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Speaker 1: After all, I have gone to bed, I leave the casino.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I go on to myself, think of things at juice.

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Speaker 1: You a regular night, I go to bed, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: But when you looked at me, smile, hands up, that's

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Speaker 1: when it all begin.

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Speaker 2: That's Ray. He surrendered to the FBI right then and there.

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Speaker 2: If you asked me when we were kids, where Ray

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Speaker 2: would end up, honestly, I would say right here, handcuffed

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Speaker 2: in his Gucci shorts and Gucci slides, flashing his newly

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Speaker 2: as long as I could remember, Ray was always good

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Speaker 2: at making a couple of pennies. The problem was didn't

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Speaker 2: matter how Rachel Panney was being arrested for fraud, conspiracy

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Speaker 2: to commit security fraud more specifically, and conspiracy to commit

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Speaker 2: wire fraud for what you might ask well. Ray's company

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Speaker 2: was called Centritech and he was one of the founders.

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Speaker 2: During the summer of twenty seventeen, center Tech became a

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Speaker 2: massive success, raising millions of dollars from investors. A list

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Speaker 2: celebrities like Floyd Mayweather and DJ Khaled touted the company

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Speaker 2: to the US. Center Tech went global. Two kids from

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Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you why.

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Speaker 1: You know wonder.

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Speaker 2: Will I ever be back with you? Ray and his

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Speaker 2: partners raised millions of dollars on false promises and partnerships

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Speaker 2: made these claims across interviews, social media, and email. When

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Speaker 2: centri Tech launched, not only had they caught the attention

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Speaker 2: of hundreds of investors, but also the SEC and FBI

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Speaker 2: law enforcement had rarely come across a crime like this before.

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Speaker 2: Centri Tech was something new, novel, unregulated, the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: deceive was high and the stakes were massive. By the

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Speaker 2: time the FEDS caught up with Ray and his partners,

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Speaker 2: the initial funds that were raised had turned into a

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Speaker 2: according to the pending class action lawsuit, we're talking billions

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Speaker 2: Johnny be Good and this is creating a con The

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Speaker 2: story of Bigcom Episode one, breaking.

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Speaker 3: Bed this SEC crack down on initial coin offerings to

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Speaker 3: backed and promoted by Floyd Mayweather. DJ coll ed.

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Speaker 2: The founders of that company.

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Speaker 4: They've been indicted.

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Speaker 2: Now for defrauding investors.

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Speaker 4: In the course of operating their company, Centric Tech, they

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Speaker 2: And as the FBI and SEC turned their eyes on Ray,

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Speaker 2: well he was fucked. But Ray wasn't the only one

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Speaker 2: All of centri Tech's investors would see their valuable investment

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Speaker 4: It just said shut down and you had no answers.

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Speaker 2: Ray and his partners were lying to stealing from and

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Speaker 2: fuck should I care? Sounds like something I've seen on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Guess what you probably have. And that shithead you're talking about, well,

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Speaker 2: he happens to be my best friend, and before you

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Speaker 2: but so what. We've all got that friend or relative.

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Speaker 2: To me, Raychelkannie was always just that quirky kid from

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Speaker 2: Atlantic Beach who always had my back. Growing up in

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Speaker 2: ab there was a lot of money around us. It's

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Speaker 2: Ray saw early on money was within his grasp.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying since a very young age that I

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Speaker 2: Ray never lacked confidence, that's for sure, But it was

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Speaker 2: more than that. Certain things are placed on a pedestal

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Speaker 2: in Atlantic Beach. If you walk into the town hall,

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Speaker 2: you'll see a sign poster of the Sopranos. I should

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Speaker 2: tell you everything you need to know about the town's values.

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to be a criminal when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid. I was fascinated with you Catch me if

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Speaker 1: you Ken, Wolf of Wall Street, these type of movies.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, That's exactly what Ray did. He became

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Speaker 2: a career criminal while friends were at grad school, working

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Speaker 2: plodding and scheming toward his next big payday. But to

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Speaker 2: and facing over a hundred years in prison, we need

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Speaker 2: to go back to where his story begins in Atlantic Beach,

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Speaker 2: New York. How you cramped back there, you guys? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know you're the one that got the stupid car.

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Speaker 5: Good thing on in my old car, Yeah on my car,

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Speaker 1: This is long Beach. Atlantic Beach is just like the

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Speaker 5: This is a beautiful neighborhood. Like this is like where

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Speaker 5: I'm where are you?

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Speaker 1: You live in rent?

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Speaker 5: No, Putnam is the street away from where I used

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Speaker 1: I'm terrible with like geography, geography, geography, geograph. He has

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Speaker 1: like what people know. It's what people come to serve

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Speaker 1: and party. And Landing Beach is just like all the

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Speaker 2: Atlantic Beach, or ab as we call it, carried a reputation,

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Speaker 2: and the kids that lived there did too. We weren't

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Speaker 2: had each other's backs. The town it thrived off hedonism.

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Speaker 2: We went to high school in Lawrence. If you've ever

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Speaker 2: seen Goodfellas, you've probably heard of it. By sophomore year,

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Speaker 2: Ray was always a little different. His outlook on life,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't the same as mine. Everything he learned he

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Speaker 1: For as long as I can remember, I was always

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Speaker 1: selling weed. My grandfather is kind of like a mafia criminal.

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Speaker 2: I always saw a raised pop was in the mafia,

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Speaker 2: just never heard him say it before. Rai's desire for

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Speaker 1: This is my house growing up, was over here with

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Speaker 2: It looks exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: My mom bought that house on foreclosure to put us

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Speaker 1: My mom worked all week in the hospital, like I

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Speaker 2: That nice town, the nice neighborhood raised mom carry Trapani

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Speaker 1: But they knew that they were loved, you know, and

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Speaker 1: That made me very me against the world. I think

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Speaker 2: so is his grandfather. William Hagner Bill, or as Ray

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Speaker 2: called him, Pop, was the family patriarch, the protector. In

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Speaker 2: many ways, he would shape who Rachel Panney would become.

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Speaker 1: So back in the day, my grandfather. He's a bigger guy,

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Speaker 1: they control all the flow in any construction job, because

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Speaker 1: you need an elevator to bring windows or anything to

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Speaker 1: the next floor. Right, So every job that went on

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Speaker 1: in New York City, you know, he obviously got a

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Speaker 1: piece of that. But he was just super connect the guy.

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Speaker 2: If there was one thing that Ray got from his grandfather,

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Speaker 2: it was loyalty. Pop always supported him. Ray was his blood.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather was always on my side no matter what.

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Speaker 1: He didn't know what the fuck I was doing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Ray has a business idea, Let's give it a try.

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Speaker 2: Pop was the one male influence in his life that

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Speaker 2: would encourage him support him. Pop instilled loyalty in Ray.

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Speaker 2: He always had Ray's back and that stuck with him. Hell,

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Speaker 2: Ray even has a tattoo it's his loyalty running up

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Speaker 2: the side of his torso. But that's the thing about Ray.

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Speaker 2: If you're in his inner circle, he's loyal to you

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Speaker 2: to the day he dies. But if he doesn't know you,

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Speaker 2: he'll be the first to fuck you over and leave

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Speaker 2: you with nothing on the side of the road. To

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