: Washington State's college football playoff hopes. I need some more 950 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: details before I can dive too deep into this one, 951 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: because it's like, like you said. 952 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 3: Is first of all, is it a permanent replacement? Is 953 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 3: it one night? 954 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 5: You know? 955 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 2: Is it one night a week? Is it only for 956 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 2: the playoffs? Is it only for the regular season? 957 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 4: You know? 958 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: And like you said, is it I can't imagine a 959 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 2: world And listen, I don't get into other people's money, 960 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: other people's business. 961 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 3: But we know that Stephen A. Smith is in the 962 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 3: middle of. 963 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: A contract negotiation and it's reported that he's expected to 964 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: be the highest paid person at ESPN. 965 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 3: Good for him, you get what you're worth from your employer. 966 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: But if he, in theory, he is the highest paid 967 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: employee at ESPN, they're going to find as many ways 968 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 2: to use him as possible. And I don't I can't 969 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: imagine that that would not include NBA pre and post game. 970 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 3: And so by the way. 971 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: It is, is this may do they maybe keep the 972 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 2: crew they have for a pregame show and then do 973 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 2: Inside the NBA for post game, But then are you 974 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 2: paying too many people? And you know, there's just so 975 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: many things that need to be answered before I know 976 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: what to even make of this news. It's very interesting news, 977 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but I just don't really know 978 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 2: what to make of it. And I guess the number 979 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: one thing I would say is if Inside the NBA 980 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 2: kind of remains, you know, I'm sure the goal is 981 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 2: to keep it as much like it is right now 982 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: as you can, because that's why you're licensing out the 983 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: product is because it's an amazing product. 984 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: I just worry. 985 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't see a scenario where ESPN doesn't change it 986 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: up to the point that it doesn't have an impact 987 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 2: on the quality of the product, whether that's bringing in 988 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: their own quote unquote talent, forcing their own talent on 989 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: that set, whether it's you know, by the way, what. 990 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 3: Makes Inside the NBA. 991 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 2: And I say it all the time, the producers they 992 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: sit back and they kick their feet up, and I think. 993 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: J Mart, you've worked in TV production. I know that 994 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: I have. 995 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: And the reason I mean I could say tell you 996 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 2: I've never worked on ESPN's you know, countdown show. But 997 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 2: it's an overproduced show. It's just an overproduced show. And 998 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: what makes TNT, what makes Inside the NBA great is 999 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: they just turn on the camera. They let those guys 1000 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: talk as long as they want. I've said it for years. 1001 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: You know, there's no it's a half hour postgame show. 1002 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: It's an hour. They just go until they have nothing 1003 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: else to shit to say. Excuse me, And I just 1004 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 2: can't imagine a world where ESPN allows that to happen. 1005 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 2: You know, we see even now, Oh, we got to 1006 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: throw to SVP in the studio for his five six minutes, 1007 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: then throw back to the set, and it's just like, 1008 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 2: are you going to let Inside the NBA be inside 1009 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: the NBA? 1010 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 3: Because if not, I'm sorry, but it's hard for me 1011 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 3: right now to get excited. 1012 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I need to see, we need to 1013 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 4: see more specifics about it. I'm looking at and Andrew 1014 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 4: Marsch on Peace right now. That's just come out here 1015 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: in the last handful of menus is. TNT continues to 1016 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: be the home of the NBA this season along with ESPN, 1017 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 4: and will continue to produce Inside the NBA after it 1018 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 4: changes networks. So does that I mean ESPN has no 1019 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,919 Speaker 4: control over the show, and they're just gonna like get 1020 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: the disc or get the file and then be able 1021 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 4: to run that. Like, there's a lot that needs to 1022 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 4: be figured out here. There's just a lot that we 1023 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm just kind of scratching my head. I'm 1024 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 4: glad that we're still gonna have the opportunity to watch 1025 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 4: that group of guys do their thing. Though, I will 1026 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 4: say that that's the net positive of all this. 1027 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 5: Uh. 1028 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: I do hope that it remains autonomous in the way 1029 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 4: that it's done, because that's what makes it special. 1030 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 2: No doubt, and that to me makes it even more confusing. 1031 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: Like so if it's being produced by TNT, but it's 1032 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: still if it's running on ESPN, then like, you know, 1033 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 2: they have to. 1034 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 3: Use their brake structure and they're this and they're that. 1035 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 2: It's like again, maybe it's just something that you know, 1036 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: you and I revisit a week from now, because listen, 1037 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's exciting if Inside the NBA is 1038 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 2: basically Inside the NBA, just on a different TV network. 1039 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 3: J Martin, Yeah, I'm excited about it. 1040 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: It's the best pre and postgame show in any sport 1041 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 2: on American television. I just don't believe that we have 1042 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 2: any indication of believe that that's actually gonna happen. As 1043 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I was thinking about this, and 1044 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be mean spirited or whatever, but 1045 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 2: take out College Game Day. I mean, does ESPN do 1046 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 2: good pre and post on any sport like, like even 1047 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: like like the NFL stuff. It's like, you know, Fox 1048 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: is known for, uh, you know, the pregame show with 1049 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 2: how We and Tarry and all those guys, and it's 1050 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 2: like Fox has a great MLB postgame show. 1051 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 3: You know, you go on and on down the list. 1052 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really think of any of ESPN's 1053 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: studio shows pre and post as like must see TV. 1054 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 2: The way that inside the NBA is the way that 1055 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: College Game Day, which isn't of course on you know, 1056 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: which is on site, which isn't in studio. I don't 1057 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: even know if they do any sport well, now that 1058 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about. 1059 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I mean I would say, I mean, I 1060 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 4: think they have a lot of talent a lot of 1061 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 4: those sports. I don't know that they've ever put it 1062 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 4: together in one package to where it is really worked 1063 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 4: that well, Like I mean, I like a lot of 1064 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 4: the analysts they use for the NFL, but I'm not 1065 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 4: sure that their countdown shows and things like that have 1066 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 4: ever been particularly inviting. The best content I thought that 1067 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 4: they used to do. They they've can't. Like the old 1068 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 4: Baseball Tonight Show, for example, it was phenomenal and it 1069 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 4: was the way that you were able to catch up 1070 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 4: on the league every night. And I just felt like 1071 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 4: the analysis with Kirchin and Only and all those guys, 1072 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 4: It's just it was great television in terms of just 1073 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 4: being very informative from people that were passionate about the sport, 1074 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 4: and I felt like that was a great example of 1075 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 4: how to do it. But they don't do that anymore, 1076 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: Like that's not the same way. You can't find a 1077 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 4: show like that anymore. And so yeah, I don't know 1078 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 4: what it is. I mean, the college game Day is 1079 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 4: certainly the prime example of what they do right, but 1080 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 4: like outside of that, yeah, I'm not sure what I mean. 1081 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 4: Outside of like niche sports, I think they do well 1082 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 4: with tennis. I think they do pretty well with golf 1083 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 4: as well well and things like that, but in terms 1084 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 4: of the major sports, no, there's nothing that really stands 1085 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 4: out in terms of an actual full product. There are 1086 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 4: individual contributors in a lot of those products that I 1087 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 4: would point to and say, yeah, there's a I like 1088 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 4: that guy, I like that girl, like whatever it is. 1089 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 4: But I know they want to tell us that the 1090 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 4: WNBA crew is like unreal, but uh, I just I 1091 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 4: haven't like been opposed to it a few times. I've 1092 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 4: seen it, but it's not like I need to. I 1093 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 4: saw an article comparing it to Inside the NBA, and 1094 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: I just stopped trying to make such a thing. 1095 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes me sexist or not, 1096 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: but no, there's nothing. And it's not because they're women 1097 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 2: or whatever. There's no. 1098 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 3: There's nothing like Inside the NBA. 1099 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 2: No, there's not the And I do hope, I really 1100 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 2: do hope that uh wherever, not wherever it ends up, 1101 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 2: because it is going to ESPN for people just joining us. 1102 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 2: There was a report just hours ago TNT's Inside the 1103 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 2: NBA will be licensed to ESPN starting next year, when 1104 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 2: TNT no longer has NBA games. Speak for j Mart 1105 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: when I say that, I do hope that nothing changes 1106 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 2: with that show, because it's awesome as it is, and 1107 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 2: I am worried that things will change. 1108 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 4: So wait, one thing I'm gonna add to I'm gonna 1109 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 4: real quick because I just happened to read the Senni article. 1110 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 4: Maybe this is a little clarity TNT. According to Andrew 1111 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 4: March on Sports Business, TNT will receive global rights outside 1112 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 4: the US for inside the NBA House of Highlights in 1113 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 4: his parent company Bleacher Report. For the sources, they will 1114 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 4: have a full package will TNT of regular season and 1115 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 4: playoff games outside the US. So I suppose that's why 1116 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 4: they would continue to produce it because it's still running 1117 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 4: outside the country. Everywhere else is still going to get 1118 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 4: kind of what they've always had with TNT because they 1119 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 4: still possess the global rights in this new arrangement or 1120 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 4: this settlement, it's just going to be in America where 1121 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 4: it's going to be kind of all over the place, 1122 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 4: and so they're going to license out inside the NBA 1123 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 4: where they're not going to be running the games to 1124 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 4: someone that is, but they're still going to be doing 1125 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 4: the product. It's still confusing, but at the very least 1126 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 4: he explains maybe why they're still producing the show because 1127 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 4: there's a lot of other parts of the world that 1128 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 4: are still going to be getting kind of the t 1129 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 4: n T full product. 1130 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 3: Very interesting stuff. Glad we're gonna get them. 1131 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and and and hopefully we're all wrong, you know, 1132 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: hopefully we're all wrong, because I hope it's exactly the 1133 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 2: way that it is just on ESPN. I'm just not 1134 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: sold that it's gonna be and and and and by 1135 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: the way, let me just say this really quick, and 1136 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: I'll be quick because I know we got to get 1137 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 2: to break is that in defensive ESPN you know, different 1138 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, outlets, different networks have different priorities and and listen, 1139 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 2: you know, with due respect, and again I'm not here 1140 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: to talk about anybody's money, but they pay Scott vaan 1141 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: Pelt a lot, a lot of money too to to 1142 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 2: to do to do that Late Sports Center. And so 1143 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 2: that is why I think we have a lot of 1144 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: those short post games rap shows from uh from the 1145 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: from the from the es NBA crew. 1146 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 4: But again, by the way, I think that the more 1147 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 4: time you give Scott van Pelt, the better. 1148 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it's at the detriment, if it's at 1149 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 2: the detriment of inside the NBA, because it's at the 1150 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 2: detriment of the NBA post gas. 1151 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 4: True, if you're running inside the NBA. You're not gonna 1152 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: cut Inside the NBA short the way that you might 1153 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 4: fifteen minute countdown to get to the Late Sports Center. Here, 1154 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 4: You're probably gonna run the full forty five minute or 1155 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 4: whatever however long forty five to an hour depending on 1156 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 4: the breaks. But that's the other thing to me is 1157 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 4: just the structure of the breaks and all it's it's 1158 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 4: going to be really fascinating to see how all these 1159 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 4: moving parts work. 1160 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. We should probably revisit this 1161 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 2: next week. We'll see obviously that we don't know what's 1162 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: going to be happening in college football. There's gonna be 1163 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 2: a lot of NFL to preview and react to. But 1164 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 2: I think by next week we'll have some more clarity 1165 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 2: on what this exactly looks like. But Inside the NBA 1166 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 2: will be back in twenty twenty five, just on ESPN. 1167 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: Football fans be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio 1168 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 2: everyday morning, begetting at ten a m. Eastern seven Pacific 1169 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: for Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM, Brian No, 1170 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, professional better Bill Krackenberger will have you covered 1171 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 2: three hours before kickoff every Sunday morning, listening to Countdown 1172 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM right here on Fox Sports 1173 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Coming up, we'll stay in 1174 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 2: the NBA sort of new twist Bronnie James. 1175 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 3: You won't believe it. 1176 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tords, 1177 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 2: Jayson Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 1178 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: Tell you what want to come back talk Bronnie James, 1179 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: and also do want to get your thoughts from last 1180 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: night or from Friday night on the Jake Paul Mike 1181 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: Tyson Fight. Will do the all next. But let's get 1182 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 2: over the news desk first to Seger. Let the world 1183 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: know what's trending. 1184 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 7: My friend, did you see Netflix claim fifty to sixty 1185 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 7: million households? 1186 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 3: Not people? 1187 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 7: We're watching that globally. 1188 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 3: Sure, last night I. 1189 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 4: Think fifteen of them got to watch the stream though 1190 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 4: because such a disaster. 1191 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 7: It was a disaster, and the broadcast itself was not 1192 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 7: bathing itself in glory. 1193 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 3: As to say it was a tough watch and not 1194 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 3: just because of the streaming. 1195 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 7: Is yeah, people have said, oh yeah, we got these 1196 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 7: two Christmas NFL games on Netflix. 1197 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 3: The mics are going to go out left. 1198 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 7: No. I believe they got a regular rights holder already 1199 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 7: to produce those Christmas games. 1200 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 3: But if your stream is bad, that's bad. Sure staying 1201 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 3: tuned for that tough. 1202 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 7: You guys had mentioned the comparison of the NBA on 1203 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 7: television to for example, regular season ratings not boffo and 1204 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 7: certainly not great opposite football. Just this past week there 1205 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 7: was an ESPN NBA doubleheader that included a Lakers game. 1206 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 7: On Wednesday, it was one point five million viewers, and 1207 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 7: the previous Friday it was one point four million for 1208 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 7: a Lakers Sixers game on ESPN. Compare that to the 1209 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 7: college football last weekend getting over two million viewers for 1210 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 7: the late game utaw BYU didn't kick off until ten 1211 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 7: fifteen Eastern. 1212 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: How about Duke Kentucky got almost two million? The other 1213 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 2: night Detroit peaked in like one to nine. 1214 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 3: So it's like. 1215 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 7: Right around the playoff standings. Granted, but that's what I'm 1216 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 7: just hit. 1217 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 4: One nine and then cramp down the stretch. 1218 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh too, and then turn the ball over and you're 1219 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: still gotta be the number one pick in the draft. 1220 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: Though, sorry, sorry, but. 1221 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 7: The day game last Saturday, the neon Eastern for them 1222 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 7: on ESPN Georgia Tech Miami. That was three and a 1223 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 7: half million viewers. Wow, compared to the one and a 1224 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 7: half ESPN's getting in prime time during the week for 1225 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 7: NBA when more people are. 1226 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 3: Home for the Lakers too. It's not like they're putting 1227 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 3: the Charlotte and this is a tournament. 1228 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we're playing for the biggest prize in the 1229 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 4: sport right now in Marrid's copy. 1230 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 7: Very pretty court. So what wouldn't attract? 1231 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll move on. 1232 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 7: We had a game on Fox TV this afternoon from 1233 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 7: the LA Coliseum with USC scoring a touchdown in each 1234 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 7: quarter and beating Nebraska twenty eight to twenty and so 1235 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 7: Nebraska is five and five now. The Athletic points out 1236 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 7: that Nebraska football, with a chance to get Bowl eligible, 1237 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 7: has now lost nine straight games, including today. 1238 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh to eight. 1239 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 2: The last two years started five and three last year 1240 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: or five four, I think five three five or four 1241 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: last year, I don't remember. 1242 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 3: They couldn't get over the home. 1243 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had five wins last year, lost a bunch 1244 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 2: and then they were five and one this year and 1245 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: they're now five and five. 1246 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 3: As you just said. 1247 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 7: And Nebraska and in conference is two and five. Currently, 1248 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 7: we did have Ashton Genty with three touchdown runs. Boise State, 1249 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 7: ranked thirteenth, came from behind to win at San Jose 1250 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 7: State forty two to twenty one. In the last twenty 1251 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 7: five seasons of college football, three guys have had this 1252 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 7: many rushing yards through ten games. Ashton Genty is nearing 1253 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 7: nineteen hundred yards, Melvin Gordon at this point was just 1254 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 7: over nineteen hundred a decade ago. He was the guy 1255 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 7: banging the drug pregame at the Wisconsin game tonight. And 1256 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 7: Ladanian Tomlinson at this point in two thousand was near 1257 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 7: two thousand yards. But just those three guys on the 1258 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 7: list in the last twenty five years of college football. 1259 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 7: As for the two late games BYU rank sixth is 1260 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 7: up thirteen ten over a Kansas team that's three and six. 1261 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 7: This is under five minutes to go third quarter and 1262 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 7: it's mid fourth quarter. On FS one, eighteenth ranked Washington 1263 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 7: State eight and one this season, was up two touchdowns 1264 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 7: at the half. It's now tied at New Mexico twenty 1265 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 7: eight to twenty eight. 1266 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 3: There is no late game for Hawaii. 1267 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 7: They were on the road today lost fifty five to 1268 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 7: ten at Utah State Air Force shutout Oregon State twenty 1269 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 7: eight nothing. Memphis tonight did go to nine and two, 1270 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 7: got four touchdowns in the fourth quarter, so they won 1271 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 7: fifty three to eighteen over UAB. But nine and two 1272 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 7: record for Tulane a ranked team and undefeated in that 1273 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 7: American Conference and for sure going to the conference final 1274 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 7: now is Tulane impressively won thirty five nothing at Navy 1275 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 7: today in the ACC Syracuse one at cal North Carolina 1276 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 7: over wake Forest, Big twelve, Baylor Gota win at West Virginia, 1277 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 7: and tonight it was Iowa State. They've only lost two 1278 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 7: this year unranked, but did get a home win against 1279 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 7: Cincinnati thirty four seventeen. Did you notice Liberty today had 1280 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 7: to go overtime to win at UMass for crying out 1281 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 7: loud thirty five thirty four? Massachusetts football is two and eight. 1282 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 3: You know U Mass plays next week, that's Yukon. I 1283 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 3: assume the Georgia Bulldogs. 1284 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I have I think that I 1285 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 2: think that might have been independent schedule. 1286 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 7: I think it's U Mass every year for you, Kat, 1287 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 7: it's not just a regional. 1288 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 3: Remember U Mass joins the MAC next year, so so. 1289 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 7: You we won't see them at all on Saturdays. 1290 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. No, Yukona Notre Dame will be 1291 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: the only independence next year. 1292 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 7: By the way, Western Kentucky was five and zero. Conference 1293 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 7: USA lost at home twelve seven to Louisiana Tech. You 1294 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 7: mentioned Georgia Bulldogs beat Tennessee thirty one seventeen. Number one 1295 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 7: Oregon still undefeated after winning at Wisconsin sixteen thirteen. Lakers 1296 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 7: won their fifth straight. Boston Celtics won in overtime, and 1297 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 7: Texans wide receiver Nicole Collins off the injury report. He 1298 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 7: will play at Dallas Monday night. Back to you, Thank 1299 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 7: you very much. 1300 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: Steve to Saga will be back in just one moment 1301 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 2: with his extended update here about ten minutes from now. 1302 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1303 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: the Tirech dot Com studios. Jamar, I know we teased 1304 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 2: a Bronni segment, but I actually you know, we're a 1305 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 2: little shorter on time just because the first segment went long, 1306 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and the first segment was great, So I have no regrets, 1307 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 2: but I do want to talk a little bit about 1308 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 2: the fight. On Friday night, Jake, Paul and Mike Tyson, 1309 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: as the saga just told us sixty million households watched 1310 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 2: across the world. Was it the most appealing fight? And 1311 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 2: there were certainly some tech issues. Those seemed to be 1312 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 2: the two biggest takeaways. But but what was your takeaway 1313 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 2: from Friday night at Jerry World? 1314 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 5: Just that I hate this. 1315 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 4: You don't begrudge anybody for making money. But and Jake 1316 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 4: Paul even admitted that during the middle rounds he realized 1317 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 4: Mike was pretty much gassed, he had nothing left, and 1318 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 4: so he took his foot off the gas. Didn't want 1319 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 4: to embarrass him too much. 1320 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 5: All that. 1321 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 4: I mean, Mike's in his mid fifties. I just, I 1322 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 4: guess I'm a purist, But I want to remember Mike 1323 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 4: Tyson the way I watched him when I was a 1324 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 4: kid and all of this stuff. 1325 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 5: And I understand he's a much different. 1326 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 4: Guy now in terms of, you know, he did the 1327 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 4: cartoon on Cartoon Network, the Mike Tyson's Mysteries, and he 1328 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 4: was in the Hangover, and he's, you know, kind of 1329 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 4: reinvented himself to some degrees. And at times he's been 1330 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 4: very thoughtful and just kind of funny and played along 1331 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 4: with jokes and all this stuff, But I just I 1332 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 4: remember the guy that knocked out Michael Spinks, and I 1333 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 4: remember the guy that just invoked terror and everybody and 1334 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 4: we all bought his video game and everything else. And 1335 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 4: to see this, it's just I don't want to see. 1336 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 4: I don't want to remember that Mike Tyson had this fight. 1337 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 4: I just wish this wasn't a thing. I know, from 1338 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 4: a financial standpoint, from a number, from a raw number standpoint, 1339 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 4: from an interest level standpoint, from a tabloid standpoint. From 1340 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 4: all this stuff, I understand the value. I just don't 1341 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 4: like it personally. So I didn't watch it live. I 1342 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 4: watched a couple of highlights before the show because I 1343 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 4: knew we were going to talk about it, and of 1344 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 4: course I already knew the result. I knew it before 1345 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: the fight started what the result was going to be. 1346 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 4: But this is just not entertaining to me. I don't 1347 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 4: want to see legends hobble out there to do this 1348 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 4: one more time to make money as a spectacle. I 1349 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 4: just I guess I'm just a sports purist in that way. 1350 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 2: Oh so you don't want to see what were the 1351 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 2: big jokes last night? Mister Beast fighting Floyd Mayweather or 1352 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: something like. You know, I forget what it was, but 1353 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 2: it was basically, you know, pick pick fill in the 1354 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 2: blank YouTuber versus fill in the blank washed up boxers. 1355 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, listen, it's actually really funny that 1356 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 2: you say that, like you got you didn't see any 1357 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 2: entertainment value in it. It was really funny because throughout 1358 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 2: the day, like I I honestly, people were asking me 1359 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, I transparently have zero interest in 1360 01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 2: watching this, didn't care. 1361 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was gonna say and really, as. 1362 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 2: The day went on, one my wife actually asked me 1363 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 2: because her dad's a boxing fan, and her dad was 1364 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 2: gonna watch because of Tyson and he remembers the Mike 1365 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 2: Tyson that we all remember from the eighties and early nineties, 1366 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 2: and so once her dad was watching, she wanted to watch. 1367 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: But it was kind of funny because she kept asking me. 1368 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 2: She's like, why are they doing this? And I was like, well, 1369 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 2: it's because there's a lot of money, and she's like, yeah, 1370 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,919 Speaker 2: but he's fifty eight fifty nine, and I'm like, but peop, 1371 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, Netflix paid him a lot of money. 1372 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 3: And so. 1373 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess to me, the only My 1374 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 2: only real takeaway was, you know, I don't begrudge anybody 1375 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 2: for because of the money that they got. I do 1376 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 2: think the product was exactly what we should have expected. 1377 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 3: And I think there were people that. 1378 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 2: Oh, Jake Paul's a YouTuber and he's not a real boxer, 1379 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, but Mike Tyson's fifty eight, fifty 1380 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 2: nine years old, Like, and I know you didn't watch 1381 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 2: the fight, and he honestly didn't miss anything. But it 1382 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 2: was pretty clear pretty much by like round two, and 1383 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 2: by the way they were sure. First of all, I 1384 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 2: thought the product was bad because it was eight two 1385 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 2: minute rounds. And you know, I'll say this is that 1386 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: you know, you don't really realize the difference between a 1387 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 2: two round, two minute round and a three minute round 1388 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 2: until you see a two minute round. And it was like, 1389 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, by the time, you know, thirty seconds to 1390 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: feel each other out, you know, thirty seconds of grappling, 1391 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: and by the time you get done, it's like the 1392 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: round is already over. 1393 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 3: And so it wasn't a good product. But what I 1394 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 3: was gonna say was you could. 1395 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Pretty much tell by round two that that Mike Tyson 1396 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna have the legs to really do any damage. 1397 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 2: And actually Roy Jones kept saying that he's like, I 1398 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 2: don't like his legs. I don't like his legs. But yeah, 1399 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: it was just interesting throughout the day because I had 1400 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 2: no real intention of watching it, and then I got 1401 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 2: suckered in like everybody else, and I was kind of 1402 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 2: just disappointed with the product overall, and I probably. 1403 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Shouldn't have been. 1404 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so it is what it is real quick. 1405 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 2: You know, just segre just mentioned in a minute to 1406 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: go the quality the video quality was just not good. 1407 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 2: And I know dis Seger mentioned that, you know, you know, 1408 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 2: a different network is going to be producing the Christmas 1409 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,600 Speaker 2: Day games for the NFL, But I do think it 1410 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 2: is worth noting, you know, Netflix has the two Christmas 1411 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Day games for the NFL, and the quality of the 1412 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 2: stream was not very good. That was another issue if 1413 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 2: it you know, I know you didn't get a chance 1414 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 2: to watch, but that was another issue for sure. 1415 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1416 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 4: Well, I mean at least I saw the highlights after 1417 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 4: the fact. But I think that one advantage to this 1418 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,680 Speaker 4: for Netflix is that it's a trial balloon. This is 1419 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 4: something you can float out and test your streaming capabilities. 1420 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 4: And see what can change because you've got two big 1421 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 4: things coming. You've got the NFL games and then you've 1422 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 4: got WWE every week starting in January on Raw, and 1423 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 4: that's going to be some big time stuff too, So 1424 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 4: you're going to have you can have some new wrinkles 1425 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 4: to what you're used to if your Netflix internally, now 1426 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 4: WBE is going to be doing a lot of its 1427 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 4: own stuff and there are masters at it, so I 1428 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 4: don't really think there's gonna I think that's gonna be 1429 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 4: relatively seamless in the NFL. And you mentioned, and Steve 1430 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 4: mentioned that there's gonna be different different production teams and 1431 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 4: things like that working on the NFL deal. But I 1432 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 4: think you just if there were wrinkles that needed to 1433 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 4: be ironed out, if there were things that you needed 1434 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 4: to see, almost like you had somebody hack into your 1435 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 4: system to see where your security vulnerabilities were at a 1436 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,600 Speaker 4: company or something like that. This gives you an opportunity 1437 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 4: to see how far off the path you are so 1438 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 4: that you can get that stuff fixed next time you 1439 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 4: want to actually make a bid for something massive, which 1440 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 4: I'm sure Netflix is not done in terms of big 1441 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 4: time events that they're going to go for or even 1442 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 4: sports in big time leagues. 1443 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that there's a ton else to 1444 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 2: add here. Maybe take an early break, because. 1445 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 3: It was what it was. 1446 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 2: You know, I don't begrudge either guy for taking money. 1447 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,679 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't have as much of a problem 1448 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 2: with you know, Mike Tyson looking old and washed up 1449 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 2: because honestly, some of his his late career fights he 1450 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 2: didn't look very good as was. 1451 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 4: And I don't know, just celebrity death match without Clay, 1452 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 4: that's what it was. I don't mean Clay Travis, I 1453 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 4: mean Clay. Yeah. 1454 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 2: People, there's there's probably a younger generation that doesn't even 1455 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: know what celebrity deathmatch was. But yes, no, that's it. 1456 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 2: That's actually a very good way to describe it. And 1457 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 2: uh yeah, it wasn't. It was pretty quickly apparent that 1458 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 2: we were not going to get the fireworks that we wanted. 1459 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 2: I think there was even some references to Jake Paul 1460 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 2: from Jake Paul that that maybe he could have pushed 1461 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 2: on Mike Tyson a little bit harder, kind of out 1462 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 2: of respect to the champion. 1463 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 3: Didn't But it is what it is. 1464 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1465 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 2: the tyreq dot com studios. Well come back, we will 1466 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 2: turn it over to the Sager. He has the extended 1467 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 2: update on everything we missed throughout a busy, busy Saturday 1468 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,719 Speaker 2: and sports that's next. 1469 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. 1470 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jay Smartin. 1471 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,759 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from thetirerack dot com studios, as. 1472 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 3: We do every Saturday Sunday. 1473 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Depending on where you're listening, we do go to the 1474 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 2: news desk around this time. Steve Disager with the extended 1475 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 2: update to Saga. The floor is yours, my friend. 1476 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 3: Guys. 1477 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 7: A lot of college football to get to, but I 1478 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 7: must mention something that just ended in the NBA, in 1479 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 7: case you're unaware. In the late game last night for Sacramento, 1480 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 7: di Aaron Fox scored sixty points and they lost in 1481 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 7: overtime last night to Minnesota. He has just wrapped up 1482 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 7: a game where he scored forty nine at home, including 1483 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 7: two late free throws to make it a four point 1484 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 7: win Kings over Utah. That has just ended. Forty nine 1485 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 7: points for di'arin Fox, one of the top ten scorers 1486 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,600 Speaker 7: in the league so far this year. UFC three to 1487 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 7: H nine is at Madison Square Garden. Charles Olivera just 1488 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 7: won by unanimous decision. Coming up the finale of the night, 1489 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 7: John Jones against Steve A. Miocic, and I noticed the score. 1490 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 7: In women's college basketball today, Colorado State eighty five twenty 1491 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 7: eight over Columbia College of Missouri, which shot nineteen percent 1492 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,600 Speaker 7: from the floor, had ten baskets twenty one turnovers. 1493 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 2: Duke basketball men's basketball today, Yeah, they put it on 1494 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 2: somebody pretty good. 1495 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,839 Speaker 7: Wofford eighty six thirty five. Wafford had five three pointers 1496 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 7: five for thirty three. The Duke lead late in the 1497 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 7: first half today was forty three to nine. And then 1498 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 7: we had the game on Fox TV today and college 1499 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 7: football seventeenth rank Colorado at home it goes to eight 1500 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 7: and two this year beat Utah forty nine to twenty four. 1501 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 7: Utah's quarterback these days is Isaac Wilson. He had two touchdowns, 1502 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 7: four turnovers. Youts have lost six straight. Colorado's still top 1503 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 7: two in the Big twelve Conference. Judor Sanders three touchdown passes, 1504 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 7: three hundred forty yards, couple of turnovers. Colorado says Travis Hunter, 1505 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 7: today did a very rare thing because all in the 1506 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 7: same game he not only had an interception and over 1507 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,799 Speaker 7: fifty receiving yards on offense, but he had a rushing 1508 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 7: touchdown as well. They say that nobody had out all 1509 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 7: three of those in the same game since Champ Bailey 1510 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 7: in two thousand and that was in the NFL, not FBF. 1511 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 2: Really quick, guys, how do you think, like, say they 1512 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 2: get the fourth then say they win the Big Twelve, 1513 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 2: they get the four seed, they'd probably have to play 1514 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 2: like an Ohio State in round two. You think they 1515 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 2: could at least be competitive. I mean, the one thing 1516 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 2: I will say that Utah defense is really good. They 1517 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 2: put up forty nine freaking points today. I'm just curious. 1518 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know that I have a strong opinion yet, 1519 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 2: but if they're the four seed, they would probably play 1520 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 2: like an Ohio State Alabama ish type team in the quarterfinals. 1521 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 7: So don't you love the offense to be able to 1522 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 7: at least chase the game and keep it interesting? 1523 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:43,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1524 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, Utah I think was the top twenty. 1525 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,799 Speaker 2: They were the number one defense in the Big Twelve 1526 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,599 Speaker 2: coming in. So and to your point you mentioned earlier, 1527 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 2: you know Shdor's trending is a potential number one overall 1528 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 2: pick Travis Hunter. 1529 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Obviously we know what he's capable of. It was just 1530 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 3: a thought I had, just curious, and I agree with 1531 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 3: both of you. 1532 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,839 Speaker 7: I would love to see this team in a playoff 1533 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 7: for that exact reason. 1534 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 2: Two teams. Yeah, we're we're supposed to be unbiased in 1535 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 2: this profession. If Army could get that group of five bid, 1536 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 2: which right now, you know they got to get past 1537 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 2: Boise so I don't know, but well, i'll tell you what. 1538 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 2: If they beat too Lane, that's the top twenty five 1539 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,640 Speaker 2: win all. I'm saying Army in the playoff, that'd be 1540 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,600 Speaker 2: pretty you know what. 1541 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 7: I just remember when Army was playing Oklahoma not too 1542 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 7: many years alf, and it was so different than anything 1543 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 7: Oklahoma ever saw that. The time of possession was just bonkers, 1544 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 7: like forty five minutes for Army and Oklahoma struggled all 1545 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 7: day to put them away. 1546 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 2: I think I remember that night because it was pre 1547 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. It was Arnie Spanier, and he was very 1548 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: adamant that I would have to fill in for Chris 1549 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 2: Plank the next day because. 1550 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 3: They were going to lose to Army. 1551 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 7: That's what I remember about, say, speaking of time of 1552 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 7: possession did you see the Florida Gators win today against LSU. 1553 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 7: It was in yardage, not that huge a difference time 1554 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 7: of possession LSU about forty two minutes to eighteen, and 1555 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 7: yet the Gators the game at home twenty seven to sixteen. 1556 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,520 Speaker 7: Gators defense with seven sacks. LSU ran ninety two plays 1557 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 7: in this game, only forty three plays for the Florida offense. 1558 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 7: And yet Florida is five and five now LSU drops 1559 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 7: to six and four. LSU Tigers have lost three in 1560 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 7: a row. We have mentioned a few times on this 1561 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 7: show just how bad Stanford football has been in recent years, 1562 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 7: especially at home. They had lost sixteen games in a 1563 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 7: row against ranked teams, and somehow today scores seventeen points 1564 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 7: in the last seven minutes to beat nineteenth rank Louisville 1565 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 7: thirty eight to thirty five. Louisville Cardinals four and three 1566 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 7: in conference, committed thirteen penalties today. This is Stanford team 1567 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 7: that had lost six straight this year, but they won 1568 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,600 Speaker 7: the game on a fifty two yard field goal on 1569 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 7: the final play in front of attendance of eighteen thousand 1570 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 7: at home. Stanford had lost twelve straight games against any 1571 01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 7: FBS opponent going back two years until upsetting a top 1572 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 7: twenty team today. Louisville chose not to punt it away 1573 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 7: late in the game. Stanford therefore had a shorter trip 1574 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 7: to get the field goal attempt at the end, and 1575 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 7: penalties certainly helped out, but just rather an amazing victory 1576 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 7: for all of those reasons. Clemson, it looked like had 1577 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 7: blown the game late, but did get a fifty yard 1578 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 7: touchdown run by the quarterback No Less, which just over 1579 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 7: a minute togo to win at Pittsburgh twenty four to 1580 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 7: twenty Cad Klubnik, the late hero pitt had just kicked 1581 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 7: a field goal for the lead. The Clemson d with 1582 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 7: eight sacks Pittsburgh with thirteen penalties. Pitt Panthers had lost 1583 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,799 Speaker 7: three straight after a seven and zero start. We mentioned 1584 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 7: Tulane ranked twenty fifth this week, impressively winning thirty five 1585 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 7: nothing at Navy, clinching a spot in the American Conference Final. 1586 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 7: Navy as a team passing three for eleven thirteen yards 1587 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 7: one interception, the. 1588 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 4: Team like Michigan numbers. 1589 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 7: The team only had one hundred and thirteen total yards 1590 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,480 Speaker 7: at Navy today, So Navy has lost three of four elsewhere. 1591 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 7: Tonight Arizona State led at sixteenth rank Kansas State twenty 1592 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,759 Speaker 7: four to nothing late third quarter twenty four to fourteen 1593 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 7: the final. This was a battle of seven and two teams. 1594 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 7: Arizona State's now won five of six. Kansas State falls 1595 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,759 Speaker 7: to just four and three in conference, Fifteenth ranked Texas 1596 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 7: A and M thirty eight three over New Mexico State. 1597 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 7: It was Alabama ranked tenth, winning against Mercer fifty two 1598 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 7: to seven. Fourteenth ranked SMU is six and oh in 1599 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 7: conference in its first year in the ACC at beat 1600 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 7: Boston College thirty eight to twenty eight. SMU will end 1601 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 7: the season against Virginia and Cal and thirteenth rank Boise 1602 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 7: State now nine and one. Another great ground game for 1603 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 7: Ashton gent thirty two carries one hundred and fifty nine 1604 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,719 Speaker 7: yards three touchdown runs. Boise was down at San Jose 1605 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 7: State twenty one fourteen mid third quarter, but beat him 1606 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 7: forty two to twenty one. So Boise State has won 1607 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 7: eight in a row San Jose State with four turnovers 1608 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,679 Speaker 7: in this game. Next Saturday, Notre Dame Verse this Army 1609 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 7: at Yankee Stadium at a thrank Notre Dame. Today the 1610 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 7: Irish nine and one beat up Virginia thirty five fourteen 1611 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 7: UVA five turnovers. Tonight, Georgia hosted and beat Tennessee thirty 1612 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 7: one seventeen. It was tied seventeen seventeen at the half, 1613 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 7: So Georgia finishes conference play six and two. Carson Beck 1614 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 7: three total touchdowns Tonight nearly three hundred and fifty yards passing, 1615 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 7: and the Georgia d had five sacks. Number one Oregon 1616 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,599 Speaker 7: now eleven to zero after winning at Wisconsin with ten 1617 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 7: points in the fourth quarter sixteen thirteen. Badger's record five 1618 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 7: and five. Indiana gave coach Kurtzignetti a new eight year 1619 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 7: contract worth over seventy million dollars. Next Saturday, it's number 1620 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 7: two Ohio State hosting number five Indiana. That's the noon 1621 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 7: Eastern time game on Fox TV. Today, Ohio State was 1622 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 7: playing at Wrigley Field, Chicago. The game was tied seven 1623 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 7: to seven late first quarter. Buck Geys win thirty one 1624 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,759 Speaker 7: seven over Northwestern, and number three Texas led at Arkansas 1625 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 7: through thirteen to ten with ten minutes left, twenty to ten. 1626 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 7: Long horns the final Texas defense with six sacks. And yes, 1627 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 7: we've got the two late games that will update at 1628 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,839 Speaker 7: the top of the hour, but BYU has fallen behind 1629 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 7: at home against Kansas. 1630 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve Desager. 1631 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday and the 1632 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 2: Sunday Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tire 1633 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. As de Sager just said, Kansas 1634 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 2: has taken a seventeen to thirteen lead over number six BYU. 1635 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 2: We will monitor that into the Our number three as 1636 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 2: BYU of course is undefeated in a top the Big 1637 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: twelve standings. Tell you what, Jamart, we will come back 1638 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 2: when we do. We got to reset college football. Georgia Tennessee, 1639 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 2: Oregon survives, Colorado wins again, plus look ahead to a 1640 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 2: busy weekend in the NFL. 1641 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 1642 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Home. 1643 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,759 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, our three tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio. 1644 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 1645 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 3: Tyreck dot com. 1646 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,839 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there an unmatched election, fast free shipping, 1647 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:12,480 Speaker 2: free road has a protection at over ten thousand recommended installers. 1648 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 2: Tireck dot com the way tire buying should be. We're 1649 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 2: taking you up till two am Eastern time. Bernie Fratto 1650 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 2: of The Bernie Frado Show will follow us can't wait 1651 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 2: to hear what Bernie has to say about Week twelve 1652 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 2: of college football. Week eleven of the NFL coming up. 1653 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 2: We'll start our look ahead to week eleven in just 1654 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 2: a moment, but Jamart, let's kind of put a bow on. 1655 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 3: College football today. 1656 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 2: College Football Week twelve, the big one, Georgia facing Tennessee. 1657 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 2: Georgia gets the thirty one seventeen win. Jmart And I'm 1658 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 2: just gonna ask you, you know, to me, I don't 1659 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:56,480 Speaker 2: know that. The story to me is the game itself. 1660 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 2: Georgia was a double figure favorite. We weren't sure understand 1661 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 2: uh if Tennessee was gonna have their starting quarterback Nico Imamaliava. 1662 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,639 Speaker 3: He did play. 1663 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 2: But I only bring it up because with the Georgia win, 1664 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 2: we now have a two way tie atop the SEC 1665 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 2: standings with Texas and Texas A and M. They will 1666 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,719 Speaker 2: play each other in the final week of the regular season, 1667 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 2: but then we have a four way tie in second 1668 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 2: place in the SEC with Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole miss 1669 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 2: all with two losses. Tell me if I'm wrong, and 1670 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 2: tell me if you have another takeaway from this game. 1671 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 2: But to me, the biggest takeaway from this game is 1672 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Georgia was favored. Georgia does win, and I think it 1673 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 2: really puts a a you know, a cramp. I don't 1674 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 2: know what the right word is, but it really puts 1675 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: some confusion into the standings where obviously, if Tennessee had 1676 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 2: pulled off the upset, they would essentially be going to 1677 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 2: the SEC championship game, and I think we'd have a 1678 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 2: lot more clarity in the conference championship picture. 1679 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mess, and it's very, very cloudy and real. 1680 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: Quick though, is there another takeaway besides like, is there 1681 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 2: anything that you learned about Georgia or Tennessee or is 1682 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 2: it just about the standings? 1683 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 4: Well, the only thing I would say about the game 1684 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 4: is I was impressed with Carson Beck in the second, third, 1685 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 4: and fourth quarter. And I honestly have been pretty tough 1686 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,639 Speaker 4: on him this year, but I thought he equated himself well, 1687 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 4: especially in the second half. A lot of it was 1688 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:22,759 Speaker 4: with his legs. He's still dealing with receivers that don't 1689 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 4: like catching the football, the drops and just the way 1690 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 4: that they are putting themselves in position to have PBUs 1691 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 4: from the defense. It's got to stop. Like I understand 1692 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 4: that Beck hasn't played particularly well this year, but he's 1693 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 4: getting no help from his receiving corps, and I know 1694 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 4: they've dealt with some injuries and they're not at full 1695 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 4: strengthen all this, but I felt like tonight was the 1696 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,599 Speaker 4: night where Beck had to go out on the offensive 1697 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,599 Speaker 4: side and kind of win the game. Like he had 1698 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 4: to make the plays when they were there, and more 1699 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,639 Speaker 4: often than not he was able to do that. They 1700 01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 4: were able to get after Nico defensively keep him from 1701 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 4: really getting into any kind of a comfort zone, and 1702 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 4: outside of Samson, there wasn't much there offensively. But I 1703 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 4: thought it was a good night for Carson Beck. It 1704 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 4: was a game that obviously Georgia had to have, but 1705 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 4: this was a performance from Beck that I kind of 1706 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 4: had not seen all year where I needed to see 1707 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 4: him do something that made me think, all right, when 1708 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 4: the going gets tough, this guy can He does have 1709 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 4: the capability to pull this off. And that's kind of 1710 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 4: what happened, because they easily could have lost. This game 1711 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 4: didn't start out well for them at all. Tennessee had 1712 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,719 Speaker 4: the momentum in the first quarter. I didn't like George's 1713 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 4: offense on their first series, going deep a couple of 1714 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,599 Speaker 4: times to open up to try and like dog out 1715 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 4: Tennessee's secondary because you had a drop situation, then you 1716 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 4: had an overthrow, and then you've got Beck wondering, you 1717 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 4: know what's going to happen, and then they end up 1718 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 4: falling behind. And I didn't like it for Georgia at 1719 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 4: that point. I said, Man, Georgia looks terrible, but they 1720 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 4: answered the bell. And I think that Beck deserves a 1721 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,520 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the credit for that, because 1722 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 4: he has had moments this year where you wouldn't have 1723 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 4: expected the performance you got from him in the second half. 1724 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 2: Particularly get back to Georgia Tennessee in just a second 1725 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 2: couple Finals number eighteen, Washington State has lost it. New 1726 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 2: Mexico kind of joked about Washington State as a at 1727 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,760 Speaker 2: large contender in the playoff. I think it was a 1728 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 2: little tongue in cheek, but that is officially over with 1729 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,400 Speaker 2: their second loss. Also BYU Man they just they find 1730 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 2: ways to make plays at the most important times and 1731 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 2: interception against Kansas they trail seventeen thirteen in the fourth quarter. 1732 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 3: This is what BYU has done all year. 1733 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 2: They have coming into the game twenty one force turnovers 1734 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 2: that is tied for eighth most in all of college football. 1735 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Thirteen interceptions coming into today, which is also tied in 1736 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 2: the top fifteen in college football. So BYU, we will 1737 01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 2: see if they can capitalize. They trail by four with 1738 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:00,840 Speaker 2: seven minutes to go. 1739 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 3: This team just. 1740 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,840 Speaker 4: Will not quit. 1741 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 2: BYU, by the way, is a top the Big Twelve standings. 1742 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 2: That's why this game is significant. They are nine to 1743 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 2: zero coming into tonight. They have Arizona State next week 1744 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 2: and close with Houston. Obviously, they only need to win 1745 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 2: two of the next three to guarantee a spot in 1746 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve championship game. They are alone in the 1747 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Big Twelve standings, Colorado one game behind them. As far 1748 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 2: as the Tennessee Georgia game, Jamrt, I think I tend 1749 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 2: to agree with you. First of all, you're right, I 1750 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 2: have I myself, like you have been critical of Carson Beck. 1751 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 2: He deserves credit tonight because, first of all, as you said, 1752 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 2: there was a couple of times that his receivers did 1753 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 2: not help him out. But best game of his season. 1754 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 2: I think you could maybe argue three hundred and forty 1755 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 2: seven yards two touchdowns, no interceptions. Why that's worth noting 1756 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 2: he has been a turnover machine. Had won last week 1757 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 2: against Ole miss three, the week before against Florida. Even 1758 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 2: in the win against Texas he had three turnover So 1759 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 2: he takes care of business. And the only thing I'd 1760 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 2: really say, it does set up this very interesting quagmire 1761 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,759 Speaker 2: in the middle of the SEC standings. As I mentioned Texas, Texas, 1762 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 2: A and M are both five. 1763 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,799 Speaker 3: And one in the league. 1764 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,960 Speaker 2: A and M plays at Auburn next week. Texas plays 1765 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Kentucky at home. You'd assume both those teams get wins. 1766 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,760 Speaker 2: What that would mean then is that their game to 1767 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,120 Speaker 2: end the regular season will put one team in the 1768 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:30,000 Speaker 2: SEC championship game. But these these six, these teams with 1769 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 2: two losses, it's just gonna be so interesting j Mart 1770 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 2: that we you know, we don't have to figure it 1771 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 2: all out just yet. But Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama will miss 1772 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 2: all it's at all with two losses in league play. 1773 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 2: A couple of them still have some league games left. 1774 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 2: Georgia's SEC schedule is actually complete, But it just sets 1775 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 2: up something fascinating because you know, all the head to heads, 1776 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Georgia has two losses but they really don't 1777 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 2: have a bad loss. The losses were at Alabama at 1778 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 2: Ole Miss Ole Miss has the worst losses out of 1779 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 2: all them. Can tuck Ucky on the road or Kentucky 1780 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 2: at home is by far the worst loss out of 1781 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: all those teams. Bama obviously has at Vandy, and has 1782 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,760 Speaker 2: at Fandy and at Tennessee. Tennessee has at Arkansas and 1783 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 2: Georgia at home. So I don't know how it's all 1784 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 2: going to play out. I will say this j Mart. 1785 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 2: At this point for the playoff, remember twelve teams, five 1786 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,760 Speaker 2: at large bids, there's seven or five automatic bids, which 1787 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 2: leads leave seven at large bids. I think you have 1788 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,679 Speaker 2: to assume at this point three of them are going 1789 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. With Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, 1790 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,679 Speaker 2: and Indiana, three of those four will get in. Obviously 1791 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 2: one would be the conference champ. I think you got 1792 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 2: a factor in Notre Dame getting a bid as well, 1793 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 2: So that would leave three for the SEC and it 1794 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 2: would leave one of those teams out. 1795 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,839 Speaker 3: And again there's still games to be played. 1796 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 2: But I do think there is going to be somebody 1797 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 2: that feels like even if they went out, that maybe 1798 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 2: they got screwed out of the playoff spot. 1799 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I don't know that there's 1800 01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 4: any way around it. And all of them had the 1801 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 4: opportunity not to put themselves in this position and did 1802 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 4: have some losses. So there's ultimately only going to be 1803 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,800 Speaker 4: an argument to a certain degree. But I was even 1804 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 4: going to ask you the most meaningless hypothetical or the 1805 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 4: most meaningless question to ask right now, which is just 1806 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 4: your gut feeling, how would you rank those teams? I 1807 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 4: don't mean how that you think they will be ranked, 1808 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,599 Speaker 4: but how would you rank them in terms. 1809 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 5: Of who you like best right now? 1810 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 4: Because I would argue Ole Miss might be the one 1811 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,679 Speaker 4: that I would look at at the top right now 1812 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 4: at the SEC based on their roster and based on 1813 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 4: the way they're playing. What wasn't particularly impressed with Texas 1814 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,720 Speaker 4: against Arkansas. Now, that's a robbery game, I get it, 1815 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 4: But there's just a couple of chinks in that armor 1816 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 4: that I've seen in the last couple of games, even 1817 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 4: though there's still my pick to win at all and 1818 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,760 Speaker 4: we're at the beginning of the season right now, Ole 1819 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,439 Speaker 4: Miss is the team that feels like they're the hottest 1820 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 4: team and they're also the one that's most likely to 1821 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 4: be left out at the end. 1822 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,719 Speaker 2: So I think Ole Miss just because of the nature 1823 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 2: of their losses. You know, you never want to say 1824 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 2: a loss at LSU is a bad loss, especially in overtime, 1825 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 2: especially a game that you largely controlled, but that is 1826 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 2: going to go down as one of the worst losses 1827 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 2: all these teams have. And then the worst loss by 1828 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 2: far will be Kentucky. And it just goes back to 1829 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 2: what I said in hour one is I think there 1830 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 2: was this belief by all of us, and I include myself, 1831 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,160 Speaker 2: is that hey, nobody's really gonna have an argument if 1832 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 2: you get left out of a twelve team playoff that 1833 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 2: you deserve to be there. And I think Old Miss. 1834 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if deserve is the right word, but 1835 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 2: if you can beat Georgia the way they beat Georgia, 1836 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 2: you could play with anybody. I'll add this too, j 1837 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 2: Mart And I know you said and I agree with 1838 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,000 Speaker 2: you that you know all these hypotheticals are relatively silly. 1839 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,840 Speaker 2: At this point, there's still two weeks left to be played, 1840 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 2: plus the conference championship games. The one that's kind of 1841 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,240 Speaker 2: intriguing if Texas were to somehow lose to A and M. 1842 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 2: Texas basically has no resume, and they, to me probably 1843 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 2: looked the best out of all these teams. I know 1844 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,519 Speaker 2: they they got smoked by Georgia, but they've they've basically 1845 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 2: taken care of everybody else. But we mentioned it earlier 1846 01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,760 Speaker 2: in the show. You know, Texas has zero wins over 1847 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,640 Speaker 2: teams in this top twenty five. If they were to 1848 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 2: lose to Texas, A and M, I would almost certainly 1849 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,559 Speaker 2: assume that that means they're not playing in. 1850 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 3: The SEC Championship game. 1851 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,639 Speaker 2: They would kind of fit that old Miss build of 1852 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 2: a team that we think is really really really good 1853 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 2: but wouldn't have a resume to get in. So I 1854 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 2: know that's kind of a weird hypothetical to even throw 1855 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 2: out there, but I think it's an important one because 1856 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 2: Texas really kind of needs to win out. I think 1857 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 2: they kind of need to win out get to the 1858 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,640 Speaker 2: SEC Championship Game at the very least to feel good 1859 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 2: about their positioning, even though you could argue they've looked 1860 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,040 Speaker 2: from beginning to end like the best team this season. 1861 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and unfortunately what you do on the field does 1862 01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 4: matter accumulative. Now, we actually texted before the show, and 1863 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 4: you made a good point, and I agree that definitely, 1864 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 4: there are some of these games that you're watching and 1865 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,200 Speaker 4: you recognize as regular season doesn't mean quite as much 1866 01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 4: as it once did, and then we're arguing for these 1867 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 4: losses meeting But like, for example, Oregon, it looked like 1868 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 4: there for a time they might actually find a way 1869 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,479 Speaker 4: to not beat Wisconsin in the fourth quarter, that it 1870 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,120 Speaker 4: was just an ugly night and it was just this 1871 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,679 Speaker 4: might be the flup night where they just don't have it. Ultimately, 1872 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,080 Speaker 4: they win the game, so it doesn't end up being 1873 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 4: something you have to talk about. But as I'm watching it, 1874 01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,680 Speaker 4: not an ounce of me thought Oregon's not gonna be 1875 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 4: in a college football playoff if they lose this game, 1876 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 4: And usually that would not be the feeling there. That 1877 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,720 Speaker 4: would have a much different sense. And we've had that 1878 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,679 Speaker 4: a couple times this year Alabama and Vanderbilt for example, 1879 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 4: and things like that, where there are losses that are 1880 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 4: now they're just more exciting for the team that wins 1881 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 4: the team that gets the upset, than they are devastating 1882 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,799 Speaker 4: for the team that loses. And I think that is 1883 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,960 Speaker 4: a massive sea change that we have already seen, and 1884 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 4: it can't possibly be otherwise, meaning this is the way 1885 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 4: it's going to be, this is the new normal, this 1886 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,840 Speaker 4: is not the aberration when these things happen. I just 1887 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 4: think there's going to be a different feeling as we're 1888 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,240 Speaker 4: watching some of these games. 1889 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. I'll also say this, 1890 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,400 Speaker 2: and this is just a bigger picture. Just thought that 1891 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 2: I have is one. I don't know that I love it, 1892 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,720 Speaker 2: but I will be curious, you know, does the committee 1893 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,719 Speaker 2: factor in not just win loss record, but strength to schedule? 1894 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,320 Speaker 2: And I would bring it up because you're a college 1895 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,240 Speaker 2: football fan like I am j Mart And unfortunately, when 1896 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,559 Speaker 2: when these rankings come out every Tuesday, it just turns 1897 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,680 Speaker 2: into an indictment of well, you know, my team's not 1898 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 2: ranked here, and but that team ahead of me stinks. 1899 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 2: And I bring it up because, like, again, you look 1900 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 2: at somebody like Penn State or Indiana is Indiana obviously, 1901 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 2: look they're undefeated, but they play Ohio State next week. 1902 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,679 Speaker 2: I don't think most people expect Indiana to win, even 1903 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 2: if they're in the midst of an incredible season. But again, 1904 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 2: you look at their resumes and I'll just be curious 1905 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,320 Speaker 2: because we don't have the answer, what how does the 1906 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 2: committee value those teams? Do they just value the win 1907 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 2: loss record in the leagues that they're in. Do they 1908 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 2: value a team like say Georgia that has two losses 1909 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 2: but they're both really good losses. We don't have the 1910 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,720 Speaker 2: answers yet, we won't for another couple of weeks, but 1911 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,759 Speaker 2: to me, that that kind of becomes an interesting scenario 1912 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 2: as well. Is there any scenario where teams are just 1913 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 2: hurt by how the schedule breaks, you know, either went 1914 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 2: in their favor or didn't. And this was another thing 1915 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 2: we're texting prior to the show, is the way that 1916 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 2: schedules are so imbalanced right now in college football, and 1917 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 2: that there's really no way to solve it with these huge, 1918 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 2: you know, sixteen and eighteen team leagues. Because you have 1919 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 2: a team like Indiana where you know, on the schedule 1920 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 2: they have the raining national champ Michigan, the reigning national 1921 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,479 Speaker 2: runner up Washington. And you told us, you know, two 1922 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,439 Speaker 2: three months ago, even if we knew Michigan and Washington 1923 01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,240 Speaker 2: were to take a step back, that those losses would 1924 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,120 Speaker 2: mean nothing on Indiana's resume. 1925 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:57,719 Speaker 3: It's just kind of crazy to think about. 1926 01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,560 Speaker 2: And so I just bring it up because I'm just 1927 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 2: so fascinated to see, not only this year, but going forward, 1928 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 2: how the committee factors in scheduling imbalanced schedules, because some 1929 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,720 Speaker 2: of this is just out of teams controls based on 1930 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 2: how the schedules break in these leagues. 1931 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're gonna see circumstances probably where two 1932 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:20,400 Speaker 4: lost teams get in over one loss teams that based 1933 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 4: on things like that, and hopefully the human side of 1934 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 4: it will be able to balance that a bit. We 1935 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,639 Speaker 4: haven't even talked about this yet, but you know, there's 1936 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 4: the huge Ohio State Indiana game coming up a week 1937 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 4: from today. 1938 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,200 Speaker 5: Do you think Indiana is ready for this? 1939 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 3: I think they're ready. I just don't know if they're 1940 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 3: good enough. 1941 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,400 Speaker 4: Well, that's I mean, I guess that's more of the question. Yes, 1942 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 4: I don't think they're like overwhelmed by it. But do 1943 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 4: you think as a program they are ready to actually 1944 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 4: go in and win that football game? 1945 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,600 Speaker 3: I don't. Oh, and it's not because oh, there's some 1946 01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 3: big fluke. 1947 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 2: But what I will say is, as rate as the 1948 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,160 Speaker 2: early part of the schedule was, we all watched the 1949 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 2: Michigan game last week and they basically could not move 1950 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 2: the ball against Michigan, and Michigan obviously is the best 1951 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,799 Speaker 2: defense that they played all season long, and Michigan, obviously, 1952 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,719 Speaker 2: even as bad as the offense is, Michigan's defensive guys, 1953 01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 2: I would say probably most mimic what they'll see from 1954 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 2: Ohio State. And you go back to Indiana's win against Michigan, 1955 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,519 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty six yards of total offense, forty 1956 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,320 Speaker 2: yards rushing, one point four yards per carry. 1957 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 3: It's just tough for me to see them. 1958 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,720 Speaker 2: And by the way, maybe Michigan, Michigan statistically was the 1959 01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 2: outlier because they've moved the ball on everybody this year, 1960 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 2: so maybe it was just a fluky, weird thing. But 1961 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 2: the counter to that is Michigan obviously has the best 1962 01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 2: defensive personnel that they've seen all year, and Ohio State 1963 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 2: is pretty equivalent to that. And if you struggled to 1964 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 2: move the ball against Michigan, I failed to see all 1965 01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 2: of a sudden turning back into a team that can 1966 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,680 Speaker 2: score thirty forty to fifty against Ohio State next week. 1967 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,759 Speaker 2: So that's that's what would concern me more than anything. 1968 01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:08,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I mean I think we're about on the 1969 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:09,320 Speaker 5: same page. 1970 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,920 Speaker 4: I think it's possible, but it would be hard to 1971 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 4: pick that to happen because I think that they would 1972 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 4: have to Yes, they'd certainly have to exceed what they 1973 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,519 Speaker 4: did against Michigan, because one would think Ohio State is 1974 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 4: going to be able to move the ball on them 1975 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,799 Speaker 4: and actually put some points on the board, whereas Michigan 1976 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,679 Speaker 4: really wasn't able to do that in a distinguished fashion. 1977 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 2: All I think, I'll say, you know, Ohio State is 1978 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,680 Speaker 2: just always a total wildcard and what you're gonna get 1979 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,640 Speaker 2: from Remember, they easily could have lost to Nebraska a 1980 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 2: few weeks ago. You know today even on Saturday against 1981 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 2: Northwestern they trailed seven to nothing midway through the second 1982 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,559 Speaker 2: quarter and then really kind of hit their stride. 1983 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 3: But it'll be a fun game. 1984 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,680 Speaker 2: I know we obviously won't have a chance to preview it, 1985 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,920 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think that to me, it's hard to 1986 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 2: see them. It's hard to see them having success just 1987 01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 2: because again, they struggled so much against Michigan. Fox Sports 1988 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,800 Speaker 2: Radio errators Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire Rack 1989 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 2: dot Com Studios, Indiana. Ohio State is the big game 1990 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 2: next Saturday, But we gotta talk about this coming Sunday 1991 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 2: because we got Bill's Chiefs, we got Raven. 1992 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,720 Speaker 3: Steelers, and we're gonna break the ball down. 1993 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 4: Next. 1994 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,600 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. 1995 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 1996 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 2: tire Rack dot Com studios. 1997 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 3: Get to the NFL in just one half sec. 1998 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:31,120 Speaker 2: We do have a final in the UFC, John Jones 1999 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 2: a knockout of Steep A. Miochic. John Jones retains the 2000 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 2: UFC Heavyweight Championship belt. Jmart I, don't you know anything 2001 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,120 Speaker 2: about the UFC. I don't know if you have anything 2002 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,799 Speaker 2: to add or we could just get to the NFL. 2003 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 2: But John Jones does win again, beating Steve A. Miochic, 2004 01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,840 Speaker 2: by the way, caught him in the ribs and just 2005 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,280 Speaker 2: went down like a ton of bricks. 2006 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Oh look at you spinning back. I mean I 2007 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,519 Speaker 4: used to beat more. It's more kind of into it 2008 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 4: than maybe I am now. Although John Jones always has 2009 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,920 Speaker 4: my attention and Steve Ay's been really interesting for years. 2010 01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,280 Speaker 4: I didn't buy the pay per view, so I didn't 2011 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,400 Speaker 4: get to see the fight itself, but I was kind 2012 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,920 Speaker 4: of keeping tabs through articles and things like that, so 2013 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 4: I saw what happened. Not surprised that this is a result. 2014 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 4: I mean, dude's the greatest of all time. He's his 2015 01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 4: own worst enemy, Like outside the Hocktegon and the way 2016 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 4: that he's behaved and the problems that he's had and 2017 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. I shuddered to think what 2018 01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,720 Speaker 4: he could have done if he hadn't had to take 2019 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:37,519 Speaker 4: all the time off various times for you know, some 2020 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 4: of the things that have happened in his life. But 2021 01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,560 Speaker 4: just in terms of what he can do, he's a unicorn. 2022 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,759 Speaker 4: Like it's absolutely ridiculous. And I look forward to hopefully 2023 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,000 Speaker 4: seeing like a highlight of the actual finish of the fight, 2024 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 4: because I just kind of had to see it through 2025 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,840 Speaker 4: you know, text and doesn't really doesn't really hit quite 2026 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,559 Speaker 4: the same, no pun intended. 2027 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,519 Speaker 3: No, it's okay. So John Jones does get the win. 2028 01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,879 Speaker 2: By the way, A very interesting result in college football 2029 01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 2: right now. Kansas up seventeen thirteen against BYU b YU 2030 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 2: in the red zone, but it is fourth down. They 2031 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,799 Speaker 2: did just get pushed back because of a false start. 2032 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,280 Speaker 2: Obviously BYU needs a touchdown to take the lead. They 2033 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 2: do have all three timeouts if they. 2034 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:21,840 Speaker 3: Do not convert. 2035 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh they've only got two Yeah, you're right, my eyes 2036 01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:29,400 Speaker 2: are going really bad. Yeah, they have two timeouts, so 2037 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 2: it is fourth and eleven. They have not converted it. 2038 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,599 Speaker 2: So unless unless my math is off here jmr. Two 2039 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,720 Speaker 2: timeouts left, I don't think they're gonna be able to 2040 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:46,640 Speaker 2: stop the clock enough to get to win. So it 2041 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,599 Speaker 2: looks like Kansas may pull off, by the way, a 2042 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 2: second straight upset for Kansas. Remember last week they beat 2043 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,880 Speaker 2: Iowa State, which knocked them out of the Big twelve. Well, 2044 01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 2: knock them out of the top two in the Big twelve. 2045 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 2: Kansas up seventeen thirteen, forty six seconds to go. They 2046 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,280 Speaker 2: will get the ball back and I believe they can 2047 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,719 Speaker 2: run out the clock to give BYU their first loss 2048 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 2: of the season. 2049 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,559 Speaker 4: That's impressive. I mean, it hadn't been a great year 2050 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 4: for them, but those are those two impressive wins. And 2051 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,679 Speaker 4: for BYU, they had the ball twice in the last 2052 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 4: eight minutes and they weren't able to get in the 2053 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 4: end zone. You know, they had to play that you 2054 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 4: referred to before the break where just kind of went 2055 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 4: their way and they were able to actually you know, 2056 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 4: get an interception with about eight minutes left, couldn't do anything, 2057 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 4: and then you're it's on your field and you've got 2058 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,800 Speaker 4: it in the red zone and you're unable to get 2059 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 4: in there. So this is going to shake things up 2060 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:44,719 Speaker 4: pretty pretty big because I don't think anybody thought BYU 2061 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:46,800 Speaker 4: was the sixth best team in the country, at least 2062 01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,559 Speaker 4: I didn't. But I'll be curious to see where they 2063 01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 4: land after this. 2064 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah all I'll say really quickly because I do want 2065 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 2: to get some of the NFL stuff. But you know, 2066 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 2: I think it basically, and I don't think there was 2067 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 2: a strong argument, but I think this eliminates a second 2068 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 2: team from the Big Twelve. You know, I think you 2069 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,599 Speaker 2: could have made the argument if BYU is undefeated going 2070 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 2: into the Big Twelve championship game and they lost, could 2071 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 2: they get in at large? They do have a head 2072 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 2: to head win over SMU, which is trending to potentially 2073 01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,720 Speaker 2: be the ACC champ, but I think this loss will 2074 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 2: seal it. I think the interesting note for me from 2075 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 2: the Kansas perspective, you said they're struggling three and six 2076 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 2: coming into this one. Five of those losses were by 2077 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 2: a touchdown or less. What's very interesting again, they knocked 2078 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 2: Iowa State out of the number two spot. Last week, 2079 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:38,240 Speaker 2: they knocked BYU into a first place tie with Colorado. 2080 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:42,120 Speaker 2: Kansas hosts Colorado next week, so you know it will 2081 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 2: not be easy for Colorado to maintain their standing in 2082 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,360 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve standings. Obviously, they would need to beat 2083 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:53,679 Speaker 2: Kansas to stay tied for first, assuming again that Kansas 2084 01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,200 Speaker 2: can take a couple knees and get out of here 2085 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 2: with victory. I'll tell you what, why don't we for simplicities, 2086 01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,439 Speaker 2: as Kansas just took the most awkward knee ever Jalen 2087 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,080 Speaker 2: Daniels I think was trying to wait as long as 2088 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 2: he could before he took a knee, almost took a safety. 2089 01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 2: But tell you what, why don't we Let's get it 2090 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 2: over to the news desk so we can do a 2091 01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,479 Speaker 2: little bit more on the NFL here. We haven't even 2092 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,679 Speaker 2: previewed the two big games to say, go ahead, my friend. 2093 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,000 Speaker 7: So we got thirty nine seconds left BYU trailing at 2094 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 7: home seventeen thirteen to the Kansas Jayhawks, and after Colorado's 2095 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,519 Speaker 7: home win against Utah today, Colorado is still in the 2096 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,679 Speaker 7: top two in the Big Twelve conference number one Oregans 2097 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,840 Speaker 7: eleven and zero after winning sixteen thirteen at Wisconsin tonight 2098 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 7: with ten points in the fourth quarter. Wins in the 2099 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 7: top ten for Ohio State, in Texas for Penn State, 2100 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 7: Notre Dame, and Alabama. Georgia beat Tennessee thirty one seventeen, 2101 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,080 Speaker 7: so Georgia finishes six and two in conference. Carson Beck 2102 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,880 Speaker 7: three total touchdowns, thirteenth ranked Boise State a comeback winner 2103 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,439 Speaker 7: at San Jose State forty two to twenty one. Ashton 2104 01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 7: genty with three touchdown runs. In fact, Espnstad had him 2105 01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:00,280 Speaker 7: rushing in ten straight games now this season, rushing at 2106 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 7: least one hundred and twenty five yards each time. That 2107 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,160 Speaker 7: hasn't happened in Division one football in almost thirty years 2108 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:10,200 Speaker 7: since Troy Davis. It was Kansas State hosting Arizona State tonight, 2109 01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 7: battle of seven and two teams. Some Devils led twenty 2110 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,599 Speaker 7: four to nothing late third quarter and beat k State 2111 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 7: twenty four to fourteen. New Mexico in a late game 2112 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,719 Speaker 7: tonight beat eighteenth rank Washington State thirty eight to thirty five. 2113 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 7: Wazoo had led by two touchdowns at the half, but 2114 01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,519 Speaker 7: gave up the game winning touchdown with under thirty seconds left. 2115 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,840 Speaker 7: Stanford kicked a fifty two yard field goal on the 2116 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,599 Speaker 7: final play to win over nineteenth ranked Louisville thirty eight 2117 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 7: thirty five wins for Clemson South Carolina and the Florida Gators, 2118 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,520 Speaker 7: who defeated number twenty two LSU twenty seven to sixteen. 2119 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 7: The Kansas Jayhawks are on the field celebrating as the 2120 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 7: final seconds tick off at six rank BYU. The Cougars, 2121 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 7: who were nine to zero undefeated no more. The final 2122 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,519 Speaker 7: score will beat Kansas seventeen to thirteen in provo. The 2123 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 7: final playoff bracket will be announced in less than a 2124 01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,719 Speaker 7: month December. The eighth Houston and Texans wide receiver Nico 2125 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 7: Collins will play Monday night at Dallas. He's off the 2126 01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,920 Speaker 7: injury report. Cowboys wide receiver Ced Lamb is questionable with 2127 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,519 Speaker 7: a bad back, but his coach is not overly concerned. 2128 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,599 Speaker 7: The forty nine Ers placed punter Mitch Wistnowski on injured 2129 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 7: reserve and signed punter Pat O'Donnell from their practice squad. 2130 01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,400 Speaker 7: Patriots defensive tackle Christian Barmore will make his season debut 2131 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,200 Speaker 7: tomorrow against the Rams. He was treated for blood clots 2132 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 7: during training camp. Ravens defensive back Marlin Humphrey was fined 2133 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,920 Speaker 7: about thirty four thousand dollars for two fouls last game. 2134 01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,800 Speaker 7: A reminder, Bills tight end Dalton Kincaid is out this 2135 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 7: weekend for the big game against the Chiefs. Chiefs kicker 2136 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,879 Speaker 7: Harrison Bucker had his left knee surgery this week. Lions 2137 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 7: tight end Sam Laporta out this weekend with a shoulder injury, 2138 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,679 Speaker 7: but Bengals wide out T Higgins to do to return 2139 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,040 Speaker 7: to play Sunday night at the Chargers. He's missed three 2140 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 7: weeks with. 2141 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:48,719 Speaker 4: A quad injury. 2142 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 7: In the NBA's late game at Sacramento, forty nine points 2143 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,759 Speaker 7: for Darren Fox in an narrow win against Utah. Fox 2144 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,839 Speaker 7: last night scored sixty victories for Charlotte and Dallas. Boston 2145 01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 7: won an overtime against Ronto. Raptors have lost seven straight. 2146 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,840 Speaker 7: Lakers won their fifth in a row, Gota win at 2147 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,320 Speaker 7: New Orleans one oh four ninety nine, and another odd score. 2148 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,559 Speaker 7: Men's college basketball Seaton Hall fifty four to twenty eight 2149 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,519 Speaker 7: winners against Wagner. That's right, twenty eight points in a 2150 01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,880 Speaker 7: forty minute game. Yes, John Jones beat step A Mioch. 2151 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,760 Speaker 7: In fact, this was UFC three oh nine and it's 2152 01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,680 Speaker 7: in New York. This was not in Vegas, so you 2153 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 7: can imagine the time of I was gonna say time 2154 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 7: of day, time of night when this one finally got 2155 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,639 Speaker 7: started at Madison Square Garden but listed as a late 2156 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:35,920 Speaker 7: third round TKO and former Olympic gymnastics coach Bella Corolli 2157 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,759 Speaker 7: passed away at the age of eighty two. He defected 2158 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 7: to the US in nineteen eighty one. 2159 01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,799 Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sager. 2160 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,360 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday eritors Jason 2161 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,479 Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tyrech dot Com studios. It 2162 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,960 Speaker 2: is official, as Segre said, b YU falls to Kansas 2163 01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 2: BYU Colorado and now tied to top the Big twelve standings. 2164 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:05,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Indiana, Oregon Army, your three remaining undefeated 2165 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 2: teams in college football. Nice transition because there's only one 2166 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:10,759 Speaker 2: undefeated team left in the NFL. 2167 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 4: J mart Let's sell, don't don't remind me, well, what 2168 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 4: are you saying, my Broncos. The field goal, Yeah, that 2169 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 4: was painful. And the sad thing is before we before 2170 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 4: the kick, I said, watching block it. I was just 2171 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,000 Speaker 4: sitting there this watching Blockett. And then they did not 2172 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 4: just stared at the screen like this is what the 2173 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,760 Speaker 4: Chiefs do. This is what good teams do. They find 2174 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,519 Speaker 4: ways to do stuff like that like that. It was 2175 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 4: just anyway, they're still undefeated. 2176 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,439 Speaker 2: They are undefeated, and let's dive into the Sunday game. 2177 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. J Mart. You know, 2178 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,759 Speaker 2: I hate to do it, but they're they're obviously playing 2179 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,719 Speaker 2: the Bills. The Bills have had great regular season success 2180 01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,439 Speaker 2: against Kansas City, not so much in the playoffs, as 2181 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,479 Speaker 2: we all knowcluding last year losing in the divisional round 2182 01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:06,639 Speaker 2: at home. I hate being the guy because I hate 2183 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 2: whenever we're like, oh well, nothing matters till the postseason. 2184 01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 2: We get that a lot in the NBA, you know, oh, 2185 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's about rings and it's about But I 2186 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,840 Speaker 2: do feel like with the Bills and the Chiefs specifically, 2187 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 2: I do kind of feel like like they the Chiefs. 2188 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,360 Speaker 2: The Bills could win and knock the Chiefs out from 2189 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,600 Speaker 2: being undefeated. It doesn't move the needle for me, not 2190 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,679 Speaker 2: because I'm not excited for Bills fans and they don't 2191 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,599 Speaker 2: deserve to celebrate. 2192 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,120 Speaker 3: But we've seen the Bills on the biggest stages against 2193 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:32,639 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. 2194 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,680 Speaker 2: They have not had success, and until they have it, 2195 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,920 Speaker 2: it's hard for me to get excited for any individual win. 2196 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 4: Look, I'll be glued to the set to watch the game, 2197 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,120 Speaker 4: can't wait to watch the game. I've said before, I 2198 01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,280 Speaker 4: don't care what the Bills do until the playoffs because 2199 01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,960 Speaker 4: I already know how good they are. I know what 2200 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,240 Speaker 4: they're capable of doing. But you butter your bread in 2201 01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,000 Speaker 4: the playoffs and until that changes. It's the same way 2202 01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 4: with Baltimore with me now too. Like anything Baltimore and 2203 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 4: Buffalo do in the regular season, I'm not saying it's 2204 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 4: not impressive. I'm saying it's not going to change anything 2205 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,800 Speaker 4: for me, Like I need to see you do this 2206 01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,000 Speaker 4: when if you lose, you don't play again that season, 2207 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,000 Speaker 4: and to this point that hasn't happened. And when it 2208 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:16,479 Speaker 4: comes to playing against Kansas City, it's a different animal. 2209 01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,639 Speaker 4: It's super sayan Mahomes that you have to deal with. 2210 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,920 Speaker 4: It's a completely different storyline than when you meet them 2211 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 4: in week you know, eleven of the regular season. 2212 01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you actually expect on the field 2213 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 2: on Sunday? Obviously Chiefs offense is not operating at the 2214 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 2: highest level Buffalo Bills, you know they're playing much better football, 2215 01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:39,639 Speaker 2: not not much better football, but they're just playing really 2216 01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,639 Speaker 2: good football across the board. They have won five straight 2217 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 2: since those back to back losses to the Ravens and 2218 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,600 Speaker 2: the Texans, and took care of the Colts obviously in 2219 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 2: pretty easy fashion last week. What do you actually expect 2220 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:50,400 Speaker 2: when we see them on the field. 2221 01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:52,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that of the two, the Bills 2222 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,600 Speaker 4: are playing better. But for some reason, I like the 2223 01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,160 Speaker 4: Chiefs on the road. I don't really have a great 2224 01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 4: reason for it other than I do like Holmes and Hopkins, 2225 01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,800 Speaker 4: and I like how Kelsey has a little bit more 2226 01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,920 Speaker 4: room to operate because of what they're doing with Hopkins. 2227 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 4: They're also they've also been pretty solid running the football. 2228 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 4: I just for some reason, you can get yourself too 2229 01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 4: hyped for a game, and I could see the Bills 2230 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,880 Speaker 4: kind of coming in here a little bit overhyped and 2231 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:20,920 Speaker 4: the Chiefs kind of getting them because this should be 2232 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,720 Speaker 4: a game that Buffalo does win because it's in the 2233 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,840 Speaker 4: regular season. But I mean, if you look at it, 2234 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,760 Speaker 4: it's only two they're only a two point favorite, and 2235 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 4: they're at home. So I feel okay being on this 2236 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,200 Speaker 4: road limb and thinking that Kansas City can go in 2237 01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:35,240 Speaker 4: there and beat them. 2238 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 2: That game, of course at four twenty five Eastern time. 2239 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,240 Speaker 3: Let's get to the other big one. 2240 01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 5: You didn't pick it. 2241 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's I'll take the Chiefs, Okay, I don't know. 2242 01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,799 Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, they they've won so many 2243 01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:54,559 Speaker 2: weird games, so many different ways, and but I do 2244 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,639 Speaker 2: think and I and I hate to be that guy, 2245 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,320 Speaker 2: like I just it's hard for me to feel like 2246 01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,640 Speaker 2: they're so like the Bills have won three straight in 2247 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,000 Speaker 2: the regular season against the Kansas City Chiefs. It's not 2248 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,280 Speaker 2: like they haven't had regular season success. But you know 2249 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,280 Speaker 2: that organization is going to be defined by if and 2250 01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 2: when or eventually hopefully when they get past Kansas City 2251 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. And so it's hard for me to 2252 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,080 Speaker 2: get two weeks. It's not that I'm not excited for 2253 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,559 Speaker 2: the game. It would just be hard for me, if 2254 01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 2: you and I were hosting Sunday Night and plankt Arnie Spot, 2255 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 2: for me to say anything definitive about the Bills if 2256 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:32,160 Speaker 2: they do get the victory, So speaking a definitive Raven Steelers, 2257 01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,040 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, your mid mid season League MVP. 2258 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,240 Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding, but it's been better than he 2259 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,200 Speaker 4: had any right to be. 2260 01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,680 Speaker 2: Three touchdowns last week, she Steelers three and zero with 2261 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,040 Speaker 2: him as a starter, seven and two overall. You know, 2262 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 2: this stat kind of blew my mind. Jamart Lamar Jackson 2263 01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:54,479 Speaker 2: just one career win against the Steelers. Now, admittedly, I 2264 01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,720 Speaker 2: think he's been hurt in a couple of the matchups, 2265 01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,240 Speaker 2: you know, late season when he's been banged up, But 2266 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:00,320 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in. 2267 01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:05,040 Speaker 3: With more league MVPs than victories over the Pittsburgh Steelers. 2268 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 3: As crazy as that sounds. 2269 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 4: Listen, there is no more underrated figure. 2270 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,280 Speaker 3: I agree. I'm not saying I finished your sentence. I 2271 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 3: know what you're gonna say, and you're absolutely right. 2272 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:15,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead. 2273 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, it's Tomlin. 2274 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,120 Speaker 4: And it's not that people don't respect him, it's that 2275 01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:24,160 Speaker 4: they still don't respect him enough like he has the 2276 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:27,599 Speaker 4: fact that he continues to find ways to do this 2277 01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,320 Speaker 4: is unreal. The way he leads men, the way he 2278 01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:35,920 Speaker 4: carries them, like every like he just there's something different 2279 01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 4: about him. And you like the fact that we're talking 2280 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,439 Speaker 4: about this in this spot right here, because it's seven 2281 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,240 Speaker 4: and three versus seven and two. Baltimore Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's not 2282 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 4: supposed to be in this In this spot at the 2283 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,880 Speaker 4: beginning of the year, we're talking about Pittsburgh being seven 2284 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 4: and two and Baltimore only being a three point favorite. 2285 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,080 Speaker 4: With Derrick Henry and with Baltimore the way that they've 2286 01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 4: been playing, that's a testament to Tomlin. And yes it's 2287 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,680 Speaker 4: a testament to some of the players feel too. I 2288 01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:04,639 Speaker 4: get that, but Mike Tomlin does not get anywhere near 2289 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:08,080 Speaker 4: the love that he deserves because he's one of the 2290 01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,160 Speaker 4: greatest football coaches to ever live. He is because he's 2291 01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,000 Speaker 4: done this in so many different ways, and the one 2292 01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,240 Speaker 4: thing that you can always guarantee is that his teams 2293 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,800 Speaker 4: are going to show up and give their all. The 2294 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 4: only mistakes that have really ever been made outside of 2295 01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 4: some oc hires, was letting Ben Roethlisberger play a couple 2296 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 4: of years too long, but that wasn't necessarily up to him. 2297 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,840 Speaker 4: But as a football coach, I would want my son 2298 01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,000 Speaker 4: to play for Mike Tomlin. 2299 01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 2: He's incredible and the Steelers are and I think even 2300 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,599 Speaker 2: just this year, like the decision to go with Russell 2301 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,120 Speaker 2: Wilson when it would have been easy to stick with, 2302 01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 2: to stick with Justin fields because at the time they 2303 01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,879 Speaker 2: were winning Russell Wilson three and oh three touchdowns yesterday 2304 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:50,640 Speaker 2: our last week. Excuse me really quick, I'll just say this. 2305 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,040 Speaker 2: I actually do like the Steelers at home. Not an 2306 01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 2: anti Lamar thing. I know the Ravens have a couple 2307 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,120 Speaker 2: extra days. I just I'm buying the Steelers kool aid. 2308 01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,439 Speaker 2: And you know they take care of business against Washington 2309 01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,759 Speaker 2: last week three and oh. As I said, with Russell 2310 01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,599 Speaker 2: Wilson as a starter, I think they get to four 2311 01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 2: and oh and I think they increase the lead in 2312 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,240 Speaker 2: the division. As crazy as it sounds, as we now 2313 01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:13,880 Speaker 2: have passed the midway point of the NFL season. 2314 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,840 Speaker 4: Key to the game is going to be pickings and 2315 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,559 Speaker 4: the receivers because Baltimore's secondary is not very good. If 2316 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 4: Wilson's able to throw a couple of those deep shot 2317 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,200 Speaker 4: balls that he was famous for in Seattle that he 2318 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,080 Speaker 4: just seemingly never did when he was in Denver, if 2319 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,000 Speaker 4: he's able to drop a couple moonshots, they can win 2320 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 4: the game. I tend to think Baltimore will win, but 2321 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,920 Speaker 4: if Pittsburgh wins, it will be because of deep balls 2322 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,240 Speaker 4: and Baltimore's inability to stop them. 2323 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:40,400 Speaker 3: Baltimore. 2324 01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:44,760 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is a one o'clock Eastern times start Buffalo and 2325 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,519 Speaker 2: KC four to twenty five Eastern come back. We'll wrap 2326 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,320 Speaker 2: the show. Still a lot to get to. This is 2327 01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:52,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 2328 01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:56,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody. 2329 01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from 2330 01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,880 Speaker 2: the tier rack dot com studios. 2331 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,759 Speaker 3: We are taking you up till two am Eastern time. 2332 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:10,360 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show follows us. You know, 2333 01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:13,160 Speaker 2: Bernie's got all sorts of good stuff to talk about, 2334 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:16,800 Speaker 2: as far as a busy Saturday in college football and 2335 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,439 Speaker 2: a busy look ahead to the NFL on Sunday. J 2336 01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,280 Speaker 2: mart you know, we didn't have as much time to 2337 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,639 Speaker 2: talk NFL today, just you know, between the Jake Paul 2338 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:29,559 Speaker 2: fight college football. You know, obviously everything that's going on 2339 01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 2: anything else intrigue you in the week the week twelve, 2340 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,920 Speaker 2: a week eleven slate excuse me, outside of the two 2341 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:37,959 Speaker 2: games that we just talked. 2342 01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:42,680 Speaker 4: About, I mean it's there's some interesting matchups and some 2343 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,080 Speaker 4: individual things maybe to pay attention to. I mean I 2344 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:46,720 Speaker 4: got to see what the Bears are gonna do. 2345 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna be because. 2346 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,240 Speaker 4: I mean we didn't even We didn't even actually even 2347 01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,440 Speaker 4: get to that either. Shane Waldron is gone, but your 2348 01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,800 Speaker 4: biggest problems a head coach and the fact. 2349 01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,560 Speaker 5: That it was revealed a couple of days ago that there. 2350 01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,440 Speaker 4: Was consider given to benching Caleb Williams, Like what are 2351 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,680 Speaker 4: you doing as a franchise? What this is why you've 2352 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,000 Speaker 4: never had a quarterback? Like what are you doing? Caleb? 2353 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:13,120 Speaker 4: Whatever Caleb's issues are, it's not something where you bench 2354 01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,000 Speaker 4: the guy. It's where you work with him and you 2355 01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,560 Speaker 4: find somebody that's actually going to be in sync with 2356 01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 4: his system and whatever it is that you need to 2357 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,240 Speaker 4: do to develop him, you develop him. But I don't 2358 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,280 Speaker 4: get that at all, Like, you set yourself up so 2359 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,640 Speaker 4: that you could do this thing and then within half 2360 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,520 Speaker 4: a season when you have a lame duck, lame duck 2361 01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 4: coach that shouldn't have been back in the first place. 2362 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,080 Speaker 4: Somehow that's gonna be Caleb William's fault. I think Shane 2363 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,160 Speaker 4: Waldron became the perfect fall guy. 2364 01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,240 Speaker 5: For this, and maybe he wasn't the right. 2365 01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:43,120 Speaker 4: Guy, but the wrong guy is ebra Flus and he's 2366 01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:46,440 Speaker 4: still there, at least for right now. So I just 2367 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,640 Speaker 4: want to see, are we going to see more regression 2368 01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,600 Speaker 4: from Caleb Williams. Are they going to continue to let 2369 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,080 Speaker 4: this thing circle down the drain or are they going 2370 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,160 Speaker 4: to stop it? So I think that's that's one thing 2371 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,880 Speaker 4: that's definitely on my mind. And it's against Green Bay, 2372 01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,320 Speaker 4: so you know, good luck, and it's in front of 2373 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,320 Speaker 4: your home crowd who's probably ready to boo you right now. 2374 01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2375 01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 2: No, I mean, there's no there's no new ground to cover. 2376 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,120 Speaker 2: I would have loved to talk about it, but there 2377 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:10,880 Speaker 2: is no new ground to cover. I mean, I I 2378 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 2: just I think it's borderline embarrassing for the franchise that 2379 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, one that Eberflus is even back, and then 2380 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,160 Speaker 2: two you know, I'll say this, I was feeling it 2381 01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,200 Speaker 2: forgot leave. This week we had John Middlecoff Final and 2382 01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,280 Speaker 2: he brought up an interesting point. The fact they did 2383 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 2: it on like Tuesday is that you're already in game 2384 01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,640 Speaker 2: week prep and if if that's something that's gonna get done, uh, 2385 01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,720 Speaker 2: that's something that should be done on Sunday night or 2386 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 2: Monday morning. So the fact that it trickled into Tuesday, 2387 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:42,480 Speaker 2: it speaks to was it Eberflus's decision? Was it management's decision? 2388 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:46,160 Speaker 2: You know, and just the total dysfunction around that organization. 2389 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:49,800 Speaker 2: And I know Caleb Williams is kind of a polarizing guy, 2390 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,200 Speaker 2: but but I do feel bad for him because it's 2391 01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,760 Speaker 2: just such a chaotic situation there. I don't think he 2392 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:58,960 Speaker 2: gets any better real quick. First of all, I was 2393 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:05,280 Speaker 2: I gonna ask you, Oh, Thursday night, Eagles beat the Commanders. Obviously, 2394 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 2: great night for Sakuon and the role that he plays. 2395 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:09,280 Speaker 3: Philly. 2396 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,320 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you know, they're sitting at eight 2397 01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:16,080 Speaker 2: into a top the standings in that division, and I 2398 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,320 Speaker 2: think more than anything, they're on a six game win 2399 01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 2: streak j Mart since their last loss against the Bucks 2400 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:22,440 Speaker 2: all the way back in Week five. 2401 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I still don't know how much I trust it, 2402 01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,400 Speaker 4: even though I'm not surprised that the record or them 2403 01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:30,280 Speaker 4: being good like I had them being good this year. 2404 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 4: I Washington being good too, and I still think they are, 2405 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 4: but I don't know what to make of what I'm seeing. 2406 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,800 Speaker 4: I still feel like they're just they're hard to trust. 2407 01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,320 Speaker 4: There's too many things that I don't like. Barkway changes 2408 01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,879 Speaker 4: a lot for them, and they've gotten healthy a wide receiver. 2409 01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,040 Speaker 4: You know, you've got Brown back now and Finally you 2410 01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,160 Speaker 4: have kind of your full compliment of weapons. At least 2411 01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:57,320 Speaker 4: for the most part, that helps out. I still don't 2412 01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 4: trust Sirianni in crucial moments in big tom spots to 2413 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,480 Speaker 4: do the right thing or to do the smart thing 2414 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 4: and not make the decision that costs you a game 2415 01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,520 Speaker 4: or even cost you a touchdown in a close game 2416 01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:13,560 Speaker 4: or something like that. But I mean the Records, the record. 2417 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,880 Speaker 4: They're one of the only teams in the NFC right 2418 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,800 Speaker 4: now that really feels legit. There's a lot of teams 2419 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:22,440 Speaker 4: that seem on the verge of being complete paper champions 2420 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 4: at this point. 2421 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:25,920 Speaker 2: Should mention, by the way, shortly after the show, our 2422 01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,680 Speaker 2: podcast will be going up. If you missed any of 2423 01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:29,760 Speaker 2: today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just 2424 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,040 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and 2425 01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:35,720 Speaker 2: be sure to also follow rate interview the podcast. Again, 2426 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,120 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 2427 01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,520 Speaker 2: and you'll be sure to see this show. Post it 2428 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,720 Speaker 2: right after we get off air, Jason, we got less 2429 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,320 Speaker 2: than a minute left. Give me a one word answer. 2430 01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:47,720 Speaker 2: Bengals or Charger Sunday Night Football, who you like? 2431 01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm torn because I wanted to talk about the charge Bengals. 2432 01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you got about twenty seconds if you want to 2433 01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,760 Speaker 2: get it all in, and you know. 2434 01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,480 Speaker 4: It's just I think the Chargers deserve some respect. I 2435 01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,080 Speaker 4: think Herbert deserves respect, especially for the gutty way he 2436 01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,400 Speaker 4: played last week. I mean, that's the six and three team. 2437 01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,360 Speaker 4: Hardball's turned their fortunes around. They play a lot tougher 2438 01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:11,440 Speaker 4: than they did last year. 2439 01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,760 Speaker 2: Six and three, three straight wins. Going to Sunday Night 2440 01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:14,720 Speaker 2: Football CIN Cincinnati. 2441 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 3: We gotta get out of here. 2442 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 4: Well. 2443 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,560 Speaker 2: I thank the crew, Mary back on the boards, producer 2444 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:20,400 Speaker 2: Ian Steve Desaga from my partner Jason Martin, I mere Torres. 2445 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening. Make sure, as I just said, 2446 01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 2: to go ahead and download the podcast. Coming up next 2447 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. He's taking you 2448 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 2: up till two am Eastern. We appreciate you. Stay tuned 2449 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,200 Speaker 2: for Bernie. Download the podcast. Fox Sports t